The Sentencing of Michael Flynn Represents a Very Big Problem for AG Bill Barr…

For the past week CTH has been outlining some lengthy research, highlighting key issues to help understand the background of what is evident.  If you’ve followed along, in this outline the individual pieces will all come together.  Bill Barr has a very big problem…

Andrew McCabe cannot be prosecuted in 2020 for the same reason James Wolfe could not be prosecuted in 2018. When we understand why we realize the problem that Michael Flynn now represents to U.S. Attorney Bill Barr.

United States Attorney General Bill Barr was not around in 2017 or 2018 when the DOJ was faced with the issues resulting from an investigation of intelligence leaks and Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (SSCI) Security Director James Wolfe.

When the prosecution of SSCI Director James Wolfe was being considered, AG Jeff Sessions was recused; the Robert Mueller probe was ongoing; and as a consequence Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein and U.S. Attorney for DC Jessie Liu were decision-makers.

I’m not going to repeat all the issues, you can re-read them HERE; however, the baseline is that Wolfe could not be prosecuted without running the risk of collapsing key institutions of the U.S. government. The consequences of a Wolfe prosecution were beyond the capacity of Rod Rosenstein, or the DOJ to handle.  There would have been massive constitutional crises created and the literal definition of ‘sedition‘ was at the center of it.

Accepting the 2018 objectives from Rosenstein; and factually I doubt Jeff Sessions would have made a different decision even if he was not recused; when AG Barr takes the helm in February 2019 he is forced to carry-over those same objectives.

In essence, regardless of Bill Barr’s outlook or opinion of what took place, he had no alternative except to defend the previous decisions.  As a result Barr has no option except to protect Rod Rosenstein.

If former Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe was ever to be prosecuted the same issues that surfaced with James Wolfe would surface again.  The actions by DAG Rosenstein in 2017 merged with the objectives of Andrew McCabe at the same time. {SEE HERE}

It can be debated whether Rosenstein collaborated with McCabe purposefully, or whether he was blind to the prior year corrupt activity within the DOJ/FBI and fell into a trap.  It doesn’t really matter what Rosenstein’s 2017 motives were; the facts show Rosensteins’ actions facilitated the goals of McCabe and the corrupt actors within the DOJ/FBI.

Those actions had consequences, very serious consequences, and those consequences are what matters.

There is no way of prosecuting Andrew McCabe without putting Rod Rosenstein into the same crosshairs of consequence. {Go Deep} Rosenstein facilitated the FBI operations being run by Comey, McCabe, Baker, Strzok, Page, Clinesmith, Pientka and eventually culminating in Robert Mueller, Andrew Weissman et al.

When you truly understand this context you also understand why Joseph Pientka III has a blanket protective order over him.  The all-encompassing protective order is as much about preserving and protecting the institution of the DOJ as it is protecting the fulcrum of corrupt activity Supervisory Special Agent One, Joseph Pientka III, represents.

The DOJ had to throw a bag over Pientka or eliminate him.  Thankfully, and not surprisingly, they chose the former and now he’s under protection.

DAG Rosenstein could not prosecute James Wolfe without exposing ‘seditious‘ activity within the U.S. government itself.  Not pretend sedition or theoretical sedition, but an actual pre-planned subversive operation with forethought and malice.

Likewise AG Bill Barr cannot prosecute Andrew McCabe without exposing the same ‘seditious‘ activity; which also encompasses the activity of Rod Rosenstein.  Whether Barr wants to protect Rosenstein is moot; if Barr wants to protect the institutions from sunlight on two years of actual seditious activity, he has to protect Rosenstein.

It’s the underlying activity that cannot be allowed to surface; the institutions of government are not strong enough, nor are they set-up to handle, prosecutions that overlap all three branches of government. [ex. read former questions]

However, that said, now AG Bill Barr is facing a downstream and parallel issue within the prosecution of Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn.  How can Michael Flynn be sentenced for lying to the FBI when the DOJ is necessarily refusing to prosecute Andrew McCabe (at least what has been made public) for the exact same behavior?

Against this dynamic, the DOJ has two options: (Option A) go even harder at General Flynn using additional charges that are not as comparable to McCabe.  (Option B) find a way to drop the prosecution.

This dynamic is why the McCabe prosecution was not resolved in 2018.  This issue explains why there has been such a delay in the McCabe issue(s) since Bill Barr came into the picture in February 2019.

If Flynn just took the plea, everything would have been easier for the DOJ.  There would have been nothing to compare between the two, and time would have created distance to avoid any real comparison.  But Flynn reversed position and backed away from the plea.

So what do we see?

We see McCabe given an institutionally necessary free pass, and now Barr bringing in another federal prosecutor from St. Louis to reevaluate Flynn’s position.  The two options are again being debated: Crush Flynn on other matters; or drop it.

Take the totality of all these issues together.  Think about them for a while…

…Now do we see why AG Bill Barr needs President Trump to shut up?

Rod Rosenstein essentially protected James Wolfe because he saw no way the institutions of the U.S. government could survive the potential evidence in a trial.  Setting aside opinion on Rosenstein’s enabling of the sedition; enabling underpinning seditious activity; the decision makes sense.  [Consequences too big to jail]

Bill Barr is essentially protecting Andrew McCabe, and as a consequence Rod Rosenstein, out of a similar necessity.  From AG Barr’s perspective, there’s no way the institutions of government could survive the potential evidence at a McCabe trial; and McCabe would call Rosenstein as a defense witness.   [Consequences too big to jail]

At the heart of the matter, in the real activity that took place, there was a multi-branch seditious effort to remove President Donald J Trump.  From the perspective of those charged with the actual administration of justice – there is no way to put this in front of the American public and have the institutions survive.  What we are witnessing is a dance between increasingly narrowing rails and the DOJ trying to find an exit.

All of this 2020 angst is a downstream consequence of the 2018 decision not to prosecute James Wolfe; and the specific reason why they made that decision.

Those who framed the sedition recognize Bill Barr’s outlook on institutional preservation is an opportunity to weaponize against him. That is why four prosecutors could so easily defy his authority and set Barr up with the Roger Stone sentencing recommendation.

The Lawfare team know Bill Barr is trying to navigate away from exposing seditious  corruption the same Lawfare team helped facilitate.  The Lawfare group know Barr cannot prosecute McCabe; and they know exactly why. The Lawfare group can also see Barr protecting Rosenstein; and again, they know the reason why.

The corrupt crew saw what the DOJ and FBI did when they had the opportunity to expose it all in 2018.  DAG Rosenstein was afraid.

In 2020 AG Barr’s value for the institutions is also why AG Barr is afraid…

The seditious group filled the DOJ fire truck tanks with gasoline, and then they lit the House on fire.  General Flynn is trapped on the roof…. The neighborhood is shouting at fire Chief Barr “put out the fucking fire you idiots“, and wondering why everyone is just watching the House burn. Meanwhile, there’s several firefighters who know what’s in the tanks, and they are standing, smiling, hoses at the ready, cheering-on the angry shouts from the crowd…

Washington Post Article Here

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President Trump says: Point the compromised firehoses at the smiling firefighters while making them hold the Zippo’s… then watch what happens.

The only way I can see out of this mess; the one crack in the current lock box; is the FISA court order for the DOJ to present the identified downstream consequences from fraud upon the court.  The FISC might actually be the ladder truck here.  With the DOJ and FBI currently assembling the investigative consequences, ie. the sequestration material, Flynn’s current legal status might be identified as an outcropping of fraudulently obtained FISA warrants.

Let’s hope those on the sequestration mission can return the information prior to the flames reaching the roof…

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1,327 Responses to The Sentencing of Michael Flynn Represents a Very Big Problem for AG Bill Barr…

  1. Pew-Anon says:

    Here’s a purely pragmatic thought. Let’s say this involves convicting multiple Senators. Do those Senators come from states with Democrat governors? Because the governor would appoint a replacement Senator. Would this result in losing the GOP Senate majority? Perhaps these are the stakes. Nothing short of this would give me pause. The institutional integrity be damned. Integrity is already destroyed by allowing sedition to go unpunished.

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    • nimrodman says:

      dunno, but your question prompted me to research how much of an issue this might be. here’s a list:

      Republican US Senators from states with Democratic Governors.
      1)Gardner-CO
      2)Cassidy-LA
      3)Kennedy-LA
      4)Daines-MT
      5)Burr-NC
      6)Tillis-NC
      7)Toomey-PA
      8)Moore Capito-WV

      Republican US Senators from states with Independent Governor
      1)Murkowski-AK
      2)Sullivan-AK

      https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029281289

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  2. IGiveUp says:

    “The Sentencing of Michael Flynn Represents a Very Big Problem for AG Bill Barr…”

    AG Bill Barr Represents a Very Big Problem for America

    Liked by 14 people

    • Coast says:

      And…
      “There is no way of prosecuting Andrew McCabe without putting Rod Rosenstein into the same crosshairs of consequence.”
      To this I say “so”?

      Liked by 8 people

    • trnathens says:

      It finally hit Sundance how big and bad this is. The revelation that the SSCI, FBI, CIA, and foreign intelligence agencies coordinated to take out PDJT would destabilize our entire country, and therefore the world. No exaggeration or hyperbole.

      The revelation itself could start a civil war. Do you think the other side will be convinced? Or just sit around and accept what sounds fantastical? Of course not. Think Antifa will sit on their hands? No.

      We’ve been reading in detail for THREE YEARS the minutiae of this case, and we want the American public to understand it, with a national election as a backdrop, in less than 9 months?

      I keep coming back to that photo-op at the White House in 2017: “The Calm before the storm.”

      This isn’t over by a long shot, on the other hand: caveat emptor.

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      • Boots says:

        ” The revelation that the SSCI, FBI, CIA, and foreign intelligence agencies coordinated to take out PDJT would destabilize our entire country.”
        —–
        So what? We leave the inner rot in place so it festers and rots some more, and eventually collapses “our entire country”?

        You don’t leave the garbage in the house. You take it out to the curb. SD is surely right about all the causes, maybe even that the country will “destabilize”. So what if it does? It’s already destabilized, mostly due to MSM feeding millions of stupid Americans what they want those stupids to believe.

        If you have cancer you either cut it out and risk death through the operation, or leave it in and die anyway. Cut it out now, I say. I’d rather risk the operation for a chance to be a healthy country again than die slowly and horrifically from the rot that’s already killed much of America as we knew it.

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        • trnathens says:

          So what if it does?
          The naivete and arrogance on display is stunning.
          Thankfully (hopefully?) people like you are not making decisions in this matter.

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          • trnathens says:

            Did I say anything about leaving it in place?
            The destabilizing effect would immediately be felt on stock prices, which impacts confidence, which impacts business, which impacts employment, which impacts the local economy. Which steps on the world economy, that is already hurting.

            Downstream effects.

            There are ways of fixing the problem, without BROADCASTING everything to the world. Do you think China will sit still if we’re destabilized? Or Iran? Or Russia? Or anyone with goals, desires, ambitions that are contrary to ours? If we’re destabilized, what about the world oil supply, which impacts the world economy. When do World Wars start? Usually contemporaneously with acute economic or political crises.

            So what if it does, you say?!

            If we’re going to be giving and sharing ideas here, they should be constructive. Stop blathering on about declassify and reveal. Instead, be thinking how we can fix this without everyone in the world knowing all of our dirty laundry, so our country can continue on as the moral pillar that it is. Otherwise we sound like petulant children. We’re the adults. Let’s come up with solutions on how to fix it that make sense, and take into account the INSANE complexities and ramifications that will/can occur.

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  3. JohnCasper says:

    The sad truth is that save for Trump and a few others in positions of any power, America has become what the Founding Fathers rebelled against.

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  4. litlbit2 says:

    Well Whoopie for us, we must protect corruption, evil, lying, bodybags, under the table payments? How bout turning the House of Representatives into a brothel, taxpayer funding of child trafficking and unlimited hidden of shore sex, murder in a prison cell for vip protection, murder of military personnel to cover gun running, secret Foreign IRA for Representatives family members, bodybags of whistleblowers of truth?

    But by all means protect this evil corrupt pig sty of a organization! Why because this electorate just can not withstand a honest Justice Department! Explain to me again the difference between Epstein, Weinstein, Billy Bob, Soros, Hillary, Comey, Podesta, and the AG Department? Take your time I got thirty seconds and please do not bore me!

    I’m so blessed I never had to call any of the above Father or Dad! What a sick bunch!

    Think when they meet their maker, and they will, and they respond the devil made me do it! 👹👹

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    • CM-TX says:

      I’m just saying…
      ⚠️ (Naughty Word Alert)

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    • Jim Raclawski says:

      we can hope the “ushers” help the poor folks into the correct line….. they’ve lived the greater part of their adult lives following the wrong “conductor” …

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    • donna kovacevic says:

      Please excuse my ignorance here, I found it rather odd Mueller’s wife and Barr’s wife going to Bible study together, at this late stage of their life. We start our children at the age of 5 6 the latest every Friday night for 2 hours at our church hall to learn all about the Bible, the continue until the age of 14. There are different groups taught by our 2 priests and teachers that know the Bible. My thought about the two wives was they know their husbands are corrupt, so perhaps by going they may get a pass from our Father?? I am totally confused and alarmed at all the evil corruption. These people must not know or believe there is a God. Surprise Bagpipes you along with all of us will be judged by all the thoughts and actions we took in our life.

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      • litlbit2 says:

        Not ignorance, as those are valid concerns. However imho, church or Bible study may or may not have occurred until later. IMO the exposed corruption of Mueller began years ago. In regards to Barr he does have much experience at running cover or excusing very inhuman behaviors in order to protect institutions doing evil things. Whether any of them recognize there is a greater power or not. I am certain as tomorrow the sun will rise in the east and set in the west, we all must answer when the time comes. I pray for all knowing, I fall short, but each must decide. If you are going to error why not error on the positive side?

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  5. jx says:

    Covering up sedition joins one to the seditionists. The public knows what happened. Excuse making turns my stomach.

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    • sundance says:

      If the public knew what happened, we would not be having an election this year.

      Liked by 7 people

      • Jimmy R says:

        Can you make this plausible to us, please, SD? It seems like wild speculation.

        1. Several dozen members of the DS get indicted, the rot gets exposed.
        2. ???
        3. The election gets suspended

        What is step 2?

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      • samwise163 says:

        The average American knows nothing of this. That includes middle-class, voting “conservatives” in middle America. You discuss this at a tailgate, and people look at you like you forgot to take your crazy pills. We are an uniformed electorate. We are what our founding fathers warned us about. This comment excludes Treepers and SD. SD is the modern day Isaiah.

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      • Steve Saaf says:

        If what you describe is true, we no longer have a Constitution, BoR, DoI, or The Rule of Law. And the word “institution” is just an abstraction, a concept that consists of real American citizens. “Institutional preservation” here is nothing more than CYA and Save Face for those people who are now in control.

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        • islandpalmtrees says:

          Those in control of “Institutional preservation” wont the status quo. Corrupt Institutions controlled by them or their Friends. What we have is the equivalent of the man behind the curtain .

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      • kleen says:

        Exactly!
        Now watch the people with behind the scenes knowledge like Gowdy, and many other elected officials and listen to them make predictions about the election as if this will be just another election, and they spend a lot time debating tactics and ways to win.

        Well, what do they know? Sounds like they know the Durham bust will not happen. That’s the only way will have another normal election.

        Anyone with certainty that Durham will expose the corruption would be saying: Trump has no competition, once the coup is exposed, and the whole country knows he was wronged his constitutional right violated etc and half of DC indicted, many elected officials having to vacate their seat, we will have record number of seats to be filled and this will be unprecedented. All normal rules will not apply. Forget the usual election games, it would so devastating we wouldn’t have an election this year.

        But no one is saying anything like that.

        NO ONE!

        Just like the past midterm election. I was so sure Trump was going to declassify and we would have a massive red wave and I didn’t get it why no one was considering that until… there was no declassification and Muller still was terrorizing our people.

        It wasn’t baked in the cake because it wasn’t going to happen. Same thing now.

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      • WSB says:

        SD, I am trying to figure out what is going on…

        “President Trump says: Point the compromised firehoses at the smiling firefighters while making them hold the Zippo’s… then watch what happens.

        The only way I can see out of this mess; the one crack in the current lock box; is the FISA court order for the DOJ to present the identified downstream consequences from fraud upon the court. The FISC might actually be the ladder truck here. With the DOJ and FBI currently assembling the investigative consequences, ie. the sequestration material, Flynn’s current legal status might be identified as an outcropping of fraudulently obtained FISA warrants.

        Let’s hope those on the sequestration mission can return the information prior to the flames reaching the roof…”

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      • VandalizeDuhMastuhsAlgorithms says:

        Too many of us *do* know, as you’ve discussed before.

        Many of us would be okay if the election was put off until this gangrene is dealt with.

        And many of us *are* passing the word around.

        And many of us are not really all that surprised with any of this – heartbroken, dismayed, angry, yes. Surprised, no.

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      • VandalizeDuhMastuhsAlgorithms says:

        Many of us do know and are working hard to spread this knowledge.

        Many of us would be ok if the election were delayed while the gangrene is dealt with.

        Many of us down deep are not surprised. Heartbroken, dismayed, angry, yes. But too many marionette strings are being illuminated; strings many of us sort of guessed at or only saw in part.

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      • Jim Raclawski says:

        yea… building public stocks….
        and I realize this is just my personal angst & expression of extreme frustration … but allowing cancer to continue will be 100% fatale … always (unless we’re hopefully expecting a friggin miracle..) this is a mess of our making…. we need to stamp out & fix this subversion…
        this is just me… but PDJT got this much exposed by NOT being controlled… by instinctively knowing when to “pull the pin&let slip the spoon…” continue on course… never be steered off target..
        IMHO…
        AG Barr declared his “hold cards” during his Alaska vacation presser…. sacrifice wherever & whatever is necessary to preserve&protect the the great “institutions” of government ……
        get LTG Flynn back to his family… set Ms. Powell loose with a special WH position…. to put whoever needs to be… before judge&jury–come what may….
        SEMPER FI…. through to the bitter end…

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      • Linda K. says:

        OK. I’ll buy. Why would there be no elections if the public knew what happened?

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    • Jimmy R says:

      Accessory to sedition after the fact.

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    • JohnCasper says:

      Silence in the face of evil is itself evil: God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act.
      – Dietrich Bonhoeffer

      Liked by 8 people

    • CM-TX says:

      So AG Barr,

      Should we consider you an Accessory during, OR after-the-fact?
      Just wondering, given your FAILURE/REFUSAL to prosecute a Seditious Conspiracy to OVERTHROW the President of the US?

      – We The People

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    • Robert Smith says:

      Very little of the public knows what really happened. Most are just fans cheering for their team.

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  6. CET says:

    Its simpler than this. Barr is on the wrong side. Just what is the job he can’t do while Trump keeps tossing out the truth? He is bringing in a ringer to deflect blame over what he is about to do to Flynn and Stone. Just like he did regarding the Weaver’s. It’s the simplest explanation and the most compelling. It’s simple. It just isn’t easy.

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  7. kleen says:

    Hostage exchange. Barr will “free Flynn” in exchange for us to shut up about McCabe and go away.

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    • Burnt Toast says:

      Counter Offer

      They can keep Flynn for every. single. last. one of theirs.

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    • JohnCasper says:

      52 Americans were held hostage for 444 days by Iran.

      Is Barr tring to beat that record with Flynn?

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    • Linda K. says:

      First they give us Flynn back, then we beat the crap out of them.

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    • Robert Smith says:

      How about you free Flynn and Stone and you don’t get fired?

      Here’s the sales pitch, which shouldn’t need to be given, Barr will be the most powerful man in DC should be do the right thing. While Barr wants to protect the institutions at some point he’s going to know they’re going down and he try to choose that glide path for it. Barr will be able to remake DC – with all the danger that implies being at the hand of a DeepState initiate. What DC master of the universe wouldn’t want to do that?

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  8. Burnt Toast says:

    The whole nest of them are accessories before, during, and/or after the fact.

    Coming in all innocent and well meaning in the 11th hour, having the capacity to blow the whistle, but instead helping them bury the body makes one an accessory after the fact.

    “Prosecutorial Discretion” may satisfy the legal beagles, but it will just PO the mob.

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  9. Indy0707 says:

    So the only thing that can’t be done is the right thing?

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  10. golfmann says:

    A man dies when he refuses to stand up for that which is right.
    A man dies when he refuses to stand up for justice.
    A man dies when he refuses to take a stand for that which is true.

    ~ Martin Luther King, Jr

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  11. Rongordo says:

    The Justice Department and FBI are replaceable. American justice and American democracy are not. If the Justice Department is rigging elections and not brought to justice, it’ll only intensify its efforts. Trump would be the last opposition to a totalitarian one party rule.

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    • dilonsfo says:

      It is not just the DOJ/FBI. From just what has been available to the public, if one had read the research and evidence produced, it involves Senators, Congressmen, DNC, RINOs, members of the Intelligence groups, judges, and the military. This coup was huge. Each person involved was only involved because he/she knew the large scope of involvement and the belief that it would be successful. What they didn’t count on was the strength of President Trump and the support of those who are part of the Trump army that allowed him to survive. This is not like the a few persons conceived this and tried to carry it out. The removal of those involved would take years and in the mean time our government would be torn apart. Imagine if President Trump had to declare martial law to maintain order. In this time in history it would be almost impossible. Military can’t be called in because of the 1878 Posse Comitatus Act. The Supreme Court ruled that Lincoln’s declaration of martial law was unconstitutional in any area where courts were still functioning. The possible mess is almost beyond imagination. You can’t just punish a few and let the rest go.

      So, apparently, the logic is to let them all go, accept resignations were possible, and forgo the possible destruction of the county. There is an election coming up and the people will decide who is to stay and who is to go. The people have the power to remove the elected scum. Let us hope that our side turns out in great numbers and removes the traitors inside the Congress so that President Trump can triumph over his last 4 years. If President Trump has the numbers there is no stopping what he can accomplish.

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  12. JohnCasper says:

    Barr is as blind as he can be
    Sees only what he wants to see
    Nowhere Man Barr, can you see The Lady Of Justice at all?

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  13. samwise163 says:

    I keep saying it. Declassify, release everything during a press conference. Light the match…walk away. Burn it down. Nuclear option. We truly live in scary times. These seditious bastards are truly evil. Sidney Powell needs God’s wisdom and all Treepers’ prayers over her. Go to hell Rod!

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    • Tl Howard says:

      If POTUS ordered it, there is no assurance it would happen. This is a coup. Bureaucrats are bucking him.

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      • zekness says:

        that is unfortunately correct.

        the reality is …and it makes me sad to make this point clear…the president of the united states is not sitting on the mountain of classified material.

        there is a wall between him and that material.

        the really USEFUL classified material..the type that would be very beneficial is likely unknown to him and made such that it is not available to him.

        in the sense the president is a SUPER USER..the dark forces of secret bureaucracy are ultimately a combination of compartmentalization and also distinct god mode admins.

        then there is also the very very REAL issue of national security. One does not really want the president or anyone else to break down some very sensitive classified materials in other to expose some narrow bits of information contained in the larger set.

        the redaction process would be lengthy to achieve..and the president would be making that demand to the very people who have the most to conceal in redaction.

        I know this is not going to be some big surprise, but it’s worth repeating…

        within classified material, there is the highest probability of some non-sanctioned unlawful criminal conduct…..the president is never going to be able to get this material..not this president..not any president.

        this material is guarded by the very people who maintain it for leverage purposes….or its destroyed/edited/corrected/replaced as needed over time.

        we would like to believe that ALL covert secret operations are known and authorized by POTUS…but that is certainly not true.

        proving it, would require someone like snowden 2.0…

        is there hope….depends on what effects you think will result. with snowden…can anyone here make a single factual claim that anything really changed?

        there IS a deep state…

        it’s called the CIA folks. and it’s some of the most powerful, wealthiest most influential people and genius level organization on planet earth. This is unlikely to ever change.

        and we ain’t in that membership..

        that membership installs itself.

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        • icthematrix says:

          Schumer scumbag said “6 ways from Sunday”…and he wasn’t kidding.

          President Trump is trying to gain more power via his re-election and return of the House to R control (need to hold the Senate). He knows the evil McTurtle’s rules, but with no monthly assaults via committees to impeach, he can replace some key positions, start purging the Obama-installed bureaucrats from the DS, and try to repair the damage from that commie. I believe PDJT values that more than “burning it down” (as much as I’d like to see it all exposed, consequences be dammed).

          President Trump will insist on some scalps, some damage to the plotters, and restrictions on the ability of people to construct this crap on him or future presidents. But that’s about as good as it can get. We aren’t going to see a massive perp walk of all the bad guys, and certainly won’t find Hillary or Obummer behind bars like they deserve.

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  14. kleen says:

    POTUS needs to give Barr order to Declassify all spygate docs for public release.
    Do it NOW, privately do not announce it to Dems.
    Then in a couple of months release the Kraken!

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  15. pristach says:

    Sundance is brilliant. But he did not write this by himself.

    We live in interesting times.

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  16. Excellent post SD and equally good commentary by the Tree Huggers and Branch Hangers.
    I do NOT agree with SD’s statement that “From the perspective of those charged with actual U.S. Justice – there’s no way to put this in front of the American public and have the institutions themselves survive.”

    The institutions will survive. The corrupt players will not, they are a cancer to our society.
    If the cancer is not removed, it will metastasize and the country as we know it is cooked.

    If PDJT has figured out what SD has, I’m confident he will “order” AG Barr to take action or resign.

    MAGA

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  17. CM-TX says:

    They NEED to be made to fear We The People!

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  18. hawkins6 says:

    If sundance’s article is entirely factual and if the truth as outlined here is discovered after Barr exits, he will be an accomplice in the sedition for deliberately covering it up and for defending some of the participants. He will also be remembered as one of America’s worst cowards for not revealing the truth to the people. If true, he’s also abandoning POTUS to the plotters who will continue to create the next plot or hoax against him with impunity.

    Barr’s comment that he is “happy” that Stone was convicted despite the politically stacked decks (Judge, jury, prosecution) against Roger changed my opinion of the A/G. The bogus charge of tampering with a witness, who swore he didn’t feel threatened, was an example of sundance’s comment about the DOJ “adding charges” so the pending McCabe exoneration would not be a fair comparison with the Stone conviction as well.

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    • Linda K. says:

      There is something in the heart s of men that demands justice and recognizes it. The DOJ will not survive if it does not represent and fight for the truth to come out. Sorry.

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    • Jim in TN says:

      The charges were added just to screw over Stone. He did not cooperate, so they took out their petty vile revenge on him.

      Liked by 2 people

      • MelH says:

        What the President needs to do right this minute is PARDON every person indicted by anti-Trumpers. Everything the Dems have done is sedition. Crucify them now, but first PARDON those whose lives have been wrecked by the cowards in charge!

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    • zekness says:

      if you follow the history of barr, he has already demonstrated the capability, unchecked to date, to deliver to the state a get out of jail card several times before.

      this current situation is at least as dire as those before.

      we should have no cause to believe he will not repeat the performance.

      now….let’s commit to that truth and understand the basic reality here:

      we are looking at the wrong people to perform what is required.

      this is that moment in time, when history will be made.

      the future of this nation will come down to what the people will do.

      this is war folks…this is good versus evil.

      this is the cross roads…this is that moment where we respond to a real clear and present danger to our republic…OUR REPUBLIC.

      or sink away and assume the role of being simple creatures of the state.

      it really boils down to this.

      we are looking at the wrong people to fix a problem.

      the answer is

      US…WE THE PEOPLE.

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  19. Carly says:

    “Covering up” activity that is plainly naked to the rest of us. If Barr played it straight, no one would dismantle these agencies, which is a statement about the citizens’ impotence. Barr may give pretty speeches, but he doesn’t believe a damn thing he says about this country if he intends to protect the agencies that are destroying us. If they are extra-Constitutional, they are not worth preserving. Barr is a conflicted man – and not suitable for office.

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  20. Sammy Hains says:

    Bill Barr does have a choice.
    The question is if he is brave enough to make it.

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  21. kleen says:

    I suspect the source Hannity and others have, is misleading them. Maybe not on purpose but the deep state is showing this source wrong information.

    That’s why they keep saying it will happen in a week and then it gets postponed and then nothing…

    Somebody is running the clock while feeding us false hope that justice will come at anytime now. Just keep waiting. Here we are, Feb 2020. NOTHING! Just crooks walking free and bragging about it.

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    • yep. Hannity is being used. He said the same thing when DOJ refused to indict Comey. His “sources” were telling him that this was due to ‘bigger things coming down the pike’. He’s just a gullible RINO.

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  22. Graham Pink says:

    Or both Flynn and his lawyer meet suspicious ends.

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  23. appraisher says:

    Barr is protecting Rosenstein, Rosenstein is protecting Weissman, Weissman is protecting Comey Brennan and Clapper. Comey is protecting Baker, Strzok, Page, Clinesmith, Pientka …AND, they’re all protecting Obama.

    Perhaps, at one point in his life, Barr really was the fabled arbiter of justice, but no longer. IF he still was, there would be no indecision nor weighting of options, his path would be simple…Blind Justice. The fact that he’s even weighing options, tells us that coverup to maintain Status Quo is his job now. Defending a coup and the coup plotters, his main directive

    Sad. Barr could have gone down in history as the one man who valued the law above anything. That he put his legacy on the line to bring seditious criminals, many of them friends, to Justice. But alas, he will be remembered as just another Deep State Fixer…or perhaps he’ll be elevated to Chief Justice status for his terpitude, now that the Deep State is making all the rules.

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    • Carly says:

      Yet there is a Final Justice Barr and all others, us include, will meet. If Barr is not a godless man, he will reflect on the eternal.

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      • appraisher says:

        Yes, we all will be judged by the Almighty, Carly. But if Barr believes in a Higher Power, the decision to allow the destruction of America by covering up evil, would surely weigh heavy on my mind…and eternal soul.

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    • Burnt Toast says:

      The real ‘insurance policy’ –

      All roads lead to Obama.
      Make sure you leave bread crumbs… or just leave a last minute e-mail that pretty says he was behind all of it.

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      • appraisher says:

        @ Burnt Toast. There are surely enough “bread crumbs” to follow, right now. Sundance himself has irrefutably made that case with more fact-proof than normally needed to convict anyone. Unfortunately, no one is man (or woman) enough to take those facts and lay them at Obama’s feet.

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  24. jstert says:

    while i “get” sundance’s train of thought, i most certainly don’t get his final answer. at this point nuking the swamp is the only solution.

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  25. teeheeman says:

    Isn’t there the possibility that Judge Sullivan can dismiss this bogus charge against Flynn given the strength of Sydney Powell’s arguments. Then Barr is off the hook. I’m not saying this is going to happen but it has to be a possibility, no?

    Have to say this was a downer of a post by SD – seems somewhat defeatist. What, the country can’t survive an uprising from the swamp but it can survive an uprising from us five-and-dimers out here in fly-over country? Geeesh…

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    • Linda K. says:

      Sydney has been asking for documents and DOJ does not want to give them to her. So, this outside prosecutor is a way around that. He better let Flynn go.

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      • Robert Smith says:

        There’s a problem with that because they want Flynn to STFU too.He wasn’t a quiet man before the DeepState came for him. I don’t think Flynn will be very quite once it’s over either.

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        • BitterC says:

          Well, a new prosecutor reviewing his case will keep Flynn quiet much longer now, won’t it?

          Also keeps the DOJ from having to produce all the Brady & other materials Sydney has been requesting

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  26. Liberty Forge says:

    President Trump has stated many times that “this can never happen again”.

    IF the perpetrators — ALL of them — are not brought to justice, this WILL happen again.

    IF there are no consequences for their seditious behavior, they’ll be even more emboldened and try more outrageous behavior/acts.

    The media ‘has their backs’, and if they truly are ‘above the law’, we’re not a constitutional republic any longer.

    I trust President Trump completely, yet he is only one man — who cannot do it all by himself.

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  27. Carly says:

    The thread throughout this theme: What are we to do about our Barr problem?
    Well? What does the Constitution say we can do?

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    • Carly says:

      Should we call for Barr’s impeachment as well – for protecting the agencies and not our Constitution? Why are we waiting – with crossed fingers – to do the right thing, in the face of all these signals that he will not do the right thing? We should also call for his impeachment. We need to send a message to all other AGs: Never again!

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  28. Bogeyfree says:

    Question: What has been the secret power of the DS???

    Answer: Gaining LEVERAGE over an individual(s) and using this leverage to ensure that person does what they want, again and again and again, until you are used up.

    The second a person goes along or turns a blind eye or knowingly ignores or supports their scheme, they own you FOREVER!!

    Even if for years, you profess you have the highest level of integrity, they still own you and your family!

    And once you become leveraged into the Fraternity, their golden rule for life becomes Protect Your Brothers, above everything else!

    The greatest thing about President Trump, he would never sell out himself, his family or his country!

    Thank you President Trump!

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  29. litlbit2 says:

    This is so this really, really xxxxxxxoff. Please do not tell we are going to be put through Bagpipes testimony March 31 or listen to MSM spin the big bad Durham folly? This is going on Four years and if their is still something that needs investigated? The da####n Justice Department does not have a honest person on staff or one that is not a liar. Burn it down. Burn it down?

    Barr can go straight to Gitmo along with everyone that has had their name connected to this rape of the American electorate including Justice Roberts, McConnell, Graham, McCarthy……ASAP

    There are men, real men waiting in the wings that can build this Department back in a flash! Do not sound like Obama when he told POTUS, “how you going to do that, you got a magic wand”

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  30. john another says:

    Great article as usual Sundance, but….
    “the institutions of government are not strong enough, nor are they set-up to handle, prosecutions that overlap the three branches of government.”
    Let me fix that for ya.
    The CORRUPT ELEMENTS BENT ON SEDITION WITHIN THE institutions of government are not ABOUT TO INITIATE prosecutions that overlap the three branches of government THAT EXPOSE THEIR SEDITION.
    The claim that the institutions aren’t strong enough is pure hog wash. The majority of people would be VERY happy with the rule of law being applied equally across the board.
    Granted, the vast majority of bureaucrats in government vote and donate to one party and the politicians (Democrat and Republican alike) that approved this seditious element are part of this corruption, our Constitution and our laws are supposed to be blind to all of that.
    To do anything but prosecute criminals for their crimes is to institutionalize a criminal government.

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  31. Blind no Longer says:

    Thank you Sundance for spelling it out for me! I’m glad I don’t have to wake up everyday thinking hoping praying that this will be the day these traitorous corrupt bastards working in our government will finally see justice. They never will. Either they all have tons of blackmail material on each other, or in the case of Barr, the institutions are all that really matter.

    Forget that those institutions promise justice, fairness and equal protection for all…it only counts if you are part of the corruption club. So as far as I’m concerned, those institutions are worthless, they mean nothing, because it’s all a lie, a mirage.

    I have to say, it sucks knowing the truth….our government is just another banana republic 3rd world shithole. I wish I could tell Barr and the rest of the assholes protecting these “great shining” institutions, they are forever tainted and corrupt in my eyes. I wouldn’t believe anything any of them said sitting on a stack of Bibles now.

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  32. Robert says:

    McCabe got to walk on small charges, he will not walk on larger charges.

    Liked by 4 people

    • Jimmy R says:

      They didn’t have the guts to charge him for small stuff. Therefore they certainly won’t have the guts to charge him for sedition.

      Liked by 4 people

    • kleen says:

      I think we are out of time.

      Even if we see useless indictments this Spring, it’s too late. Indictment, itself means NOTHING.

      A trial and conviction/jail wouldn’t happen until next year. By then Dems will have stolen the election. Bloomberg is buying it. He is openly saying he will spend Billions.

      Let that sink in. They will stop at nothing! They will give illegals voting cards if they have to. All 30 million of them.

      After November, no one will go to jail and this will go away FOREVER. Fast and Furious way.

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    • Boots says:

      “….he will not walk on larger charges”
      —-
      Correct. Because there won’t BE any larger charges.

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  33. Carly says:

    We need to accomplish these things to begin to right this ship:
    Aggressively support term limits
    Remove agencies from inside the Beltway
    Impeach crooked judges, from the towns to the states to the country
    Do our own research and reporting
    Teach our children history and civics
    And reelect DJT

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  34. cthusername says:

    So we’ve established that our government is corrupt. We also know many politicians who have enriched themselves and their families. Our system is pretty well broken. It will not be repaired with duct tape and sweeping misdeeds under the rug. Major reform is needed. Barr doesn’t have what is needed to expose and deal with this, only Trump does. It all needs to see the light of day.

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  35. T2020 says:

    What a clusterfk.

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  36. Buzz Wenzel says:

    The solution to AG Barr’s dilemma can be summed up in one word…..”wetworks”.
    We the People are awake like never before. Information now flows freely around whatever dam may have existed in the past. The old “sweep it under the rug” strategy will not work in this case. The civil compact hangs by a thread. Public trust in the institution depends on how these issues get resolved. The notion that the “institution” cannot withstand the light of truth and justice is repugnant in a free Republic. We either restore those virtues to the institution, or it is destroyed already.

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    • MelH says:

      There are two other Blogs on WordPress in which the owners have heralded Sundance’s article on this topic and encouraged their readers to follow the links to the article. If you use the WordPress Reader, you will see their artoic;es below the first two clutches of Sundance tonight. Which is only to say, we aren’t the only ones who have just been gifted with the information Sundance gave us. We know truth and so do they….the pebble dropped in water! We COULD join the Dem’s push to impeach Bill Barr. You would rather sit around and hope Barr changes his stripes and does the right thing? A few of us are still eating crow over treating Sessions that way. I’m not eating crow again. i say #ImpeachBarr NOW!

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  37. Baby Hurley says:

    Put someone in there that’s not afraid to burn the place down, burn it to the ground and start over. It’s not beyond the realm of possibilities under PDJT’s leadership and with our support. Lets do this!

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  38. Sedition is Sedition… Lawfare went out of their way to destroy the Institution of the President, so why are Barr and the DOJ so intent on protecting other arms of the Federal government? They let the impeachment hoax go through, why not a full examination of the DOJ/FBI scandal? I say screw them, the President needs to find the most aggressive Attorney he can trust and give him Special Prosecutor powers. Bury these people, make the same star chamber as the Mueller group only with Conservatives. That’s the privilege of those in power. We have a chance to destroy these traitors and Barr is standing in the way. Take it out of his hands. To restore faith in the system, these people need to be exposed and destroyed…

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  39. Publius2016 says:

    We would all be surprised if Ryan and McConnell didn’t know about Trump Campaign Surveillance, right?

    The truth is Ryan and McConnell were most likely informed about the whole operation to take down 45 too!

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  40. mopar2016 says:

    But I’ve heard countless dems say that “no one is above the law”.

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  41. Pew-Anon says:

    “There would have been massive constitutional crises created and the literal definition of ‘sedition‘ was at the center of it.”

    What exactly does this imply? This seems to say all three federal branches would be implicated and there would be no institution left to prosecute the crimes. Am I reading that right?

    Liked by 1 person

    • Publius2016 says:

      true…Legislative (Sad Clown Pelosi, Head Clown Chuck) Judiciary (CJ Roberts and FISA Court), Executive with intelligence services in the pocket of Deep State Globalists…

      military is compromised too…NSC…

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    • Carly says:

      The Constitution was a cookbook.
      When you have a bad batch, you don’t throw out the cookbook.
      You get new ingredients.
      Then return to the cookbook and faithfully follow the recipe.
      Nothing extra-Constitutional (actions or agencies) are not worth preserving.
      Agencies are not Too Big to Fail.
      Anything spoken otherwise is pure nonsense.

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    • Boots says:

      “….no institution left to prosecute the crimes…”
      —–
      Where’s it stated an institution must prosecute the criminals? Did the Founders have an institution(s) to prosecute their case? Or did they prosecute their own case? Does the Constitution say or not say the citizens can impanel their own grand juries? Lastly and most importantly, will the citizens sit on their hands and let the guilty go free, because the “institutions” that should prosecute crimes are run and staffed by the very ones who are guilty and should be prosecuted?

      If the “institutions” won’t or can’t prosecute, then it’s the duty, the responsibility, and the right of the people to prosecute and sentence for the crimes. What else are you going to do? Stand by, sit down, and lay down and let the guilty walk not only free, but walk all over you, your family, your future, and the future of your country? Or are you going to join together, pledge your life, fortune, and honor to something far bigger, better, and more important to the posterity of your name, your family, and your country?

      “I care not what others may ask, but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!” Patrick Henry was 27 years old when he uttered those famous words. How many 27 year olds are ready, willing, or able to take the same stand today?

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    • Boots says:

      “….there would be no institution left to prosecute the crimes…”
      —–
      Did the Founders need an institution to prosecute their case for independence? Did they need permission from any court, any government, any officer of the crown, any lawyer, or anybody else to prosecute their fight for independence?

      Does the Constitution empower or not empower citizens to convene grand juries? Should we as a people, as citizens, lay down in supplication at the feet of those who even now are trying to overthrow a duly elected President, in violation of the very federal statutes they swore to uphold?

      18 U.S. Code CHAPTER 115—TREASON, SEDITION, AND SUBVERSIVE ACTIVITIES
      https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/part-I/chapter-115

      Let the institutions and those infesting and infecting them be damned. We need no institution to charge, prosecute, sentence, or carry out said sentence upon the perpetrators and violators of 18 USC 115. We need only the good organization, with pure motives and sound minds, led by upstanding men of same motives and minds, to convene, arrest, try, sentence, and carry out said sentence.

      I tell you sure as the sun will rise shortly. If this cancer is not eradicated completely, down to the last mutated cell, it will in a short few years bring about the final and lasting death of the greatest, most successful experiment in self governance the world has ever known. After that death, there will never, ever be another free republic on earth; and we then must wait until the Kingdom of above is established on earth and in Heaven.

      Until then we have a choice. We either wise up, rise up, man up, and stand up and take responsibility and charge of our very futures and lives; or we sit behind our keyboards and type brave sounding proclamations of what we must do to save our lives and futures, and while doing so allow our masters to forge another link in the chains of our slavery.

      “For what are men waiting? The war has already begun! The next gale will bring a resounding clash of arms! Why wait we here while our brethren are already in the field!? I know not what other men may wish, but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!”

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  42. so pdjt says to declassify.then all the alphabet agencies will have to review the material he wants declassified.so in the end none of the pertinent information will see the light of day,if it does it will be so heavily redacted to be worthless.so we have gained nothing but inform the DS that we are on their trail.the only way would be to send u.s. marshalls into all agencies at the same time to procure all documents.

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  43. joeknuckles says:

    Excellent analysis and great “fire truck” analogy. However, I am of the opinion that our institutions, and probably our country, cannot survive NOT exposing and prosecuting the sedition. At this point, most people who care enough to follow this stuff already know the truth. That being the case, not doing anything about it only encourages more.

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  44. starfcker says:

    President Trump has never been a burn It to the ground type of guy. He knows the system we’ve lived under is the best one ever created in the history of the world. It seems his motive has always been to restore it to a functioning capacity. So what Bill Barr is concerned about is nonsense. The institutions are more rugged than you might think. What’s deestroying them is the scum currently inhabiting them. President Trump is not going to be muzzled. And if Bill Barr does not get off his dead ass he will go the way of Sessions fairly quickly. Cowardice is not a desirable trait in a leader. I’ve been saying for years, the AG under Trump is the toughest position to fill in the world. To do the job that needs to be done is not the same as making friends. Again, I believe Barr is on the clock. Sundance said the other day, Miss Lindsey writes letters, AG Barr throws out some good language in his speeches. Same result, nada. He already pushed the Dunham probe into the summer. He’s running out the clock. What he doesn’t realize is he’s running out the clock on himself. Maybe he does realize that. Maybe he sees this as a relay race, and he just hands the baton to the next guy that wastes two years. It’s frustrating really.

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    • Kurt Fuhr says:

      in life, there are reasons and results….and only results count. The standard is the standard..if the institutions are terminal with metastatic cancer they too must die as natural laws in the circle of life. Hope is renewed in the rebirth of their dust. I have nothing but respect for Sundance. To accept this analysis and assessment is simply pitiful.

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    • calbear84 says:

      Agree. PT has patience and he never loses sight of his goals. AND he always fights for us!

      Liked by 1 person

    • Robert Smith says:

      I know people are saying after the election. If Barr is going to get canned it’ll be before the election. That gives his acting free ground to run until the election which should clearly say Trump gets his team of choice.

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  45. Bird Watcher says:

    Barr needs to give us, the American people, more credit. This is not too big to expose. It is too big NOT to expose. Who cares if the FBI and CIA are vacuumed out and repopulated. Most of the country has no interaction with either agency. Just as government shutdowns aren’t the big crisis to our country (other than the overpopulated government) that DC has the vapors over, cleaning house will not affect us in any major way. IMHO

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  46. Carly says:

    We need to stand by Trump when he says: Never again. We need to call for Barr’s impeachment for choosing to protect the agencies over the Constitution. If we don’t do this, Barr will say he protected the agencies to preserve the country (then he’s lost the plot). We need to make it clear that our country can survive the dismantling and overhaul of these agencies, not Wray-style, not Barr-style, but American-style. They are not Too Big to Fail. We need to face this.

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  47. Republicanvet91 says:

    I would accept an excuse for needing to protect institutions if the coup attempts had stopped. They are ongoing, and continuing to further damage those same institutions.

    At some point, Barr needs to fish or cut bait.

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    • Robert Smith says:

      It is an existential question.

      The Coup has to be put down. Nowhere in life does bad behavior stop without corrective behavior. I think most people learned that in grade school. Thanks to Democrats and Media giving cover to the DeepState operatives, the Coup has to be put down HARD now because it’s been allowed to go on so long.

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  48. saywhat64 says:

    It goes even deeper than Rosenstein and Senators of both parties. It goes back to Hillary Clinton who has been accumulating dirt on anyone she could since her husband was president. Subsequently it encompasses obama who the Clintons also have the goods on. If Barr is going to really bring down the hammer on SpyGate, Hillary Clinton and 2 past presidents will be dragged in. The system can and should be blown up because real justice does matter especially as enough of us out here get what went down. Does Barr have the cajones ? Trump does…

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  49. Bogeyfree says:

    Make Sidney Powell America’s Justice Czar where she shadows Barr and Durham and has full authority to declass & unredact all documents related to Russia Gate, Spygate, Crossfire Hurricane and Impeachment Gate.

    After some digging into the DOJ and key communications allow her to be We the People’s mouthpiece and expose and explain to the American people much what Sundance is talking about, just like she has explain the fraud and frame job on General Flynn.

    By the way has someone tagged this thread to Sidney, Don Jr, PT, Lou Dobbs and Rush?

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  50. dave casper says:

    To make a long article short, whatever Bill does, we’re toast.

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