Anyone who has watched events unfold in Victoria (Melbourne), or New South Wales (Sydney) in Australia, will admit no other westernized nation on earth has responded to COVID-19 with such extreme brutality by government toward their citizens. The view of Australia as a place of respect for minority rights, expressions of liberty, and the principle of inherent freedom has been destroyed.
Looking from the outside, Australia is now viewed as a totalitarian dictatorship more akin to North Korea than the U.K.
No democratic nation on earth has become more draconian and totalitarian in their effort to control their citizens than Australia. Quarantine camps, international and inter-state travel bans, harsh lock-downs and proximity limits, physical checkpoints operated by police and military, and brutal police tactics where violence is frequently used against their own citizens. The entire landscape of democracy in Australia has slowly been destroyed in the past 18 months, and it is only getting worse.
Australian citizens are now forced to have their physical location monitored through electronic passports and check-in points where a central government database can watch where people are. Additionally, all six states have now announced that only vaccinated people will be permitted to engage in society when/if they ever make the decision to open their economy.
Yesterday, a major U.S. politician finally had the nerve to address the issue. Speaking at the International Boat Builders’ Exhibition and Conference in Tampa, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis warned that Australia has gone too far when it comes to restricting freedoms, as it battles an outbreak of the highly contagious Delta variant.
Governor DeSantis called out the brutality of Australia and questioned if the United States should reassess our diplomatic relationship with the regime down-under, if we are to now accept Australia as more ideologically aligned with the communist Chinese system instead of the principles of freedom and individual liberty. WATCH:
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(Sky News) – Florida Governor Ron DeSantis has castigated Australia’s response to COVID, warning that the country has gone “dramatically off the rails” and likened it to communist China. Mr DeSantis questioned whether the United States should maintain its current level of diplomatic relationship with Canberra.
Unlike some American states, Florida has taken a relatively hands off approach to combating COVID. Governor DeSantis, a rising star of the Republican Party, has made most COVID-19 restrictions illegal in May 2021. He banned vaccine mandates for workers and is against mandatory mask wearing.
Speaking at the International Boat Builders’ Exhibition and Conference in Tampa, he warned that Australia has gone too far when it comes to restricting freedoms as it battles an outbreak of the highly contagious Delta variant in its eastern states. “Look what’s going on in Australia right now. You know, they’re enforcing, after a year and a half, they’re still enforcing lockdowns by the military,” Governor DeSantis warned.
“That’s not a free country. It’s not a free country at all. In fact, I mean, I wonder why we would still have the same diplomatic relations when they’re doing that. “Is Australia freer than China, communist China, right now? I don’t know. The fact that that’s even a question tells you something has gone dramatically off the rails with some of this stuff.”
Only just over 1,250 Australians have died from COVID, compared to more than 54,000 Floridians. Florida averages 350 deaths per day in a state of 22 million people.
Prime Minister Scott Morrison defended Australia’s response to COVID, arguing “cultural differences” were behind the different approaches. “I think we are different societies. I mean, we‘re great friends and we share beliefs and values that we hold dear … but in Australia, when it comes to public health, we’re a very pragmatic nation,” Mr Morrison told US network CBS. “And I can tell you, the virus doesn’t care what you believe. The virus cares about how it can come and take your life.”
Imagine we forced HIV patients to declare their status and did not allow them into restaurants because they could potentially infect the non HIV customers?
What an outcry we would hear. Somehow this kind of mandate is allowed for the unvaccinated. People are just plain willfully blind to the sickness of this all. Just blind on purpose.
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Sadly, AIDS became another political & Hollywood issue, when in fact, tens of thousands of non-homosexual persons, & those with hemophilia, were infected by AIDS contaminated blood & blood products.
It’s a virus! It doesn’t seek out people based on their sexual practices. People are too brainwashed to learn how a virus is transmitted & take precautionary measures.
The number one way HIV spreads is through anal sex between homosexual men and secondly through illicit intravenous drug use. Yes, heterosexuals are also infected but even in 2021, AIDS remains a disease primarily among the LGBT community and those in direct sexual/intimate contact with them. Most straight women contract HIV from bisexual men. This is an inconvenient fact.
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That confirms it, the one third truth is a much better polemic than the truth.
This sort of talk from De Santis is good for Australia. An excellent reality check.
The US might well simply not be a trustworthy ally in the future. Many will be thinking , “it’s time to nuke up.”
The feeling is Australians who don’t want to be under house arrest forced on them by Chinese-corrupted politicians need help to be freed from tyranny. You can choose to stay at home but people who don’t want to should not be forced to by others.
Aussie here. I agree with everything DeSantis said EXCEPT the reviewing of diplomatic relations. To me that is a stupid statement considering our 100+ years of history fighting together.
We are allied to the American citizenry and people, not the American government (the idea being ‘allies’ of the Democrat party/deep state is enough to make me vomit). I would hope Americans feel the same way.
Sad to say considering the disaster obama has wrot and there is damned little push back from the other side I wouldn’t expect any help from us anytime soon for anything at all.
Zhuk your reply made me think of a common mistake I constantly see.
We freedom loving people seem to always pull our punches. Your agreement with everything Desantis said except for the only tool that would be effective is counterproductive. Just the rhetoric alone is productive and I applaud it. I hope the tyranny ends for you as much as for us. Good luck and let’s all look forward to warm relations in the future as free people without tyrants.
We’re not going to forget about you down under. As soon as we liberate ourselves from tyranny we are going to help you.
I guess in regards to Australia, we’re now like South Koreans looking at North Korea.
It’s not about the Aussie people, it’s the Aussie People’s government that a rearrangement of diplomatic protocol would be intended for. Aussie people are indeed allied with American patriots (a distinction), and don’t be surprised if some Americans decide to go help ya’ll out in your own fight against your despotic tyrannical government
Oops – meant to reply to Ahuk86, our visitor from Oz – carry on, Professor
The Oz government will ALWAYS follow the US gvt.
So if Trump had won, we would have followed him.
Unfortunately because Biden won, Oz will follow Biden.
The govt here is always eager to actively demonstrate just how close we are to the US.
Don’t follow Biden .
You will regret it if you are still alive.
Biden did not win. The election was stolen.
I agree, after a decade of watching what goes on Down Under (visited in 2011) it’s clear that even culturally they want to be the U.S.
You adopted much of our Hot Rod culture in years past, and today your grain farming practices are identical down to the model of combine and the landscape drenched in glyphosate. 20 years ago you guys barely knew what a “taco” was and now you act like you invented the damn things. Same for the classic American hamburger.
Your money is also “dollars” and looking at health data, you guys loooove sugar and the resulting diabetes, as well as obesity, as much as we do.
Melbourne might as well be L.A., it’s sad. And even across the Tasman, NZ is the same. You can drive down Riccarton in Christchurch and pass a Subway, Burger King, McDonald’s, a mini mall and car brands owned by Ford. Corona beer and Bud in the beer caves.
You once had a cool and unique culture across the nation, but slowly and surely Oz has become stepbrother to the U.S. And don’t get me wrong, we were a TERRIBLE role model. I mean, look how you’ve turned out.
It is hyperbole intended to provoke Australian introspection.
Surely you can see that.
And we feel the same about you. It’s not you we blame but, your Government and ours need replacement.
With ya all the way. And remember that Nations don’t fight wars, Governments do. It’s the citizen’s job to question his government at every turn.
Of course the people are allied together dude. Hell, I would ally with any Chinese or Russian too – we are all just humans being controlled. But if your government is acting out, it’s not out of the question to start talking about sanctions (of course, only if desantis or trump were in office, Biden wouldn’t care if your cops killed everyone).
Is truly that bad in Australia?
Zhuk, My mum was Australian, married my dad during the war when his sub was out of Brisbane. It is my opinion that the WWII Aussies would be quite put out by what their government is doing to their fellow Aussies. My cousin is stuck in Brisbane and I fear for her. Her family lives here in the states. It is our hope that she will be able to play her US citizen card and get out of Australia before if fully collapses into total madness by power drunk rulers.
We do. We in America need to free our cousins in Australia and New Zealand from tyranny. DeSantis knows this. The relations aspect was to put pressure on your government not to oppress you because we do care about your freedom. It means the Australian government needs targeted, not the Australian people, who need saved.
What could possibly have made the Australian government think this was a good idea and that they can get away with it? Hmmm! Could it possibly have anything at all to do with that gun grab by the Australian government a fed decades ago…
From all appearances, the Aussies must have shut down their economy. Why don’t we see or hear about that?
Yep, correct, Australia will be fixed when it runs out of money for the massive number of lives subsidised with taxpayer’s money and unsustainable deficits.
Nothing corrects behaviour like going broke.
I have had this exact conversation with many. The bill for this exercise is unavoidable.
yet this has been going on for how long with no horrendous food and supply shortages? One would imagine that the internet would be filled with pics of empty store shelves, miles long gas lines and all of the other supply chain shutdown impacts and economic collapse. Maybe its coming…
Most Australians have not grasped that lending funds this folly…
And the folly funding bill, will be paid back with interest by Australian kids, or in the form of other collateral.
The NWO likes to bankrupt nations to weaken them. The people need to wake up…
Only just over 1,250 Australians have died from COVID, compared to more than 54,000 Floridians. Florida averages 350 deaths per day in a state of 22 million people.
The last wave of Delta is subsiding in Florida. Florida is now close to herd immunity with COVID, since Delta is so contagious it’s essentially immunizing the country against any future variants — barring an even more contagious variant, but not a single one has appeared on the scene, and Delta is almost a year old. The CDC’s own statistics show that all other strains of COVID are essentially extinct in the United States, snuffed out by Delta.
Meanwhile, fewer than 1% of Australians have immunity to COVID. The totalitarian BS in Australia is going to last a very, very long time.
This is the same thing that happened during the Spanish flu. Some states locked down and criticized others for not locking down. At first the lock down states looked like they won the argument. Then as time went on the fatality rates were about the same for locked or non-locked down states. It was due to herd immunity being reached sooner in the free areas and then eventually the locked down ones.
Alas not really, the 1918 Spanish Flu mutated itself into relative harmlessness over about 5 years, herd immunity had little to do with it. It’s progeny are still out there.
Yeah, influenza is much less contagious and so mutations of H1N1 flu are able to spread around. Delta COVID, measles, and chicken pox are basically at their ideal conformation for contagion and so provide lifelong immunity.
I no longer believe any stats gvt spews. If you are morbidly obese with diabetes and then you get a virus – any virus – it seems disingenuous to blame the virus.
It’s been said it’s like a someone standing on the bank of the river Stixx and being pushed in by the first breeze… and blaming the breeze.
What exactly is the “delta variant” and how does one test for it?
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D comes before E and we get to E with antibody dependent enhancements forced more rapidly by vaccines.
The trick is that no SARs vaccine has ever been sterilizing, from historic flus to Cv. So the hope isn’t herd immunity, impossible for a rapidly mutating SARs virus, but that the virus will likely become more virulent but less dangerous over time all on it’s own.
Delta Airlines.
don’t do it.
AHA!! So you have to get on Delta airlines to get the “test”? Okey then I have already sworn off air travel!!!!!
Funny you ask. I work with electronic medical records 5 days a week and have yet to see covid19 variant delta in a chart. Doctors don’t even mention that and it’s a legal record. Just covid19 and mind you we have thousands of codes and lots of specificity in our codes. In fact we have a brand new code as of yesterday, when the new code set took effect, for covid19 screening Z1152. You would think with the updates coming every October 1, we’d have a more specific code for the variant, either a new code or an additional code. Been doing this 14 years, we’ve never been allowed to code from lab results until c19, we can code a positive result, we can’t do that with the flu or any other lab result.
You need to do genomic sequencing and they aren’t doing it. The “delta” numbers are therefore made up and an excuse to hide that the vaccines don’t work.
You have to do genomic sequencing which they aren’t doing and in some states it is illegal. The numbers therefore are all made up.
Well, I’m in CA and I have not seen the homeless population here decreasing – quite the opposite in fact. Seems odd with a deadly virus that those people aren’t getting sick
Homeless people might have a strong immune system.
This is exactly what I was wondering. Are there stats from the health depts. on covid 19 infections and death in the cities homeless pop? Are they forced to get vaxxed in order to use the shelters and get access to their drugs? In SF they were put into hotels and provided drugs and liquor, to make sure they stayed in their rooms! Maybe London Breed could tie the covid jab to their heroin allotment. Maybe the secret is the unkempt beards, like all those Afghanis have!
If DeSantis really wanted to drive the left crazy he would put out an open invitation to ANY Navy Seal or other Special Forces soldier who is choosing NOT to take the jab, to come and be a part of Florida’s National Guard/Militia.
My bet is he would get so many takers that he might just want to create a new special division for these “best of the best”fighting men and women.
This would be akin to being in a fantasy football league and you get the first 50 picks.
DeSantis could be out after the next election. He barely won the state and Florida is almost 50-50 dem-republican.
That was before he proved himself.
It was also before the left revealed their Marxism to a larger segment of the population, more people now know about Hunter Biden’s laptop and that it compromised Joe Biden (more so than he already was), the Afghanistan disaster, the economy is in the tank…and more more more.
Will the 2022 midterms be fair elections, or altered elections?
Evidence is growing that Australia, and in particular the state of Victoria, has become ensnared in the Chicom Belt and Road Initiative, whereby Chinese infrastructure investments are used to take over countries. Andrews, whose regime in Victoria has perpetrated the worst atrocities, has been greatly enriched by deals with the Chicoms, has a Chinese concubine in addition to his Australian family and was recently severely beaten by persons unknown, quite possibly Chicom goons, in order to maintain his subservience. There is also evidence that Gates, Schwab and Soros, the triumvirs of the Great Reset, are building a headquarters in Australia like the one that their progenitor Blofeld had in the James Bond movies, from which subterranean compound they intend eventually to rule the world.
Yes, he has signed Vic up to Soros ‘Strong Cities’.
I didn’t know the personal info about him. ie. a lover, and being beaten up. Can you expand please?
Also, where do you think the hq is?
“and was recently severely beaten by persons unknown, quite possibly Chicom goons.”
No, not beaten as such and not by Chinese.
He went down some stairs with gravity assist for a more prosaic reason.
ScoMo put an end to Andrew’s Belt and Road fantasies and Port of Darwin is about to be repossessed
Wasn’t Tom Hanks in Australia to kick off this pandemic?
With their to be nuclear submarine courtesy USA??
Hmmm…the first diplomatic action of the Red State Coalition?
Go, Ron, go!
Stay committed to the people & true science, validated by replicable, controlled, long-term studies that aren’t conducted on human guinea pigs!
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It used to be “give me liberty or death” now, in the US, in Florida, its “give me ‘liberty’ and death”
Only just over 1,250 Australians have died from COVID, compared to more than 54,000 Floridians.
Florida averages 350 deaths per day in a state of 22 million people
Australia has 26 million people. and 1,250 covid deaths
Florid has 22 million people and 54,000 covid deaths
Desantis should stop lecturing and get out there and bury the dead.
“Only just over 1,250 Australians have died from COVID (in two years), compared to more than 54,000 Floridians. Florida averages 350 deaths per day in a state of 22 million people. ( nearly same population as Australia)”.
Yep, other than proving that the draconian Australian reaction works, what’s Ron’s point?
Is he jealous of the tiny number of Australian deaths from Cv?
The problem in Australia is that govt is effectively saying only zero is acceptable….. the stupidity is bottomless and will only last as long as the money does.
Given Australia’s mineral wealth that could be a long time.
Eff off bub……
That’s called ‘ad hominem’…it’s a technique for when you have no argument to offer and don’t like the facts.
It’s also a technique for when you are telling a disingenuous liar that you aren’t going to waste your time with him and don’t owe him endless answers to his repetitive bullsh*t.
Typing out a well-reasoned logical argument is wasted on such people, particularly when there is no real content to argue against. There is absolutely nothing wrong with telling them off.
“Tim” knows perfectly well that he’s just blowing smoke. His intention is to drown out real discussion, and futilely trying to reason with him over the obvious merely furthers that goal.
Florida is a retirement state with an older population, and Covid kills people in their 80s. And Australia will reach that death total eventually anyway, it’s freedom long gone, but Florida will still be a free country
Your preferred state of New York leads Florida by +300 deaths per million.
Florida also has a large number of retirees, you know, the age group that struggles with the CCP Virus
When it comes to reviewing diplomatic relations, remember that the Australian government was one of the bad actors in interfering in the 2016 election and perpetuating the Russian myth. To my knowledge, there has never been accountability for that. At a minimum Five Eyes needs to be terminated.
While I do not agree with the Wuhan Virus Nazi tactics, at least Australia isn’t acting to subvert it’s own sovereignty against the will of its people. What is happening in the dis-United States is a crime that will go un punished until the pain caused by this abdication really stings. I believe there will be a time in Australia when these thugs pretending to be police officers will get a comeuppance. If I wore a badge while brutalizing people for not wearing useless masks, I would think twice about what might happen in the future. How can these critical thinkers be so short sighted? People do not forget things like this. They might even take a page from the BLM playbook and start hunting down and harassing all the families of these cops, judges, and politicians perpetrating these atrocities on their countrymen. Confronting them for what they did during fauxvid lockdowns will be easy for members of these labor unions. They can, and likely will, turn the tables and when they do, the schadenfreude will be so thick you could cut it with a Fairbairn Sykes.
Hate to rain on your parade Lame Duck but We the People of Australia do NOT want OUR government interfering with OUR rights.They will find out soon enough that we do NOT ACQUIESCE.
The Demogaphic difference between FL and AZ are remarkably different.
Then there’s the difference in insolation ~ AZ is closer to the equator than FL. More UV. Fewer viruses outdoors.
Not only are citizens being mistreated in Australia, I just saw a video which showed law enforcement restricting media from a public area without cause.
So….yes citizens are being attacked and no media can report on it.
Not a good recipe here.
The evils’ hubris will be its’ own downfall. One thing I noticed NOT mentioned in the article, DeSantis’ speech or this thread is:
AU created an “app” for your phone that will call you, randomly and see if you are home or in quarantine, as they have demanded. You have 5 minutes to call back and if you do not, are not where you are ‘supposed’ to be, or are hiding your face or attempting to use someone else to do it (it recognizes you with FACIAL RECOGNITION; the harbinger of China/Totalitarian BS, to check) :
You are arrested.
BUT- their own pride in their perceived power led them to call the App: “Orwellian”. I’m dead serious. They named the App “Orwellian”. Sadly, 2 of the 5 people I told this to (including a former lover) did not know what that reference meant. The jackhammers at the top KNOW this, or at least are confident in it enough to laugh at Aussies, as they named it that.
RESIST, friends. And educate others, as you do. I explained to that ex-lover (and the others) who Orwell is, what ‘1984’ is (she had heard of it, but never read it/grasped it) and she has since downloaded it, read it and is now preaching to her friends at how smart she is. It’s a start- just getting the word out is the beginning of any resistance of more than one person. Ever.
RESIST. TOGETHER. That is the last thing self-loving blowhards will expect. And it will work. <3 to you all.
One quick off-topic: Admin… can you allow spacing before text? I understand with net-code the hesitance to allow <Tab> key, but I have tried to add a couple simple spaces to denote paragraphs/break up blocks of text- yet, everything gets aligned to the left, regardless (it ignores even typed spaces before text I’ve tried).
Just a thought, it helps my poor, educated mind. But, it’s possible indentation is just “old” now, haha. /shrug and sigh
But, still worth a request. /cheers all
They are treating their citizen worse the the Chinese , their government is worse then our and I really think ours is bad. It is time for free people to stand up.
The Aussies are not finished yet….it may take a little time, but they will destroy their oppressors.
Sorry Mr. Prime Minister, but we no longer have any shared beliefs and values.
We’re citizens over her, armed ones for that matter.
Your country has nothing but subjects.
We need to cease having any diplomatic relations with these tyrants and close their embassy and pull our diplomatic staff.
What a pitiful excuse for a country.
Governor DeSantis said it out loud, “It’s not about Health, it’s about Control.”
That is awesome! He has been attacked non-stop the way they attacked President Trump non-stop for four years. The big difference is that they can’t claim he is childish, or “un-Presidential”, which were legitimate concerns with President Trump, and I highly doubt they will be able to dig up some video of him saying something they think would be a deal-breaker, which with Trump, still didn’t turn out to be 🙂