The Mysteriously Redacted Paragraph – 700 Days Since Lindsey Graham Outlined Susan Rice CYA Memo, and DC Doesn’t Want Answers?…

In the past several days; and in anticipation of an inspector general report/release tasked to look into the FISA processes of the prior administration; I have been assembling a file, a series of reminder questions, that peer into the heart of the 2015/2016 FISA surveillance.  Today, is another reminder…  [*ahem* Sidney Powell, please note]

Left to right: Kathryn H. Ruemmler, President Obama, Lisa Monaco and Susan Rice.

Knowing what we know now, consider this long forgotten letter from Susan Rice’s lawyer Kathryn Ruemmler.  Ms. Ruemmler is currently the global co-chairman of the Latham & Watkins white collar criminal defense practice; she formerly served as White House Counsel to President Obama.  Ask yourself: how do these paragraphs reconcile?

[Feb 23, 2018] The memorandum to file drafted by Ambassador Rice memorialized an important national security discussion between President Obama and the FBI Director and the Deputy Attorney General. President Obama and his national security team were justifiably concerned about potential risks to the Nation’s security from sharing highly classified information about Russia with certain members of the Trump transition team, particularly Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn.

[…] While serving as National Security Advisor, Ambassador Rice was not briefed on the existence of any FBI investigation into allegations of collusion between Mr. Trump’s associates and Russia, and she later learned of the fact of this investigation from Director Comey’s subsequent public testimony.

Ambassador Rice was not informed of any FISA applications sought by the FBI in its investigation, and she only learned of them from press reports after leaving office. (link)

How could Ms. Rice be aware of a “national security compromise”, “particularly surrounding Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn” after a “briefing by the FBI”, if she was not briefed on the existence of an FBI investigation”?

See the problem?

Perhaps now it is worth remembering a certain paragraph within the Susan Rice letter that mysteriously dropped from the radar.  When Senator Lindsey Graham first revealed the existence of the Susan Rice “memorandum to draft”, it was at the height of the Mueller investigation.

Likely as a consequence of that ongoing investigation, there was paragraph omitted from the public release of the Susan Rice memo.  I am pretty darned sure that paragraph would answer the question I asked moments ago…. and that’s why, 700+ days later, that memo  has never been unredacted and/or released.

So here’s the background and citations for everyone to refresh.

On February 8th, 2018, Senator Lindsey Graham first revealed an inauguration day 2017  email from Susan Rice to herself. That’s 700+ days ago, and yet we still don’t know what is behind the removed and classified paragraph.

Why is this being kept hidden?

At 12:15pm on January 20th, 2017, Obama’s outgoing National Security Advisor Susan Rice wrote a memo-to-self. Many people have called this her “CYA” (cover your ass) memo, from the position that Susan Rice was protecting herself from consequences if the scheme against President Trump was discovered. Here’s the email:

On January 5, following a briefing by IC leadership on Russian hacking during the 2016 Presidential election, President Obama had a brief follow-on conversation with FBI Director Jim Comey and Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates in the Oval Office. Vice President Biden and I were also present.

President Obama began the conversation by stressing his continued commitment to ensuring that every aspect of this issue is handled by the Intelligence and law enforcement communities “by the book“.

The President stressed that he is not asking about, initiating or instructing anything from a law enforcement perspective. He reiterated that our law enforcement team needs to proceed as it normally would, by the book.

From a national security perspective, however, President Obama said he wants to be sure that, as we engage with the incoming team, we are mindful to ascertain if there is any reason that we cannot share information fully as it relates to Russia.

[Redacted Classified Section of Unknown length]

The President asked Comey to inform him if anything changes in the next few weeks that should affect how we share classified information with the incoming team. Comey said he would.

Susan Rice ~ (pdf link)

This has the hallmarks of an Obama administration justification memo, written by an outgoing National Security Advisor Susan Rice to document why there have been multiple false and misleading statements given to incoming President Trump and his officials.

This is not a “CYA” memo per se’, this appears to be a justification memo for use AFTER the Trump-Russia collusion/conspiracy narrative collapsed; and if the impeachment effort failed.

The “By The Book” aspect refers to President Obama and Susan Rice being told by CIA Director John Brennan, FBI Director James Comey, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, and Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates, that President Trump was the subject of an active counterintelligence investigation…. Yet, Rice denies ever knowing about Trump being under investigation?  This contradiction cannot be reconciled.

So with the Mueller investigation concluded, why didn’t Senator Lindsey Graham release the full email content, including the classified and redacted aspects which remain hidden?

Susan Rice responded to Senator Graham’s letter through her attorney Kathryn Ruemmler. Again, Ms. Ruemmler is the global co-chairman of the Latham & Watkins white collar criminal defense practice; she formerly served as White House Counsel to Obama.

Ruemmler’s letter stated there was nothing unusual about Rice’s email memorializing a White House meeting two weeks after the meeting occurred, January 5, 2017. Additionally, Ms. Rice’s lawyer said her client was completely unaware of the FBI investigation into President Trump at the time she made the draft on January 20th.

In part, Ms. Ruemmler’s letter on behalf of Rice states:

The memorandum to file drafted by Ambassador Rice memorialized an important national security discussion between President Obama and the FBI Director and the Deputy Attorney General. President Obama and his national security team were justifiably concerned about potential risks to the Nation’s security from sharing highly classified information about Russia with certain members of the Trump transition team, particularly Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn.

In light of concerning communications between members of the Trump team and Russian officials, before and after the election, President Obama, on behalf of his national security team, appropriately sought the FBI and the Department of Justice’s guidance on this subject. In the conversation Ambassador Rice documented, there was no discussion of Christopher Steele or the Steele dossier, contrary to the suggestion in your letter.

Given the importance and sensitivity of the subject matter, and upon the advice of the White House Counsel’s Office, Ambassador Rice created a permanent record of the discussion. Ambassador Rice memorialized the discussion on January 20, because that was the first opportunity she had to do so, given the particularly intense responsibilities of the National Security Advisor during the remaining days of the Administration and transition.

Ambassador Rice memorialized the discussion in an email sent to herself during the morning of January 20, 2017. The time stamp reflected on the email is not accurate, as Ambassador Rice departed the White House shortly before noon on January 20.

While serving as National Security Advisor, Ambassador Rice was not briefed on the existence of any FBI investigation into allegations of collusion between Mr. Trump’s associates and Russia, and she later learned of the fact of this investigation from Director Comey’s subsequent public testimony.

Ambassador Rice was not informed of any FISA applications sought by the FBI in its investigation, and she only learned of them from press reports after leaving office.

Here’s the full letter:


Everything about this Susan Rice email, including the explanations from her lawyer Kathryn H. Ruemmler, is sketchy and suspicious. The sketchy extends to Senator Graham’s lack of action to declassify the redacted paragraph.

Nothing about this DC activity is passing the proverbial sniff test…

As we await the DOJ Inspector General report on FBI FISA authorized surveillance directed toward the Trump campaign and incoming Trump administration; which apparently is significant enough connected to the DOJ case against Flynn such that the prosecution has requested a delay in further proceedings until the IG report is released; I would remind everyone the biggest challenge for current U.S. Attorney General Bill Barr is not necessarily investigating evidence we do not know, but rather navigating through the minefield of evidence a significant portion of the American public are well aware of.

Borrowing from a comment to emphasize the point therein:

We will know the FISA Report is a whitewash if Byrne and Butina are not addressed by disclosing whether Republican presidential candidates other than Trump were surveilled.

For Rogers to conduct his audit and for Collyer to conclude therefrom that 85% of the 11/1/15 through 4/18/16 searches were unauthorized, the database has to have some type of access/search history — whether who or what or when or all three — and for Collyer to conclude that the same person was searched multiple times suggests that its access/search history is qualitative, not just quantitative.

This should also be the case due to the need to regulate statutory two hop authority under Title 1. If you cannot audit access/search history through one or two hops, you cannot know whether the accessor/searcher stopped at two hops for enforcement purposes.

Under such circumstances, the database is subject to abuse beyond our wildest dreams, given it is left to the good faith of those accessing/searching to regulate themselves without any potential oversight.

If this is the case, then Horowitz should tell us (as should have Collyer before him). If it is not, then Horowitz should describe the access/search history of the FISA application for Carter Page, as well as the 3 renewals.

He should describe the extent of the electronic surveillance on Page — text, cell, email, internet, GPS, financial and travel — then identify all those surveilled on the first and second hops, including specifically those affiliated with the Trump campaign or family, including Candidate Trump, both primary and general, President-elect Trump, and President Trump.

The meeting between President-elect Trump and Admiral Rogers had to have communicated actual NSA database surveillance, whether authorized by the FISA court or not, for Trump to react by moving his transition team from Trump Tower and for cabinet members in the intelligence community to urge the ouster of Rogers to President Obama in response. We just don’t know how much Rogers told Trump.

As head of the NSA, Rogers was in a position to monitor database access and search history even outside the confines of the audit, so theoretically he could have monitored every access/search conducted under the Page FISA application and renewals, and provided continuous updates to President Trump through their expiration. But if the small group knew he had that capacity, knew he was watching them, then why seek the renewals in the first place?

To cut through the intrigue, Horowitz should disclose whether the audit revealed electronic FISA database surveillance on candidates other than Trump. If the access/search history for the subcontractors reveals surveillance of Cruz or Rubio, in the same timeframe as Byrne was running Butina through their campaigns, then that is clearly political espionage, using “Russian influence or collusion” as a pretext.

If all of these issues are observable by a poor lurker from what Sundance has been addressing for the last 3 years, Horowitz should be able to see them from his investigation. If he does not address them, we have a whitewash.

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273 Responses to The Mysteriously Redacted Paragraph – 700 Days Since Lindsey Graham Outlined Susan Rice CYA Memo, and DC Doesn’t Want Answers?…

  1. Ludo says:

    Well played, Sundance. They are going to be forthcoming or they are check mate in two moves.

    Liked by 9 people

  2. Doug Amos says:

    Sticky little spot for the swamp. Barr has the transcripts. If he chooses to interpret them to the swamp’s benefit, he makes himself and all of them irrelevant for the rest of their lives which indeed, like Romney, most of them already are. At that point, President Trump merely releases the transcripts and confirms our everlasting contempt and with it a stigma they and their families will forever by identified with.. There is no escape route.

    Liked by 26 people

    • TradeBait says:

      Excellent post, Doug. Agree completely. There is a lot at stake personally and professionally for Barr, the supporting cast, their families and their legacies. The financial cost of their investigation of what we already knew was horrible corruption exponentially surpasses the Mueller Hoax. The national psychological cost cannot be calculated.

      Choose this day whom you will serve…

      Liked by 15 people

    • paulashley says:

      Or … Trump caves to the deep state and allows it pass by, knowing at that point, short of civil unrest, there nothing he can do other than sit out his second term and retire onhis personal wealth. I’m not sure i’d blame him.

      Liked by 1 person

    • Indimex says:

      Question: Is it true that the President of the U.S. has the authority to release to the public ANY information he desires? Does he have to submit a request, or, obtain approval from another entity?


      • The applicable IC entity – – I believe.

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        • craig says:

          The president is over the IC and has plenary power to declassify anything.

          Liked by 2 people

          • Rhoda R says:

            A smart President will listen to the objections of the IC over any particular decision, but he isn’t bound by them. Anyone remember that $70,000 table the Comey ordered that was classified?

            Liked by 5 people

          • John-Y128 says:

            Ordering a declassification and having the IC actually do it, is the difference, I’m sure the IC can find a friendly court. And why wait all this time to release anything, ‘we the people’ are not President Trump’s first concern, that’s why he turned it over to AG Barr.


            • zekness says:

              never under-estimate the power of a mysterious leak, ala wikileaks style.

              consider the outcome of a unredacted release of this material (and others).

              it would require the opposition to seek a legal remedy and confound a very confused deluded media message. favorable to the president.

              a. the legal remedy would force the opposition to seek redress from a court, where these arguments would have to be established and would likely eventually result in a firestorm about the veracity of the release…a good leak would easily overcome this. certainly if the leaker seeks full whistleblower status…right..think about it..the tables being turned

              b. it also follows that fact witnesses eventually get called to testify. fact witnesses that address the memo itself…think: rice. and the persons she alludes to in the memo

              c. the release also gives open source knowledge that directly feeds to durham and huber criminal investigations..and those are more important as a goal than the political “court” or the media conflicts and noise.

              d. the release also gives notice to Barr to maintain integrity and he will have to clearly ignore any ommissions from the DOJ IG report ..more sunshine and a “relief” for what appears to be a very complicated problem he is finding himself in.

              e. the whistleblower seeking protections at first,would make a sudden press brief identifying as “I am the batman”…a person who would be seen by americans as having no direct ties of benefits to the case or even loyalty to the president or any relationship to the WH. And THAT act asserts the integrity of the source of the leak (unlike the current situation wrt to ciaramella, eric and the ruse schiff has created)…and it asserts the falsifiability of the authentication of the leak material itself.

              f. the president can then tweet with facts that inform.

              g. americans get answers to questions they probably don’t even think are important..because lets face it, outside of perhaps 200 people here at CTH and other corners of the US.. noone is recalling the significance of a redaction to a little reported memo, from 700 days ago..much less who susan rice WAS and the problems of the previous administration is conducting this coup CYA and “insurance”.

              h. it also in one fell swoop reveals to voters who graham really is.where his priorities are..and to whom and what he maintains power..and for what reasons…

              release the hounds..

              make it so.

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    • Dutchman says:

      I THINK there is yet ANOTHER major sticking point in this, if my memory is accurate.
      I BELIEVE I recall reading here on CTH, that any time a FISA warrant is sought, ON A U.S. CITISEN (as opposed to foreign national) a WAIVER must be obtained, which can ONLY be signed by,….drum roll, please,…EITHER POTUS, or his NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR.

      So, either Susan Rice signed waivers for the FISA warrants on Carter Page, Gen Flynn, etc. OR President Obama did, and Rice coyldn’t have signed them, if the lawyers statement that she had no idea there was a counter-intel investigation against Trump team is accurate.
      Or, Obama signed the waiver, despite what Rice says he said in the meeting she memorialised.
      Or, they submitted the applications, which even though the warrants were clearly for “U.S. person Carter Page”, and didn’t have signed waivers, the court granted them anyway.

      FUBAR, as there is no acceptable answer, spin or excuse. And, one would think the IG would have noticed this GLARING failure to follow the law, rules and regs, and policies and procedures.

      After all, that IS his job.

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      • I think this is their “out”: In 2011, the Obama administration secretly won permission from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court to reverse restrictions on the National Security Agency’s use of intercepted phone calls and e-mails, permitting the agency to search deliberately for Americans’ communications in its massive databases.
        The searches take place under a surveillance program Congress authorized in 2008 under Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. Under that law, the target must be a foreigner “reasonably believed” to be outside the United States, and the court must approve the targeting procedures in an order good for one year. But a warrant for each target would thus no longer be required.
        The whole camel is in the tent!
        That means that communications with Americans could be picked up without a court first determining that there is probable cause that the people they were talking to were terrorists, spies or “foreign powers”. The FISC also extended the length of time that the NSA is allowed to retain intercepted U.S. communications from five years to six years with an extension possible for foreign intelligence or counterintelligence purposes. Both measures were done without public debate or any specific authority from Congress.

        The court’s judges are appointed solely by the Chief Justice of the United States without confirmation or oversight by the U.S. Congress. This gives the chief justice the ability to appoint like-minded judges and create a court without diversity. Since May 2014, four of the five judges appointed by Chief Justice Roberts to the FISA Court were appointed to their prior federal court positions by Presidents Bill Clinton and Barack Obama.

        CJ Roberts’ oversight has either been lacking, or criminal, imho.

        Liked by 8 people

        • Dutchman says:

          It wouldn’t reassure me, in the slightest, if they had previously been appointed by either of the Bush’s.

          Its a Big club, tightly interconnected, and WE AIN’T IN IT.
          And yeah, there are too many of these things to be coincidence. This has been a planned, systemic effort to circumvent the Constitution, by the elites, with active participation by all three branches.
          Executive, Legislative AND Judicial, and Roberts is,…..well lets just say NOT our friend.

          Liked by 7 people

        • Jederman says:

          2011, lets see, that followed the 2010 TP mid-term thrashing and the all hands on deck response. IRS abuse to follow.

          I suspect that any and all executive branch offices, depts, agencies… were activated to suppress the threat to the “fundamental transformation.”

          So far the LE and IC are getting the attention.

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        • OldParatrooper says:

          A couple of points. Foreigners outside the US don’t have US rights, and collecting their phone calls, emails or texts is perfectly acceptable by the IC. No warrants required.

          Unfortunately, the communications technologies in use today make it spectacularly difficult to collect against a specific phone number or email address. So the IC collects in bulk, and uses warrants to justify searches within the database. FISA warrants are used for foreigners inside the US, and US persons inside or outside the US.

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      • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

        Page 147 Lorretta Lynch deposition
        Q What is the Attorney General’s role in a FISA review, in any FISA review?
        A By statute, the ATTORNEY GENERAL is the final signatory on FISA applications.
        By regulation, the signatory authority has been delegated — or shall I say shared — with the DEPUTY AG { and the head of the national security division as long as the people in those
        positions are presidentially appointed and Senate-confirmed.
        In practice, most of the FISA applications are given final signatory approval at the national security division level. Although as the Attorney General, I often would sign and review them if the NSD chief or DAG were unavailable. Because all three of those people often
        travel, you need more than one person who can, in fact, sign the FISAs.
        There’s a process of review that goes from the agency that is drafting it. Their process involves interagency coordination about classified material, sources, things are vetted, lawyers from NSD are involved in drafting the document.
        Also, there are chains of review at the attorney level as well.There are chains of review at the agency level, and ultimately,presentations are made to the signing official.
        If it were me, for example, as Attorney General, you receive a briefing from a team of several documents. And you have a summary to review, and you also have all the underlying documents to review. And typically, you’ll see that every one — that the signatures below you are appropriately there, because yours is on top of it. But you look
        at the signatures, you review the documents, you read the summary, you read the updates, you read the relevant portions of it for review.
        Q And then it goes to the FISA court?
        A If it’s signed by the Attorney General, it does go to the
        FISA court, yes.

        Comports with what these blokes said at 1:08 in response to DaNang Dick Blumenthal

        Doncha see?
        The FISA Approval process is perfect…specifically designed so that

        No wonder NYT/WaPo’s “unnamed sources” UNFAMILIAR with
        who only saw drafts and could only reply VERBALLY (to Federal Agents no doubt)
        are in panic mode.
        First FISA maybe……3 renewals are big trouble.
        Especially as Horowitz (and Powell) have laid out a veritable buffet of info for Durham over the past year.

        (Surprise! Now they’re saying Horowitz should investigate BARR….LOL!!)

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        • Dutchman says:

          Yes, ‘on paper’ it SOUNDS like they had established an air tight, multi-layered series of checks, to insure NO possibility of error.

          And just from what we KNOW, its obvious that is,all HOGWASH, and each layer simply parroted or rubber stamped the previous.

          Memory is either the first or last thing to go, (can’t remember which) so again I MAY be remembering incorrectly,…but.

          My MEMORY is that IF the FISA warrant is on a U.S. Citisen, there is an EXTRA requirement, for a waiver, that has to be signed by either the POTUS, or his Nat. Sec. Advisor.

          So, IF my memory is accurate, WHO signed the Waivers for these FISA warrants on Carter Page, Gen. Flynn, PapaD, etc.?

          Certainly NOT ms.cya Rice, as her lawyer says she had NO knowledge of any counter intel investigation, (ludicrous) which leaves Obama who, according to Rices memo to self, was taking a very hands off approach.

          Point is, again if my memory is accurate, WHERES the WAIVER, and WHO signed it.

          This question alone cuts through the layers and the crap, and takes it right to the Oval office, where we all KNOW it goes.

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          • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

            Everywhere I check it’s always 3 at DOJ with authority.
            The Carter Page FISA application is already available no special waiver page.
            There is in the FISA Act the ability of the Prez or AG in EMERGENCY SITUATION (cough) to unilaterally get surveillance on a non-American American (cough)

            Exception to Court Order Requirement: The President may authorize electronic surveillance to acquire foreign intelligence information for periods of up to one year without a FISC court order where the Attorney General certifies that there is “no substantial likelihood that the surveillance will acquire the contents of any communication to which a U.S. person is a party,” provided the surveillance is directed solely at communications among or between foreign powers, or “the acquisition of technical intelligence … from property or premises under the open and exclusive control of a foreign power.” 50 U.S.C. § 1802.

            Bongino and others have said
            the NSC has to sign off if the FBI wants to do any NON-SPYING on foreign turf.


            • Dutchman says:

              Well, I DID say I was going from memory. Again, it was an extra requirement, that ONLY applied to FISA warrant, against a U.S. person.

              Even if my memory IS wrong, the notion that Obama and Rice didn’t KNOW what was going on, strains credulity WAY past the breaking point.

              Liked by 1 person

              • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

                No sweat and NO DOUBT O an R knew what was going on.

                Remember Nunes presser after his “midnite run”……he said he had seen:
                unmasked raw intelligence
                of Trump transition team
                collected “legally”
                nothing to do with Russia
                and this intel was from Nov 16-Jan 17

                That info coincides perfectly with the first CP FISA.


    • Occasional Commenter says:

      IMO, the real tell will be whether Horowitz or Durham mention the overarching crime that unified all these individual breaches of law and policy by all the various players and agencies. It will be nice to see that Agent XYZ violated this and that specific law, but what about the overarching animus that drove all the various actors to do all these things toward a common goal? In short, will anyone in D.C. have the spine to surface charges of sedition and seditious conspiracy (I think treason is a bridge too far). Or perhaps RICO.

      Charges of sedition and/or seditious conspiracy are the only things that will permanently stop the attempted impeachment and other harassment of the president. If such charges aren’t levied, then the Democrats will keep at it, only a tad more cautiously, because they’ve got so much invested in their Trump-hatred they can do no other.

      Liked by 3 people

      • ann says:

        To me, in the peanut gallery, this has always been refusal to transfer power, as per constitution.
        Legalistic BS Justifications using by paid for known fantastical myths and dirty tricks.

        How can that NOT be treason? .


  3. WhiteBoard says:

    Why was Rice’s conversation with the ‘Deputy’ AG and not with Lynch?

    is this an indicator of intent to sabotage the incoming president due to the deputy being a holdover?

    she could of had it all inclusive with Lynch there also.

    Liked by 2 people

    • dwpender says:

      Yates had been Deputy AG in charge of the DOJ-NSD. IIRC she, not Lynch, signed the original Carter Page FISA warrant application, as well as the first renewal application.

      The first renewal was on January 12, 2017. I haven’t seen the date the application was filed. IMO Comey left the January 5 meeting and went on his way to Trump Tower hoping to “discover/entrap” extra material from Trump himself, which Comey would gleefully relay to the “small group” for inclusion in he renewal application.

      IMO the conspirators were starting to get concerned that even a rubber-stamping, hack FISA Judge might halt the whole operation and say, “In less than 2 weeks this man will be President of the United States and Commander in Chief, and YOU “professional” holdovers expect ME to continue your authority to conduct virtually unlimited, Title I surveillance of the POTUS and all his senior advisers well into the new Administration? Are YOU kidding?”

      At the January 5 meeting, Obama glibly and sanctimoniously, advised the “career professionals” who would hold over that it was up to THEM to tell HIM what national security information(!!) HE must withhold from the incoming Commander in Chief and his team! Obama blessed the notion that career “professionals, ” rather than a duly-elected President, would continue to decide what to withhold from Trump and his team even AFTER January 20, 2017.

      HOW DARE HE?

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      • islandpalmtrees says:

        Yes, the FISA court or some portion of it appears to be involved.

        Liked by 2 people

        • dwpender says:

          IPM — You’re absolutely right that the FISA Judges are involved.

          I’ve heard often about the prosecution’s enhanced duties — to go above and beyond in searching for and disclosing exculpatory information — in ex parte applications to a court.

          What about the JUDGE’s enhanced obligations? As soon as ANY FISA Judge, with full understanding of what Title I and “hops” would mean, heard that one Administration was seeking judicial imprimatur to use the awesome surveillance capabilities of the 21st Century State to “investigate” the other major party’s Presidential candidate and his entire team (let alone the President-elect and his transition team, or the President of the United States and his Administration), he/should have seen FLASHING RED LIGHTS go off and have applied the utmost, super-duper strict scrutiny to the request. It is almost impossible to conceive ANY set of circumstances under which granting such a request would be appropriate. Yet 4 different FISA Judges did in this case!

          IMO each of these judges should be impeached and removed. If Congress was doing its job, it would be investigating THEM. Oh but wait — this is a super secret Court and only a handful of Congressmen have even seen the unredacted Page FISA applications. So how does Congress exercise its oversight responsibilities?

          Secret courts are simply inconsistent with our entire constitutional system. The FISA Court should be abolished.

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      • Will Hunt says:

        How dare he indeed. Each time I learn of the outrageous and illegal DS “overreach” Mr. Barr’s “justification” of his acceptance and release of the Weissman prosecutor’s report rings in my ears “… it was a unique situation”.

        Liked by 2 people

    • mopar2016 says:

      Because Lynch was already in CYA mode. Probably seemed like a good idea to her.
      Their party doesn’t exactly traffic in high standards.

      Liked by 4 people

  4. Rajabesar says:

    OK. Now I am getting just a bit frightened.
    If the IG report and Barr are a whitewash the DS has unequivocally won.
    The USA is “fundamentally transformed” just as O promised and forever irretrievable
    We will know soon. Very soon.
    PT may not win (or worse) if the economy tanks. Freakin doom here. Freakin doom
    Please somebody tell me it ain’t so ——– somebody————please.

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    • Dutchman says:

      Take a chill pill. To put your faith in Barr, is foolish, IMHO.

      To believe that ANYONE confirmed by Mitch McConnell is going to hold people legally accountable for the coup and cover up is,…wishful thinking.

      The swamp and deep state are not going to drain there own habitat.

      Doesn’t mean all hope is lost, though.
      The deep state and swamp creatures,are exposing themselves, by their actions and inactions.

      And swamp creatures can ONLY survive and thrive, by stealth in the murky muck. Exposure to sunlight robs them of their power and ability to control.

      Second point. What PDJT is doing, with his global trade reset, with China and EU, etc. is cutting off the flow of corrupt $ flowing into D.C.

      In order to drain a swamp, you have to cut off the flow of water INTO the swamp. The DC Swamp its MONEY, not water, but the same principle applies.
      So Chill, dude. PDJT has this covered.

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  5. DeWalt says:

    I have had it with this intrigue. I’m to the point that even the Navy Secretary’s dismissal had more to do with showing the Military his teeth (the President) than anything with Gallagher. He seems to be making the point that the “Warriors ” are squarely on the side of the President. I am reading the tea leaves to mean an outright coup and mutiny is nearer than the Public knows. We are living in dangerous times.

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    • Hoot says:

      The Marines have been ordered to mobilize per the news section of their website, marines dot mil. That says something significant. Politics has nothing to do with the Schiff show in the House, so our best citizen journalists, including Sundance, say. We must be prepared to tighten up as needed and face the future bravely. We’ve seen the storm brewing on the horizon. It may be very near. Our sham politics can’t continue any longer. Conservatives won’t abide it and the liberals can’t deal with us. This is the reason we moved back to Texas from Alaska, where we had great jobs and loved the state. We wanted to be near our elderly parents and grown kids to face whatever comes together. We have some mighty fine patriots among us. We are among friends. We will need to unify in spirit and in action.

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  6. mimbler says:

    As are all government people at his level, Barr is a politician. But he has been making statements that would be very inconvenient to himself if he intended to whitewash DOJ problems. For example, he has said spying on the trump campaign happened. If he didn’t intend to deal with it, he wouldn’t have been so blunt with his words.

    Also, I’ve always maintained that investigations can’t occur without us seeing them happen. I’ve seen nothing of Huber’s supposed investigation, but we are seeing the tracks of Durham’s and Barr’s investigation as they go to foreign countries and interview players in the coup. A grand jury has been impaneled, etc. So I’m as convinced that Barr and Durham are conducting a legitimate investigation as I am that Sessions and Huber were window dressing.

    All just my opinion, of course, but I’m currently in good cheer with Barr in place.

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  7. LouisianaTeaRose says:

    So much supposition here based only on what scraps of information are available, a plethora of reliable and unreliable sources, an incomplete historical context (stuff we just don’t know), intuition, and hope. We can all go crazy by settling on a hard-deck threshold for our expectations, or we could watch the lead taken by someone who, like an eagle, sees everything much more clearly and has a high-altitude view of it all. I am going to pay close attention and listen to my President. He has a perspective unmatched, and I trust him to frame the battles worth fighting.

    I hate to see my fellow Treepers losing their minds over stuff we just don’t know enough about yet.

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    • Exactly LTR, and well said. I’m probably thought of by many as a “Qtard” or Pollyanna as all of my comments are positive, but that isn’t it at all.

      I’m with the guy that is with me, and you, and ALL of us…

      President Donald J. Trump, VSG & Master Troll!

      Come out it will… despite those trillions at stake!

      President Trump is definitely STILL getting the masses up to speed in every venue and “media” avenue available, but I believe soon he will have to bring on every stinking bit of the Big Ugly, Americans are damn near prepared for it!

      If anyone here isn’t prepared, move quickly and become so… along with everyone you know as we ain’t seen nothin’ yet.

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  8. MaineCoon says:

    Interesting comment posted by P. Byrne referencing that Maria [Butina] order of speaking of the campaigns was always the same. Makes one think that Rubio and Cruz were included in all aspects of the political espionage just based on e repeated order of reference.

    Patrick Byrne Says:
    November 5, 2019 at 5:04 pm
    I believe I came across something last week that validates my point. It was something about, in December, 2015, Hillary was briefed on the Russian threat to her campaign. That is the month that I earlier said I was jumping up and down Warning the men in black. What if it turns out that they briefed Hillary’s campaign, but not Rubio, Cruz, and Trump? (And by the way, I always say things in those order because that is the order Maria always used.)

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  9. Sewnya says:

    Barr’s recent speech was damning. Got the left all hot a sweaty.

    Liked by 1 person

    • Will Hunt says:

      Barr’s speech to Federalist Society was the most complete and eloquent description/outline of the sad state we are currently facing. It would be shocking if the author of that address does not follow up with a meaningful effort at correcting the problems.

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  10. jus wundrin says:

    After watching this coup since the day after DJT won the 2016 election, and reading SDs articles, along with the treepers comments, there is one thing that really sticks out at me: how sloppy some of these coupsters are.

    I know they rely on their loyal MSM to play their role by whitewashing the truth, and posting fake news….which has exposed them even more as the ministry of far left propaganda. But even more aggravating are the repubs like grammy, and bureaucrats like wray who dont seem to care about the evil corruption that exists all around them, and sit on evidence that would eventually right this ship called America.

    The good thing is that most folks who call themselves repubs, or conservatives, have awakened to the first part of my 2nd paragraph. The sad part is that many have no clue about the second part, because they rely too much on those mentioned in the first part.

    Just re-elect ol’ incumbent (R) for their 6th term, and theyll provide the needs for your state! Just dont ask them how thoroughly corrupt DC is, cuz youll talk to the hand.

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  11. ChampagneReady says:

    This is another skeleton in Rice’s closet that is REALLY something I would like to know about.

    Either this memo is real or it’s phony. I think it is authentic and leaked by someone in the British Secret Service. It was a LEAKED memo and note the person it is addressed to–Boris Johnson–the very guy that Trump may be clueless is a two-faced snake and a backstabber of the highest degree involved in his planned, highly orchestrated frame up.

    Look at the nomenclature title heading: “Rt Hon” Boris Johnson. England uses this designation in their parlance of addressing an important government official which stands for ‘Right Honorable.” I just do not think that anyone faking this document would have been savvy enough or smart enough to include that distinctive title. I think it’s a giveaway that this is a real document that lays bare the titanic truth revealing confirmation of how, when and who was involved in the plot to surveil Trump and keep him from being president. This implicates, Brennan, Johnson, Rice and OBAMA !

    This essentially was the “cover sheet” of the full transmittal to Johnson. There was more in the full document Boris Johnson would have received as you will notice in paragraph 3, the cover letter references a body of work by STEELE and others that was also part of this memo and apparently was comprised of 7 more separate attachments.

    We know for a fact that GCHQ WAS up to their neck in the illegal spying of Trump to circumvent the judges here who would have never authorized the warrant to do it. That’s why Brennan enlisted GCHQ to do the dirty work.. This is indisputed and confirmed by Devin Nunes.

    I think this MI6 memo is the finite proof. It alone should be enough for John Durham to make this game, set and match to prove sedition, to get grand jury indictments and to put these cretins in government-paid housing for 20 years.

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    • jx says:

      FAKE. Debunked long ago and repeatedly.


      • ChampagneReady says:

        I’m not jumping on that train. There are too many correlating and circumstantial coincidences that conform exactly to what is in this memo.

        Rice writes to herself “we did everything by the book” per obama’s directive. This was a panic reaction to the massive exposure that they had been caught spying on the Trump campaign. It is not hype or speculation that the GCHQ ABSOLUTELY was spying on Trump and it was during the period of this document.

        The authorized period was in 3 month increments and then had to be renewed again for another 90 days just like FISA warrants. That’s what this request to Johnson was who was the Minister of Defense at that time who was Secretary of Foreign Affairs who would have to authorize it. It would be top secret and intended only for the eyes of those who were cleared to know about it just as the classification shows on the document.

        This spy request is no more debunked than obama’s phony long form birth certificate.

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  12. beachbum31 says:

    I have come to the conclusion that PDJT feels he will garner more support to be added to his base and seal the 2020 elections (house too) by maintaining the martyr position vs exposing the swarm and stomping them – giving them the opportunity to turn the martyr card back upon the administration and campaign.

    I think he is right. After he wins, however, Katie bar the door. He my even push the bar to the point of impeachment going after them in year 7-8.

    His first book outside of public office will be rivaled by only one IMO

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    • Indimex says:

      Likewise, I suspect certain information will be held back, to be tactically revealed during the 2020 campaign. What he chooses to disclose, IMO, will be very much related to the D candidate. Stay tuned! 2020 is going to be fantastic!

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  13. tav144 says:

    I would like to know what or who exactly clued Lindsey in to ask or search for this letter in the first place.

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  14. Johnny says:

    The deep state is terrified of President Trump declaring martial law to go after all the deep state coup participants. They sent him a threat thru the Navy Secretary. It was a threat that they will ignore the President of the United States if he tries to declare martial law.

    The ace up the sleeve for President Trump is he can call up the militias. The militias are in the Constitution for a good reason. They are there to put down a tyrannical government from taking control of this country. The militias are not regular military, they are the patriots that can assemble quickly witb arms that they have a constitutional right to bear. The militias are why we do belong to the British crown. The militias were called up and England was sent packing.

    If only 10 percent of the President Trump supporters sbowed up with arms and the intent to raze DC, the coup plotters would be facing between 6 to 10 million militia members awaiting orders from the President of the United States Donald J Trump.

    That is the ace up the sleeve of the President of the United States Donald J Trump.

    ATTORNEY General Barr had better not be attempting a cover up. If the President of the United States Donald J Trump has to declassify the material and the deep state attempts to ignore the order of the President of the United States Donald J Trump, then it will be time to cut the head off the snake.

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  15. GTOGUY says:

    Let’s not forget that John Durham has put FBI agents in Prison before. Also, after listening to Barr’s speech at the Federalist Society last week, I believe that he will run out every ground ball and look under every rock that is available. He started his career in the CIA as an analyst. He knew as soon as he got in the door that none of this passed the smell test..

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  16. JTaylor says:

    President Trump has had the power to declassify this Susan Rice memo with no redactions ever since he took office. He promised to declassify everything. He has never issued a declassification order.

    Liked by 1 person

    • GTOGUY says:

      He gave the order to Barr who transferred it to Durham. That allows Durham to collect evidence from all the Intel agencies without having say “mother may I” every-time he needs to see something classified. It makes sense also, that it keeps it out of the political arena and into the Law Enforcement / investigation arena.

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      • JTaylor says:

        He passed the buck. Nothing has been declassified so the leaker coup plotters still hide and are free while innocent Trump supporters are indicted and imprisoned or lose their life savings in the legal struggle to survive.


        • Justin Green says:

          I don’t think we know what’s been declassified yet. I could be wrong. But, just because something has not been leaked to the public does not mean it hasn’t been declassified.

          Declassification and distribution to the public are two different things. I guess we would know if someone like Judicial Watch requests those specific documents and gets them in a still-redacted form?

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      • Roland Woltman says:

        What If the redacted section has to do with the Russian “asset” Brennan had been entrusted to be hand delivering the “asset’s” notes directly to Obama… ?

        What if the hold up is, that “asset” happens to be a source of the Steele Dossier?



    • Ronomundo says:

      Trump did issue full declassification authority to AG Bill Barr. Here is the link:

      Liked by 2 people

      • JTaylor says:

        He passed the buck. Nothing has been declassified. So, the leaker coup plotters still hide the truth and the innocent get indicted and go to prison.

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      • zekness says:

        pendant point…delegated does not imply exclusively permanently transferred authority.

        it would be best to consider this action “flexible”,or “joint”…

        point is, POTUS retains all the authority in constitution to de-class anything here deems necessary.

        as general rule, it would not be wise…because of optics and lets face it…the reality is that some of the classmat here most certainly has material that could be very very dangerous to tradecraft…I think POTUS understands burning down the entire house and forest isn’t even on the table. Delegating the general authority AND THEN tasking Barr to curate certain specific materials..mostly materials that DS has blocked behind specious NatSec excuses, that are directly linked to the investigations of both DOJ OIG, durham and huber and anything else they have cookling….that I think is where you see how the power and the intelligence of the trump if he do chooses. It would be a good excercise of his powers to involve barr..and getting powerful strategic and tactical and legal feedback from barr to navigate that directive to its proper effect.

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  17. MustangBlues says:

    We are witnesses to governmental legal history:

    Mr. Barr is an important man in the time of legal crisis in the American constitution, the contract of social co- existence, and founding principles for this experiment in representative government.

    He is the man of virtue to cleanse and purify the evil of party pollution in governmental departmental decisions.

    Legacy in the minds of legal scholars and political leaders is monumental in their motives to do the ‘right thing’, during their moment in history.

    Mr. Barr knows better than all, what is at stake; just like President Trump.

    They act for the nation, it is their instinct, as leaders.

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  18. ” President Obama and his national security team were justifiably concerned about potential risks to the Nation’s security from sharing highly classified information about Russia with certain members of the Trump transition team, particularly Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn.”…. “jusitifiably concerned” about their OWN asses knowing that Lt.Gen Micheal Flynn wasn’t on their team since that fraud bastard obama canned him unceremoniously (….. he wouldn’t sign on to their criminality)….. they must have SHIT when president trump named him a cabinet member…. come on people, president trump and his team know FAR more than we do and thank god for that…. he’ll protect the office of president and our constitution and we should all be grateful for that! i’m heartened and thankful for the way he is exposing, and thus draining the swamp…. MAGA 2020 PRESIDENT TRUMP!

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  19. spoogels says:

    “Hard to Think of Bigger Disappointment Than Obama” – AMAZING – Liberal Writer Dunks On Obama After His Attacks on Bernie Sanders

    Hard to think of a bigger disappointment than Obama. He was elected by the largest grassroots movement in history on a promise of change, abandoned all that while in office, and cashed in after 8 years, leaving 40% of America struggling to afford basics.

    — Walker Bragman (@WalkerBragman) November 26, 2019

    It is interesting, Bragman lists off a quick recap of Obama’s empty promises.

    Quick recap of Obama’s time in office:
    – More wars
    – Bailout but no accountability for Wall Street
    – Surrendered public option w/ majorities in House & Senate
    – Increased deportations & put kids in cages
    – Prosecuted whistleblowers
    – PRISM
    – Expanded fossil fuel extraction

    It should be obvious for those paying attention that it is Trump not Obama who ended the wars, ended caging illegal immigrant children and respected the rights of whistleblowers.
    It was Trump, not Obama, who did these things.

    When you strip away the coolness, the hanging out with Jay-Z and Beyonce, the calm demeanor and eloquent speeches, you realize that Obama left us with a gig economy, stagnant wages, rising premiums, and a mountain of student debt. It was a massive failure in light of the promise.

    — Walker Bragman (@WalkerBragman) November 27, 2019

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    • Roland Woltman says:

      Yes but Obama did take away 25% of America’s Middle Classes wealth…
      And Obama added 10 trillion in debt we all now get to pay the debt service for… in perpetuity…
      And Obama increased the wealth of the 1% in America, by coincidentally 10 trillion dollars…
      so there’s all that!!!

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  20. spoogels says:

    New York Times columnist’s Republican brother pens column blasting 2020 Dems, praising Trump

    Liked by 1 person

  21. California Joe says:

    Why are President Trump’s own appointees like Gina Haspel and Mike Pompeo protecting his enemies who are blatantly trying to destroy him? Both Pompeo and Gina Haspel have access to everything at the CIA and State Department for three years!

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  22. Bulldog84 says:

    I had always assumed that other candidates were subjects of illegal unmasking. The only way to prevent future abuse is to publish all of the unmaskings.

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  23. islandpalmtrees says:

    I would like to add this item. These members of the current NSA leadership are corrupt. The following are the names shown in the leadership positions.


    Paul M. Nakasone
    General, U.S. Army; Commander, U.S. Cyber Command; Director, National Security Agency; Chief, Central Security Service

    George C. Barnes
    Deputy Director, National Security Agency

    Daniel J. MacDonnell
    Rear Admiral, U.S. Navy; Deputy Chief, Central Security Service

    Wendy Noble
    Executive Director, National Security Agency

    Earnest ‘Earnie’ Green
    Chief of Staff, National Security Agency

    Scott H. Stalker
    Master Gunnery Sergeant, USMC; Director’s Senior Enlisted Advisor, National Security Agency/Central Security Service

    Look for these names to be called out in the FISA Report. If not, then we have white-wash!

    Sundance Wrote:
    “We will know the FISA Report is a whitewash if Byrne and Butina are not addressed by disclosing whether Republican presidential candidates other than Trump were surveilled.”

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  24. Roland Woltman says:

    “…we are mindful to ascertain if there is any reason that we cannot share information fully as it relates to Russia.
    [Redacted Classified Section of Unknown length]

    What If the redacted section has to do with the Russian “asset” Brennan had been entrusted to be hand delivering the “asset’s” notes directly to Obama…

    And what would be the odds he may just be one of the sources used by Chris Steele?

    I put nothing past Brennan and the CIA. The minute he got away with operating inside the US, illegally, and it just so happened to be spying on the few in Congress that could give him oversight… and nothing happened to him (well besides DiFi’s harshly worded letter lol)… I think Brennan became ridiculously emboldened.

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  25. Sharpshorts says:

    Same script, different mouth piece. Who said it first?
    Of course it’s organized obstruction.

    Ms. Ruemmler’s letter on behalf of Ambassador Rice states:
    “Given the importance and sensitivity of the subject matter …”
    Sounds very much like FBI Director Comey’s later testimony to Congress
    which happened after President Trump’s inauguration but before Comey was fired
    The words are constructed to prevent anyone other than
    FORMER Obama administration personnel be allowed access
    to these so called “sensitive matters” .
    Seems these are matters so super-duper sensitive that no one
    in the world can be trusted to ever speak of them again.

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  26. Don L says:

    Setting all the legal/investigative realities aside for a moment, the fate of the nation really depends now (once the facts are laid out ) not upon how many believe or see the truth, but more so upon how many will care about the truth or the lies. The left has long won the battle by seducing sinners of every type, from the proud elites, to the worst of the perverts. They boo God at their convention, so will they care that the left was corrupt, criminal and taking apart the country when it shelters their sins? That is the only question that matters for America.

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  27. Lawton says:

    I highly doubt Horowitz even addresses those 702 searches in his report.

    Liked by 1 person

  28. GW says:

    So if it is indeed a whitewash, then what do we do about it ???

    Liked by 1 person

  29. BigTalkers says:

    I would concur, with the caveat there may be further related disclosures resulting from US Atty Durham’s investigations.


  30. Bill says:

    Words, words, words, words, words… And just whom will hold them all accountable????? We still have the SAME Department of Justice……

    Liked by 1 person

  31. Ned Zeppelin says:

    The ultimate defense: Obama ordered us to do all of these things. Nuremberg. The question then becomes how broad is the President’s authority to define a threat to national security. If he has the authority to declassify everything, does that not imply a boundless authority to define threats, even if wrong or unreasonably premised, for which the ultimate penalty is only voting him out or impeachment. The fly in the ointment is that the President does mot have the authority to authorize illegal acts. Thus the pretext for spying, while unreasonable, becomes vaild, as are all legal activities in support thereof, and only the little guys who actually engaged in illegal conduct fall prey. Welcome to the Political Event Horizon. Just food for thought, not a heartfelt conviction.


  32. rjones99 says:

    SD, Keep re-posting this article until we get an answer. I don’t see anyone but you making this point.

    Liked by 1 person

  33. platoriusnepos says:

    Roberts appeared to be compromised in the Obamacare decision. If he has been compromised and his “appointments” to the FISA court are found to be as well, then this Durham investigation could, possibly bring down a CJ; incredible, head spinning stuff. Lot of ‘ ifs ‘ but I have felt more recently that Roberts would not serve out a longer term; just my gut.


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