When we shared yesterday that all interested observers should be very wary of the information from media sources around Ukraine, there was a reason for that. Question everything. Take nothing at face value.
If you have never experienced the propaganda push surrounding war, the totality of the inbound bullsh*t can be destabilizing, overwhelming and unnerving. It’s one of the reasons why CTH doesn’t share immediate information. Everyone has an agenda.
Everything we are seeing in U.S. media surrounding U.S. interests in Ukraine is a massive propaganda operation with the headquarters in the U.S. State Department and U.S. intelligence community. The sense of sympathy you are feeling is part of an intentionally manipulative operation from within this DC matrix.
The images, pictures, videos, speeches, soundbites and the cinematography broadcast by U.S. corporate media are all purposefully intended to create a very specific outlook within the American people toward the issues in Ukraine. The leftist United Nations, and the leftist U.S State Dept, will work together on this just like they have done in the prior examples (Ukraine 1.0, Libya, Egypt, etc.).
It is very easy to become a victim of psychological warfare intended to manipulate our opinions.
The neocons, war promoting agents working on behalf of the UniParty and the collective globalist interests, are all united in their effort.
Unfortunately, almost everything being transmitted from corporate news into our psyche is part of a battle for your mind. The goal is to create a self-fulfilling prophecy.
This is why people who are familiar with these types of tactics often tap-out when the drumbeats get loudest.
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The White House, which means the total globalist effort, tipped their hand earlier last week when they defined “strategic power” and their outlook toward winning the battle for the mind. Everything is about writing a script, creating a narrative, building a “better story,” where the globalists are the heroes. In essence, the “strategic power” battle is for your mind…
…”Ultimately, the goal of our sanctions is to make this a strategic failure for Russia; and let’s define a little bit of what that means. Strategic success in the 21st century is not about a physical land grab of territory; that’s what Putin has done.
In this century, strategic power is increasingly measured and exercised by economic strength, by technological sophistication and your story – who you are, what your values are; can you attract ideas and talent and goodwill? And on each of those measures, this will be a failure for Russia.”
Everything in modern warfare is storytelling.
Question all of it.
The stories of the 13 guards on an island telling the Russian naval ship to fuck off… yeah, it was a lie (turns out they surrendered). The “Ghost of Kyiv” pilot, the lady with the sunflower seeds etc., now all recognized as lies and propaganda. And do not expect it to stop, because it won’t. Thus, the nature of warfare for your mind.
Yyyyyep. The post truth world. And it’s KEE-EV. Not Kiyiv or whatever BS “new pronunciation” they are using now. Sheesh
Yes, but you’re not one of the cool kids if you don’t say it the way they say it. /sarc
POK-e-stahn .
Always grated on my nerves when H pronounced it like that.
Yes me too. Lord he is such a d!€k.
Big swingin’ d!_K.
” i red 2 books…!”
Like when Braaaaaack introduced everyone to the newly discovered country of “PaahKeyStahn”?
Or corpse man
That is simply how they pronounce it in the 57th state!
C’mon man!
The 57th or the 61st?
…and Tal-ee-bon.
It is Kyiv (phonetically like Key-Ivas) it’s been that way among Ukrainian speakers forever. Kee-ev as you insist is the Russian pronunciation which Ukrainians loathe! Oh and it’s simply Ukraine, lose the “the”.
Sorry.. phonetically Key-iv … spellcheck changed what I wrote and I didn’t see it before I posted
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What are its pronouns?
It is NOT “Kyiv”. It’s Київ. Or Киев in Russian.
I speak English and the cyrillic all sounds like Kiev to me. So since last month the pundits are all going keev keev keev keev…
It’s been Kievan Rus’ and the Ukraine since the 12th century. Maybe we should stop using the “the” in front of “United States of America” too and be “offended”?
I read, write and speak Ukrainian (and a few other languages). There is a difference in pronunciation of the Ї in Ukrainian and и in Russian. Also, in transliterating, the Russian version predominated and was accepted. It’s just something that grates.
No it is the United States … but you wouldn’t say “ in United States» without the article. That would be grammatically incorrect and just sounds plain weird! Ukraine is just Ukraine (Україна) and does not require the article… besides when they hear the expression “the Ukraine”it reminds them of their time under Soviet domination. It may me a small thing, but aire significant.
Hope that helps and there is no need for snark. I was just correcting a common error. Someone very near and dear to me once said that “knowledge doesn’t take up all that much space and never bypass an opportunity to learn something new.” This has been my lifelong mantra. Cheers!
I appreciate the information on what is correct.
The Russian pronunciation is more like Kee-eff because in that language final voiced consonants become their unvoiced equivalents. German is the same way but Ukrainian is not.
That is correct. I was concentrating on the letters Ї and и and the difference in pronunciation
Sorry, The Ukraine, historically refrred to the “borderlands”. So The Ukraine it is.
You of course know better. I bow to your superior knowledge.
No it is simply Ukraine unless you simply want to be rude and condescending.
I think the truth always exists, but these days it’s like living in a hologram where everything around us is a fabrication, like a movie set. It feels like nothing is real, but Lord, we’re surely feeling something hitting us hard.
Sob stories and bullsh*t.
Still dont give a damn.
I care about the war at our southern border.
…and the Marxist puppet leader to our north.
Me too Leavemygunsalone.
The big shot media will send reporters way on over to eastern Europe to cover this Ukraine/Russian war but will not send any one down to our own border to see what is going on down there.
No one down there for some reason.
Not exotic enough?
Not newsworthy?
But off they go in a heart beat to Europe to breathlessly cover this story.
Gotta find the citizen journalist live streamers, they are the best at covering the news. Surely there is someone in Ukraine that can do it.
I remember the propaganda from Iraq and Afghanistan, it was disgusting.
Well, maybe I’m not as stupid as I was beginning to think I was. This is what I wrote early this morning as I was trying to process my own efforts at observing and understanding:
It’s easy to note the perspectives of one article, one columnist, one post….and the opposite perspective from another…..but when I try to think about how to measure them against one another, I can’t. I don’t see any simple right/wrong.
So many variables are involved and it’s like watching all the stuff tossed up in the air by a big tornado and saying “It’s a house!” or “No! It’s a chicken coop–look at all the feathers!” or “It must be a car dealership–I saw broken headlights.” When, in fact, all of these may be true–and thus none of them are exclusively true.
I think I’ll resume what has been my MO for some years: Don’t believe anything anyone says about anything. Wait until reality holds a press conference.
Wise
“I don’t think we’re in Kansas anymore, Toto …” 🤡
“I have a feeling . . . “
A very sensible approach. And one I’m adopting, though it hasn’t stopped me from having and trying to process my own thoughts. One thing I know. There is an evil working which is so confident that it no longer hides its face. Black in nature and repugnant. Willing to destroy all in its path. All we who are watching their unholy and ungodly attempts to make slaves of the whole world can only pray that their foul, rancid plans crumble to ashes. And pray for all in harm’s way.
The spirit of the Anti-Christ.
Exactly so.
Betsy, as the corporate media intentionally whips up hysteria manipulating all for pushing a political outcome
Glenn Greenwald spoke about this and Ukraine news coverage yesterday – a lone voice of sanity in the darkness- well worth the time to listen:
Neither black nor white.
In Eric Metaxas’ great biography, simply titled Bonhoeffer, chapter 23 is titled From Confession to Conspiracy. Metaxas draws a timeline and, using extensive quotes from Bonhoeffer’s writing, sets forth the sometimes painful business of learning that rigidity re what is so is not our friend in real life, perhaps particularly for practicing Christians who may easily tend toward it.
Some of Metaxas’ summary paragraphs regarding Bonhoeffer’s thought processes and convictions sort of make my brain hurt! But it is exactly what we have been living through, now increasingly so every day.
Just ordered it based on your recommendation and reading a short synopsis of the book. Posting that as part of the conversation is much appreciated.
You’re very welcome. I have had my copy for about four years and provided copies to my family. Lives well-lived (like Dietrich Bonhoeffer’s) are a great syllabus for thinking and learning. I’m working through my copy for the fourth time.
When you receive your copy, read one little section (before you start from the beginning)…the section beginning on p. 361 entitled Crossing the Line. It’s less than a page long, but will give you a thrill of understanding and insight, both into Bonhoeffer’s life and your own thoughts in these days.
That was a great book Sharon.
It seems to me that every one and their brother is writing a book now days and I get a suggestion from friends as to this “new” book written by and expert that I really must read.
The expert is usually a former politician in some ones administration.
Those I pass on.
Those guys are all writing books faster and faster and faster than the earth can revolve around the sun.
They all “really have something to add to our countries conversation about …..”.
Yeah, well I will pass on the latest addition to the Amazon list of former politician writing something that so many think I can not live without reading or “educating” my self using their great wisdom.
Sorry Treepers just a bit cranky to day, will stop venting.
So true. There is reality, hard facts (though even these days, facts seem up for debate). And then there is perception, interpretation, opinion, and spin. In recent years, it’s all become shmushed together as if one and the same thing. It’s increasingly difficult to figure out what’s going on because, in my view, both “sides” (right and left, for lack of a better way of describing it) are wedded to their narratives, with each side sure that theirs is correct, true, and right.
It’s exhausting.
Anyway, you post was spot on. Absolutely nailed it. Grateful to have slowed down when I saw it come up to take the time to read what you had to say…
“There is reality, hard facts (though even these days, facts seem up for debate). And then there is perception, interpretation, opinion, and spin.” …exactly the thing that Bonhoeffer struggled with for a long time, making a distinction between what the facts are and what is the truth..…
Kneejerk responses of any/all kinds are much easier than what life requires of us.
Very true Sharon.
And what Bonheoffer had to finally realize as Truth was ugly and unpleasant but he looked it straight in the eye and dealt with it.
And that is why the book was so interesting to me.
He dealt with it calmly and ………
It is a great book and tells one story of so many real hero’s of that horrible time.
So very many quiet hero’s.
So true. The human mind seems primed to split things into Option 1 or Option 2, as if it must be one or there other, not both, and/or not either, and/or not one or both plus some other things.
This is also a good description of the definition of wickedness – take a bit of truth, swirl it in a bit of lies – one still sees the truth but it is stained and corrupted with deception. Is it still truth? The left, under the spell of the Father of Lies, says “of course its truth” and mocks any challenge. But truth is absolute – if it is corrupted, it is wickedness and must be confronted and “un- corrupted” or cleansed. This is where principle and character make a stand and strength emerges…. Or hides.
The Bible has zero’d in on this subject and for 5000 years has been completely and flawlessly steadfast in defining, upholding and protecting truth. If anyone gets confused about the assaults on truth one need only consult the Word that has always been consistent.
There are some hard facts, Sharon, that are hard to ignore. First is the hard fact that Russia has launched a war of conquest. The second hard-fact is that Ukraine has not only decided to fight back but is doing a surprisingly good job of defending itself. Everything else is the movie version.
Here is a hard fact that predates your facts:
Putin has been telling everyone for the last 25 years to not put missles on his borders, i.e.- no NATO on Russia’s borders. This not an unreasonble request.
JFK didn’t like it when Kruschaev threatenrd missiles placement in Cuba.
Ukraine/US has had years to come to the table and negotiate a Ukraine that is neutral territory and to state they will not become NATO.
Ukraine/Blinken refused.
My question is this: how do we know the whole thing isn’t bloody Kabuki theater?
We don’t. And part of what’s involved in retaining sanity and personal stability is being willing to acknowledge what we don’t know.
Wise Mother you had Sharon.
Ignore all of them and use the time you save reading, watching these useless people to make you life more rewarding.
Create something, do something, make something live life instead of watching or reading what some one else has done or said or is doing.
Most of the news is not worth your valuable time here on earth.
Reality’s a Winner! 😉
Seems a lot of this propaganda is showing up here on these threads.
Realistically, this can’t be avoided.
The Fake News says the world is on fire because of Russia invading Ukraine and China Joe decides to go home to Delaware today. The leadership in this Country is so weak right now, that China and Russia feel like they can do anything they want.
If Antifa and BLM had a supposed valid reason to burn crap down and destroy lives, what makes the drunk cowboy and the pathetic panda any different.
The media is a dumpster fire!
Myself I question everything.
Well is it true that Biden* left for his Delaware beach home on Friday? Not that he is in charge of anything anyways, but you would think the ‘optics’ framers would have kept him in the WH, so they can keep releasing file photos of ‘The Situation Room!’
Well I guess I can believe the NYP. Says he left for Delaware on Friday.
Europe is on fire… His work for February is done. He will be receiving instructions for March.
Why not CountryClass, Obama set the middle east on fire.
They are still working on fixing that over there.
Now Eastern Europe and the crazy people running things will work their way around the world.
MSM claims he had his conference with the security peeps/council, from his DE home. I have a problem with that one.
Don’t legitimate POTUS’ (or “Poti”?) go to Camp David for the ‘real secure’ locations? Or may be the WH bunker–irregardless of the Memorial Service for a family member….
Something is wrong with that one!
So that’s what they call watching Netflix and cartoons in the basement.
He went home to his basement
Saw a photo for what that’s worth. Optics only matters for our side.
I’m sure there’ll be video of him soon, concentrating intently on a table map and moving tanks with a long stick, barking at aids and putting those Russian pony soldiers in their place.
FJB has to go fetch that fancy general’s jacket of his with all of the shiny medals and colorful ribbons. He prolly has a MacArthur style cap and pipe to go with it, along with a cool riding crop.
I’m glad you wrote this Sundance. I can’t find any concrete information at all. The sites out there who are reporting on this clearly have an agenda.
You even see it on CTH. There was a battle on one of your earlier threads between posters posting pro-Ukrainian information/misinformation and posters posting pro-Russian information/misinformation. Social media is even worse.
The irony is that in 2022, we have virtually no legit information on what is truly going on.
I would hope that there is a Ukrainian visitor to the Treehouse out there might be able to clear some of this up.
But alas, I know of none myself.
Isn’t MAB Ukrainian?
Yes I am.
Excellent!
I’m actually a hyphenated Ukrainian-American in this case although I dislike hyphenated anything! Although I am an American of Ukrainian heritage, at this moment, for obvious reasons, a piece of my heart is with Ukraine.
now on a lighter note, the trending Ukrainian joke: NATO is free to apply for Ukraine membership.
What little I have posted came directly from friends in Ukraine and was called a troll, so I left. Figure it out yourselves.
Sundance, I’ve been an avid reader and admirer for a number of years, but have noticed in the case of Ukraine a complete inflexibility and an unwillingness to give the people of Ukraine the benefit of the doubt. Just like we were not our government, they are not theirs! Zelensky may have backed the wrong horse for whatever reason, bit in my book that doesn’t mean that a person cannot change. I hope you will at some point give Zelensky and the Ukrainians who are fighting not to be swallowed up by anyone, a chance.
my regards to you …
I can only speak with authority for myself.
You have my consolation for what its worth, as I do have sympathy for Ukrainians being caught between Russia, the U.S., NATO, and the EU, etc. with all the geopolitics that come with that.
I wish the best for the people of Ukraine, the same as I would for all people everywhere. But, there are certain parties in power around the world who have other plans. To find the truth amidst the propaganda is a daunting task.
Thank you. Much appreciated.
I’m just guessing here that I’m a “few” years older than most who post here. Nothing is ever written in stone and an open mind is indispensable. Yes, to find the truth amid propaganda is a daunting task, but not impossible, so I take everything with a grain of salt and research. It’s a humbling exercise to acknowledge that my truth is not always the Truth, unlike many who are opining here. I have also learned not to paint everyone with the same brushstroke, there are myriad nuances! With that, I hope Ukraine prevails.
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Do you know what’s happening the next county over? We all think we have a picture of things beyond what we personally see, hear, touch, tast and smell. We don’t. We rely on what we are told are first-hand reports from those we deem to be credible. That is why the corrupt media (and Hollywood) are the greatest enemy of the people. We want to be able to rely on others’ reports, but as Sundance has shown, we cannot necessarily even rely on supposedly first-hand pictures and videos.
There is a significant number of people who do not know their neighbors names.
Or who are simply sloppy and don’t do their research.
I have finally figured out the cause of my queasy feeling about this whole campaign coverage.
Having family in Poland, I pay attention to a lot of stories including bits about what’s happening in there, then I go to polish websites, and all I find there is the same B.S., the same exact pictures that have already run on western media. Curiously, last Friday the Poles were told that 53% of Americans support Biden sending troops directly into Ukraine! Complete garbage propaganda, in a country that outwardly has been picking fights with the EU for years now, yet somehow ends up directly in line with what the globalists want and have been planning all along.
What I find particularly WEIRD is that there are is an absolute lack of DIRECT WAR FOOTAGE. Not even a picture, let alone a drone video, or a cell-phone upload. Anything to show people in action versus ‘dealing with the aftermath’ – those, there is a multitude of. There are long lines of ‘refugees’ at the Ukraine – Poland border, but not one of them posts anything about seeing the Russian troops move, seeing planes in the air, seeing WAR, as it were, not just what they saw on the news before running away. In this day and age, with cell and internet access so prevalent, there is nothing to prove that there is REAL FIGHTING going on. As a kid, I lived on archival footage from WWII, maybe that colors my perceptions some, but so far this war seems to feel very much like a TV media war.
Good point. Heck, look at the WWII combat footage on the Eastern Front by both the Germans and Soviets. It was far superior to what we are seeing.
Reporters were reporters in WWII, Korea, and Viet Nam. They’ve all transmographied into propagandists now.
Vietnam?
Do a quick check on Tet Offensive fact vs Cronkite lies about it. Desert Storm was the “red pill” which opened the eyes of the low info demographic on how dishonest the media is on reporting war news but it had been going on a long long time before then.
I’m speaking of reporters on the ground. I am not referring to the Cronkites of which there were many. The narrative can be/was twisted. But the war films? And the bodies?
Interestingly, to me at least, in the UK, people who deliver the news on television, like Cronkite, are called “newsreaders”. I always that title was infinitely more correct. Reporters were the ones who were on the ground and did the dirty work, and this has influenced my definition..and yes, I know Cronkite went to Vietnam. I still did not consider him a reporter in the tried and true sense.
Hence my comment from earlier today:
“Teacher!!! I have a question. I see all these posts and reports about how Ukrainian forces are demolishing Russia. That Putin is about to find himself in a “quagmire”. That the Russian are getting their a&&es kicked big time. Okay, so then why the need for the US or Germany or Poland to do anything? Sounds like the Ukrainians are taking care of their own problem, no?”
Ha! Well played CCV
wait a few weeks.
This is the fog of war right now-
Glenn Greenwald gives good advice for us here to see the forest from the trees:
I thank God for you, Sundance.
Those are the only “truths” in my life, right now.
funkers 530 website and apps are parroting the lies. guess we know who they work for.
I was waiting for this post. I am not disappointed.
Me too!!!!
Question everything and seek spiritual discernment. Then double check.
The only thing I trust these days is kjv of bible. Nothing from media no politicians. Just praying and knowing that The Good LORD is in control. Praying for good friend whose husband may be called up by the turnip
This has all the hype and misinformation of the early covid days. Not that it hasn’t continued but they are trying to step off the stage.
This is where I go.
https://t.me/s/beholdisraelchannel
Looks like a pro-Ukrainian site from Israel. Doesn’t appear balanced.
Looks like the pics are being provided by persons on the ground in Ukraine. The info he is flowing seems to be pretty up close to me.
He is a (reserve?) IDF officer who lives in Galilee near enough to the airbase to wake up when the jets take off at night. He tries to keep up with Russian activity in Syria. Likely hasn’t needed to worry too much about Ukraine.
For my part, it is rather heartening to see that the Ukranians are not behaving like surrender monkeys.
So what is the truth?
Our experience informs us that what the MSM is feeding us and what we hear from the ‘Biden administration” is not the truth. That perspective is opposed to the interests of U. S. citizens. Biden has had too much unhealthy interest in Ukraine and has benefited from ridiculous amounts of bribery paid through Hunter.
I rely on war correspondent Michael Yon’s insight and integrity but he is not covering this war.
Like Sundance, he warns you not to believe what you are seeing on the news network.
The Palis turned us on to staged collateral damage. It’s all for maximum influence.
It seems odd that the very media that has proven itself liars over and over about things we could fact check and verify ourselves are now quoted and linked as sources for ‘news’ we have zero ability to verify for ourselves.
Remember. “Truth has no agenda”. The truth WILL come out…patience.
You know the truth by believing the opposite of what Communist Media Inc. and Joe Biden want you to believe!
Therefore, listening intently to what they are saying. It’s quite simple.
Why should the US State Dept. not want to see Ukraine & Russia negotiate directly with each other as two sovereign nations?
I pray it is Russia clearing out the NWO Nazis (assorted NGO’s, WEF confreres, etc.) on behalf of Ukraine, including any Wuhan-lab types of projects . . .
The truth is that Ukraine wouldn’t have been invaded by Russia if they had retained the nuclear weapons that they possessed and then gave up to Russia based on a guarantee of territorial integrity by the President of the United States.
That is the truth.
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The truth is that Ukraine wouldn’t have been invaded by Russia if it had declared itself neutral instead of pushing for NATO, had clamped down on the terrorists along the Russian border, and had not allowed itself to be a corrupt puppet of dirty United States politicians and their cronies.
and that’s the truth!
I suppose that’s why Georgia was invaded too, eh?
So a sovereign nation can’t choose it’s own path and join NATO or the European Union?
You must be a Russian stooge. Terrorists along the border? Pfft!
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Why don’t you elaborate on why you think Georgia was invaded instead of name calling and spitting. (And kindly don’t quote WaPo or other CIA sources that have emerged only this week and apparently were of no interest a decade ago.)
By the way, the U.S. needs to get out of NATO. We are the bulk of the funding and it serves no advantage to us to have to expend blood and treasure to protect these want-to-join-NATO states.
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Georgia was invaded because the Russians are brutes. Ukraine was invaded and 1/3rd of the country was taken by Russia in 2014 because Russians are brutes.
All of the nations bordering Russian hate the Russians because Russians are brutes.
All the Russians have are weapons. They have no culture that other nations want to share with these brutes.
The US created NATO. Sure, dissolve NATO.
It did Canada no good to be part of the Afghanistan invasion and fight there for a whole decade spending it’s blood and treasure only to be on the losing side in the end. What good did it accomplish? Nothing that I can see.
While we’re at it, lets dump NORAD too.
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Oookay… your nuanced answer is that “Russians are brutes” “…brutes… brutes… brutes…” and “Russians have no culture”. No art, classical music, ballet, sports, architecture, science, technology. Not very convincing.
By the way, have you ever seen the subways in Moscow? Listened to any music by Tchaikovsky or Rachmaninoff? Hasn’t Russia has been the only country capable of delivering people to the International Space Station since 2011 when Obama decided NASA instead should focus on Muslim cultural diversity?
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” Ukraine wouldn’t have been invaded by Russia if it had declared itself neutral instead of pushing for NATO”
Why does Ukraine have to declare itself neutral? Ukraine is a sovereign nation. Ukraine has the right to follow it’s own lights, to decide and follow it’s own path.
Only a Russian stooge would think that Russia has to use it’s pimp hand and brutalize Ukraine for pursuing it’s own best interest.~outhouse counsel
/But Ukraine deserved to be raped by Russia for dressing like a winsome slut and wanting to freely date Europe instead of the brute that’s been abusing her all these decades./~outhouse counsel
Why does Ukraine think joining NATO and the EU is in it’s own best interest? Maybe having several million Ukrainians murdered by the Russians in the Holodamor make Ukraine, just like several other nations the Russia used as human shields during Russia’s “Soviet Union” guise.
How is the Ukraine invasion being viewed by Russians?
Feb 24, 2022
All my life, “Kiev”. I honestly did not know where they were referring to “Kyiv”. Got an old recipe from grandma “Chicken Kiev”. Good for gram, good for me!
Also, let’s not forget Mussorgski – Great Gate of Kiev.
Yes that too!
Splendid work!
Don’t worry. I still say Pekin!
I still day youranus
and BOMBAY.-..? i do…drives em nuts at 7-11.
Yes, it is KIEV. In Kiev and in Ukraine they don’t even spell it Kyiv. Why? Because they use Cyrillic writing.
They don’t even use our alphabet, so why change the spelling?
Same with Mosk. Why spell it mosque? No, we don’t speak French. Why the French spelling?
No, they don’t spell it mosk or even mosque in Arabic.
And… unrelated Muscovites don’t wanna duck anymore.
It’s always been Kyiv in Ukrainian and Kiev in Russian.
Thank you. That at least makes sense.
Well one thing is a fact Adam Kinzinger is a scumbag
As is every single politician!
Thank you, Sundance!
Has Vindman, Bolton, and Levin left for the front yet?
which Vindman?
Aren’t they leading from behind?
I really would love to see an epic plan to take down the MSM, they are the biggest problem. I resent how they have such glee and joy, and drama, as they intentionally lie to us.
I believed and would have bet money that job one of Trump and Theil was going to be to take them down. Media/Tech giants respectively. Opportunity lost.
Especially the recycled from wars past pics.
I saw one a few days ago. Supposed series of Russian planes flying in to attack Ukraine. They were all in formation and flying low and slow so it didn’t look right. Turns out it was footage of a 2020 airshow.
I thank all of you — and here I thought I was the only one tired of the media bull—-, Jesse Waters trying to act like neocon macho man, Brett Baier (gave him 10 secs.) pontificating, etc. I tuned out yesterday evening. Even people I think can think just send me back replies of what an evil man Putin is and start their muh Russia ravings. So what about Joe Demento, I reply, the bio labs, the no Nato agreement, our leadership vacuum and moronicity. But, I bark into the wind.
“Every War in the past 50 Years is a Result of Media Lies.” ~ Julian Assange
Wonder where Julian is these days. If he’s still alive.
wondered the same
I heard he had an unfortunate stroke in Lockup.
He did.
If he’s got the oft talked about kill switch (and all he has to tell them is that he does have one…how would they know if it’s true or not? Can they take the risk) my bet he’s alive. In the horrible Belmarsh prison, but alive.
Lies & Propaganda Started Nearly Every War in US History:
https://www.sgtreport.com/2022/02/as-war-drums-beat-for-ukraine-remember-lies-and-propaganda-started-nearly-every-war-in-us-history/
Correct! Prior to WWII, Communist Russia infiltrated the upper echelons of the US government to manipulate the US into fighting and defeating its enemies, Germany and Japan, and we did just that!
Simultaneously, Communist Russia infiltrated the upper echelons of the Japanese government to manipulate it into believing, contrary to what it had always believed, that the US (with virtually no military assets) was the real threat instead of Communist Russia. Consequently, it launched an idiotic attack against the US at Pearl Harbor, when the plan had always been (before communist infiltration) to attack Russia, its true and real enemy.
Nice job, FDR!
To top it off we have Bungles Biden a complete imbecile pretending to be President of the most powerful country in the world. The stooges in the MSM backing him up with false narratives. Hey what could go wrong?
The stormtroopers are a nice touch. LOL
LOL!!!!!!
Today, we are “blessed” with a vast group of people who have become conditioned to accept anything that they encounter on “social media.” This causes them to be considerably more naïve than they ever should be, and there are plenty of people out there right now who are fully prepared to exploit it.
THANK YOU SUNDANCE !!!
“This is why people who are familiar with these types of tactics often tap-out when the drumbeats get loudest.”
That was my immediate gut response, learned from watching your coverage of Russia Gate over the years; nothing is as it appears. I am glad to see tapping-out is your advice and the advice of others who have been through this before.
Over the years I have assembled a list of news sources and journalists I can trust and who put their reputations on the line for the veracity of what they report, like you, Glen Greenwald, Matt Taibbi, Aaron Maté, Jimmy Dore, etc. And they are pretty much my only source of news… and I find that when I only follow them, I often know way more about current events than those that consume the corporate news.
Glen Greenwald – War in the Ukraine
https://rumble.com/vvrd3t-the-war-in-ukraine.html
So, thanks again for being a voice of truth and sanity !!!
Ukraine fighting off an attacking foreign army is what I see independent of any spin from State. I doubt State would even understand such courage & determination.
Thank you. The people are determined and are fighting. We tried to convince a friend and his family to leave – he could have but the chose to stay for as long as it takes. Oh, this comes directly from Kyiv (not Kiev).
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Where are you getting the independent visuals from?
What’s your problem with him?
An honest liberal. He was calling bs on the Steele Dossier early on.
So he redpilled. It takes a good man to let truth change him.
“In this century, strategic power is increasingly measured and exercised by economic strength, by technological sophistication and your story.”
It is difficult to reconcile this formula with our defeat at the hands of the Taliban.
Poor enough leadership can negate any/all other advantages.
But poor leadership and a complete failure to understand “advantages” in wartime absolutely guarantee absolute failure.
Even to incite the relatively noble wars, the politicians felt the need to sell it to the people.
And as we’ve experienced with Co-Vid, intelligent people will buy stunning nonsense if the sales pitch is well-targeted.
After Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait, the build-up began for what became known as the Gulf War.
Bush 41 was clearly looking for the off-ramp, but Britain’s Thatcher inserted a backbone into George.
During the Congressional hearings drumming for war, a young Kuwaiti woman appeared, sobbing, and told a horrible tale about seeing Iraqi troops enter Kuwaiti hospitals, remove babies from incubators and leave them to die, in order to steal the hospital equipment.
It didn’t take long for the truth to emerge that the young Kuwaiti testifier was in fact the daughter of Kuwait’s Ambassador to Washington, and her story was fabricated. Her testimony didn’t make a lick of sense from the start (why would soldiers want incubators? To start a chicken farm after the war?), but once the ball of war was rolling, it all became moot.
Truth is the first casualty of war (I just made that up).
Who arranged that bit of widely spread theater?
Victoria Nuland
Bloodthirsty Neocon
Nothing more than a deflection to distract from the socialist, totalitarian and globalist policies the Democrats are attempting to foist on the US while doing everything in their power to destroy the Constitution and the rule of law.
Who wants to sponsor a one-way ticket for him? 👋
All wars are ultimately a battle for “hearts and minds”;
While this usually refers to the populace of the country where the war is taking place,..Iraq during gulf war 2, Afganistan people during US war,…it actually applies to the people of the invading country.
USSR pulled out of Afganistan, in part when Russian people no longer supported the war, same with U.S.
Ditto, Viet Nam.
Governments ALWAYS ‘Gin up’ support FOR a War, prior to engaging, and use propoganda for this purpose. Has ALWAYS been the case.
An ironic example of this; in the run up to, and during WW1, Propoganda that Germans were boiling babies to make soap, and similar acts of inhumainity and barbarism were promulgated by Western govts, to motivate support for the War.
AFTER the War, these stories were all debunked.
Hence, in WW2, when stories of the concentration camps began coming out, most news outlets refused to report them, most refused to believe them, cause “fool me once”.
They gin up support as high as possible, BEFORE engaging, because inevitably once casualties start occuring, support WILL begin to drop, and the longer the war goes on, the more it will drop.
Anybody remember
‘Syria Boy’
In the back of an ambulance?
HOW ABOUT… DEAD BABY MAN FROM GAZA…ROLLING AROUND TO VARIOUS CAMERA LOCATIONS WITH SAME DEAD KID ON DIFFERENT DAYS…PHEEEW
And while this all spirals out of control, I read the following, A tweet from David Burge at iowahawkblog…
“I think it’s worth noting that the most courageous leadership seen in this world in the last 40 years has been from a coal miner, A satirist, and a comedian: Lech Walesa, Vaclav Havel, and Volodomyr Zelenskyy.”
President Zelenskyy was extremely smart to not accept a ” ride” from the United States. Not only is he a Ukrainian patriot, but he is very wise
Lech Walesa, by the way, was an electrician.
Ah…thank you. Of course
he was. There was something about that description which bothered me, but I couldn’t put my finger on why. Quoted as tweeted.
One of our best, Ronald Reagan, was an actor…. Your profession/trade does not define you.
No it absolutely does not!!! A belief I’ve had all my life. Unfortunately Americans define a person by “what he does”… a more inaccurate judgement of someone’s capabilities doesn’t exist. To prove my point, take a look at ” doctors” today.
His helicopter would have been shot down.
My thoughts as well.
HOW TIMELY FOR BIDEN AND CO.
Can someone point me to the article, or news release from Ukraine, that the Snake Island soldiers surrendered?
I can only find this post on Redit and I don’t trust that source either:
I’d also like to see that. There are a 100 stories about them not surrendering. Can we get more info here so we don’t spread propaganda either?
I don’t think we are going to get a response here which leads me to believe it’s BS until I see otherwise.
I’ve seen both stories on social media. CNN (lol) claims they have 75 reporters on the ground, alas my tv doesn’t know that channel. (reminder to self to dust the tv tomorrow and give it a hug, it’s quite lonely)
In all honesty, what I’ve seen from those I trust online it does look like they surrendered.
This Admin. HATES Putin because he is anti-2sLGBT+/- mafia. He won’t surrender his culture to degenerates who want to poison our children’s minds with this sort of EVIL dribble …
https://tnc.news/2022/02/26/levy-toronto-elementary-students-given-gender-inclusivity-training/
SHE just confirmed it … by claiming conservatives “liked” Putin because he’s anti-gay. SHE obviously believes the opposite. SHE wants to poison children’s minds by telling little boys they can “be” girls …
One doesn’t have to support sexual deviancy to hate Vladimir Putin. Putin is thoroughly despicable.
You really really hate Putin. To the point that you seem to be deflecting blame from the juntas energy and military policies that got us into this geopolitical quagmire and onto Putin. 🤔
Just because we’re ruled by an evil junta doesn’t mean that Putin isn’t also evil and our enemy.
Priorities. It is possible to hate Putin from afar. The sexual deviants run our schools and most of the country and they are on the march. The threat from Western left is immediate and the cause of our current state of economic collapse. Their governance and policies are the open door for Putin to have acted in the first place.
We’re fighting on multiple fronts. We’re fighting the leftist enemy within, PLUS we’re fighting Putin, PLUS we’re fighting China.
Well said, my friend … very well said!!
It’s unbelievable how easily people lap up propaganda. In this case, they’ve already been primed to believe anything bad about Putin the Evil and Big Bad Russia, so the winds of confirmation bias are at the propagandists’ backs.
The truth is almost certainly that Ukraine is being steamrolled and its low morale military is crumbling.
People need to understand that this war is happening because of relentless provocation from the West – mostly the US. In other words, hard as it is for people to consider, we’re the bad guys in this story. We (I mean, The Swamp) are the ones who provoked and then refused to negotiate. Preventing this war would have been as simple as agreeing to a neutralized Ukraine and taking its membership in NATO off the table.
If Putin wanted to play World Conqueror, he could have started doing that long ago. He’s no Hitler, he’s no Stalin. He might be an autocrat and have some thuggish tendencies, but Russia today is a far freer country than it was under the USSR, and it’s certainly a freer and more open country than China, and we don’t hear neocons and neoliberals sabre rattling and doing moral grandstanding over China.
So frustrating… All we’re doing with our antagonism toward Russia is strengthening the hand of China, our real adversary. I’ll bet the CCP can’t believe their good fortune to have such stupid, short-sighted enemies.
Putin is a vicious murderer. There’s no question about that at all. He actually employed third generation chemical weapons to murder his opponents on UK territory, thoroughly contaminating Salisbury in the process. WTF? Putin actually slimes a NATO member with chemical weapons and no one remembers or cares.
I care about as much as people in the 30’s cared that Stalin had someone drive an ice pick into the brain of Trotsky in Mexico.
Whacking one Bolshevik in a third world country with a hammer is a far cry from DEPLOYING CHEMICAL WEAPONS with widespread collateral damage within the territory of a NATO member.
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And our government never kills people. Like uh, Biden’s need for propaganda in Afghanistan, wiping out an innocent family. Or forcing citizens to take a shot that has killed thousands.
Are you insane? Are justifying Putin’s use of CHEMICAL WEAPONS against a NATO member?? Russia should have been disconnected from the international banking system for that alone.
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So it would have been okay if he had used bullets or a drone?
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By all accounts, Skripal was a double agent. Russian policy is to dispatch double agents. Do you even know that Putin was directly involved, or do you just assume he was? Anyway, it doesn’t matter. If incidents like this make Putin a vicious murderer, what does that make own Presidents, who have grown fond of assassinating people, including our own citizens, with drone strikes? Recall that recently, Biden just ordered an assassination in Afghanistan that wiped out an entire family. Is that not vicious murder?
Like I said, Putin might be an autocrat and have some thuggish tendencies, but he’s not a Hitler or a Stalin. Our media here in the West have created a cartoon-style villain out of him, and the big beneficiary of that is China.
Are you a moron? To deploy CHEMICAL WEAPONS within a NATO country would have required Putin’s PERSONAL authorization. For that outrage alone, Russia should have been disconnected from the international banking system. Also, there is not a single incident of a U.S. citizen having been assassinated by the U.S. Government, at least not that I can point to in the past 50 years. Obama ordered a drone strike against some Al Qaida dirtbag terrorist who was deliberately mischaracterized as a U.S. citizen, but he was NOT. Even if he were, he was actively waging war against the USA as part of a foreign enemy force and therefore a valid military target, whatever his citizenship.
Listen to you: OMG, CHEMICAL weapons! In a NATO country! OMFG!!
Hey, do you know that CHEMICAL WEAPONS aren’t as deadly as conventional weapons like guns and bombs? And why is taking out (or trying to: Skripal isn’t dead) a double agent in a NATO country (OMFG!) worse than assassinating US citizens accused of being terrorists with drone strikes in middle eastern countries? Is it that it’s ok to blow people up, but only if it’s in some backward country?
You’re looking at this using your amygdala, the part of your brain that instructs you to fling poop at your perceived enemies, not your cerebral cortex.
So you personally conducted an exhaustive investigation in that matter and that was your well reasoned & fully documented conclusion?
Or, did you believe everything you saw, were told, or read?
Just asking for a friend, I am.
Have you thought that the underdogs are grasping at what gives them hope and the will to go on fighting?
Bidens people invaded Ukraine. The way it is being conducted is simply to hide their involvement. If there were a real administration to hold the complicit main stream media accountable for their lies, the media manipulation would not really be possible. All made possible due to election fraud. How to end the madness? Fix the fraud or bust.
Glad I’m not watching any of the bullsh$t whatsoever
The old Ukrainian man ‘run over by a Russian tank’ in his car – turns out it was as Ukrainian tank….
Have strongly suspected the gaslighting for several days now
Thanks, Sundance for the well written confirmation
Will disseminate to those looking for the truth
October 20, 2011:
The assassination of Muammar Ghaddafi
Sorry, I dismiss everything that dirtbag Kinzinger says or posts.
Can’t ever believe 1 word from the man that pridefully helped McStain, Grahamnesty, McMuffin, Shillary & Obumbler arm ISIS a.k.a. “Syrian moderate rebels” running arms through Benghazi.
I hope that dirtbag & all of his compadres pay both in this life & the next.
It’s the same thing EU USA did in 2014 when they overthrew the legitimately elected Ukrainian government which was friendly with Russia federation
One of Obama’s State Department officials who engineered the coup married one of the Ukrainian leaders.
I support Russia they are a Christian country an nation state who realize that they’re fighting a worldwide corporatism that is just as undemocratic and dangerous as communism they suffered under .
Russia is a country led by a vicious, mass murdering, atheist DICTATOR. Whatever the merits of the Russian people, they are under the control of an evil government.
So it’s like the US, Canada, NZ and Australia currently?
Just because we have our tyrants is no reason to defend those among our enemies.
This all begs the question. What is it that you want? Do you want US boots on the ground? Do you want active US military intervention? We all recognize Putin is as authoritarian as Western leftists. If you accept that Epstein (and a lot of others) DID kill himself, then we could say he is worse. As far as evil, the COVID vaxx and the openly stated desire on the part of the left to kill 95% of the human race is far worse than anything Putin has supported.
Putin is a vicious, amoral tyrant and committed enemy of the USA. We have ignored his creeping aggressiveness for 20 years. Regardless of how awful our own political leadership currently is, Putin is our sworn ENEMY and we must take steps to blunt his aggression and eventually destroy his regime. Don’t make the same mistake as the leftists from the 1930’s on, who supported USSR, from Lenin, through Stalin, right up to the fall of Gorbachev. Putin is the enemy of ALL Americans.
Whether or not Putin is a believer in his heart, he is a great defender of the Russian Orthodox faith. He does not espouse atheism.
He’s been an atheist all his life and unrepentant purveyor of evil. His place in Hell is reserved, a few spots away from Hitler and Stalin.
Whatever else is true about Putin, he is not an atheist
YAWN…………………….
Democratically elected? Like ours here?
Sundance is a national treasure!
We shouldn’t forget that many of us were speculating that this was another “wag the dog” event big time.
The Bidenistas are getting crushed in the polls because even their Commie Dem supporters are feeling the pinch in their pocketbooks.
Plus everyone is sick of the Chinese bat flu BS.
Plus Canada.
Our President Trump will be speaking at CPAC this evening. I hope it will be another tour de force performance.
My local “news” has been pushing starting yesterday that the rising gas & food prices, inflation, supply chain shortages, and chip shortages, are all because of the Russian “Invasion” of Ukraine. LOL. How stupid are there Democrat lemmings?
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