This issue has always been at the heart of the internal data that was never turned over for review. For two years, people have wanted to know the distinction and general health position of the people who were categorized as dying from COVID. What was their previous health status?
For reasons that can only be reconciled by admitting it was purposeful to their objectives, the CDC never released any information showing the background health status of those who were categorized as dying from COVID. However, recently the CDC said they were going to assemble those various subsets of key data for the public.
On January 7th, only being discussed today, CDC Director Rochelle Walensky made the admission, on a CBS morning broadcast, that 75% of those who are classified as dying from COVID had at least four underlying pre-conditions: “Over 75 percent had at least four comorbidities, so really these are people who were unwell to begin with.”… WATCH:
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Meanwhile, this same institution is pushing another set of booster jabs upon healthy people with no preconditions. Madness!
Obviously, all of these recent admissions are because the politics of COVID has become a liability to the same people who were exploiting it. The reality of COVID is now harder to hide… the narrative must adapt accordingly.
Who is ever going to believe ANYTHING the FDA, CDC or NIH says going forward?
This group IMO has done more damage by destroying the public trust that my guess is 70% of the world population going forward will NEVER take another vaccine of any type that is recommended by these groups going forward.
None of the survivors.
I would also add the AMA and the WHO, along with the ACLU and every other Civil Rights group that has thrown us all to the wolves the last 2 years!!
And don’t forget the healthcare and teachers unions. They did NOTHING to help preserve the rights of the teachers, nurses, CNA’s and all ancillary staff at schools and hospitals across the country.
Nail on the head – and these two are the very face of evil because they KNEW from day one.
Nothing against the State.
The test, the ultimate test will be obeying what is obviously not true.
We have entered into the world of neo-feudalism.
The parable of the emperor’s new clothes is profound. Only a child would dare to disagree with the ruler.
The FDA like the FBI and DOJ are just departments of the Democrat Party!
Yup. All part of that Big Club that George Carlin correctly told us we aren’t in.
They are all lying.
I really havent believed much of anything they have said going backwards, long before COVID.
Having worked in government has made me a hardened skeptic on government.
The FDA and CDC like the FBI are departments of the Democrat Party!
All The Fake COVID News That Is Unfit To Read
January 10, 2022
https://rumble.com/vsb406-all-the-fake-news-that-is-unfit-to-read.html
Guys, there won’t be any Nuremberg trials. The narrative will simply shift, and like all experiments done on US citizenry in the past, NO ONE will be held liable. The Geat Reset will commence no matter what. If God is our hope, then that’s how they view their schemes. They cannot allow it to be compromised.
The only way they stop
Is from us and nobody else.
Speaking of stop, will you please help us STOP the communist governor Inslee of WA state. The state board of health votes on Wednesday whether to allow him to pick up the non vaxed and put them in covid quarantine camps for 10 days which could be extended to 30 days. It gives law enforcement the right to force residents to go against their will. This is obviously not acceptable.
Even if you don’t live in WA state, please call. They need to know the whole country is not going to stand for this kind of totalitarian control over the citizenry.
The number for the WA state legislative hotline is 800 562 6000.
Thank you for your help, Treepers. You could be next in line.
I watched Jaydolph Islee’s COVID web press conference last week. Every single question from the (lapdog) media was submitted to the State prior to the call (one Seattle Times “urinalist” had tech difficulties so a State employee asked his questions to the Governor). And the POS Inslee brought up “criminalizing” election “lies”.
But that wasn’t the interesting part. The interesting part was just how meek and nervous Jaydolph was in a completely controlled environment. He knows he is skating on the edge of a civil insurrection, yet he plows forward (having committed crimes against humanity, I guess he can’t “stop now”). I think he also knows that he did not win the election, and is waiting for that shoe to drop.
what civil insurrection?
no one will do anything other than perhaps, as below, run away.
we are not ready to confront evil.
If this passes, Idaho is bracing for a massive in-flow of WA residents……
close the border and make them solve their own problems.
It had best do that. Too many blue state deserters will support the same destructive policies and actions they caused wherever they relocate.
lol we went house researching in Lewiston a year ago but decided to hold off because I work for a really great trucking company – no chance of injection mandate, so am going to try and hold out in this hell hole metro area of Portland
That fairy puffer Inslee would need to imprison about 70% of NE Washington. Out here, we can see people coming from a long ways off. You know good neighbors when they meet to discuss fields of fire
Per your request I tried to convey my disgust and outrage I was told that these massages only go to local legislative reps, since I was and am not a resident of WA I asked then that my message be conveyed to the insane communist Governor who apparently is staying up with current events that the whole COVID 19 narrative is crumbling. The operator then asked for my name address etc. I happily gave it and again requested my outrage be conveyed to Inslee.
I will call tomorrow !!
I understood that comments were closed. Please post numbers/links if available. I will call.
Thank you
Indimex, not sure what links you want. To email just to make sure the legislature hears from you go to [email protected]. On leg.wa.gov there’s a place to email a WA residents own representative or senator. Hope this helps.
WA state patriots should make sure the TV stations interview them and then say:
“I’ll never comply. They’re playing with fire and someone’s gonna get burned bad. Because when they come for me they ain’t all goin’ home. There’s gonna be widows and orphans and funerals.”
The people need to fight fire with fire. They need to let the tyrants know this is life and death and the people mean to be among the living, not the dead. No matter what it takes. Because right now, the tyrants ain’t afraid of anyone. The people need to make the tyrants fear them. Not the other way around.
Time is short.
correct.
tweets dont count.
There doesn’t need to be. Give these people the same choice they are forcing upon us, your job or your family. Only 1 of them survives. Choose wisely.
i’m convinced it is to late for any justice, or any organizing. if your not ready now probably to late. i’m not convinced more and more are waking up either. to many entrained sycophant egomaniacal virtue signalling hedonists. they do not know how to be future oriented thinkers. so they are burdens. take care
Concur, likely too late for justice within the vacuum of justice itself as COTUS lays out. There are many paths to justice though and all are a choice.
I can envision persistent, peaceful paths to justice over many generations, slowly reclaiming the country from the Communists. It won’t happen quickly or easily though, in my opinion, just like they didn’t infiltrate quickly or easily, rather methodically over many decades.
The alternative is war and this site isn’t about war, rather peace and faith. There are ways. I won’t likely live to see them but I wish those who do godspeed.
several reasons people will wake up. the truth is getting too obvious. it is easier to say you were fooled because you were lied to, threatened, and, the wild card, might be able to collect some damages from the many, many perps only a very few of whom have even a narrow immunity.
most of the companies that fired people did it without being forced to by law. the refusal to allow people to try ivermectin, hcq, goes against written fda policy.
The governors who outlawed HCQ in their states were way off base; once the FDA approves a drug the doctors are free to prescribe it as they see fit. Governors have no say.
Yes, correct, the only way such trials are held is when substantial quantities of the enemy are killed sufficient to defeat their will to live and fight, then the leaders are brought to trial and executed or imprisoned if they haven’t already been killed or committed suicide.
There’s no pleasant sunshine and rainbows way of getting to Nuremberg, it’s suffering and death, as is usual throughout human history. We’re still the same organisms, nothing new or remarkable.
Who said, “nothing succeeds except through prodigious waste.”
I guess that’s why the Nuremburg trials happened AFTER Germany’s defeat.
perhaps. but a great deal of damage has been done to the citizenry, and of the damagers only the big pharma have a narrow immunity for manufacturing the vaxes. no one has immunity for the lockdowns; lost jobs; lack of early treatment with ivermectin, hcq, etc.; exaggeration and fraud regarding the dangers of the disease, hence need for the vax; etc.
trial lawyers may smell blood in the water, especially as the political winds shift.
I like how they can’t even muster up a pie chart of their 4 co-morbidity january surprise.
let them eat cake and wait.
Sharyl Atkisson just posted this:
IN Israel hospital outbreak of COVID:
14 FULLY vaxxed patients became SEVERLY ill OR DIED;
the 2 UNVAXXED patients DEVELOPED MILD DISEASE…
HERE ARE THE TRUE, ACCURATE FACTS…..
It is unraveling….Patriots will be taking to the streets when they fully learned how DUPED they were into taking 1, 2, 3 vaxxes…
Vaxx rate was 96% among all exposed. 151 healthcare workers and 97 patients. 14 vaxxed either severely sick or died and 2 unvaxxed developed mild symptoms.
SIMILAR SITUATION described in the UK….
The LIES are exposed and unraveling..and PROOF has been there for 18 mos….from many MD’s that DARED go against Fauci, Birx, CDC, NIH….they were called quacks and kooks for TREATING their patients WITH therapies, drugs….
Patriots will be taking to the streets when they fully learned how DUPED they were into taking 1, 2, 3 vaxxes…
Yesterday was not soon enough.
The group that was duped consists mainly of people sympathetic to their captors.
and if that oneamerica life insurance ceo is close to right about a forty percent increase in death rates among working age employees covered by group life insurance, most not covid on the death certificate, there will be major repercussions, if only when they raise the premium on the vaxed and the number of democrats starts to slide through early death.
Agree, however ‘Patriots usually are people that are working at jobs rather than in the streets. Unfortunately, in our society , it usually the jobless or welfare encouraged that ‘take to the streets’ behind the ‘community organizers’.
indeed. there is a lesson therein, however, if we’d like to restore the republic.
imagine how quickly this fascism would have folded had there been REAL, SUSTAINED pushback.
we push back by surviving the intended food shortage, surviving the injection forcing… and maintain not submitting to government control of everything.
the time to fight will be when we win a posiiton that can fight.
a state legilator branch – declares to fight. a sheriff declares to fight. a governor declares to fight.
thats the safest most likely path.
gurilla warfare is once venuzuela occurs.
if I had a dollar for every time I read that in another vapid tweet, I’d be in their club and wouldn’t need to take to the streets.
I read somewhere ( I may have saved it) that in Israels they were debating if they would roll out 4th doses or just give up due to concern of too many jabs causing more damage than good. Then they decided to boost the poor high risk people.
Really tragic, at this point it sounds like they decided the high risk people are better lab rats than the rest.
Who’d have ever thought that Israelis would end up running their own death camps. I guess the global elites learned a lot from WW2.
What is sad: there is an argument that had the Jewish people a Jewish state to stand up for them, the Holocaust may still have happened, but on a much smaller scale.
Yet today, even with the existence of the world’s only Jewish state, Israeli leaders are not only not protecting the Jewish people, but actively using Third Reich policies against the Jews (sans ovens, gas chambers, railroad cars, concentration camps). In their ancient homeland, no less!
Rachel continues to weep for her children…..
should have carved any israel out of germany. would have been far safer for all concerned. no 9-11 either.
From the outset, I have wondered if this is how their numbers get down to that 144,000 prophecy…..
glad it wasn’t the palestinians.
But we aren’t quite to the full repudiation stage yet, I think there will need to be another 6 months at least of climate change getting blamed for sudden death before the Great Incarceration (?) Inquisition (?) Tar and Feathering (?) kicks off
Everyone needs to pitch in on the Overton Window movement
Do you have a link?
Link, please.
Sure…this confirms the lies that we have known the CDC has been pushing for two years.
When is the media going to be called out for their part in the conspiracy? Pushing the fraud to mass psychosis levels?
The fake news needs to be held accountable.
Yesterday morning. Local NBC affiliate…at 7 am..The first 12 minutes were one segment/story after another ON COVID, vaxxes, death,…NOTHING else was reported on and then on to weather…
Yes! None of this could happen without an evil media, including social media!
especially social media. the broadcasters have a bit more competition.
Just like the Russian collusion. The media was outright lying and we were all exhausted from all of their news, the Mueller investigation and mistreatment of people like Flynn. Then one day the Mueller investigation ended and poof everything was gone.
the difference is russiagate didn’t truly affect people in their private lives. the covid madness is wildly more drastic and intimate. grandma’s dead in ny, murdered by cuomo. dad took the vax and had a heart attack. brother then refused to take one and has been dishonorably discharged from the marines. sister ditto, fired as a nurse. and little timmy in fourth grade has pericarditis. mom got covid last year and we mortgaged the house and got a lawyer to get a court order for ivermectin. she just pulled through but she’s weaker.
see what i mean? obviously not one family but every one of them happened to someone, way more than once.
My wife contracted COVID for the second time last week. Felt like crap, but better now. She had at least one comorbidity, she was fully vaxxed.
How do you know she contracted covid? Your doctor? How does he know? Answer- the RT-PCR test (or similar test)
The RT-PCR test used by your doctor to tell you your wife had covid is reading the test result from a fraudulent test i.e., the RT-PCR test.
Your wife did not contract covid.
That would be according to Dr. Reiner Fuellmich and a bunch of other respected individuals cited on this website who have shown the RT-PCR test is a fraud.
^^ This. It’s biology 101 that (with a functioning immune system) you don’t get sick from the same virus twice. The point being the current “scariants” of COVID are literally cold & flu viruses.
What is the difference between, the original bioweapon, the delta “variant” and the moronic “variant”?
Since it is Vitamin D deficiency season in a lot of places how does one know one does not simply have a cold or influenza? Does natural immunity count for anything these days?
Well, for starters, from the perspective of Fauci and Friends, there’s no money in natural immunity…
That’s why I take Vitamin c, D and Zinc, along wtih elerberry and echinacea.
“What is the difference between, the original bioweapon, the delta “variant” and the moronic “variant”?”
This is an excellent question.
Did you know there are millions of cov2 variants? Each variant has its own formula.
The three you have listed have been extracted from the millions of formulas of variants and promoted to world renown prominence by the World Health Organization (WHO).
That’s right, the WHO decides which variant, out of all those millions, has a formula which is a danger to you.
And when the WHO says a particular variant formula is a danger to you, the CDC and big pharma spring into action and, based on the formula, produce the vaccine to be jammed in your arm so you don’t end up in a hospital.
What’s the actual difference between the three you mention?
The formula for the “original” cov2, the one that started the cov2 ball rolling, is known. and it is located here: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/nuccore/1798174254
The formulas for the other two you will never know or see. That’s because there is lots money involved. In other words, pharma has to pay the creators of the formula (which the WHO has elevated to prominence) in order to see and use their now patented formula.
Does that clear it up for you a little bit?
Part of the million variants
How does catching Covid a 2nd time align with having natural immunity if you have caught it?
I’m guessing the difference is being vaxed. The only conclusion is that you lose natural immunity from Covid if you’be been vaxed.
If there are multiple variants it’s possible to get it more than once. I had an activity rescheduled because a young woman who is very careful about her health and who has no co-morbidities other than the jab and a booster, has the sniffles.
My 71 year old sister is disabled and has been in a nursing home for almost 10 years. She is very immunocompromised due to losing her pituitary gland to a tumor when she was in her 20s. Been on cortisone for most of her life . Has congestive heart failure.
She just had her 2nd Covid diagnosis and was put in quarantine. But now she’s out and back in her room. She is not in good health and only God knows when she will go home. But covid didn’t get her the first or second times it tried. Personally, l think she just had a bad cold.
She refused the vaccine and unless they illegally gave it to her, she is unvaxxed.
Dr McCullough says you can’t get it twice. Maybe it was the flu, bad cold. PCR tests tell you nothing.
The Joevid-2020/21/22 narrative is disintegrating and they know it. So, 2 years later…”See. We told the truth. We’re still the good guys!”..after hiding the truth for 2 years to “Move Forward! We’re in the Capitol! We got in!”
Communists! (spit)
At work there is this guy who was double vaxxed and boosted
Brag on how safe those 3 shots are and how protected he was
He then went on to brag this is technology and science
The rest of us do not understand and that it was totally safe
And effective
And he was fully protected and he didnt stop there
It was like he believed it all and he was cocky
most who get it dont say much that I know
After a while I started asking him questions
And it ended with me telling him he was a ignorant guinea pig
with no real facts and he just laughed me off.
Well after the guy left I called him vaccine Bob
Moderna’s best salesman. (his name is Bob)
Now the name stuck and everyone at work
Calls this guy vaccine Bob and they laugh at him
It’s a running joke now And it took off.
It’s too easy to make fun of them
That guy will be called that at work forever
From the stupid shit he spewed.
You have to make them eat it
Vaccine Bob!!! Jabbin’ Johnny!!!
Booster Bob!!!
Make fun of these idiots
mock the powers that have been. let’s go brandon needs some brothers and sisters.
This woman is a liar. Those eyes that show no emotion; that is a practiced art. George Bush was very good at that…the dead eyes, everyone thought he was a moron..no he was a very good liar.
and the rest proobably died from the “approved” Remdesivir /ventilator treatment. Great hisptory for the drug. https://www.clinicalmicrobiologyandinfection.com/article/S1198-743X(21)00094-X/fulltext
That drugs history was already horrific with ebola, worst of the entire group tested, more people died from it then all the rest. Yet the only approved / paid for treatment in hospitals. Here is the drugs.com side effects of Remdesivir – notice anything in common with COVID symptoms.
Some side effects may occur during or after the injection. Tell your caregiver right away if you have:
These people are total slime. Really disappointed most in medical professionals. If your boss told you have be dishonest to keep your job and btw you knew people will die directly because of it – would you? I know they are already preconditioned to accept side effects from big pharma garbage but this is really an all time low to me. How few resisted is truly sad. They are co conspirators period.
Pure Bloods! Do not take as a mate anyone that has taken the demon incubation vaccine- its an afront to God. And your offspring if it survives, will look like a DNA stirred soup of AOC, Talib,Omar,Biden and old Nancy. In other words ….ugly.
Wait for the other shoe to drop and that is the average age of those who supposedly died from/with covid. I’ll bet is close to 80, if not over 80.
75% died with 4 co-morbidities and the average age of death was, my guess, 80-82.
Right from the beginning, the median age of death from covid has been higher than the life expectancy. This was reported in many places early on.
What is the percentage for 1, 2 or 3 Comorbidities? What else are they lying to us about.
All these conspiracies have been proven correct.
Tribunals.
For one thing, Fauxchi knew the lab origin of the virus way back in Jan. 2020.
He probably knew the origin of the virus back in 2018.
The Fraudxi gotta be punished- his NIAID funded the Wuhan lab research that made the bio weapon Covid. We know that
I think only 6% died who had no other co-morbidities, so the sum total for 1, 2, and 3 co-morbidities would be 19%.
They also knew treatment options.
Like any conservative I was annoyed by the total lack of common sense, the aggravating msm bullshit, the overhyped/mostly faked deaths amongst “healthy young people,” the TikTok dancing nurses, and the obvious ploy to take therapeutics away from sufferers to push the experimental vaccines and make $$$$$ hand over fist.
I got angry after the purposeful nursing home deaths, the ventilators, and the Remdesiver.
I got murdery when they went after children.
Support the truth, even when it spills out by accident, or when it is being used by blank-eyed mouthpieces to prop up an unpopular administration. TRUTH IS OUR WEAPON, NOT THEIRS.
They are also still peddling the lie that 97% of people in hospitals are unvaxxed. That is a blatant lie that very few are challenging.
want to know the next projected turn of events? just tune in to the godfathers doctor.
he first predicted the year plus lockdown. (when the time was right)
geez its almost like he knew about the fraud!
nawww!
Ezekiel Emanuel on coronavirus: Americans need to ‘stop panicking’ (cnbc.com)
Ezekiel Emanuel: U.S. Must Stay Locked Down For 12-18 Months Until There’s A Vaccine | Video | RealClearPolitics
and now the nevermind…
‘We can learn to live with’ Covid: Full Dr. Emanuel & Dr. Gounder (nbcnews.com)
Emanuel promoted his Whole Lives program where nobody over 75 would get treatment. “Give grandma a pain pill,” said Obama. Now they won’t even do that unless you are in hospice.
That this evil monster is advising Biden, along with Fauci, well, we definitely are back in Nazi Germany.
Why does this surprise anyone (except that someone from the CDC points it out)? All of my visits to the CDC’s covid-19 statistics clearly showed that only about 6% of covid deaths were people with no (known) co-morbidities.
No one here is surprised.
The point is that they are only admitting any of this because the ship is sinking–and the galley slaves are starting to notice the water over their knees.
I wonder when we’ll hear the thud from the fall of this “flying Walensky”.
That would do it.
Canadian lawyer hospitalized for vax-related heart ailment. He was doubled vaxxed and then “boosted.” And despite the serious cardiac complications he developed as a direct result of the vax, HE’S STILL PROMOTING GETTING VAXXED. Considers himself collateral damage!
https://www.theblaze.com/news/canadian-lawyer-hospitalized-for-vaccine-related-heart-ailment-i-accept-my-role-as-collateral-damage-of-the-vaccine-rollout-he-even-got-a-booster
That’s the kind of guy that you want to recruit if you’re a cult leader.
Good lord! What is wrong with these people.
Their loyalty to the State is killing them and they are okay with it.
It is not their loyalty to the state. It is their hatred of God and His creation.
He considers himself “collateral damage?” Well, bless his heart.
I saw a thread of a mum whose son got myocarditis from the shot. It was a set of chronological screenshots put together, I suspect by someone else. It began with her loving the shot and then she was saying that her son now has a lifelong heart condition. It was very sad. Then in the final screenshot she said she has now booked her daughter in for the shot. I almost fell over at that last one!!!
While main stream media condemns using ivermectin the most populated area in India simply declared they’re actually COVID free after promoting this safe tested medicine. In addition to this, Ivermectin attaches covid spike proteins and stops them from binding to ACE2 receptors. I recommend everyone to have ivermectin for emergency situations https://ivmpharmacy.com
“…Ivermectin attaches [attacks?] covid spike proteins and stops them from binding to ACE2 receptors…”
“C” for effort; but only if you can come up with the research to back that up.
Actually, never mind.
You have eyes, you have hands. It is your duty to “Fact Check” me if you wan to believe or not. Don’t expect everything served on a plate. You are not a baby anymore.
I wouldn’t mind if they didn’t spam threads repeatedly with a commercial advertisement. But hey, not my site.
The mechanisms of action of ivermectin against SARS-CoV-2—an extensive review
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41429-021-00491-6
The FDA has been getting the USPS to block delivery of ivermectin from outside the U.S. Is this pharmacy website you are promoting having this happen to their shipments?
If you don’t buy in large quantities nothing will happen. I saw that news. I think it is a scare tactic to defer people from to get their ivermectin from overseas.IVM is a FDA approved drug and anyone can buy FDA approved medicine. They want to block access this medicine every way possible. Doctors can’t prescribe it. They get threatened with losing of license. Pharmacies can’t give it over the counter like before covid-19 started. Big pharma wants only option to be getting injected with their posion.
If you don’t get vaxxed in Quebec, you can’t by certain eniebriants.
https://www.theblaze.com/news/quebec-covid-vaccines-alcohol-cannabis
I frankly would not condemn those who decide to start doing smash and grabs.
burn the system down.
Now I wonder how many died from use of remdesivir and misuse of ventilators? How many died from lack of quick treatment?
Remdesivir works very well, but like most things in life it’s all about timing.
https://cllsociety.org/2021/12/early-remdesivir-to-prevent-progression-to-severe-covid-19-in-outpatients/
See what I mean?
More people have been killed by improper care than anything else associated with Covid. Ventilators kill people.
I have seen a few claiming that data supports 85-90% of deaths could have been prevented if they used the ivermectin drug cocktail protocol.
She is insufferable. While the Cabbage Patch doll was trying to interview her yesterday she would dance around the question and ultimately pivot to advocating for vaccines, boosters, etc. Every.single.answer. Sounded more like the marketing arm for Pfizer as opposed to someone (allegedly) responsible for public health and advocacy.
COVID was never the threat they made it out to be. Part of the reason for pandemic fatigue is by now, so many people have had the disease and survived with no lasting ill effects people simply aren’t scared anymore.
Make no mistake, it IS much deadlier to even the healthy without co-morbidities than the flu. I recall a figure that healthy adults with no other health problems number about 10,000 deaths which is far more than die of the flu in a given year. But the over the top hysterical response to it was never justified even in light of that.
Remember, one of the first celebrities to come down with COVID back in 2020 was actor Tom Hanks, a diabetic in his 60’s. At the time we all figured Forrest Gump was a goner, and it was just a matter of time before all of us lost someone in our immediate circle. But guess what – hardly anyone dies. Tom Hanks survived!
Where is your source for “it is much deadlier to even the healthy without co-morbidities than the flu”
You just can’t make a statement like that without a citing a scientific study to back up your claim.
And if folks who contracted WuFlu were treated accordingly before having to be hospitalized, we would be talking about far fewer deaths!
https://covid19criticalcare.com/covid-19-protocols/
“it is much deadlier to even the healthy without co-morbidities than the flu”
Jeffery is correct. Somewhere around 3x up.
Alas, you’ll have to do your own education on the numbers.
nah, 6% (per CDC) x 900,000 deaths is only 54,000. As VSG said at the very beginning, flu causes about 76,000 deaths on average per year.
54,000 Wuflu is less than 76,000 Flu flu
76,000 is including all those people with 4 or more comorbidities. The flu kills very few healthy adults, but lots of elderly people in poor health succumb to it.
A very quick search of the interwebs for “COVID 19 deaths without comorbidities” turns up a COVID skeptic site stating that only 6% of the deaths are people with zero comorbidities.
Current US death toll on 1/10/2022 according to CDC is 835,302. If we take that 6% number that means approximately 50,000 healthy adults died of The Coof. As in, not elderly; not obese; not diabetic; not suffering from cardiovascular, kidney, or autoimmune disease.
Which means COVID-19 is about as deadly to young, healthy adults as the seasonal flu is to the elderly.
Yep, the seasonal flu is not deadly at all to young healthy adults. Cv can be.
It’s not in any way comparable, if you use genuine science.
The flu has treatments. Covid has withheld treatments. What would the numbers be if they were either both treated or both untreated.
The data collection for covid is wrong. Any death with covid is a covid death. What would the numbers be if both the flu and covid had the same data collection rules.
And that’s just an initial thought. Covid has skewed methods of data collection, so it is not comparable to other illnesses. It is intentionally grossly exaggerated.
There are no treatments from in-progress flu just palliation. Anti virals need to be taken in advance .(And maybe mega Vit C if you’re a believer).
that is not necessarily true..and scientifically it has proven untrue.
the problem with making generalizations, is that there is not such things as
1.3 children per family.
One insurmountable problem is what is a Cv death. Only a very few research autopsies are done.
‘With’ and ‘of’ are very rubbery concepts.
If you have co-morbidities and would probably not have died unless you also have Cv, what killed you?
People may not be scared of the virus anymore but what I am seeing is that they still are scared of the government, scared of being locked out of restaurants and sports stadiums, scared of losing their jobs or not being able to fly to a tropical vacation spot. In other words, the initial scare gave the government and the corporations, i.e. the fascists, the opportunity to “train” the people to obey. And obey they will.
Well a lot of them anyway.
The most simple and sound argument against mandates is that the vaccines DO NOT WORK. This is proven fact. So much so that the CDC changed the definition of a vaccine. Twice in the last 12 months!!
How can SCOTUS not know this?
And the fact that vaxxed are spreaders but yet the mandates only target unvaxxed who may have natural immunity. It is all so frustrating that more people can’t see the lies.
Didn’t the CDC say in late 2020 that only 6% of reported Covid deaths were FROM COVID? Then they lowered it to only 5%…. How many years of data does this cover?
It was from the beginning. Leaders of many countries announced very early that all deaths with a positive covid test result will be recorded as a covid death.
4 or more comorbidities? jesus. bad shape to begin with. what the hec these people do with their lives?
This is why I never trusted the government’s numbers. They were BS from day 1 because they were designed to make Trump look bad. Then when Trump was gone, it was too late to turn back. The SOB’s had to ride the lie out no matter what. How stupid does one have to be to still trust these people after all of this?
This is bigger than Trump and America. It’s international. However, yes, Trump and America are part of it.
Pfizer CEO promises new vax to fight omicron in March. I know not whether to laugh or cry.
https://therightscoop.com/pfizer-ceo-promises-new-vaccine-to-fight-omicron-in-march/
Walensky is my favourite corrupt Democrat bureaucrat! She must be from the flying Walenskys…
Not “madness.” Evil.
This fits the statement made by Dr. Birx before she retired and her daughter was given a cushy job within Big Pharma, in March 2020 that the numbers were OVERSTATED by 50-95%, with respect to China Virus impacts.
going to assemble the subsets just in time for the by election. better than never.
They must not believe they have the midterm steal totally in the bag.
I’m noticing today that non political people on YouTube various channels, forums….pretty much everywhere on the internet….are suddenly talking about this walk back and realizing how completely they’ve been had. It’s very much the topic of the day.
They’re not angry, exactly. I think that will come later. They’re seeing a bigger slice of the whole picture, though!
Yes the millennial Karens and Kevins are realizing now that they are going survive after all – Rochelle W. has decreed it so…
That’s encouraging!! Please keep us informed, I’m not on social media… other than here…
Ace of Spades HQ (mu.nu): Washington Post: Men Are Getting Tons of Vasectomies In Support of Abortion Rights!
Men ARE getting vasectomies in record numbers.
They’re called “vaccines”.
Burn it all down and start over with no dems allowed to hold office for 100 years
Burn it all down and start with no political parties allowed.
President George Washington was right.
Read his farewell address.
Identity politics in action is so bad they have to get her a pr person same as Buttkieg and Camel Hairs, acting lessons, the reason is they are incompetent and when they get called out they block you with the shield of protection. GOP has no clue how to play in this game.
Finally this comes out 2 years into this planned Covid scamdemic?? Thinking people like everyone on CTH began to realize May-June 2020 not all the dead were “from” Covid.
Right now I am mad. Our Governor in Delaware today came out with another — wait for it- mask up mandate. It’s to start 8 am Tuesday-masks everywhere (indefinite time frame) except curiously houses of worship are exempt. What’s with that? This can’t be happening again. I will not comply!
There was a lawsuit in MN after the governor shut down churches last year. The mask mandates in Minneapolis and St Paul don’t apply; we have a link in our bulletin to the mandate so the one who think everyone should always mask can see that it doesn’t apply and they can’t force other parishioners to mask, nor can Father.
I’ve always been an avid reader and a thinker from an early age. I guess living on a ranch, where the nearest neighbor is 5-10 miles away lends itself to that.
One thing for sure – I’ve NEVER had a problem with entertaining myself or being bored. “Playing with a friend” often involved my horse or my dog. On more than a few hot, sunny days, I actually used to lie, bareback, on my horse in the shade of an big ‘ol Elm tree. My feet over his neck, and my head pillowed on his rump. And I would read.
Anyway, the other day I was reading about the French Revolution, and I took a few minutes to reflect on the difference in the methods of punishment used then and during Nuremberg.
I decided that the French guillotine was far and away more horrifying than hanging! Can any of us forget, as youngsters, the first time we saw a photo in a history book of the guillotine having been used? The basket, the head, the observing crowd…ARG! I never will! Such is the stuff of nightmares!
Now, I have to think about something HAPPY…maybe agree to watch a Hallmark movie tonight!
guillotine works too quickly on some people
I like the rack, placing bets on which limb gets detached first
Your life sounds perfect!
What is left unsaid is that if 75% had 4 or more, what % had 3? What % had 2? 1?
Or especially zero.
And what percentage of them were obese or elderly, which seems to be the worst ones.
Its an average… and its actually 95%… and it ranges from 1 to 10 Co-morbidities…
FYI- most coroners can only list 4 co-morbidities as causes of death… they have to list additional on other notes section…
We know only about 6% of COVID deaths had zero comorbidities: So about 19% of the remainder had 3 or less.
At best, covid pulled forward deaths among those who likely didn’t have long to live anyway. #scamdemic.
Quite a while ago, the UK had done a study where they determined that the vast majority had less than 6 months left anyway.
Then there had been an article saying that we are destroying young lives in order to save a couple of months for someone elderly or terminal.
CDC publishes a lot of data, and maintains databases accessible to the public that are regularly updated. While Walensky, Fauci and the news are finally acknowledging the gap between “with” vs “from” Covid, much of the data has been there all along.
In April 2020, CDC modified its recommendations for listing Underlying Cause of Death (UCOD) on death certificates to “aid” in monitoring the Covid pandemic: where before the primary cause of death was the one listed at bottom as the UCOD, and other co-morbidities were listed elsewhere on the form, during the pandemic, every death in which Covid was diagnosed, either by lab test or by observation of symptoms, Covid-19 was recommended to be listed as the UCOD. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/vsrg/vsrg03-508.pdf. This tended to grossly overstate cause of death from Covid.
The extent of that overstatement was suggested in the introduction to a table published based on 2020 data reported up through early December 2020 analyzing “Conditions contributing to” Covid-19 deaths by age group. The data showed that there were 255,508 Covid-19 deaths reported up to that time. In the explanatory introduction, CDC revealed that “For 6% of the deaths, Covid-19 was the only cause mentioned.” In addition, the average number of co-morbidities among those who died was 2.9. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/health_policy/covid19-comorbidity-expanded-12092020-508.pdf
So there was early on a deliberate change made to rules for reporting UCOD having the effect of substantially magnifying the number of Covid deaths being reported, this magnified number was fed into the daily Big Lie fear-porn reporting, and the public was made to fear Covid above all things.
Now those chickens are coming home to roost because the track record of the USA’s pandemic response is absolutely pathetic compared to all other countries, from dead last on most criteria, to bottom 10% of all nations on the bottom line cases and deaths per million population. www.worldometers.info
And now there’s a statistical study (non-peer-reviewed preprint) showing that the countries who launched a vaccine strategy as their primary line of defense had on average much higher cases and deaths per million than those that did not, during the 2 years following launch.
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Kyle-Beattie/publication/356248984_Worldwide_Bayesian_Causal_Impact_Analysis_of_Vaccine_Administration_on_Deaths_and_Cases_Associated_with_COVID-19_A_BigData_Analysis_of_145_Countries/links/61931b0507be5f31b78710a8/Worldwide-Bayesian-Causal-Impact-Analysis-of-Vaccine-Administration-on-Deaths-and-Cases-Associated-with-COVID-19-A-BigData-Analysis-of-145-Countries.pdf?origin=publication_detail
‘The reality of COVID is now harder to hide… the narrative must adapt accordingly.’
In other words, the gaslighting continues apace.
critical thinking alert:
what is the body response to a simple crisper injection with no dna sequence. just simple vehicle injection with empty cartridge and only contains a crisper backbone.
I haven’t checked this myself, but it’s been reported that her comment is being taken badly out of context – that she was only referring to deaths among those who are fully vaccinated. So the issue might be drastically different for those who are unvaxxed (although I’d expect unvaxxed who’d already had covid would be in the same boat as those who are fully vaxxed in this regard, from naturally acquired immunity).
So we’d have to have the comparable statistics for the death rate in unvaccinated people and how many comorbidities they did or didn’t have to be able to really tell how meaningful this is for all, rather than just for those who are vaccinated (and likely those who have already had covid too).
Regardless, the lack of solid meaningful data all the way around is an incredible tragedy and disgrace.
Did you forget that people were dying long before there was a vax?
They were dying long before covid too. Anybody taking that number into consideration?
Sure, just look up the annual or monthly excess mortality figures. That compares the past year (or month, etc.) with a baseline of the last several years prior to that. There were far more deaths than normal starting once covid hit.
Of course not. What does that have to do with my point? My point is still entirely valid.
This is political damage control. Viola Pedo in chief reduce covid death. Look out for lapdog media spinning it.
The cdc finally admitted, what those who didn’t buy the death by covid scam, have known all along. The fake experts, had no choice but to stop the charade, because the exaggerated numbers simply defied reality.
To think this lady is an M.D. Wow, I now expect to get my health info from a Dietician! Always wondered why in training to become a doctor, nutrition was never taught.
Walensky is from a privileged class of immigrants from Russia!
She looks like G Maxwell’s sister, don’t you think? yuk
Probably how she got into Harvard!
Just like Obama did. With the help of the CIA.
She knows what she is doing/saying. She is a communist activist following the “great reset” orders
Nutritional training is as little as four hours to two weeks in total only but if the training doctor desires to learn about nutrition it is another one year course and a bag of money. These medical courses are owned and set up by the pharmaceutical industry to teach doctors how not to do medicine and to accept the mantra of writing only a prescription. The expression, ‘You are what you eat’, is purposely lost on the chemical driven pharmacologist designs. To make my point more clear, in the last decade the three main vaccination providers for Covid-19 have paid out $12.5 billion dollars through criminal courts. Many more claimants do not succeed and others can only dream of suing.
The Covid death number is now hurting Biden so the liars are coming clean to lower the Covid death count.
To think all the lives and businesses that were ruined just to lockdown the economy in attempts to destroy Trump.
All just a lie. As we all knew since 2020 lockdown.
Bravo! Nailed it!
All part of the great global reset – which is why all of the Western nations who have benefited from a weakened U.S. economy have been all too happy to participate in this scam. Trump was winning all of these global trade battles. Covid was the play of the Chinese and U.S. communists to take out Trump. And countries like Australia, Canada, Britain, Germany, and France were losing to a resurgent U.S. (and scared of rising nationalism across the globe). Therefore, these Western nations must also commit to the narrative of a global pandemic.
If the U.S. was alone in asserting the need to shut down it’s economy, then the ruse would be manifest. Covid was unleashed to effectively undermine the President of the United States. Previous efforts to eliminate Trump via impeachment or the 25th Amendment had all failed (despite participation of Five Eyes nations). There was only one other way to undermine Trump, and that was by unleashing a disease with a death narrative that he could not control.
Then, by denying therapeutics to people who might otherwise recover and by manipulating statistics to exaggerate the death count, the urgency of the need for global participation in the effort to remove Trump demanded full participation with the cooperation of marionettes (politicians) under the control of multinationals. And there was a bonus to the international political elites (chosen by the multinationals) that they could cement control over their own populations for their own benefit.
That and make $$billions from a poisonous injection
That’s secondary to One World Global/Corporate governance.
Possibly ,but why then are all the big business and Hospitals and Blue state NY Governor going all in on their own “must vax” or be fired – If Biden loses in SC , will businesses still be free to require ” vax or be fired ” as business policy? State and City Gov’t too ?
It’s OK for them to do it, as long as Biden isn’t responsible.
NO federal mandate will nullify all biz requirements. Big biz is using Biden mandate….
NY is going full steam ahead into complete fascism, with or without the Supremes.
Our state Legislature already has about 10 bills on the agenda that will make life impossible for the Pure Bloods.
FWIW, running against AOC for congress.
“When people are lining up to test for something they don’t even have symptoms for, you know the brainwashing runs deep.”
Biden is cutting off hospital reimbursements if they don’t comply.
COVAX is a lump sum purchase.
you need the DEMAND high at PURCHASE TIME – and who cares after the entire population’s purchase was made.
https://4thamendmentrestored.com/f/did-pharma-faucci-the-fed-utilize-covid-media-against-the-usa
set at 82second mark. enjoy – blood thirst is normal later in time.
I couldn’t believe this when I saw it.
In your face JoronaCon.
GAVI Grifter Gates.
Let’s Go GAVI!
In a word, “Politics.” The SC has become the Left’s extension in politics. Constitution be damned!
The SC has become as useless as the hind t(ea)t on a boar hog!