Is The Washington Post, New York Times and CNN Now Declaring Professor Mifsud is *NOT* A Russian Asset?…

The CIA primarily leaks PR spin to the Washington Post.  The FBI primarily leaks PR spin to the New York Times; and the State Dept. primarily leaks PR spin to CNN.  This narrative distribution model is the one constant in an ever changing universe.

Cue the audio visual…  Obviously the prior Washington Post effort to conflate the Durham investigation with the Horowitz investigation didn’t get the desired result.  As a consequence it only took a few days before the Washington Post was back at it (Matt Zapotosky and Devlin Barrett again) to try obfuscation 2.0; this time with Joseph Mifsud.

For three years the New York Times, Washington Post and CNN have sold the FBI claim that Professor Joseph Mifsud was a Russian operative passing information about Clinton’s emails to George Papadopoulos.

That essential point underpins their defense of the predicate for the CIA and FBI to open the July 31st investigation of the Trump campaign.   Again, for three years Joseph Mifsud was sold as a Russian operative; working on behalf of Russian interests.

That “Mifsud is a Russian asset” claim is the fulcrum of Crossfire Hurricane.   Mifsud has to be a Russian asset, or else…  George Papadopoulos talking to Australian Diplomat Alexander Downer about Mifsud is simply political gossip without merit, value or bearing.

The key point is Mifsud has to be a Russian operative in order for all of the downstream FBI activity to be justified.   If Mifsud ain’t Russian, the CIA and FBI have a problem.

It doesn’t matter if Mifsud is Maltese, Taiwanese, Sicilian, Italian, British, Canadian, Chinese, or a half-breed Congolese migrant from Morocco… for the CIA and FBI justification to stick Professor Joseph Mifsud has to be a Russian operative.

Yet for some reason the PR outlet for the CIA and FBI are spending an inordinate amount of time trying to say Mifsud isn’t an American intelligence asset.   A ridiculous amount of energy spent on a claim that no-one has ever made.  The question remains: Is Joseph Mifsud a Russian Operative?

If no, the CIA and FBI have a world of sh!t on their hands.  Period.

Perhaps that’s the reason why the Washington Post are again trying to create and conflate an issue that doesn’t exist.  Example:

[…]  Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz’s office contacted U.S. Attorney John Durham, the prosecutor Barr personally tapped to lead a separate review of the 2016 probe into possible coordination between the Trump campaign and Russia, the people said. The inspector general also contacted several U.S. intelligence agencies.

Among Horowitz’s questions: whether a Maltese professor who interacted with a Trump campaign adviser was actually a U.S. intelligence asset deployed to ensnare the campaign, the people said, speaking on the condition of anonymity because the inspector general’s findings have not been made public.

But the intelligence agencies said the professor was not among their assets, the people said. And Durham informed Horowitz’s office that his investigation had not produced any evidence that might contradict the inspector general’s findings on that point. (more)

No sh!t.. !!    Mifsud isn’t “a U.S. intelligence asset”…  and caterpillars never ever wear brown boots….  What’s the point?

No-one has ever said Mifsud was a U.S. intelligence asset.  However, for three years the Washington Post, New York Times and CNN have claimed Mifsud was a Russian intelligence asset.

Are these outlets now denying that point?

Or is this media group trying to distract people from remembering their claim of Mifsud being a Russian asset, by shifting the story to disprove something no-one ever claimed… so they don’t have to admit they told a false story for three years?

The problem the Washington Post, New York Times and CNN has is that we do not forget their claims.   If Mifsud is not a Russian asset then the primary evidence sold by the FBI and their complicit media -to justify the FBI origination- was all a bunch of horse-pucky.

…”Western Intelligence”

ABOVE (L-R) Joseph Mifsud, Boris Johnson and Prasenjit Kumar

If, as FBI Director James Comey and the FBI investigators have claimed, Joseph Mifsud was a Russian asset… then every intelligence agency in the Western Intelligence Alliance has been compromised…. including our own State Department who invited Mifsud to lecture in Washington DC in January 2017; right before he “disappeared.”

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327 Responses to Is The Washington Post, New York Times and CNN Now Declaring Professor Mifsud is *NOT* A Russian Asset?…

  1. evergreen says:

    Just go get Zapotosky’s and Barrett’s phone records and find the insiders who they were in contact with. That will tell the story of who wants what sold a certain way. And if that’s inconclusive, get the insiders’ phone records, etc.

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    • Sentient says:

      You need a warrant for that – unless you’re a democrat. Their version of the Constitution and its Fourth Amendment has the word “warrant” crossed out and replaced with “subpoena” (also known as a request).

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      • Super Elite Lt. Col. Covfefe999 says:

        Well, then we’d better give the House majority back to the GOP in November 2020. Then they can do what Schiff is doing. And Trump can finally get some legislation passed.

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  2. Zippy says:

    “If Mifsud ain’t Russian, the CIA and FBI have a problem.”

    And that could have been investigated via POTUS order (IF he been advised to do so, which he apparently wasn’t) a LONG time ago without in any way “interfering” with the Mueller farce.

    Even if it wasn’t done for some reason during the Mueller farce, it should have been done the INSTANT the Mueller farce was concluded instead of only last month.

    Why wasn’t it?

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    • David A says:

      Why indeed?
      Also, considering this-
      “If Mifsud is not a Russian asset then the primary evidence sold by the FBI and their complicit media -to justify the FBI
      origination- was all a bunch of horse-pucky.”

      Even if he was ( apparently he was not) a Russian operative,
      does that justify any and all spying on a US citizen when their is ZERO evidence that citizen had a clue he was talking to a Russian spook?

      If it does justify such an operation then this ”
      including our own State Department who invited Mifsud to lecture in Washington DC in January 2017;” means they can spy on everyone in DC.

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      • Zippy says:

        And as pointed out by Dan Bongino and perhaps by SD, there is no evidence of any DAMAGE ASSESSMENT being done due to “Russian agent” Mifsud’s very close proximity to western intel, something which MUST officially be done if anyone seriously believed Mifsud was a Russian asset. They damned well knew that he wasn’t, so it wasn’t done.

        The incurious about Mifsud delay is a key indicator to me that all “investigations” are slow-walked CYA garbage along with the fact that NO ONE has even been so much as INDICTED including McCabe even now more than two months after the results of the nearly year long slow-walked investigation of him that should have taken only a few months according to Judicial Watch.

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    • WRB says:

      Jeff Sessions and Rod Rosenstein is why. I think it is obvious that AG Barr shutdown Mueller, and almost immediately gave Durham his job to get to the bottom of 2016.

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      • Zippy says:

        Oh, really? So NO ONE within the Trump administration was willing to read the BOOKS or THIS SITE or others on the subject who could have bypassed those people and advised the POTUS?

        Sorry. Doesn’t wash. Plus, not much urgency shown here:

        March 22, 2019 – Mueller investigation officially ends.

        May 14, 2019 – Barr appoints Durham.

        A nearly 60 day delay.

        Then a seven month delay before (supposedly) interviewing Mifsud!

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        • Zippy says:

          A seven month delay before supposedly listening to a taped deposition. According to Mifsud’s lawyer’s claim to John Solomon, Mifsud was willing to testify that he was working for WESTERN intel. Was it actually only THAT publicly made claim by Solomon which then FORCED Barr/Durham to pay very BELATED attention to Mifsud?

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          • The bagpipes is (are) a notoriously difficult instrument. Give the man some time (this is sarc, I hope you know; the man is a gelatinous mass of smug bonhomie)

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            • WhiteBoard says:

              national security letters are slid in front of your face.. you are directed to follow the instructed lines and are reminded of the abilty to collect you and shape your media story anyway they want legally.

              the fact that you arent hearing anything. isnt because they arent doing anything. its because this is a thourough eval, including undercover boss. call BS all you want. if our country cant investigate political appointee criminal traitors and arrange their collection at the right time, then we have no country.

              We are the finest breed of fighters this world has to offer. finest strategist and insurgency lineage this world has ever seen. out of respect the voted into President was allowed to do his voter’s bidding, including the corruption and damage we are dealing with now, but it was watched and contingencies made simultanously to clean it up if the voters chose another.

              elections matter, and that includes allowing Obama to do the damage he did, because the voters have the FINAL SAY in this country and not the SPOOKS. the voters voted for Trump, so the SPOOKS will execute their jobs in secrecy and all you can do is judge how things look at the right time. jan 2021.

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        • lftpm says:

          It has been reported that Durham was actually tasked earlier, IIRC, by either AG Sessions or Acting AG Whitacre. I wouldn’t get too hung up on the popular timeline.

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          • Exactly, James Baker’s testimony to congress revealed Durham was investigating James Baker at the time of his testimony. That time frame puts it in the Session wheelhouse.

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          • Sherri Young says:

            Durham was running criminal leak investigations that could have started from when he was appointed as acting US Attorney in late October or early November 2017. The Spygate predicate investigation was added on later. Barr testified before a Senate committee on 04/10/2019 that there had been spying. He intended to find out if it was lawfully predicated.

            Barr also stated, either in an interview or during Q&A in congressional testimony, that he was surprised that when he started work at the DOJ there seemed to be few who were willing to tell him what was going on. Usually in a new job, people welcome you and try to help with your orientation. Apparently, he was left to find his own way for the most part. I don’t know if he and Matt Whitaker had much overlap, if any. Rosenstein tried to retire ASAP after hitting the date for maximum retirement benefits. Barr got him to stay on as DAG for a few weeks. The Mueller report was issued, and Rosie exited.

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      • cali says:

        @WRB: Just to correct the record:

        Durham was appointed by Jeff Sessions in October 2017 to investigate the ‘predicate’ of the charges against president Trump and accusation of Russian collusion.

        Durham has been investigating since October 2017 although the public did not learn about it until recently.

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        • Zippy says:

          Then why was it only in September of 2019 that he and Barr supposedly finally got around to listening to a tape made by Mifsud in the summer of 2018?

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        • Zippy says:

          “Durham was appointed by Jeff Sessions in October 2017 to investigate the ‘predicate’ of the charges against president Trump and accusation of Russian collusion.”

          This is what I find:

          “Mr. Durham has served as the interim U.S. Attorney since October 28, 2017, after U.S. Attorney General Jeff Sessions signed an order appointing him to the position.”

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        • Linda K. says:

          Huber was appointed by Sessions, not Durham.

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          • Linda K. says:

            Huber was appointed by U.S. Attorney General Jeff Sessions to investigate the FBI’s surveillance of Carter Page and connections between the Clinton Foundation and Uranium One, starting in November 2017

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            • Sherri Young says:

              Durham’s work started out as the criminal leaks investigation. It was sometime during Sessions’s tenure, although not clear when. It was on August 4, 2017 that AG Sessions and DNI Coats held a press briefing to announce their plan to address leaks. What they said was that Wray would oversee the investigations and Rosenstein would oversee the prosecutions.

              Actually, Durham was already a long-term attorney at the US Attorney’s office for the district of CT. He had been there about 35 years and was something like chief of staff or special counsel to the US Attorney. He had been pulled out to run special project cases in public corruption over the years. Rumor on the internet is that Matt Whitaker, as Sessions’s chief of staff, saw little progress on the leak work so assigned the project to Durham.

              James A. Baker (FBI) testified in early Oct 2018 that Durham had been investigating leaks for several months. So, the timing of Durham’s initial involvement is a bit vague.

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      • Issy says:

        He also gave Rosenstein a grand sendoff from the doj. I really would like to see some explanations of his actions in this grand mess. IMHO, he has much to answer for while running the department.

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    • it wasn’t done because Sessions was AG and Rosenstein was DAG

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      • Zippy says:

        So NO ONE within the Trump administration was willing to read the BOOKS or THIS SITE or others on the subject who could have bypassed those people and advised the POTUS?

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    • Raptors2020 says:

      I see a common theme of naivete, but good intentions. They didn’t know the Steele Dossier was phony, they didn’t know Mifsud was phony. They trusted, but for the right reasons. Notice Glenn Simpson used the defence that Veselnitskaya (!) tricked him.

      Good intentions is a huge justifier all across left-wing thought: if your intentions are good and grand enough, it excuses a lot.

      Ocasio-Cortez shrugged off having bad scientific facts over climate change, because her motives were good. Journalism”s first line of defence to libel is good intentions: the absence of malice.

      This babe in the woods defence for the Intelligence Community is intended for left-wing eyes.

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      • WhiteBoard says:

        would of worked if they wouldnt of acted on the other steps of the plan… during the next presidency.
        thats why Trump is smiling, he collected evidentiary intent. plan executed through Mueller appointment, McMaster hiring in ____, Sessions recusal set up, … all this had to be LET done. like a bingo card after you intercepted the plan via rogers.

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  3. Sofa King says:

    “the people said…”
    That’s new…
    Said twice in the article…

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  4. Linda K. says:

    Here is a NYTimes article on Mifsud from July,2019 seemingly saying Republicans are using Mifsud to divert attention from Trump.

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    • LouisianaTeaRose says:

      Yep. Guess what else was groovin’ that day…..the Judiciary Committee, when they had Mueller on the barb-be….

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      • Sherri Young says:

        Good catch. The author, Eileen Sullivan, is assigned to do early morning coverage of PDJT (according to what I see on the internet). She has worked with Adam Goldman, who covered the FBI and the Russia investigation. I don’t understand why she would be filing that particular story instead of Goldman unless she was asked to cover for him during vacation or something similarly temporary.

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  5. Ned Zeppelin says:

    Misfud is connected to rogue CIA op, a Brennan scheme he foisted upon an insufficiently curious FBI. The FBI quickly figured out it was bogus info and kept going, which will be a problem revealed in Horowitz’s report, but framed in the usual “failed to follow rules” scolding schoolmaster mode. I think Horowitz’s jurisdiction stops at the DOJ-FBI border and he is not equipped nor authorized to offer opinions about Misfud. I think we may hear confirmation that Papa D was asked by the FBI to wear a wire and meet with Misfud, which would suggest Brennan’s scheme to mislead the FBI into opening its investigation succeeded. This is, I think, what the “conflation” is misrepresenting.

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    • Elle says:

      sounds plausible. Like

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    • OldParatrooper says:

      Mifsud was well known in the Western European/EU/NATO intelligence services, since he taught classes at the NATO Defense College in Rome.

      The FBI, OTOH were likely unaware of Mifsud, since they are Law Enforcement rather than Military or Intelligence.

      Which allowed the CIA to slow-roll the FBI by claiming that Mifsud was a Russian agent.

      I suspect that the upper reaches of the FBI knew the truth, but the field agents didn’t.

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  6. If Mifsud was a Russian agent he would have been arrested by the Europeans years ago. Europeans hate Russia.

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  7. DeWalt says:

    If he was a Russian asset wouldn’t the Italians or Brits be acting against him? Would they continue to allow him to reside in these countries? That’s your answer right there.

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    • Zippy says:

      “Would they continue to allow him to reside in these countries?”

      In an Italian newspaper article linked to in one of Papa-D’s tweets it was claimed that Mifsud was told by Italian intel to lie low. Their reason wasn’t given in the article. It was also pointed out that during the period of time he had “disappeared” he was living near the US embassy in Rome. These add even more odor to an already incredibly smelly origin story and aftermath.

      As I pointed out above, so-called Trump allies should have made Mifsud a target for interview from DAY ONE of the Mueller farce. Why didn’t they? Because even Trump’s so-called allies aren’t?

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  8. GuessAgain says:

    If, as FBI Director James Comey and the FBI investigators have claimed, Joseph Mifsud was a Russian asset… then every intelligence agency in the Western Intelligence Alliance has been compromised…. including our own State Department who invited Mifsud to lecture in Washington DC in January 2017; right before he “disappeared.”
    Would’t there be a FISA on Mifsud if Comey and Brennan believed he was a Russian asset?
    If not why not?

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    • Zippy says:

      Also, see my comment above about an apparently missing damage assessment which would have been required.

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    • Chewbarkah says:

      FBI doesn’t have to get FISA warrants to spy on foreigners. But your point would still be valid — where are the counter-espionage files on him?

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      • nimrodman says:

        well, if they’re counter-espionage files, I expect they’d be hidden away in file drawers and computer directories labelled “SECRET”, no?

        where else would we expect counter-espionage files to be?

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        • Chewbarkah says:

          You are so behind the times. Anti-Trump files are sent to the WaPo and NYT for safekeeping, but in this case, the files were lost in a tragic boating accident near Langley, VA.

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  9. Bendix says:

    Once again, I confess that all this makes my head spin, congratulations to those making the attempt to follow it all.
    Here are two tiny pieces, as reminders:
    http://www.iitaly.org/node/34936
    “Oh, mamma mia”. Nancy Pelosi’s Six-Day Visit to Italy
    https://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/nancy-pelosi-travel-italy-ukraine-august-recess-congress-120826
    Pelosi to travel to Italy, Ukraine to start August recess
    2009 and 2015, long before President Trump.

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  10. California Joe says:

    I suspect that the $1 million DOD paid to Halper included the $$$ that was paid to Mifsud and others. Halper was the crew chief and paid the people he recruited probably including the Australian and Italian officials as well as Mifsud! This was the government had no direct connection to Mifsud and the others.

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    • zimbalistjunior says:

      would the MSM be forced to pay attention to this if it is revealed that Halper was part of West Coast mafia rat-f-ers with Donald Segretti and is thus connected to Watergate?

      bc Halper’s background sure suggests a strong chance that he was…someone may want to investigate that…segretti is still alive apparently (last seen in public eye when he was local campaign coordinator for some presidential aspirant named John McCain)

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  11. hokkoda says:

    I just heard Nancy Pelosi on the radio claim that Trump is directly responsible for the deaths of 13,000 Ukrainians because he withheld the aid. And, that he did this specifically to help Russia.

    Now there’s crazy, and then there’s a blood libel. That is a modern day blood libel.

    If I was Trump, I would take her public comment, tweet it out, and tell people that she is issuing a blood libel. It is a perfect way to illustrate how crazy with blind rage the Democrats have become. “This is what blind rage looks like. This is how crazy these people are.”

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    • BigTalkers says:

      Think she’s scared..?

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      • hokkoda says:

        I don’t like to get my hopes up, but this level of rhetoric is so bad that I’m starting to think maybe there’s real meat coming from Horowitz/Durham. I still have my doubts, but that’s the only thing that can explain this thermonuclear level of blood libel.

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        • Battleship Wisconsin says:

          The House will be voting articles of impeachment, more likely sooner than later. And so a key question which must now be addressed is whether or not early public release of the classified Spygate documents during the course of the post-impeachment Senate trial would legally prejudice any criminal cases brought later against the Spygate perps. See my further thoughts about this question here:

          https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/12/05/december-5th-2019-presidential-politics-trump-administration-day-1050/comment-page-6/#comment-7628361

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          • hokkoda says:

            Yeah, I predicted that a couple of months ago. The hearings are irrelevant. They’ve already got the articles written and have had them written for quite awhile. Now they’re just trying to pack even MORE information in there to make it look like an overwhelming case.

            They could get Schiff to s**t in a paper bag, write “articles of impeachment” on the bag and send it to the floor and get 218 Democrat votes at this point. Which is, figuratively speaking, what they are doing.

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        • They act like disturbed killer bees because it is a cult, the Cult of the Insane Left (the Democrat party since the ascension of ObamaSoetoro in 2008). How many times do I have to inform people before everybody starts connecting the dots in what they see for themselves?

          People need to see Lea Remini’s TV series on Scientology. David Muscavage (sp?), the leader of that cult, has a history of savagely beating anyone who irritates him in the slightest, even the highest people in the cult. One more time then: It’s a savage cult, and it can’t stand to be revealed for what it is, or blocked in any way. The whole Democrat population needs to be institutionalized (yes, I know, it can’t be done; it still needs to be done).

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          • hokkoda says:

            I told my friends back in 2015/16 that Trump represents a mortal threat to the Government Party. They will do ANYTHING to stop him. When impeachment fails, they’ll turn to violence.

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  12. mark says:

    I wonder what the FISA court thinks now that they know Mifsud was not a Russian asset but employed by the US inteligance agency? I’m sure Horrowitz will cover this in detail in his 500 page report. sarc

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    • Zippy says:

      He may cover it. However, as to the consequences:

      FISA Court Rolls Over, Plays Dead
      Aug 28, 2013

      https://www.forbes.com/sites/jennifergranick/2013/08/28/fisa-court-rolls-over-plays-dead/#2b26114763ae

      A newly declassified opinion shows FISA court “oversight” in the face of egregious, unconstitutional and potentially criminal government misconduct means nothing.

      Last week, thanks to the Electronic Frontier Foundation’s excellent FOIA work, we got the gift of a newly declassified 2011 FISA court opinion. The opinion finds that the government misled the FISA court for over three years about the details of its illegal and unconstitutional surveillance programs. These lies hid from the court the fact that every year, the NSA is collecting at least 56,000 emails – and possibly many more — between innocent Americans who have no foreign connections and are suspected of no crimes. That’s bad, but the worst part of it is, when the government’s lies were finally exposed the FISA court demanded … that NSA analysts read our private messages right away, so they can be used or deleted more quickly. In other words, the government got not a slap on the wrist, but a pat on the back.

      This was the third lie in less than three years that the FISA court had learned about. The judge described one such pattern of lying in Footnote 14 of this newly declassified opinion. There, the clearly outraged judge said the NSA had misrepresented so frequently and systematically how it conducted its program to collect and query Americans’ phone call records that the agency had utterly subverted the Court-mandated oversight regime for that program.

      So what did the court do when it found out it had been lied to, that purely domestic communications were fair game, that untold numbers of innocent people were being illegally spied on, and that all the safeguards in place needed to be rethought?

      Nothing, really. The court suggested the NSA should train its analysts to notice when their queries turned up an MCT – i.e., an Internet transaction containing multiple messages — and then to look carefully at all the by-catch. If existing procedures allowed them to use anything in those purely domestic messages that they were never supposed to have collected in the first place, great! Otherwise, only after collection and review, should the information be deleted. The NSA adopted this approach, and continues to blithely collect Internet transactions containing wholly domestic communications between innocent Americans to this day.

      So in the face of illegal, unconstitutional and potentially criminal conduct — conduct about which the NSA repeatedly lied to the FISA court — the FISA court “corrected” the problem by requiring … banner warnings that something might be an MCT, and an extra round of review by NSA analysts. The real problem – that the NSA regularly collects Americans’ most private communications that the law does not permit it to collect and lies about it to the FISA court – was simply waved away.

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  13. Dave Hunter says:

    My LOL moment was reading that Horowitz “asked the IC” if Mifsud was an asset. Right. Seems to me they’d never answer that question truthfully.

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    • hokkoda says:

      The fact that Horowitz is asking about it is, I think, some of the reason behind the Democrats losing their s**t this week. If that blows up, it takes a lot of them down with it. It proves Trump was right, that there really was – and IS – a plot against him. It proves that the Deep State is wholly evil and its ranks should be decimated. At first, they’ll try to make it all sound so terribly confusing.

      Then it’s going to become clear that it’s really not all that confusing at all. The CIA and FBI ran an “op” against candidate, then President, Trump to frame him for high treason. They used people known in the spy community to plant evidence, and then they used that planted evidence as a pretext to launch multiple, illegal, investigations involving multiple, illegal, warrants.

      Even IF Horowitz comes back and says the basic FBI/DOJ processes and procedures were followed, his journey stops at the waters’ edge. Durham is following the money, which is why he is at ONA, which is how we found out that the Clinton Campaign was behind Steele. It’s quite possible that it won’t be long until we find out that CIA money was being funneled through DoD/ONA to pay for Halper, Mifsud, and others.

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      • hokkoda says:

        And “oh by the way”, they are following the exact same template with the Ukraine hoax. Which, not coincidentally, involves many of the same people. Such as Ciaramella, Schiff, Atkinson, and others.

        If Coup Part One gets rolled up, Coup Part Two gets ensnared too.

        If neither gets outed, then I think a lot of Republicans are in a frame of mind at this point to just go to D.C. and burn those m*****r*****rs to the ground.

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  14. Chewbarkah says:

    1) Why would we believe anything spewed by these stooge journalists? Who is leaking content of communications between Horowitz and Durham? Smells of lies.
    2) Even if we did believe it, the leaks as parsed rely on semantic games to hide the truth. By some internal technical definition, perhaps they can claim Mifsud wasn’t a US Intelligence Asset, just a British asset or Italian asset helping John Brennan of the books. That type of distinction without a difference means squat.

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  15. Curt says:

    These issues will NEVER be brought to light as long as the majority DOJ, FBI, NSA, CIA, et al, are staffed with majority deep state bureaucrats. All one has to do is look at that snake Christopher Wray to see obfuscation and outright cover ups….. Sundance and many other’s efforts are beyond commendable, but without honest investigation and with a dishonest press, this is an almost impossible issue to prove. Injustice abounds. Conservatives cannot get justice from a legal system based in Washington DC.

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  16. Mara says:

    One thing you have to keep in mind is that people can be very incompetent. You are assuming Barr et al. have a crack team that is 100% hell bent on uncovering this. Maybe these folk are just doing a job and writing down what they are told. Doesn’t take much disinfo to cause an investigation to take years – especially if someone in a high place has the resources to hide stuff.

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    • hokkoda says:

      True, but what is fascinating to me is how really quite simple this whole mess is. The Progs like to make it sound like a complicated conspiracy theory, like they used to do with the Clinton/dossier stuff. But the Clinton/dossier stuff had a money chain that looked like this:

      Clinton Campaign/DNC -> Perkins Coie -> FusionGPS -> Steele Steele writes dossier, and works with friendlies at State, Justice, FBI, etc. to inject it into the community. All they had to do was ignore derogatory information about Steele and lie to the FISC.

      How much you wanna bet the Mifsud/PapaD thing has a money chain that looks like this:

      CIA/Brennan -> ONA/Baker -> Contract/Halper -> Subcontract/Mifsud Mifsud plants evidence and friendlies at CIA, Justice, FBI, etc. jump on the triggers. All they had to do was ignore exculpatory evidence exonerating PapaD and lie to the FISC.

      It’s a simple matter of reprogramming money to move it from CIA to DoD, and I bet there are a million ways from Sunday to do that without Congress ever finding out. Or, the SSCI /Gang of 8 knew and approved of it.

      That does not take a crack team of investigators to figure out, and word is that Durham has expanded his investigation to ONA/Baker. What is one of the early findings? Baker is the guy who leaked the Flynn TS/SCI SIGINT intercept…which is a felony punishable by major, major, jail time and big fines. They have Baker by the balls if that’s true.

      And of course, surrounding all of this, is the context. Context helpfully provided by Page/Strzok whose text messages get more damning by the day and inform us about the perps state of mind, their motive, and their opportunity.

      Now we just have to see if the AG has the balls to pull the trigger.

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  17. Zippy says:

    “By some internal technical definition, perhaps they can claim Mifsud wasn’t a US Intelligence Asset, just a British asset or Italian asset helping John Brennan of the books.”

    The NYT has already done so by claiming that, TADA!, he wasn’t an FBI agent… although no one seriously claimed he was. An article in The Intercept showed “proof”, TADA!, that he wasn’t an Italian intel agent… although no one ever seriously claimed he was.

    Set up straw men and then knock ’em down! Plenty good enough to fool a percentage of the microscopic percentage of people even following the scandal to that kind of depth. When I read responses to Trump’s tweets on Twitter I realize what a propagandized majority idiocracy we live in which makes it easy for the Deep State to delay, obfuscate, and push this deep under the rug. Just watch.

    The ONLY recourse is to make damned sure Trump is reelected in 2020.

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  18. redridge45 says:

    Me thinks there are spies everywhere by design so we can’t nail them to one cross…

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  19. Bruce_Dern's_Finger says:

    aka Obama is a CIA ASSet.

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  20. Linda K. says:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/barrs-handpicked-prosecutor-tells-inspector-general-he-cant-back-right-wing-theory-that-russia-case-was-us-intelligen

    If the WAPO represents the CIA point of view, this story spin is that Horowitz asked Durham if he had info about Mifsud being a western agent and Durham or Barr said no. But, Sidney Powell earlier in this thread, posted the idea that Barr/Durham do not answer to the IG..

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  21. tommylotto says:

    Both sides are kinda moving the goalposts.
    They asserted he was a Russian agent; we asserted he was a US intelligence asset.
    He was (apparently) neither.
    They claim victory because he was not a US asset.
    We claim victory because he was not a Russian agent.
    We are still wandering around in a fog. He was obviously acting with purpose. Who was he working for? Italy? Malta? Fusion GPS? Soros? Who knows?
    Let’s assume it’s Italy. Was Italy coordinating with US intel agencies? Did the FBI know he was a Western asset? Did US intel know he was a Western asset? Who knew what when?

    We are all just speculating and these “leaks” clear up nothing.

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    • It was a rogue CIA “In-Country” Regime-Change operation, so he was used by the CIA, and he is a CIA asset. That of course immediately explains why he disappeared. People seem to be saying he has been “found” — hiding next to the American Embassy in Rome — but he must be staying with Adm. Mike Rogers, because both seem to be missing. (I know, I know, “Durham’s got this”…Harrumph).

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    • Super Elite Lt. Col. Covfefe999 says:

      You’re missing the point of Sundance’s article.

      It’s not about us and what we believed, It’s about what the traitors, through their propaganda media, told the public. For three years we were told Mifsud was working for the Russiand and the misinformation was used to launch a frigging counterintelligence investigation!

      Now they’re walking back the claim? Well maybe the lo-fo libtards won’t notice, but as Sundance points out we do not forget.

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  22. ballgame17 says:

    To summarize all of the comments i have read : We are, and have been, daily f-d -over and lied to by our DOJ/FBI, NSA, IRS, Democrat Congress and the Courts. And, we are about to get more buckets of shit dumped on us by Horowitz and Durham and we’ll be told that it’s the latest in make-up and fragrances. We work for the government and we’re here to help (ourselves)! The “tree of liberty ” needs cut way back and the cuttings burned,

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  23. J.Thomas says:

    Has anyone heard Mifsud’s recorded tape submitted to the Italian newspaper Corriere Della Serra recorded on Nov 11 of 2019? This is the first I listened to it.
    Here:
    https://www.corriere.it/video-articoli/2019/11/13/mifsud-l-uomo-chiave-russiagate-scomparso-due-anni-riappare-audio/0e920ede-0621-11ea-a1df-d75c93ec44da.shtml?refresh_ce-cp

    Some interesting things here, all of which to be taken with a grain of salt with his audience and intent considered:

    – he has had no contact with friends and family (translated: don’t kill/prosecute/destroy my family…they know nothing)

    – repeated denials of any intelligence affiliation (boiler plate intelligence obfuscation)

    – appeals for belief that his work is purely academic and with the purpose of facilitating networking (a weak, boilerplate intelligence obfuscation)

    – claims only incidental and unwitting contact with intelligence services/operators (are we really supposed to believe this? More boilerplate intelligence obfuscation)

    – claims to have gone into hiding after the issue became public

    – “It was never my intent to obtain any information, (or to) pass from one side to another. I have never done so, because I was never in possession of any information which could be useful to one or another. All I knew were people who came from think tanks.” (This is his public explanation for why he was there. There is more information in this than in any other bit of the tape…and a lot of information because of what he is not saying. He’s saying that he did not push anything from the Russians to PapaD because he did not have them to offer, has no connections to Russians other than connecting networks through benevolence…A to B, B to C, etc. That infers that he could connect PapaD to the Russians who could get him the dirt.)

    – refutes the premise that Link Campus is involved with intelligence…all those who are there were pursuing their own interests. (more boilerplate intelligence obfuscation)

    – Claims that his Catholic creed is the motivation for connecting people (ah, convenient)

    – there was no pressure to keep a low profile, but only advice “from friends” to escape from the limelight (again, obfuscation intended to keep as many options open for him as possible)

    – ultimately he makes an appeal for someone to let him come out of hiding (BOOM…finally something of interest. He wants asylum somewhere. He is keenly aware that he is going to be killed under certain circumstances (blown cover?).

    To me, this looks like its all an act. You have to wonder what audio that Barr and Durham listened to and what real information they gathered. Mifsud is still operating…giving the appearance that he is possibly a russian agent.

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    • Kent Clizbe says:

      Thanks for the link to the Mifsud tape. Very interesting.
      I can say for sure that is a Maltese accent.
      His tap-dancing around the fact that he has “no access to information of interest,” is totally irrelevant.
      His apparent role in the entrapment ops was an agent of influence, planting disinformation with young Papadapalous, and moving on.
      Otherwise, blah, blah, blah…

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  24. J.Thomas says:

    The FBI was handling Henry Greenberg as well…why has this guy not been explored further?

    This is Michael Caputo’s work. Please take a look…this is pretty damning: http://democratdossier.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/HenryGreenbergDossier.pdf

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  25. Mike says:

    Is it not well known and recognized that Mifsud was a founder and still a teacher at the so called Link Campus in Rome? Is that not a training facility for CIA Agents for European activity? So the CIA will have to maintain that a Russian/Soviet style spy founded and taught at that CIA facility for many many years

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    • Chewbarkah says:

      This is a scary thought, but I wouldn’t put it past the CIA to think using a Russian agent as a CIA trainer was a clever move. Half in jest.

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  26. Super Elite Lt. Col. Covfefe999 says:

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  27. Richard Whitney says:

    Pompeo has arrived in…Portugal. Two U.S. aircraft arrived in Portugal. OK< could be a coincidence.
    OR…could be Mifsud is on his way here, to chat/talk/be deposed.

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  28. Joseph Seely says:

    It’s not Horowitz and Durham that they wish to conflate, it’s Halper and Mifsud.

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  29. Twisted says:

    I noticed in the IG’s FISA report. It says that the FBI was asked and their database was searched to see if Mifsud was a confidential human informant, with negative results. My problem with this is, I don’t think he was an FBI asset. I think he was a CIA asset. Horowitz wasn’t looking in the right place. Also, the university Mifsud “taught” at was Link campus. That place is CIA, Italian Intel recruitment school. Furthermore, I’m pretty sure this all leads back to Brennan and Clapper. Odd they work for their respective news outlets now. It’s rumored Mifsud has been in hiding because he holds the key as to how the Trump coup started. Mifsud was the sole reason the FBI was allowed a FISA warrant. He’s terrified that he might shoot himself twice in the back of the head… This was the insurance policy in the event the Dossier didn’t fully work.

    Deep State wants Trump out.
    CIA activates Mifsud to entrap Papadoplous with “Russian having Clinton emails”
    Papadopolous mentions it to Australia
    Australia notifies FBI of potential “issues” regarding Trump Campaign
    FBI then sets down the path for FISA warrant.
    Subsequently the FBI renew the warrant by excluding the exculpatory evidence that is gathered.

    Maybe I’m in left field. But it you dig into Halper, Mifsud, Link University, Brennan and Clapper. It’s scary.

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