The Line Holds – Speaker Pelosi Drops Plan For House FISA Reauthorization Vote…

After President Trump announced he would veto any FISA reauthorization bill, without a full investigative review of prior FISA abuse so that legislation could be created specifically to fix the severe flaws in the process, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has dropped the vote for FISA reauthorization:

WASHINGTON (Reuters) – The House of Representatives on Thursday dropped consideration of legislation that would have extended U.S. surveillance tools, after President Donald Trump threatened a veto and his fellow Republicans withdrew their support.

“The two-thirds of the Republican Party that voted for this bill in March have indicated they are going to vote against it now,” Representative Steny Hoyer said in a statement on Thursday, after a vote on the measure was unexpectedly postponed late on Wednesday.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi sent a letter to members of the Democratic caucus saying she intends to hold negotiations with the Senate on a possible compromise bill that could be passed and sent to Trump.  (read more)

A little background context is needed.  In November of 2019 buried deep in the congressional budget Continuing Resolution (CR) was a short-term extension to reauthorize the FISA “business records provision”, the “roving wiretap” provision, the “lone wolf” provision, and the more controversial bulk metadata provisions [Call Detail Records (CDR)], all parts of the Patriot Act.

In Mid-March 2020 the Senate voted to reauthorize the expired FISA provisions with some modest modifications.

However, in late March the office of inspector general published a brutal interim memo highlighting continued abuses within the system.

Within the 17-page-memo the IG notifies Attorney General Bill Barr and FBI Director Chris Wray that all of the claimed FISA processes, in every FBI field office, are grossly deficient, and in most cases there is zero compliance with FISA standards.  The IG memorandum was presented before the IG even looked at the specifics of the non-compliance.

This IG memo came out March 31st after the senate had voted to reauthorize the provisions and standards the IG reviewed.  The House now holds the senate reauthorization bill, but obviously the FISA problems are bigger than addressed by the small fixes within the Senate bill.

President Trump is committed to seeing that FISA is not reauthorized without “significant” reform. Senator Rand Paul has proposed to significantly change the FISA process by forcing the DOJ, FBI and Intelligence Community to apply for search and surveillance warrants to Title-3 courts in order to access any NSA database containing private information of American citizens.

Rand Paul’s proposal seems like a good approach; however, the DOJ does not support having to go to a court every-time they “incidentally” capture records of Americans prior to being able to look at or utilize the results.  It’s a complex issue but history has shown the inherent ‘honor system‘ within the functions of the process simply does not work.

Prior to the December 9, 2019, inspector general report on FISA abuse; and prior to the March 31st interim memo as the IG looks deeper into the FISA process; FISA Court judges Rosemary Collyer (declassified 2017) and James Boasberg (declassified 2019) both identified issues with the NSA bulk database collection program being exploited for unauthorized reasons.  In the Obama-era this included political surveillance.

Americans were, and are, under surveillance as part of the process.  The capture of all electronic metadata belonging to American citizens, in combination with the captured metadata of non-American persons, makes it almost impossible to review the totality of the database without infringing on the privacy rights of Americans.

For the past several years no corrective action taken by the intelligence community has improved the abuses outlined by the FISA court; the surveillance has only worsened.

The U.S. constitution’s fourth amendment is being violated by the continued abuse of bulk metadata collection, particularly when private contractors and government officials illegally access the system. The 2016 FISA review (Judge Collyer partly declassified in 2017) and the 2018 FISA review (Judge Boasberg partly declassified in 2019) both show ongoing and systematic wrongdoing despite all prior corrective action and promises.

Beyond the database search abuses, on the use of fully assembled FISA applications for surveillance warrants against American citizens, there are even more troubling findings.  Below are the stunning top-lines identified by the March 2020 IG memo:

  • The IG reviewed 29 FISA applications, surveillance warrants, used against U.S. persons.
  • The 29 FISA applications were from eight different field offices.
  • The FISA applications were from Oct/2014 through Sept/2019.
  • All of the FISA applications reviewed were approved by the FISA court.

The ‘Woods File’ is the mandatory FBI evidence file that contains the documentary proof to verify all statements against U.S. persons that are contained in the FISA application.  Remember, this is a secret court, the FISA applications result in secret surveillance and wiretaps against U.S. persons outside the fourth amendment.

♦ Within the 29 FISA applications reviewed, four were completely missing the Woods File.  Meaning there was zero supportive evidence for any of the FBI claims against U.S. persons underpinning the FISA application.  [ie. The FBI just made stuff up]

♦ Of the remaining 25 FISA applications, 100% of them, all of them, were materially deficient on the woods file requirement; and the average number of deficiencies per file was 20.  Meaning an average of twenty direct statements against the target, supporting the purpose of the FISA application, sworn by the FBI affiant, were unsubstantiated.  [The low was 5, the high was 63, the average per file was 20]

♦ Half of the FISA applications reviewed used Confidential Human Sources (CHS’s).  The memo outlines that “many” of applications containing CHS claims had no supportive documentation attesting to the dependability of the CHS.

♦ Two of the 25 FISA applications reviewed had renewals; meaning the FISA applications were renewed to extended surveillance, wiretaps, etc. beyond the initial 90-days.  None of the renewals had any re-verification.  Both FISAs that used renewals were not compliant.

But wait… it gets worse.

The DOJ and FBI have an internal self-check mechanism.  The DOJ National Security Division (DOJ-NSD) chief counsel, and the chief counsel for every FBI field office are required to conduct an “Accuracy Review” of selected FISA applications.  One per field office (25 to 30 field offices),which are also sent to DOJ-NSD (main justice) for general counsel inspection.

Keep in mind, these “accuracy reviews” are known in advance, so the FBI has all the time in the world to select the best FISA file for review.  Additionally, I surmise the OIG wanted to inspect the “accuracy review” FISA’s because they would show the best light on the overall system itself.  The OIG was looking for the best, most compliant, product to report on.

However, when the OIG inspected 42 of these Accuracy Reviews, the IG identified that only three of them had accurately assembled documents (Woods File) supporting the application.  The error rate within the files self-checked was over 93%.

So the best FBI files are selected to undergo the FBI and DOJ-NSD accuracy review.  The accuracy review takes place by FBI legal counsel and DOJ-NSD legal counsel.  However, the IG finds that only three FBI applications in the accuracy reviews were compliant.

The error rate in the files undertaken by the internal accuracy review was over 93% (3 compliant out of 42 reviewed).  These were the FISA files with the greatest possibility of being accurate.   That tells us how flawed the process has always been.



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187 Responses to The Line Holds – Speaker Pelosi Drops Plan For House FISA Reauthorization Vote…

  1. oldersoul says:

    PDJT won this round last night.

    Now he has the momentum on this issue.

    The Senate is being pushed on FISA. Finally.

    Liked by 27 people

    • Shyster says:

      The American people won this round….

      Liked by 29 people

      • Doug Amos says:

        The American people will win 1 of these criminals goes to jail; at that point, the choir will start singing and the swamp will truly begin to drain. Hopefully, about 93% of it.

        Liked by 8 people

        • lieutenantm says:

          YES. these people simply need to be told “NO” ! In the manner that an irate parent sometimes speaks to a misbehaving child.

          The answer is NO….and we the people will take this as far as you force us to….We will take this all the way to gunfire. Do you understand us?

          Liked by 2 people

    • Dutchman says:

      It has always been a battle,…conflict,….war? between PDJT and Mitch McConnell. And MITCH is a tough opponent,…but yes PDJT is finally scoring against this most hateful enemy.

      Score on getting,…FORCING Mitch to confirm Ratcliffe as ODNI, and in forcing, at least for now, FISA not reauthorised.

      The devil is in the details, and having Nancy negotiate with Mitch, for a ‘way forward’ for FISA reauthorisation, is like two wolves negotiating the sheeps future.

      The Devil is in the details, and you can’t count on Mitch and Nancy trying every procedural, legislative and process trick they can, to preserve the FISA system as it is, so that it can continue to be exploited.

      Mitchs intransigence says to me that,Republicon leadership was exploiting the NSA database for political benefit, just as much as the Dems.

      There simply is no reason for Mitch and the Senate leadership to be so intransigent, to reasonable reforms to prevent abuse.

      And no, I don’t mean making things that have been done, and for which there has been no accountability and that are illegal, …MORE illegal with additional laws.

      Gee, it was illegal to commit perjury and tamper woth evidence, in order to fraudulently obtain a FISA warrant, but we did it anyway, and there was no punishment.

      But boy, now that there are additional laws, which also won’t be enforced, making it illegal, ….so what?

      You can’t make an inherently UnConstitutional system, constitutional.

      Liked by 18 people

      • Bill Durham says:

        Politics??? I am guessing Mitch and the boys made a ton of money using that fisa database. Can you imagine all the creative schemes Mitch could come up with to make money…

        Liked by 4 people

        • Dutchman says:

          When you get to a certain level, $ is just a very portable, and so easily applied form of POWER.
          If the swampers simply wanted MONEY, they could have gone elsewhere.
          What draws them to DC is POWER, and the $ is just one aspect of that.

          Sure, they want $, but offer them an opportunity to increase their POWER, and thats when their eyes gleam and glow, with unbridled lust.

          Liked by 6 people

      • Jederman says:

        “…There simply is no reason for Mitch and the Senate leadership to be so intransigent, to reasonable reforms to prevent abuse….” Unless mitch and others are also the victims of the abuse and now required to tow the new party line.

        There is no good reason to believe that obama and his scheisse stick crew would not have used the database to neutralize congressional resistance to their “fundamental transformation.”

        Liked by 5 people

        • Dutchman says:

          There is no clear reason to believe Mitch and company NEEDED to be blackmailed.

          Liked by 5 people

          • Linda K. says:

            There is also no clear reason to believe they will bother to get a FISA warrant. They will just “break-in” and spy like the Watergate burglars. They don’t need “no stinking warrant.” They are the elite and know best, at all times about everything.

            Liked by 1 person

            • Dutchman says:

              Lets see what happens, as I smell change in the air.

              “I can feel it in the air tonite,
              Oh Lord!
              And,I been waiting for this moment,
              For all my life!
              OH, LORD OH LORD!”

              Liked by 5 people

            • guest4ever says:

              Linda K—And, of course, Brennan’s private company with the passports back in the day to remove the Kenyan’s incriminating evidence, and make it look like EVERYONE’s papers were, “surveilled”.

              Liked by 2 people

      • regitiger says:

        bingo….wins the interland…again! last sentence is succinctly superior.

        Liked by 4 people

      • Ray Runge says:

        Dutchman, that “there has been no accountability” is a theme, IMO, that is at the core of this and all the discussions in regard the coup criminals activity.

        What is also clear to me is the only effective “tool” in the tool box to address the universal lack of accountability has been declassification. Ratcliffe is the new player that has now acquired the powers.

        Liked by 2 people

        • Dutchman says:

          Declassification is one very important aspect of EXPOSURE.

          The Republicons in the Senate are at the heart of the coup,…and they are like stealth aircraft.

          There main ‘strength’is in their stealthiness, take that away and they are just another airplane.

          Expose the Republicons, as working hand in hand,with Democrats, AGAINST the MAGA agenda, and TPTB, the elites, lose a very powerful tool for forwarding their Globalist Conmunist agenda.

          Liked by 4 people

          • Ackman419 says:

            All true.
            Once the public grasps that this isn’t a red/blue issue, that it’s a tyranny issue, then there can be an awakening to the scale of abuse committed by our security institutions, politicians, and judicial system.
            We NEED both teams to take massive hits, as they are simply both in on it.
            PDJT stands above the uniparty crimes. He alone is fighting for us.
            Someday, everyone will see that.

            Liked by 4 people

          • Ray Runge says:

            AND in a process sense, Exposure is on the road to accountability. The Road to Accountability remains a pock marked out of the way path.

            I become bored and agitated that the ability to establish a clear path to holding people accountable seems to be ignored. This until I see that some real leverage is required to admit to and relinquish the DC Honeypot.

            POTUS Trump then deserve so much credit for fighting the fight for the past 3.5 years with out allies to expose the Swamp crowd.

            Liked by 2 people

            • Dutchman says:

              I have posted before, I seebit,as a 3 part process, how PDJT seems to work.
              AS they are exposed, they LOSE credibility, or even more specifically, credibility transfers from THEM, to PDJT; they lose, he gains.

              And, credibility is largely the key thing needed, to shape public opinion, perceptions, and therefore POLICY.
              And THAT is the POWER they so crave.
              Has worked for MSM, and Democrats, and coupists and is now being turned on Republicons.

              If it works, AFTER the 2020 election, we may see a lot of Senate Republicons retiring, and will have to watch closely who Govenors appoint, to finish out the terms.

              Liked by 4 people

          • guest4ever says:

            Dutch—BINGO!!! Winner, winner, chicken dinner!!!

            Liked by 1 person

        • mikeyboo says:

          Ray, you are absolutely right!

          Liked by 1 person

      • listingstarboard says:

        Words cannot express how much I despise McConnell, Graham, and Romney.

        Liked by 2 people

        • Dutchman says:

          Yes, theres a whole list. Cornyn, Thune, Grassley, and boy oh boy RYAN!
          Satan must be doing a major expantion of hell, to accomodate the section for treasonous barstuds, to prepare for the influx,…hopefully coming with hemp nooses around their necks.
          “IF i saw that you were drowning,
          I would not lend a hand!
          For I’ve seen your face before my friend,
          But I don’t know if you know who I am!
          Cause,I was there and I SAW what you did,…
          SAW it with my own two eyes!
          So you can wipe off that grin, cause,I KNOW where yoi’ve been!

          God, I love the,smell of schedenfrude in the morning,…
          It smells like,…tastes like,…feels like and is VICTORY!

          Liked by 3 people

  2. DJ Snyder says:

    In other words, FISA needs to be completely shredded and the meta-database dismantled for good.

    Liked by 17 people

    • hagarthorrible says:

      isn’t that what the 4th Amendment to the US Constitution would tell us? the Patriot Act in itself was aimed at FREE AMERICAN CITIZENS…may GW Bush rot in hell with his dirty daddy! read a little of how the great RR thought of his VP; he was scared of dying when he was shot because Bush would be prez?

      Liked by 8 people

      • RobD says:

        When one looks back, one has to wonder what the “true intent” of the Patriot Act was and how often and how long has it been abused by the most powerful in DC!!! I’m sure it was used to catch bad guys, but how often was it being abused against law abiding Americans?

        Liked by 8 people

        • regitiger says:

          the intent was the select foreign TERRORIST, who also might be located on US soil.

          the IC argued forcibly that the means to capture these villains required mass surveillance, that would indeed involve the entire mass data of ordinary citizens.

          therefore, the architect of the patriot act, the prime author, sensenbrenner, argued successfully that this was not merely a 4th amendment violation but one that should be held with an enforceable limit so narrow that only the most trusted persons in the IC could use this power and that the law itself automatically sunset…with all manner of checks and controls.

          sensenbrenner PREDICTED the abuse of this power would one day arrive.

          His arguments remained sound and relevant each and every single time the law was renewed. The deep state is a direct consequence of the undesirable temptation he so forcibly argued.

          time and time again, not only has the original framework of the patriot act expanded, but fewer controls that work were removed and/or ignored.

          this entire mess is the direct result of CONGRESS FAILING INTENTIONALLY AND WILLFULLY TO DO THE RIGHT THING

          they have enriched themselves in both money and priviliedge and power and have created a secret police society to control and influence nearly every single major decision using these powers. We only are aware of the abuse of these powers to influence a single presidential candidate.


          Liked by 4 people

          • hagarthorrible says:

            the abuse of this megadata system allowed Obama and the democrats to build the massive ‘blackmail machine’ touted by ‘Mad Max’ Waters in the 2012 election cycle. only the squeaky-clean or the very courageous will dare to confront this 21st Century Monster…notice the lack of courage in DC at every level; only PDJT stands tall every day!

            Liked by 1 person

            • regitiger says:

              flynn was squeaky clean…and look what they were almost successful in accomplishing.

              trump was squeaky too

              ratcliffe by all appearances is solid and they ran him off the first time with some crazy hit piece.

              all of those things WORKED…they WERE successful.

              I am not saying blackmail isn’t a component of their corrupt schemes.

              but as we bear witness these people will just invent lies and attack your with a cooperative and willing press to foist the narrative.

              now that WE KNOW..fully…anyone that wants to challenge the power of corruption of these people understand what they face.

              there really is a solution for this that will work to tear their virtualized worlds apart.

              exposure! showing the corrupt acts..

              Barr, Wray, Durham…time to start dropping the indictments and making the arrests.

              the evidence is sufficient…even if the cases fall apart in court..which seem highly unlikely.

              justice, blind, and proper, is not about presuming guilt…right…you go with the cases that have sufficient evidence..we have that…it’s THERE.

              this entire argument: we do not bring cases unless we can win, goes against the very reason that justice be impartial.

              think about that..carefully, when you hear Barr say it.

              “no prosecutor would expect to win these cases”

              damnit…that stupid..and wonky…let the COURT and JURY decide if the case is sufficient.

              we are well beyond reasonable doubt.

              the only reasonable doubt, with facts to support it, is that you BARR have invented ever damned excuse in the book to not do your damned job!

              get after it man.

              do you damned job…and stop walking around navel gazing..

              it’s effing embarassing..have you no shame? pride? conviction? faith? loyalty to a rule of law that does not permit YOU to determine what is or is not acceptable as a winnable case.

              get out of yourself and just get to work, drop the indictments on the KNOWN evidence you have.

              and hey, if you want to make us believers, how about actually hiring about 40 more prosecutors at a minimum?

              we will revisit your status in another few days.

              get cracking top law enforcement officer of the united states…! do your job.

              Liked by 2 people

          • guest4ever says:

            regitiger—AMEN! This is ONLY the very tip of the iceberg. It’s a VERY scary thought!


          • WSB says:

            Bill Binney’s system, though, did the opposite. It was a program that focused on the necessary information without mass surveillance. It was discontinued right before 9/11, and the DoD received massive amounts of money for the mess we have today.




            • regitiger says:

              yes, I’ve read some of Binney’s work..the man is a legend and continues to be relevant among the security professionals I know and trust.

              Binney made a spirited argument that was shot down for two primary reasons:

              mass surveillance WAS the goal once the corruptors realized and connected the dots about how easily it could be to find a complicit set of new laws from congress to allow it…just needed some novel national security threats to sell it…cover it.

              his program required far fewer people, budget and could not be easily “exported”..his program was built ground up for maximum efficiency which consequently also predisposed his system to adhere to the constitutional limits.

              imagine that..small program…small effects on liberty, safety, freedom and rights?

              imagine that..small program..ergo…small main gov’t powers.

              congress sold out long ago, and has been cashing since.

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        • guest4ever says:

          RobD—The way they USUALLY work in DC is to name things the OPPOSITE of what they actually do, or will do. Hence the, “Patriot” Act and that, “Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act” aka Obama Care. BS; total BS.

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      • Bruce Fauth says:

        Just goes to show why one should generally not vote for someone who was VP. Bush 42 and get Quayle? Nope. Nobody was gonna take out Billy Blowjob and get Algore, Nor Obamalamadingdong and get Joey Fingers.
        Exception might have been Cheney but he assured all he would not run. He can’t be all bad, he shot a lawyer. Jury still out on Pence

        Liked by 7 people

        • Phflipper says:

          “He can’t be all bad, he shot a lawyer. ”
          Thanks, I needed a good belly laugh!

          Liked by 7 people

        • Your Tour Guide says:

          Quayle wasn’t dunce that many think he was. Much more
          honest then the others you listed. Also very intelligent and successful
          prior to getting the VP slot.

          Maybe he was Palin before Palin. The big boys might have
          noticed that they had a boyscout on their hands. So they
          promoted him upstairs to keep him safely boxed in. Sound

          Hmmmm let’s see….. did McCain ever lift a finger of protest,
          offer to defend Palin from all the MSM, sitcom, late night talkshow
          onslaught of ridicule? Nope.

          Did Bush ever speak out in support of Quayle when “Potato” and
          the Murphey Brown smears started amping up? Don’t think so.

          See how this works?

          Liked by 6 people

          • Tl Howard says:

            Irony of ironies it was Never Trumper Bill Kristol who pushed McCain to look at Palin.

            Liked by 1 person

            • Revelation says:

              The whole point of McCain’s candidacy was so he could take a dive in the fourth.

              When he looked like he might win, he announced Sarah Palin and gave the MSM an unlimited opportunity to ridicule both him and her – as you say he never defended her.

              Remember the uniparty – who did the RNC put forward against Obama – McCain and Romney.

              Liked by 3 people

              • WSB says:

                Sarah Palin almost got McCain over the finish line. That is why the assault grew.


              • BitterC says:

                McCain didn’t stand a chance in 2008. NO GOP, even Ronald Reagan incarnated could have won in 2008 after the media spent the last few yrs just beating the crap out of Bush


          • dd_sc says:

            Quayle won that VP debate with Gore and Stockdale. He was on top of the issues.

            Clinton – Gore were quick to adopt Quayle’s initiative to streamline government even though it went nowhere with them

            Liked by 1 person

        • Pence might be like Grant – a good fighter when you need one but may not make the cut as “the” CIC.


        • …Bruce…you make I guess lots of ppl laugh…he can’t be all bad…..

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    • Dutchman says:

      If so, the current database MUST be preserved, mothballed or time capsulled, as it would make SUCH a historical database for the future.

      Maybe sealed for 50 years, so historians could go back and watch the plot for the coup as it was inseminated, incubated, hatched in the words of the coupists.

      Liked by 3 people

    • James Carpenter aka "Felix" says:

      And sell the Bumblehive off to Netflix.
      Or use its power plant to run ice rinks for skating in the emptied “warehouses” they serve.
      Anybody here not know what the “Bumblehive” is?
      Acquaint yourself… then repeat entire text of Fourth Amendment outloud when you’re done.

      Liked by 1 person

      • guest4ever says:

        Felix—-Get rid of THAT too!!! Crush it, burn it, and salt the earth beneath it!!!

        Liked by 2 people

        • James Carpenter aka "Felix" says:

          “Get rid of THAT too!!! Crush it, burn it, and salt the earth beneath it!!!”

          Naaaaaaaaaawwww…. too much waste.

          Every good farm has a “junk pile”.
          And from that “junk pile” comes salvation, inspiration, bucks saved, new widgeons. Can even save a trip or two to town if’n you gotta rig something to “make it work”.
          The slab is there.
          The stand-alone power plant is there.
          Call it (make it) the “junk pile”.
          And get some value out of dollars already spent.
          (BUT DON’T LET IT BE THE ENABLER OF 1984!!!!!)


  3. phineas gage says:

    Good news. Now the line has to keep holding to deny any state federal bailouts.

    Liked by 22 people


    Deplorables are PRM. (Piss Raving Mad)
    Politicians from both parties don’t want to hear anything about FISA.
    FUBAR is worse than SNAFU.

    I am pouring a double without ice and pray for MAGA.

    Liked by 9 people

  5. VoteAllIncumbantsOut says:

    It’s nice to see the POTUS retweet this today. He knows what we Americans have always known.

    Liked by 26 people

    • T2020 says:

      Wow, that video is awesome!!! 👊🏻🍷

      Liked by 8 people

      • VoteAllIncumbantsOut says:

        My thought exactly.
        I wasn’t sure in the very beginning about Bongino but more and more I swear it’s like reading comments on this site. In fact, I do believe he reads Sundance as much as we all do.

        May start listening to him more.

        Liked by 6 people

      • Dutchman says:

        I would love to see one with nothing but Senate Republicons, one after another, singing Muellers praises, and how he is an “Honorable” man,…and his investigation must continue.

        Liked by 4 people

      • James Carpenter aka "Felix" says:

        If kept current, don’t know… but a grand total of _2.4_ million views is logged on lower left screen of video.
        Fact checking, de-platforming, shadow banning and a lockstep MSM. The “global warming” of hearts bent on consolidating power.
        I see snowflakes stacking on the upper slopes, un-redacting some things bit-by-bit. Plenty of Americans still either in denial or simply unconcerned about their relegation to serfdom by today’s Swamp.
        Will the unsuspecting be hit by an avalanche in November?


    • regitiger says:

      excellent…factual..not a single note of fake news within it….all solidly contextualized to present a reality that many hard liner conservatives just do not want to acknowledge.

      more sunshine please….more..and then more…eventually our conservative partners will being to understand the true shape of elected officials..

      and please, can you send a link to this video and post it here …something other than twitter….youtube would be awesome.

      see, we need to introduce some algorithmic justice at youtube and get videos of truth like this well up in the ranks..force youtube to make the same “mistakes” as twitter so we can catch them and call them out on the predictable way this sort of video content is going to be made hard to locate.

      please send youtube link…

      thank you…great work!

      Liked by 1 person

    • Caius Lowell says:

      Wow! Thank you for that! Burr, McConnell, Gowdy, Graham are such a disgrace. Remember when Me-again Kelly quit for Hollywood and Tucker was promoted? Who knew such greatness was in store? I didn’t…

      Liked by 3 people

  6. freepetta says:

    PDJT plays Nervous Nancy like a fiddle!!

    Liked by 16 people

  7. ezpz2 says:

    Hi freepetta! 👋
    Hope you’re well. Was asking about you- hadn’t seen you for awhile.

    Liked by 2 people

  8. hokkoda says:

    “The two-thirds of the Republican Party that voted for this bill in March have indicated they are going to vote against it now,” Representative Steny Hoyer said in a statement on Thursday, after a vote on the measure was unexpectedly postponed late on Wednesday.

    Amazing what a little sunlight on corrupt can do…best damn disinfectant known to man. Too bad it doesn’t eliminate Progressives. But, watching them recoil in pain is enjoyable too.

    Liked by 11 people

    • MitchRyderDetroitWheels says:

      Republicans have no spine so the lean depending on which way the wind is blowing. I hope The Donald/Rich/Radcliffe blowup the gang of intelligence members. Nunes is safe for sure.

      Liked by 8 people

      • hokkoda says:

        It would be quite fitting for Ratcliffe to declassify everything the Gang of Eight was doing to advance the coup. Grenell smashed Schiff square in the jaw with those transcripts. I’m sure there’s a thing or two the SSCI did which could use a little more sunlight. Maybe start with Maverick John McCain…

        Liked by 3 people

      • Dutchman says:

        Watch the Tucker Carlson video above. Watch it several times, if you have to.

        Such actions and inactions by Congressional Republican leadership can NOT be adequately explained away, with the,excuse that they are ‘spineless’ or ‘stupid’ or even corrupt.

        The ONLY word that can possible explain the behavior outlined in the video is,….

        Do NOT buy into any other excuse, that is used to absolve them of culpability.

        That is a MYTH, they hide behind, and we must shine sunlight on it.
        NOT excuse it.

        Liked by 7 people

      • Mitch, oh they have a spine …..they use it AGAINST us.

        Liked by 4 people

    • gunrunner03 says:

      Was there an immediate rebuttal/clarification by the House Minority Leader, highlighting the “sunshine?”

      Liked by 1 person

      • hokkoda says:

        Nope, and I won’t hold my breath for one. I don’t trust any of them, but I do trust the concept of “self preservation”. These people do not spend the kind of money they have to spend and debase themselves and their families and friends the way they do, just to be a one-termer. Mitch can’t sell your vote if you’ve been thrown out of Congress by your own voters. So, I do trust them to vote to save their own skins (and careers).

        Hence the shift from the last FISA vote that Hoyer is talking about. When those Repubs voted awhile back to reauthorize, they took heavy incoming fire from their voters.

        Self preservation is a reliable human trait. Ain’t no US Senators lining up to be one of the 4-5 designated losers in November so that Mitch can be minority leader. Same over in the House where they need only win a little over half of those 31 “retired” seats in Trump districts.

        They’re going to obey.

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    • upstate909 says:

      And watching an American Bald Eagle peck out their reptilian eyes would be a bonus.

      Liked by 2 people

  9. hagarthorrible says:

    Our president just saved a bunch of dirty filthy traitorous repub reps from having gone on record to vote in favor of “THE SWAMP” over “THE PEOPLE”…I think PDJT made one of his few political mistakes; I would prefer to have my back-stabbing enemy publicly identified. But the ignominious death of Bush’s FISA spying is very good in any event!

    Liked by 1 person

    • TonyE says:

      Not everything is measured in politics, sometimes you have to deal with reality.

      Trump made the right call. The good thing is that the scumbags all got in line and did not try to overrule him. I figure that by now Trump has THE LIST of who is what. No need for posturing.

      Now, I better check on CNNLOL and MSDNC…. wonder if they will be claiming that FISA cures the Chinese Wuhan coronavirus… oh excuuuse me, the COVID-19 Plague.

      Liked by 6 people

  10. T2020 says:

    I am very happy about this. We should rejoice when there is any type of victory against these human scum.

    Liked by 6 people

  11. If any of you have suffered through the droning raspy Ca. Gov. (not legally elected by the way ) on radio snippets you will notice as I have when I caught a few seconds of his blathering that he sounds just like his 80 year old alcoholic auntie, same phrasing, same pauses, almost like……

    He is getting coached every morning…. :-/

    SHOCK !


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  12. wcmcgirt says:

    This process of FISA application and renewal will always end up this way. There are two basic reasons.

    First, no one in the DOJ or FBI sincerely wants reform. Even when reforms are passed there is no will to inforce them. It’s just too easy to circumvent the rules and regs.

    Second, there are no consequences if “mistakes” are made. Without a severe penalty (for taking away an American’s constitutional rights), there is no incentive to not screw up.

    We are seeing in real time the result of “no consequences” for DOJ and FBI abuses. The question is not “what will they do about it,” it is “what will WE the American people do about it?”

    Liked by 1 person

    • crasey says:

      The problem with FISA is it doesn’t tell the FBI not to spy on Americans it tells them HOW to do it. Once you step over that line there’s no going back – no matter how many rules or procedures you put into place to manage it. FISA was a mistake when it was passed. It isn’t improving with age.

      Liked by 4 people

    • Bruce Fauth says:

      How about automatic impeachment for any judge that approved a FISA warrant without ALL the appropriate backup. How about immediate firing for anyone that signs off on a FISA app that is submitted to the court without the complete approriate backup.

      Oh wait, a government employee forced to properly do their job. The inhumanity of it all. What was I thinking?

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      • He who speaks of gubmint workers really working – blasphemy I say.
        Wash your mouth out with soap.
        Cleanse your mind with “good” thoughts.
        Straighten up or you’ll be going to Wray’s sensitivity and bias training classes.

        Or, drink heavily and vote the bastards out in November – all of them.

        Liked by 3 people

        • MelH says:

          H&HC, 2nd-16th , Ah, now that Last choice is the BEST. We should gather together and do that. I’ve applied to be a Poll Watcher but it requires a Training Class I suspect they will call off rather than make Social Distancing work.

          Liked by 1 person

      • regitiger says:

        would have to first get all the scum out of congress and replace them with honest, constitutional reformers…this current installment will never impeach any federal fact, given the bombshells that are being dropped directly over target you can predict credibly that this congress will move to pass some amendment that blocks even their own abilities to impeach federal judges…raise the bad from “bad behavior” to something like…”most be convicted 30 times for a capitol crime”..not kidding..

        federal judges are the last sanctuary of hope many of these congress people will take to, when the hour or reckoning pays a visit…and it will.

        remember the team leader mcconnell, breaking all records for judge confirmations?

        watch the democrats begin an unparalleled alliance to restart that program in the next several weeks…that will be the big red flag…

        what I believe needs to happen is a challenge that intentionally creates a case that goes to SCOTUS forcing them to rule on the FISA and judge selection…as well the district court judge selection for cases…how is the sausage made…that needs sunlight.

        then we can begin the next chapter of selecting what parts of main goverment that has become adversarial to the constituion, and 4th amendment, and the security and privacy of american citizens….

        we are getting there…but much work to be done.

        we will need help…do everything you can to support candidates in your state that are viable to replace the congress critters…this is how we can do our part.

        make a list of performance points you would like them to accomplish…

        we have lost the tradition is telling our candidates what we expect, and have always treated as unwilling passengers on the acid trip bus. We need to be navigators and designers of our destinies. for then, our eligibility as “WE THE PEOPLE” is respected and respectable.

        we’ve got to earn it. freedom isn’t free.

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    • jj says:

      wcmcgirt, great comment! it would seem the next course of action for We the People is to call / email the senators of our state daily and let them know the FISA gig is up… no more 4th Amendment violations will b tolerated…

      Liked by 2 people

  13. Did Miss Piggy drop the plan for FISA reauthorization via proxy?

    Liked by 3 people

    • TonyE says:

      I’m really surprised Pitosi dropped the vote.

      I figure that via proxy the Democrats in the US House have like 5000 votes. Heck, given enough time and printers they can come up with enough votes to overrule the SCOTUS.

      Liked by 6 people

  14. Brant says:

    These “accuracy reviews” sound like the health department telling the restaurant they will be coming in next Wednesday afternoon at 2PM. They will be checking the fridge and food prep area. And the restaurant still gets a 60. What would health dept do?

    Liked by 2 people

  15. trnathens says:

    What everyone fails to see here is that the technology far surpasses the ability of legislation to control it.

    RIGHT NOW, the NSA literally acts like a vacuum cleaner, sucking up ALL digital information (calls, the content, not just the metadata; texts; emails, the content, not just metadata; phone bills, etc.). All of it.

    They have HUGE data centers (wikipedia: Utah Data Center) where ALL of this information is stored. Just sitting there. And there are multiple Data Centers like that all over the world, all controlled by the NSA, all continuously filling up with raw data. All sorted by name, social security number, or whatever filing system they use.

    I have a file.
    You have a file.
    Sundance has a file.

    In that file is every….little…..thing…..that leaves or creates a digital footprint in your name.

    Are you telling me that the next time Democrats get control they won’t instantly use all that stored data as one big MINE of information?

    Treepers wonder why there were no whistleblowers, and even Whitaker is ripped for “not acting when he could.” Look what they did to Flynn. Go back and read what Obama did to whistleblowers. More prosecutions under the Espionage Act (AGAINST whistleblowers) than ALL Presidents…COMBINED.

    PDJT isn’t going to BE PDJT forever.

    But that data is continuously updating.

    Every day.
    Every minute.
    Every keystroke I’m typing right now.

    You don’t think that’s not on everyone’s mind

    Liked by 7 people

    • TonyE says:

      Well, look at it as a good nazi would:

      The NSA is doing us all a favor, if your hard drive crashes or your phone tables dies, you can always get the back up from the NSA, for free. Heck, they likely have the emails and texts that came while your were getting the replacement.

      Besides, you know, what do you have to hide?

      Anyhow, gotta go, I gotta push some more pins in the Gov. Loathsome voodoo doll I got yesterday.

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    • Dutchman says:

      “Are you telling me the next time the DEMOCRATS get control,…..”.

      What makes you think Republican career Politicians won’t abuse it, as well?

      System was set up under BUSH admin, remember? Mueller was appointed FBI director, with Comey his protege, under BUSH. Andrew Weismann was appointed to high position in FBI,…under BUSH.

      UNIPARTY; Two faced single party, with single agenda of consolidating power to itself, while masking its true nature to the masses.

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    • James Carpenter aka "Felix" says:

      Thank you for speaking out about the “Data Center in Utah”.
      In days of yore, our Patriots plotted against King George fearing Loyalists who might pretend to be earnest members of the group.
      Nowadays, you can still “talk treason” over a few beers and hope some Stasi wannabe isn’t listening and going to “inform on you”. A trifling concern in modern America.
      Every communication you make, enabled by electronica, is fair game and (like embarrassing photos, etc) immortal on “the internet”.
      Search word: “Bumblehive”. You, as a “person of interest” can’t leave home without it.

      Liked by 1 person

    • WhiteBoard says:

      Snowden was tasked to track a person – he later found to be the Deutsch Bank whistleblower.. thats when he knew he couldnt become a whistleblower.


      • trnathens says:

        Title VII (think: 702 Searches) was passed in 2008.

        Snowden QUIT and LEAKED because of the 702 abuse he saw.

        And they told us he was a TRAITOR.

        Can you trust ANYTHING the Obama Administration told us? Or the Bush Admin? Or the Clintons?

        The answer, at this point, is clearly NO.

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  16. sarasotosfan says:

    We would have been better off had the House voted. Then Americans would know who would sell them out.

    Liked by 2 people

    • KBR says:

      Well, every single Democrat will. That’s what they do.

      Liked by 2 people

    • bruzedorange says:

      The fact that Trump didn’t use the vote to further unmask indicates to my thinking that he knows that some–maybe many–would have been votes blackmailed/compromised/under duress. Votes cast from both parties.

      What if PDJT goes down in history as the greatest releaser of hostages? Kim Jong Un and most of DC.

      Liked by 4 people

      • Dutchman says:

        I am not sure all or even the top republicon leaderships actions can be explained by blackmail.

        I think the Uniparty leadership, both faces, use the database info, to keep the members in line, to fight off primary challengers, and to go after reporters, or those capable of influencing public opinion or policy.

        You can’t rape the willing,…

        Liked by 2 people

      • TreeClimber says:

        For blackmail to be successful, you have to have done something wrong. Little sympathy from this quarter.

        Liked by 1 person

        • bruzedorange says:

          I thought Gen. Kelly’s case disavowed us of that myth.

          If it’s true that the Deep State can put child porn (or anything) on your–or someone in your family’s–computer or phone… let’s don’t kid ourselves. The Deep State is ruthless, technologically cutting-edge, and ply trade secrets gathered from the Cold War.
          That’s a sobering and depressing realization. So do what USSR citizens did and self-medicate with an old Soviet joke:

          The KGB, the FBI and the CIA are all trying to prove that they are the best at catching criminals. So the Sec. Gen. of the UN decides to give them a test. He releases a rabbit into a forest and each of them is supposed to catch it.

          The CIA goes in. They employ animal informants throughout the forest and question all witnesses, even plant and mineral. After three months of extensive investigations they announce their conclusion: “The rabbit never existed.”

          The FBI goes in. After two weeks with no leads they set the forest on fire, killing everything–including the rabbit–and make no apologies. “The rabbit had it coming.”

          The KGB goes in. In only two hours they come out, with a badly beaten bear in handcuffs. The bear is whimpering: “Okay, Okay! I’m a rabbit.”

          Liked by 3 people

    • regitiger says:

      we have a proxy to answer that and it will do just fine.

      HR 981 was FISA surveillance debate rules.

      democrats with one single exception votes yes.
      GOP voted no..across the board.

      17 members did not care to vote..I believe the high percentage of that 17 were GOP members.

      this means, you really don’t need to know the names of those that are for the continuation of this bill.

      it’s ALL DEMOCRAT.

      that’s the implication.

      sure, it was “only” about debate rules. was also about adding an unconstitutional proxy vote mechanism that is being challenged in federal court right now, with a guarantee it will be curb stomped.

      Pelosi commits another unforced error on multiple levels. Intentionally? doesn’t’s a solid defeat…one that matters.

      NOW the entire FISA law becomes enormously visible..and the press will have to adjust…can no longer simply adopt the darkness.

      they merely adopted the darkness. we were born into it.

      for we are initiated in the ways of thieves and mutineers.

      the reckoning is coming….

      there is only downside for Pelosi and camp to pursue this FISA renewal..they wiil coordinate with deep staters to elevate all of the other title 1-3 surveillance powers to accomodate the loss.

      we will take that one too.

      be vigilant….the real work begins…battle one and two are match and set…

      the real war now begins. no time for parties and cigarettes..

      gloves off and fingertips sanded.

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  17. Reserved55 says:

    Six ways from Sunday,

    Liked by 6 people

  18. gsonFIT says:

    Computerized scanning of communications in the same way that your email service provider scans looking for viruses – that should not be considered a search requiring a warrant for Fourth Amendment purposes,” said Litt.

    Robert Litt ODNI attorney for Obama/Clapper.

    Sounds like the bad guy in a James Bond movie. Same bad guy that suggested to FBI/DOJ to charge General Flynn with the Logan Act

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  19. KBR says:

    PeloXi Peloser Plotter
    Foiled again!


  20. 335blues says:

    Why is the FISA process so filthy with unconstitutionality?
    The original bill creating FISA with put forth by marxist Ted Kennedy,
    and signed into ‘law’ by President Jimmy Carter.
    And now you know.

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  21. jus wundrin says:

    Pelosi said she dropped it because the President was going to veto it. She didnt have the votes, so she lied there. The repub senators votes are on record, and those who voted for it, must be voted out of office. One of mine, barasso, is one of them, and he still hasnt answered my question as to why he voted for it.j

    Let it die a miserable death.

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    • regitiger says:

      pelosi dropped it because:

      a. the unconstitutional proxy vote fraud is going to get curb stomped by the federal court. (this was FIRST EVER IN HISTORY FRAUD (proxy vote) committed in HR 965 just a few days ago, and again on HR 981, the FISA renewal vote for debate). When the federal court decisions hand her here own ass, she will have to call all of her democrats proper and this is terrible optics ..she’s all about image…the illusion of credibility.

      b. the FISA renewal Debate rules vote (HR 981) was a unilateral process…NO GOP members voted yes, and ALL DEM’s (save one (010)) voted yes…..17 members did not even both to vote…for a bill of such enormous public attention and criticality, even Pelosi understands that the present form version of this bill is drawing all the “wrong” kind of attention..and not just in the US, but among the other 5 eyes…kids, this is big league stuff and will have implications globally! not exaggerating! She is designed the next step that makes it bullet proof and acceptable…expect the big guns to roll out..

      c. her chairmanship is losing power over this matter…even though the MSM would like to paint FISA as a necessary evil, there are sufficient dem voters who are not convinced…with a major election coming up, pelosi understand the political climate right now. She’s corrupt, but not a fool. She has lost more than a few good marks in the last several years and the shedding of support from some major contributors (conspirators) is plain to see…mostly the technocrats who are looking abroad to others who are more capable and dependable to foist their goals…Nancy has proven ill equipped to impeach this president…that does not go unpunished.

      d. Nancy is now aware that the recent dump of declass shows here mainliners in congress were heavily involved in a conspiracy…directly…and indirectly dumped rocket fuel on a fraud to give it supercharger power. That is being exposed in real time. Pelosi knows the kind of problems created by pursuing the same FISA powers at a time when those very powers are being carefully inspected as the primary source of corrupt power to manipulate the american people and take down a legitimate president! Trumps’s recent declaration (AND AG BARR) that he will veto this FISA renewal in its present for was NOT TROLLING…it is a direct threat that not only blocks this bill, but exposes pelosi for holding it…like a mad woman eating sand on a desert island…she will be mocked and slapped down by every corner of decent reasonable voters..and those are climbing in the numbers dailly. One thing voter spectators hate the most is failure…AND the cover up. Nancy has those features in spades.

      just my opinion.

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  22. TradeBait says:

    Jim Jordan indicated to Lou Dobbs that when the vote passed for FISA renewal in late March it was before they knew the truth about how it was abused, that all the GOP was against it now. I love JJ, but I call BS. If We the People have known of the abuse for years, how much more likely were they in their positions? It’s an indication of just how deep the corruption is in both parties. Now that it is politically convenient to be on the winning side, they hold the line. They would have folded like a cheap suit if it was more to their benefit personally.

    Vote the scum out and elect patriots only.

    Liked by 2 people

    • KBR says:

      Vote the scum out in the PRIMARY.

      If you cannot primary them out, vote for them in general.

      NEVER NEVER vote for a full fledged Demoncrat.

      Liked by 7 people

    • Dutchman says:

      I agree with your sentiment, its like Lindsey saying he supported Mueller,..
      “Cause I didn’t know!”

      Hey, idiots, its your JOB to know!
      If you DIDN’T know, your criminally negligent.
      If you DID no, your just criminal.
      Either way, you should exchange your brooks bro suit for an orange jumpsuit, or your necktie for a hemp noose.

      No way you should remain in office.

      Liked by 7 people

      • regitiger says:

        ummm….he’s doubling down on a KNOWN LIE.


        this “act” is the desperation move. It’s the last gasp of a known crook and liar.

        like most reprobates, graham will go down from his inability to protect his misconduct.

        but let there be zero confusion on the matter of KNOWING.

        graham didn’t just have “the opportunity” to seek justice…he intentionally refused to act.

        just ask Nunes. How does one explain Nunes on the same committee having exactly the same information comes to an entirely different factual conclusion IMMEDIATELY AFTER OBSERVING IT?

        graham isn’t ONLY a fraud….he is a scallywag. (please look this up!)

        he represents everything wrong in congress about 4th amendment…as someone who has stood up and hand waved about due process, rights, constitution protections, he stands accused of one of the highest crimes and misdemeanors within congress…qualified in every way for immediate impeachment and summary execution.

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        • Dutchman says:

          I fully agree, andappreciate you clarifying my position, which is there is NO excuse, NO explanation.
          They were and continue to be complicit, ACTIVE participants in the ongoing coup attempt and protection of their fellow coupists.

          I believe we are seeing a coordinated and serious effort to attack, expose, discredit and disempower the ‘heart’ of the coup effort, the heart and strength of the swamp.

          Team-Trump, as,I think of it is he and his campaign, House Republicans (Nunes et al)and SOME in the media, which is Vital.
          PDJT, Nunes, Jordan etc can not, for political/perception reasons, be as critical as Dobbs, Tucker Carlson or Baritomo, in calling out the Senate Republicon coupists.

          This is just the start, building for several months, of a sustained campaign of EXPOSURE, and the main strength and power the Republicons have, is their stealth.
          Expose them as what they are, to the 96% of the,Republican base, and they lose ANY credibility, to shape public opinion OR policy.
          Witness,,2-3 months ago, Ratcliffe nomination killed in committee, right at outset.

          Today, Ratcliffe IS DNI.
          Witness, 2-3 months ago, McConnell signalled, and Barr echoed “No hearings or amendments on FISA, just reauthorise!”

          Thats been killed, and we’ll see what happens, but numerous Republicans came out publically in direct opposition to Mitch, which is politically dangerous, even for House members.

          Is Mitch losing his mo-jo? Is he losing any credibility with Republican base, he, Lindsey and the rest have held in such contempt for so long?

          Without credibility, he has no POWER to shape public opinion OR public policy.

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    • StuckInBlue says:

      I can believe it. I doubt if my (R) Rep knew about it; it was a surprise to him when I mentioned about the fake Russia Collusion narrative. He’s got a family, so he’s likely quite busy as well…


    • rayvandune says:

      “… it was before they knew the truth about how it was abused,…”

      “… it was before they knew THAT WE KNEW the truth about how it was abused,…”

      Liked by 8 people

      • bruzedorange says:

        Exactly. It’s a question of political epistemology.

        If a tree falls in the forest and only 28% of your constituents believe it happened…
        did it make a noise?

        Liked by 3 people

    • BitterC says:

      I can’t help but think he really meant before WE found out about the abuse. They knew enough about the Page FISA when they renewed in 2017 or 18


  23. Bob Lynch says:

    Do you think that President Trump is sending Senator Graham a message to run a legitimate hearing on the Obamagate investigation? Everyone is watching.

    Liked by 1 person

    • gunrunner03 says:

      I don’t think Graham gives a rat’s ash what the President thinks. He knows he’s going to be around well after the President is not. And that is why he needs to be primaried and defeated.

      Liked by 3 people

      • Dutchman says:

        I agree he doesn’t care what PDJT ‘thinks’,..graham is the epitome of the guy approaching you, calling you “friend”, and putting his arm around your shoulder, to brace himself before putting a knife in your back.

        He is desperately trying to cover for his previous bad acts, and needs to GO.

        Liked by 4 people

        • regitiger says:

          I’ve invited some sunlight to the electorate in his state…showing WHY graham is a liability to the GOP/conservative cause.

          people are starting to do the calculus.

          it’s quite amazing what happens when you send links to sundance’s brilliant radiant work to state officials.

          never assume what WE KNOW is palatable or even recognizable to anyone else.

          Sundance provides the hard data…with expert analysis that is incredibly accurate and sound….

          make sure everyone you know and especially every single elected official gets a copy…daily!

          use the technology…

          create a group email list. send link, select group email name…bang…efficient…and powerful.

          WE THE PEOPLE have to understand that getting heard requires more than just talking amongst ourselves.

          PUSH IT…this stuff sells itself!

          God Bless America

          Liked by 3 people

          • Dutchman says:

            Post of the day. Business cards are cheap. On business cards, just have the CTH website.

            Not to pass yourself off as working for, just to hand out. Can also PRINT articles, for handing out,…think of them as like “free samples”; its a MARKETING campaign, in the market of ideas!

            Liked by 1 person

            • regitiger says:

              i’ll never stop until my fingers are bleeding, and then I’ll just use my feet..

              my nephew is printing bumper stickers right now. By this weekend, we expect to have about 5,000 plus ready to go.

              they will be “tagged” at every single market place of people, signage, vehicles and 18 wheelers….maritime containers and trains, overheads signs, courthouses, and college campuses. Any proceeds collected for those willing to donate will get five for five, and the entire money will go to support CTH directly…


              you deserve the truth.

              no trademark, no silly icons or art..white on black..big gigantic letters.

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  24. Jenevive says:

    The only reason for the excuse and the no vote now are that
    the Republicans were called out for the fact that they control both
    houses for the first two years of the Mueller hoax they knew it was fake
    but they did NOTHING to stop it.. now that they are called out for that
    they will claim they just found out how bad the abuse was…to
    justify the no vote.

    Liked by 2 people

  25. Snellvillebob says:

    The New changes need to spell out prison for non-compliance. No excuses, no blaming someone else, no saying it was just a renewal. The person whose signature is on a false request or one using unsubstantiated sources goes to prison, even if someone else wrote the FISA Request.

    Liked by 1 person

    • Dutchman says:

      Not NEAR enough, snellville.
      Since the coupists,aren’t being held criminally responsible for the numerous laws they broke, how are MORE laws going to keep them from doing it, again?

      Besides, criminals don’t think about getting caught,…thats in most cases what seperates them from ‘honest’citisens.
      “Locks only keep honest people honest” dontcha know. If fear of penalties kept criminals,from breaking the law, we would have no crime!
      There is no way to make an inherently Un-Constitutional process Constitutional.

      Liked by 3 people

      • Snellvillebob says:

        I agree that the best method to prevent this is to send most of the Double Dirty Dozen DOJ and FBI (plus Clapper, Brennan, and Sally Yates) to prison.

        Liked by 2 people

        • Dutchman says:

          Best. However, if not only they, but the larger ideology is exposed, discredited and render impotent to influence public opinion and policy, THAT would be very desirable as well.
          Put it this,way; suppose you could only have ONE, but not both,….which would YOU choose?

          Perp walks and jail time, but the globalists continue to perpetrate their horrific ideology,…or the perps walk,..BUT the whole ideology of Globalism is exposed and discredited as the conmunist scam it is.

          Not saying its a binary choice, just a theoretical question that puts things in perspective.
          To me, the larger goal is, if possible to consign globalism to the ash heap of history, and instill PDJT’s doctrine of “Economic Security is National Security” as a permanent doctrine for America, going forward.

          Again not saying its either/or, and would love to see gallows on the,DC MALL, but if or to the,degree its either/or, I am clear in my iwn mind, what the priority is.

          Liked by 2 people

        • regitiger says:

          yes, the penalties need to be reformed…lets not forget, there are some criminals who look at the downside…if the crime can “pay off” the economic estimate is not to consider penalties into the equation.

          this IS WHY punishing people DOES PREVENT CRIME. The entire notion of justice is to create a risk so steep that it preempts many corrupt people from taking the dark paths. Not enough attention and debate on this superior point.

          one argues successfully, that the ONLY reasons why these conspirators are bold and on tv making the rounds and deliberately flaunting the criminal violations is because there have no downsides…none.

          it’s like the known drug dealer rumbling around town in the 300,000 supercar, flashing his diamonds, demonstrating his is above the law.

          it’s is exactly the same thing

          I want to draw from a common theme nancy and camp have been spewing.


          I agree.

          I’ll be singing that tune ever single day, when that moment comes and indictments are dropped and arrests are made, and homes and assets are seized and prison time is served.

          until the job is incomplete …and that means that under THIS DOJ (and the former for sure) that there is every reason to believe by its lack of actions, that certain people are above the law and protected for all the wrong reasons.

          a special set of enforceable violations needs to be tabled in congress..and certainly the existing laws need to be enforced and prosecuted….harshly. Even if these are not passes, make the effort get the ball rolling…make congress respond in a vote so the public can see for themselves who among these conspirators are truly interested in rule of law and proper justice.

          I’ve sent a few trusted reporters to ask nancy and schumer each these questions about what they believe is a fair punishment for violations against the american people….to fraudulently compose a manufactured set of lies to frame a decorated combat military officer. A concerted and coordinate effort to fraudulently impeach a president, duly elected.

          I want their voices recorded…so we can repeat them in trial…over and over and over again.

          the trial too, one that just began a few days ago, and appropriately one that is just…the court of public opinion!

          Liked by 2 people

  26. MitchRyderDetroitWheels says:

    Both Fox and Republicans have one thing in common…..the only reason many prefer them is only due to their not ABC/CBS/NBC/ and they’re not democrats.


    • Dutchman says:

      Its the PHONY “Conservative alternative” and in addition to decieving many, it occupies and rigorously defends the space OF a “Conservative alternative” to prevent a REAL one from forming.
      Look at how visciously Republicans attack/undermine primary challengers, and how difficult it is to access OAN or RS? (the other one, sorry cerebral flatulence!) and yet Faux is on every cable provider.

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  27. hokkoda says:

    Maybe a bit obvious, but does anyone here really think the Government Party hasn’t come up with a workaround to the FISA wiretaps? The FBI was more than happy to lie to a FISA Court that was little more than a rubber-stamp anyway. It’s not like all the servers and penetration tools and recording devices and so forth are going to be mothballed. All of this spying on US citizens is buried under 20-layers of bureaucratic cement in the form of security classifications and SCI compartments within compartments.

    Not reauthorizing FISA just drives them underground. This mess doesn’t get fixed until we start sending smoke bombs down into the various tentacles of the IC to root out or kill the rats.

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    • Dutchman says:

      Yes and if anyone thinks its only Democrats, or the Obama admin that have exploited the NSA database for political gain/influence, and that the Republicons had “no idea” this,was going on,…and are ONLY fighting any reforms cause they feel this is a powerful tool to fight terrorism,….

      WAKE UP!
      I, personally am not convinced FISA warrants have prevented ONE legitimate terrorist attack.

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      • regitiger says:

        My view, is that this is a bad way to reconcile authenticity of the program.

        it’s not a question of whether or not FISA has or has not preempted terrorism.

        that’s an entirely different channel of argument. I have ZERO issues with FISA, as it primary mission is and should have always been a narrow field of focus pointed at foreign targets who are NOT PROTECTED BY THE US CONSTITUTION.

        pro tip: there was NEVER a solid legal reason why a secret court would ever require determining if foreign targets be afforded any special protections…those are not located in our laws to provide for it. What the IC with congress supplying the fraud has done is conflated to those issues that arrived at a secret court to dwell in both domestic and foreign surveillance…because: that’s exactly how they prefer it to be done.

        It’s a question of simple this:

        WHY is the DOJ so deliberately persuaded that PROVING REASONABLE DOUBTS TO A REGULAR NON-SECRET COURT that MAINTAINS 4th protections is too steep in order to perform its job? That is not just a weak’s intentionally a fraud argument.

        that’s the 9 trillion dollar/pound gorilla they are not talking about.

        the reality is that the DOJ in present form, supplied with a complicit explicit set of law given it by CONGRESS allows it access to power and thus all the proceeds that go with it.

        the reality is that if the IC and DOJ wants to go after a real villain in the US, an american citizen, they have the means AND THE LEGAL APPARATUS to do so.

        they just do not want to ….because this limits the corruption and the rewards that comes from such corruption.

        it’s the same argument, also a fraud, with the iphone drama….give us your encryption and backdoor…we need it to keep you us.

        that didn’t age well…and it never will.

        eventually unless things change significantly the citizens are going to follow a covert strategy to protect themselves from the all spying eye of a tyrannt government.

        no, you cannot go unlocked my house and picking through by gun locker and safe just because some criminal 5 states away, two years ago, may or may not be under investigation.

        how we got here, can only be explained in one way:

        the surveillance state achieves supreme power by invading your privacy…this makes you both less safe and less secure.

        the founders were brilliant.

        and every day since, the corruptors have created all manner of schemes, lawful, or not, to chip away at that awesome product.


        • Dutchman says:

          They are assaulting ALL the Bill of Rights, the Constitution in total, because it stands between them and the control they crave.
          Do not be fooled by McConnell, holding up a kentucky rifle, and saying “cold dead hands”, he wants to take away our guns just as much as Nancy and Chuck, and so does Lindsey.

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  28. timothy says:

    Geirge W. Bush Patriot Act, Republican. Eff em


  29. Bogeyfree says:

    This is the perfect thread to again post the HARD EVIDENCE that can no longer be ignored IMO…..

    Let me ask you….

    When a train crashes and people are harmed, they question the brakeman and do a deep dive investigation of the train’s systems right?

    When a plane crashes and people are harmed, they question the pilot and do a deep dive investigation of the plane’s systems right?

    So why when “the actual operator” of the Hammer Spying device says this…….

    “I produced 600 million pages. If you printed out each page it would be thirty miles high stacked one on top of another. The information is very sensitive information. They collected google searches, credit cards, phone retcords, images, pictures, anything and everything, and they did it for one reason: LEVERAGE. They didn’t know when, but they knew sooner or later they would need that information to use for leverage against a person … The amount of information is mind-boggling, and I gave all of that to FBI Director Comey’s office.”

    NO BODY at the DOJ Questions the actual operator of the Hammer Program and doesn’t bother to conduct a deep dive investigation into this alleged illegal spying on Americans?

    Especially knowing what we know today…..

    1) Adm. Rodgers 6 month NSA Contractor Audit where 85% of all searches were non compliant.

    2) Judge Collyer 99 page report supporting Adm Rodgers findings and suggesting this spying abuse may go back as far as 2012.

    3) Hundreds if not thousands of unmaskings

    4) Numerous allegations of 3-4 NSA Contractors with unfettered access to conduct non stop queries via FIB computer terminals

    5) 47 Hammer Hard Drives with millions of files on surveilled Americans including Judges given to the FIB in 2015

    So with all of this HARD EVIDENCE, doesn’t it scream for the DOJ to conduct a deep and thorough damage assessment, investigation of NSA Contractor Abuse and The Hammer Program to spy and gather data on millions of Americans??

    Why, does Barr seemingly ignore this spying abuse evidence that permeates through the years of 2009-2016? Why??

    IMO these are potentially the bigger crimes and so much easier to investigate and prove as there were only 1-2 layers of perpetrators back then. It was not as convoluted with all the players like we have today involved in this Russia Collusion fraud.

    We must hold AG Barr accountable to looking back at this bigger spying abuse on Americans from 2009-2016 IMO.

    How do we get Mr. Ratcliffe to read CTH?

    Liked by 4 people

  30. Auwtsnae says:

    The “honor system” doesn’t work when the people running it have no honor.

    Liked by 4 people

  31. theoldgoat says:

    Using FISA should not be an “easy” course. No spying on anyone should be done without due cause, beyond “curiosity” or because they might have a glimmer of something that concerns them. Power like this should always be limited and guarded and fully justified till there is enough to cause a real review of the information gathered adds up.

    Power is always abused. Or rather almost always. Few can resist the temptation to abuse the roles entrusted to them to keep only within the guidelines without them going further outside the line. One powerful man who did not abuse his powers, and frequently went with hardships because of it was George Washington. His type of character is exceedingly rare. It is why our Constitution was written as a means to limit those given power, as people with power over others cannot be fully trusted to do what is right.

    Had we not had this abusive system put in place President Trump would not have been so easily spied on by Obama and his political cohorts. General Flynn wouldn’t have been set up, and spent to oblivion for the abuses of power that gave Obama the means to destroy his career and reputation.

    There might be some bad actors who won’t get caught, but more important, there might be a number of innocent people who won’t have their lives ruined by abuses of FISA.

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  32. Payday says:

    Art of the deal? I find it interesting that the turtle supported Radcliffe, meanwhile Grenell subsequently resigned his appointed post. Sure could have used him elsewhere in like fashion.


  33. David Mitchell says:

    This is most awesome; POTUS was able to make Nancy blink, for the first time in who knows how long. Tough to do considering how tightly the pruned-up leathery skin her face is stretched.

    Don’t mess with the Alpha.

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  34. Bert Darrell says:

    Testing. WP has been blocking my postings for no apparent reason. Maybe, after 5 years of perching on a branch of the CTH, WP has decided to apply to me the Tweeter approach.


  35. alliwantissometruth says:

    Now, about that push for mail in voting


  36. Michael Hennessy says:

    Flawed is a charitable description! It was (is) a conscious deception.

    Liked by 3 people

  37. regitiger says:

    Sundance, be advised the technocrats are fully mobilized now…the gloves are off.

    please consider a backup for your website. another means to distribute and share your content.

    don’t hesitate…

    make sure it’s something like cloudflare…a failover strategy that protects the DNS pond.

    Liked by 1 person

  38. The American Patriot says:

    Someone go tell this botox 🤬 which party is in charge of the Senate!


  39. evergreen says:

    EO just issued to hammer social media for censoring. Looks like a pretty big hammer.

    Liked by 2 people

  40. crikey9 says:

    Captains and The Kings….Taylor Caldwell…


  41. Merkin Muffley says:

    Nancy has taken a few defeats lately. Isn’t it nice to have a President who fights back?

    Liked by 4 people

  42. markhagemeister says:

    A recently published article on Wired explores the genesis of the NSA Stellar Wind and Mainway programs in the aftermath of 9/11. Two-hop and three-hop searches are described in the context of Six Degrees of Separation.

    Liked by 1 person

  43. guest4ever says:

    THAT tells us the, “Patriot” (yeah, right!) Act should be repealed, and EVERYTHING comes out. Crush BOTH the CIA and FBI; then burn them down, and salt the earth beneath them. That’s what military intelligence is there for, AND MI has (more/better) built in accountability.

    The REAL problem is our genuine cultural lack of morals!!! DUH!!!

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  44. cantcforest says:

    It seems a lot of Treepers have forgotten that the database was underused or misused in the cases of the Boston Maraton Bombers, the Las Vegas shooting, probably the Musllim shooter at Ft. ?Hood?. There are a couple more examples that I can’t call up, but the point is: the data was apparently collected, but everyone was more interested in blackmail than stopping terrorism.
    Pretty damning of the FBI, CIA, and NSA.

    Liked by 1 person

    • railer says:

      This. The FBI has blown it on many such cases, and meanwhile FISA is available for all Swamp uses.

      Liked by 2 people

    • regitiger says:

      its a point I’ve made quite a few times.

      the best example: two years of mueller, 20 attorneys, 40 million bones, all based on a known fabrication…


      now, on the flip side, BECAUSE OF THIS FRAUD, we have ANOTHER long very expensive and WEAKENED DOJ AND FBI that is trying to sort things out and apply justice. It’s a vicious cycle….certainly worth the effort, but make no mistake..

      NONE OF THIS MAKES OUR COUNTRY SAFER. It is a fragile moment we are in right now…Our enemies are quite aware of this weakness.

      if you go back a few weeks ago, President Trump invited the Military Leadership in for a late Saturday meeting…and was quick to make sure that was released it took place.

      that was the signal to our enemies…we are OPEN FOR BUSINESS!

      if I was a criminal, a terrorist, I would be licking my chops about right now, thinking of all the kinds of chaos options exist while the effects of the last 4 years of corruption at the highest levels of law enforcement have stunted the capabilities.

      we can thank the former regime for putting our nation in a very precarious situation…I have no doubts we will be capable of meeting any threat, but the state of readiness in top main justice and law enforcement domestically is probably no where close to what it should be.

      I am sure AG Barr is aware of this ….but that is NOT AN EXCUSE TO NAVEL GAZING! the more he delays curb stomping these conspirators the more space and uncertainty he helps to establish with otherwise very good hard hitters who are wondering right now: WTF!


  45. hawkins6 says:

    Now what? Rand Paul’s “warrant” proposal seems to be the most reasonable but it might need some tweaking.

    President Trump’s retweet today of Dan Bongino’s tweet of Tucker Carlson’s excoriating video about McConnell’s, Graham’s, Burr’s, Gowdy’s “..and other useless Republican Senators” glowing support for the Mueller/Weissmann Obstruction Trap Hoax and their unyielding support for the FBI at the time was a hard but deserving blow aimed at his own Senators. I wonder how this is playing out behind the scenes.

    (Note–Tucker will not be pleased that his friend Sessions’ face was included in the video)

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  46. ChampagneReady says:

    We have to crack down hard on the FBI’s use of National Security Letters too. This is their favorite way of shuitting up whisteblowers. I never liked the powers that gave them.

    Another thing that I don’t think is well known is that the FBI uses private DETECTIVE agencies to get information that they know they can’t get a judge to approve a warrant. They pay these agencies. Then they use THAT information they get claiming to a judge they found it through legal investigation and parlay it to a warrant.

    It’s just another version of the HAMR, only on a smaller scale. But it has been done a LOT.


  47. sarsfield says:

    “House Speaker Nancy Pelosi sent a letter to members of the Democratic caucus saying she intends to hold negotiations with the Senate on a possible compromise bill that could be passed and sent to Trump.”

    Huh? I read this and almost choked on my daily rye whiskey ration. Then, my radar warning receiver went off. I started ejecting chaff. Turned on the jammers. Sounds too easy – keep an eye on Nancy – this is very un-pelosi -like.


    • railer says:

      Well, Nancy and McConnell and the Chinese all agree that Trump has to be destroyed at all costs. If FISA abuses are exposed, and FISA is removed as a Swamp and Deep State tool, the above parties and their quest suffer significant damage.

      So yeah, we’ll probably see the Uniparty and their Chinese paymasters band together on this. Will it be enough to buy off wayward congresscritters? We’ll see.

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  48. railer says:

    The way McConnell has been ramming through these temporary FISA extensions, you knew it’d come to a head eventually, and now’s the time.

    It’s easy for the Uniparty to get this thing through the Senate, given McConnell, but the House is vulnerable in the coming election. All 435 members are subject to a withering assault from Trump, and Lord only knows how he’d play it, but I bet we here would enjoy it.

    This is what politics is supposed to be about. You take an issue, let it ripen, and then bring it into the election. FISA is ripe now. McConnell hates that actual voters are involved in their government, but it’s how it’s supposed to be. He’d rather a once a year cromnibus budget get passed with everything imaginable stuffed into it, including FISA, but Trump appears to have successfully cleaved McConnell’s Cromnibus and begun to restore some accountability here. It’s sort of a milestone event. No more “We have to vote for it all, we have no choice.”

    I guess Trump’s shutdown is having some beneficial effects here.

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  49. owtolunch says:

    There are no consequences for errors or mistakes in the FISA process…

    VERIFIED as a descriptor has not been enforced…

    those signing the documents are not held to a standard that ensures submitting true and correct information…

    there needs to be a consequence for submission of incomplete or incorrect information that will make people take it serious – fines? termination? mandatory remedial oversight? performance reviews by an oversight panel lasting many months?, expulsion from the legal / law enforcement field…leave without pay… 3 strikes… serious penalties for non-performance…

    Under the Department of Transportation rules for hazardous materials they have consequences for errors and mistakes on simple paperwork… a misspelling on a bill of lading gets you a significant fine…same with an improper abbreviation.. DOT is serious about their paperwork….some of these fines run into many thousands of $$$

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    • hokkoda says:

      The issue isn’t whether or not it’s a crime…because swearing out a false warrant and falsifying official government forms an so forth is a criminal act.

      The issue is “DOJ declines to prosecute”. The Government Party is incapable of policing its own people. They all agree not to police each other lest they themselves be policed. And they won’t tolerate that!


  50. mrboompi says:

    The FISA process was established to provide a veneer of accountability, and that’s about all. We were to assume if a warrant or request was granted by the FISA judges, it was for legitimate, legal, and honest purposes. We now know it was probably used to allow all manners of surveillance without proper justification. The only time the FISA judges get upset is when the people who lie to them are caught. The people who would end up writing a new bill would make sure the process would continue without interruption, as they are no doubt paid to do.


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