FISA Deal – House Rules Committee Releases Text of FISA Agreement….

The House Rules Committee is releasing text of proposed changes to FISA (full pdf below).  The “deal” is intended to reauthorize the FISA “business records provision”, the “roving wiretap” provision, the “lone wolf” provision, and the more controversial bulk metadata provisions [Call Detail Records (CDR)], all parts of the Patriot Act.

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(House Rules Link pdf)

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205 Responses to FISA Deal – House Rules Committee Releases Text of FISA Agreement….

  1. This bill simply does not go nearly far enough. It continues to put the authorization process into the hands of a “court” (sic …) which cannot hear from anyone other than the Government and which cannot verify that what it’s saying is factual. The bill also does not expressly say that Americans cannot be spied-on without a search warrant. In other words, the 4th Amendment continues to be blithely ignored. And we do that at our own grave peril.

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  2. sundance says:

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    • Eric C. says:

      Sundance,

      You think this is PDJT’s way of giving them an opportunity to fix their prior malfeasance before releasing the current acting ODNI to make public the proof?

      The old, “we’ll see what they do”

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    • DeWalt says:

      It’s an honor system to be used by people with no honor.

      Liked by 10 people

    • Jederman says:

      I believe the BIGGEST hurdle AG Barr has to deal with is his lack of credility on this issue. Until the coup perps are prosecuted and punished he’s just another DS opportunist.

      BTW, exactly how many terrorists attacks have they prevented with this heavy handed abuse of the 4th amendment recently? Compare that to the thousands obama illegally surveilled using this tool and only to suppress his political opposition like some third world jeffe.

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      • richard verney says:

        Terr0rist attacks do not normally bring down the Government, but the FISA abuse was almost a succcessful coup, and certainly stymied the Administration for the entirity of President Trump’s first term. The amount of harm that this abuse has inflicted upon America, is arguably worse than 9/11. I am not seeking to down play the loss of life, but merely looking at the wider picture.

        Either the perpetrators need to be held accountable to the fullest extent of the law, so as to act as a deterent, or there needs to be radical overhaul; at the very least making it illegal to spy on a politician, or someone connected to a political campaign.

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        • The Devilbat says:

          Due to the Russia hoax, the spying and the phony impeachment attempt over the Ukraine telephone call I propose that Donald J Trump should be allowed to have the American people vote for him in 2024 for a third term to make up for the massive amount of time that he has lost due to intentional fraud by the democrats while he was trying to carry out his duties as president of the United States of America, and YES I am deadly serious.

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    • islandpalmtrees says:

      I don’t see why the FISA Act can not be challenged at the Supreme Court. This ACT is clearly unconstitutional. Their must be one good lawyer willing to take this up?

      Make the battle what it is, the FISA ACT vs the 4th Amendment. Expose, money behind act and were it is going.

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    • islandpalmtrees says:

      Petition, 15 million supporters saying in effect, remove the FISA ACT.

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    • theasdgamer says:

      The game is ratcheted. Dems get to spy on repubs. Repubs don’t get to spy on dems. This is Ok with the RINOs because the only threat to them is from repubs.

      McConnell isn’t a RINO, but he’s out for McConnell only. Graham is a RINO. Repubs can work with McConnell and bully Graham. You have to wear iron gloves when you deal with them.

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  3. sonoftrump says:

    No deal until the rule of law is upheld and those who weaponized government agencies, are prosecuted.

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  4. MIKE says:

    Let it die. The patriot act and the FISC have been unconstitutional from their evil inception. Unless we want to amend the COTUS(I don’t).
    There is nothing good about Govt’ unwarranted spying on its’ citizens, let alone using the court to amass dirt on political opponents.
    Let it die, or veto the he// out of the thing. Please Mr. President. Please.

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  5. John Comnenus says:

    I hope Trump says No reauthorisation without accountability for prior misuse

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  6. Reserved55 says:

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    • hawkins6 says:

      Biggs–“The introduced version would allow President @realDonaldTrump to be surveilled just as he was in 2016 based on what I’ve read”

      If any dirty cop abusers involved in the previous FISA process against P Trump are eventually indicted (which is highly unlikely) then it will be even harder for a prosecutor to get a conviction with a slightly revised process that also fails to prevent abuse but does provide the FISA applicants with considerable one sided latitude regarding who they investigate etc. If the lawmakers don’t care about fixing the abuse loopholes why should a judge and jury.

      Under wishy washy Barr’s leadership, the worst that will likely happen to any scapegoat lawyer like Holloway and Clinesmith that allegedly lied to the FISA Court or fudged documents is probably a short tern disbarment until after the election.

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  7. Jus wundrin says:

    President Trump, veto this POS bill as soon as it hits your desk.

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  8. dimbulbz says:

    This is government tyranny, plain and simple. And we let it happen – and to a PRESIDENT???? George Bush was not the friend of the Bill of Rights (we know Obama wasn’t) . We are the stupid ones if we let this continue. Once an organization (government) has proven it is unworthy of our trust, why on Earth would we allow that to continue? But, We are, if anything stupid and lazy and I guess we deserve to have our lives intruded upon by un-elected tyrants.

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  9. calfcreek says:

    Maybe I’m missing something but to me, it seems to legalize what they did and provide a means to cover their tracks better, i.e. destroying documents and not allowing disclosure in courts. Am I reading funny?

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  10. Richie says:

    Barr turned out to be a real swamper didnt he. Durham investigation results is a foregone conclusion. I expect Trump will continue to praise Barr until the investigation is concluded so as not to give Barr any real reason to blame the President for not letting him do his job.

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  11. Bone Fish says:

    It’s time to trash this unconstitutional spyware act and every politician who supports it.

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  12. Lion2017 says:

    Declassify!!

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  13. mg says:

    Barr continuing to do his job perfectly for the deep state. He is good at what he does.

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  14. IGiveUp says:

    If Trump vetoes, how does Barr survive this vote of no-confidence? Doesn’t Barr have to resign?

    What’s going on here? Is Trump trying to get rid of him this way?

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  15. mg says:

    Someone with way more smarts than me a week or so ago mentioned Trump appointing Eugene Scalia as A.G. Something to do with 210 days was talked about. Can one of you really smart individuals explain?
    Mahalo

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  16. bullnuke says:

    The big tell that no one who abused the system will be held accountable is AG Barr wanting a clean renewal. If he agreed that the system was abused he would want changes and people in jail. Let it die unless there are jail sentences for those involved.
    Another thing, how can a bill be marked up to change FISA rules if there was never a public hearing in the HSCI? /s

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    • We’ve got laws against bribery, taking payoffs, against the CIA operating in the US, against malicious prosecutions, presenting false evidence to a judge, leaking top secrets, etc.–and none of these laws are being enforced. We need to change the FISA law so Barr can not enforce those, either.

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  17. Terri says:

    Let this abusive violation of our rights die! Our President won’t sign this piece of waste if it makes it to his desk. This is insulting!

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  18. Matthew LeBlanc says:

    Toss this garbage in the trashcan.

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  19. dwpender says:

    Don, Jr., Eric, Jared, Ivanka — Wake up and talk DJT into vetoing this.

    Yes, your father or father-in-law was THE target, but Scheme Team spied on all of you in order to get the leverage to force him from office! Think you weren’t among the repeatedly “unmasked?” Think again.

    Ivanka — With Weissman leading the charge, even well before the SC appointment, the goal was to nail Jared and YOU for alleged financial “fraud” on some joint return or financial statement. Coup Crew though your father would resign, rather than see you sent to jail. (No doubt they intended to threaten the “full Manafort” for you as they did Flynn.)

    Melania — IF Baron was not a minor, they would have targeted him too!

    It’s time for one of those legendary Trump family meetings!

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  20. DeWalt says:

    The government never gives up it’s toys. At least they are being somewhat honest that it will remain. The alternative is it will go dark and they will deny it’s being used.

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  21. dallasdan says:

    There is much outrage on this thread.

    The signal for the fix being in was McConnell and Barr publicly calling for a clean, unfettered continuation of the prior legislation. McConnell had the votes before he took a stand.

    The usual patriots and a few chameleons wail against it, particularly the attention-seeker Rand Paul, but they are shouting into the darkness and they know it.

    The re-authorization needed an extension to get the votes in-order, and it happened. Moreover, the timing is right to vote on it at the eleventh hour and then get out of town. It will be old, forgotten news after the recess.

    IMO, the President won’t veto a re-authorization because McConnell and his cabal have leverage over his legislative and appointments agenda and they, and the President, know it.

    Screams for declassification to expose the depth and breadth of the corrupted FISA process will be no more than noise. That ship sank long ago.

    We will hear a lame retort that the new DNI will police the FISA process, which won’t happen without changes to the corrupt shot-callers and judges, which won’t happen.

    It will be business as usual in the swamp.

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    • I’m not so sure, Dallas …

      If this President wanted to be “part of the Swamp,” by far the easiest course for him to take would have been to concede the whole damned thing to Hillary. But … he didn’t.

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      • dallasdan says:

        Not wanting to be part of the swamp is very different from having the power to drain it. The President has performed heroically against the DS, but he is an army of one who has been put on an island.

        I liken the situation to my disgust while watching a patient’s health fail when I had done my utmost to save him/her. Good intentions and zeal are often overwhelmed by reality. JMO

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  22. TRProst says:

    All I see is a bunch of “; and” being replaced with a semicolon and Semicolons being replaced with a “.” and other grammatical edits. What a farce. If this arrives on Trump’s desk for signature, he should sit on it and let the law expire.

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  23. FPCHmom says:

    PDJT’s veto of this and congress having to go out and publicly defend it, as well as the media’s criticism of him for the veto would bring a lot of sunlight to the abuses we all know about that the media have refused to cover.

    If they need to spy on someone so bad, let them go to a judge and get a warrant the old fashioned way – foreigners too.

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  24. islandpalmtrees says:

    THAT’S SURPRISE?

    Rep. Matt Gaetz Tests Negative for COVID-19 – Nasty Liberals Hit the Hardest
    March 10, 2020, by Jim Hoft

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  25. usayes says:

    FISA AND the FISA judges are totally unnecessary in our Constitutional Republic. We are not a nation of spies. We are (or should be) a nation of laws. President Trump will NOT let this stand.

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  26. trapper says:

    No

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  27. billybob says:

    Anybody arrested today?

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  28. citizen817 says:

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  29. WES says:

    Irony. Take a dirty bill and call it clean!

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  30. zekness says:

    I am only interested in knowing the chief designers of this Bill/Act…the special shadow organizations that actually write these laws…..I want to know who they are …where they live…how they make their money…and where their children go to school..what church they go to..or not…where and how they spend their money…what they have said in private…and to whom….and everyone they know or mentioned or even alluded to in casual conversation…I am on a hunt to find the crime and I will not stop looking until I find one, or I will simply manufacture one or hundreds of crimes…and before that is complete….I will ransack their homes…show up with paramilitary joint operations special teams…blackmail them to testify against my true enemies, trump up any charges and force them into a financial trap…seize their assets…and before I am through I will leak all manner of BS to the press who will design it for maximum effect. Then I will pay for a foreign spy to collect BS manufactured BS from a KNOWN corrupt government to invent charges of the most base and awful behavior and claim it to be true …and before I am through, I will go to a secret court…and I get a compliant judge in that secret court to give me all the superpowers of the world’s most elite top shelf surveillance apparatus to capture everything and all things there is to know about these people and everyone that they know…and even people that just happened to walk down the same sidewalk in the last 2 years. I will just scoop it all up. and before I am through, I will start a nearly 2 year investigation that will use the most powerful tools of the justice department to attack them with the goal of ruining them and putting them in prison for being traitors to the entire world!! and when I am through I will make a fortune, both politically, and in real money using this power…lots and lots of money.

    and you know why I can do these things?….Because I have the powers to do it….the reasons why I am doing it is because I WANT THESE POWERS…THESE POWERS GIVE ME THE ULTIMATE FORCE THAT CANNOT BE STOPPED>>CANNOT BE INSPECTED>>>I WANT TO DO THESE THINGS BECAUSE I DESIRE TO BE IN CONTROL AND VICTORY AND POWER IS THE REWARD. I WANT THESE POWERS BECAUSE NO ONE WILL EVER DARE TO DOUBT ME OR TO ATTEMPT TO TAKE MY POWER AWAY. I WILL HAVE THE VERY POWER THAT CANNOT BE REMOVED>>>UNLESS I DECIDE TO REMOVE THEM. AND I HAVE NO PLANS WHATSOEVER TO REMOVE THESE POWERS.

    2020…the current reality of the police state. Within the bowels and at the highest levels of the corrupt state of the United States Government.

    I met a traveller from an antique land,
    Who said—“Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
    Stand in the desert. . . . Near them, on the sand,
    Half sunk a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
    And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
    Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
    Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
    The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed;
    And on the pedestal, these words appear:
    My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings;
    Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!
    Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
    Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare
    The lone and level sands stretch far away.”

    – Glirastes

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  31. El Torito says:

    He was only running to enrich himself further, as I’ve said all along. Equally a puppet of the club as the rest of them. The size of his base of support was always exaggerated and college kids won’t vote even when they are promised that their debt will be expunged. Bernie has figured out that 2nd place pays better.

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  32. OhNoYouDont says:

    H.R. 6172: USA FREEDOM Reauthorization Act of 2020

    To amend the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 to prohibit the production of certain business records, and for other purposes.

    https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/116/hr6172

    The bill’s titles are written by its sponsor.

    Jerrold Nadler
    Sponsor. Representative for New York’s 10th congressional district. Democrat.

    1 cosponsors (1D) (show)
    Schiff, Adam [D-CA28] (joined Mar 10, 2020)

    Status – Introduced on Mar 10, 2020

    This bill is in the first stage of the legislative process. It was introduced into Congress on March 10, 2020. It will typically be considered by committee next before it is possibly sent on to the House or Senate as a whole.

    SourceCongress.gov

    —–

    Related Bills
    Legislative action may be ocurring on one of these bills in lieu of or in parallel to action on this bill.

    H.Res. 891: Providing for consideration of the joint resolution (S.J. Res. 68) to direct the removal of United States Armed Forces from hostilities against the Islamic Republic of Iran that have not been authorized by Congress; providing for consideratio

    H.Res. 891 (Procedurally-Rel)
    Providing for consideration of the joint resolution (S.J. Res. 68) to direct the removal …
    Ordered Reported
    Last Action: Mar 10, 2020

    —–

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  33. OhNoYouDont says:

    U.S. House Schedule for Wednesday, March 11, 2020
    BEARING DRIFT / March 11, 2020
    https://bearingdrift.com/2020/03/11/u-s-house-schedule-for-wednesday-march-11-2020/

    WEDNESDAY, MARCH 11TH
    On Wednesday, the House will meet at 10:00 a.m. for morning hour and 12:00 p.m. for legislative business. First votes expected: 1:30 p.m. – 2:30 p.m. Last votes expected: 4:30 p.m. – 5:30 p.m.

    One Minute Speeches

    S.J.Res. 68 – A joint resolution to direct the removal of United States Armed Forces from hostilities against the Islamic Republic of Iran that have not been authorized by Congress (Closed Rule, One Hour of Debate) (Sponsored by Sen. Tim Kaine / Foreign Affairs Committee)

    H.R. 6172 – USA FREEDOM Reauthorization Act of 2020 (Closed Rule, One Hour of Debate) (Sponsored by Rep. Nadler/ Rep. Schiff / Judiciary Committee / Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence)

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  34. Mean Old Man says:

    if trump votes on this, he loses my vote… NO FISA! Under any circumstance.. I’d rather be killed by ISIS at the local Wal Mart than give these absurd 3 character agencies any power… STOP FEEDING THE MONSTER!!

    we are at war with the FBI, CIA, and the DOJ!!
    they are the enemy

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  35. Les D says:

    Turtle isn’t going to put PT in the Veto hot seat. The FISC judges aren’t getting their free 1x every 3 months, 1 week all expenses paid trip to DC trip. FISA will be down for a while, officially. Unofficially the 3 digit snakes will still do what they do, the blowers will lose their whistles.

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