Comrades, the Washington State ministry of COVID compliance is going to join in other regional blue state totalitarians and create a tiered system of freedom for vaccinated and non-vaccinated citizens. The out-of-control dictators are never going to give up the power they have taken under the auspices of COVID mitigation.
According to the latest rules from Washington State Governor Jay Inslee there will be two sections for spectator events and religious and faith based organizations (churches) that “allows facilities to increase capacity by adding sections for vaccinated attendees.” [UPDATE HERE] “The change, which is effective immediately, outlines the guidelines for vaccinated sections at sporting events, graduations, religious services and other similar activities.”
WASHINGTON STATE – “Under the updated guidance the following are acceptable as proof of full vaccination: Vaccination card (which includes name of person vaccinated, type of vaccine provided and date last dose administered) OR a photo of a vaccination card as a separate document OR a photo of the attendee’s vaccine card stored on a phone or electronic device OR documentation of vaccination from a healthcare provider electronic health record or state Immunization Information System record. Self-reported vaccination records that are not verified by a health care provider cannot be accepted.” (link)
Welcome to your new COVID passport Washington citizens. Do not leave home without your papers…
Note: Exactly as Anticipated…
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On a positive note, I guarantee you the people in the non-vaccinated section will be a lot more fun.
So this is how the communists get around the Constitutional amendment “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof . . .”
get the States to do it, so that makes it okey-dokey.
It will be interesting to see if any churches or any other religious practice, perhaps a synagogue or mosque or two, decide to disobey the State’s new edict limiting how they are allowed to exercise their religion.
Just one, please Lord, let there be just one to disregard these dictators.
States can do what they want to you. Corporations can do what they want to you. Your neighbors can do what they want to you.
It’s a great system they’ve carved out for themselves. Turns out, we don’t have any Constitutional rights at all…
I utterly disagree. The states have rights under the Declaration and the Constitution, if they want to assert them. If they do not, that is their despicable fault.
The government official purging the military of conservatives (aka extremists) right now calls your stance “patriotic extremism” btw. I forget his full name but the first name is Bishop.
Garrison!
Muslims will not tolerate their mosques being shut down. They’re setting an example for everyone not just in the US but throughout Europe as well.
I think it is a safe bet that no one will try or even mention shutting down any mosques any where. They are supposedly letting the illegals in without being vaccinated. What is the reasoning for that?
replacement workers after the vaccinated expire. Much easier folks to handle
….except the 15th Amendment established federal primacy for rights protected in the US Constitution….if it is a right protected from government action by the US Constitution it also applies at ALL other levels of government….the only shadow argument is when it applies to private enterprise as well
The 14th Amendment extends the protections of the Bill of Rights to the states. However, enforcement of these protections depends on the courts’ view of the protections. While the Supreme Court has slapped California’s hand with regard to church closures, I doubt they will support restrictions separating the vaccinated from the non-vaccinated.
Any preacher or minister who complies with these man-made mandates, is insulting the Lord and Savior whom he/she claims to serve. The same comment applies to the “reverends” Raphael Warlock, Jeremiad Wright, and Al Sharpton. We shall not tolerate any mere man who attempts to silence the Word in houses of worship.
The Roman Catholic pastors in Downstate NY are all in for whatever Killer Cuomo tells them to do. When he tells them to jump, they ask “How high?”
The Catholic Church is the worst offender IMO. I don’t know what the church is doing in Poland because the actual situation there seems to be covered up most of the time.
As I stated in another post, it’s a violation of Canon law for any Catholic priest to deny the Sacraments to any Catholic in a state of grace. They will answer to our Blessed Lord for abandoning the faithful in a time of need.
It is also a breach of the tenets of the faith to ignore the sanctity of life and this is even supported by Papal declarations made In Teste….when you violate these the penalty is SUPPOSED to be excommunication and denial of Mass and Holy Communion…still waiting for one of the bishops of America to cause this to happen to Piglosi, Biden, etc.
This makes me think of the pregnant Catholic woman with a toddler in tow as well who was removed from a Catholic church in Dallas. I could not see that and ever set foot in that church again until that priest was removed and preferably defrocked.
My sister was unable to get communion or confession during her battle with cancer this past year. A friend of hers finally managed to get communion for her from a church in NY. I beieve this situation has tested her faith which makes me even angrier than I normally would be. If ever she needed to feel the comfort of her faith it is now. We finally found a lovely Nigerian priest to visit her in the hospital.
The same “priests” who spread the evil gospel of Critical Race Theory from the pulpit. They show contempt for their flocks every day.
What about the Catholic Charities that are at the border facilitating this insurrection by invasion? That are allowing children to be taken into hotels with adults that have not been background checked? Sending children off with people who could be traffickers? I don’t know if this has made mainstream national news by Owen Shroyer has videos of it anyone can look up online. It is horrifying.
I heard the Methodist, Baptist etc are also in on “helping’ at the border. Are they being subsidized by the O’biden Administration?
As a Catholic priest this upsets me Something terrible! These men are not Roman Catholic priests, they deny the Lord and now down to Ceasar! Their Day will come when they will be before the Lord and i don”t want to be there!
Governor Science: “We’ll allow more people in as long as they’re vaccinated and sit in their own section.”
Me: “How about mix them all together, so you have 60% vaccinated sprinkled throught the 40% unvaccinated. Then all your unvaccinated people are safer because they’re going to be farther apart from each other. And the vaccinated people have nothing to worry about.”
Me: “In fact, why don’t you just allow as many vaccinated people into things as want to go, instead of having a cap of 22,000?”
Me 2, Governor 0
As always, Killer Cuomo is ahead of the game when it comes to Covid Compliance in our Blue State Commie Gulag.
There is no real resistance movement in New York. Just a lot of small pockets in the upstate areas. I don’t know how much more they’re gonna have to do to us before people start to rebel. This is a sad situation at present.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/05/sports/baseball/new-york-baseball-covid-vaccine.html
Contrast that with Texas Ranger Stadium (Globe life Field) is open for full capacity.
Don’t be fooled by Abbott. He has used the lulbertarian argument about no business regulations to allow Texans to be held to mask mandates in stores and businesses while looking like he has lifted the mask mandate in the state. It’s a scam and he’s a fraud. Another Rino Bush buddy fraud.
Gov. Abbott has limited powers. If he issued an EO that businesses had to admit unmasked customers, the mega corporations like Wal-Mart would file lawsuits, citing CDC and NIAID “expert authorities'” opinion that mask-wearing enhances safety, and non-mask-wearing increases the spread of Covid.
The courts would not be able to call this “proof” that masks are beneficial, but would nevertheless deem this to be sufficient evidence to allow private businesses the right to follow the “precautionary principle”, and require mask-wearing on their premises.
I could be wrong on this, but that is my take on Gov. Abbott’s declination to require private businesses to admit unmasked patrons.
People I know (especially older ones) are getting worn down. Especially those of us on the border with family and/or close ties to Canada, we’re afraid we’ll never see or hold in our arms our loved ones again unless we get jabbed.
Niagara- it is indeed a tough decision when it comes to family. I have a big wedding coming up early in September out in Wisconsin and I am being urged to get “vaccinated” to make things easier. Hah!
I won’t bore you with a long story, but I have pretty much decided to stand my ground, not get the jab and keep on doing what I’m doing to resist.
The wedding is for a nephew that I barely know and there will be no hard feelings if I don’t go. Especially since I will send a substantial gift in lieu of attending. I know myself too well- I would probably get arrested at some point for refusing to wear a muzzle and/or cover my nose.
Tell ’em your in the ” control group “.
They’re in the experimental group.
You’re waiting it out to see how the vaccines preform.
Just like you don’t buy a new first year car until all the bugs get worked out.
I have been in trouble several times here in north central POORegon for refusing to wear a mask. The local cops were called three times on me but as it is a small rural town, all the local police know me and refused to ticket or arrest me. I am not going to get this voodoo concoction injected into me. The overlords want the unvaccinated to become the ‘new lepers’. Commie liberals have ruined this state.
Hold your ground. Let me share a story with you.
My neighbor was in the exact same situation regarding a wedding in CA. She was obsessed with getting the vax and doing all she could to pull strings to get it which she finally did. Her husband was refusing to get the vax and she was concerned he couldn’t go to the wedding with her.
Well, he was suddenly stricken with pneumonia which went into congestive heart failure. He ended up ona ventilator. He did NOT have Covid. He almost died. She missed the wedding anyway because of this. All of that frantic worry about nothing.
She was in tears bc she hadn’t seen her family in over a year. They sat at home, never going out and wearing masks that whole time. All of that and neither got Covid. I can’t even imagine missing out on seeing my family for that long. He’s healing now and is lucky to be alive. Hopefully she will not be one of the people who get Antibody Dependent Enhancement from the vaccine when she faces the virus in the wild or any cytokine storms, autoimmune issues, clots, heart issues etc.
I suspect the pneumonia was a result of wearing the mask since fungal pneumonia is common with prolonged mask wearing. But who knows?
Stand your ground. Protect your health. This too shall pass.
The so-called vaccines are all experimental substances.
A. J&J’s double-stranded recombinant DNA made from Covid mRNA, enclosed in an adenovirus protein shell, is derived from gene therapy products. Essentially, treatments were developed to implant healthy human genes coding key enzymes into people suffering from genetic-defect diseases. Adenovirus was found to be an excellent vector because cells took it up and transported it into cells’ nuclei, where the healthy human DNA could be released, and hopefully integrated into patients’ chromosomes. The Covid vaccine marks the first time that pathogenic-disease nucleic acid is being implanted.
In theory, the Covid recombinant ds-DNA will not be incorporated permanently into recipients’ chromosomes. Instead, it will be stable in cell nuclei just long enough for cells to produce from it Covid S-protein mRNA, which will be transported to cells’ outer cytoplasm, where S-protein will be manufactured.
The idea here is that Covid mRNA and S-protein will be produced over a prolonged-enough period to avoid the need for a second booster injection.
B. Moderna has a decade-long record of trying to use healthy human mRNA as an alternative to DNA for gene therapy. Thus far its efforts have failed to produce an FDA approved product. Its leaders decided to jump over to vaccine production because the U.S. Government dangled a billion dollars for the company to do so. That, plus zero liability for side effects, was sufficient to get Moderna into the vaccine business.
C. The vaccines are not FDA-Approved. They are technically Investigational New Drugs/Biologics (IND’s) still being evaluated through Phase 3 trials. Essentially, to receive FDA approval, the trial vaccine recipients must show lower hospitalization rates, lower mortality rates, and fewer community-acquired Covid infections, than placebo recipients. They must show only minuscule rates of lethal and crippling side effects.
Because these data are being gathered–the answers are not yet in–the vaccines are experimental. The Phase 3 trials are randomized controlled medical experiments. The inoculation of tens of millions of Americans represents an uncontrolled experiment that is being conducted before the randomized controlled trials’ completion.
Vaccine development done properly takes several years to complete. This is because, unlike drugs/biologics that are tested in people who have preexistent diseases, such as cancer, heart disease, high blood pressure, rheumatoid arthritis and diabetes, who either rapidly show positive responses to the new drugs, or fail to, relative to placebo or already FDA-approved-drugs, vaccines are given to people who do not have the viral infections the vaccines are designed to prevent–in the future.
The Covid vaccines suffer the disadvantage that the pandemic has thus far infected far fewer people than was anticipated in winter 2020. So far, fewer than 1 in 10 Americans has been categorized by the CDC as Covid-infected, after more than 15 months, and three “waves” of disease. Even without effective vaccinations, the normal course of acute viral epidemics would suggest a reasonable chance of significant infection incidence drop-off in 2021, vs. 2020. (The Spanish Flu saw greater case numbers in its second year than in its first, but the spread was much, much slower than we see with jet travel-accelerated modern epidemics.)
The lower the incidence/prevalence of a disease, the longer it takes to establish statistically-sound outcome-difference data between treated and control groups. Again, for most drug trials, 100% of the enrollees have a disease you are trying to treat. For vaccines where no enrollee has the disease, and only 5-10% will develop the disease over the next 12-15 months without the vaccine, whereas you don’t even know what percentage will contract the disease after vaccination, accumulating definitive data is a long slog.
I’m shedding! I’m shedding! Run for your lives! I’m shedding RNA! Good grief.
People on both sides of the COVID vaccine debate are spreading disinformation.
Shedding is real, in case you’re thinking it isn’t. The manufacturers put out internal warnings to monitor the severity.
What exactly is shedding if the vaccine contains no viral material?
The “vaccines” instruct one’s body to produce copies of that bio-engineered protein-spike on the virus, just the spike, supposedly to direct the body to attack anything with the spike, and people are shedding that spike in their gaseous emissions and it’s apparently responsible for many miscarriages and other harms.
Essentially, the mask zombies have become vax zombies, there’s no escaping them or the consequences of their gullibility.
Does the shedding occur only a short while after the vaccine is given or do they shed from then on?
Yes, it is in the Pfizer inserts.
There are reams of information about shedding in medical literature anyone can look up. All people have to do is read. Evrything is online. You don’t even have to go to a library for crying out loud.
I’m not an anti vaxxer but I am anti forcing people to take experimental medical treatments to go to school or keep a job or be marginalized and socially ostracized.
Shedding is more real than getting Covid from the non-vaccinated. Whoever decides that this segregation is necessary is also forcing people to be separated for no other reason than going along with govrnment starting to test how far the waters go to exert control over the people and what next on their list to implement. With the co-operation of those with much to gain; and from those who fear to lose whatever they have. The fact that if the vaccine actually works, to protect from Covid, as what the government and media pushes; then those not vaccinated should not be a threat nor increase risk of getting Covid. Geniuses like Michael Smerconish at CNN proposes government and businesses consider and use measures to counter resistance to vaccines by offering “a better vax carrot or a bigger stick” Paying people to get vaccinated, especially colleges – the young – those ignorant, albeit sacrificia lambs. To that kind of extent, what is the reasoning for this forced separation from families, church family and communities? For Whitmer’s brand of mandating lockdowns unless people get vaccinated? On the table are forced vaccinations for those who have thus far resisted by enforcing mandates of vaccine passports and IDs, tracking mandates all in the name of herd immunity or not even that; to travel, to take money out of your bank to pay for your house, or rent and to feed your family. Control tightening in stages. For those who do not cave, whatever suffering comes along will be whatever are served up on the plate; for not submitting to unlawful government mandates and pressures, will be what governing body exert over the people – none for good of the people or for the country they govern. Complete takeover of every facet of life of their subjects – subjects .. not citizens – not free people. Pity those who have kids to feed,those pregnant, forced homeless and any money oyu have belongs to the government. In America, never has it ever been thought possible this day and situation actually can and have happened – even though it has been going on elsewhere for generations. Not that control of the people has nevr happened .. through the years many have tried in American history. At root, what do these mortals hold dear to them above all else and all others outside of their lone self above even family? The impact on lives not just in the States but globally tell their whole story to sufferings, deaths – of family and friends, loss of livelihood, with no help and little hope for recovery or return to even a simple normalcy. Millions over the world are still buying and selling, or making do, marrying or divorcing – life goes on yet everything is on hold. Nothing is normal in what used to be normal. If we are in the end times, we aint’ seen anything yet. The final of everything in the Bible yet to come.
sounds like something one of those walking zombies might say!
Since this is not a traditional vaccine maybe night but for regular vaccines there is a reason why they tell you to stay away from others for a few days. My friend’s child has severe CP and is wheelchair bound. She has had very few vaccines over the years but when her siblings would get theirs, they had to go to grandmas for a few days …..at the request of the older child’s doctor due to shedding post vaccination. May he was old fashioned or misinformed?
It’s not shedding mRNA. It’s shedding protein spikes that people are concerned about. If you’re going to mock people at least mock them correctly.
You know what they are really building up to is vaccination for voting.
But ID is racist?
so is divulging personal medical information involuntarily under HIPPA…but then again since when did something like LAW restrict Dimms’ actions
WA. is mail-in. So they’d have to change that first.
Yes, that’s probably the main reason. The Fascists want that in order to justify their illegal mandates for mass mail in voting, so that they can retain a viable way to cheat and defraud the elections.
Hoping some sane pastors get a great lawyer who specializes in religious discrimination and sue.
I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for that one
Democrats have implemented segregation for a long time.
Washington State and Oregon are so beautiful but unfortunately controlled by their cities. Lavoy Finicum was murdered by the FBI in Oregon and no one has ever been charged.
Just up the road from me. Cold blood. The OSP trooper is in the Lon Horiuchi Hall of Fame now.
I see there is a move to outlaw backyard chickens in Oregon to stop climate change. smh.
“Vaccine” demand throughout the state is dropping and there are thousands of doses that are not getting used because everyone who wanted the shots has gotten them and the rest of us do NOT want to be part of Bill & Tony’s Not-so-Excellent Medical Experiment!! And evidently NO ONE in the Washington State media is interested in the fact that Jay Inslee’s daughter-in-law works for the Gates Foundation…nah, NO possible conflict of interest there!
I actually suspect the reason they are pushing a third booster is to use up the unexpected surplus of expensive vaccines and collect the guaranteed government incentive bucks.
Inslee is a true anti Constitutionalist!!
Anti Constitutionalism is the mark of the American democratic party!!
I wonder if I sleep goes to any type of religious services??
Sounds most doubtful!!
Where is our roberts led Supreme court?? As usual in hiding and on the wrong side of the Founding Fathers!!
Unintentional typo….
“I sleep” = Inslee
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Wait. Eventually they will say in order to attend religious services or receive the Sacraments you must be vaccinated. It’s illegal to say Mass in Ireland right now.
How far that former Catholic country has fallen. Dis you see the cops raided the house of the man who admonished the police for interfering during Mass and took his children? Him they held under mental health law and sent him for an inpatient psych hospitalization? They also passed a special law to prevent priests from hearing confessions… outside!
Ireland also used to be the lone European standout against abortion…but they fell in that area a few years ago, unfortunately. Just like in the US, most of the younger generations have walked away from their faith and the policies and priorities of their country reflect it. So sad…glad that my Grandma isn’t here to see it for it would break her Irish heart!
My dad’s side hails from Connemara and I always wanted to visit Ireland someday. Not anymore. Guess I’ll see them all in Heaven.
Connemara is beautiful country!! My Grandma’s family was from County Cork and my mother, my aunt and I took her back to visit the Auld Sod in the late 70s, when I was 15 and she was almost 80…that trip is still one of my fondest memories, although we couldn’t get into County Antrim where a few of my Grandfather’s relatives still live, because of the “Troubles”. Was really looking forward to taking my husband there someday but I doubt that trip will ever happen now, since I suspect our flying days are over, since we have no intention of taking “the shots”! Ah well, ’tis probably better to remember it as it was when I was young…
Hundreds need to go to church………thousands need to go to “venues” Push back….make them arrest you all………..it will be something to tell your children………….push back………don’t accept this crap.
Sundance
The link to the Covid vaccine form from Wyoming is dead that you posted a few month ago under “you know what to do”. Can someone post a link to another one please?
Disregard…
I found one. https://dshs.texas.gov/immunize/covid19/2020-COVID-19-shot-card-2b.pdf
1) It is certainly not the church’s responsibility to “enforce” or “police” its parishioners when such garbage legislation is turned into law. If the government orders it they can pay for it. 2) It sounds like it is time for a lot of Constitution and 2nd Amendment Sanctuary Counties to begin identifying themselves in Washington state.
Hey everyone! I thought I’d give everyone here who is familiar with my situation an update and to also get your opinions. Please as many of you as possible please share your thoughts as to whether I should do it or not so that I can gain more consensus on this issue as it relates to my situation. In other words if you were me what would you do?
Yesterday I went to the Chinese Embassy here in Hong Kong to see about what I will need to get a Visa in order to enter mainland China and be reunited with my family after of course 1 year and 4 months of being separated from them. Its conditional of course that I become innoculated with their vaccine only. I am torn about this because I don’t believe I should take the vaccine as I am perfectly healthy. I have to make a decision on this matter by next week as I am being asked to leave Hong Kong due to my Visa extension set to expire and now I am out of money. If I travel back to the states my biggest fear is that it will take a much longer time for me to see my family. So much to consider here and its frustrating to have to my civil liberties being held for ransom in exchange for getting their vaccine. A lot of my fellow Christians in my Church are telling me to get the vaccine so that I can reunite with my family and that if its God’s will then I should have nothing to fear.
I would really like to hear your thoughts on this. Sigh.
Dear Jedi9,
Please do not make a decision based on fear or pressure. Yes, there’s a lot at stake. On the one hand is seeing your family, on the other is risking your health … and your life … on a “vaccine” with formidable side effects … which may be intended or unintended.
I’m praying for you, that the Holy Spirit will lead you and guide you to the right decision. That you will listen and hear the voice of the Holy Spirit as you pray as well.
May God bless you, friend.
Thank you Phoenix for your wise words and prayers!
Oh my goodness. I cannot imagine being in your position right now.
Getting the vax if you have doubts about it is bad enough. But then to have to go into Mainland China right now to see them , too?
Dang.
I’ve been an adventurer my whole life, but I’ve got to say: this is one adventure I wouldn’t take on.
Are they doing OK there? Can they come back to the States at some point in the next year, or meet you in HK at a later date if they want?
It’s a shame you can’t extend your HK Visa. If someone wired you $$ would they let you extend it?
I’d go back to the US in this case, and try to meetup with them some other time.
Where are they in China? If they’re safe and healthy, I’d just hold tight in the States for a while longer.
I’m sorry that you have to make this hard decision so quickly.
And like the phoenix says: let the Holy Spirit guide you on this one.
My family currently is in Macau but it’s still part of China. If I get the Chinese Visa as well as the Vaccine I will be permitted entry into Macau. Anyway, I have not made this decision yet but under a lot of pressure to take the vaccine including from my wife. I guess the one major concern for me is if I do get vaccinated then does that put my wife and son at risk who are not vaccinated?
Lastly getting extended on my HK Visa is not dependent on paying for it, just that I am out of money in trying to pay for living expenses for myself while also not working. It’s been a hellish suffering on that front.
Yeah the CCP actually pressured Portugal even before the British on HK over the return of Macau and it never had the “independent government” pledge that HK got on its return…Macau is the gambling capital of Asia…China’s own LV
I know family is important and I know its hard not being able to see them but I would come back to the US. Trust your family into God’s hands.
“Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving, let your requests be made known to God; and the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus. ” Phil. 4:6-7
“And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.” Rom. 8:28
Thank you
I don’t agree that God has much to do with vaccines. He gives us free will. People usurp God’s name to further their opinions all the time but, in my opinion, He speaks to our individual hearts.
Look into your heart; God lives there, follow your gut instincts, not other people’s opinion of God’s will. As a wife, mother, auntie, sister, daughter, I want only what is best for my family and do not hold any anger in my heart to those who make the best choice for themselves. May God’s love comfort you, help you find your answer and turn His Grace towards you to protect, comfort and guide you. Best wishes, you are in my prayers.
The Catholic Church I go to is all masked up still, while the Evangelical church I go to doesn’t care. (rural Utah)
Seems to me that churches that believe they answer to God and not the State will post signs stating people can sit where they darn well please.
It is not lost on me that the churches have been a huge part of the problem by bowing to Government dictates instead of proudly defending their (our) faith. As I tell my kids when I don’t wear a mask at mass, “If you truly believe what that man dying on the cross stands for, then you don’t need all these rules.”
Definitely more than just political corruption has been revealed in the last few years……the motives of mens’ hearts have been revealed in the churches and ministries. God hates it all. (the corruption, not the people)
My own family members had to leave their church of many decades. Vaccination & mask issues were the deciding factor. I say “onward and upward”! They visited a fully ‘open’ and normal church and were overjoyed!
Disobey it’s the only way
Actually, OBEDIENCE is the path….the Word of God dictates where the state is in conflict with dictates or commandments from God to “follow God rather than man”…thus obedience to God takes priority over government rules against the wishes of God
People are gonna have to start their own “Underground Churches” in WA., like the ones in China, Iran, etc.
Truly bizarre. But that’s what they’ve come to in these Blue States.
“For where two or three gather in my name, there am I with them.”
Good luck enforcing that in a Catholic church with an orthodox priest. It’s a violation of canon law to deny any Catholic in a state of grace the Sacraments. The problem, of course, is that the Church is filled with leftist, sodomite priests and Bishops who could care less about your immortal soul. If you can go to a parish that offers the Tridentine Mass, those priests will be orthodox and will even give you the Blessed Sacrament at the communion rail on the tongue. My Cardinal is one of the most infamous homosexualist leftists in America and a big ally of our Communist Pope, and not even he has interfered with faithful priests offering the sacraments.
No true church will put up with this. The ones that do, are churches you don’t want to attend. As the early Christians did, meet in homes if you must.
The persecuted churches of the Bible are the only ones that last & are found faithful.
In fact, a study of the Christian church began in Jerusalem under the original 11 Apostles remaining after the Crucifixion thrived and grew after each period of persecution…even Saul before his conversion caused an expansion of the Church as he was trying to stamp it out
In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own.
(Thomas Jefferson in a letter to Horatio G. Spafford, March 17, 1814)
What influence in fact have Christian ecclesiastical establishments had on civil society? In many instances they have been upholding the thrones of political tyranny. In no instance have they been seen as the guardians of the liberties of the people. Rulers who wished to subvert the public liberty have found in the clergy convenient auxiliaries. A just government, instituted to secure and perpetuate liberty, does not need the clergy.
(James Madison)
Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest.
-Denis Diderot
both Lexington and Concord in 1775 had as the leaders of their militias when they clashed with the Red Coats Ministers of God
Comrade, why do you call it COVID mitigation? Is it not Wuhan / CCP bioweapon exploitation?
I live in a small town between Seattle and Portland. This is still Trump territory with Trump signs being kept up in yards, and More Trump flags than before the election. The COVID madness is getting worse. My neighbor’s church couldn’t hold their yearly conference so they teleconferenced the event. The video devolved into scenes of people yelling tear down the wall and supporting BLM in various ways. People walked out of the meeting in disgust. My neighbor told her pastor she won’t be back until they take politics out of the service and put God back in.
wow. Really good to hear there are even more Trump flags now than before the election!
And that people walked out of the meeting.
Sounds like some in WA. are really getting Fed Up.
@Alonozo, here, between Seattle and Tacoma, we have plenty of Trump and Culp signs still up. We have not returned to in person church b/c we are choosing to worship mask-free. Online services of our local church and Stonebrier in Texas.
Churches has turn commies.
Ivermectin is getting some creds now, after peer review.
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/05/peer_reviewed_study_finds_that_ivermectin_is_effective_as_prophylaxis_for_covid19_and_as_a_therapeutic_remedy_.html
Related… (tip: ignore the Headline, go right for the Punchline)…
“Minnesota governor says politicization of mask wearing ‘one of the worst things that’s happened to this country'”
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/552272-minnesota-governor-on-politicization-of-mask-wearing-one-of-the-worst
“If you don’t like the mask, then let’s get vaccinated,” Walz said.
Their sophistry is revolting. “It is sad that governments are chiefed by the double tongues.” – Ten Bears
This is complete bullshit. This is not freedom of religion. The preachers and politicians will have to do much better than this. If God gave us this Republic and a chance to run our own affairs, why are the leaders among the clergy bowing to this crap from the political gang. You would think they would have a little more fight in them. My suggestion is to leave the collection plate empty as long as your clergymen go along with it. Soon, they will rediscover the backbones that God gave them.
Forgive my ignorance, but doesn’t this fall under “separation of church and state”? What churches are actually ok with this?!
What is it with Democrats and their love affairs with segregation, masks, censorship and open flames?
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This is what Communism looks like in America…People need to take a hard look and understand …then take the necessary action to squash it…just sayin’
Shame on these churches and shame even more on any Christian who supports them.
Truly, shame shame shame.
God forgive me, I never thought I’d say this. But I never in a million years thought I’d see the churches of America bowing down like this, facilitating lies, turning parishioners away at their times of greatest needs during the lockdown. Truly I am shocked and disgusted.
I posted this elsewhere but will say it again. Churches who went along with the lockdown and went online do not see that a trap has been laid for them. They saw online churches as a saving grace but they are a trap. Soon enough, any church that promotes traditional Biblical stands particularly on marriage and family will face censorship and discrimination lawsuits using their tax free status and PPP loans as leverage against them.
I am praying for Christians to wake up to false prophets and false teaching in their churches. And I am praying for Christians whose faith has been tested by their churches caving to the lie based lockdowns.
I can see the Seattle government using this to stop BLM/Antifa the next time they gather to riot, loot and kill.
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Seattle, where the government will ticket your car if the meter is expired, but it’s perfectly fine to pitch a tent and live in the same parking space, defecting in the one next to it.
People have to address this. The community center in my area reopened May 3. Their protocol was to permit those who had received the vaccine were not required to wear a mask. Those who had not received the vaccine were required to wear a mask. A person;s health information is private and a community center has no business asking.
I wrote a letter to the city manager, copied to the mayor, and they changed the protocol! All people who enter the center will be required to wear a mask while walking around, but can remove the mask while seated! This is significant.
We cannot sit around and complain. We as individuals have to take action. I am just one person, but was able to make a change for ALL the people who go to that community center.
Recommended reading: Dr. Bhakdi and Dr. Reiss, Covid Unmasked; one chapter thus far is in English and can be downloaded free.
Recommended: Dr. Janci Chunn Lindsay has lectured on the vaccine
A group of women in my city take walks along our Rivergreenway but you have to wear a mask to go. Hell no.
I have the right to choose what goes into my body. These vaccines or SHOTS are worthless. Used for control like the masks. “YOU MUST OBEY” well too many have died, become disaIbled, immune system destroyed, etc. Anyone see Carlson’s video? These are strictly unapproved by our health system.
What’s next? Yellow stars to show who hasn’t been vaccinated?
Getting the shot is a personal choice. “My body, my choice”. I believe its a personal call. I chose to get it after talking to my doc. But I’ll never force anyone else to get it. We all are different with different medical issues.
what works for me may not be right for you.
I wish we had a shot to protect us from deep state and liberal totalitarian governors. Or at least a shot that stops wokism.
Doesn’t the concentration of non-immunized people DEFEAT the concept of “Herd Immunity?”
What are these idiots THINKING?
I will not reveal my vaccination status to anyone. So, will I be seated in the vax or not-vax side of the venue? If I’m seated in the not-vax side then there is the potential for the mingling of vax and not-vax people. Would that mean that it’s ok for vax and not-vax people to mingle on the not-vax side? What a cluster.
Amendment ICongress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
The unvaccinated will be safer away from the vaccinated, as there are reports of vaccine shedding causing bruising from platelette loss and woman suffering horrific periods following visits with vaccinated loved ones.
https://www.truthunmasked.org/p/stay-away.html
Now do water fountains!
Was Jesus vaccinated?
I see that both the vaccinated and non-vaccinated sides both still require masks and social distancing. What’s the point?
fear kills!