Amid all of the election ramifications and discussions, Donald Trump Jr. outlined a thought today that has likely been on the mind of many, myself included.
I have spent a great deal of time thinking about this since the media began their insufferable onslaught and “president-elect Biden” narrative. The time has long past for President Trump to fully demand his executive cabinet members declassify the evidence outlining intrusive government surveillance upon not only himself, but all Americans.
CTH has a rather unique perspective on the declassification angle. This conversation has traveled with me for over two years as I have talked to people inside the machinery. Ultimately the discussion ends around something like this:
Is the DC political surveillance state, and all of the ramifications within that reality, so fundamentally corrupt and against our nation’s interests, that no entity dare expose the scope and depth of it? And ultimately… is it the preservation of institutions that is causing so many disconnected outcomes from evidence intentionally downplayed?
If we assume the scale of unconstitutional conduct has become systemic, that likely answers the questions. Personally, I believe this is the most likely scenario.
“Likely” meaning the entire apparatus, DOJ, FBI, Legislative Oversight and the Intelligence Community (IC), is now so enmeshed within this corrupt out-of-control state that no-one, even the good guys, is willing to expose it because the institutional collapse would be devastating.
This is what I would call the Biggest of the Big Ugly.
This catastrophic outcome, in combination with DC having made the system the primary source of their income, is what unites the Republicans and Democrats to stop anyone from exposing it. Once any elected official goes inside this system, they end up serving it.
All of that said, I have previously outlined a pre-election process for President Trump to declassify information that would lay the system naked to We The People. However, I don’t think post-election this will work, because the executive branch cabinet officers will refuse to support it. The enemies inside the gate will protect DC.
[OCTOBER 2020] Understanding the ordinary process of declassifying documents is a request and authorization to the executive officers and stakeholders of classified information; and understanding the current authorization is is not ordinary because the intelligence community stakeholders are adverse to the interests of the office of the president; here is a process to cut through the chaff and countermeasures.
The background here is that any unilateral declassification request, demand or authorization by President Trump puts him opposition to a variety of corrupt interests.
As a direct result the executive office of the president will be facing legal action, likely from unified democrats and republicans in the legislative branch. With that accepted, here is the most strategic approach.
In anticipation of litigation:
President Trump informs the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, John Ratcliffe, that he wishes to have a full intelligence briefing on the following documents (more may be added), all documents are to be presented without a single redaction:
- All versions of the Carter Page FISA applications (DOJ) (FBI) (ODNI).
- All of the Bruce Ohr 302’s filled out by the FBI. (FBI) (ODNI)
- All of Bruce Ohr’s emails (FBI) (DOJ) (CIA) (ODNI)
- All relevant documents pertaining to the supportive material within the FISA application. (FBI) (DOJ-NSD ) (DoS) (CIA) (DNI) (NSA) (ODNI);
- All supportive documents and material provided by Bruce Ohr to the FBI. (FBI)
- All intelligence documents that were presented to the Gang of Eight in 2016 that pertain to the FISA application used against U.S. person Carter Page; including all intelligence documents that may not have been presented to the FISA Court. (CIA) (FBI) (DOJ) (ODNI) (DoS) (NSA)
- All unredacted text messages and email content between Lisa Page and Peter Strzok on all devices. (FBI) (DOJ) (DOJ-NSD) (ODNI)
- The originating CIA “EC” or two-page electronic communication from former FBI Agent Peter Strzok: and all communication between former CIA Director John Brennan and FBI Director James Comey that started Operation Crossfire Hurricane in July 2016. (CIA) (FBI) (ODNI)
- The full and unredacted April 2017 FISA court 99-page opinion written by Presiding Judge Rosemary Collyer outlining the compliance audit conducted by the NSA in 2016. (NSA) (ODNI) (DOJ) (FBI) (DOJ-NSD)
- ADD TO THIS – Everything and Anything related to contracts, vendors, services and the intelligence apparatus connected to the 2020 United States election.
The President selects a date for this briefing and through direct orders to his chief of staff, Mark Meadows, informs the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, John Ratcliffe, to advise and coordinate with all executive branch lead intelligence officials, who were/are stakeholders in the compartmented intelligence products as described above, of their request be present for the briefing.
The White House counsel’s office is not to be informed of the intent or purpose of the meeting; however the Presidents’ White House counsel is requested to attend. Further, all of the compartmented intelligence is to be collectively assembled by the ODNI (Ratcliffe) into one volume of a singular Presidential Daily Briefing (PDB). There are to be eighteen printed copies of the PDB assembled and secured for the briefing, post haste.
Additionally, the office of the president personally informs the ODNI (Ratcliffe) of the executives’ request to invite for the briefing each member of the legislative branch Intelligence Community oversight known as the Gang-of-Eight.
Immediately after the briefing by the executive level (cabinet) department officials, while remaining in a closed and classified session, the full and comprehensive content of this collective intelligence product will be discussed with the full assembly of the U.S. Legislative Branch Intelligence Oversight known as the Gang of Eight.
Therefore, National Security Advisor Robert O’Brien is instructed to coordinate with the ODNI (Ratcliffe) for the attendance of the Gang of Eight: Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Minority leader Kevin McCarthy, HPSCI Chairman Adam Schiff, HPSCI Ranking Member Devin Nunes, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, SSCI Chairman Richard Burr and SSCI Vice-Chair Mark Warner. [Topic “TBD”]
In order to facilitate the briefing. Each member of the participating group will be provided with one full printed copy of the material assembled by the ODNI during the briefing.
[Each of the participants carries the prerequisite clearances, legal and constitutional authority to engage with the classified document according to their position and status. Only the executive can assemble the product for Go8 review and feedback]
At the conclusion of the briefing; and after hearing from, and engagement with, each of the participating members of the executive intelligence offices and duly authorized legislative oversight representatives; and after listening to their opinion as to the subject material discussed; the president announces to the fully assembled leadership of both the Executive branch (cabinet) and Legislative branch (Go8), it is his opinion the National Interests of the United States can best be served with the American people having a full, transparent and honest review of the material assembled and discussed.
The President, no-one else, only the President, then collects the printed portfolios as they were distributed to the participants, exits the briefing, and walks directly into the James Brady press briefing room within the White House; handing each of the awaiting twelve members of the national media a copy of the briefing material to be published on behalf of the American people.
At exactly the same time as President Trump enters the briefing room, one copy of the assembled portfolio is hand delivered, by President Trump only, to White House communications director Alyssa Farah with instructions to scan and release the content to the public through the White House website.
Done.
The American people are aware…
The system will now turn immediately to destroy Donald J Trump….
…..while we show up en-masse to support him.
For those interested in a thread on detecting likely fraud by looking at graphs, this is interesting:
Click on twitter handle to read the whole thread
For those doubting,
Yes, statistical analysis is used in court cases all the time. It is also the backbone of lots of scientific research. The “party of science” is going to be destroyed by science. Its too ironic.
Interesting is the word.
I read it early this morning. It was after reading it that I realized this is the only way to win. The data doesn’t lie. And the best part of this particular data is that it’s easy to understand.
The incidences of mail-in fraud and all the crap in PA will be enough evidence to go to court and then this kind of data, which will be found in every contested state, will be crucial.
Unfortunately, too late for the declass…half the Country won’t care anyways.
“Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”
John Adams
Never too late; the American People have a right to see these documents…no matter what.
100% of the thousands of people named and implicated in those document, including members of Congress, judges and bureaucrats, will care, and they will be terrified.
I think you are all missing my point due to emotions, think logically. I am not saying as a moral statement it is too late but a practical statement. He has tried to declassify documents for four years and has been fought tooth and nail. What makes you think he will get the bastards in the bureaucracies to declassify “everything” in 70 days? It is too late they will never do it in time and unless he prints them off himself and hands them out which is not realistic either it won’t happen. Sorry guys but it is not logistically possible.
Lastly, please look at my John Adams quote, unless the American people become a moral people as a whole these stolen elections and other disgusting acts against our side will not stop. We need to start working at the local level to raise newer generations to be a God fearing and moral people.
BULL.
It’s as simple as this.
Washington D.C. turned into the capitol of the World.
And forgot that it is the capitol of the United States.
Could not have been better said.
I say start with a declass of the classified three letter election sw fraud / MSM interaction documents now and hold off on the “old issues”.
TOTALLY…and don’t forget…IT WAS FOR SALE…Until President Trump came along…??
IMO these videos of the vote counts changing within seconds where the Republican votes go down by the EXACT number the Dem goes up seems highly suspicious to the point it could be enough evidence to launch a full election fraud investigation.
I would also hope that the Marshal service (please not the FIB) interviews the officers and all senior and junior software programmers of this Dominion software company ASAP.
These video IMO are very telling.
FOX NEWS is sliding down a slippery censorship slope into fakeNews oblivion.
“On Mark Levin’s show tonight what we saw was a total dropout of the audio all through the major claims of Biden’s theft of the election. The studio producer faded out from Levin’s talking points towards the last minutes of the show as he was speaking emotionally about God, freedom, religion, patriotism and loyalty to the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. . . . The sound was faded out and then they cut him off. Anyone notice this? Yet more censorship. Certain to hear from Levin if this is what happened and not a local malfunction.” ~ from a Mark Levin fan on another website. So far one person chimed in and claimed to have also seen it happen. If so then Levin will be leaving the network along with Judge Jeanine.
Yeah the coastal propaganda giants still think that they are immune from public opinion, high & mighty, unimpeachable, and untouchable.
Is Paul Ryan the person responsible for the suspension of Jeanine Pirro, the audio disruption of Mark Levin’s show and of course, the horrific display on Election Night?
So clumsy really, so ham-handed . . . go ahead, keep doing stupid things like destroying your customer base, the people “whut brung ya” to the dance . . . the viewers that made Fox News so successful, who turned on FNC every morning and then the coffeemaker . . .
left it on all day at least on one tv until bedtime . . . didn’t want to miss anything . . . even watched some shows at least twice each day . . .
It is so bizarre to see a network flout the customers, they have plenty of money from elsewhere, they don’t need advertising revenue, they don’t really need advertisers, especially those who support Trump or their customers who buy from those advertisers . . . just not a consideration anymore.
Can FNC keep their stock in good shape . . . will it drop down below 25 – maybe below 20 before the week is out? Selling short on your own stock and making money that way? But it doesn’t really matter to you how it affects the “little guys” who have stock in your company?
I just don’t understand what is the business model now being used where viewers are disregarded, even scorned and those who pay for advertising are not getting the viewers, so why should they pay what they have been paying?
Someone has to be the fall guy even if he isn’t the one entirely responsible – maybe the inside agenda was to put Joe Biden in but meanwhile they will punish Paul Ryan for telling people to do things that ultimately upset the viewers and lost advertising revenue. Maybe it is thought that they can make it up later, that there will be new viewers from CNN and MSNBC and elsewhere and they will cater to them at a lower cost and will recoup losses in the stock, bring it back up again.
Paul Ryan will be out, he can be the chump.
Your thinking in terms of business interests, when we are dealing with ideologues.
Not the phoney lip service “Conmunism”; ignore all the claptrap, whether its proletariate vs bourgerasie, or the newer transactional b.s.
All that is like the patter of the street hustler, pulling three card monte scam.
Its to distract the punters, thats all.
Remember, Ryan walked away from the Speakership, and took 40 Congressman with him.
Remember all the buerocrats who eagerly threw away their careers.
Its about a consolidation of power, in the hands of a small elite, for their benefit.
And preservimg the gains they have achieved, which have brought them SO CLOSE to ultimate power, and pushing the final 10 percent, is the goal.
EVERYTHING else is secondary. Hell they just murdered several million people.
Destroying a company or two is NOTHING, by comparison.
These people (CCP) round up dissidents and use them as a human organ donor bank, fer cripes sake.
THEY DON’T CARE,
Take the fervor of religious zealotry, combine it with the patriotism of soldiers charging a hill and getting slaughtered, and funnel all that into, instead a lust for absolute POWER.
Its not about the money, or the perks and priviledges, they are a by product OF the pursuit of power, NOT the reason FOR it.
Its the POWER itself. Hillary was absolutely GIDDY as she watched quaddaffi being executed, almost orgasmic.
Remember “its the economy, stupid”?
Well, with Global Conmunists,…
Its the POWER, stupid.
IMHO
The world doesn’t get it . . .
The American heartland destroyed Nazi Germany.
Dutchman…POWER these critters are going for is going to be VERY FLEETING…esp. when 72,000,000,000 show up and are armed…I daresay there will be some “flutter valves loosening into the Depends”….The 2nd Amendment…DON’T LEAVE HOME WITHOUT IT!!!!
Dutchman you are so right. It’s all about power
The only chumps are those who still watch.
Despite what BIG TECH and their BIASED LEFTURD FACT CHECKERS and the LYING LEFTURD ENEMEDIA and DUMBOcRATS in SELF DENIAL have been trying to tell you VOTER FRAUD has been ENDEMIC in this election and virtually EXCLUSIVELY in DUMBOcRAT States and Cities and virtually EXCLUSIVELY by ONE SIDE ONLY the DUMBOcRATS.
Chyna is their new master….
Murdoch wanted Trump out. This change is coming from the top.
“The sound was faded out and then they cut him off. Anyone notice this?”
I did not, but i was just listening and not watching at the time. I will have to check the DVR (it records that show automatically every week).
“leaving the network along with Judge Jeanine.”
My two hours of dedicated (live, not DVR)TV viewing during the week were watching her and the Greg Gutfeld show – where I could get my week’s summary of the news and comedy in one hour. I sometimes would also watch Watter’s World
We watched the entire show and there were no sound problems.
As for Levin and Pirro, or anyone else leaving the network, I’m betting very few, if any, will do so. Mostly because of the big paychecks and also because I’m sure they have non-compete clauses in their contracts that would keep them from doing a show on another network for a period of time, usually at least a year. Even though people like Hannity have more money than they’ll ever spend (Hannity is worth at least $100 million and that’s a low estimate, and Laura Ingraham is estimated to be worth about $70 million. Levin is worth far less, but still worth millions. Tucker is said to be worth over $10 million, but that’s an old estimate. No idea what Pirro is worth, but probably at least like Levin.) they won’t leave and will probably use the excuse that they need to stay to keep a conservative message on Fox.
The excuse doesn’t fly. How much would YOU sell your soul for?
WE have known for some time what faux is, and its obvious they are merely USING these “conservatives” to give fox a veneer, and that underneath Faux is worse than CNN, because their gaslighting has more effect, BECAUSE of the venner.
Hence, it was faux leading the gaslighting on election night, as well as the faux polls, lending substantiation to that gaslighting.
“Look, even Fox poll has Biden leading, so it MUST be true!”
Just like how it was REPUBLICONS who investigated and exhonerated Obomination, enabling him to claim a scandal free administration. “But, it was REPUBLICANS who investigated Fast/Furious, IRS/Tea Party, and Benghazi! AND, they DID reveal some “bad stuff”, so when they find nothing to see here, folks,…just a few bad apples, it MUST be true, right?”
People…EVEN IF YOU HAVE YOUR FAVORITE SHOW, EVERY TIME you switch on that channel…The CABLE CO is RECORDING THAT box as a NUMBER and sent to FOX for total viewers…STOP WATCHING FOX…
Don’t know about the rest, but I don’t think Mark Levin does that show for the money. He wanted to get a show out to the largest audience possible with a format that allows in-depth discussion of a topic without 2,3 or more people talking back and forth and interrupting each other. He had Levin TV for awhile, but needed to be on a platform with millions more viewers. He and Hannity are friends, but I think the reason he chose to go on Fox was for the viewership.
Here in Missouri, we did not see DJT on Levin’s show – only Ken Starr and Hans von Spakowski (sp?). Schedule snafu?
It all sounded completely fine at my house in MO
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/fox-news-heirs-wife-kathryn-murdoch-calls-trump-dictator-tweets-fox-news-declares-biden-winner/
Yes, her husband resigned a couple of months ago, but he’s still a Murdoch.
Obombie, Reptillary and CIA Operation Zero Footprint overthrew Tunisia, Yemen, Egypt and Libya > 250,000 massacred > LibyanWartheTruth.com
Obombie, Reptillary and CIA Operation Timber Sycamore shipped Libyan weapons to ISIS in Syria, killing 500,000 > reported in 2015 by a more honest, now felonious Fox
“Incident at Benghazi” > Tales of American Empire
There’s Hillary with one of her future victims.
We’re hovering over the target folks ….
Bongino said on Friday he has to make a difficult decision about Fox too. It is making him and his wife sick, but they know what needs to be done.
We have been censored by All major media outlets for Years. Its been obvious. They are acting more desperate during this election cycle
I wish the last few decent news actors would leave all on same day and let the ship go down.
Give me a break. There is no excuse for this to go on. This would not be the first time something this had to happen. Remember when 3/4 of NYPD narcotics division was arrested? How about LAPD in the 30’s to 60’s? Then again after Rampart and Rafael Perez. If it has to come down, then so be it
The media will burn the info, except possibly OAN and Newsmax.
And in addition to that, they’ll say that Trump is only doing it to attack Biden because Biden won the election. At this point it’s too late to have the impact you’d want to have with that information.
This was POTUS’s reason for not declassify… Leverage to stop the future steal.
President Trump ALREADY declassified ‘everything’ and more or less received bupkis from the Deep State Subversives littered throughout our Leviathan Government
Incorrect! POTUS “authorized” Barr to Declassify everything; POTUS did NOT ORDER Barr to declassify everything. Understand the difference?
Nor did PDJT’s authorisation to declassify specify that he HAD to declassify, just that he COULD.(is that what you meant?)
In retrospect, I wonder if that was an early test, which Barr flunked, telling PDJT what he needed to know, re Barr.
IMHO, when PDJT first said “Durham report”, he was signalling that he knew Barr was nothing, and Durham was a headfake, but he may have known much sooner, even from day one.
Focus first on winning the election as we only have until Dec 12 PERIOD!
Now I’m all in favor of declassifying everything about the Hammer and Scorecard programs and also if Scorecard is anyway connected or has access into Dominion.
The world needs to know this so declass hammer, scorecard and dominion but do not confuse the masses with Declass Russia Collusion.
PT can always do that after Dec 12
I agree – I think that makes excellent sense –
after the election is squared away, maybe we can revisit the Church Committee.
I have heard all of my life it seems about the CIA meddling in the elections of foreign nations – and all kinds of horrible things that we have no business doing.
Why do we even need the CIA as a separate organization?
Always respected the CIA and the FBI when I was growing up but I think the way they have been doing things the past few years they seem to be working against Americans and the American way of life –
I saw this somewhere else – maybe here on the Treehouse – what is the possibility of having US Marshals take over domestic law enforcement –
and then the CIA operations should be taken over by Military Intelligence to protect us in the world against foreign threats, whether we are engaged in war or not. Lean, mean fighting machine where all the information is at hand for ready response, working with the President in protecting our country.
When I think that George Washington was so great as a Spymaster in an endeavor to get some kind of edge when the Continental Army needed that . . . would he not be appalled to see “intelligence organizations” that are SUPPOSED to protect us – like the FBI and the CIA – are instead being used against individual American citizens?
Dear God, we need help! Please help us to be righteous as a nation to be pleasing to You, to not fall into traps, slavery and oppression by people who apparently hate what makes America great.
Not all these layers of weird people like John Brennan who looks all the time like he is smelling poop.
We do not have until December 12.
See, Bush v. Gore.
Won’t POTUS have to declassify that particular info for court evidence? Otherwise it would be useful…
“Wouldn’t”
Bogey- AGREE. Now is not the time to go anywhere near the Declass.
It would be nothing but a huge distraction plus our President Trump simply does not have the resources to go to war on a second front. He has been betrayed by so many insiders that he barely has enough good and trusted people to help him win the re-election battle.
Right now it’s all hands on deck for the next few weeks. There is no time to waste on the complexities of something like the Declassification. Focus is key.
I would like to know who has control of the hammer/scorecard system.
Is it one of the IC agencies, a rogue sub set of one of them or has it always been and still is belonging to and controlled by civilian contractors. Who the **** has all this power to totally disrupt
things. If ever there was a need to turn some location into a mud hole of blood and dust this surely is it.
I agree Bogeyfree. we have to stay lazier sharp focused and expose the election steal first. Ms Powell said she’d bring the Hammer/Scorecard in if neccessary.
Agreed stay focused on the reelection
So, say he does declassify everything….will it matter to anyone but us? How many laptops of Hunter’s are there now? What has been done with all that corruptness? They’ve swept it under the rug!
I think he needs to concentrate on exposing everything about this election being stolen, get that won and then start knocking them all off one at a time…or 10 at a time!
He should do a televised address to the nation with facts spelled out for the unenlightened.
At this point the networks would simply collaborate and refuse to broadcast it, and laughingly say “What are you going to do about it?” Yes, they are that bold and yes they do despise us Deplorables. What are we going to do about it?
The “networks” – CNN etc – bark a lot, but dont have any teeth. This is going to be resolved by the courts.
President Trump sits down at the big desk and “hits the switch” on the Emergency Broadcast System….presto….if it still works, he’s in EVERYONE’S livingroom….
The “popping sound” you hear is NOT buttered popcorn…it’s Dem’s heads….going Splody – Spoldy… Just MHO….
Charge and arrest them first. The tv idiots will have a hard time ignoring it.
Indict them all and then indict any actors interfering for obstruction of justice! We already have the playbook, from 2016-2018 with Mueller et al.
THE single problem is right now the Some had a stronger show of force this summer than RS have had bc Rs keep hearing to just wait and after FOUR YEARS OF “WAIT FOR IT” THEY’RE STILL EATING MOUNDS OF BULLSHIT INSTEAD OF BURNING IT ALL DOWN!
He still has the emergency thing on your cell phone he could message everyone to tune into one that would cover him. Had to laugh when thinking of all the missed book sales by people at Fox who are always peddling them…really bad Christmas sales they were depending on.
Half the population doesn’t believe a word he says!
True but at least 70plus million do believe. So at least we will know. Other people can choose for themselves. But the information is made public. At this point I don’t see an alternative.
If you take out the voter fraud its much less; probably 30%
Jesus !!!
You know it will
Imagine their investors, competitors!!!!
Trying to determine if they got screwed.. got a fair cut…
It would be a John wick shoot out amongst themselves
They think POTUS will bend over due to the pressure! They have been doing this like a job for decades. Fools to not see once we were purged, we protected America still.
I’m here to say…. I’ve got John’s back….
My greatest pleasure would be to pour lead onto targets in such a “meeting”…
At the Continental ???… All I need is the basement supply room combination and I be one happy puppy (along with the pit bull)… I have got to have me some of those 12 ga rounds for 3a+ … navarna…
Thinking the election fraud could create the same dilemma.
“because the institutional collapse would be devastating.”
The great assumption. So what if institutions
collapse. ATC was fired by Regan, military stepped in and replaced them until a new batch was trained. What institutions would suffer? FBI CIA DOJ these are the compromised institutions supporting Congress keeping their indulgences.
The only thing they’ll expose is America is no different than other countries doing the same thing.
It’s not the big ugly, it’s the big lie and Congress sells it every day.
Yes …We wouldn’t miss a one of those agencies..not one.
Don’t limit your nightmares exclusively to dead people. As the photo above from “The Sixth Sense” indicates, votes could materialzie from ineligible children, too. For in-person voters, all that’s needed are adults willing to take a small risk of getting caught and a lack of challengers at the polling place and election tabulation centers. Such fraudulent voters only need to be directed to the correct polling places, with the right kids’ names and proper residential addresses, and with the proper people already in place to accept and affirm their vote.
I don’t think the Go8 would even show up to the briefing with Trump that SD outlined. Then what?
Did the GO8 consult Trump;
before rigging Election 2020?
Turn about fair play. 😉
He locks the door and hangs them
The declass card is all about leverage and a big game of chicken at the same time. They’ve spent 4 years saying how “unhinged” and dangerous he is.. 25th amendment etc .. now he has nothing to lose at this point.. do they really want Trump in a position of having nothing to lose with all of the dirt he has on them? I think not.. re-election is more important than declass at this point in time.. (IMO) Then, he can drain the swamp over the next four years and manage the damage. But what do i know.. i’m just a disgusted citizen appalled by all of the corruption of these traitors.
My hope is that he has exhibited superhuman patience on pushing indictments for Russiagate etc because he is saving all that energy for this. This election. I have all but given up on Barr, but maybe, just maybe he’s been saving himself for this.
Then he (Barr) saved himself too long. It’s now past the point where indictments will be seen as anything other than retaliation by Trump for losing the election. The media will claim any information used in the indictments is false and will refuse to give any credence to the indictments, they’ll just say it’s Trump’s attempt to destroy them because he lost. He has to win the election first before indictments will have the needed impact, and even then it’ll still probably be said by the media that it is only sour grapes on Trump’s part.
Bullsh*t
Safe harbor contains no provisions regarding indictments. Lock em up, stall for a month, in the bag; more “legal” than any dim scheme.
Fact is, a show of FORCE is all the other side understands. You can’t TALK a wolf pack out of a meal, you CAN kill the Alpha. Show me the last time they didn’t push the limits of plausible deniability. Violenta is the only language they speak.
I’m sure declassifying everything now will do a lot of good in 2 and a half months. By the way everything Barr and Durham have been doing will go “poof”. Great job, republicans.
Republicans are dead to me. As are the Democrats. We have this DJT MAGA party – America First Party. And we have a lot of loud , violent extremeists on the other side.
The only thing, ONLY thing, that will fix this is Trump put in the White House through a court decision.
It will cleanse this nation and shatter our corrupt government, smash it to pieces.
You want a prayer? That’s it! Lord bring about a Supreme Court ruling that will expose and destroy the works of the enemy in our nation, that will bring justice to our elections. What the enemy means for harm Will be turned for good.
Because nobody Will give a damn if nothing comes of this, and if this is exposed Your looking at a hollow useless apparatus that was a criminal cartel. Telling this to the nation holds no weight without a court ruling. And serious prosecutions with jail.
When it goes down as predicted, this nation will be exposed and the people will see all as is, especially themselves. Revival will burn through our nation like a grass fire on a Texas prairie in August.
You’d be amazed what you can accomplish in 2 1/2 months if you try! Aren’t we entitled to see these documents as Americans?
CPS — You sure are eager for the Docs! this is like your fiftieth repeat of your comment. What are you, a Chinese/Soreass operative? Have never seen you in these parts before. GTFO of our treehouse.
All day, all night, CPS posting about this – and only this – all over the threads, since he appeared. Almost like it’s his job. Pffft!
I thought we are entitles to see the documents as well. In fact much of what I have learned has been through Sundance revealing through documents on this site. Keep watching and sharing here. I question that many trolls have numbers following their names on other sites. I am not sure Lurker360 owns the treehouse, but if he does then this site is no better than the rest.
I don’t own the treehouse, but I do not tolerate trolls and spammers. This individual is new to our site, and posted relentlessly the SAME COMMENT over and over.
If that does not stick in your eye, then you have not been around long or do not pay attention. Treepers who comment are working to break down and understand reality.
We might push an idea or insight a couple of times, but not dozens.
Contribute to the heavy lifting, if you have nothing salient to add, then fell free to lurk and learn, otherwise, GTFO.
We don’t need folks wasting our time with repetitive comments that are not constructive. BTW 360 means “every direction” meaning situational awareness.
It seems to me that you trying to get people to leave this site which results in us being less informed is suspect of insider sabotage. I don’t stalk people, therefore don’t maintain a log of names and their posts. I reviewed what the person you attacked said, and I found no suspicious activity on their part, before I replied.
On Dec 14 the electors vote… if and that is a big if…..
Up to now every time the Deep State has been lying to PDT.. the reports, FBI… DOJ…
If nothing gets done by Dec 14… it’s over… Barr, Comey, all of them succeeded in slow walking …
Any attempt after Dec 14 will be classified by MSM as a FRAUD or petty Revenge…
I for one don’t like this uncertainty.. all DC lied to him… the Supreme Court has shown to be questionable.. if you had one chance to expose it all and did not do it…. …. enough
MAGA
The nuke button. We’re almost there.
Just say’n… ?
71 million Trump supporters might
present you with a bottle of ketchup.
Think: Amy Coney Barrett and Nuclear Option.
Remember, it was Barrett who declined to take part in the SCOPA unconstitutional rules change.case. The result was a 4:4 tie in SCOTUS which opened the door for PA’s rampant fraud, She is unreliable,
She did not decline; she was not in her position yet during the
briefings, etc. so she did not vote I believe that is the acceptable
protocol.
Who at the Supreme Court fast tracked the decision making
process prior to her taking her seat?
She was not seated at the time of that decision. Fake news.
tappin52 and amjean, if ACB was not fully sworn in to the Supreme Court THEN I APOLOGIZE . I FELL FOR THE FAKE NEWS !!! SORRY MY BAD. AND THANK YOU .
David V I Could ring her neck ! Straight out of the gate ACB pulls a Sessions job!!!!! WTH. I don’t give a damn about her crappy excuse of not being able to read 100 pages in a weekend!! What?. BULL CRAP !!! She is supposedly a legal GENIUS with a steal trap memory to boot, as she showed during her hearing when lifted her blank note pad.
We are here BECAUSE SHE RECUSED !!! Nothing was more important for this country than her weighing in on this issue. Not happy with her, this is my opinion.
Hope to God she doesn’t pull this crap again.
There was a reason Hillary said that if that bastard wins we all hang…this may be it.
Okay, if Don Jr. is talking about declassifying, it means his dad has at least some of the goods ready to drop….if we are still talking about acquiring declassified documents from the intelligent agencies, well, thats not going to happen anytime soon
Perhaps he is talking about it so we citizens will shout that we
want the info – all 71 million plus voters!
While we are at it.. time for the Kraken…
Set up special council to investigate Hunter, Joe, Jim corruption..
Proving the MSM lied about joe’s dimentia need to be more public also.. who decided Joe Biden was to be president… Barry Hillary who else…
MAGA
Who is Don Jr. saying this to? And WHAT is he telling them? WE are not the audience. He is showing them a finger poised over the red button. What action on their part is he attempting to bring about?
Telling them to say there were mistakes! Glitches!
This is saying you got one out
I understand what you’re saying but there are too many moving parts.
I think our attention should be on uncovering the voting machine fraud. The tallies were changed with large dumps in the middle of the night and should be easily audited. If those large dumps can be audited in each of the contested states, it would drastically change the results in Trump’s favor.
Then he can release the classified material. And if he doesn’t get intelligence support, he can fire them and put Grenell in charge at least on a temporary basis.
I’ve been thinking about the “proof” for a couple of days. We need – and Trump’s team as well – to focus on the voting fraud where we have the most to gain.
Save the election and then drop the hammer. Literally drop the hammer.
No — Shock and Awe. Release the Kracken. Let the Dogs OUt. Hit them with everything — make the fight on all fronts.
Let’s say he does decide to release it. Who will broadcast it? Twitter and FB will censor it. They’re already considering removing him from Twitter or heavily restricting him. What then?
If they didn’t pay attention to Biden being in bed with China, what makes you think they’ll listen? The media’s MO for weeks has been “if we don’t report on it, it didn’t happen”.
He needs to win the election. If he doesn’t, none of it matters. He can force them to listen later but he doesn’t have many options now.
I really don’t understand the vengeance distraction. We need to win the freaking election!
I hope everyone has reported Joe and kamala’s tweets and also tagged their reps in an attached post. They are blatantly violating Twitter guidelines by misrepresenting their positions regarding an elected office. A clear example of election interference as defined by Twitter. Surely they should evenly apply their rules.
Hell will probably freeze over first.
I hope they have a court order to not touch any of the evidence. Can you imagine the scrambling going on…..they probably had the aftermath planned as well. Maybe a computer analysis will show if anyone tampered with computer after the counts finished.
Just say’n… 😉
71 million Trump supporters might
present you with a bottle of ketchup.
Think: Amy Coney Barrett and Nuclear Option.
71 Million?
Wouldn’t be surprised if it was 100 Million after all the Hammer/Scorecard flips done electronically
Tough to see unfolding before my eyes. Unclassifying is good for posterity. And when he wins the recount battle.
I say that because Barr ran out the clock.
I do not know when he is going to let go those Cabinet members not loyal to him. Perhaps he is waiting until after he wins?
Keep your enemies close.
Our president is beginning to resemble a real GOP-er. Losing with dignity has always been their fashion.
Heres a thought Trump asks Radcliff to put it on 20 protected thumb drives instead of binders. Gives 8 to folks with top secret clearance and sends them on there way then he meets and with the crew and asks them what he should do? (Please record the response) then have radcliff collect the thumb drives declare declass tweet facebook parlar and gab the acess code to the world. Make his anouncement and toss the thumb drives to the media. They will assume they have the scoop and control of the message. Watch how fast they get out to beat the others to the draw. Of course by the time they find out there is a password on line everything will be 9n scibe and off shore bet you gtv would have a home for it. Wikileaks would have been great but i think the CIA owns it now.
Just a fantasy…I suppose
To those who think this was a ham handed play… We live i a vacum we xo t onow what is going on or what that simple tweet means to a hope host of trump enemies and allies.
Perhaps trump will just put it on the big screen at his next rally and tell everyone to take pictures.
One more.thing Sundances list is based on what we know. There may be a big basket of stuff that is election specific that needs to be declassed because of source and methods.
As a country we know they can listen to everything and collect every data stream, letting that cat out of the bag to put a coup down is about as significant as cloaking the cost of an Fbi acting director’s meeting table.
Print or download extra copies and hide offshore, along with even more horrendous info.
Make it known that the worse stuff comes out if anyone disappears.
Even Whitey Bulger had at least 6 safe deposit boxes the FBI never found.
Or at least reported.
Ocelot, you are very very concerned about this, aren’t you?
There’s no concern-troll in Ocelot, if that’s what you’re implying.
I’ve been thinking the same, but I’m too tired to frame the issues as well as Ocelot has.
PT playing their game…….
From the TWP article…..
“Now that the election has been *independently called* for Joe Biden, we look forward to the GSA Administrator quickly ascertaining Joe Biden and Kamala Harris as the President-elect and Vice President-elect,” a Biden transition spokesman said in an email.
*independently called* WTF is that meant to mean.
BRAVO! There will be NO TRANSITION while there is NO CERTIFICATION, and such OBVIOUS FRAUD.
Get the election squared away first. Then, fire Wray, appoint Grenell as acting, and let him have another declas festival, like he did before…
It is my humble opinion that this tweet is directed at the voter fraud more than RussiaGate. It would seem pertinent to the now as opposed to before. Now being voter fraud and the proof they have if it. It also seems that Don Jr is directing this at a particular audience ….. perhaps those who perpetrated the crime! It could be an incentive to those who want to get ahead of the fallout by cooperating.
Coincidentally (or not) Saint Preet tweeted today that the 25th could still be used to remove Trump.
What president do you know of who was removed from office
after an election prior to the inaugeration on Jan. 20th?
Yes, but remember ‘This is not NOOOOOORMAL’! Norms and rules are over.
In the beauty of the lilies Christ was born across the sea, With a glory in his bosom that transfigures you and me:
As he died to make men holy, let us die to make men free,
While God is marching on!
Like a mighty army moves the church of God;
Brothers, we are treading where the saints have trod.
We are not divided, all one body we,
One in hope and doctrine, one in charity.
Onward Christian Soldiers, marching unto war,
with the cross of Jesus going on before!”
Take heart, troops!
Do not let Satan’s dismay, demoralization and depressing fog come over you.
This is a spiritual war and we MUST fall to our knees or we’ll die on them.
…but if we do die, Glory Hallelujah!
We will see our Saviour and King, Lord and friend,
our first love,
our Lord Jesus Christ!
Gloria!
Amen!
AMEN
“Declassify Everything”
Works for me.
Seems to me this is an unusual tweet, for Don jr. Not that I follow all his tweets, but I am pretty sure he can do strategic teeeting, just like his Dad.
Wonder if its tweeting with a specific purpose, and perhaps a specific audience?
Not US, but THEM?
I agree with those who say not now, settle this election business, first.
And, I am not sure Sundances scenario would work. I can see “6 ways from Sunday” how the intel community could check him.
Frankly, not sure the POTUS actually CAN order what Sundance suggests, and get compliance. He SHOULD be able to, but in reality,…I just don’t think so,…
And the idea of being briefed on all of that information in one sitting is patently absurd.
The idea of having it all in one binder is also crazy talk. Sundance, you give these folks way too much credit. They’re not that smart, and not necessarily all speed readers.
With so many leaks over the past four years, why can’t some relevant documents be leaked? Heck, who would investigate?
if the audience were “them” and not “us”, would that not occupy their minds and distract them from our efforts to True the Vote.?
Congratulations, President Trump, on your 2020 victory over the forces of evil. Please G-d it will soon be recognized as reality, and the process of making America great, and healing world trauma begin in earnest.
Could we at least have Michael Atkinson’s deposition transcript?
Pretty please?
Will get to the declass point further on…
I remember Mad Maxine on TV stating that Obama had a Hammer and knew everything about everyone, so was all powerful, invincible. That was a moron letting the cat out of the bag.
The Hammer (program) with Scorecard as an App can go in and automatically tweak voting totals as they are moved online. Some refer to it as fraction magic. The whole (corporate owned) voting system is online and is vulnerable from many angles. The physical cheating is one thing, but having Scorecard flipping every upload by 3% is where the real (biggest) fraud took place. (Approx 2,100,000 votes)
Now, I’m sure Trump and Co. know all of this. They purportedly have evidence and testimony from Dennis Montgomery, the genius who devised either or both of these programs (apps) for the US Gov’t.
The election was also reportedly secured using blockchain (like bitcoin).
Now, Hammer and Scorecard evidence would by necessity have to have been in real time and using very sophisticated systems which by their very nature would have had to have been Gov’t systems. Perhaps CLASSIFIED Gov’t. Systems??? Thus the evidence is likely also CLASSIFIED.
Lady Sid has alluded to Hammer and Scorecard, but has not released any evidence. Don Jr. may be getting tired of the BS, and wants to drop the bomb that opens the biggest cheat wide open.
I would not be surprised if ,with Montgomery’s help, they surveilled and recorded every Scorecard flip that occurred during all of the vote counting.
Now, then why bother the laborious process of all the other electoral malfeasance? Because that shows a CONSPIRACY of grand proportions. Just dropping Hammer/Scorecard evidence could allow ONE or two operational people to become the fall guys for everything.
Rolling the whole mess of every point of physical and digital fraud into one RICO burrito exposes the biggest fraud on the American people: Theft of the office of President that was dutifully granted to Donald Trump by an overwhelming vote of WE the people. Russiagate is a mere diversion compared to this.
Trump is not the only aggrieved party here; the voters, AND the other candidates who may have been cheated are all party to this. Why did most congress critters escape this attack? it was strategic to keep their concern levels down.
Now, why focus on all the widespread peripheral cheating? because it also had a huge impact, was criminal, but it also involves a lot of people doing things that EVERYONE can understand. Hammer? not so much. Too techy for many to grasp.
Also, going after everything gives the story legs, as developments roll in.
Don Jrs. Tweet shows a bit of weakness (frustration) which may be strategic: Sun Tzu advised it is good to appear weak when you are strong. I think the Trumps and Company are toying with the slimy, morally-impoverished swamp rats who have done this and so much more to America.
First make every effort to count every lawful vote.
Settle that and then it will be time to deal with insurrection, foreign infiltration, unregistered foreign agents, and resulting instances of sedition; perhaps even treason should treason become apparent.
First count every lawful vote. Let that result be heard loud and clear.
With that work done, unleash the counterattack in all its comprehensive and unrelenting fullness.
Round up the election racketeers and election lawbreakers, corporate principals, infiltrators and unregistered foreign agents, and the major funders and their corporate principals among the NGO’s, foundations and media companies and the respective employees who have operated this conspiracy against the People of the United States of America.
We all very much want and need uncorrupted, competent and transparently lawful election administration and vote counting.
Don’t forget what happened in 2018. It’s still in force:
https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2018/09/14/2018-20203/imposing-certain-sanctions-in-the-event-of-foreign-interference-in-a-united-states-election
Gliss, Agree.
no — no prioritizing. IT is time to hit them with everything all at once. Shock and Awe.
THey are counting on us playing nice. No more Mr. NiceGuy
Susan,
Appreciate that you want to fight and win, I’m with you 100%!
Unfortunately, the American people will not digest any of this if you give them more than they can manage to chew.
Also, what you suggest, it’s “Blowing your wad” so to speak, so you drop everything on the public, perhaps it’s over their heads or too much at once, and they don’t respond.
THEN what? Your gun is empty and the bad guys are still on the loose. Not strategic at all.
Perfect. Legal and in the best interest of the people. Maybe add a separate page upfront with the home address / 2nd home address / 3rd home address / 4th home address and name and cell phone number of the G of 8 humble servants of the people. And how many private jets / boats they have.
If you haven’t see this, you need to. I kid you not, he’s the foremost historian of flamethrower design and military use, particularly WW1. It starts slow but be patient. He describes the savagely effective principles of Elastic Defense the creation and use of Tiger Pits, and the expert training and technology that made them the most effective form of counterattack, with reference to strategic battle unfolding before the American people and the counterattack that has not begun but soon enough will.
First we count the legal votes. Then comes the rest in a most timely and strategic way.
In this guys other videos he talks about CISA. But CISA will not get involved they do not look at Americans steeling elections from Americans. CISA only looks at international vote manipulation. CISA is basically a useless fraud.
Tammy Bruce made the point on Steve Hilton’s show that there is only about 60,000 votes between Biden & the President spread over 3 states. I think PA is a win for the President given the SC case and indications from some justices (ie they think the PA SC was wrong). So that does not leave much to pick up —with all the fraud issues at least some will stick and bare fruit.
In Georgia they have found 135+K ballots that look invalid.
I’m feeling much more confident now. It helped when I realised that the MSM are playing political theatre with anointing Biden –I actually think they know the Dems have real problems so they are trying to create an expectation or false narrative to confuse the whole issue.
The Blue Mirage is here, but only for a little while.
Blue Flatulence -ephemeral as F%$*
They are 1) attempting to get the public accustomed to seeing/hearing/reading Biden as president so we will lose courage and want to just move on and 2) attempting to get republicans to encourage President Trump to do the same “for the good of the
country”.
What about eliminating voter fraud for the good of the country?
Ross, they are giving it to Biden so they can claim Trump stole it from Biden when TRump exercises his rights to a fair election. That allows them something to keep the “illegitimate orange man” bad theory alive for another 4 years.
They hope to convince the USSC that keeping biden-harris will be better for America due to potential “turmoil” and “unrest” like LBJ’s TX Senate seat in ’48, after all there IS precedent…
https://stateofthenation.co/?p=35119
https://mobile.twitter.com/We_Have_Risen/status/1325129915709104129
https://twitter.com/DatElefan/status/1324838425170595840?s=10
Yep
to an international audience Benfords Law is meaningless..
the statement should be..
we have analyzed for election fraud using long established State Dept tools for election checking and find without any doubt that the USA has just experienced a fradulent and corrupt election as usually seen in Ruusia,Banana republics. All facets of election cheating are visual> softwre hacks, ballot counting irregularities etc.
The fraud is widesread but is focussed largely in the following states/cities/counties.
Investigations are on-going , arrests have been made and more are expected.
That is all.
Gliss, OK so they’re hacking Dominion voting systems… Looked at all diagrams. Apparently above my pay grade. Please explain relevance?
It’s the simplest, definitive evidence of fraudulent Biden votes, and on a nationwide scale.
Somehow, I think you knew that (because it IS very simple). So I am flagging “Lurker360″…
HarryD… Flagging Me?
Really? Did you look at all the diagrams? I am completely clear on the hammer/scorecard fraud concept, but wanted to understand the hacking evidence against Dominion that was included in the tweet Gliss linked.
And if you read the comments, I’ve been propounding on the Cyber cheating for at least 4 or 5 days now. Including not too far up on this page.
He should announce it as his concession speech so the media will be all tweaked up to cover it, and then…
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LOL- Like it! 😉
Oh, and frog march the press out of the room… They are all co-conspirators.
“Likely” meaning the entire apparatus, DOJ, FBI, Legislative Oversight and the Intelligence Community (IC), is now so enmeshed within this corrupt out-of-control state that no-one, even the good guys, is willing to expose it because the institutional collapse would be devastating.”
Emptying the cupboard of expired, rotten supplies and restocking is the only way to keep from killing yourself.
Char, yes, but do you dump the contents of every cupboard on the floor at once when you reorganize your cupboards? You do one cupboard at a time I bet
Sometimes I’m forced to make that sacrifice and go wide open. It isn’t fun and not cheap, but it has to be done.
Great plan … I mean, what’s he got to lose? They’ve already dumped Biden votes into the system to get rid of him. The American public would have access to the truth, despite all the media outlets trying to spin the data dump into a nothing burger. Perhaps the ratings for Newsmax TV will soar through the roof and shock the weasels at Faux News.
So, who’s going to get the plan to Trump and inspire him to act … just a small little detail.
L.B. Eventually, big distraction now. Let him mop the floor with all these aholes first, claim his prize (second term), THEN on to other things…
Yeah, keep on waiting and doing nothing everyone! Don’t organize in the streets or on the stairs of your State capitol building’s stairs.
TAKE A STAND AND SHOW UP 11/14
Bob, I think we want the same things.
I know it’s a long thread, BUT, we’re talking about Trump committing a huge dump of declassified information that is unrelated to the ELECTION.
I support every effort to back our VSG President Trump, and want him to kick butt and claim his rightful re-election.
That said, I think we need to be strategic in how we get this done. I agree that rallies are good and necessary, as are many other necessary steps.
Time is short to secure a win for Trump, and doing too much disconnected stuff could distract the public and deflate the effort.
Sure, we know all the inside baseball, largely thanks to Sundance, but the public has no basis of understanding of a huge declassified dump.
If we get to Late December and things are not looking good, THEN I agree drop every bit of information to undermine the DS.
First things first, though.
And remember how Pompeo was gonna release Hillary emails before the election?
He said it, and I believe they have been releasing to Fitton’s org. in dribs and drabs cuz even Pompeo is slow walked by the “Lifers” on staff.
Just posting this thread on CTH will spin up the MSM and many others….
this site is viewed by a huge audience….
Depending upon your position this could be a very scary proposition… if Barr comes out with some inditments this week it could get pretty outrageous..
How about arresting Hunter with a swat team and have RSBN cover the arrest early on a morning… or someone else onthe list…
If they view this as a possible act by Potus – they will expend a bunch of energy trying to figure out a response…
New Post-It———– did joe tell hunter he won?
Ha-Ha, no, they don’t talk business!
Bunch of energy? You gotta realize the lefty media is reflexive. they’ll say: “Trump’s sour grapes, going against the WINNER’s son…booo… Orange man really bad” That will flow from their lips effortlessly. Win first, then smack the hell out of the enemy.
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This is all above my pay grade.My only hope is that this all ends well for your great country.