Interesting choice of media outlets for his final nail delivery. Senator Joe Manchin (D-WV) appears on Fox News to confirm the Build Back Better negotiations are done, and he’s done, and the $4.5 trillion legislation is dead. During the expanded explanation by Senator Manchin, he points to two primary issues with the bill.
First, it is a massive takeover of the U.S. economy, and the basic outline of the bill details never changed. The ‘negotiations‘ that were taking place amounted to the White House putting an ever shorter end date on the legislation. The Senate was giving the appearance of a lower cost by shifting the sunset clause; however, from beginning to end the scope of the legislation never changed.
Second, the issue of inflation has been created by Joe Biden policy. Regulations, energy policy, monetary policy, reckless fiscal policy and massive spending have led to massive inflation. Manchin explains how inflation is not sustainable for his constituents in West Virginia.
In my opinion, Manchin is positioning himself for a Democrat presidential race.
It is not coincidental that Manchin makes this statement today, on Fox News, as polling shows massive drops in support for Joe Biden. Manchin knows he is sitting in a spotlight of an inflection point. Manchin is politically astute and cunning to the ways of politics. Manchin comes across as meek and mild-tempered, a man of reasonable disposition… but that doesn’t accurately portray his cunning. This is his chance to make a big move.
Senator Joe Manchin also knows that Democrats are going to implode, as the Obama allied communist puppet masters behind Biden have a one term agenda to exploit their control over the dementia patient currently occupying the White House. Manchin knows the collapse of the Democrat Party is his opportunity. He also knows THE REALITY behind the released Marist Poll [data here] showing a majority of non-communist Democrats want nothing to do with the senile occupant of the White House.
Manchin is again making a BIG club move by positioning himself as reasonable right now.
Manchin is testing his strength.
Manchin will likely be the #1 contender in 2024, and he knows it.
Manchin is cunning.
Manchin is not only reaching out to ‘moderate’ registered Democrats….
Manchin is reaching the minds of registered Republicans.
Manchin is a very worthy adversary…
I was just thinking this same thing. But how in the hell is the big club going to get this man through the democratic primaries?
That’s my question too.
There have to be many hard core dem voters who have seen the errors of the far left ways and want nothing to do with Obama’s 4th term.
In the end, they’ll make sure Manchin is the “one”. They really will have no choice, as there really is no other demoncrat in Congress or a Governors office that is really going to be palatable to their base, let alone independents and the RINO base.
Most of those in Congress have pretty much burned their bridges with their voters and what blue state governor is going to be able to prove they aren’t a tyrant at this point?
And Manchin knows it.
How could Manchin be palatable to their lunatic base? Those people think that anybody to the right of Stalin is a right wing radical.
He’s a democrat, they’ll vote for him after the lunatic fringe candidates get flushed.
They flushed Bernie twice as he would have flamed out big time and he’s willing to grift out his base for a new mansion.
I’ll believe it when I see it. I can understand some squishy registered Democrats and Independents supporting him but not the the woke DNC base. Those idiots think the BBB bill is heaven on earth.
That’s the big point!
Manchin may or may not run for POTUS in 24. But in the event he does, we shouldn’t forget that the man nobody gave a chance to (Biden), was suddenly ushered in as the overwhelming favorite by virtue of Rep. Clyburn’s snapping fingers (talk about Party discipline!).
Election 2024 could also go the same way. Of course, nobody is giving Kamala a chance at this point to be the nominee, but don’t forget about the snapping fingers.
Joe is addled, of course; Kamala is incompetent, of course. But who cares when you have fingers that snap so well, or people (voters) who listen so carefully, and then act on it so faithfully?? ABSOLUTELY NOBODY!
Yeah, but Biden has been a massive failure in just about everybody’s eyes, so why would that work in 2024? Even the woke are not that stupid. That DNC base will attack Manchin mercilessly if he tries to run as a centrist. And given the fact that he is a white man from West Virginia won’t help him one little bit.
Who is counting the votes?
Dominion
There’s not much doubt that Manchin is running for President; his “No” on BBB is the climax of his campaign for the nomination so far; even ill-informed voters on the Right will view him as a reasonable person/commiecrat; the left has no other viable candidate compared to Manchin. That, coupled with the insane TDS will make him a formidable candidate.
He has the NeverTrumper vote locked down.
O.k. so he has locked up.01 percent of the vote, with that.
No, he is going for a bigger constituency than just hard neverTrump, he is going for R and old fashioned D voters that were suckered in by Joes portrayal of himself as “Uncle Joe”: moderate in both policy and disposition, a “nice, reasonable” guy, who can bring the country together and heal the wounds.
Hopefully, a lot of voters, in 2024 will be singing “and I won’t be FOOLED, AGAIIIIN!”
I agree with Sundance that Manchin is and would be formidable, but the party is controlled by the AOC crowd and they aren’t having any of Manchin’s “moderation”.
Paraphrasing (with apologies to Barry Goldwater)….“Extremism in the pursuit of Social Justice is no vice; and moderation in the pursuit of Equity is no virtue.”
Aoc crowd are puppets of Dr Evil George Soros. Justice Democrats have a large contingent of non-Heritage Americans working at the direction of Dr Evil George Soros.
Possibly…and then if they lose out and Manchin actually becomes the nominee..they might stat home. It would be preferable if they were to vote third party, cause if they stay home, Dominion would just take their votes!!!
I am afraid you might be right.
AndrewJackson: “I was just thinking this same thing. But how in the hell is the big club going to get this man through the democratic primaries?”
Steal those primaries, that’s how. Just pay the managers inside the Democrat’s vote theft cadre more money than the anti-Manchin forces will pay them.
Maybe they figure we won’t be watching at the polls…I know I will be.
Joe didn’t win his primary.
Joe didn’t win The 2020 Presidential election,
Remember the Iowa caucus phone app “issues”, then a big delay, and presto Bernie was turbo reversed.
Hillary wants a third bite of the apple. Manchin may want to put himself on suicide watch.
I laughed. Good one!
<Hillary wants a third bite of the apple.>
Only natural for someone who’s rotten to the core 🙂
NICE 😉
Hillary is last week’s political leftovers. Everything I’ve read is that Big Mike is the one who will replace Joe AND Heels Up!
Doesn’t matter. The Big Club is in charge. That’s the lesson. The point of SD and CTH legacy is that if it wanted to the Big Club could end mandates, stop hurting Americans but they don’t care. They want the pocket lining democracy and the only reason they are helping the little guy through this WV senator is because BBB destroys the Republic that lines their pocket. It’s not for us it’s for them
They get fat with BBB, though. They’d keep it if they could, but Trump will f**k them the instant he can, and they know it. They’re planning accordingly, as our host so astutely spotted out. They MUST kill Trump.
MAGA, baby.
Now we make Manchin turn on the election thieves. We pivot and force this guy to do our bidding. He’ll have to, or they’ll steal the primary from him.
Remember that they have to have American income to continue to finance their globalist dreams of us paying a buck for a lemon while Mexicans pay a nickel, or $500 for an Epipen that Hondurans pay $5 for.
They must have their exfiltration. With BBB, there would be no wealth to finance all their businesses in poor countries.
What do you mean? The party decides who gets the nomination. They play around with primary voting, but it really has no impact on the results. They never even figured out who won in Iowa in the last primary, and it doesn’t matter anyway. There are always enough Superdelegates to override anything else. This is their blueprint for “our democracy”.
…with Republican help, of course.
Dead voters!
Manchin could take RINOs and never Trumpers. Can he beat Trump? I pray not.
This is a good move by Manchin but please remember in the end total voting records count. At Conservative Review Manchin’s Liberty Score is a lowly 16%.
Plus 2024 is soooo far away. So many things can happen before then. Can anyone honestly say what this country will look like in 1,2;or 3 years. I do predict than student debt will be eliminated sometime in the summer of 2022. Nice bribe for the young to vote d in 22.
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If the mid term shift is from Uniparty-D, to Uniparty-R majorities, as Sundance says, the Flag over the Capitol changes, but nothing underneath does.
The Red Wave is already being manipulated, and factored in, same old whine, in a brand new bottle.
They are even setting up for personelle changes; realising too many of US have caught on to, and are enraged at McConnell, he will retire, and Thune will move up.
The power structure WILL NOT change, it will be changing the curtains, on the outhouse window. Changes the appearance, but it still smells like Crap.
Congress controls the Federal purse, and has been expropriating $ and UnConstitutional power AWAY from the States and the People, for a LONG time.
The route long touted by fiscal Conservatives, of cutting off the $, obviously doesn’t and can’t work.
The only path working within the process left, is to take back the power (authority and responsibility) wrongly accrued to the Federal govt, due to years of State governments passively relinquishment and citisens aquiesing.
We need State governments to understand that ONE of their most important roles is to aggresively defend their and OUR power, against Federal encroachment and overreach.
Yet if the student debt is eliminated, there is no incentive for them to vote at all.
Sadly, Manchin is probably the most logical Dim at this point for a 2024 presidential run. He’s still a Vax commie and only sounds reasonable on other issues because the AOCs that have taken over his party have driven away everyone else with a 10th of a functional brain. Would have preferred he talked about the trillions going to leftist causes that he says he even considered in the communist bill rather than talking about the time frames in the bill which ultimately mean forever.
All it takes is one or two RINO Senators to “cross-over” and Biden’s bill will pass.
Murkowski will do it out of spite. It ain’t over til it is over.
I will never forget McInsane doing his thumb’s down. I hope he is burning in hell.
Bullshirt, respectfully.
The “squishes” (Murkowski, Collins, Romney, McStain, Flake etc.) are and always have been jokers McConnell kept up his sleeve, to be played when he didn’t like the hand he was dealt.
Make no mistake, I wanted McStain buried in Az, so I could personally “pay my respects” and leave a little something on his grave, to express, succintlctly, my feelings for him.
Never the less, that thumbs down was by PROXIE; had he been too ill from Cancer to throw the thumb, McConnell had Flake warming up in the bullpen.
That whole R&R Obummercare was kabuki theater, and was NEVER going to pass, with McConnell at the helm.
When political perception demands the “Repubicans” in Congress be SEEN to be voting FOR legislation,, they don’t actually want to pass, it passes House, goes to Senate, and McConnell directs the vote, calling on one or the other of the squishes to kill the bill.
Its his ‘escape clause”.
Not in this case, since the filibuster does not apply. Democrats don’t need any Republican votes in the US Senate.
To explain…
19 RINO Republican Senators (including Mitch McConnell) voted for the Democrats’ $1.2 trillion “infrastructure” bill on 10 Aug 2021.
In the House, 32 RINO Republicans voted for it on 5 Nov 2021. (Brandon signed it on 15 Nov 2021.)
These RINO Republicans enabled Democrats to pass their $1.2 trillion “infrastructure” bill.
In doing so, these RINO Republicans made the passage of Brandon’s separate and horrendous “Build Back Broke” bill automatic.
Republican passage of the “infrastructure” bill eliminated the US Senate filibuster for Brandon’s $5 trillion BBB monstrosity. If all 50 Democrat Senators vote for the BBB boondoggle, then, with Kamala Harris’ tie-breaking vote, it won’t matter if all 50 Republican senators oppose it.
This is why Manchin’s opposition to Brandon’s bill so crucial
A wolf in sheepskin.
Manchin is a lightweight and President Trump will dispatch him handily. PDJT knows what Joe Coal Tailings Manchin is all about. Hes not MAGA.Hes not pro America. Hes not closed borders. Hes not main street. He’s scared because his constituents have been tugging at his testicle hair- hard. If it comes down to President Trump and Born Again Virgin Joe Manchin,Deplorables know what train to climb aboard. Its not the Manchin Jerk Off Express.
We thought a glib Democrat governor from Arkansas was a lightweight also…
He was a lightweight fraud and still is, along with his criminal wife. But in ‘92 he was up against a mealy-mouthed squish GOP RINO who’d just backstabbed President Reagan and his voters (“voodoo economics”, “kinder and gentler America”, and “read my lips, no new taxes”). And then the little hand grenade with a bad haircut jumped in (“giant sucking sound”) and pulled 19% of the vote…mostly away from the GOP RINO.
Mike, I like your thoughts; however, I think you could make a stronger impact by cleaning up some of your language.
Pompeo with all of his pious tweeting is positioning himself as well , so is Tulsi Gabbard. The strategy is going to be portray yourself as a moderate, bipartisan blue dog Democrat. Fake as F. All of them.
Indeed. That was what Joe was selling in ’20…he’s a moderate! 😂😒
Man I wish he would change parties. Dems heads would explode!
It would be fun.
They are all the same party anyways.
Exactly. Those expressing the desire for him to change parties, still don’t get it, how the Uniparty works.
It ain’t gonna happen, cause Uniparty don’t WANT it to happen.
We will see the Republicans put forth a sacrificial neverTrumper, like Liz or Haley.
They will put forth some FAKE MAGA candidates, to split the MAGA vote, and they will put forth a R version of Manchin, sounding “Reasonable” and touting bi-partisanship” and “working across the aisle”.
Its ALL BULLSHIRT.
Like “their” running Bush clown, Dole in 96, Bush clown, Mcqaeda in 2008, rino Romney in 2012, and than PDJT destroys their plans in 2016 and surrmounts their cheat attempt.
Might be the move that causes ol’ Slo Joe to stroke out.
NO! Let the Dems clean up their own party. We don’t need any more messes in the GOP.
Like we don’t have enough RINOs already??
With RINO Senators like Romney and Murkowski, is the BBB bill really dead?
That’s a good question. And with a feckless incompetant Minority Leader like Mitch McConnell running the Republican show in the Senate, you have to ask the same question even harder.
McConnell isn’t incompetent. He is thoroughly a globalist owned by China
Again, “squishes” are just proxies for McConnell.
Question really is ;”Does McConnell want BBB to be passed, and is he willing to use his proxies to get it passed?
I don’t THINK so. He knows at some level, that he has exposed himself and the Uniparty, to the base, far more than is politically healthy, due to his consistent action to undermine “Trump”.
He’s called “the Turtle” for a reason; when he pulls into his shell, its very difficuly to attack him.
I THINK he does NOT instruct one of the squishes to vote for BBB.
Its just too blatant. Thats my guess.
Yes. Momentum shifted. They are going to push another shutdown, collapse the economy, and then save us with the “real” build back better plan.
They will push hard as the people are waking up too fast.
Turtle will keep them in-line.
Which one of the “retiring” RINO’s would like a big fat pay off to see them through their golden years?
It won’t stop them, the Democrats will keep on plowing through in any way they can. Some other shoe will drop. They know their time is limited. It is unfortunate both parties don’t understand they could keep their power if they would do what they people wanted instead of following their own greed. They could have it all, but no, damn to the people.
Anyway, I am glad Manchin is busting the bill regardless of his reasons. Whether it has been a deceptive farce from the get go, or real, the Democrats have put lots of man hours in this thing and it makes me happy to see their efforts fail.
Whatever happened w/Senna(sp) the AZ Senator and her vote on this monster?
Kirsten Synema, D Senator from Az, who has also come out against eliminating the fillibuster, is a wildcard.
More focus, by far on Manchin, only time KS made headlines, is when she was in the toilet, lol..
I don’t RECALL her saying she would change her vote on BBB to yes, but again almost all focus has been on MANCHIN.
I know more than a few Republicans in AZ that are fooled by Sinema. She votes with the Dems always.
Krysten Sinema’s Red Line (or so she says) is nuking the Filibuster. Although, she’s not too hip on the BBB atrocity, I suspect Manchin told her to, “hold my beer, I got this“, on Xiden’s BBB.
This is excellent analysis.
Manchin is simultaneously saving the democrat party and, in the eyes of republicans, saving the country.
In the current polarized environment moderate fence sitting may not sell well. Citizens are coming to realize its the reason for much of our current ills….
Manchin is playing mostly to Democrat-leaning independents who might be convinced there is an alternative to Donald Trump in 2024. That said, his hopes for being elected president in 2024 still depend on vote fraud to put him over the top.
And if Manchin doesn’t bow low enough to the clown cabal running the ‘rat club, fraud may not be proffered as generously as it was with Bribem.
Just a heads up Manchin didn’t kill himself.
Kill Manchin won’t solve the problem for Dems. Rep Governor just nominate a Republican to Senate to replace Manchin. No Dem will win West Virginia for Senate.
Killing a pedo multi-millionaire is one thing (especially since he was in prison already), but killing a sitting US Senator is a bridge too far…..oh, wait, didn’t a couple Kennedy’s bite the bullet, so to speak?
Never mind…..
Make sure it is repeated over and over, he is pro mandate for government workers and is pushing the covid fear porn.
He is slick
donks won’t nominate a white male in 2024.
So far the woman of color is a disaster!
Michelle Obama and Stacey Abrams are warming up in the bullpen.
As long as that white male speaks favorably of abortion and unfavorably of PDJT, the white male will be fine.
But would he go for $1.5 trillion BBB…? I hope he stays healthy.
Manchin is safe from a freak leafblower accident. That’s why he is able to do this in the first place. If something happens to him, Democrats will still be one vote short. Manchin would need to be replaced by a Schumer Democrat, and Jim Justice, the MAGA governor of West Virginia, ain’t gonna do that.
Manchin is positioning himself for a bigger payoff from the multinationals that run the government. They need this legislation.
This is what I think as well. The only reason he was reelected, in my opinion, was his vote for Kavanagh. He was behind up until that vote. Manchin was very good during the trapped miners incident and people likely to support him here remember that Manchin. He voted for Impeachment twice. His staff knew how corrupt Biden was in Ukraine, I called his office, and yet he voted for the sham Impeachment. This guy, in my opinion, does what is needed for Manchin.
Brokeback is more like it.
Build Back Biden
And a good question to ask is just who or what is Manchin beholden to?
4.5 trillion..pfft. In the New Emancipatory Math all numbers are equal. 4.5 trillion is the same as zero. That’s how pretend president asterisk figures it. Manchin is marketable and the Party of Death has already scraped the bottom of the swamp. Who else do they have? They could always recycle Buttplug or Francis “betaboy” O’ Rourke I suppose. Or they might find a way to clone Hilary; she’s showing all of her 3000 years lately That being said 2024 might as well be an eternity away considering the pace at which the Powers are rolling. They really think this is their time and they are swinging for the fences. Surviving the winter may be seen as an accomplishment. So the 2024 selection is a coin toss, which is to say whether or not it actually takes place
He also supports vx requirements for the military and federal civilians. That comes out near the end of the interview. Not that I would vote for this toad anyway, but people need to know that.
I wonder if there are few other Dem Senators who silently oppose this dementia bill…? Manchin should stay off his boat for the foreseeable future.
Don’t worry, RINO to the rescue. I am looking at you Romney and Murkowski….
Once thing Sundace doesn’t mention is Bret Baier’s reaction to Manchin’s position. Baier seems incredulous that Manchin is going to let this bill die. Really quite interesting to see someone from Fox almost advocate for the bill and emphasize the (disastrous!) consequences of Manchin’s decision…
Brett “17 sandwiches in one sitting” Baier is an anti American slob.
They will just rename it Build Back Bigger and Better and double the cost and it will pass unopposed in both houses.
Hum…he represents a coal state. Would the “climate change” activists and wall street support him? There’s big money to be made in alternative energy.
What if Schumer, McConnell, McCarthy, and Pelosi planned this over a year ago. The Squad refuses to cooperate unless they get their way so Pelosi is teaching them a lesson in greed. This will lower the squad’s standing among Democrats.
He’s dead wrong about covid. It’s not covid that’s the problem. How Western governments are handling covid is the problem. Hell, I want to get Omicron. You get it, recover, and you have more natural immunity for the next time you’re exposed to any form of covid, right? I would much rather do that than to get another damn shot.
After the White House press release attacking him personally and his decision, I would hope he pulls a “Jumpin” Jim Jeffords and becomes a Republican or an Independent caucusing with the Republicans, thus changing control of the Senate to the Republicans. West VA is a MAGA Trump state and it would guarantee him reelection to the Senate in 2024. After Biden, Manchin’s too old to run for President at 78 years old in 2025.
Upon the stroke of midnight during the GA runoff I said ‘and so Manchin has become the most powerful man in the world.”
McConnell’s greatest personal agenda is to operate in favor of the Big Club. With Manchin action today he can claim his terms as a minority leader dismantled the Tea Party, the Squad plus Bernie and any MAGA ability to exercise a single agenda item that is not in favor of the big club.
Ask Don Surber about Epi Joe. He hasn’t a chance in his own state.
But, it’s all about money and campaigns make a ton of it, regardless of the outcome.
Just check your trash folder for all the beg mail you get from the grifters comprising the GOPe.
I don’t understand why the Demoncrats don’t just ‘deem’ Manchin to have voted ‘yes’, and proceed with the bill?
If they could they would.
An amazing man, he’s done more for this country than B*tch McConnell
Eh, did you hear the covid part though? He seems to have no problem with the idiotic government overreaction to omicron. That alone, will turn millions of Americans away from him.
Whatever his merits or faults, either this Manchin doesn’t have any worthwhile blackmailable offenses in his past, or he has even worse goods on his party’s leaders held in reserve for self preservation.
He’s a white man from West Virginia who just killed the DNC’s dream redistribute the wealth/amnesty/green new deal bill. It won’t be hard at all for the woke DNC base to attack him.
Not slick enough, by half to get MY vote, but I can see how many “squishes” Republucan voters would fall for his Con.
He touts “bi-partisanship” and “working across the aisle” to appeal to those voters, regardless of registration, who were drawn in by the “mean tweets” criticism of PDJT.
Those who are clueless as to the true nature of the Conmunist/Globalist takeover of our country, equally clueless of the Uniparty, and long for (their perception) of a long ago time when they believe, erroneously that Congress was working in a bi-partisan way, for the good of the country.
I will no longer vote for any Uniparty candidate, doesn’t matter what letter they have, after their name.
Clear, unequivocal America First candidates are the ONLY candidates I will vote for.
Unfortunately, I am not confident ENOUGH voters will make and hold to that pledge.
Manchin sounds to me a lot like Uniparty-R politician, SAYING things that SOUND “nice”, without specifics.
For instance, his riff on election integrity, said it “SHOULD be bi-partisan” etc. but didn’t say WHAT he supports; does he support Voter I.D., or motor voter registration?
Universal vote by mail, or restrictions on vote by mail?
Would like to hear from “the other no, on BBB” Synema.
Is she running to be Manchins VP, or what?
It is my hope and prayer that Senator Joe Manchin stays right where he is –
please don’t leave that to run for President in 2024 so that some clown Democrat OR Republican can take that seat in the Senate –
that’s my hope and prayer, along with praying for blessings for continued strength and resistance to the predations of not only those who would and will gladly destroy him but our nation.
The voting public tend to get really conservative their jobs are in jeopardy and their buying power decreased, Manchin wants to keep his job. When it comes to Rino’s follow the money.
We should be able to assume that Governor (ha) Stacey Abrams is having a bad day. Manchin has made himself an obstacle on her way to the White House.
Our host is very astute. Manchin may be the only hope the Uniparty has against Trump. In an honest election, Trump destroys all primary opposition and any stooge that shows up in the general. Manchin gives them a minor chance, but they’ll still have to steal it again, I believe.
These monsters are capable of anything. I’d bet McConnell is in on this somehow, too. He’d cut a deal with Satan if he could.
I don’t see how Manchin could ever, ever win a presidential primary in the Democrat party.
If he ever did though, I agree he would be solid competition in the general election.
Sundance: Manchin and McConnell have been spending a lot of time together lately. Is it possible that they worked out some plan where McConnell would do the ugly (incur the wrath of his party) to get the debt ceiling raised while Manchin would do the ugly (incur the wrath of his party) to stop BBB? My understanding was that everyone wanted McConnell to use the debt ceiling as leverage to gut or stop BBB, but if he had Manchin to stop BBB, he didn’t need to use the debt ceiling as leverage. This arrangement with Manchin would allow McConnell to do some back-channel-trading wherein he exchanged clearing the way for the debt ceiling being raised for some choice personal goodies. Perhaps he got something for Manchin too. Just spitballing here.
You’re dead on. McConnell is the head-mf’er-in-charge, when it comes to the Uniparty. I see his evil, oily hand in this somewhere.
Compared to the far left Democrat lunatics who have gone so far left their not even on the map anymore Manchin looks like a very moderate, reasonable middle of the road Blue Dog Democrat who could appeal to both sides AND Independents. Even my Democrat mom in Central Missouri along with many relatives and friends of hers who are old school moderate Democrats can’t stand the Progressive commies who’ve taken over the party and this is the huge base the Dem party has forsaken and forgotten. She would vote for Manchin over the likes of Kamala anyday. Whether he would govern as a moderate remains to be seen.
Manchin is for Manchin, not for America.
I think Manchin is smart enough to know that the people who run the demonrat party would never allow him to become their Presidential nominee.
My take is that he wants to be Governor of WV again. Standing up to FJB certainly helps with that endeavor.
Who are the people behind Manchin? 🤔
He is not a single man, making a stand.
Manchin may very well be “The One’ to bring the Dems a bit back to center and shit-can the Squad leftist members.
The climate assholes will cream Manchin with this: he has a long history with coal in West Virginia, and served as President of Enersystems, a privately-held coal & resource company, in the 1990s. He’s still currently a key principal, holding an estimated $3,000,000 in non-public stock.
Coal is only “dirty” when the “west” uses it. When the democrats favorite totalitarians and fellow travelers Liberal China uses coal it magically becomes “Clean”
Circus, they pick and choose heroes and villains according to the result they need and then rotate those heroes and villains around at the right time.
It’s always been this way. It’s a circus performance. Clown show.
Ds are in a hard place, they appeased and used the radicals to oust Trump and went full far left with BLM and Antifa. Great… so now the the far left want their payment for helping Ds. They were promised far left policies. But there’s election coming and they have to appease to the “moderates” as well.
Well, Ds can’t just move to the “moderate left” side because BLM and radical were promised the moon and the stars and they earned it… They burned down cites for it.
So the swamp rolls out Manchin to be the cause for Ds not pass the racial dream Green New Deal (economy killer, donor class killer)
So now Ds can say they tried, but couldn’t. It’s their version of RINO except their RINO is really a moderate lefty globalist appeasing the donors class.
BLM/Antifa is their Tea Party ( they use them but don’t care about them)
Manchin and the Uniparty are slaves to their big donors. (All left) That’s who maters. Donors class matter.
This.
I smell a Uniparty setup here.
It could backfire on the Uniparty though. They’ve unleashed terrible forces in these violent extremists. They won’t just stand down if they get screwed.
Trump has the hearts of blue collar workers and the dems are so far left that they basically support immigrants and global government. Manchin could even be playing along with the dems here to be the hero that defeats the unpopular spending bill, the man of principle etc. All this, in order to deceive the public, yet again.
Manchin, like all politicians, is gearing up to win the last election.
By 2024 everyone who matters will have an “IDGAF” attitude and will be saying all the banned words and talking about all the banned ideas. There might even be displays of some banned flags. Who can say?
Somehow I still do not believe Joe Manchin will forsake JoeBama.
There is this interesting thing called legacy, as in the for the correct level of legacy Manchin can be bought.
Joe Manchin’s replaced one of the ultimate Congressional Pork Masters, Senator Robert C. Byrd. Look at the wiki site for ALL the 100’s of sites named after Senator Byrd. Joe wants or rather needs a legacy.
If Sundance’s instincts are right here and I believe he’s “dead on” here, Manchin will follow his own perceived interests here and will follow through on them so long as his personal interests tell him to. Manchin is Democrats’ version of McCain, very interesting.
Yep, and a legacy and pork fits Joe Manchin’s desires nicely. Selling out still occurs when his itch of desires and interests are met. So where have i deviated from Sundance’s commentary?? He has proven himself more than savvy enough to sell-out and emerge with his base intact over his entire tenure in congress.
He learned at the elbow of one of the best self serving slugs, Robert Byrd..
Joe manchin won’t be screwed like joe sestak.
Some folks remember how the joebama folks treat their “friends” after they get what they want.
Exactly.
I would hardly call Joe Sestak a “friend of JoeBama’s”, he endorsed Hillary Clinton and is a Clintonista.
On the Fox panel this morning were the two most important points in this regard:
1)in 2020
Biden 29%
Trump 50%
2) 20% of employment in WVa is Mining Coal.
Manchin may not be looking at the Presidency, but just guarding his rear.
I don’t think JoeBama even enters the equation
Depends who is controlling him and if he is deep into blackmail. It is impossible to think of any Politicians now who can actually vote freely.
Manchin hasn’t really done anything for WV. No new roads, agencies, buildings etc. Byrd brought the pork back to WV. Did you know there’s a Coast Guard headquarters in WV? Thanks to Byrd there is.
Hard to say, if Manchin votes yes his political career is over in 2022 considering his State. What is more important to him, the job or his curreent legacy? As he will have no more things to add to that legacy.
Just can’t admit we were wrong about Manchin can we? It’s bidirectional Folks! He caves like all the nay saying Eeyore’s here contends and we go broke. Welcome to fundamentally changed WORLD. He holds firm and Bastard Broke Biden goes down in flames! Well he stayed the course and you still can’t cut him a break!
I say Thank God for West Virginia and their Senator The Honorable Mr. Joe Manchin. Or as my West Virginia born and raised Granddaddy used to say, “Don’t mess with a Hill Billy!” He didn’t say “mess” but I may be close to moderation as it is!