California gubernatorial candidate Larry Elder [Website Here] was assaulted by a violent rage-fill group of Democrats during a campaign stop in Venice today. One of the racist Newsom supporters was wearing a gorilla mask and shouting vulgar epithets at the black republican candidate.
As security stepped forward to block the agitators from throwing eggs at the GOP candidate, other activists moved in and started becoming violent. The entire event was caught on camera. WATCH:
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The behavior of the leftists in California yet again highlights their racism, vitriol and violent nature.
Get thee back on the plantation Mr Elder
I get what you’re saying from the left’s point of view; but, that would be wishful thinking on their part. Larry Elder has never been on that plantation and I believe he’s sort of like Donald Trump in that he will hit back with a lot more force than he was hit with. This attack will only make him stronger and more determined to win.
Every day Leftists morph into what they feared most. Or perhaps they were projecting the whole time. I’ll go with the second option.
There is another option: strategically using feigned virtue as a weapon to disarm their critics.
It’s what their playbooks (Marx, Alinsky, et.al.) teach them.
“feigned virtue”
Exactly
They self-anoint themselves with all the high-minded attributes:
“We’re the open-minded ones”
“We’re the caring ones”
“When they go low, we go high”
yada yada
None of it true
They have a wholly unearned and wholly unwarranted sense of imagined self-superiority
Indeed. Based on zip.
Yep, and Rank & file Democrats believe this pucky… some of my close relatives….
It’s ok. Everyday just a bit more until the crew goes to work.
Just to be clear I come not negotiate but to die and take as many as I can
White Privilege.
White privilege is a synonym for work ethic. It’s worked for Cuban Americans, Vietnamese Americans, Korean Americans, Indian Americans and many other non-white ethnic groups.
Strange mass psychosis affecting the Left. Elder’s security people acted appropriately. They probably wanted to righteously kick the snot out of the a-holes who were assaulting them. But they took the high road and displayed restraint.
Until such restraint places Elder or themselves at risk.
The situation was perilously close to that for the former, and was clearly over into violence in the latter.
I observe again, these Nazi Thugs will continue to bully and will only ratchet up their bullying until they receive a horrendous beat down that terrorizes them for the rest of their lives.
We’ve been “restraining” for decades. All it has gotten us is here…
Here is not prime real estate on The High Road.
I think here sucks, and those who are really to blame are those who enable bullies because their aesthetic is intolerant of just violence administered to bullies.
BTW-where were the cops?
Preventing eggings of candidates is their job.
Ape girl and every body else who threw a punch should have been arrested on the spot. Why weren’t they?
That was the proof of the security teams good snap judgement in a fluid situation. As you stated it was “perilously close” to putting Larry at serious risk of injury. There was some defensive blocking going on so that Larry could get into the vehicle. The blockers were careful to not “draw a flag for unsportsmanlike conduct on the field.”
Had the security guards gone offensive, the video would become ammunition for the Liars in the media to make false accusations that would be shown on carefully edited videos. As it is, they have nothing showing bad conduct on Elders team.
I bow to your superior professional knowledge.
But point out again that these attacks will only ratchet up until Elder or one of his people is injured.
They will not stop. At some point this kind of response will enable damage to The Principal and his team.
Worrying about optics got us 13 dead in Afghanistan.
I agree with DaHermit. Btw, a little advice to L Elder to hire some younger bodyguards who are maybe LEO or former Military.
Or recently retired NFL linemen. ?
This can only help Elder!
Not if the MSM ignores it . Like it never happened.
Share the vids around.
God, what will we ever do if the MSM doesnt report in our favor? On any subject? (which they will never do) We might as well pack up and go home if we make ourselves dependent on the MSM to cover things fairly
Yup. Looks like Larry is creating fear among the deranged subhumans. Perfect.
Subhuman is apt. That Creed Beaton looking mother f’er literally sounded like a demon.
Not as long as they remain free to commit violence toward him with no repercussions or interdiction.
Perhaps in a genuine election it would, but sorry, the vote count has already been determined. Surprise! Newsom survives. . . . . The nation has not yet started fighting back against its conquerors. Hopefully more than just a handful of us begin showing some awareness and some energy. And some backbone.
If Newsom is recalled I will have reason to hope in votes again.
If not, not.
Until the next bully puts him in the hospital with a brick to the head.
As security stepped forward to block the agitators from throwing eggs at the GOP candidate, other activists moved in and started becoming violent.
Exactly how these communists rehearsed it.
Leftist street agitators are both skilled and well trained.
We’ve got nothing comparable.
Mr. Elder is the perfect man for the job! All the nuts in california, you need Him. He’s got COMMON SENSE which apparently not many folks do this day and time.
We are beyond common sense. Elder isn’t going to win and if he does 78% Democrat state legislators will make his life hell.
I’ve got a pen…….
N/M
APPARENTLY …you do not know ppl such Mr.Elder & Mr.West……..
One doesn’t need to know Elder or West. Elder is nothing more than a protest vote.
California is run by the state legislature which is approaching 80% Democrats and supported by unions and funded by coastal elite.
When voting machines steal your voice and rules implemented so fraud is rampant then the entire construct of voting become meaningless.
They are paid to put on a show. I have heard confessions from a few just like this group. I just wish their spigot would dry up.
They are also heavily drawn from the ranks of the mentally ill.
Not that any of us can’t see that for ourselves, but it is a deliberate tactic.
They destroy segments of society and weaponize them against the remainder.
Which suggests it would behoove us to create it.
But the first two prerequisites are missing in most MAGAs.
An honest realization that Violence is necessary.
An honest willingness to use it.
The Founders had both.
We do not.
This sums it up
Because… Tolerance?
It’s not news. They burned our cities last year. They are unhinged, dangerous people. I don’t want to live next door to them. I don’t want to consider them countrymen. They are literally controlled by the devil. Most of them abusing some sort of substance.
The country is way too big. Maybe Mr. Elder can do the right thing and secede California from the rest of the country.
AMEN!
One can clean that mess up in 3 minutes.
Straight up question, Chase, to answer to your mirror not here.
If you are really convinced of that, are you willing to MAKE WAR on them with all that requires?
Or you can appease them for peace in our time.
they are ….what they are…. anarchists & bolsheviks whores…….
Beware the racist white egg.
It looks like P44 gave the ugly boot with the monkey mask pitching lessons.
Me thinks Elder will win this..
Not a chance
Elder wins if the vote counting machines are not rigged.
All voting machines are controlled by third party corporations. Paper ballots and registered voter with ID.
deport all the DemonRats and keep all the illegals!
There used to be a group of super-high IQ people really good at identifying other people in videos like this one. I’d love to see purple hair gal identified/outed. Not sure what the next move would be, though…
I think 8chan is shut down.
4chan /pol/ is still there still doing it
Unless it results in her being beaten so badly she is terrorized for the rest of her life it is a pointless exercise n’est ce pas?
Storm Troopers in the streets of America!
Those are all 100% union members, SEIU most likely. They’re straight up Commies, they are at all the Antifa events in SoCal with their little signs.
Well organized and well funded. Obama’s civilian army. He wasn’t kidding, folks.
No he wasn’t, he was/is serious.
We, on the other hand, are not.
Amazing that the Democrats and Leftists always accuse “us” of being and doing what they themselves do. You don’t see violence in the Right, you don’t see hate and vitriol on the Right; it always comes from the Left. They destroy everything they come in contact with.
And, they’re proud of it!
And they are WINNING, and will continue to until we are willing to do what it takes to destroy them.
…No we do not have here in the USA…last time in the Americas…gen. Pinochet took care of them…
I’m embarrassed to admit I associate with the person I’m about to quote. She is my conservative pro-45 buddy’s wife. I really can’t tell what she is politically, but she’s clearly ignorant.
A Larry Elder ad was playing on TV. She’s said she can’t stand that guy. I asked if she liked Newsome. “Hell no”. What don’t you like about Larry Elder? “You know if he gets elected it’s going to be all Black Lives Matter bs…”.
There was nothing I could do. She wouldn’t watch old videos, compilation videos, nothing. Pure unfiltered stupidity with a heavy sprinkling (this hurts) of racism. I’ve known her 30 years. I don’t know how this happened. Did BLM do this to her? She’s never been a deep thinker.
I’m voting for Larry. I’ve listened to him for years. We both follow the Thomas Sowell school of thought economically and the Christ model of family.
Who knows how effective he will be. Seeing this video brought me back to my buddy’s wife from a few days early and it hurts deeply to see this. Our love for this country unites us. Newsome doesn’t love this country and he doesn’t love Americans. Larry does.
I think what she means is that BLM (the DNC’s street army) will re-emerge to do what they do best, scream, burn, loot, and murder.
She’s likely right about that. But she has absolutely no basis to say “she can’t stand [Larry Elder].” The guy is right as rain on everything. She couldn’t ask for a better leader to step up and run against the Newsom machine.
And the sorry fool in the bandana mask at the end who was shouting that Larry Elder can’t do anything anyway because the Democrats own everything … that fool hasn’t met God yet. Larry has. Larry knows what can be done with God.
She meant because he’s black he will have a black agenda. I told her his thoughts on blm and the brokenness in black families being about absent fathers. She says he doesn’t mean any criticism he’s ever had and will immediately start advancing the blm agenda. I’m telling you, she meant it and wasn’t even open to hearing otherwise.
Then my only thought is, she must be hitting the bottle hard to be that blindly stupid.
I wonder how she safely crosses the street, only looking left.
What I’ve seen of mankind…most aren’t that smart.
I think there IS a reason for her jumping to that conclusion: she probably does know that once most black candidates get in office, they suddenly abandon the good will and the logic they campaigned on and join the black caucus, which, in turn, demands they advance one subgroup over all others.
Barack Obama was “reasonable” to people for all of a few months when he pulled that attack on the cop in Boston and the beer summit ensued. Same with how he treated the Trayvon thing.
If your friend hasn’t listened to Larry and his very public conservatism and his every honest appraisals of what ails black American, she is using previous experience to guide her.
And she’s pretty stupid to think all Black people are the same. Really, now. She’s as bad as Leftist, and I don’t think her thought process is as deep as yours.
Who knows, she may be right. They’ve snuck one in before by saying all the right things. Remains to be seen.
If you’re suggesting Larry Elder is Obysmal in disguise, you’re dead wrong.
Larry Elder is ahead of all the candidates out here because he has been a strong Conservative/Libertarian presence on the radio for almost 2 decades….he’s not slipping any BLM B.S. in on anyone…how legislatively effective he’ll be against the super majority in Sacramento is questionable…but he will make a great spokesman for our cause from his position in the bully pulpit
You just need her to vote yes on the recall. It does not matter who she votes for to take over.
I admire your patience. I have zero time for people who are as thick headed as two planks.
Gotta Be A Leftist…..even if she won’t admit it.
As as she votes to remove Newsom, she can leave the second part of the ballot blank. It’s still a win! Heck, she can even vote for Caitlin Jenner. IT DOES NOT MATTER HOW LOW THE PERCENTAGE OF VOTES LARRY ELDER RECEIVES AS LONG AS HE IS THE WINNER AND NEWSOM GETS RECALLED BY 50% + 1 VOTE.
That must be why the wacko left was attacking Elder in Venice Beach. They think a black man is less preferable than our smarmy, slick Gavin. No way, they believe Elder is BLM my dear, and neither does your friend’s wife.
Venice would hold a parade on the strand for a black candidate over Newsome. They would be handing him their stash instead of throwing eggs.
“will re-emerge to do what they do best, scream, burn, loot, and murder.“
Wait until the old guys get into the game.
The reason these monkeys do this is they don’t know real pain.
Your conservative buddy needs a new wife. It must be very difficult living with such a close-minded person on a daily basis.
Oh my God! What an IDIOT!
Yikes.
Tell her he just might be the ONE politician in CA. who could get the BLM movement under control, because he understands how toxic they are for *everyone* and may have some creds- with black people at least, not these braindead white SJWs.
The idea anyone in governance can control anything is my chuckle for the week.
She’s a racist, apparently believing that Larry Elder can only do Black GroupThink.
When people show you who they are, believe them…..iow, don’t be confused about it. Don’t try to figure her out. She has told you who she is. Believe her.
The “key” there was watching television! That’s all you needed to say!
one of the INTENDED side effects of the constant media pushing of mixed race couples on TV, of BLM and all the rest of the BLACKS ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT MATTER! stuff is definitely to create “negro fatigue” through overexposure.
When people pushback against over-representation by media shill of black people and black issues it not only lets people who complain about it be targeted as racists but it ALSO drowns out all other black voices.
It’s clever, it’s cynical, it’s sinister. And it is absolutely deliberate.
I’m being sincere. That’s insightful. She’s ultimately responsible for her thoughts and actions but there was a lot of intentional investment in getting her there. These people know what they’re doing.
Someone else commented she had now “told”me who she is and to believe her. Sadly, that’s likely true.
Another treeper commented there is a certain reasonableness to her thought process because there are plenty of examples of that happening. Also true.
We probably all have people like this is our circles that we can’t avoid. In some way they are victims of the media. I don’t know how much I mean that. It’s nuanced.
You are making that up, aren’t you negasht? Ha! I live in California and no one mistakes the good guys and the bad guys here. We have suffered too much to be fooled.
Ape masks??? How racist is this???
One of the hacks called Elder the black face of white supremacy.
Thinking they watched Dave Chappelle as Clayton Bigsby too many times.
They throw anything to see what sticks.
These a**holes don’t care as long as their team “Won”
Keep on go Mr Elder,
Mr Elder needs a new improved security team. That was disturbing. Really. Protect your man, don’t stop and chat with the professional thugs. Got lucky this time. Now all see the vulnerabilities. There are people who would take his life in an instant.
My first thought as well.
It would do Larry a lot of good if he gave a speech about what happened. And covered what the man in the bandana at the end was shouting about. That fool was screaming that Larry can’t do anything because the Democrats own everything. I’d like to hear Larry address that sad truth and that it doesn’t have to be California’s future.
I am losing my patience w/ these violent lunatics.
And the really sad thing is, this would not have gotten so bad if it had not been encouraged by absolutely Fake News and Lying Politicians.
Who all the while, even now, are branding the Peaceful Right as the violent ones.
simply if the FBI would not have framed the Proud Boys – this Stuff wouldnt be happening.
How many FBI agents you think they’ll send to investigate this racist attack?
zero to none
Monkey didn’t bring a noose.
Have lost.
As I have oft opined only a massive horrendous beat down that terrorizes them for life will stop them, and if they aren’t stopped they will continue to ratchet up their violent bullying.
That’s the historically demonstrated reality.
Our aesthetics have nothing to do with it, and if our morality forbids it we need to at least have the intellectual and moral courage to acknowledge the cost of that is unrestrained evil.
I have always believed that truly violent people aren’t convinced with reason, logic and appeals to decency. Sure, there are the exceptions, but for most, they are locked in a cycle that only knows violence.
Thus, if violence is the stimuli they need to understand, then we must deliver violence to them in such generous amounts that they have miraculous conversions of opinion.
hired heroin addicts.
that is the sole supply of soro’s army. low level handlers keep the addicts rounded up and on call. throughout most cities in this country.
Yeah, did we use logic and reason on Hitler and Japan?
The Japanese regularly probed the resolve of the US. And found weakness. When they sank the Panay, and there was little US reaction, the Japanese knew they could proceed with their plans.
Only in the sense of the Logic of Dresden, Tokyo, and Nagasaki.
Nagasaki, the second one, in part just for the helluvit and because they had it coming.
Is spitting on someone considered an assault?
Asking for a jabbed friend:)
Yes.
On the same page. Give to them in spades and when the beg relief give them more until sash in crimson.
Some can speak the language of reason, some can only understand barbarism. And there are some fluent in both. It’s time we started speaking to these dirtbags in their own language, and far more eloquently than they are at it.
Concur
There is only one way to get a bully to pay attention……be another bully with said bully, man or woman. My mom always told the boys and I totally agree, never hit a female unless she hits you first. If a female strikes a male, she has put herself in the same box and deserves whatever she gets…..JMO
and I’m just an-
Lovely bunch of mentally ill
No wonder the left thinks we are racists, they think how could a person not be?
No wonder the left thinks we are fascists, how could a person not be?
( I’d like to know who that bald headed tough guy is as well as the monkey girl.)
Unless knowing results in someone being able to beat them to the point of hospitalization, it is a pointless exercise.
They left doesn’t *think*. They only parrot what they’ve heard elsewhere and/or are told to say. They are irrational people consumed by their undisciplined emotions with no logical reasoning or critical thinking skills. It’s why they can’t comprehend the relationship between cause and effect or converse rationally with others who aren’t mentally incapacitated such as them.
Venice Beach has always been wacko. It is the home of Muscle Beach and the Boardwalk there has always been colorful. In the past twenty yearsVenice has become trendy to Hollywood libs etc. but there are lots of homeless and it is seedy there now. Expensive and a mess. Go to Redondo/Torrance Beach for some peace and quiet and beauty. Slightly south but still Los Angeles and just a hop from Manhatten Beach and Hermosa Beach, of Beach Boy fame.
I don’t think I can bare to watch that video. Praying for Larry and his family and staff. I would pray that the people of California wake up, but that would be pointless.
He should have laid out the woman wearing the monkey mask and then the homeless guy who suckered him when he turned his back. I really think we are at the point that nothing will change until those being attacked pull out their concealed carried and place a bullet squarely between the eyes. I remember growing up my mother always taught me to be careful who I try to pick a fight with because maybe one day I pick the wrong person and they pull a gun and it would be the last fight I pick.
He should not have allowed himself to be separated from his team. He should not have interacted with the thugs, his job is to protect Elder. I don’t know his background, but I cannot imagine any competent law enforcement officer ever allowing someone to get into his space like that. Dangerous. Always to be avoided.
Concur
An armed society is a polite society.
At least gorilla lady didn’t throw her feces as some primates are wont to do.
That was next.
Funny how the local McClatchy rag referred to the Jan 6 people as “zealots” but lefty protestors are “activists or Men or women”. We see you media. it’s not working.
McClatchy rags do suck!
Just another beautiful day in Venice, CA. You should see the glorious humanity that lines the sidewalks of what, once upon a time, long ago, might–might–have been a reasonably decent neighborhood–but certainly more than 25 or 30 years ago.
It just goes to show, yet again, that you can take the Democrats out of the KKK, but you can’t take the KKK out of the Democrats.
Or the Commie either
Venice is filled with human debris…dont know why Elder would even go down there… all the signage and energy points to Recall (“Newsom Sucks” posters on every Freeway overpass here in SoCal) and to Elder winning (Elder signs everywhere)…there is simply no Pro-Newsom energy….of course, cheat- in, mail-in ballots to majority Dem registered voters, ballot harvesting, and flat-out Maricopa and Fulton County cheating has everyone on edge here….trust me, as a Californian we really dont want to let everyone down here…turn out on Tuesday will be high…let’s see if we can overcome the cheat
Plenty of signage for traitor Newsom in Sacramento
Wow. The antifa (?) who are actually racists attacking a black man.
Larry play the victim this time, but next time tap into the people who support you. Just do it intelligently.
I live in San Diego, California’s 50th District (Rep. Issa), and when I filled in my ballot to Recall Gavin Newsom and replace him with Larry Elder I sealed the envelope with a short prayer and a kiss. All I can do now is hope and pray that greasy sleazeball Gavin Newsom is successfully recalled. At this point, nowadays, my vote, my prayers, and my deep and abiding faith is just about all I have left to give.
Newsom is so unlikeable in California he could be mistaken for a Republican.
Democrat and Republican…
Two sides of the same coin
First thing I would have done was reach out and tear that mask of her face.
Why didn’t security do that?
Why wasn’t she arrested?
These thugs are trained to appear more violent than they actually become. Yelling, aggressive offensive actions can escalate quickly but if you’ll notice no real harm was done other than a push against a security guard who was close. The training these POS protesters go through is so they draw out violence against themselves purely for cameras and Leftwing Liars twisted reports.
It’s sick and police seem to ignore it until someone gets hurt. The problem is bad police policy, IMHO. The protesters should be forced to stay at least 15 ft away and no projectiles should be tolerated. But this is California so I assume the police are biased or under orders to let it happen.
Too staged … too much coincidence
Satan’s children.
It’s long past time to stomp this scums ass!
It’s been set by union thuggism for years. Pelosi, Trumpka, democrat thugs.
I suspect that Gorilla Girl looks better with the mask on.
What was the purpose of the gorilla mask. Was she pretending to be a right winger that happened to be a white supremacist. Is that the con she was trying to pull off?
Democrat racism towards an African American = Patriotism and political expression.
Republican racism towards an African American = Racism and criminal sentencing.
Folks, that’s about as deep as it gets.
Forgot, below is fact worth revisiting. Now, who is the party of racism?
https://images.app.goo.gl/tEuz7DtL2u5CoYGo6
Gavin Newsom is the very epitome of smug white entitlement.
Too stage – too much coincidence
The history of the Lenin/Marx/Engles crowd is dripping with blood and death.
Why??
It’s because in their self centered self righteous minds, they see themselves as captains of a glorious and wonderful future for all of mankind (excuse me, personkind).
The future will be glorious for everyone, can’t you see?
As soon as they get rid of the horrible people who see a different path to the future, the sooner Utopia can be achieved.
This of course describes the useful idiot class. The college kids, pencil necked soyboys and other assorted victims.
But behind them, pulling the strings are the power hungry truly evil ego maniacs. The Barack Obama’s of the world.
These are sick dangerous people
Marx also saw himself striding triumphantly over the ruins of God’s most precious creation.
These ilk are no different.
Why no arrests for assault? So perhaps we need personal protection for our candidates who will apply a beatdown to those that assail our candidates? Ms Gorilla mask seemed pretty unconcerned about throwing a punch. No consequences, no accountability… I think this is why the left loves California. It’s a paradise for their narcissism. A place where they are held accountable for nothing… And they are exporting this throughout the Country…
Until they get punched.
That’s what it takes.
Imagine the gorilla chick receiving a flying elbow to the jaw?
If you recall, back in 2016 leftists infiltrated Trump rallies to disrupt. If a protester struck Trump supporter there were no consequences, and in fact the police helped set up a gauntlet to funnel MAGA through the angry mob waiting to pummel them. HOWEVER – if a Trump supporter so much as raised an hand against one of the Leftists, the Leftist would flop like LeBron James. Police would swoop in to arrest MAGA and cart them off to jail. Then they would be prosecuted, while the leftists got off scott free.
Flop like LeBron James … LOL
Imagine her receiving a banana.
Nice that she was culturally-misappropriating gangsta-style talk with all the ubiquitous “MF” vulgarity.
The funny thing is, she is prettier with the mask on!!
I guarantee you, if somebody punched the gorilla mask that person will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law at the local, state, and federal level. Meanwhile, Gorilla (if she’s arrested at all) will get a suspended sentence and unsupervised probation. Then gorilla will file a massive lawsuit against the other person seeking compensation for pain and suffering.
The Gorilla mask group are … how do you say? … oh yeah … mental patients in a CA Assylum
Should have a pocket knife on you at all times; pop her tires….. she needs to lose about 20 lbs with walking anyways.
Perhaps she could have gotten a biggy back ride from the chrome dome tough-guy! white knight coming to save her…..with his girly swish hand slap.
Agreed, there is no negative reinforcement. Her behavior would change radically if she understood the risks of her actions…
The “me” generation, gave birth to the “me, me, me” generation.
I saw somewhere that these potatoes were paid homeless potatoes.
Hate crime charges should apply. The mask was obviously racial based.
Interesting, I thought the same thing…
Let me offer another comparison between lawless Leftists ruling the CA roost … and the rest of the world.
England just played a World Cup Qualifier against Hungary and the world went apoplectic because some fans were making monkey noises and throwing bananas at a couple of England’s black players (yes, racism is far, far, worse everywhere else than America). FIFA is up in arms, Boris Johnson is up in arms, the offenders are being tracked down with facial recognition software. There is a massive reaction to the incident(s).
Meanwhile … in the *cough* *cough* “progressive” State of CA … gorilla masks worn to mock a black conservative … don’t elicit so much as a peep from anyone except conservatives. Oh well … that’s what happens when the LA Times endorses all racist memes against Larry Elder … calling him a step an fetch it boy for white folk.
Publicize this crime more as it may push the undecideds to vote for RECALL of Newsom. You can only live with so much agitprop theatre crap.
Easier than applying actual blackface and a wig. Uh, where have I seen pictures of that before?
The lack of consequences is a dog whistle to the Left: Political violence is permitted and encouraged. And if it escalates to assassination … well, they will frown on that. Probably result in a first offender diversion program for the assassin, mitigating circumstances because he (or she or xe or they, as the case may be) was fighting for social justice.
Maybe they will frown… I see them pushing the envelope a little further every time… They get closer to the allowable murder all the time. Think January 6, they are attempting to make a hero out of the Capital officer who murdered Ashley Binns…