Senator Rand Paul confronted Dr. Anthony Fauci today about his history of false claims, lies and manipulative statements surrounding the COVID-19 virus and direction for U.S. mitigation efforts. It’s about time someone called the baby ugly.
Anthony Fauci, a political ideologue and leftist advocate, was the primary government influence that has led to trillions in economic damage and impacted the lives of all Americans with false assertions and brutally political virus mitigation efforts.
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COVID-19 hype was a political effort with assistance from U.S. media.
“Fish do not know they are in water” ~Sundance
the more the truth comes out over this covid BS i won’t be surprised if someone who’s lost their entire lifes work because of this false prophet of doom’s dire predictions doesn’t sneak up and put a few dozen bullets into him. i dare suggest that smug little prick has single handedly destroyed more lives than covid has supposedly taken. 10s of millions out of work, thousands of businesses shuttered, the pure insanity of what his horeshit has caused millions of school kids to have to deal with, people getting into fights over wearing masks and face shields…..smh. fauci is just another over educated useless bureaucrat in a long line of over educated useless bureaucrats that failed upwards their entire lives by bouncing back and forth between academia and gov’t and that are never held accountable for being wrong. ever. it was refreshing to see rand go after him. unfortunately, thats about all we’ll ever get towards some sort of retribution against fauci.
He would not have gotten away with it without the eager assistance of the profoundly and unabashedly (they no longer care enough to try and hide it) corrupt media.
If it’s not little fauci it’s someone else. The common denominator is the corrupt media megaphone for all things Left/globalist.
Why are they permitted to broadcast (proven) lies on our airwaves and internet? We can blame fauci and the rest all we want but the media is the great enabler or these Lefty hucksters and therefore just as guilty.
He had a lot of help from our Vice President, Jederman. By the time the President was on to Fauci, we were knee deep in his bs. Mike Pence is no friend of the President.
Agreed. I said from Day One that Trump should have went with his first — correct — instincts on this, and that he was getting very bad advice. Pence was indeed the fool who brought Falsi aboard.
I hope Trump asks him to resign during the next term so he can anoint a worthy successor.
In agreement I’d like to add: Pence KEPT Faux-Xi on board. I’m sure the damage-control and spin-doctor oompa-loompas were saying “You can’t get rid of Fauci!…what would the media say if you do that?!”.
VP Pence has everything a seasoned DC dweller could aspire to possess: White hair that says “gravitas”, a dead-eyed poker face, and the moral compass of an octopus. He’s there to help, or so you wish. Then you realize his helpful-appearing arms have lots of suction cups that hold you in place until it’s too, too late.
I shudder at the thought of the Presidency in Pence’s hands.
But hey—Pence is a believer, right? So I must be totally way off base.
Very few things are as they seem in D.C., except for the President himself. PDJT is the one exception to this…
“But hey—Pence is a believer, right?”
Jimmy Carter was suppose to be one, too. Look how that turned out.
Just because you are saved, doesn’t mean you are going to “clean up your life”, which is why the word “should” is in the subjective mood in the relevant verses. Because it is a future action, there is some uncertainty as if it will occur or not.
Romans 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
Ephesians 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
Titus 2:12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;
The 7th chapter of the book of Romans outlines Paul the Apostle’s struggles with the issue of the flesh versus the Spirit.
Deplorable, I’m right in there with you. I’m the last person who should pass judgment on anyone. After 40 years of active faith in Christ, I need that grace now more than ever. “PAID IN FULL” is still what I believe; it carries me to the end of the day every single day. And I need carrying!
However: Aside from the supportive role a VP is supposed to play, VP Pence is like someone from Central Casting. He’s been just a tad more supportive than Jeff Sessions was. Being in public life means that scrutiny, judgment and the associated slings and arrows are part of the job description. Everyone who takes that oath of office must be judged by the fidelity to that oath. There are no acceptable shortcuts or end runs.
I’d have kicked Faux-Xi, as well as Scarves (Birx) to the curb and promoted Scott Atlas to the head of the table a LONG time ago…unless POTUS has instructed Pence otherwise. I’d LOVE to be proven wrong on this. At the very least POTUS is having to deal with very bad advice, and our nation is suffering and in real peril.
There is only One Righteous Judge, and I believe He will be stepping in sooner rather than later. I just wish He’d sync His calendar to mine sometimes.
I’m with you, eplogic. Since pence was put in charge of this fiasco, why hasn’t he brought forward the front line doctors who were having success? Now that we know the corruption of the cdc, the fda and the infectious diseases unit, why didn’t PTrump bring more qualified people to the forefront to put an end to this scamdemic. He’s letting these frontline doctors swing in the wind and be battered for standing up and speaking up. I’m still angry that I’m not “allowed” to be treated with hydrochloroquine/zpack and zinc, at the first sign of trouble.
Ah! To be in the land of the free and the home of the brave! Sarc
This is just a guess,but the”Turtle”has been keeping President Trump occupied with his BS and making sure that he gets the right advise,if you know what I mean.The”Turtle” is NOT his friend,of that you can be sure.
If you contact these people they will send you a script overnight
I could not agree more and am grateful for this website and the people here who think outside the box and do not swallow everything they are told. I’ve not liked or trusted Pence w the whole ‘Task Force’ fiasco and believe he’s been below average VP (and that Trump should have gotten someone new for 2020 like Jim Jordan). All we hear from Pence is platitudes, never any details about anything. He should have grabbed the TF after a couple of weeks and said we are firing fauxi and brix they are taking us the wrong direction etc and we are taking a different approach. No he did nothing and we kept going down the path of destruction. Trump might as well have appointed a tree stump to head the TF. That is a point where Prez Trump needed tough choices and leadership from someone like Pence, and Pence failed him. Someone mentioned ‘PEPFAR’ and if you want more info on that see Amazing Polly (amazingpolly.net) who has investigated and unpacked the corruption that includes esp brix and Pence also had his fingers in it.
Agreed. We’ve always had liars and power mongers in politics but our country never went off the rails until the media chose sides.
Holdout,
It’s not just the media choosing sides, it’s the Democrat Communist Fascist Party that thinks the world is square & much more manageable than a round world.
They only want those people who agree that the world is square to be in the square world.
WE KNOW about the coup. We all know we have to win the House; we know we have to keep the Senate, if Pres. Trump is to
continue to keep the world round.
and not just on covid. The leftist, propaganda outlets are responsible propping up/promoting the floundering Biden campaign, BLM, Antifa and every virulent infection trying to take root on our shores.
I prefer they use a baseball bat so as to not give anti-gunners ammo.
Rand Paul was actually a practicing physician, Fauci was not. He’s been a government beaurocrat his whole life.
Fauci graduated medical school in 1966 and joined NIH in 1968. Two years out of med school..At most he could have have completed an jnternship and one year of a residency. In what? Internal medicine? That takes three years. So did he finish a residency in NIH? Doea NIH have residencies? I don’t know the answer to that question.
Qhen is the last time he wvwn saw a patient? Yet he is an expert on a novel virus? Something does not compute.
POTUS’s biggest mistakes were in trusting advice in personnel choices…McMasters, Mattis and Fauci all of whom undermined him every chance they got..
Yeah, Fraudci is a PhD (Piled Higher and Deeper)
Whereas Dr. Paul is a M.D. (Medical Doctor).
I’ll listen to Rand Paul any day of the year rather than Fraudci.
GB
Fauci is an MD . A friend of ours graduated med school with him. Sen Paul also is a medical doctor. My question is about Fauci’s post MD training. Two years is nothing. MDs do a year of internship post MD, then generally a residency in a specialty. Internal medicine residency is 3 years after internship. Rand Paul had internship and 4 years ophthalmology. Fauci went to NIH two years after Med school. One of those years had to be an internship which means he went to NIH after just one year of residency. In what?. Something is not right. Unless NIH offers residencies. In what specialty? Many questions. Something is fishy with fishy Fauci
… maybe B. Hussein O. knows where Fauci’s records are …
Ok. But I stand by my assertion that Fauci is a fraud; M.D. or PhD.
When something is “fishy, it usually means that the truth has not yet been told.
Recently Fauci said he takes vitamin c and vitamin d, yet he failed to recommend all Americans take vitamin d which has been shown in multiple studies to be helpful. He killed HCQ in US, which in turn killed thousands of Americans. Ivermectin, a cheap drug, is being used in many countries and in studies is more effective than HCQ, yet not a word from Fauci. He not only told us not to wear masks, but ridiculed the idea. How did that work out in extended care facilities?
I wish Rand had asked about Bradykinin hypothesis, which explains why vitamin d, zinc, Ivermectin, and HCQ work. Bradykinin hypothesis is a big data solution. I think Trump should have brought in more outsiders early on and not relied so heavily on government “experts” who have appeared to be incompetent..
Also, why has the president not ended the medical emergency declaration he made back in Feb/Mar?
Begs the question, doesn’t it? Should’ve been ended by Aug 1, at a minimum.
Has probably been threatened with the release of another virus if he does. I expect he will after the election.
“Appeared” ???????
Another Treeper posted this link a few days ago. https://youtu.be/8UvFhIFzaac
The link contains substantial info with easy to understand graphs, etc. which clearly explain the predictable course of the Covid epidemic in 2020. And the statistician answers Fauci’s only effective argument against the Sweden approach by pointing out with reliable statistics that the other Scandanavian countries with lower death rates in 2020 had much higher death rates (spikes vs troughs) in 2019.
I’ve been following the progress in Sweden (no lock downs) vs the Covid Lockdown approach everywhere else. Very little positive news reported by MSM involving Sweden. In fact, google Sweden Covid approach and all you see are attack articles. As Hamlet might say, “something is rotten in Denmark” but Sweden is OK.
One other question I have is how many Lupus patients have died from Covid? Recall that people suffering from Lupus typically take Hydroxychloroquine every day. I’d love to see the data/deep dive on Covid deaths among Lupus patients.
The doctor in charge of the largest lupus clinic in the US was on Tucker in April, he had zero cases of covid out of over 50k patients, and he pointed out most of his patients had one or more serious comorbidities. I can’t remember his name at the moment, just woke up and still booting up.
DS, it would be nice to study current data regarding death rates this year versus previous years of Lupus patients. I suspect the data would prove the effectiveness of Hydroxychloroquine in preventing death from Covid.
In Lancet, statistically relevant 30% mortality benefit from chronic use of hydroxychloroquine in huge US observational study (n=31k) of rheumatoid arthritis/lupus veteran patients.
Data from Lancet study posted today: No COVID-19 related deaths in patients on HCQ for rheumatic conditions vs 7 deaths in group not receiving HCQ.
https://www.thelancet.com/pdfs/journals/lanrhe/PIIS2665-9913(20)30305-2.pdf
and
My brief search for HCQ studies turned up that most of the “studies” were halted, or were set up without the controls that validate a study. Why, it is almost like they were designed to fail. Nobody would do that, would they?
/sarc off/
I am a rheumatoid arthritis patient and have been taking HCQ 200mg/day…and am sure I came down with COVID-19 in April. Adding more vitamin C helped; I only had trouble breathing for ~2 days. But even then it was frightening. Both RA and lupus are serious autoimmune disorders; sufferers are obviously immunocompromised and need to take the virus seriously.
That said, I’m not living in fear every day. Just pain and secondary Sjógren’s. HCQ definitely helped, kept me out of the hospital, and put me back on the path to the regular grind.
Thanks for the info uj and God bless! Please keep us updated on your use of HCQ and your health progress.
I have a niece and nephew, sister and brother, who are adults.
She lives and works in the U.S. and is forced to wear a mask.
He lives in Sweden (they both have dual citizenship), travels all over the world for his job, never wears a mask in Sweden and rarely wears a mask anywhere else he goes.
She tested positive for Covid19, he’s clean as a whistle.
Which brings up another point I rarely hear mentioned.
If someone tests positive for Covid19 it does not mean they were ever “sick” with the virus. And, since “they” don’t know how to break down the results of the tests they give between the results showing Covid19 or Covid06 or Covid pre-covid numbers (aka the common cold), the fact that so many people test positive for having “covid” anything is like paying for groceries with Monopoly money. It’s all worthless and a sham.
My Doc told me there is a more accurate test soon to come out from the Mayo Clinic. I think my wife and I had CoVid in early January. I wanted to be tested and donate plasma. He said the test was inaccurate. I just don’t want a false positive.
The PCR tests can be problematic .German studies have shown that no one over 20 ct( amplification) of virus is infectious.
Most US tests are around 35 to 40 . The Asymptomatic cases are most likely false positives ,picking up viral remnants.
See Ivor Cummins, Phil Kerpen ,Alex Berenson Twitter pages for excellent foreign studies
the deaths per million are 10x the death rate of Australia. Also the Swedish health authorities STOPPED testing children. With testing stopped the swedish authorities are able to say that confirmed cases in children are at the same rate as other scandinavian countries who had some kind of lockdown. The implicaton being, the swedes are affraid the swedish public will find out about avoidable deaths of their children ?
Tim, 90% of Covid deaths in Sweden are people over age 70. Last time I checked the total # of Covid deaths in Sweden (zero Lockdowns, etc.) is around 5900 total. The Covid deaths per million of population in Sweden is less than USA, Spain, France and England. And Sweden has flat lined to roughly zero deaths while USA for example is still tabulating/increasing Covid deaths every day. In other words, Sweden’s Covid death rate vis-a-vis USA improves every day. Hopefully there will not be a huge second wave in Sweden or the USA. As for Australia, I don’t see the relevant comparison with Sweden. And infection rates are meaningless. Death rates and total increases of Deaths versus previous years are the only reliable measure of Covid’s lethal capabilities. Watch the video I posted earlier for much more data and insight. https://youtu.be/8UvFhIFzaac
Agreed. We’ve always had liars and power mongers in politics but our country never went off the rails until the media chose sides.
Then there also is the possibility that the virus was developed in Wuhan as a VACCINATION against a bioterror weapon (a theory I heard floated when it first appeared. I haven’t heard that theory since). It would stand to reason if one were creating a bioterror weapon that would infect the world, one would want a vaccine to protect one’s own population. This might explain why Asians fared better than other races. Has anyone studied whether Asian Americans fared better here in USA than other races?
Thats a little confused, its likely that the Wuhan / covid19 was created as a bioweapon. To be released against America. AFTER the chinese had developed a vaccine. The bioweapon could be used by the Chinese communists in a pacific war with the USA. Its likely that it was released by accident. And that the Chinese communist party does not have a vaccine for it.
a side note bioweapon labs depend on “loss of face” to be safe. When human error happens, ONLY if the person immediately tells everyone else in the lab, can emergency safety procedures happen. often chinese would rather risk death than “loose face”.
Yes, I still love Trump but this was a HUGE……..I do mean HUGE….. blunder. Had anyone else done this I would be screaming for their head.
The lesson is Trump NEEDS to end his imposed isolation and talk with us early and earnestly for a reality check when he is stepping onto unfamiliar territory. The way he will always find someone–NOT AN INSIDER–who can sound a warning and urge him to explore questions and answers OUTSIDE of his own circle of friends and expertise. WE THE PEOPLE CAN BE A INFORMATION RESOURCE FOR HIM…….AND HE SHOULD USE US IN THAT WAY.
Probably blackmailed with threats of deadly virus. China hates him. I am amazed he tanked his own economy on the chance that this was legitimate.
He didn’t tank the economy. He’s not a doctor. He had to take the advice of the “medical experts” who misled him on how many millions were going to die if he didn’t.
psssst – he flipped it to crippling china pipeline forever.
learn, dont repeat narratives to cover up the real reason.
there is NO OTHER WAY to get china TAKEN OUT FROM US than this virus issue.
appearance of blunder = the greatest seperation from China ever.
3D Chess is still being played.
3D Chess is still being played.
This game of chess is not fair to the thousands of businesses that have failed due to this shutdown.
Look no further than his VP, lieutenantm
As much as I support Trump, he seems to make some bone head personnell selections and then waits too long to correct them.
HCQ has been used in South Africa for more than 30 years for Malaria and in most other countries for Arthritis.So,why was it banned????????Perhaps because”Big Pharma”can’t get their grubby mits on to it.No money in it if they can’t get a patent on it.
Talking death rates of this and that country when the reliability and non-standardized methods of classifying C-19 deaths from, with, had, might of, could have, potentially have, etc., yields laughable results. Interestingly, there was no mention of the CDC revised death count down to under 10k in the died from category.
Mask Fanatics Have Officially Abandoned Science To Control Your Life
By Georgi Boorman
The Federalist, September 22, 2020
https://thefederalist.com/2020/09/22/mask-fanatics-have-officially-abandoned-science-to-control-your-life/
I’ve been thinking about masks in psychological terms over the past week, and have come to two conclusions:
1. People wearing masks are more likely to engage in aggressive behavior toward others because they may feel their masks give them anonymity.
2. It’s easier to mistreat someone who is masked because at least half of their face is covered. Of all features, we see and interact with individual faces. Someone whose face is so covered is more likely to be perceived as less human and also more likely to be treated accordingly.
I don’t know that Pence hired the little organ grinder monkey, I remember him being around for a long time, speaking P.R. during other “pandemics”.
When Pence was charged with setting up the task force, of coarse he would call in Head of NIH, CDC, FDA, etc.
Fauchi was embedded in the NIH, long before PDJT even THOUGHT about running.
Pence worries me, too,…primarily because of Papa Bush and Reagan,…
But I don’t,think you can blame him for Falsy Fauci.
Remember, Sundance has outed Pence as the Traitor Judas whispering in PDJT’s ear. I hope someone can get this info to PDJT, somehow…
Really Trygve? When did Sundance do that? I don’t recall the post; got a link?
Must have missed it.
abigailstraight: I’m with you on this; don’t recall the post either. Would also like to see the link.
I’m 99% certain that was what SD implied. It was in connection with Pence vouching for Dan Coats national intelligence director. I’ll do some digging and post a link. Apologies if I misunderstood.
Okay, here it is:
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/09/09/bob-woodward-general-james-mattis-plotted-overthrow-of-u-s-government/comment-page-2/
Well, the way I read that; it was Bob Woodward who implied Pence and Sundance quoted from Woodward’s book.
I don’t believe anything that Bob Woodward writes.
And if Pence is the ‘dirty deed’ guy, or ‘whisperer’; I find it so hard to swallow that POTUS does not know it.
If POTUS knows it; he must have a handle on the situation.
If Pence is actually attempting to undermine POTUS, he must know by now that Donald J. Trump always gets even and it won’t be pleasant; exposing everything.
Somehow I find that all too difficult to believe. However, I don’t have a crystal ball and I’m sure POTUS knows so much more than all of us put together.
I’ll just leave there for the time being.
Truth comes out in the end.
I missed that also. Is that what sundance said?
check all posts over the last two weeks. most certainly under “big ugly” “deceptions” and “infectious diseases”
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/09/09/bob-woodward-general-james-mattis-plotted-overthrow-of-u-s-government/comment-page-2/
See dinner conversation quote near the bottom, and read it in the context of earlier SD hints on this topic.
Correct me if I’m misreading things.
Actually, I must have MISSED that.
I clearly remember him saying their WAS a traitor, whispering in his ear.
And, I remember a lot of speculation in the comments, as to who it WAS. My guess was McConnell/Graham.
Could you please link or direct me to the,Sundance article where he said it was Pence, please?
I don’t recall his writing that the whisperer was Pence; he seemed to imply that the person would — in time — be identified.
Nevertheless, many of us here made vacuous guesses as to who the person is, myself included.
My biases re Mike Pence propelled me into following suit with the guessers.
But to my knowledge Sundance has yet to make known to us the person’s name.
What I do know for a certainty is that Fauci served up the American public as if on a platter to the highest bidder. My thoughts about him are not printable.
that is correct.
sundance did not name nor did he imply whom the whisperer was/is.
to the larger point,. POTUS KNOWS.
and he is dealing with this dark horse.
now…my opinion… based on several red flags… namely the flynn issue.
pence!
but that is only my opinion.
I’ve held this opinion for well over three years..it is based on observation..
witness accounts
and hard circumstantial.
Agree on fauxi, my opinions mirror yours, curious while Sundance,DID reveal the Durham investigator, he DIDN’T reveal the traitor/whisperer.
As I said, my concern with Pence is historical, don’t want another Papa Bush,….but I haven’t seen anything but speculation, and inuendo.
And, I see the javanca rants, which give me a pain I can’t reach with my elbow, as they are unjustified, nevertrumper attacks intended to disarm PDJT of one of his greatest assets, IMHO.
Trump dismisses ex Pence aide who said she’d vote for Biden
This isnt the first Pence aide to betray Trump
https://nypost.com/2020/09/17/trump-dismisses-ex-pence-aide-who-cut-ad-to-say-shes-voting-for-biden/
Pence was a member of PEPFAR, before he became vice president. That is why he tapped Fauci and Birks who are also memebers.
FauXi had a long record of BS and self-promotion at CDC. For The last 2 decades we’ve been getting schooled, one hysterical extinction theory after another, that the bureaucrats who claim to be scientists often aren’t. They’re grifters. FauXi is a fairly obvious grifter, but also a rank traitor. As soon as he came out with the lock/shutdown bs, he should have been laughed and launched out of any position of power.
Should never have been there in the first place.
Peter Principle, long version;
Individuals in a hierarchy tend to be promoted to their level of incompetence, and there they stay.
Peter Principle, short version;
Fauxi is a DICK.
Well said Dutchman, well said!
1000 extra points for the short version 😉
Dutchman—OHMYGOSH!!!! That short version is hysterical! Glad I wasn’t drinking any beverage. I can’t argue with it though. Seems accurate to me.
Any day I make someone smile,…is a GOOD day!
The good doctor has some stones to disagree so strongly with a Senator of the United States voted repeatedly to his seat. I really do not care for that little gnome who has financial interests in his well being but not ours.
A gnome NOT of the garden variety. I would say more of the TROLL kind as in “troll. an international banker or financier: the gnomes of Zurich.” – someone making money off a global catastrophe!
And, a US Senator who is actually a Medical Doctor.
The Faucet has the media on his side; Senator Paul does not.
Fraudci is a lying scumbag troll who has committed countless CRIMES against humanity for DECADES!
Skin him alive, then HANG him HIGH!
I feel like I’m in crazy town.
Hey Faux-chi, why don’t you study the locales like nyc northern Italy possibly London and Stockholm and test the level of immunity. Then do same tests in sample locales where the virus hasn’t dropped off a cliff.
Until you do such a test how the f do you have the balls to lie to us and claim you are following the science?! Do you have any conception of what science is?
While you’re at it Faux-chi, maybe you can explain to me how your HIV team claimed for years and years (and probably still does) that men can catch HIV from heterosexual sex with a woman?! Show me a frikking case. Show me a study.
This idiot should have been fired 20 years ago.
Fauci stopped the HIV fear porn shortly after Clinton was elected. Then those experimental drugs started making their way to the marketplace.
Demonrat gonna demon to benefit Demonrats.
Zimbalist…..
There are several ways to catch AIDS from a woman.
1) MALE OR FEMALE bisexuals can both transmit AIDS.
2) Eating or drinking from same utensils.
3) Sharing needles
I may not agree with Rand Paul on absolutely everything but I do love to see him challenge Lying Fake Fauci.
Little Turd Fauci has continued approving funding to China labs despite President Trump’s orders forbidding it. The Little Turd Fauci has his fingers in patents that has him favoring those companies that MUST PAY HIM ROYALTIE’s for vaccines seeking FDA approval.
In sum, the Little Turd Fauci is as corrupt as they come & he needs to be imprisoned for life for the ENORMOUS harm he has inflicted upon this Country, our businesses, & above all, WE THE PEOPLE.
And there should also be lifetime sentences for Birx, Redfield, & any others in the Fed health care agencies that they can find who seek to damage this country & our President!!
I’ve said for a while now that every statement made by “officials” regarding Covid is made primarily to justify the actions they have taken, lest we the people get out the pitchforks and torches. We cannot expect honesty from any of those that have made some terrible, impactful, expensive, economy-wrecking, life-altering decisions… for other people, the officials remain unscathed by their actions.
Wow Rand, it took 10 months for you or any other “Republican” Senator to say anything???
Had enough “Republican” Senators opened their mouths say 5-6 months ago, the President could have cleaned out the CDC and NIH leadership for helping create and sustain the sham-demic, knowing the “Republican” Senate had his back covered instead of having them holding a knife against his back.
Remember – NO recess appointments.
Dr. Fauci challenged @RandPaul’s assertion that New York City had the WORST record for #COVID19 in the world.
Sen. Paul is right. Data taken from The Economist, EuroMOMO, and CDC.
% of Excess deaths per 100K week over week.
NYC has THE WORST record in the world. 1/
Here’s why we use excess deaths.
NY State and Florida have similar population sizes (~20M). But Florida has an avg age of 42 and NY’s is 35. So, the expected average deaths in Florida each week are 2 times that of New York.
So you gauge the impact by comparing EXCESS DEATHS
Educating Dr. Fauci on C19 Herd Immunity: Tokyo C19 Ab+ among 19-69 yo ↑’ed from ~5% Mar-May to ~47% June-Aug, while Tokyo’s C19 case & death rates ↓↓’ed. “herd immunity should be considered, particularly in the highly-dense urban scenario like Tokyo”
People need to realize that Fauci just embarrassed himself. In narrowly looking ONLY at Covid deaths in Sweden, he totally misses that Denmark and Finland had MORE excess mortality than Sweden from all mortality causes.
He’s missing the big picture, clearly a recurring trend.
https://twitter.com/19_phd/status/1308813515474571264
Fauci apparently has missed the entirety of the burgeoning heterogeneity literature. He’s using models that don’t match the data. Get the man some @mgmgomes1
, please!
Based on this exchange with Rand Paul, apparently Dr. Fauci has no memory of T-cells!
Here’s some data to (re-) educate Dr. Fauci on their role in Ab neg C19, & their likely cross-reactivity to C19 based upon past common cold Hcov exposure
SUICIDE IS SKYROCKETING & that the Victorian Govt is LYING about the official numbers! We knew this was happening!! Thank-you Alan Jones https://m.facebook.com/story.php?stor
I simply no longer trust ANY gvt paid “expert” about anything.
It’s pretty obvious that FauXi does not read the latest findings. After all, he was hawking Gilead and Remesdivir for AGES (turned out to not work!)
That was particularly galling. The lieing NIH Leprechaun just blew off Rand Paul’s valid T-Cell cross immunity data with a fantasy study he pulled out of his back britches. His smug smile at the end told me he thought he got away clean.
Clearly Fauci has no qualms about beclowning himself, the institution he represents, and the United States Government in general.
Sen. Dr. Rand Paul is a prime example of why our founders wanted average Americans to make up our congress. Doctors to advise others in health crisis, construction workers to advise others in natural disasters, farmers to advise in food and weather crisis, so on and so forth. If we had more professionals and less lawyers in congress, we would not have the bureaucracy agents dictating to us things that make life worse.
i fully and totally agree.
POTUS TRUMP is raising an awareness about what kind of skills are necessary to lead a nation. he offers expert level business brokering as a means to establish prosperity AND stabilize peace.
when i go to have my tractor overhauled… I don’t consult a arborist or an attorney.
our nation’s policies are being produced by one part major corporate interest via lobby staff and three parts corrupt politicos and corruptors who have zero experience OR skills in the real world of business.
these are ONLY political creatures… zombies…nitwits… irregular clowns.
now…how to fix this?
limits to corporate campaign contributions…term limits. and laws that forbid any special interest from writing any laws behind the curtains.
no more.omnibus.
each bill stands on its own
performance conditions required to assess of money as spent has produced the intended effects.
bills and the DRAFTS must be made immediately in real time avail to.the.public.
any budget.item…that.exceeds percent of last year.budget requires a.public vote.
no more slush funds for congress.
no more fed thrift savings accounts for congress…they must invest transparently like all other citizens.
and so on
regitiger. Your list is very good, just much shorter than mine. I’m circulating a rough draft document locally, well I did give it to a trucker friend and told him blow it up, so nationally, maybe?
All your items are on my list, in some variation, plus 8 more pages. Trying to get it finalized and signatories, then send to governors. It demands redress and return to constitutional governance, or revokes our consent to be governed by the current batch of criminals in office. I’ve had several scholars say it’s good, for a starting point and perfectly legal. I’m just an old carpenter and farmer, but see it’s past Time to stand up and for us to be counted. Most identify the problem, few have solutions. I call on every one, type up a declaration demanding peaceful redress of our grievances, list out solutions, get a local/state consensus of our facts/opinions, finalize it, sign it and send it to your governors. THAT is how we fix this, but being a student of history I know ‘they’ never give up peacefully. We have a friendly in the White house, it’s time. So be stern let em’ know we’re ready, and don’t back down. God bless
I spend a few hours each day reading various web sites, comments, etc. It’s been my hobby for a few years kinda like a guy who watches sporting events all the time. Your post was fantastic. Very simplistic yet stunningly complex. How did we let it get so F-ed up?
That’s a large compliment, Thank you. I’ve been trying to work on converting younger minds with short attention spans, so I’m learning the KISS method (Keep it simple stupid) Hi I’m stupid, LOL. The only answer I have is we have been too passive and complacent. I read a lot as well and try to get a feel for the mood of the people, and search for truth. Sundance is very good at truth, been reading here for 4 years or so. We all seem to have had enough. I’m usually very quiet, until I reach my threshold of b.s. then I get a bit boisterous. These past few months blew my threshold into orbit God bless.
Someone more adept at math than me please explain how, just weeks ago figures surfaced that less than 7000 deaths could actually be ascribed to C19, and yet the eminent scholar David Muir, on America’s most watched news tonight will lie that over 200,000 have died as a result of C19.
Does ANYONE know the real truth?
lansdalechip,
200k+ deaths are those that died with COVID-19, the ~7k deaths are from COVID-19.
Curious if RBG died with COVID-19 ? Enquiring minds would like to know.
Oh for Pete’s sake – NEW YORK is his model of success? The virus raced through the population virtually unchecked thanks to Mayor DeBlasio’s subways remaining open (and not being sanitized); and Gov. Cuomo practically murdered thousands of elderly people by turning nursing homes into COVID hotspots. New York is a model all right – of what NOT to do, and also illustrates what would have happened had we not “flattened the curve:” We would be done with COVID-19 now.
As a gov’t employee, Fauci should have been retired at 65 years old, 68 at the latest.
He’s like 79 now.
On the government tit for way, way too long.
Dr. Kevorkian’s practice still open?
Great picture of Doctor Fauci, with his hands raised. … He appears ready to say, “Eenie meenie, chili beenie, Doctor Fauci is about to speak. ……. Sometimes smart people with advanced school degrees are still crackpots.
Piled higher Deeper.
OK, Rand Paul is an MD — So, I do take what he says with MORE than a grain of salt. I have children ages 19-14, this lockdown, remote learning, masks, six feet distancing, a family stressed due to finances… are many of my fellow Treepers realities. Mr. Big Time Fauci needs to go and life as we knew it needs to roll back in with a thunder. We have all had enough! The suffering that the “EXPERTS” have imposed upon us has been overkill. I’d rather live free and die than live as a Covid-19 refugee and be friggin miserable.
**I’d rather live free and die than live as a Covid-19 refugee and be friggin miserable.**
I second that!
FauXi (I’m stealing that one) lost me in early April, when I watched him state in the daily press conference that full mitigation & lock-down measures would be required until there are “no new cases.” A state of zero new cases could only be verified under laboratory conditions (by definition a controlled environment), so he was asserting laboratory conditions for cities, states & nations. Sorry dude, that’s a rookie mistake.
Somebody must have caught that, because the statement wasn’t repeated. He was never questioned on it and he never even had to walk it back.
“Never mind…!” – – Emily Litella, SNL
Fauci exposed himself by giving Jonathan Karl a thumbs up at the end of a press conference in late April/early May.
His action at that time confirmed a fraud being placed upon the American people and PDJT. I just wish this fraud would have been exposed and dealt with sooner.
Fauci & Co are responsible for countless numbers of lockdown related deaths (people not being treated for physical/mental issues due to hospitals only treating Whuflu patients, etc.) and countless numbers of ruined businesses. He and his fellow travelers should be charged with human rights crimes.
Dr Fauci is a fraud. Some of the major reasons why Norway fared better than Sweden are pretty obvious. 1) Norway has half the population compared to Sweden, though it is roughly the same geographic size. 2) Sweden has over three times the nursing home population (141k vs 42k) as Norway. Ninety percent of Sweden’s death were among those age 70 and over. It takes a certain type of self-centered fool to never admit to even the possibility of error. I submit that Dr. Fauci can claim that dubious honor.
SPOT-ON-!! The consistent lack of context, regarding measuring methods, error factors, unknowns and assumptions is the single biggest tell from the Fake Science crowd. This aspect of the official COVID responses has had my BS-meter moving from the beginning.
https://twitter.com/tickerguy/status/1304784679070060544/photo/1
https://tnouster.us/
https://www.bitchute.com/video/x4Z6tyb3eOp7/
Data that shows Faux Chi is a seditionist and co-conspirator.
The examples here are everywhere in the nation.
Faux chi wants CASES below 1 percent. What a FN joke.
AND the evidence is clear and has been for a long Time.
IT IS FECAL transmission virus for the most part.
Look at the deaths and where they occurred and where people contracted the Virus. All places where Fecal transmission is rampant.
Hospitials for a vector to outside contractors.
Nursing Home.
Places where Porta Pottys are used.
Lies and misinformation from all govt agencies, and now comes the Who to provide MORE FALSE DATA about aerosol transmission. Well yea maybe in the case of those new high pressure toilets that aerosol the poop.
Bathrooms are a huge source of hand to faucet, your own belt when you do your trousers. Wall switches etc etc etc. Fecal transmission has a much higher rate of transmission.
Tweets by tickerguy
Karl Denniger who has been all over this like many others. The data does not lie, only Faux chi does, and often.
Go to his twitter and there is much more, a lot more. Somelinks to his forum and other videos at his you tube. Spread them. Faux Chi is killing people with his intentional nonsense imo, and how he does data.
Whether you’re old enough to remember Woodstock…or you just saw the movie on Netflix…WORDMAN™ parodies a famous Anti-Viet Nam Anthem into an Anti-Masking Anthem…https://suffolkpolitics.com/dr-fauci-were-all-gonna-die/
https://suffolkpolitics.com/dr-fauci-were-all-gonna-die/
Not sure if above link worked.
Sorry, they are now placing a warning on his twitter and other linked sites. He is safe. Karl knows coding, and a lot more, that I do know. Ignore the twitter warnings and I think the .US site has one. Bitchute should not have it. Those two are pretty much the same. Oh language might be a little Salty for some (not in the video’s). His twitter and Marketticker site. I believe it is automatically off unless join and open it up. JUst Xxxx’x for letters, not that hard to decode.
Fauci totally ignored that most of the deaths occurred in the NY nursing homes BECAUSE OF CUOMO’S “MISTAKES”. What an a-hole!
Fauci is so willfully ignorant of basic epidemiology his eyes are brown. No real Scientist could be so ignorant and pass first year epidemiology 101. He is hypnotically convinced he can play us all for rubes. He’s claiming that the country should be shut down until there is an infection positivity rate of less than 5%.
If there are 5% false positives in the PCR tests (higher or lower depending on the amplification setting) there will Always, Forever, World Without End be an infection positive rate of 5%. That’s the definition of False Positive..
Case Fatality Rate , the percent of deaths of those admitted with significant disease symptoms, and Infection Mortality Rate , the percent of deaths of those who are infected is what an honest epidemiologist would be talking about. Very simple and straight forward.
You can talk about Excess Deaths but that’s too esoteric for most but the diehards, and subject to redefinition.
The September 15 issue of Journal of the American Medical Association, JAMA, has a 600 inpatient prospective study with three treatment arms, comparing remdesivir 5-day Rx, and 11-day Rx to control “standard care.” No difference if treated for 11 days. Slightly improved outcome if treated for 5 days of uncertain significance.
I’m of the opinion that President Trump it talking about remdesivir and vaccines to keep the media jackals away from the things that we already know work and we desperately need to get the Democrat governor’s death grip away from: Ionophores such as HCQ and Quercetin, zinc, vitamin D, inhaled coricosteroids etc. This tactic may be working as I have heard Gov Cuomo was considering relaxing his prohibition of HCQ.
Some other useful news I heard today is that Johnson & Johnson’s vaccine has several advantages over the Pfizet and Moderna vaccines. 1) It requires only one shot, not two 2) It can be stored at refrigerator temperatures for three months not kept frozen 3) It is an “old fashioned” vaccine that induces antibodies to the viral DNA as opposed to the novel approach of inducing antibodies to messenger-RNA which may raise concerns among childbearing aged females. FWIW
I don’t ever expect Fauci to ever admit he is or was mistaken (dead wrong). He is surrounded by sychophants and swaddled in the imprimatur of the NIH and OZ-like CDC. My daughter, a Biology major of MIT, interacted with the NIH and CDC following college. The arguments we initially had were famous ..me decrying the Fauci speak, and she supporting him due to the intellectual imprimatur of those two organizations. Today, she finds him a fraud…misusing his knowledge.
Whenever anyone lauds Fauci…I always point out that if this COVID was so UNIVERSALLY dangerous requiring EVERYONE and EVERYTHING to shut down…then why was Fauci…of that advanced age.. at a baseball game…sitting shoulder to shoulder..without a mask…even for a second??!!
Because… his public admonitions are Total. Crap.
The CDC has completed the weekly excess mortality projection. For all age groups, excess mortality ended before Labor Day and there are currently fewer than expected deaths.
https://cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm
Across all age groups, there were 230K excess deaths between weeks 12 and 36. Prior to Covid, there were 24K “missing” deaths (mild flu) and last week there were 4K “missing” deaths, for a YTD excess of 201K.
There were 28K fewer than normal deaths in 2019, and 24K fewer than normal in 2020 pre-Covid. So, the current net excess is around 174K. We should therefore expect weekly deaths to remain thousands below normal for an extended period, once the lockdown impacts dissipate.
Even if NYC has no herd immunity, the fact of the matter still circles back to the rationale that the initial lockdown was to prevent deaths due to overcrowding hospitals. We were presumed powerless to prevent actual Covid deaths in March. NOTHING has changed, despite all the masks we wear and all the indoor dining we can’t do. NOTHING.
Word salad spewing SOB.
Re: Falsie…
Thinking he had the last word and shutting Rand down with that smug…..Falsie is an arrogant little snob. I nearly punched him in that smug face, but the computer screen got in the way.
Covid 19 was and is a hybrid biological/psychological warfare operation.
Minuteman– What you say about the China Virus is supported by Chinese whistleblowers. I have been watching War Room: Pandemic. They have had some of the whistleblowers on the program. These Chinese ex pats are risking their lives to speak out.
Also there is a worldwide protest movement against the Chinese Communist Party. They recently released a song: Take Down The CCP.
https://marypatriotnews.com/take-down-ccp-dance-party-wuhan-video/
There are a few links to War Room: Pandemic at the site as well.
A quote from gnews: “On September 8, 2020, Mr. Miles Guo’s heartfelt and powerful song “Take Down the CCP” landed on all major music apps in the U.S., and it became an instant sensation! This is the official debut of G-Music’s production on mainstream music platforms.”
A video from War Room–
https://pandemic.warroom.org/2020/08/01/ep-311-pandemic-the-new-federal-state-of-china-confronts-ccp-across-the-globe-pt-1/
SamFox
What expertise does Senator Paul have to challenge Dr. Fauci, who, granted, hasn’t had any clinical experience since a couple of years in the early ’70’s, and sure all of his recommendations are suspect. His directions have been contradictory, not just for covid 19 but for SARS and HIV as well. And his recommendations drip with politics to serve those connected with progressivism. But aside from those quibbles, does Senator Paul have any grounding in medicine or in science, has he ever had any experience in medical practice?
(Checks Wikipedia)
Never mind.
Funny!!!
chuckle..post of the day!!!!!
Not to mention that Rand was the first Senator to test positive for COVID-19 and after recovering volunteered at one of the hospitals in Bowling Green where he has medical privileges. I don’t believe Falsie has been on the front lines treating anything or anybody.
We have two choices, follow the lead of our duly elected Commander in Chife or the lead of the unelected liar who thinks he’s a chief.
President Trump seldom if ever wears a mask, continues to work day and night for our beloved USA, and most importantly tells the truth.
Everyday we “comply with the lie” Faucie puts another feather in his cap.
We must push back, educate our friends and family. Take care of ourselves and each other. God gave us an immune system and the ability to smile. Faucie and his ilk want to take that away and will if we let them.
May God bless us all with the strength to trust the truth. Amen?
Lousy questioning on the part of Rand Paul…he should have stuck with the comparison with Sweden in the context of typical rates of mortality. Also, Fauci should know what the herd immunity threshold is by now…and, if not, why doesn’t he know.
Wonder if Dr. Fauci will attempt to sell used cars when he retires from government “service”?
He won’t need to. He has parlayed this and the rest of his bureaucratic existence into a fortune.
SD:
“Anthony Fauci, a political ideologue and leftist advocate, was the primary government influence that has led to trillions in economic damage and impacted the lives of all Americans with false assertions and brutally political virus mitigation efforts.”
All that needs to be said about the horrific legacy of the despicable Dr. Fauci.
Uh, folks. The Gateway Pundit had this figured out back in late March, in case nobody noticed. I noticed and I said so and got spanked by many well meaning victims of this horrible hoax. I couldn’t make sense of the numbers I was getting in Colorado, nor could I figure out why I was getting the statistics which were presented in our media. So, rather than claiming clairvoyance, I am admitting that I chose to believe The Gateway Pundit, which hasn’t always worked out for me either.
You don’t have the right to lock down young, healthy, free people, condemn over 12k NY elderly to their deaths (not including the workers exposed to them), and impoverish a nation. So: Fauxi (& Birx*) is a moronic, selfish, pompous ass who doesn’t give a ____ about anyone but himself. Cuomo-ditto. Why can’t they put themselves, and the other blue state genius governors under “mitigation” indefinitely? Congrats to Dr. Paul. Any more like him-in either house of Congress, with the hardware to call out these POS?
*she can speak oh-so as softly and smoothly as she wants. Still POS. All of them.
Why is 79 year old Fauci still working? He been suckling at the government teat since 1968, 52 years. The majority of federal employees retire after getting to 25 years service. Why is he still there?
Why is 79 year old Fauci still working? He been suckling at the government teat since 1968, 52 years. The majority of federal employees retire after getting to 25 years service. Why is he still there?
I have asked the same about fed employees who cannot seem to retire even when >70. I don’t have an answer but fed govt lifers often have a very difficult time leaving–even when set $ for life. I think that many of them would not know what to do with themselves if they did not ‘work.’ The wife (husband) may not want them back in the house (I know some of these guys and don’t blame the wife). The wife may rather have $$ coming into the house vs old whats his name. They like being the boss and enjoying massive perks and status (whether ‘status’ is merited or pure BS). I submit that many don’t have a post-work plan or a hobby(s), and keep working b/c it’s easier than trying to structure a new life and daily routine and all that. I cannot wait to not have to report in every day but that’s just me.
Why is 79 year old Fauci still working? He been suckling at the government teat since 1968, 52 years. The majority of federal employees retire after getting to 25 years service. Why is he still there?