It would appear U.S. Attorney John Durham digging into the origin of the ‘vast Russian collusion-conspiracy’ has the founders of Fusion-GPS getting twitchy. The “Mamet Principle”of pretending not to know things was on full display today during a Meet the Press interview with Fusion founders Glenn Simpson and Peter Fritsch.
For obvious reasons fellow traveler Chuck Todd avoided the most damning lines of questioning including why they hired Nellie Ohr, why Simpson lied to the House intelligence committee, and why Glenn Simpson invoked the fifth amendment in refusing to testify to the House Judiciary Committee.
It was demonstrably evident that Glenn Simpson was working with Russian operative/lobbyist Natalia Velelnitskaya in a 2016 effort against the Trump campaign. However, during the interview today Glenn Simpson takes the defensive position that he was likely tricked by the Russian. WATCH:
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While Fusion-GPS founder Glenn Simpson was domestically working with Russian lobbyist Natalia Veselnitskya. A little reported Russian Deputy Attorney General named Saak Albertovich Karapetyan was working double-agents for the CIA and Kremlin.
Karapetyan was directing the foreign operations of Natalia Veselnitskaya, and Glenn Simpson was assisting her inside the U.S. Glenn Simpson managed Veselnitskaya through the 2016 Trump Tower meeting with Donald Trump Jr. However, once the CIA/Fusion-GPS operation using Veselnitskaya started to unravel with public reporting… back in Russia Deputy AG Karapetyan died in a mysterious helicopter crash.
Additionally back in 2018 Simpson claimed in testimony to the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence that he did not have contact with any FBI or DOJ officials regarding the infamous Steele dossier until after the 2016 election. But Bruce Ohr’s emails show that he and Simpson were in contact as early as August 2016.
On Page four of the HPSCI memo (pdf here) under point #3 we see the relationship between Fusion-GPS and the FBI as outlined in contacts between Bruce Ohr (DOJ), Nellie Ohr (Fusion GPS), Chris Steele (Dossier Author) and the FBI:
3) Before and after Steele was terminated as a source, he maintained contact with DOJ via then-Associate Deputy Attorney General Bruce Ohr, a senior DOl official who worked closely with Deputy Attorneys General Yates and later Rosenstein.
Shortly after the election, the FBI began interviewing Ohr, documenting his communications with Steele. For example, in September 2016, Steele admitted to Ohr his feelings against then-candidate Trump when Steele said he “was desperate that Donald Trump not get elected and was passionate about him not being president.” This clear evidence of Steele’s bias was recorded by Ohr at the time and subsequently in official FBI files-but not reflected in any of the Page FISA applications.
a) During this same time period, Ohr’s wife was employed by Fusion GPS to assist in the cultivation of opposition research on Trump. Ohr later provided the FBI with all of his wife’s opposition research, paid for by the DNC and Clinton campaign via Fusion GPS. The Ohrs’ relationship with Steele and Fusion GPS was inexplicably concealed from the FISC. (link to pdf)
- Glenn Simpson is in contact with Bruce Ohr on August 22nd, 2016
- Christopher Steele is meeting with Bruce Ohr in September 2016.
- The FISA Application was October 21st, 2016.
- Nellie Ohr passed on research to her husband Bruce, who passed on to the FBI.
Now take a look at the testimony of Fusion GPS head Glenn Simpson about contact between Fusion GPS and the FBI.
Question:
You’ve never heard from anyone in the U.S. government in relation to these matters, either the FBI or the Department of Justice?
Simpson Answer (under oath):
After the election. I mean during the election, no.
That’s a direct lie to congress. Hence Mr. Simpson took the fifth amendment position against self incrimination and refused further testimony to the House Judiciary Committee.
I feel like the media is insane and has blood on its hands.
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Evidence and a lot of it, would suggest that the Media works for and is paid by the CIA. So, this insanely gets a pay check.
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Blood on their hands to be sure, but I view them as OBEDIENT. The media corporate HQ are globalists, they don’t want an America first agenda from any president. They use their platforms (each and every one regulated by the fed gvt) against the America first message.
The front end talking heads simply do what they’re told. They are unconcerned about truth, fairness and journalistic standards. They are morally useless and as unethical as a human can possibly be.
They are, as has often and accurately stated, the ENEMY of the citizens. They must be dealt with and corrected otherwise we will remain polarized for generations. I despise the fact that they were given license to broadcast in this country.
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Would anyone out there buy a used car from either of those two?
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I hung in there as long as Icould, without vomiting, which wasn’t long.
Just say this is ONE of the defences of the coupists, if the “justification defence” Sundance has written about, fails. “It wasn’t CRIMINAL, we were fooled by the Russians!”
Which is why, the allegation that the Russians “hacked” DNC servers, and ‘leaked’ emails from that hack, to Wikileaks MUST be conclusively disproven.
To negate this defence, and it also seriously damages the “Justification” defence.
But, let it all play out, with each defence presented and rebutted, in turn. Eventually wewill get to fingerpointing, each blaming the other, and they will look like a bunch of five year olds, caught with an empty cookie jar, and crumbs on their face.
Martians (Russians) did it! The COOKIE MONSTER did it. Mikey MADE me do it, its HIS fault!
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“The serpent beguiled me and I did eat……” That excuse didn’t work in the Garden of Eden, and the “Russians tricked me” excuse won’t work with us now.
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Simpson said Dr. Hill was a Russian expert not a “dis”information expert. What is that? Was Simpson a DISINFORMATION expert? Weird.
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didnt cha know? steele was a disinformation expert. i think thats when you are an expert at assessing the reliability of information—acquired through years of publishing fraudulent information yourself
lets remember the state dept purchased 100’s of reports from Steele over the years…betcha they are full of disinformation
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“That malfunctioning little twerp. This is all his fault! He tricked me into going this way, but he’ll do no better.”
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Glenn Simpson is so disingenuous it’s not even funny; he needs to be looking through bars ASAP. Even so, his past is going to catch up with him real soon.
Proverbs 17:4
An evildoer listens to wicked lips;
A liar pays attention to a destructive tongue.
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Simpson rakes in millions by lying. The more he lies the more business he gets.
He was paid to lie about candidate Trump.
I disagree. He is genuine. He will lie tomorrow. John 8:44.
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Oh, boy. The Dems are cruising toward a world of hurt.
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Beef,
As all who perch here know, I have been demanding Justice do its job since November of ’17.
Permanent Staters need to face justice and the whip of punishment, which includes Fusion operators.
These scum need to be put in fear for their lives. Were Simpson drowning in a pond I would throw him a rope. Once I got him up on the bank, I’d put my right number 12 into his crotch, then my left……just to show him I’m ambidextrous.
No mercy for traitorous scum and their friends. This crowd will never repent or act contrite. No need to show them anything but a vicious end, after what they pulled.
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Actually, Phil Collins has been in my head, for weeks;
“IF I saw that you were drowning, I would NOT lend a hand!”
Throw a rope around their NECK, yes as I am partial to a good hanging.
But drowning is just as good, as its the result that counts.
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They are having to explain too much now. I feel like the tide is slowly turning. People are getting smarter about all of it too.
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So Ms Veselnitkaya tricked Loretta Lynch into personally giving her several extraordinary parole visas, tricked Simpson into meeting with her both before and after the Trump Tower Meeting and tricked Democrats into letting her testify before Congress with Obama officials?
Sure, pal.
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Gipper lives;
WOW, if she’s THAT good at conning people, she should run for Congress!/S
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Gipper lives;
WOW, if she’s THAT good at conning people, she should run for Congress!/S
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And Nellie was tricked by Ukrainian disinformation regarding the black ledger, as she passed it to Bruce and others, in a May 30, 2016 email?
https://www.theepochtimes.com/ties-to-ukrainian-national-a-unifying-theme-in-early-attacks-on-trump_2872609.html
(Article will not cut and paste.) The article that Nellie forwarded reported that the documentation related to the black ledger had found its way to NABU….
… And likely the FBI team on the ground in Ukraine assisting NABU with their new server. Nellie’s article predated the execution of the FBI’s MOU with NABU, signed in June 2016…
https://nabu.gov.ua/en/novyny/fbi-has-provided-nabu-equipment-digitizing-paper-documents
https://nabu.gov.ua/en/novyny/nabu-has-signed-memorandum-understanding-fbi
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Sorry.
Nellie passed the disinformation (article that reports the existence of the ledger) to Bruce and others, not the black ledger itself.
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The linked Epoch times article reports that Nellie testified that the tip regarding a Ukrainian source was given to her by Fusion GPS.
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Another clarification.
My commentary, not from the Epoch Times report:
“… And likely the FBI team on the ground in Ukraine assisting NABU with their new server. Nellie’s article predated the execution of the FBI’s MOU with NABU, signed in June 2016…”
My apologies for any confusion.
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That is just disgusting!!
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Yeah, I’d like to hear a well-prepared Elise Stefanik cross-examine these guys.
What I resent is that, after 3 years of the Trump Administration, during the first two of which the Republicans controlled both houses of Congress, most of the Ukrainians and Russian actors in these high jinks remain un-deposed by any committed on Capital Hill, Simpson took the Fifth in his testimony, and then what? Nothing. So now we “take heart” because Meet the Press is giving them time to shape their narrative, inferring that the Deep State knows more than the public about what the administration is doing.
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Thank Paul Ryan and the Gobbler for that.
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Every time I see that bastard Simpson, whether on video or still photo, his eyes are darting back and forth or looking sideways. He’s the sneakiest, shiftiest, dishonest POS I have ever seen. And notice how up Chuck Todd knows who to have on and when. They know exactly what each of these criminals have done or they wouldn’t know who to bring on the show. You really have to be a moron not to figure this out. The media should be charged criminally too. It’s sick.
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P.S. – I’m fuming!
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Liar, Liar, Pants on Fire.
OK simple: mostly likely scenario is that Simpson misled Miss. V. and not the other way around.
The other way around would be odd because she has no motive, it does not help her clients.
But when Simpson uses her in this way, it does help *his* clients and she’s an easy mark, as she’s desperate to be able to talk to both parties to lobby for withdrawal or lessening of sanctions.
So unless she does not really represent Prevezon (but we know she does), she doesn’t have a motive to trick Simpson & Trump.
In fact, it would be dangerous for her to try, because even when Trump loses, if she helped him to lose, the GOP may not like her for it and refuse to help her in any way.
Ergo: it was a Simpson setup. But then you already knew that 🙂
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She has stated that she thinks Fusion was recommended to her in order to set the whole situation in motion about the Trump Tower meeting. Bill Browder had her under surveillance and shared an email including a photo of her house the day before she traveled to the US. This is all about the Magnitsky fraud . Manafort took notes, he understood.
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I stopped watching this mess when they said that Republicans paid them to start with and neglected to say that Hillary’s campaign hired them. Yes, Republicans hired them to look into a candidate which was not Donald Trump and when nothing was found, they dropped the firm and that’s when Hillary’s campaign hired them. It was nothing in the world but them trying to do damage control and that’s not possible.
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I never knew we were such a literate country. It’s so interesting that our biggest criminals also write books about their crimes and get rich off of them. I guess that’s American exceptionalism.
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Payments for treasonous actions are being laundered through “book deals” these days, and probably always were…
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A few weeks back it was shown that the who Russia-Russia hoax started with a “story” dug out of the Archives of CNN. So, yes the media has blood, muck and every order of slime on their hands.
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I wonder how many people out there are aware that enemedia was born in the early 1900s?
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Hey Glenn, if you want us to believe your protestations of innocence you need to explain how the Russia hoax was based on the “movie script” you wrote years earlier. Did Veselnitskaya steal it out of your archives? Why did you meet with her before and after the Trump Tower meeting; trying to get it back? You seem to have a bit of legal liability here; too bad! You seem like such an obsequious jerk; I hope you get a chance to spend some quality time in the gray bar motel. Maybe Mary can get an adjoining cell! That would be some REAL justice!
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And the $10-14Million as well. Always follow the money.
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Hey Glenn and Peter, who gave you the tip about the Ukrainian source that you passed to Nellie Ohr, as Nellie stated in her testimony?
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Back in 2017 Reuters had an article which said that the information that Veselnitskaya offered at the meeting was based on research done by Fusion GPS in 2014. Oh, and Simpson testified to the Senate he didn’t know about the Veselnitskaya Trump Tower meeting until reading about it in the press.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-fusion/trump-clinton-camps-both-offered-slice-of-dossier-firms-work-sources-idUSKBN1D937W
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Sort of a “Well, our work was legitimate because the ‘Republicans’ started it.” Completely conflate and misrepresent those beginnings in order to deflect from their agenda. [The org was Washington Free Beacon and the individual was the owner, so connected, not two different entities + they were looking into not just Trump, but also other Republican candidates.] That entity dropped the association with Simpson/Fusion GPS BEFORE the Steele dossier came to our attention. Democrats continue to falsely state or imply that the “Republicans” were involved with the Steele dossier. Grrrrr ….
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How come nothing gets fixed when we known about this, back even further than that helicopter crash, for THREE years?
I’m no genius but this whole mess has been obvious from the very get go. Every branch & designated authority able to prevent, stop, and fix these messes failed us.
WHY not chose the right thing to do?
WHY do we have all these lying WEAK people in every post of government?
American people are not craven weak cowards, but we sure are led by such!
I no longer believe our government is legitimate .
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Ann, I believe we need to look at complicity much more than cowardice in order to understand why the right things aren’t chosen to be done.
I haven’t believe we have a legitimate government since I was a voracious reader of a teenager. What our government was described to be in the Constitution, Bill of Rights and Federalist Papers were definitely not what it looked like to me looking from the outside…
The feral reserve act of 1913 was the death of our nation imo. Handing over our economy to banksters? Sick. Sold to us as the only thing that could ensure a stable economy? Give me a break.
It could ONLY get this ugly and truly filthy (SWAMP) by ignoring our Governing Documents at every chance possible and allowing the most dishonest of people to fill the seats of “representation”.
I never wondered why President Donald J. Trump is spending his golden years as President. He’s been telling us for decades!
We have to follow his lead too, imo, and begin both learning to be better stewards of our national system as well as begin taking rightful offices on any and every level possible to ensure he is wholly successful and we can maintain his successes for future generations.
Again, just my opinion…
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Human,
You see much more deeply than I.
Must read more American history instead of western, etc.
Monetary markets, federal reserve , World Bank: shamefully, the info just doesn’t sink in properly, although my family understands it.
Woodrow Wilson, FDR, McKinley I’m becoming aware of the long term consequences of their acts.
Appreciate your reply. I was shocked to say out loud that I no longer view my government as legitimate.
Guess I’m not alone. :).
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That’s who they want in government. They do what they are told. Your description of “weak” works well.
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Stone lies and gets 40 potentiality!
These guys lie and get 15 minutes on meet the presstitute?
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Obviously lying. But..let’s delve into the reasons he has been instructed to lie. I think it is a great sign. Lies are hard to keep straight. This will come back to haunt them…it is critical to their house of cards.
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GPS Co-founder “…the most important documents in political history”
or as Tapper tried to spin ’em : “memos, if you will”… Guess they’ll have to be updated.
The Simpson SUPER spooks were out-spooked by Russian and British spooks…seems they themselves are now spooked…
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Whatsamatter Simpson?
Now that you are looking at years in prison, suddenly your big boy pants are full of something?
Enjoy eternity in prison, fool!
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Havent watched the video yet, but my first take is that this is a good sign that Simpson is even out doing interviews. Is this not the first time he’s spoken publicly? Hes been like a ghost as far as I know. I mean, NBC Shuck Todd? Really? Simpson is desperate to shape the conversation. Probably being forced to do this. You have to figure that their plan was for all this to die a long, long time ago. This cant be going according to plan if Glenn Simpson is out doing interviews now.
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EVERY-TIME, I READ THIS – I KEEP WONDERING IF THE FSB AND THE CIA WERE WORKING TOGETHER, BECAUSE CLEARLY BOTH SIDES KNEW THAT KARAPETYAN WAS DOUBLE AGENT.
Did Karapetyan died because he knew and could prove it?
Sundance writes:
“While Fusion-GPS founder Glenn Simpson was domestically working with Russian lobbyist Natalia Veselnitskya. A little reported Russian Deputy Attorney General named Saak Albertovich Karapetyan was working double-agents for the CIA and Kremlin.
Karapetyan was directing the foreign operations of Natalia Veselnitskaya, and Glenn Simpson was assisting her inside the U.S. Glenn Simpson managed Veselnitskaya through the 2016 Trump Tower meeting with Donald Trump Jr. However, once the CIA/Fusion-GPS operation using Veselnitskaya started to unravel with public reporting… back in Russia Deputy AG Karapetyan died in a mysterious helicopter crash.”
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IMHO Simpson may have some espionage issues in his future.
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The Devil made me do it. The Devillllllll!
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The first 7 or so pages of the Steele Dossier are the most telling in and of itself. Its use of English grammar is tell-tale late-middle aged, primarily Eastern European educated (most likely female) learning English secondarily thereafter. Little chance any born and raised Brit, ie. Chris Steele, would, much less could, write grammar in that manner. Nor do any of those pages have, even remotely, any ‘ring’ to something written by a homegrown, US born and educated person.
Dan Bongino has sourced a prior Simpson story presenting a very similar storyline used in the Dossier. Simpson’s need to have a ‘foreign’ product also, by way of Occam’s razor, points to the selection of Nellie Ohr, one with direct access to the DOJ, to fabricate, “in house”,the Steele Dossier.
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Someone’s lying…or they all are
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They are flogging a book, but these guy are fools to answer questions on video. Simpson is cagier than Peter Fritcsh, who just thinks he’s smart.
Weasel Chuck Todd actually asked them if they still believed the major “dossier’ accusations against Trump. Fritsch completely DODGED the question, bolting off into nonsense about how Christopher Steele was one of the world’s leading experts on Russia. Todd of course allowed this gambit (and lie – Steele is a former Russia hand now out of the loop) without a whimper. So I guess, they don’t want to admit that they know (and knew) it was all false.
BIG BEAN SPILL BY FRTISCH: He is confidant they weren’t “played” by the Russians, because Steele, that paragon of knowledge about Russia, counterintel and disinformation, “spent a lot of time going through the dossier to sort out information from disinformation.” Uh oh, that means that rather than writing up the “Steele Dossier” based on his double-nought spycraft — Steele’s job per Fritsch was fact-checking material that already existed. If Todd had a grain of sense/integrity he would have immediately asked who wrote the material Steele checked. (Yes, we all now Steele was just a salesman, but that is not the Party line).
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Sickening to see Glenn Simpson and Peter Fritsch repeatedly speak of how great a Russia expert Christopher Steele was after the contents of the opposition research pissgate dossier contained so many lies and proven wrong allegations, salacious things such as Russian prostitutes pissing on a bed Obama slept on for Trump being recorded on camera in a Moscow hotel? Steele was just the delivery boy in an attempt to legitimize credibility when marketing the fiction dossier to the press and the FBI for FISA warrants [Steele hired by Fusion in June 2016, much of dossier likely already compiled via DNC money while Perkins Coie doing spin on DNC server hack via Crowdstrike. September 2015 was when Free Beacon started the project. Just within weeks of Steele joining the Fusion GPS team, the dossier info goes to FBI and have FISA warrants and spying on Trump campaign, too fast a timeline, joke.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2018/politics/steele-timeline/ https://forerunnersofamerica.com/article/steele-dossier-timeline-just-the-facts/
Also interesting that July 6, 2016, Steele went to Rome to give his report to a FBI team lead by agent Michael Gaeta, and I wonder if Gaeta’s coworker Joseph Mifsud was at the meeting, and note Mifsud seeded Papadopoulos the Clinton email have info much prior on March 14, 2016. This (excuse to get FISA warrants) was way in the works before Steele joined the team.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/interview-with-fbis-gaeta-core-to-russiagate-among-53-transcripts-slated-for-release_2674522.html
https://www.theepochtimes.com/how-a-little-known-fbi-unit-helped-to-disseminate-the-steele-dossier_2638330.html ] .
And the money trail too. Fusion GPS was paid mega bucks from the DNC, also the Democracy Integrity Project [DIP] paid “more than $3.3 million – roughly two thirds of its expenses for the entire year – to Fusion GPS.”
https://www.influencewatch.org/non-profit/democracy-integrity-project/
DIP run by Daniel J. Jones, formerly from Senator Dianne Feinstein’s office, plus $1 million of $7 DIP funding came from Soros. Jones also worked a year for the Center for American Progress and John Podesta. Everything is Newspeak.
Glenn Simpson and Peter Fritsch were simply hired by anti-Trump political operatives to get out last minute made-up opposition “research” to liable Trump plus FISA warrants. Talking points trying to tout Steele as one of the best Russia espionage experts and legitimate, give me a break, they are just repeating the original byline used to sell or market their BS.
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Let us hope he gets the Mueller treatment. He has already perjured himself so he now needs to be bankrupted before he is arrested Roger Stone style.
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“A liberal watchdog group’s attempt to nail Rudy Giuliani has backfired in spectacular fashion after their FOIA request resulted in the US State Department releasing detailed accusations of corruption against the Bidens – based on interviews with former Ukrainian officials who were in charge of the investigations.”
It lists payments to Archer and Hunter Biden.
It says the US Ambassador controls two Ukrainian government investigative agencies:
“Specialized Anticorruption Prosecutor’s Office (SAP) which has under its purview National Anticorruption Bureau Ukraine (NABU)”
“Mr. Lutsenko went on to explain that there is a unit called Specialized Anticorruption Prosecutor’s Office (SAP) which has under its purview National Anticorruption Bureau Ukraine (NABU) which investigates corruption cases that involved public figures from Mayors upward. He stated that the current US Ambassador protects SAP and NABU,” adding “His office has absolutely no control over SAP or NABU and can’t even ask what they are working on however they fall under his “control.”
Lots more at:
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/state-department-releases-detailed-accounts-biden-ukraine-corruption
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In other words: “It wasn’t me, it was stupid me”. All righty then. Sheesh!
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