Candace Owens likely felt some need to follow up on her interview with President Trump due to overwhelming opinion of Trump’s vaccine position. Unfortunately, she attempts to reconcile President Trump’s position by casting aspersions toward him [Daily Mail Article].
Mrs. Owens reconciles President Trump’s support for the three COVID-19 vaccines by saying he’s too old to understand the troublesome vaccine information and doesn’t use the internet for his research. WATCH:
https://youtu.be/IBOk3b3BJjM
President Trump’s position on the vaccines –as a tool in the arsenal to combat the pandemic– is essentially unremarkable. Trump supports the vaccines that were developed, under the goal of providing protection for people against the SARS-CoV-2 virus, by the scientific community. However, President Trump repeatedly insists that no one should be mandated to take the vaccine.
The essential Trump position has consistently been:
‘The American and international scientific and medical establishment have determined that SARS-CoV-2 represents a significant threat to public health. In response, the United States Center for Disease Control (CDC), the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and the U.S. National Institute of Health (NIH); in coordination with the World Health Organization (WHO) and various governments around the globe, have worked with scientists and pharmaceutical companies to develop vaccines to be deployed under emergency authorizations. Those vaccines are available for the American public to consider and use, if a person is worried about their health risk.’
That’s it, that’s the sum total of President Trump’s position.
Trump doesn’t feel people should be pressured, forced, coerced or mandated to take a vaccine. Nor should anyone be subject to discrimination or division based on their unique medical decision. Vaccination is an individual choice, and President Trump has said, repeatedly, he respects anyone’s decision either way, and the federal government should not be involved. From my perspective, this is non-controversial.
Additionally, despite the proclamations of many who have even written on these comment sections, this position is not only the same as Florida Governor ¹Ron DeSantis, but also identical.
Again, position encapsulated: “Here’s what the professionals who work for your federal government have come up with, use them as you see beneficial to yourself and your family.”
In addition to the vaccine development approach, in 2020 President Trump authorized the U.S. medical community to work collaboratively to immediately provide therapeutic options and antibody treatments as tools and resources for doctors and infected patients to use in treatment.
Critics of President Trump have argued that the former president should now be taking a strong position in opposition to the vaccines as a result of new information which undermines the original efficacy of them. The vaccines now require boosters, and the vaccines do not stop the spread of infection, ergo they are useless or potentially worse, might cause harm.
Despite these issues, the position of the United States government has not changed, and all of the previous U.S. medical institutions who advised on the original approach toward vaccination against the pandemic have not reversed their position. Those are the current decision makers for public health, not Donald Trump.
The public ire directed toward President Trump would be more appropriately targeted toward the professionals in the scientific and medical establishment who are in the current position to make a modification or reversal in their approach.
There are many people using hindsight to criticize President Trump saying: with revelations over the past two years the entire U.S. medical establishment no longer holds credibility. However, at the time those original pandemic mitigation decisions were made, and President Trump activated a Cornavirus Taskforce led by Vice President Mike Pence, how many American people really understood the political nonsense happening deep inside the CDC, FDA and NIH?
It’s fair to say almost no one knew how corrupt those institutions of U.S. public health were at the time when the first concerns of the COVID virus were raised. Similarly, few people knew how corrupt the FBI and U.S. intelligence apparatus was in 2016 when those institutions were spying on and targeting candidate Trump. Most of the identified revelations of historic corruption surface only as a result of investigations after the fact.
Approximately two-thirds of the American population have taken the vaccine shot(s), and a large number of them are currently in the process of getting boosters. We can only imagine what would happen if the U.S. government was to officially state the vaccinations are now determined to be detrimental in some manner or form. That’s why it is certain, regardless of the danger or lack thereof from the vaccination itself, the U.S. government will never, ever, reverse course on their claims of vaccine safety, or even value.
Expecting some entity or individual in the United States to be capable of forcing the United States government, or any medical institution within it, to admit they are potentially harming the public – is an exercise in futility. It will never happen. Ever. That Rubicon was crossed well over a year ago.
We are now at the point where the FDA is authorizing, under emergency use processes, just about anything the medical establishment tells them to authorize. Which, understandably, has resulted in even fewer people participating in anything the FDA, CDC and NIH come up with.
Is the COVID-19 virus, or any iteration of a variant therein, likely no worse than a severe flu strain? The answer to that has always been, maybe. When you layer on sunlight showing how political the FDA, CDC & NIH institutions are, the answer shifts to ‘more than likely.’ However, we are operating now with a hindsight that was not available before, and even now data is still kept from the overwhelming majority of the American people, and Big Tech has been instructed to do exactly that.
Candace Owens reconciles President Trump’s position by saying, “he’s old” and “he doesn’t use the internet for his own research.” To me that is not only curt and ridiculous, that position shows me Mrs. Owens does not understand the importance of the stable mindedness needed for success at the scale of a United States president.
I said at the early phase of the COVID fear and pandemic rising how we were fortunate to have Donald Trump in the White House, because his general disposition is to permit individual states and individual people to make their own decisions.
At a time, when COVID panic was at its apex, Trump could have gone full totalitarian dictator, and few would have flinched. But he didn’t… instead he urged calm and told the American people to act prudently, but do not allow fear to overcome us.
All of the issues around vaccines are related to scientific and medical community practices. Neither Donald Trump or Ron DeSantis is a scientist or a doctor, and they can only rely upon the opinions, suggestions and recommendations provided to them by experts in these fields.
It is one thing for you and me to have research-based opinions on vaccines that may or may not align with scientific consensus. It is another kettle-o-fish entirely for Donald Trump to have an opinion, where his public statements are weighted toward national policy for public health.
I specifically remember when President Trump told us from the White House podium that the media-driven hype over the COVID-19 “was a hoax,” and the industrial media complex, along with both sides of the political spectrum and the total scientific medical community, blasted him for downplaying the SARS-CoV-2 risk.
From where I sit, given the scale of what has taken place, President Trump’s current position is stable and non-controversial. Essentially, here’s the vaccine tools they say will help, decide for yourself.
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[¹] It is noted there’s a strong correlation between Ted Cruz supporters 2016 and many current Ron DeSantis promoters in 2021.
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It won’t work. The vast majority of the country has a problem with the mandates, not the vaccine itself. I got it and I’m doing just fine. I won’t take a booster but that has nothing whatsoever to do with anything Trump did and everything to do with the fact that I trust the Biden administration and his deals with the drug companies and China about as far as I can throw Michael Moore.
They’ve been trying for years.
Candice Owens is just another Conservative Inc. grifter. She doesn’t like getting boos, so she runs to the mic to divide.
I miss the America where my trip to the doctor was nobody’s business but my own. You’ve got forced vaxxers demanding it. You’ve got anti-vaxxers calling parents child abusers. If you want to take it, take it. If you don’t want to take it don’t take it. In any case, it’s nobody’s business.
If she wants to talk about old people, I happen to know some old people. They remember the problems with polio outbreaks. Smallbox is a nightmare. Vaccines are not bad, and Trump’s generation grew up before the widespread use of vaccines. In short, they remember what the world was like BEFORE vaccines.
I was at a holiday party with my wife a few years ago. One of the docs was in his early 70’s getting ready to retire. We were chatting over a drink and I asked him how much medicine had changed, especially in pediatrics. He told me how the vaccines and treatments had become so good, that it actually took most of the horror out of medicine. “We’ve solved most of the hard problems.” There are new problems now, like underweight babies with brain damage from drug/marijuana and alcohol abuse. Behavior disorders, that sort of thing. But a lot of the big diseases that they used to worry about most in the 50’s-70’s are just…gone.
When Trump talks about vaccines, he’s not talking like some uninformed dolt. He literally grew up in the era when vaccines were new and parents no longer lived in terror of polio (as one example).
We have way too many people who have expanded their opposition to the experimental mRNA vaccines to include all vaccines, and that is dangerous and stupid.
Since the late 1980’s we have vaccinated our children into autism, allergies, auto-immune disorders and a host of other diseases. Vaccines are no longer doing anything to protect our children, quite the opposite. And Big Pharma has complete immunity from liability for any injury these vaccines cause to children in the United States.
He’s trying to get republicans elected to congress in 2022. He cannot now come out against the vaccines. You know what the media would do to him and those candidates. People who don’t like the mandates and vaccines should be putting pressure and their state and local legislators and not rely solely on Trump doing everything. Maybe after the 2022 elections he will say different things, but now is not the time.
Good perspective.
He doesn’t have to come out against the jabs, he could however stop promoting them at every opportunity.
So you think the left wouldn’t notice that pause in a heartbeat and start trying to make him the focus again?
All they want to do is stop people from noticing the stagflation. PDJT is smart to take the pinata away.
And now the splitting up of the CTH people begins.
Wonder how this was accomplished?
It’s been going on for some time. But it’s actually pretty healthy debate. Mostly. 😆
It’s not comfortable reading.
But I think it’s a healthy exercise.
For the first time, I do not agree with you. I took the first two vaccines and do not plan to take any of the boosters. While he was President he had access to a lot of great minds and people. You said it best when you said some obscure website. He does not have to search for something that fits his narrative or helps sell news. He also said that it should be your personal choice. Sounds to me like a man that knows what he is talking about.
I see the biggest problem with Trump is that he is not a general at a time we need a general.
In this context I don’t mean a general necessarily for a military perspective.
What I mean is that Trump is a fighter, but he is an intellectual fighter and that is all. He is not a physical fighter and he is loathe to implement anything that may result in physical violence.
But alas, violence is the way of Man. Always has been and always will be. What separates us is the ability to turn it off once the righteous battle is won. There is evil out there and they are willing to use violence. We too must be willing to do so.
The response to the 2020 coup was such a time. If Trump had commanded the American people would have seized the ballots and voting machines from the nefarious Counties. These could have been publicly inspected and forensically audited with total transparency. The result would have justified the necessary violence to seize that evidence. But he would not do it and here we are.
Make no mistake the #FascistLeft noticed that too. They will not stop. Until they are stopped. And a ballot won’t do it.
As far as I’m concerned, Trump handled the China virus perfectly. He never mandated vaccines, masks, or lock downs and he was strongly pushing therapeutics and natural immunity for people who had already gotten it. Isn’t that what we all wanted and still want from our government?For him, the whole point of warp speed was to protect the most vulnerable among us, and not to vaccinate every man, woman, and child in the country. I got my Moderna vaccine over 9 months ago and I’m doing just fine. I won’t be getting any boosters, but that has nothing to do with Trump.
The reason people are so skeptical about the vaccine is because the government and corporations are being so heavy handed about forcing them upon us. Common sense should have told them that bullying people into taking a vaccine will cause massive skepticism of said vaccine. It’s human nature to be skeptical when somebody is trying to to force something on you when you have no idea what’s in it or the long term effects of it. And it’s also inevitable that putting a foreign substance in people’s bodies will affect some of them in a negative way. That’s even true with aspirin and penicillin.
I am dismayed by the negativity displayed here regarding President Trump and Covid.
Sundance has explained that the President’s stance has not changed. He is anti mandates. And many more Americans could have died without the Warp Speed programme he spearheaded to speed up vaccine production. The commentators here seem to have forgotten that.
I sense some underlying “CNN” style anti-Trump campaign going on here. The foxes are in the hen house!
How do you know that many more Americans would have died without Warp Speed? I’ve had covid and many of my acquaintances have had it as well – we survived just fine as have most others.
Also – I voted for Trump twice and, while I do question his capabilities based upon his vaccine statements, if he was running again I’d probably vote for him. (…certainly not voting for Cruz!)
If there were any sort of 4D chess plans going on I’d say that Trump isn’t interested in running and is shifting the mantle to Desantis. As Sundance has noted Desantis has a similar view that the vaccine should be either taken, or not taken, depending on each individuals preference. I think that side-steps the issue of vaccine harm but it IS pragmatic.
My issue with Trump is that he acts as a champion of the vax through his words, rather than a man merely suggesting options. Anyone who says this vax is great is misguided, unaware, or has an ulterior motive.
By maintaining his position he distances many supporters from himself while also not opposing the views of Desantis. He also massages his ego in public which he seems to enjoy.
It’s all speculation but one can only speculate when considering Trump’s refusal to identify the harm being done with this vaccine.
We’ll all fall closer to our own point of view with our speculations but that doesn’t mean we have to be against each other.
I made sure my wording said “could have died” not “would have died” and we will never really know for sure.
How soon some here are ready to jump on an anti-Trump bandwagon. How soon we forget all these man sacrificed for the American people.
There’s been some quite reasonable speculation here that PDJT did not mean millions dying from just the virus.
If he knew that the World Economic Forum and the rest of the globalarchy had a multi-year lockdown planned in which to turn the entire world into a slave planet, he would know how many millions of deaths from other causes (starvation etc.) were possible. That could only happen if (what he thought at the time was a vaccine) was delayed. So of course he fought for it.
Those who say he was threading a needle make plenty of sense to me.
Yes, because a virus that has a 99.8 percent survival rate overall and a 95 to 96 percent survival rate for people over 85 is so deadly.
I am heartened to see so many debating the extremely problematic stand PDT has taken on the vaccines. It was clear throughout 2021 that this could potentially divide the MAGA Army like nothing else. I was queasy about the trajectory already in March 2020.
I love Candace, and suspect she knows full well what she’s doing here in being so provocative in her unusually harsh and personal criticism. WE CANNOT AFFORD A DIVIDED MAGA and if PDT’s reluctance to face the MAGA Army’s concerns head-on (the sinister political exploitation of an intentionally released bioweapon, IMHO being #1), then perhaps kicking up the dust like Candace has done here is what’s needed to get something happening before the splintering in the movement becomes irreparable.
Correlation? I don’t think so.
I never supported Cruz. I WOULD support DeSantis.
But. . .Trump must be returned to the Presidency in 2024 (Jan 2025) to show the left that we will not just walk away when they steal an election from us. Principle demands it. This is over and above the fact that Trump is the first President since Reagan to turn the ratchet from tyranny back the other way toward liberty.
Again, position encapsulated: “Here’s what the professionals who work for your FBI and DoJ have come up with. Believe them as you see beneficial to your political party to fraudulently take power and punish your enemies.”
That’s it. Who could argue with that?
The story is more about Owens than PDJT. While there is nothing wrong with going from anti Tea Party, anti MAGA, anti-Trump, to pro all that…..still, where is her core. I see her like Ann Coulter without the writing skills.
Trump and his advisors were misled by the “DC Medical State”, a politically immersed, scientifically atherosclerotic “, top down bureaucracy interested in its’ growth and survival, while shielding its’ complicity in some very questionable Corona Virus research. The “Public(US taxpayer)-Private Partnership”, whereby the “private entity” was the Chinese People’s Liberation Army, must be thoroughly investigated and presented to the US public
The DC Medical State had three missions…First, its’ counsel of our President regarding “emergency measures”, which seems to have originated from available “Hospital/Research Lab Infection Control SOP (years old “Standard Operating Procedure”, with minimal tweaks).
Secondly a vaccine had to be developed.
Thirdly, the acquisition and dissemination of REAL information, useful for both the public and the politicians who were understandably ignorant regarding infectious epidemics. I believe the information acquired and disseminated was controlled by “others” interested in political interests…instead of Public Health.
How much of the first three NECESSARY responses were delayed due to bureaucrats and scientists attempting to cover their involvement in joint research of Coronavirus, WITH the Chinese Laboratory believed to have been the source for the epidemic ?
A FULL INVESTIGATION IS WARRANTED.
Blaming politicians is a worthless endeavor. We the People must determine what was done RIGHT, and what was done that was WRONG regarding THIS pandemic.
This Pandemic may have NOT been “accidental”, and if not…there may be future intentional epidemics.
We the US must be protected from our enemies…and unfortunately we must also be protected from the DC Medical State !
More thoughts to come…later !
Excellent article! I distinctly recall PDJT after his own hospitalization expressing his desire that the same treatment and care that had been given to him should be available to all Americans. I notice also that he has lost quite a few pounds. Maybe he should tout a new Covid weight loss program to make them all go even crazier!
Twice I remember (and noted) DeSantis saying the identical position as 45. He just no longer says it.
“Candace Owens reconciles President Trump’s position by saying, “he’s old” and “he doesn’t use the internet for his own research.” To me that is not only curt and ridiculous, that position shows me Mrs. Owens does not understand the importance of the stable mindedness needed for success at the scale of a United States president.”
Totally agree. CO lacks the intellectual maturity (not saying she isn’t intelligent) and WISDOM one gets usually with age. Can’t say it enough: she lacks wisdom. That puts her on the same level as many others — either side.
[¹] It is noted there’s a strong correlation between Ted Cruz supporters 2016 and many current Ron DeSantis promoters in 2021.
Hmmm…Interested perspective. Explains a lot about people who are criticizing 45 in support of DoS. I’ll be interested in more discussion on the “strong correlation” aspect. IMO the Cruz supporters never fully embraced 45. Sorta like the RINOs.
In Rev. 3:15-16, God speaks to the hot (passionate) believer, the cold (nonbeliever) and the lukewarm believer. He says:
“I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot; I wish that you were cold or hot. 16 So because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will vomit you out of My mouth.”
The lukewarm believer does not lose their salvation, but God can’t use them for His kingdom as they are lukewarm in their faith. They blow whichever way the wind blows. They do damage and are a stumbling block to believers and to nonbelievers. God says they are worse than the unbeliever.
This is how I feel about people who complain about 45. They’re lukewarm supporters on 45. Can’t rely on them. As I have posted many times: Whiners can’t be warriors. They do more harm than good in the MAGA movement — just like and equivalent to lukewarm believers in God’s kingdom. That’s God’s assessment and I agree with it.
I’m in the “way” over the hill gang… So many my age previously *refused* the annual flu shot because they said the “hell with it” (especially men) or it made them so freakin sick (especially women) that they would not take it again ever. I for one have gotten the flu shot on occasion, but was not fanatical about it… I am only speaking of family/friends I know..
Re this *shamdemic* jab, from the get go it was suspect.. as for myself, it’s a definite NO!.. Most people I know over 70+ (and some younger & children, ugh) have taken the jab… good for them!!!
I never waited for *any politician* to give me health advise over my many, many years.. I agree with Sundance re POTUS Trump’s position- up to you & NO MANDATES…
Nothing *scientific* — just IMHO…
I thought Candace did a very poor job interviewing Trump. Perhaps he knew she would do a bad job and used her.
She didn’t go after him for stating he had gotten a booster after he questioned a couple months ago whether or not boosters were just being used as a money maker by big pharma.
She segued from the non-vaxx part of the interview into the topic of the Notavax by saying something about how people are concerned with the corruption of Big Pharma. But she never really pressed hard on the issue of this corruption.
Did she ask Trump what he thought of the reports in the VAERs database? NO. Did she asked him about anything Robert Kennedy, Jr. raised in his book about the corruption of Fauci? NO. Did she ask him if he was comfortable about vaccine makers’ immunity from being sued for adverse effects? NO. Did she ask him about what he thought about Pfizer wanting to take 75 years to release their clinical study data? NO. Did she ask him to respond to the reports of soccer player deaths? NO. Does she ask him about what he thought of the highly-vaxxed countries shutting down again due to Covid spikes? NO.
There were no hard hitting questions from Candace. I don’t see these great things others see in her. She impresses me not.
She complains that Trump does not use the internet to research alternative sources. Yet she does not cite these alternative sources/voices in her questions to him. She does not confront him with specific, cited alternative points of view on the mRNA vaccines and their effects. She does not force him to respond to specifics. She does not press him. It was a softball interview when it came to the vaxx.
Was this intentional? Maybe it was all designed to get soundbites from Trump extolling the vaccines and their false safety record ?
Maybe Trump himself wants these soundbites out there.
Maybe he is baiting the deep state to play these soundbites because the problems with this vaccines are soon going to be hard to ignore.
So when, why and how does it break out that the Notavax is not only not effective, or reverse effective in terms of ADE, and that it also causes more death, particularly in people under 60, than COVID?
Is something going to bring this to head soon?
The release of 5G on a larger scale?
College football playoffs? Olympic team qualification events?
Arguments before the Supreme Court?
Release of industry health insurance claims data?
Aagh. Meant “his vaccines” not “this vaccines.” Sorry.
Trump had the ability and knowledge to promote early treatment of the Wuhan Flu while still POTUS, and he didn’t. After all this time and knowing what the vaccines do to destroy the immune system, he should be again promoting early treatment. He could have released the government stockpile of HCQ but he did not. He could have put an end to this entire ‘pandemic’ by coming out for early treatment. I know a number of Trump supporters who feel like I do.
That’s a bald faced lie. Trump was pushing therapeutics and herd immunity on day 1. Where are you people coming from anyway? There is no way in hell you were an actual Trump voter if you have already forgotten that they were blaming every single China virus death on him from day 1.
Thanks!
Cruz supporters…a replay. Most won’t be fooled, just won’t bother reading comments, much less respond. They are cruz supporters resurfacing for round 2 or 3.
BINGO! Both them AND the GOPe /Globalist anti-Trumpers doing a ROLCON…..
DOUBLE BINGO!!!
Most people who are capable of seeing through Trump’s bullshit despise Ted Cruz.
Where are you from?
This is accurate. Trump was all about opening up, therapeutics, and herd immunity. Also it is likely that no matter what he did he would have been villified. Assuming (ha) the coof wass a “natural” occurrence (ha) it was terrible luck in handing the media a better weapon than the fake impeachment.
BUT that being said, he did get fooled by the lockdown crowd early on (“just 15 days Mr. President”) and I think more troubling, he allowed the “Task Force” crew of Pence, Birx, et. al., to run around undermining his message and literally saying the opposite of what he was saying for months and months causing untold chaos and disastrous policy. Birx (and probably Pence) ought to have been axed in April, failing that in June, failing that in July, etc. etc., and Pence ought to have been controlled.
On the Birx/Pence nonsense, Scott Atlas’ book is a pretty eye-opening read. Not perfect, but informative, and Atlas isn’t a backstabber, just naive.
Trump never mandated a lockdown, vaccines, or masks. That is a fact. Sure, he asked people to lock down and wear masks, at first, but that’s as far as it ever went with him. Where are people getting this ridiculous revisionist history that he made people lock down or get vaccines?
They’re listening to the onslaught of neverTrumpeters, I guess.
I am not a never Trumper..I loved Trump and still do..but I want this vaccine to be gone and quit bragging about something that isn’t working and causing harm..
What in the world has any of this have to do with a piece of crap vaccine that is killing people..young people..and maybe down the road will harm millions..No one is saying it is his fault..We are saying as the president who was office at the time needs to stop saying how great it is when it isn’t..great and help to find out..why it is still being used when it isn’t working and causing harm..People’s lives are more important than whose blaming who..
Agree 100%! President Trump advocated HCQ and other treatments long before he sped up the vaccine “development”.
He did try, but for me the point is he is now free to speak up loudly, and instead he is telling people it is ok to get the vaxx if they want it, and is in grandeur illusion of what he did aka Warp Speed was a great thing, turns out it wasn’t so great. Four more young healthy soccer players died this week.
Maybe he really ISN’T as “free to speak up loudly” as some might think.
I agree that his public statements (re. the vaxx) are difficult to accept at face value.
But PDJT’s position here is too diametrically opposite every other position on major serious national issues that he has both voiced AND acted upon.
Trump has been proven correct a significant majority of the time with his statements and opinions that the MSM and political opponents immediately try to excoriate to gain some advantage. Those people are usually proven wrong, whether they admit it or not.
Something else is at work with this. I’m not going to speculate. I’ll wait for clear evidence to surface and show us.
The Big Club flying monkeys are landing in the tree.
Trump supported the vaccine from it’s inception and he failed to replace Fauci and others when he had the power to do so. Another politician who had his supporters overly-hyped and started strong but couldn’t cross the finish line. I vow to never again hang my hopes on a man. Only Jesus has what can fix mankind.
Do you have any idea how difficult it is to “fire” a longtime Federal employee as opposed to a political appointee? Fauci was not and is not a political appointee. I’d like to see him gone as well, but Trump couldn’t have simply ejected him. As it was, some coercion was applied to get rid of Birx via resignation / retirement. But Fauci had too much Deep State support and Trump could not have easily ousted him, particularly in an election year. I’ve lived in the Swamp for 50 years and know how this place works. Some people need to learn how this political city works (it’s worse than seeing sausage getting made) before they pop off on what Trump should have done. Such comments as the one above indicate to me that the writer was never a big Trump supporter to begin with.
They still are. They figured out Omicron in about half an hour, it seems…
They did suicide the one African president the did a test on a goat and a piece of fruit. That was terrible. Anything to shut people up.
Not everyone is doing that..We are asking that he take a look at evidence from renowned scientist and docs who say this vaccine was too rushed..not tested properly..and a danger perhaps down the road to how many who took it..Why shouldn’t those questions be answered..That doesn’t mean he has to say..anything..but just take a look at the evidence saying that the vaccine is not a vaccine and needs to be stopped..I would say this no matter who the president had been at the time..We need answers and we the American people deserve it…
JustLikeSpock, you might consider deleting this comment, because it holds little truth to the reality of what transpired in the not too distant past…..do better.
Thanks for the excellent example of trying to sew discord by Big Lie Tactic. President Trump purchased millions of doses of hydroxychloroquine through personal negotiations with Prime Minister Modi of India. Similarly he purchased massive stockpiles of Regeneron monoclonal antibody treatments.
Democrat Governors, acting simultaneously, have threatened and pressured physicians and pharmacists with loss of licensure and livelihood if they prescribe HCQ. They are letting the warehoused HCQ rot rather than saving actual human lives. Regeneron has been weaponized, politicized, and directed primarily to Democrat states only, States like FL get little or none.
President Trump’s position, as presented by Sundance is simply a series of factual statements. The worst day under a Trump presidency is light years better than the best day under the Biden Junto. It’s a Natural Law and Nature’s God vs Communist Crapola thing.
I expect his critics to accuse him of pushing ventilators next.
Pres. Trump was pushing other therapeutics. The politicized medical community attacked him, and went after anyone who advocated for HCQ, Ivermectin, etc
Doctors were threatened with loss of medical license if they prescribed anything for Covid other than what Fascist Fauci was pushing.
The Marxist’s whore
media and Marxist politicians also attacked other therapeutics.
My problem is with calling these drugs vaccines when they aren’t. It goes to credibility.
Imagine the tough time they’d have selling the idea of taking these untested drugs if they didn’t call them vaccines.
I do understand President Trump’s position. For him these drugs are an accomplishment, a feather in his cap as President.
Again, they are not vaccines, they are not effective, they do not provide protection nor do they prevent the shedding of viral loads.
I don’t see how you can categorically say the vaccines were not effective at all. Do you have a study to back that up? Most likely, they did save many lives among the elderly and people with two or more serious co morbidities even if it didn’t keep them from spreading the Wuhan virus. Those are the people warp speed was designed to protect, in the first place. Trump never once said that fairly young and healthy people should take the vaccine if they didn’t want to. Honestly, I don’t see how you can get more reasonable than that.
Keeping to the facts, IMHO we cannot assert the Quackcines’ true “effectiveness” until a few years have passed and we can look at data that documents the health and mortality of the vaxxed (and boostered) population, by age group.
This is why they’re trying to hard to get me and others like me out of the control group…
Let me tell you something. I have a brother in law..who was forced by the hospital to take this vaccine..He had to take the booster as well..He has had many bad reactions and he is depressed wondering what he is going to..deal with down the road..He got the Omicron even with the so called vaccine..Anyone who says this vaccinee is ok..has not researched period..and just feels like they have to be Trump’s defense team..It isn’t about Trump it is about people’s lives and health..So stop..Trump can defend himself..And yes he did a lot of good things..and I think he knows this vaccine is a failure and he just can’t say it..
Not a feather if people are dying and becoming disabled from them. In the past as few as 25 die and the drugs are pulled off the market, as it should be.
About 20 years ago, I had a bad case of Lyme disease (also an old WW2 bioweapon according to all the research I did.)
I struggled with it for about a year. The only thing that helped was antibiotics.
The textbook protocol for treatment was 3 weeks of antibiotics, but every time I finished the 3 week course, I crashed and went begging for more and longer term antibiotic treatment.
Again, from my own research, I learned that the Lyme spirochete had a six week replication cycle, so antibiotics needed to be at least that long, preferably with a two week window in either side — so ten weeks.
Finally, I convinced my doctors and ended up with daily IV antibiotics for 8 weeks, followed by a double dose of oral antibiotics for about a year! Heavy duty, but finally I seemed to have recovered!
Well, when my Infections Disease dr told me about a Lyme vaccine, without hesitation, I said yes!
It was a series of 3 shots. The second one was to be taken 30 days after the first, and the third ‘booster’ one year later.
After taking the first (and ONLY shot!), I got so sick. It was as though the disease had come back with a vengeance! It was like I had Lyme all over again, but worse! It wasn’t just a day or so, I don’t even know how long the feeling of being sick again lasted.
I quickly told my doctor that I was done! Would not take any more shots!
Soon after, this full fda approved vaccine was pulled off the market because of many reactions like mine.
That experience impacted me to the point that I refuse to take something that has not been adequately tested.
It doesn’t matter what PDJT said – Xiden would have lied about it.
I appreciate the level of character assassination, risk of personal ruin, and real physical danger President Trump has and daily does place himself in to do what he thinks is best for the country.
With that said, for some people, he could come out and support any position on any issue, and those people would abandon their own stance to defend and/or make excuses for him. This is not how you participate in a free society. You must follow truth, not individual leaders.
When he says that the vaccinated are all safe, and it is only the unvaccinated that are in danger and dying, which is not factually true, he is echoing a sentiment that puts people like me and my family at risk of persecution by echoing the mainstream scaremongering. Many people who support my right to freely choose whether or not to take the covid experimental pseudo-vax are only persuaded to do so because they concede I might possibly be right about its harmful effects, and thus, I should be able to act on what I perceive as my personal safety, even if they’re not sold on my views. However, when you start to lump me over into the same category of being ‘the problem’ like Biden does, that can lead to an unjust response President Trump might never himself have, but he needs to acknowledge others might.
I don’t care who’s calling him out on it, the truth needs to be said, even if by a flawed party. All these posts trying to make excuses like “Oh well, that’s Candace Owens. She’s Ben Shapiro’s pal” are the same sort of distractions from the truth that are used against President Trump when people harp on his ‘mean Tweets’ instead of their factual political content. If Owens is wrong to criticize his age, fine. Call her out for ageism. But either he IS poorly informed, or is deliberately supporting a position based on falsehood.
There have been a lot of calls to shut up about election fraud not because there isn’t evidence of it, but because it turns off people who refuse to believe in it. Should President Trump shut up about that because some Karl Rove types insist he’ll lose votes? Absolutely NOT. So why play to the masses on this. Great leadership LEADS people in the correct direction, even when that is not the popular direction.
Excellent response.
Thank you and well said. 👍
There is nothing unreasonable whatsoever about Trump’s stance that people who want the vaccine can get it for free and those who don’t want it don’t have to take it. I will not abide anybody who says otherwise…period.
I’ll say it again…most people are skeptical about the vaccine because of the mandates. Everything else is just background noise and speculation. If Biden had continued Trump’s policy of letting the individual make their own choice, there wouldn’t be ten thousand conspiracy theories about why the government wants us to take the jab so badly. If the federal government mandated that every single man, woman, and child in the country had to eat lima beans twice a week, you would bet the exact same results. People would start wondering what in the hell they’re putting in those lima beans that makes the government want us to eat them so badly. It’s simply human nature. The Biden administration don’t understand that because they are not really human anymore. They’re soulless and heartless people who only care about their own wealth and power. Prove me wrong.
Uh no, people aren’t skeptical about the vaxxine because of mandates, they are skeptical because they are killing people.
Wrong, most people are not skeptical of the “vaccines” because of the mandates. Most people are skeptical of the vaccines because they know that it takes 7 to 10 years to safely bring a new drug or vaccine to market and to do all of the testing to make sure they are safe. President Trump’s stance is very unreasonable because he totally ignores all of the deaths and permanent injuries caused by taking the “vaccine”. As Dr. Peter McCullough said, any other vaccine would have been shut down at 50 deaths.
That’s hilarious..Comparing lima beans to a vaccine an human lives..Haha..Never in my life..!!….
I was skeptical about the experimental shot before it even came out. I had already made my decision way before any discussion about mandates. Mandates just further convinced me I had made the right decision. I don’t trust big Pharma one lick. But I think you’re right that it is human nature to go in another direction when the Government tries to push you into something against your will.
Right on poplist poster. Trump should just tell the damn truth about the vaccines-they are next to worthless as a true vaccine-they do not provide immunity at all and they can clearly spread the virus. They only protect the vaxed -and then only marginally.
Clif High has a very good plausible explanation on Trump’s comments on the jabs. Roughly around the 30 min mark. Highly recommended viewing.
https://rumble.com/vrahql-why-is-trump-promoting-the-vaccine.html
Yes. I posted a comment in CTH about Clif’s remarks a day or two ago. While his assertions are a bit more speculative than Sundance’s straight forward, “ just the facts, ma’am” observations, IMHO they are both correct.
Up until I watched Clif’s video, I was concerned and curious about President Trumps public remarks about the covid vaccines. But Clif noted PDJT’s careful use of language, and Sundance reminded us of Trumps unwavering consistency on his stance on mandates and other unethical practices of government and businesses to bully people into forfeiting their right to make personal health choices.
IMHO, Trumps position against the mandates and high pressure campaign by TPTB is the bottom line we should use in our decisions to support him, regardless of his personal opinion of the vaccines benefits.
Excellent! I agree! And glad Dr. David Martin said it! DJT was duped. He was played by the likes of Azar, and Rick Bright of BARDA who assisted in sabotaging HCQ. Trump admin wanted ordered to get HCQ out onto the streets and administered as early treatment. When he was demoted by HHS (incidentally run by Azar, but remember they always protect their own) he went straight to media as a whistleblower on Trumps Covid failures. When Trump heard of this Bright, he had zero clue who he was and what he actually did, because media was concentrated on the Covid failings of Trump Admin according to Bright. What should have happened if Azar was not part of “the play”, is HCQ would have been removed from EUA, which a 70 year old re-purposed drug with excellent safety record doesn’t need a EUA, but FDA should have been forced to make available OTC instead of prescription like many other countries already do. Same with Ivermectin now and all its supported data of high effectiveness. DJT could end this game by supporting the thousands of doctors who support early treatment and preventative measures, allowing doctors to treat as they see fit and shine a bright light on the red states that do just that and condemn the state that block those measures and are firing the front line workers who refuse vaccine and just a few months ago were heroes. And one other thing he could do, quit utilizing the lefts narrative, like the unvaccinated are the ones now being mostly hospitalized and neglects the fact his vaccines are causing major issues and sometimes death. here is good video of Rick Bright bragging on his sabotage contribution. https://www.ourfreedomtube.com/watch/death-sentence-special-thanks-to-dr-rick-bright_JBxj4jHmbRUhiE2.html
Thank you, William, for giving me this link. I had first seen David Martin when I watched the great video of Plandemic 2. This interview touched on a lot of history that has given me a lot to research and keep in mind. It had much of the ring of truth about Trump’s time as President; much of what he described was consistent with my own assessments about Trump’s actions and inactions. Insightful. I appreciate the new resource on Rumble.
I previously commented in this thread…how can I access that comment ?
Help please !
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https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/12/25/candace-owens-reconciles-president-trump-vaccine-position-by-saying-hes-old-and-doesnt-use-the-internet/comment-page-5/#comment-8380734
How did I find it? I brought up each page with ‘JohnGalt‘, your username, in my browser ‘find text‘ box. Took about 30 seconds to do. It appeared on page 5 of the thread. There may be others after. Good luck!
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Hold your mouse over your comment and you’ll see a little cog in the lover right corner. Click on that and the rest should be self explanatory.
All that does is allow you to edit your comment.
Candace Owens can leave the reservation from time to time. She is to wild with her comments for her own good and if she is not careful she could go the way of Anne “witch” Coulter and become totally irrelevant IMHO.
I don’t get why she cares, I am unvaccinated and could careless if one chooses to get it or not. I certainly am not going to fault Trump for recommending the non-vaccines-each to his own.
We care because in many contexts we, who refuse to be Big Pharma’s experimental cattle, are being ostracized and vilified over the outright lie that their jabs are “safe and effective.” By local edict in NOLA I’m not allowed to eat in a restaurant etc. My employer allows me to work remotely, but without proof of lab rat status, I’m not allowed to go to an office, personally meet with any of our vendors or clients, or attend any company functions. We have hugely significant reasons to care about the lies still being pushed about these unsafe, ineffective, and harmful jabs..
Evidence is mounting that it’s not just a lie but a terribly harmful fraud, as the jabs damage broader and longer-term natural immunity and likely created the conditions that led to the rapid rise of the most dangerous variant so far, Delta.
PDJT was misled. His impulses, re multiple treatment paths, natural immunity, and taking reasonable account of the overall unseriousness of OG rona were correct. But he didn’t stick with them, accepted advice and empowered bureaucrats who he should have known were not working in his or our best interests. He did the same thing with DOJ and CIA. The results are proof positive. PDJT was and is a great man, but he’s a man and like all of us, far from perfect.
You hit it..right on the mark..That is it exactly..
exactly what dayall
said, monica…. and all those others out there thinking its ok for trump to try and swing positive on vaxes that are dangerous and ineffective… our kids are being hunted, vax passes are being loaded up in the guns pointed at us, its our permanent take down. it is NOT,”trump’s ok to be neutral. 😀”
trump, like so many times during his presidency, is making fatal errors that my ass pays for. trump goes off into the sunset….our kids future is all but crushed while we justify trump messing it up. NO! these are the same durham/mueller/epstein/ vegas shooters/ junctions in the road, the same bad budget deals, the same caving to commies and rinos….no sundance youve seen this before about a dozen times. it doesnt work. trump has to be right and truthful and fight the gdam evil bastards now! i’m done holding his line for him. as you should be too. i’m old enough to remember debating how jeff sessions is going to save the day on here.
these stances make this wonderful site sound psyop. youre too smart to make the same mistake over and over and over…hold him to task.
sorry too wordy, but needs to be said. stop the groundhog day nonsense with trump.
Seriously. How hard is that? Take away Biden’s mandate and there is no problem.
According to VAERS, hundreds of thousands of vax injured, maimed, dead. I see this as a huge problem and a crime against humanity.
correct. not only f off with the 2yrs of bullshit and mandates and soon osha mandates again and vax passports, so no, not just take away mandates…atone for your crimes against humanity and be hung. communist scum.
Agree with your take on this but not the profanity. We need to be better than of grotesquely profane enemies.
Lots or irony there. She is loose with her comments while talking about Trump’s same behavior.
Owens is a grifter. The “anti vaxx” movement is just the latest for her to glom onto.
See also: campus speech (where is she now? what did she ever actually do?), her laughable ‘blexit’ (never happened) that rode on the coat tails of walk away.
She’s in it for the talk show appearances and to hawk books.
Last week, this woman wrote a puff piece about Nikki for Townhall.
Now this.
Coincidence?
Her remarks after Jan 6 clarified it for me.
Well, well. Those are two tidbits that certainly bother me about Candace.
To be fair though, I actually have a lot more reservations about Bill O’Reilly!
As Dr. Shiva rightly says, elections are selections and Trump was selected. He’s the carrot where Biden is the stick re. the vaccines. It was Trump who pressured the FDA to approve the vaccines quickly without looking to much into the side effects issue. So he’s directly and personally responsible for the injured. Of course, he’s by far the lesser of two evils, but don’t be fooled.
Shiva was always a big question mark in my mind (throw in Bryn, Wood, and others…time will tell!). I can only now thank him for finally being crystal clear about it.
He would have us believe that Trump is just another garden-variety Biden, something that is patently, demonstrably, obviously, and unquestionably false.
I don’t care how many PHD’s from MIT he has, he qualifies as a quack in my mind.
Shiva?
Well, bless his heart…
That’s idiotic. Trump never made a single American get that vaccine. All he did was to make them available for people who wanted them. My God these kind of posts are dumber than a bag of hammers.
he made them available faster and promoted and promotes them. you are correct he didnt force them.
the vaccines havent proven to be what they or he originally sold.
I’ve gone back and forth on Shiva, but you just nailed it for me. He’s over.
Howie Carr has a great instinct about people, and he always said Shiva was a nutcase.
So now we know he really is.
It’s too bad, because Shiva has insinuated himself into many parts of the election fraud battle.
Oh… wait… you thought Shiva was right about PDJT being Deep State?
😂😂😂😂😂😂
not sure on shiva, you may know more about him.
we dont know what djt is though…vax pusher, deep state pass giver, lets election fraud happen like he didnt know it was coming. he did good things too, but theres too
much he let slide, and i dont think he’s stupid….
was for a brief moment the best president ever. he got rolled, not sure why he sat there and let it happen….
the oh he hired the wrong guy thing is horseshit too. he had as much power as a clinton or obama in their first years….maybe not full cia backing…maybe he did though….we dont know.
Candace…..that wasn’t helpful at all. Neither is Trump’s ignorant, ego driven position, but you didn’t help the situation at all.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with Trump’s position to support vaccines but not a government mandate for vaccines. If they can’t make you take it, then they can’t hurt you, right? Where is the conflict?
But it is being mandated by many employers and people are forced to vax or lose their job. Same with military.
This “ vax” is gene therapy bioweapon and is destroying lives- death and disability- and compromising one’s immune system potentially permanently. It is a genocide.
Perhaps you should pry open your mind just a little bit and take in the fact that there’s much, much more to this situation for most people than “Trump Good” or “Trump Bad.” Maybe back away from the keyboard for a bit and stop jumping to Trump’s defense after every post like you’re his bodyguard or something. And while you’re at it, try to work up just a bit of compassion for those who have been injured and/or killed by these injections and their families, along with the millions who feel they’re being F.O.R.C.E.D. into taking an injection they don’t want in order to preserve/protect their way of life.
your premise has left the barn already…employers, military, hospitals, major cities…. you cede to where your stance is and its vax pass city. the vaxes have done more damage than we’re even imagining right now, especially comparatively speaking to other vaxes.
saying you love it is promoting the bullshit….the bullshit leads directly to mandates and eventually vax passes. it already has. this isnt a debate.
The left isn’t having to work very hard to get us focused on something while they do their plotting and scheming. We do it to ourselves.
Five days away from 2022 being here. Less than a year to midterms.
Texas kicks off the primaries in 10 weeks-March 1st, 2022
It’s okay – plenty here can multitask.
I am sick of people dumping on President Trump!!! You don’t know what’s going on behind the scenes. He has his reasons for everything. I am just gonna wait and see what his reasons are. I am NOT gonna dump on him because of what other people say. He is the best President this country has! And yes I said has. Also, I don’t have to explain myself to anyone. So don’t start with me.
Smart woman. Time will prove you correct, as well as Sundance and the others who’ve taken the time to understand the context and strategy behind President Trumps public statements.
Amen, again.
I am tired of playing the guess what my strategy is..game…This is all people say…You don’t understand..He has a plan..you just don’t know it..These are people’s lives..it is not a game..I know Trump is unpredictable and I understand that..but we do have a crisis here with..this jab..not vaccine..It isn’t a vaccine..And there is graphene oxide and who knows what else in that poison..
Well I don’t know his specific strategy, nor probably does anyone here who has been commenting.
But we DO know from experience that President Trump plays a long game (TO WIN) and that he’s been accurate in 99% of his comments and predictions in his 2016 & 2020 campaigns and during his presidency.
I don’t necessarily agree with his willingness to allow “collateral damage” (people who’ve died from the vaxx after hearing him promote it then taking it in trust). But we are each ultimately responsible for doing our own research to discover the truth about experimental medications. So blaming PDJT doesn’t hold water to me. He never claimed to be a doctor or medical expert.
Get your Jab then, Bud.
time has already proven you wrong. save the q nonsense and jeff sessions isnt working with durham to save the republic. what in hell is wrong with you people? youve already been proven wrong! the vax is killing people, maiming them, not stopping transmission.
vax cards all over and mandates like its a mengele experiment in a death camp. canada has “camps”
australia has “camps”. entire
societies and countries destroyed…..
no one needs an explanation from
you, why would they, you’re so far off it doesnt matter what your explanation is, on anything.
its cool though….wait for the plan or second coming or what have you…. it worked out well…
I searched back through my posts of the past couple of years, but cannot find my posts where, according to you, I made statements supportive of Q predictions, Jeff Sessions working with Durham, the Quackcines are really good, western nations are all peachy keen with no “covid quackcine camps”…..etc etc etc.
Or, maybe you just fabricated those implications (that I supported any of that crap) out of thin air to oppose my (and many other Treepers’) support of President Trump….as so many deep state-aligned anti-Trump trolls / pop-in visitors to this site have done in this particular comment thread (highest number of comments of any article I can recall in recent years) over the past 36 hours.
You guys are soooo obvious; you all stick out like a neon sign in CTH: “the world is collapsing because… Trump”
Have a nice day.
Amen.
Trust the plan (even though there’s really no plan)! Worked great throughout 2019 and 2020 didn’t it? Puh-lease!
“Trust the plan”? Old script. Never forget to say “I voted for Trump twice BUT…)
Oh and say “duped.” It appears to be the word of the day.
🤣🤣🤣
Sounds like the people that followed instructions to the gas chambers.
Listening to Owens talking about vaccines is like listening to modern Liberals trying to tell people over 50 that communism isn’t bad, it just hasn’t been implemented properly. It’s like she thinks there are people around who don’t remember what the world before vaccines was like. Trump is in the generation of people who remembers when the polio vaccine rolled out. He’s my mom’s age. She talks all the time about if there was a polio outbreak, the house with polio would be quarantined with a sign. And, how her mom just seemed relieved beyond measure when the polio vaccine was available. Smallpox is a nightmare with an insanely high kill rate. I think Spanish Flu killed 1/5 cases (20%) of everyone who got it, not the covid 1% who are mainly very sickly/old already.
The reason why I consider Owens to be just another Conservative Inc. grifter is stuff like this video. The graves of America are full of people who played Internet Doctor instead of going to an actual doctor. She has an audience to cater to, and like most Conservative Inc. grifters defines herself by her opposition to an unseen enemy: in this case old people who can’t read the internet? Seriously? Does she not realize that most people search the internet for confirmation, not information?
Anti-vaxxers have an opportunity to just say, plain and simple when asked, “It’s none of my business. It’s none of your business. You have medical freedom and I don’t care what your personal decision was.”
But noooo…we get this.
Bottom line: It is impossible for Trump to back down on the vaccines because the next Administration tried not only to steal his thunder but actually lied about what kind of shape the Trump Administration had left the distribution side. Trump is half bull dog and half barbed-wire fence. And he is not gonna’ let anybody take the “credit”. He cannot get past that, so get over it, noting that these same attributes (a/k/a obnoxious intransigence) are those of the precise personality-type which we needed to implement other very positive incentives such as border control and energy independence. We have to take the good with the bad. I don’t care where he stands on vaccines as long as he presents it as A CHOICE and not a mandate. I will accept that because I believe the good he did far outweighs the bad.
Agreed, emphatically. So much common sense here, which the one sided, linear thinkers simply cannot wrap their minds around.
Will he take the “ credit” for these toxic bioweapon injections when Nuremberg 2 trials begin for genocide? No, no he won’t.
Trump flat out lies when he said the vaccines are safe and that nobody is dying from them-and he lied saying it’s the unvaxxed that are being hospitalized and dying. When the data clearly currently shows it is not true. Leaders don’t lie like this- and Trump is finished politically I believe. I’d never vote for him again and I believe there are millions who feel as I do.
Goody for you. Maybe you should find an anti Trump site to play at. Because this site will continue to support President Trump.
Candance did herself and anyone who hears her words a great disservice when speaking of President Trump in such terms.
Old? Wow, throw all he old people over the cliff at one time because, you know, they’re old and can’t figure things out.
Doesn’t use the internet for his research? We have all known for many years now that you can find whatever answer you want for whatever question you have by any expert you deem appropriate while “researching” a topic on the internet.
Flat earth, no space flights, no man on the moon, President Kennedy is still alive, etc., etc., any one of those topics can be hot buttons and proved pro or con via your “research” on the internet.
“I specifically remember when President Trump told us from the White House podium that the media-driven hype over the COVID-19 “was a hoax,”” — sounds like the old man who can’t figure out how to use the internet figured that one out right away!
Love ‘ya, Sundance, but I can’t agree with you on this. (Note: I am a big DeSantis fan but did not support Cruz in 2016).
The issue with PDJT is that he refuses to acknowledge that these emergency use “vaccines” can have dangerous side effects and also seem to be rather ineffective. They were sold as being able to prevent the user from contracting the ‘rona in the first place but now are sold as “well, you won’t (maybe) get as sick as if you didn’t get vaxxed”. PDJT at least needs to acknowledge this problem.
Fact is, PDJT set the stage for what Big Pharma is now doing. No doubt, he was in a tough spot when the ‘rona nonsense came about, but as Truman said, the buck stops at the President’s desk.
All that said, I anticipate PDJT being the nominee in 2024 and will gladly vote and work to get him elected, but I won’t deny that DeSantis would be my preference.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FHVMBCWXMAYwt1e?format=jpg&name=medium
President Trump has to have his head buried in the sand not to know this…and if he’s this obtuse on this vital issue, how can we trust him on anything else.
THIS IS A LIFE AND DEATH ISSUE.
A sarcastic person could say that Candace is black and doesn’t know what she’s talking about.
A reasonable person would say that none of us are perfect and that we don’t have to agree with every single thing any celebrity or politician says in order to support them. I will die and go to hell before I will stop supporting PDJT over this silly issue. He made it perfectly clear that he is against vaccine mandates and that’s all anybody should need to hear. Nor will I stop supporting Candice Owens over this. They are both on our side when it comes to what’s really important and being anti government mandates for vaccines, masks, and lock downs is what’s really important. Without the mandates, they can’t hurt anybody who doesn’t want a Wuhan virus vaccine, and that’s that.
The scary part is what we’ve been seeing with fascist corporations denying employment to unvaccinated employees and discriminating in hiring practices as well as denying services and products to unvaccinated customers. No mandates needed, just a back door incentive to fire good employees and customers, something business historically eschews in the extreme.
Business, particularly fascist corporations, have become the tools of the tyrants, no government mandates needed. Compared to that, the historical American corporations who sold out to the Chicoms seem almost benevolent and those of us in industry have been watching that happen for most of my life, pushing close to seven decades now.
Human greed is a powerful thing.
I think this is another example of how the USA (and the entire world) would have been vastly in a better position to move forward had the “Consortium” had NOT Stolen the 2020 Election.
President Trump’s pointed his finger at us many time and said “You’re Smart, You Get It, You Are The Elite”.
That’s all I need to say about this.
Political virus used to cause fence setting to taste great, less filling, it’s about choice, not getting it in the arse. The thing that gets me is China has a role in this and no one is willing to challenge them, Trump was used as a pinball in a machine they bounced him all over, no fair play, Science this science that still making heads spin, Now divide us any way they can.
I have always understood President Trump’s approach towards the ‘vaccines’ and I have never cared how he talked about them.
He was asked to do something incredible…he did!
His administration and private business worked together to do something phenomenal.
President Trump is proud of that accomplishment and he promotes it. As he would any other joint achievement.
He’s not forcing it- meaning he’s not breaking the law or the Constitution…that’s what I care about.
I know the shot is poison. I don’t support President Trump for his medical opinion.
I can make my own decisions in that area.
Go to the most conservative websites you can find on this topic and view the comments. Brutal – this issue is rightly not going away (it is not only a National issue but a Western Civilization at stake issue) and the goodwill he has built up till now is being burned unwisely here IMO.
RLTW
“Go to the most conservative websites– this issue is rightly not going away ”
Will add this lead in to the list of “We got him this time” surrogates.
She hurt herself with these statements…..she had to prove she was right…..big mistake….this lowered her credibility considerable….I am disappointed in Candace
This statement,
“However, we are operating now with a hindsight that was not available before” does not tell the whole story:
Many had the foresight to realize the scam that was being played on the American people.
The whole picture involves the foresight and the hindsight. Many was savvy enough to avoid taking jabs made to change our RNA and made using aborted fetuses.
If President Trump ever says anything that could look like he has told people not to take the vaccines, the entire media, political, and medical establishment would make that the number one issue for months.
Every death with Covid would be his fault. Nothing else would lead the news.
His stand for free choice is correct and the only one I can see that can’t be used against him.
I want Donald Trump back in the White House. Even if he is aware of all the serious problems with the vaccines, he should keep his opinion to himself and fight for the freedom to choose.
If he is aware of problems and keeping it to himself, he’s not going to be back in the White House. At least not with honest votes.
Honestly…I couldn’t even finish reading..this..It is nothing that all of us don’t already know..but it doesn’t change the fact that government..big pharm..WHO..none of them care about..the people who are dying from a vaccine that wasn’t..tested properly and isn’t even a vaccine..Defending Trump is no one’s job but his..So stop..We want to know why..he is still saying it is ok..to take a jab that has shown to be not effective and in many cases..DEADLY..Yes deadly and who knows what the future may bring..If anyone had paid attention to the many experts who said we need to halt this vaccine..many lives could have been saved..To think that we have become a country that just says..Oh well…so people have to die..it is for the greater good and that is exactly what is being done..
Every day the evidence piles in thick and heavy that the risks of the COVID jabs far outweighs the benefits. The Pfizer trials were conducted fraudulently, according the the information they alone provided and substantiated by Pfizer whistleblowers.
Beginning with this canard, “Relative Risk” which was sold to the unwitting public as 95% efficacy. The past standards for evaluating efficacy never used “Relative Risk” as a metric. They always used “Absolute Risk” which for Pfizer’s trial amounted to something under 1%.
Pfizer punched out of the control group early because they had internal numbers indicating the vaccines were an epic and horrendous failure.
Pfizer pulled the rip cord on phase 3 early when they’re internal numbers were showing complete failure.
Moderna’s Emergency Use Protocol states that every other dose they produce is a placebo. It is possible this is the case for all of the jabs, more investigation is necessary. However, as I said, everyday we’re getting reports of young children, recently a 3 year old girl died of a heart attack within one day of getting the shot. 4 top soccer players died of heart attacks this past week alone. These are the healthiest men in the prime of their lives.
Children have a .0097 chance of dying from COVID. Now that kids are getting the jabs there are kids with heart attacks and dying everywhere. This is clearly not normal.. Clearly the risk is so far greater than any reward it’s just not even close.
Trump has to know this. he isn’t stupid. His continued push for this vaccine reeks of childish stubbornness. Or of capitulated to a higher power. Either way there is no rational justification for this behavior.
If Trump gets re-elected China will release another virus that is much worse.
Sorry…but this..virus was created and they have been working on it long before Trump ever came on the scene..They want ..America at any costs..
You mean the USA Dr FOW U CHEE. Will give them another Bat he banged.
I ask when is Trump going to address/apologize to all those thousands of people and their families who have died, been permanently disabled or injured by the rushed experimental gene therapies, referred to wrongly as vaccines. If he is totally clueless as to the damage caused, he is old, internet dumb or just doesn’t give a sh*t!! Sundance, that is the question no one seems to want to ask, including yourself. Trump should sit out in 2024 and let DeSantis have a shot.
I am joining the discussion late but I must say Trump’s current stand on these gene therapies(vaccines) is one of the stupidest positions he has presented in the last 5 years . To say these ridiculous gene therapies are one of mankinds greatest achievements is insane. His comments suggest that the gene therapy is perfectly safe now for children age 5 to 12 . Most authorities we can trust( Dr Malone, McColough, Mercola,Zalenko, Simone Gold, etc , etc) say giving this gene therapy to children is not only unnecessary but extremely dangerous.
I am quite disgusted with Pres Trump for coming out so supportive of vaccines in general. His comments could lead to many more deaths and injuries to both young and old people worldwide-all from gene therapy adverse reactions. I am a humble Chiropractic doctor but I have spend hundreds of hours studying this Covid issue over the last nearly 2 years and the trusted experts strongly agree that this current group of gene therapies are of little value and most likely will cause far more harm than good.
Trump should admit he was misled by the experts and now encourage extreme caution going forward with any further boosters or gene jabs. I believe this is speaking the truth and also would be good politics. In short I think Candace Owens was very close to t he truth about Trump-he does appear to be poorly informed in Covid issue!!
President TRump said children should NOT get the vaccine. He also said NO to the boosters. And he did listen to Dr. Malone and you should too. On one of his videos, Malone said the vaccines were SAFE AND EFFECTIVE.
Peace, I have never heard Trump say no to vaccines for children or no to boosters! Give me a link t o this. He has said vaccines are greatest medical advancement in history-with no restrictions as to who gets them from what he said.
And Dr. Malone currently has profound concerns about vaccines and says never should children recieve them. He recently said he perceives a sinister evil force pushing mandatory vaccines for all. He is no fan of vaccines. You are looking at old Malone clipps my friend.
Keep up now, videos from 2 yrs ago are not what we are talking about. C Mon Man.
Agree!!!
My other problem with Trump touting his big win for the vaccine is essentially taking credit for close to a million deaths, disabilities and severe injuries of U.S. citizens. Not something I would do if I even thought about running again.
Correct Hittman. He is getting bad advice once again. He needs to get back in touch with Scott Atlas from Stanford Univ to get the Covid facts!!
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“Yet another independent study confirms over 150K Americans killed by the COVID vaccines”
https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/yet-another-independent-study-confirms
President Trump also said many times that children would not need the vaccine because data showed it was mild or non existent in them . But Obiden thought differently and has now caused irreparable harm to some children.