Not sure how many quit or left the job market because of the Waxine or mandatory mask requirements, but no doubt if I was not retired I would be fired from any job that required either.

I’m old enough to remember the first Obama recession. Anybody else remember “fun-employment insurance”? Remember how excited Nancy P was that young people could finally quit work and learn to paint or play the guitar? Good times!

If you want to a close-up view employment reality in America, go to any McDonalds in the country on any given day and guess the average age of the few employees that actually showed up for work that day. In my neck of the woods, on most days I’d guess 50+. I am also old enough to remember when that number would have been closer to 20?? If after all this time America’s teenagers are still locking themselves in their parents basements playing video games instead of figuring out just how they are going to make enough money to pay for their date on Friday night we are in for a world of hurt as a country. Doesn’t matter if it’s fear or apathy, they are conditioning themselves for a lifetime of dependency. Millions more suffering from self-inflicted serfdom.

Sad

Another thing, the quit rate up and every fast food and service type business has “immediately hiring” type signs up (here in north Alabama). We got rid of the extended unemployment and it didn’t put a dent the shortages.

I’d like to know how many people are starting freelancing, doing what they did for their employer but direct for businesses without the middle man.

As I posted on the previous page, I think we’re at an inflection point with the transition to a digital economy where more people can, and will, go on their own working directly with their contacts to provide services like web design, blog/social media writings, graphic design, phot editing, writing software, etc.

I am retired with a substantial income and a huge investment account built up over the last 35 years. It’s easy for people in my position to resist this insanity if they so wish. I don’t care if they deny me air travel! I’ll do other things to get around that issue. It’s the younger working class people with no alternative who are truly compromised. Millions must work to feed their families. One of the most effective things that will stop this totalitarian government is the type of work stoppages were seeing at South West Airlines. Bringing a halt to commercial air traffic will have definite and immediate results. Another thing that will help is massive medical personnel walk outs and resistance from the medical community. Unfortunately, many in that field have already been corrupted by the politics surrounding this mania. There has to be many more labor walk outs in all areas of the economy. When production slowdowns occur that impact products, services, and shortages of goods people will start to react. Back in the 60s when Communism ruled Eastern Europe this is exactly what occurred. And when it became bad enough the people rose up and got rid of the despotic Soviet Communist rule.

NE Ohio checking in here.

Last year, I earned more money than at any time in my occupation. Covid bonuses were generous and frequent, overtime was mandatory.

Entertainment venues were closed. Meals were taken at home and retiring to bed early was necessary to prepare for the next day’s rigors.

What was it Ben Franklin said? Early to bed, early to rise makes a man healthy, wealthy and wise?

Long hours+no costly entertainment= healthy bank accounts. This year, I had six months of income tucked away in the bank. I could have taken a leave of absence to relax and recover. Instead, I used the money to help finance an admittedly overpriced house.

Someone else in my position but with no children may well have taken the savings and gone on a long vacation. I imagine the younger demographic is opting for more leisure time because their financial situation is solid and they have no one but themselves to support.

Masks.

How many people have had enough of wearing them and are unwilling to wear one in order to work unless absolutely necessary.

I’m one.

The oncoming threat of vax mandate has had people quitting and moving/ remote working. This is a regular theme on the Gab group helping people find non vax jobs. This predates bidens “vax hoax.”

Being clueless is Jennifer Psaki’s normal state. Witness the Pravda presentations she holds, aka press briefings.

I was one of them. August 31 was my last day on the job and I had just gotten a decent raise too.

I was tired of the masks and the vaccine crap – just cashed out my minimal retirement funds, took the tax hit, and am laying low trying to become self-employed again. I have a book coming out and am writing another, and I’m liquidating all my acquired stuff (some of which has a little value so it’ll help me soldier on.) I’m not taking any unemployment or benefits because it’s not my way.

My wife filed for divorce a few months ago and it has just been finalized – didn’t contest anything, split the debt, and am moving on. The divorce has been coming for years so it’s not really a surprise. I was considered a great guy until she got her own job, then I magically became the worst of the worst. Apparently, that’s the modern way to deal with men who won’t bend the knee because they thought marriage was a partnership and believe themselves to be actual humans rather than dutiful cardboard cut-outs worthy of routine criticism.

Good times…

I’m looking to move near my daughter and her fiancé next year once I downsize, then build a tiny house on a small piece of land.

I’m basically minimizing my connection to The System in whatever ways I can. I’ve got better things to do.

I’m wondering who falls into the “Quits” category? I’m assuming it would include people who just don’t show up one day? Here’s a theory perhaps worth contemplating: are some percentage of the “Quits” actually dead? I say this after reading a thought-provoking post at the Market Ticker the other day:
https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=243839

I worked at a corporate (“employee owned”) grocery store and the primary thing that bothered me is that the administration seemed to revel in changes brought about by Covid. Our profits went up and we went from being open 24 hours a day to 18 hours – costs went down and profits went up.

Throughout Covid hiring went from a reasonable amount of FT and PT employees but they cut several long-time FT employees and began hiring only PT workers. This meant we had to constantly train people who we knew wouldn’t be there for long and didn’t really care about the work.

Yet, despite the stress corporate decisions were causing for employees, the admin were overjoyed by the profits and the subsequent bonuses we received which, for a FT employee like me, was an additional $400-$600 per quarter. Nice to have, but I’d rather not have to work in such chaotic conditions. Life isn’t all about money – money is merely a tool.

When hiring became more difficult they had to raise the hourly wage which meant there were some new PT workers making more than FT workers that had been there for years. I made a little more than my coworkers and was making enough to satisfy me, but when it was time for my yearly raise I had to bug them to talk about it – took 4 months to finally get a raise and I did appreciate it, but not enough to stick around.

People are simply not that important to most companies – particularly corporations. We’re just cogs in the consumer machine now. I’ll probably get another job when I move but I’ll be looking for a small company that treats its employees with consideration and values their contribution beyond their function as Worker.

Fear, depression, mask mandates, isolation – I think these contribute in a big way to lack of motivation and the loss of desire to be a productive citizen.

I am an Instructor pilot for a company that provides initial flight training for all USAF pilots and RPA operators as well as our international partners under a federal contract.

We have been given a little bit more time to comply with the mandate due to our expected contract mod in early February 2022. Currently about half of the instructors are unvaxed and have no intentions to get vaxed since for the most part we are retired military and know what we fought for.

This mandate will result in effectively ending the USAF capability to provide initial flight training for USAF pilots.

If you value our country’s continued freedom call your congress critter and tell them to immediately stop providing funding for Resident Biden. The impact of his policies will otherwise be felt for a generation or longer.

Eastern PA here.
I can attest to the over 50’s behind the counter. I stepped into a fast food franchise for a quick bite and the woman who took my order had to be close to my age (79). On the upside though she was very nice and even called me…”Honey.”

I resigned Sept 2021 due to vax mandate. Can’t wait to see Sept nos. I work for myself now. I would rather not work and eat beans and grow veggies & have no $ to spend than than to get a vax and wear a mask.
RN

Jen Psakistan not only is clueless but she doesn’t bathe and is a rotten human being.

She’s a total embarrassment to William & Mary. Defund William and Mary and the Ivy League, too.

Also before I forget, Jill Biden is still a skank.

People are upgrading jobs. Help wanted signs everywhere. You have to close a door to open another.

What about workers quitting to get better jobs elsewhere?

I live near the beach in NC, so we are a tourist area during the warmer months. A young friend of mine was working cleaning homes for older folks and also as a waitress in the evenings at a nice restaurant on the beach. It was always packed with tourists, but at the time Biden was sending “free money” out to the “unemployed” to “help” them, so the owner had a hard time getting help. She could have worked as many hours as she wanted, but she was already exhausted (she has a 5-year-old son). So, I’m sure many young people quit their jobs for the free money (not sure how that works) or maybe it was summer work and they had to quit to go back to school.

All around this area for months on end there were help-wanted signs in store and restaurant windows. Nobody wants to work! As a member of the baby boomer generation — we all had to fight for jobs back then (as I recall). That not wanting to work thing makes no sense to me.

I am 63 and left my job in July. I call myself retired; but have not started taking my Social Security. My main reason for leaving was my tax bill. The kids are finished with college and I have no more tax breaks. I am doing well and happier then ever. Good luck to all the quitters.

At this point, with the jack booted Fascist D 卐 M ☭ CRAT scum, having captured almost every organ in the private and public sector, the inevitability of a “Black Swan Moment” is at hand.

Listen and understand. The Jim Jones, Hale Bop, purple tennis shoe wearing ideologues now in charge, are out there, they can’t be bargained with, they can’t be reasoned with, they don’t feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And they absolutely will not stop until we are dead.

The “Mandate” is not just a gauntlet thrown down in our faces, the needle is a symbol of the REGIME.

You WILL step into that vat of goo, next to Keannu Reeves and hook yourself up to the tubes like Big Brother tells you, or, you will be starved, oppressed, ostracized, incarcerated, persecuted, prosecuted and, eventually murdered.

As I type, all over America, little John Galts resist.

But there is thunder coming and at some point, a convergence of hatred for the Fascist D 卐 M ☭ CRAT filth that rule over us with that Black Swan will send us into anarchy.

Empty shelves, inflation, totalitarian edicts from pea brained bureaucrats will force the hands of those, who, up to this point, have sought change through elections, which, of course, are now a joke.

It will come like this –

An arrest warrant for Trump, or, maybe a police action that kills a few too many, or, a speech from a politician who comes right out and tells us to lock and load.

When it comes, offer no quarter.

Spare no Fascist.

Clean…, no, burn the Augean Stables to the ground, sow salt in the earth where Washington D.C. used to be.

Based on the majority of quits and the type of work, it looks like a lot of lower-paid workers left and probably for better opportunities at higher rates of pay. I’ve been watching as that fabled $15/hr has become a reality in fast food spots even in my area where the cost of living is reasonably low.

While I also have little doubt that many are actually terrorized by the media and government talking heads which lead to what I observe as a shocking difference of employed demographic (fancy words for “I don’t see nearly as many black workers as I have been used to seeing”) and I find it quite disturbing. I tend to fault the “corporate” policies over the state because my state is very open with no mask mandate anywhere (S.C.) if policy is at fault… and in cases I believe it is.

Speaking of which, I don’t know if Sundance touched on this or not, but look to future government bailouts for companies which complied with Biden’s non-existing mandate… bailouts which translate into enormous golden parachutes as the decision makers leave the companies they destroyed.

A nice, inflationary spiral: higher wages -> higher prices -> requiring higher wages -> resulting in higher prices -> repeat loop.

What the Record Spike in “Quits” Says about the Job Market, Inflation, and How Labor Gained Pricing 
by Wolf Richter • Oct 12, 2021

https://wolfstreet.com/2021/10/12/what-the-record-spike-in-quits-says-about-the-job-market-inflation-and-how-labor-gained-pricing-power/

Excerpt:

The high number of job openings push employers to offer higher wages, better benefits, signing bonuses, and similar enticements to bring qualified people on board. This has the effect of attracting people who’re already working, and they quit their jobs to take a new job.

Workers are now seeing that they have pricing power. When they leave a job to get better wages and working conditions at another company, they create a headache at their old employer who now, in competition with other employers, has to find a new employee by having to offer higher wages to find qualified people.

This is a sign that inflationary pressures from higher wages are building up in the economy and are spreading through the economy. Higher wages and pricing power by labor are among the factors that give inflation more momentum and staying power. And it’s one of the reasons the terms “transitory” and “temporary” to describe this inflation have become a silly joke, and even the Fed is backing off promoting that silly joke.

I am fortunate to work for a boss who treats me with respect, and our professional relationship is one where I am more a partner in the business than an employee. We don’t have a vax mandate or have to wear masks, unless we meet with a client who requests that we do out of common courtesy.

Like many others, I am hording cash to pay off debts because my wife and I don’t want to be slaves anymore. Once we are debt free, then it’s time to save up as much as possible. Crypto and gold over the long term are probably the best bets, along with a S&P 500 index fund.

I feel awful for anyone who is being ruined by this economy. Don’t blame us deplorables because we voted for Trump.

I own a construction biz that installs manufactured goods that are made domestically from imported raw materials (aluminum). I worry about the disparate situation of my company (and my peers) vs. the manufacturers. The manufacturers are starving for material…it cannot be found or bought. Making matters worse, their lower-tier factory employment is understaffed, and suffering tremendous attrition. These are $15-$22 / hour jobs in mostly rural industrial towns (placed there strategically decades ago for low cost employment). Once anything is actually produced, getting it on a truck and shipped to me is expensive, and frustratingly incomplete shipments hinder my biz.

My part of the industry requires more skilled tradesmen. As such, my people make more money, and I have largely been able to avoid similar attrition of staff. I work hard on culture, which I am sure helps some.

End users have managed to keep purchasing thru me, but cost increases will reach a tipping point. I cataloged all the price increase letters in 2021 from my different suppliers. Again, this is within a relatively niche part of construction. The stack is dozens of pages thick, with many suppliers appearing multiple times. We had been seeing 2%-ish annual increases pre-Covid. 40%+ for the year is typical…that is two decades worth of increases in 10 months. And this is not like lumber, which spiked and normalized…aluminum continues a steady slog upwards.

Raw material futures are at all time highs. Underlying stocks, the manufacturers I described above, are also flying high. Profit is up, leaning on mark-up percentages of higher cost goods. The home-building slump that started in June/July from high prices has not hit the aluminum market yet. I have to assume it will.

And so the dismantlement of the economy continues apace. It doesn’t matter whether the Powers That Be dismantle it directly via ludicrous vaccine mandates or whether people exercise their ‘my body, my choice’ prerogative and abandon their workstations. The desired outcome is the same: economic cessation on the way to neo-feudalistic lockdown.

Although I suppose there’s some autonomous pleasure in stabbing one’s self in the gut versus having your throat slit by a complete stranger. Either way though, you’re bleeding out.

G’morning SD. I’m seeing a lot of personal responses vice speculation. To speculate as to the “Quits” numbers, first and foremost I believe that people of all ages are just plain fed up with the Scamdemic. The ever changing and idiotic mandates, rules and edicts from tyrannical bureaucrats is wearing all but the most zealous of the cool-aid drinkers. Secondly, I honestly have no idea of how deaths are counted when the employee just stops showing up and the employer isn’t notified of the death. Many of these +242k could easily be the estranged and lonely (as sad as that sounds): Families, friendships and social groups have been fractured by those that desire safety over freedom.
Freedom lovers will find a way to survive. Quitting is just a closing door in a house full of other open windows and doors.
An inflection point is near for the tryants and other freedom stealing bureaucrats to be removed from their “Ivory Towers”.

The housing market seems fairly hot still in our area of Ohio. I have heard stories of large investment firms buying up some of the housing on the market so the rich are still getting richer. I can’t believe how high rent is getting, starting to make the house payment look smaller. As far as folks quitting their jobs, it’s going to get a lot worse in the next few week/months folks. We are preparing for a breakdown in the supply chains again. Told the wife to make sure we don’t run out of TP. Getting Ivermectin next week, just in case it’s needed. Unless we can pull off a change in government somehow, I am toying with the idea of getting off the grid. My boss is antivax and antimeds so no worries there. I am seriously wondering if the level of moral corruption in this country has passed the point of no return. We cannot believe anything coming from the White House, the Democrats, medical experts or big tech and large corporations. It is high time to look up. Even so, come Lord Jesus.

I’m wondering if, without their even realizing it, people are starting a laying flat movement.

August is also when Biden announced vaccine mandates for health care workers w hose agencies receive Medicaid and Medicare funds. Preemptive job changes?