Statements made by Joint Chiefs Chairman General Mark Milley about his belief that President Trump was contemplating a post-election coup should not be viewed in a vacuum. Last month this same General Milley was defending the teaching of Critical Race Theory to West Point cadets. However, the comments Milley made last month, and more attributed today, only solidify several years of CTH watching Milley operate, and now we have answers to previous puzzling questions.
Remember, General Milley did some really odd things as Joint Chiefs Chairman under President Trump:
(1) Milley never removed Lt. Col Alexander Vindman from his White House post after the underling compromised his leadership position. The pentagon left Vindman on assignment to the NSC even after Vindman attempted to take-down President Trump.
(2) Milley was then slow to react to Navy Secretary Richard Spencer threatening President Trump; attempting to extort him into inaction over the disciplinary plans against the SEAL commando, Chief Petty Officer Edward Gallagher. And perhaps worst of all…
(3) Joint Chief Chairman Milley, and SoS Mike Pompeo traveled to Mar-a-Lago in December 2019, where they informed President Trump of military strikes in Syria and Iraq *after* they took place. [Background Here] [Background Here]. President Trump made Esper, Milley and Pompeo hold a press conference without Trump supporting them; then President Trump remained silent on the issue for days.
It seemed like CTH was alone in noticing the issues with the Pentagon and suspicions of Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, Defense Secretary Mark Esper and Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Mark Milley. However, a few days after the Mar-a-Lago incident, Col Douglas Macgregor expressed his own suspicions about the U.S. military attack in Iraq and Syria that paralleled our gut reaction. Macgregor stated he believed President Trump was being intentionally and “skillfully, misinformed”.
There were valid reasons for the suspicion around General Milley and the entire Pentagon apparatus.
Factually, President Trump’s strategic approach toward foreign threats and foreign intervention (through the use of geopolitical economic pressure) was a major paradigm shift that removed the Defense Department from a primary role, and placed them back into a more appropriate ‘contingency’ role, when it came to foreign policy and national security.
It was obvious from the outset of the Trump administration that the Pentagon did not like that position.
Before explaining more, let us remember General Milley last month outlining his worldview on internal domestic politics.
Note how Milley connected the teaching of Critical Race Theory to his view that people attempted to “assault” the DC Capitol and “overturn the Constitution of the United States“. Watch this carefully, because in many ways he is saying the quiet thing out loud:
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♦ In the big picture, it was not difficult to figure out why the Pentagon would be opposed to Trump.
During the 2016 Trump campaign and early administration, President Trump’s expressed foreign policy was viewed by NATO alliance members as a threat. President Trump dared to tell them their “cold war mentality” was outdated. Heck, the NATO members were simultaneously purchasing energy from Russia at the same time they were demanding the U.S. military protect them from any Russian aggression.
The same type of common sense perspective that startled the NATO alliance members applied internally to the U.S. military.
President Trump’s preferred use of economic warfare made the Pentagon’s role diminished. Instead of punching North Korea’s Kim Jong-un, President Trump hit the checkbook of Chinese Chairman Xi Jinping (tariffs etc.), and then opened diplomatic discussions with the DPRK Chairman. Toward the threat from North Korea, the primary military response became the contingency plan; President Trump engaged in economic leverage, not military…. and it worked.
As a consequence, the value of James Mattis was replaced by the effectiveness of U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer. Joint Chief’s Milley was not in the primary planning room; Milley was replaced by Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross (until he’s needed).
In the Trump era, the President was telling the Pentagon where and when to position; and then he asked them for ‘contingency’ preparation. Decades of Pentagon-centric foreign policy was lessened by an entirely new geopolitical approach based on an economic strategy. This was, in essence, the Trump Doctrine.
President Trump was executing a foreign policy, a clear doctrine of sorts, where national security was achieved by leveraging U.S. economic power. It was a fundamental shift toward allies and adversaries; summarized within the oft repeated phrase: “Economic security is national security.”
The Trump Doctrine of using economics to achieve national security objectives was a fundamental paradigm shift. Modern U.S. history provided no easy reference.
“Peace is the prize” ~ President Donald Trump
The nature of the Trump foreign policy doctrine, as it was visible, was to hold manipulative influence agents accountable for regional impact(s); and simultaneously work to stop any corrupted influence from oppressing free expression of national values held by the subservient, dis-empowered, people within the nation being influenced.
There were clear examples of this doctrine at work. When President Trump first visited the Middle-East, he confronted the international audience with a message about dealing with extremist influence agents. President Trump simply said: “Drive them out.”
Toward that end, as Qatar was identified as a financier of extremist ideology, President Trump placed the goal of confrontation upon the Gulf Cooperation Council, not the U.S.
The U.S. role was clearly outlined as supporting the confrontation. Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Egypt, Bahrain and the United Arab Emirates needed to confront the toxic regional influence; the U.S. would support their objective. That’s what happened.
Another example: To confront the extremism creating the turmoil in Afghanistan, President Trump placed the burden of bringing the Taliban to the table of governance upon primary influence agent Pakistan. Here again, with U.S. support. Pakistan is the leading influence agent over the Taliban in Afghanistan; the Trump administration correctly established the responsibility and gives clear expectations for U.S. support.
If Pakistan doesn’t change their influence objective toward a more constructive alignment with a nationally representative Afghanistan government, it is Pakistan who will be held accountable. Again, the correct and effective appropriation of responsibility upon the influence agent who can initiate the solution, Pakistan.
The process of accurate regional assignment of influence comes with disconcerting sunlight. Often, these influences are not discussed openly. However, for President Trump the lack of honesty is only a crutch to continue enabling poor actors. This is a consistent theme throughout all of President Trump’s foreign policy engagements.
The European Union is a collective co-dependent enabler to the corrupt influences of Iran. Therefore the assignment of responsibility to change the status is placed upon the EU.
The U.S. will fully support the EU effort, but as seen in the withdrawal from the Iran Deal, the U.S. will not enable growth of toxic behavior. The U.S. stands with the people of Iran, but the U.S. will not support the enabling of Iranian oppression, terrorism and/or dangerous military expansion that will ultimately destabilize the region. Trump holds the EU accountable for influencing change. Again, we see the Trump Doctrine at work.
Perhaps the most obvious application of the Trump Doctrine was found in how the U.S. administration approached the challenging behavior of North Korea. Rather than continuing a decades-long policy of ignoring the influence of China, President Trump directly assigned primary responsibility for a reset to Beijing.
China held, and holds, all influence upon North Korea and has long-treated the DPRK as a proxy province to do the bidding of Beijing’s communist old guard. By directly confronting the influence agent, and admitting openly for the world to see (albeit with jaw-dropping tactical sanction diplomacy), President Trump positioned the U.S. to support a peace objective on the entire Korean peninsula and simultaneously forced China to openly display their closely-guarded influence.
While the Red Dragon -vs- Panda influence dynamic is still ongoing, the benefit of this new and strategic approach brought the possibility of peace closer than ever in recent history.
No longer is it outlandish to think of North Korea joining with the rest of the world in achieving a better quality of life for its people.
Not only did President Trump openly share a willingness to engage in a new and dynamic future for North Korea, but his approach removed the toxic international and domestic influences that held down the possibility for generations. By leveraging China (through economics) to stop manipulating North Korea, President Trump opened up a door of possibilities for the North Korean people.
This is what I mean when I say President Trump provided North Korea with an opportunity to create an authentic version of itself.
However, take away U.S. military power and influence, or worse yet, stop using U.S. military power, and the leaders within the military industrial complex start to sense their institution becoming functionally obsolescent. Overlay this U.S. military fear with pre-existing ideological differences and the situation gets worse. This is what President Trump was facing in the background as the Pentagon viewed the Trump economic strategy as a threat to their previous geopolitical mission under all previous administrations.
Unfortunately, like all other issues in the era of hyper-polarization, normally liberal Democrats would be alarmed about military leadership going rogue with their own agenda. However, as long as that agenda was anti-Trump, the political-left with a totalitarian outlook are now okay with it.
In 2020 Democrat presidential candidate Joe Biden was openly asking the U.S. military to initiate a coup against President Trump. The corporate media didn’t bat an eyelash… The traditional checks-and-balances, things that normally keep us stable, started getting very sketchy within the military; this has only gotten worse in the past year.
Remember,… the impeachment effort was only a “soft-coup” until the uniformed military showed up. Yet these same Pentagon leaders have the nerve now to call a protest in DC, likely manipulated by the FBI, an insurrection “intended to overturn the constitution of the United States of America.” The one thing these ideologues are good at is projection.
“Tell me again how we should “back the blue”, as we watch parents arrested at school board meetings. Tell me again that most FBI agents are good & legitimate, while we watch 15 agents investigate a NASCAR garage pull-down cord while ‘known wolves’ roam free and sexual predators rape teenage Olympic gymnasts. Tell me again. Please, keep telling me…. and when the order comes down to go door to door to collect citizens’ firearms, or to arrest citizens for wrong Facebook thoughts, or for refusing vaccinations, our local police and military will follow orders”… and I will say, “Tell me again”… ~Sundance
It seems to me that there are extra special penalties for going against or around your commander in chief. It also seems to me the penalties are more harsh than they would be for similar but civilian crimes, and it also seems to me that the statute of limitations doesn’t end when your commander is replaced by a new guy.
BTW whoever they are taking orders from today isn’t their commander in chief.
Obama’s Maoist elves seeded throughout the Xiden Whitehouse.
Illegitimate pResident doing the bo-jangles for Mao’s Disciple, Barack
This man insults young whites and their white parents… military recruits don’t arrive at training camp in a vacuum. They are raised by decent Americans who truly know everyone is to be judged by their character and their conduct. Milley and the rest of this leftist crowd have been taken in by the false notion that whites are bigoted. This, despite white America having been raised in the shadow of Martin Luther King’s admonition that no one should be judged by their skin color. Milley is a fool and a democrat (but I repeat myself.) The tumult on Jan 6 was about election results that smelled really bad. No one has proven it was an honest count. Until they can show the election was fair, clear-eyed people will never accept the former vice president as the nation’s leader. We’ve been told to shut up and sit down. I refuse.
Milt, I would not follow Milley or Mattis anywhere in battle, I would follow General “Nuts” McAuliffe anywhere. What a difference a generation makes. Like you, I refuse to shut up, sit down, or to comply. May God be with us all as we descend into the abyss that our leftist/socialist/communist leaders take us into.
I believe Col Douglas Macgregor is the real deal, a real military leader. Everything I’ve heard him say is correct.
I received an email from my local PBS station inviting me to watch an event with the military where they were going to discuss how to rid our military of the white privilege attitude. I sent back a scathing email saying “how dare you insult our military by even suggesting this as a problem in their ranks” and other caustic comments. We need to fight back at EVERY opportunity, no matter how small, because it all adds up.
“I would not follow Milley or Mattis anywhere in battle”
I agree (as a retired combat Marine I was always very skeptical about “Mad Dog” a/k/a “The Monk” Mattis as his “combat” experience was as a senior officer in the CP) but would add a very great many others (but a few—Kelly, McChrystal, Petraeus, McRaven, McCaffrey, Mullen, Powell, Hayden, Dempsey, McMaster, Dunford, Berger et al.) and would expand your comment beyond just combat to any context as well as to disbelieve instead of “follow.”
Having spent 30 years an active duty, along with my spouse, and a son who was injured in Afghanistan, I would not recommend to anyone to join the Armed Forces today. They have truly lost their way.
In not recommending military service to conservatives, you doom the military and the nation to complete control by the left.
A big thanks to you and your family for your service.
By encouraging enlistment, you doom your child to years of hell on earth if your child is a white male. Mine is. I told him after he turns 18 it’s up to him, but until then, no, but HELL NO. He wanted to join the USAF like his granddad who recently passed away. I told him my dad served during Korea. It’s not the same. “Do you really want to take orders from the Dementia Patient in Thief?” He just looked chagrined. Kids.
From a spiritual/moral perspective beyond the racist aspect, that same “hell on earth” awaits anyone joining now given the inherent immorality of having homosexuals and other perverts (who even enjoy favored status) in the ranks.
or the MIC in search of profits off the dead Americans sent overseas to conduct endless wars for their benefit
As a 33 yr retired combat Marine I feel exactly the same ever since the military collapsed morally and accepted Obama’s “social re-engineering” that began with welcoming homosexuals and other perverts into the ranks. That should have been met with the resignations of the entire JCS en masse.
This military social engineering crapulence was codified during the Clinton administration, pursuant to a certain Congress-critter’s declaration of internecine war against the American Warrior: “I want to hear the sound of a culture cracking.”
C.2000, Bush-the-Younger’s campaign promise to the US military that “help is on the way” quickly evaporated after his election, in favor of “the new tone” for DC, where PGWB did not properly broom the Clinton appointees (like ya do!), but left them in place to become career bureau-rats. This sector of the Swamp was the noxious-weed-patch later exploited and expanded by Obama & Co into what we have today.
Tommy Sees.
I agree—my reference to “collapse” was referring to what I regard as the watershed event in a negative progression that began much earlier.
Agree. Bannon and Erik Prince gave the flag officers hell on war room this a.m. They took no prisoners.
Based on Arizona Forensic preliminary hearing and reports from Georgia (whereby ballots were clearly run through machines multiple times), clearly we did NOT have free and fair election. Trump is not a stupid man… he mentioned votes switching during Romney election. I have zero doubt Space Force (cyber terrorist experts) captured all data before, during and after election. Why did Trump place Chris Miller, Ezra Cohen Whatnock in charge of Special Ops and place them at same level as all other military branches, what was Chris Miller talking about the most complex military op in history of man… I think they are taking the entire corrupt hierarchy down. Chris Miller had said to Pence that he has been a mentor in all this.. Is Pence really a patriot? I don’t know… I always thought Pompeo is a patriot.. I guess we will find out… but I do believe Trump is brilliant!
“Tell me again how we should “back the blue”, as we watch parents arrested at school board meetings. Tell me again that most FBI agents are good & legitimate, while we watch 15 agents investigate a NASCAR garage pull-down cord while ‘known wolves’ roam free and sexual predators rape teenage Olympic gymnasts. Tell me again. Please, keep telling me…. and when the order comes down to go door to door to collect citizens’ firearms, or to arrest citizens for wrong Facebook thoughts, or for refusing vaccinations, our local police and military will follow orders”… and I will say, “Tell me again”… ~Sundance
Milley has mental issues. A monster in every white bed.
Mental Milley
‘trying to understand white rage’, he says, his jaws clenched, his eyes burning with malevolence.
Colonel Jessup would love this idiot’s level of self-awareness.
<‘trying to understand white rage’, he says, his jaws clenched, his eyes burning with malevolence.>
Milley not lovin’ vanilli 🙂
That’s profound. Our military was surrounding the Capital to ensure the illegal takeover was protected from ‘we the people’. I hoped all along the military would eventually uphold the constitution and protect the return of DJT. So much for that.
By the way, anyone got a bridge for sale because I foolishly bought into the hopeium all along. Now I’m only left with despair. Anyone else got this sinking feeling? More so, anyone else got a solution?
Miley, a regular Dr. Strangelove.
The solution to pollution is dilution. That’s the G-rated version.
THE REAL MILITARY IS EXPORTED over seas or in training – kept from seeing/thinking what is happening to their families.
“the military” did not surround the capital. “the POG personnel” did.
Unfortunately I feel as you do. Nobody is coming to rescue the US. DJT tried. Succession of states might work…but I don’t think most have the stomach for it. ?
It must be terrible to be hopeless.
Try going to church and praying.
Take responsibility. It is up to us to take our country back. Start locally.
It must be terrible to think we can effect change. Look what is happening to the parents at school board meetings. Step up, put your career, marriage, home, kids, future on that chopping block with NO other people to stand with you. Go ahead. I’ve done it before. I was nearly expelled from law school for standing up for the unborn. Nope. You first this time.
I share much of your frustration at how the vast majority of “patriots” appear to be of the “summer soldier and sunshine patriot” variety.
I am even more thankful that our Founders and so many others were made of hardier (and more courageous) stock).
Indeed, a very great many “patriots” today appear unable/unwilling to even be inconvenienced in their comfortable lives to resist our enemies. Most cannot stop supporting (anti)social media like FB and Twitter or entertainment and sports that are clearly used by our enemies to advance their totalitarian agenda.
It’s very sobering to read what the some of the founders sacrificed.
No, not hopeless just realistic based on observed facts.
Well said. One reason I now attend every county government board meeting.
I think these negative Nancies are seeded on CTH now in an attempt to foment despair
Sad, but they will develop a stomach if they don’t fight for America, then they can listen to their stomach all the time as it has no food or water or anyone or thing to help you. If you do not fight this is what you will live with decide now how your stomach will be.
No sinking feeling.
With God all things are possible.
There are more of us than them. Biden was lucky to get 50 million votes.
President Trump got more votes than anyone in history, not even accounting for those that were stolen and flipped.
We must be strung and fight. It is war! The truth will be told!
Amen!
Patient! “ the best is yet to come “ has President Trump ever said anything that didn’t come true?
Keep the faith. As my late father would say: Do something even if it turns out to be a mistake. Don’t sit back and do nothing.
Each and every one of us has some form of agency. Whether it’s financially supporting the efforts of groups standing up to the tyrants (VoterGA, Look Ahead America), getting involved in local politics, creating local groups of like-minded people to educate and support one another, praying, calling, writing to or showing up on the doorsteps of our reps offices, resisting the mask mandates, discussing issues of the day with those who have a different viewpoint in a calm, reasoned way. Action will make you feel better. Our fellow Patriots and people around the world need us and our counting on us.
We cannot let fear or despair overtake us. God did not give us a spirit of fear but of hope.
This world will pass away, it has been written. Keep your eyes on the horizon which is eternal life. Jesus has already won the battle.
Excellent! Perhaps even some on here will take your admonishment/encouragement and stop supporting our (now) mortal —yes they do want us DEAD!—enemies when they still use (anti)social media like FB and Twitter as well as entertainment like pornographic Netflix or sports that are all controlled by these enemies.
I will not, however, hold my breath—the addictions to these “pleasures” are very strong.
Anyone actually studying the moral and spiritual decline of our military that kicked into high gear with the welcoming of homosexuals and other perverts into the ranks as I have done as a retired Marine officer would not be surprised by the either the failure of our military to “come to the rescue” (as so many in the Q thing naively thought they would) or these recent developments. Very predictable.
Gird your loins Steve.
WE ARE AT WAR – WE
WILL NEVER GIVE IN/
WE WILL NEVER GIVE UP. ????????????????????
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaheM5ptZjw
Let’s be clear, Joint Chiefs Chairman General Mark Milley broke his oath to defend the constitution and the people of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic. It certainly did not say, unless it interferes with arms sales by trying to broker peace agreements.
This General was willing to start wars. And, why we are on the subject of the general. I am not ready to believe that the military did not know that Communist China was accessing our voting machines across America before, on and after election day.
The military leadership was in on the steal. Hell they probably gave the CCP passwords and IP addresses
Excellent, right on point, one of Tucker’s best.
If ChiCom Joe refuses to leave office when it is proved he lost the election I assume these same military leaders will remove him by force when the order is given? Nonsense! Somehow I believe the US Military will support/protect ChiCom Joe and put a “steel ring” around the White House to keep him in office eating ice cream and destroying the country! Someone explain to me how ChiCom Joe can be removed from office when the Democrats control the Federal Courts, the US Military, the corrupt leftist msm, Big Tech, Big Social Media and all of Congress? What is the mechanism that will get ChiCom Joe/Kamala Harris out of the White House when it is proven President Trump won? TIA
Blockade DC. Use semi’s to block the bridges. Nothing goes in. Nobody gets out. BLM used their bodies to block freeways all summer last summer. Surely we can find some semis to use.
I believe the “General” needs to be reminded that TREASON is a HANGING offence….
S/F!
Regrettably, I believe the rule of law is merely an historical artifact now in all of our “justice system” including the military’s.
Sundance, The soft coup was accomplished just as you stated. Treasonous behavior has been seen throughout President Trump’s term and it has gone unpunished. The door to door strong arming of “we the people” has already begun in some states with the CHINA VIRUS experimental vaccines door knockers. I am of the opinion that these door knockers will be told to notate how each and every home owner treated them. Such as: were you yelled at, were you threatened, did you feel threatened, did you notice any NRA member stickers or other pro gun stickers on their windows, and so on. Then, I believe the local constabulary, fbi, or Homeland Security will receive “red flag” laws tips and the door to door smash and grab of our 2A rights will begin in earnest. Good God please bless our country once again with your Spirit of Reason coming upon our governmental officials to stop the evils that are rushing across this land.
Apologies, but this Deplorable is not capable of seeing things so dour.
“Find joy in all things.” James 1: 2
Our Lord never promised us Heaven on earth. Our Lord never promised us things would be easy. Quite the opposite, actually.
When one keeps one’s eye on the Prize – Eternal Life with Christ – one is able to endure anything. As always, Our Lord will chastise us for as long as it takes.
If we follow a Christ-filled life, teach our children about Our Lord, we will emerge from this stronger than ever, even if we end up in the camp outside the majestic city.
Meanwhile, we trust no one but Our Lord and His Word, and persevere.
Amen….. And its TRUE.
Yes, it is true.
Truth.
We also must be “wise as serpents and harmless as doves.” – Matthew 10:16 NKJV
the author of fear is NOT the Lord He says…it emanates from the Father of Lies…without Him and His grace, there can be no joy or peace without the imbuing of the Holy Spirit…confidence in the victory of God can relieve MUCH worrying…90+% of what we worry about we have NO power to change anyway so it is WASTED energy
Spell binding read Sundance! And your closing of tell me again rang like the liberty bell.
There is being out of ones lane and then there is leading a military out of its lane.
The latter is far more dangerous.
I wonder if Trump was bypassed when it came to the murder of Solemani in December of 2019.
I still remember him trashing the Iraq war and GW Bush in the Florida debate, and watching Yeb crumble even more. I knew he was the best president we could ask for in our lifetime.
I used to revere our officers. My dad and uncle were officers, navy and Marine Corp.
I am sickened by the sight of this cuck of a leader who has sold out his soul and made a false swearing regarding the Constitution.
He needs to be sacked for cause. That goes for the rest of these wokesters; Mattis is another one.
To the men and women at the tip of the spear, you have my gratitude and sympathy.
The funny thing is, that Gen Milley was not Secretary Mattis’ choice to replace General Joseph Dunford as Chairmen of the Joint Chiefs.
Sundance,
I had to think about this before putting it in writing. There are several law enforcement officers, active and retired, in my family. They are honorable men. They are just as sick of the corruption as anybody else is. I have never known them to compromise on their beliefs for the sake of a job. In fact, law enforcement officers have left in droves – some from the clutches of corrupt blue state Governors, corrupt and feckless District Attorneys who subvert their work, to go work in different states/counties/communities where their work is true, honest, and appreciated. Some law enforcement officers have left the work altogether, and just like us, are disillusioned and sickened by the politicization of Everything.
When you say you will never back the blue again, THINK about what you are saying. Our law enforcement has been grossly demoralized, threatened, abused. It’s all part of the globalist communists’ plan to destroy the Republic. There are real people behind those badges who honestly want to protect the public and their families.
Having said that, I’m not asking anyone to TRUST without VERIFYING. If there are corrupt District Attorneys, cops, or Sheriffs, in your community, boot them out! I don’t know any law enforcement officers who will go door-to-door like Nazi’s. They will quit and walk away before turning on their own families and communities. Hell yes, they’ll protect their communities!! The same is true of our Military sons and daughters. Most are suffering through the B.S. diversity training and the likes of Silly Milley.
Yes, there is a percentage, of which I don’t know, that will sell their souls. Satan has a way of attacking us at our weakest points. I’ve noticed with the covid vaxx, many people in my own extended family, have complied *because* there was something they wanted that they couldn’t have *unless* they were vaxx’d. I was shocked, but I’m wiser because of it. For some, they wanted to travel. For others they bought the lie that they’d be protected from contracting and/or carrying covid. For others they wanted to keep that job where the Employer demanded it. I’m incredibly disappointed, but I can see where our men and women in Blue might be coerced into making the wrong choices. I pray for them. I pray for all of us. The situation is dangerous.
In general, I see our affluent society, overall, as very weak, spoiled, feckless. But, since I know so many patriots who aren’t giving up on the Republic without the fight of their lives, I have hope.
Thank you for wise words!
Will you still feel this way when the jack boots in blue come to your door to arrest you for wrong think? If so we are doomed.
She and her family are in the protected class, she knows she won’t be arrested.
Just food for thought… If the military has been taken over, and they start to move on the people, who do you think will be the group that is the best armed and trained?
There’s a reason why the Police are being treated this way, it’s to weed out through attrition anyone who feels sickened by what is happening, so they can be replaced with people who would follow the feds.
If that is the plan, and that’s what they’re working towards, then you might want to think about how you feel about your local police.
Madame Peasant~~
While I agree with much you say, I disagree with your initial premise. Please show me where Sundance said this.
”I (you) will never back the blue again”
seems seeing we do not see and hearing we do not hear. During Trump’s campaign I was appalled seeing normal citizens being assaulted in front of the police while they stood and watched. Much of the trouble going on today is because we see those in blue hurting, even shooting people. Or do we? During the campaigns was it just the liberal police given the duty to stand and simply do nothing? Were the cameras told to just show them? I’d like to think the average police would not swear to uphold the law while simply letting lawlessness happen. The same goes for the shooting, killing while cellphones recorded it all. Was it a planned performance? People give their lives for much less? Remember suicide bombers? I’ve wrote I’m a conspiracy theorist so this might just be one of them but I wonder if seeing we’re not seeing what they want us to see and hearing we’re not doing the same. I can honestly say I don’t back the blue like I use too but I’m doubting as to why.
Although the core sentiment of your post is laudable; however, your statement: “There are real people behind those badges who honestly want to protect the public and their families.”, does not take into account the many LEO’s who have followed orders and arrested people and pastors for attending church, arrested people swimming in the ocean without a mask, officers forcing the closure of businesses that defy masking orders and orders to shut down their businesses. This does not even begin to touch the issue of police forces being ordered to stand down during year of rioting and carnage by BLM and Antifa. Granted, some officers quit the force; however, many just followed orders.
I live in an area where the LEO’s are known by everyone, generally on a first name basis. I doubt that these LEO’s will participate in such draconian measures as to force masking, force injections, confiscate firearms, etc. However, there is no doubt that at the state trooper level or National Guard level; many will follow such orders, because there is not personal connection.
And let’s not forget: “Biden administration would invite United Nations officials who investigate racism and human rights issues to visit the United States”. President mush mouth intends to push for an international policing force to perform certain duties that homegrown LEO’s may not perform.
Since the Coup has been allowed to stand by both Congress and the U.S. Supreme Court (and buttressed by the propagandist media): I expect that there will be nothing that this administration will not attempt to transmogrify for their own benefit.
>I know so many patriots who aren’t giving up on the Republic without the fight of their lives
Yeah, and when they do they get arrested and their lives ruined by those LEO in your family.
Sorry, but the time has come to fish or cut bait. If LEO are against what is happening, they must make a stand against it. A stand out in the open, for all to see. Instead of arresting Patriots, arrest those who give the arrest order.
Otherwise, your words are empty and we have had enough empty words.
Answer: We will not support any group. we Willl support cops/fbi/military/cia quitting to join personal security for America.
they have to make that courageous leadership step – to start the national discussion of what is happening.
RISK: “i was just following orders, doing my job” IS VERY EASY TO USE when you spend time moving the normalization bubble. make it normal to attack, to target, to deem a group not worthy of life – then it just becomes DOING MY JOB.
We need to encourage some NOT DOING MY JOB leaders. so by not supporting in totality – it lets us support in totality the ones that STEP OUT of the ORDERs.
Madame,
Thank you so very much for expressing what many of us on this board are feeling. I too have law enforcement and Military members in my immediate family and they are among the most honorable, decent people I have ever known. The sacrifices that have been asked of them both in a physical and emotional sense, are beyond what most of the public could ever imagine or bear.
It is absolutely vital that we not do what the left is doing by condemning an entire group based on the actions of a few specific members. Yes we need to pay attention and we need to make sure that those who are in positions of authority do not abuse it… but for those who are attempting to honor their oath to protect and serve, they need our support now more than ever before!
That’s right, we can’t look at the police as yet another group, we have to see them as individuals.
It’s all the same divide and conquer gambit, to pit one group against another, and we cannot fall for that.
We are going to have take blinders off and take an unobstructed view of reality. Most of us probably have LEO among our family and close friends. I’m sure many of them are good patriotic people who do not wish to participate in the slide into communism but at what point must they take action and risk their livelihoods in order to stand on principle? Do they allow the precipitous decline to continue until they placed under orders to seize guns or arrest wrong thinking? It’ll be too late.
Many of us have loved ones and friends who are educators too. Many of them are horrified by the CRT propaganda. However, if you are in the employ of the education system and you are subservient to teachers unions; if you are willing to go along with the CRT sewage just to save your job you have become part of the problem. There is not one bit of difference between you and the pedophile rings who groom and “harvest” children for evil. In the same manner, the LEO’s must make a choice sooner rather than later whether they will acquiesce to the incremental slide into anarchy. My guess is that more than we expect will betray their fellow man.
Martin Armstrong has commented that when the police side with the people, the tyranny is defeated. If the people can win over the police, then they can win. I understand not blindly backing the blue, because we have seen some truly horrible behavior with police letting violence take place, especially in the cities where the mayors told them to stand down.
The elite, as they style themselves, are nothing in themselves. They are completely dependent on their enforcers. If the enforcers, be they police or military, have sufficient character, they will not brutalize the citizens.
We should appeal to the police as individuals, and tell them that we are fighting for their rights, too. Tell them that they need to think about what kind of country their children and grandchildren will live in. We need to get them thinking beyond their paychecks and retirements.
Opposing the police, opposing the military is not a good plan. That plays into the “othering” that must take place before a person is able to become an aggressor upon people who are portrayed as subhuman and vile. I understand that at Tienanmen Square, the Chinese soldiers would not fire upon civilians, so the CCP had to bring in Mongolians who didn’t look like the protestors or speak the same language.
We have to be wise. The sheriffs are key people in this struggle.
SD writes”Factually, President Trump’s strategic approach toward foreign threats and foreign intervention (through the use of geopolitical economic pressure) was a major paradigm shift that removed the Defense Department from a primary role, and placed them back into a more appropriate ‘contingency’ role, when it came to foreign policy and national security.”
And of course reduced wars, translates to fewer arms sales for contractors. So the arms industry wanted President Trump out. Which means, the people like Joint Chiefs Chairman General Mark Milley are not concerned about killing your sons an daughters, in a few unnecessary wars to boost the bottom line. I believe President Eisenhower has a similar view.
On January 18, 1961, just before leaving office, President Dwight D. Eisenhower gave a farewell address to the nation in which he called attention to the “conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry.”
All that the commie left has said has been proven to be a lie based on a desire to take over the American government and destroy the US.
Now the left wants to us the military to achieve its goal of total power. We know have proof that the election was stolen so what is going to be done about it.
The commie left has almost taken over the school system in most states. All you rights according to the left can be removed when you don`t behave according to there thinking.
I repeat myself do not give any money to the rnc or rinos but only to MAGA or your cutting your own throat.
I just know for sure that none of these people from Milley on down would ever get me to back them when it came to going to war, This man showed he was a back stabber the day he said he was sorry for walking with the President of the United States to the Church that had been burned Now we know that he just didnt want the thugs he called Piece full protesters to see him They might think he had gone over to the right side and he might be in trouble
Traitor all of them and Mike Pence McConnell MCCarthy are the three biggest traitors this country has had in a long time May god show kindness to your Soul
President Trump is badly needed back in office, because frankly, the world leadership needs him there as well. There was an obvious order in the political world, when the real President Trump was in office. During the latest meeting of world leaders, that involved the imbecile fake president, instead of looking for directive leadership from the US, world leaders were too busy laughing at the clown pretending to be president. As for milley, in trying to show his displeasure with the military not being front and center in President Trump’s administration, he disrespected and dishonored his military oath. Milley is an embarrassment and every junior officer and enlisted, should ignore the idiotic garbage spewing out of his mouth.
Knowing this about the military how does it align with Q’s “military is the only way” posts? I don’t see the military coming to rescue us when the audits show massive fraud let along putting Trump back in office. I believe that most of the enlisted men and women are Trump supporters but they do not have the power, the officers do. After Vindman I began to question the role of the military in this coup.
Officers have power in so far as directing his or her troops on the daily units objectives. Enlisted vastly outnumber officers, so the power can be not what it seems. In reality, senior Non commissioned officers, more times than not, have much more influence on the troops than any officer could ever have. And also keep in mind, in the spec ops world, the operators are for the most part enlisted. So the power in an office, is not at all like the power out in the real world.
We should remember that ‘military’ is far more than generals and the rank and file who are active duty. Veterans outnumber them by more than 10 to 1 and with every day the CoC weeds out more patriots and removes them from active duty, more are added to that list. It’s not like their skills go away and if they had an oath to the Republic and COTUS, it lives on. Additionally, in the broader sense, we are the military, the militia. It was regular citizens like us who won the Revolutionary War.
The Communists succeed to the extent they have because we’ve remained steadfast in pursuing peace and law and order. They’ve yet to taste our rage and hate and the full measure of barbarism we can bring to their kind. That can change in an instant and they know it. Any of us whose families survived Communism have it forged into our souls. We never forget. A life for a life.
Anyone watching the Falun Gong rally in D.C. this morning? That’s one example of what Communists can do, and did, in China.
Well said. We are the ones we’ve been waiting for.
I go with theory that Q is a construct of the deep state, who’s objective is to cause those who might resist a communistic one party state to instead rely on the military to save us, which, of course, will not happen. It is up to us.
I wonder if Trump suffered from the same delusion I did in November 2016. I thought the “Generals” were patriotic men, who followed orders and wanted what’s good for the country. Now, after 4.5 years its obvious our Military leadership are just was Left-wing, corrupt, and political as the University professors or the News media. The same is true of the FBI. How many people like me thought Comey and Mueller really were “Life long Republicans” and “Men of Honor” in November 2016?
When I first heard that Pelosi had called up the Joint of Staff and told them to disobey any Trump order, i was outraged. Talk about Unconstitional! Now, I think it was the JCS that called Pelosi and tried to butter her up and get in good with her and Biden by trashing Trump.
Anyway, that’s been proven to be completely false. Everyone in DC, is corrupt and follows their self-interest and whatever the Left wing party line is. All the talk about “The Constitution” and “Traditions” and “Democracy” goes out the window the second anyone opposses them. Then its destroy them by any means neccessary.
Wait so Pompeo is a jerkoff too? I though Pompeo was an OK guy.
Pete – you’re a little late to the game ☺
Not everyone lives online 24/7.
Not everyone knows everything there is to know about everything/everyone.
Can you pick up on the opportunity to share what you know that you conclude Pete doesn’t know?
I was here the first day this tree started growing, way back when; your response to Pete is one reason I often don’t comment. I’m not stupid, but I know I don’t know everything there is to know, and sometimes–it just gets tiresome having my head handed to me in a straw basket.
Look forward to you sharing your vast knowledge and insight re Pompeo.
It appears to me that Pete was making a forthright and honest contribution to what he (mistakenly) assumed was a conversation that allowed him to ask questions.
Sharon – guess you missed the smiley face after my post. Take a deep breath. It was a joke.
Very cogent outline of the Trump Doctrine. How we miss it. As to Milley’s behavior, it makes one wonder if the Deep State Resistance has its own pension plan and private club meeting sites in plush gated areas. They certainly have their own vetted propaganda talking points.
“Donald Trump slams woke General Milley for coup imaginings” By M. Dowling, July 15, 2021.
Article: https://www.independentsentinel.com/donald-trump-slams-woke-general-milley-for-coup-imaginings/
The general exhibits ALL of the symptoms of someone of importance whose “CLOSET” has been breached and ALL of the skeletons discovered AND used for… …. …. ?
There was a time, in the not-too-distant past, when the U.S. military had one of the highest favorability ratings among its citizens.
Thank you, Milley (I refuse to use your rank) for helping to destroy that.
I used to say about 15 years ago that Walmart and the US military were the only two competent institutions in the United States.
Now I am not sure about either.
Another extraordinarily well written piece. Thank you Sundance.
Keep hammering it home! We are in an extraordinary time where the road forks and we must choose the right path!
A “YUGE” Thank You Sundance for explaining the How & Why of the Deep State’s influence on the American Gov’t & the rest of the World!
THIS is what happens when good people are complacent about others, WHO almost always turn out to be NOT QUITE as honest as themselves.
I am guilty of this myself, as I was always willing to give almost anyone a chance to prove themselves worthy & I got let-down many times over the years… SO in a way I can appreciate Donald J. Trump’s feelings right now!
THIS IMO is the most telling paragraph here…
“It seemed like CTH was alone in noticing the issues with the Pentagon and suspicions of Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, Defense Secretary Mark Esper and Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Mark Milley. However, a few days after the Mar-a-Lago incident, Col Douglas Macgregor expressed his own suspicions about the U.S. military attack in Iraq and Syria that paralleled our gut reaction. Macgregor stated he believed President Trump was being intentionally and “skillfully, misinformed”.
It’s often been said, it’s the enemy within, not the enemy without, that can do the most damage. Openly and covertly, our enemies within are doing their sabotage with little to no opposition, at least not from our “leaders” who seem to be in on the conspiracy too. It doesn’t need to be a conspiracy per se, it’s bees in the hive all acting in concert, it’s their nature.
Deep State has no limits in America, it includes our three branches of government, SCOTUS, our governing military leaders and most of the Blue States leadership. It will be a terrible satanic demon to fight — but, God willing — we just may win with Almighty on our side, by turning to Him for leadership and following the path He lays out. For too long we have allowed godless minions to rule. That day has ended.
It was concrete proof for me that the upper-level military leadership was corrupt when not only was Vindman not court-martialed, he was LEFT IN PLACE in the White House. What an insult to ur Commander-in-Chief! And it was deliberate! I believe the punishment for treason is hanging. It’s a justice that has been delayed for way too long.
If Oath Keeper’s founder (Rhodes) was an “informant”/”assets”/”undercover” as Revolver speculated, I will not be surprised he worked for Pentagon.
This is one of the best and most succinct descriptions of the Trump doctrine I have read. Thanks Sundance.
The Miley clip clearly demonstrates the general Miley is an extremist political ideologue. His statements reflect an almost lunatic exaggeration that could only come from a warped mind or a highly devious mind. It should be obvious to to all that it is very dangerous to have such a person at the top of military command.
The top military command is no place for political ideologue and especially lunatic political ideologues.
His loony rant reminds me of “Dr. Strangelove”.
It reminds me of the movie “Seven Days in May” where a lunatic military person tries to execute a coup. JFK allowed parts of the movie to be filmed at the White House because, it was said, he believed the premise of the film could become true – and it did.
Seven Days in May is on YouTube: https://youtu.be/DmPEjxVTPL4
So I did a little checking on this movie. It is an interesting movie, but I see that Rod Serling wrote the screen play. It kind makes sense since the theme of the movie is to make a controlling military over ride a anti-nuclear agreement with the Soviets.
Serling, a stanch anti-war, democrat that was pro AFLCIO, and McCarthy cheerleader would take such a position. Interesting, looking at today’s time, the intent of the President is not the same, but the intent of the Democrat Military is.
This is a nice piece of anti-war/anti-patriot piece of propaganda. Sadly all the players in this one are the bad guys. There is no hero in this film.
MR – I don’t know what movie you watched. Seven Days in May is about a wild-eye military general planning a coup against the president who was planning on signing a nuclear treaty with Russia that the general disapproved of. This is exactly what was going on in real life with our president and the military at the time. A military patriot found out about it, went to the president, and the rest of the movie is about how they stop the coup. No heroes? I’d say the guy played by Kirk Douglas is a hero along with the president. Burt Lancaster did a good job playing the bad guy.
“I’ve come to the conclusion that one can do a lot more about the issues I care about by changing the government than by pushing the issues.”
– George Soros, 2003
President Trump was ill prepared to sweep out the Military Rats Oballah installed during his reign and to reinstate the hundreds of generals and personal fired that were deemed impediments to their plans developed by the Open Society of subversives. President Trump 2.0 won’t make that mistake again.
“The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States”
– George Soros, 2006
“We are the ones we’ve been waiting for. We are the change that we seek.”
– Barack Oballah, 2008
Just more Democommunist projection. They are the ones that have been and are participant in a coup.
They are the traitors and seditionists.
The mentally ill marxist milley should be FIRED and thrown out of the military for not defending the Constitution. We have an INVASION at our southern border and the military does NOTHING! Criminals and illegals are breaching our border at will AGAINST the LAW and nothing can be done? This country has become RIDICULOUS! Milley should be put in front of the firing squad and shot as a traitor to America. The demoratts are a CRIMINAL CABAL that destroyed all three branches of our federal government and institutions. Milley is just another figurehead of marxism and CORRUPTION.
During the Korean war president Truman allowed Douglas McArthur to overreach to the point of almost getting into WWIII with China. Before and during WWII the Japanese military cowed the political establishment through assassination, bulling, and threats to conduct a war that almost would have meant the total destruction of the entire Island and its people.
Democrats may think the military are their friends now but cross them at your peril.
Douglas MacArthur didn’t “overeach to the point of getting into WW3 with China”. China attacked us in November 1950, and pretended they were “Volunteers” sent to North Korea. After lots of attacks and counter attacks up and accross the 38th Parrell, MacArthur in April 1951, responded to a letter from the House Minority Leader saying he disagreed with the “Die for a Tie” truman strategy. Af which point MacArthur was fired. And big Mac never claimed he should NOT have been fired. Because he disagreed with Truman’s Strategy.
I’d not compare Milliy to the Japanese military. Those guys committed Hari-Kari. Our Generals can’t even stand up to CNN.
The Industrialized Military Complex has long been the “wolf in the hen house.”
Gen Milley and EVERY military person associated with THEIR “soft military coup,” MUST BE COURT MARTIALED, PERIOD.
America, the Deep State Shadow Givt has been with us for many decades. AT LEAST as long as the JFK assassination. It Obama REALLY finished the job when he FULLY INFESTED EVERY federal agency with DS operatives, top down, bottom up. THAT was Obama’s REAL legacy.
Transformation of The FBI was completed by Mueller starting in 2005. His “5 up or out,” rule saw EVERY patriot agent and sector head replaced by DS operatives.
until EVERY federal agency is COMPLETELY PURGED of these DS traitors, WE HAVE NO COUNTRY
Problem is, once purged, who do we replace them with, as there is no one behind them being groomed whom we can trust.
The FBI should not be replaced. It is unconstitutional.
Sundance – excellent post. Then again, excellence is what you do.
This Milley clown is the worst of bad actors. He and his fellow joint chiefs:
Milley and his henchmen belong in Fort Leavenworth, breaking rocks in the hot sun.
If Trump couldn’t grasp what Obama’s lackeys in the military were doing; couldn’t replace them or take action to stop the, what does this say about his perceptions and abilities to recognize and engage a threat?
The only explanations is that he was willfully blind. Refusing to acknowledge sedition and treason within the Pentagon.
Or that he was purposely blindsided and mislead repeatedly. But what of his aides, Pence, the rest of the government. If this is true Trump was surrounded by disloyal RINOs all auditioning for the Brutus role. Again Trump couldn’t grasp something was wrong?
Finally, that DC is so corrupt, so grasping, so filled with self centered mental defectives that could only feel at home at an Anifa rally or Yale sociology weed party featuring the Rainbow Dildo Nutt Monkey, that you have Obama’s dream fulfilled.
So can we afford a president who can’t recognize the Barrs, Pence, McConnell and all other would be Brutuses?
Milley is a tool.
Yes, but who does he answer to? If not his Commander in Chief?
A tool in the wrong hands can be destructive.
It seems that General Milly has greatly exceeded the authority granted to the Joint Chiefs of staff granted by the Goldwater-Nichols DOD Reorganization Act of 1986.
How does he have the authority to oppose the President’s choice for the head of the CIA, communicate with members of Congress opposing the legitimate challenge to a fraudulent election. There are many more examples of his abuse of authority.
https://www.jcs.mil/About/
Today, the Joint Chiefs of Staff have no executive authority to command combatant forces. The issue of executive authority was clearly resolved by the Goldwater-Nichols DOD Reorganization Act of 1986: “The Secretaries of the Military Departments shall assign all forces under their jurisdiction to unified and specified combatant commands to perform missions assigned to those commands…”; the chain of command “runs from the President to the Secretary of Defense; and from the Secretary of Defense to the commander of the combatant command.”
We are in a cold civil war right now
So this is the clown who will lead his woke forces
Against the people of this country?
LMAO
I commented a few weeks ago when someone overheard a conversation on a plane between a conservative and a leftie. Upon getting up, the conservative was young 40s woman and the leftie was about 70 year old man. I noted to not think of age as wisdom. Someone 71 now (like this general appears to be) was born in 1950 and was 19 in 1969 (Woodstock and all the rest of that time) some one 41 now had first 7-8 years of life with Reagan as president. And hopefully with quality parentage, was raised as quality.
It continues to be true that the things being laid out in bright light are not things that are happening now. They are downstream from what has already happened— four months ago or ten years ago.
That is sobering and instructive….denial is not an effective way to deal with reality, regardless of how useful it may seem to be in dealing with the discomfort of niggling fear.
Will the day come when commenters are no longer using the word unbelievable? It will…when current events are no longer stand alone surprises in their understanding.
Hebrews 7:3 speaks of Old Testament Melchizadek as one who was “Without father or mother, without genealogy, without beginning of days or end of life…” None of these events are anything like Melchizadek: the history of today’s disastrous situation is quite observable and, on some days, the effort to take in the timetables that Sundance presents breaks my brain.
Bingo.
Thank you Sharon. This has been on my mind for some time. I could not find the words to say it.
I trust no one who takes a check from the government. The military will disarm, shoot us, and send us to gulags when ordered. The police will mostly do anything for their pension. And only corrupt people join the FBI, etc.
There are many on this board who receive Social Security, into which we paid for 45-60 years, including me……painting with a pretty broad brush, perhaps?
You paint with a spray gun instead of a brush. I am a 33 yr retired combat Marine and believe I earned the small pension I now receive. I am also an unabashed patriot who also sees what is happening to our nation at the hands of a growing number of “Americans” who have done NOTHING for the nation.
I feel zero “guilt” in taking what I earned and in so doing it in NO WAY blinds or otherwise compromised me in terms of my being a true patriot.
Might I inquire what you have done for the nation?
Don’t care what you did. You took a job and got paid.
I hold you in no higher esteem than anyone else who works nor should I. Frankly, you were well compensated. Every retired officer I know lives way better than the average American.
Being purposely obtuse is silly. Clearly I was referring to police, feds, active duty , etc. who currently take a paycheck. However I am now worried about the dependence so many have on government checks wasn’t really thinking about seniors until you brought it up.
“I trust no one who takes a check from the government.”
It is not purposely obtuse to take your statement as written.
Sounds like you’re having a hard day. Hope things get better.
Anyone that has spent more than a day in the U.S. military knows General Officers are politicians first and warfighters second. There have been rare exceptions but that dosnt make the rule. They are all confirmed by Congress…surely politics isnt involved- right? They have to go hat in hand to Congress for funding and have to smooze with the political class whose district that money will be spent. POLITICS. As far as Milley and the rest of the JCOS they have been infiltrated by the CCP/PLA. Chinas Whore Joe takes orders from the CCP so that means everyone below him follows Chinas orders. ALL YOUR GENERALS ARE BELONG TO US!
3 Soft Coup attempts with one successful.
This arrogant empty suit majored in Political Science at Princeton. In other words, he was indoctrinated in leftist religion at an early age. Capitalism and capitalists (Trump) are all evil.
Bravo Sundance, I got goose bumps reading this article.