New York Times Narrative Engineers Start Positioning DOJ/FBI "Small Group" Coup-Plotters as Victims of CIA and Intelligence Community Manipulation…

The background context has already been outlined –SEE HERE– so we won’t repeat.  Instead, we look at today’s defensive narrative engineering from the New York Times with a similar perspective, but a different set of reminders.
Content and distribution tells us this information is from the DOJ and FBI faction of the “Small Group“.  Not accidentally, and VERY importantly, this is the same faction under the microscope of Inspector General Michael Horowitz and his pending IG report.  Additionally, and again very importantly, the principles within the IG report have already had an opportunity to review the part of the upcoming report that highlights their conduct.

So this New York Times reporting, from conversations with the DOJ and FBI small group participants, is coming out in advance of the IG report and with their review in mind.
Here’s the article, emphasis mine:

WASHINGTON — Federal prosecutors reviewing the origins of the Russia investigation have asked witnesses pointed questions about any anti-Trump bias among former F.B.I. officials who are frequent targets of President Trump and about the earliest steps they took in the Russia inquiry, according to former officials and other people familiar with the review.

[Note “prosecutors” is plural; more than one.  “prosecutors” also implies a shift from investigative review, to a likelihood of criminal conduct.  The media presentation of John Durham has gone from a single U.S. Attorney with a mandate from his boss, to a group of people, ‘prosecutors’, working with the U.S. Attorney.]

The prosecutors, led by John H. Durham, the United States attorney in Connecticut, have interviewed about two dozen former and current F.B.I. officials, the people said. Two former senior F.B.I. agents are assisting with the review, the people said.

[Two dozen former and current FBI officials questioned, but none of the individual within the small group have been questioned yet.  In addition to the prosecutors, Durham also has two FBI agents assisting.  Later in the article we discover a strong likelihood that one of those FBI agents is the leak source for the New York Times.]

The number of interviews shows that Mr. Durham’s review is further along than previously known. It has served as a political flash point since Attorney General William P. Barr revealed in the spring that he planned to scrutinize the beginnings of the Russia investigation, which Mr. Trump and his allies have attacked without evidence as a plot by law enforcement and intelligence officials to prevent him from winning the 2016 election.

[…] Mr. Durham has yet to interview all the F.B.I. officials who played key roles in opening the Russian investigation in the summer of 2016, the people familiar with the review said. He has not spoken with Peter Strzok, a former top counterintelligence official who opened the inquiry; the former director James B. Comey or his deputy, Andrew G. McCabe; or James A. Baker, then the bureau’s general counsel.

[So Mr. Durham has not questioned the “small group” participants. Ultimately this appears to be the reason for the nervousness now originating a defensive posture.]

Those omissions suggest Mr. Durham may be waiting until he has gathered all the facts before he asks to question the main decision makers in the Russia inquiry.

[Or it could be that those “main decision makers” are targets of the investigation.]

The president granted Mr. Barr sweeping powers for the review, though he did not open it as a criminal investigation. That means he gave Mr. Durham the power only to read materials the government had already gathered and to request voluntary interviews from witnesses, not to subpoena witnesses or documents. It is not clear whether the status of the review has changed.

[Why would Mr. Barr need to “subpoena” pre-existing documents he has been granted full presidential authority to review?  Methinks the New York Times engineer is conflating the power of a special counsel (prior investigation) with the power of a U.S. Attorney General who was granted full access to any/all classified information by an executive order from the President of the United States.]

Mr. Durham’s investigators appeared focused at one point on Mr. Strzok, said one former official who was interviewed. Mr. Strzok opened the Russia inquiry in late July 2016 after receiving information from the Australian government that the Russians had offered damaging information on Hillary Clinton to a Trump campaign adviser. Mr. Durham’s team has asked about the events surrounding the Australian tip, some of the people familiar with the review said.

Mr. Durham’s team, including Nora R. Dannehy, a veteran prosecutor, has questioned witnesses about why Mr. Strzok both drafted and signed the paperwork opening the investigation, suggesting that was unusual for one person to take both steps. Mr. Strzok began the inquiry after consulting with F.B.I. leadership, former officials familiar with the episode said.

[“why” did FBI leadership allow Strzok to create, draft and open the investigation?  LOL, that’s actually a big tell.  Apparently Comey and McCabe were smart enough to keep their signatures off a political investigation.  It’s called plausible deniability.  Same purpose for James Comey keeping copious notes (diary) in his home safe.

Mr. Durham has also questioned why Mr. Strzok opened the case on a weekend, again suggesting that the step might have been out of the ordinary. Former officials said that Mr. McCabe had directed Mr. Strzok to travel immediately to London to interview the two Australian diplomats who had learned about the Russians’ offer to help the Trump campaign and that he was trying to ensure he took the necessary administrative steps first.

[“Two” = Alexander Downer and Erika Thompson.   May 10, 2016, Papadopoulos meets Ambassador Downer at the Kensington Wine Rooms in London, England. MEDIA CLAIM: “Downer met with George Papadopoulos, where Papadopoulos — having been introduced through two intermediaries, Christian Cantor and Erika Thompson — mentioned that Russians had material on Hillary Clinton.”  Both Papadopoulos and Downer refute their May 10th meeting discussed Clinton emails.  Papadopoulos notes that Ambassador Downer is recording their conversation.  {Go Deep}]

It is not clear how many people Mr. Durham’s team has interviewed outside of the F.B.I. His investigators have questioned officials in the Office of the Director of National Intelligence but apparently have yet to interview C.I.A. personnel, people familiar with the review said.

[So the leakers “people familiar” to the NYT are limited to knowledge inside the DOJ and FBI operational entities; just as we suspected.

[…]  Many of the questions from Mr. Durham’s team overlapped with ones that the Justice Department inspector general, Michael E. Horowitz, has posed in his own look into aspects of the Russia inquiry, according to the people.
Mr. Horowitz’s report, which is most likely to be made public in the coming weeks, is expected to criticize law enforcement officials’ actions in the Russia investigation. Mr. Horowitz’s findings could provide insights into why Mr. Barr thought that the Russia investigation needed to be examined.

[Well, there’s the motive for the current narrative engineering.  Horowitz’s report is coming out; small group participants will be criticized; and the justification for Barr and Durham to look at their behavior will be bolstered by IG Horowitz.]

In his review, Mr. Durham has asked witnesses about the role of Christopher Steele, a former intelligence official from Britain who was hired to research Mr. Trump’s ties to Russia by a firm that was in turn financed by Democrats. Law enforcement officials used some of the information Mr. Steele compiled into a now-infamous dossier to obtain a secret wiretap on a Trump campaign adviser, Carter Page, whom they suspected was an agent of Russia.

[Interesting the NYT doesn’t write that Mr. Durham has interviewed Christopher Steele about his work on the dossier and his contact with the small group (he has).  One would think that would be an important notation in a paragraph about Mr. Steele, no?]

[…] Mr. Durham’s investigators asked why F.B.I. officials would use unsubstantiated or incorrect information in their application for a court order allowing the wiretap and seemed skeptical about why agents relied on Mr. Steele’s dossier.

The inspector general has also raised concerns that the F.B.I. inflated Mr. Steele’s value as an informant in order to obtain the wiretap on Mr. Page. Mr. Durham’s investigators have done the same, according to the people familiar with his review.

[Well, well, well, I answered my own question.  The NYT doesn’t want readers to know John Durham interviewed Steele, because the NYT is admitting the Steele information was “unsubstantiated”, “incorrect”, and the FBI “inflated” Mr. Steele to gain a political weapon.  Hmmm… methinks those exact words will be in the IG report; I digress.]

Mr. Horowitz has asked witnesses about an assessment of Mr. Steele that MI6, the British spy agency, provided to the F.B.I. after bureau officials received his dossier on Mr. Trump in September 2016. MI6 officials said Mr. Steele, a Russia expert, was honest and persistent but sometimes showed questionable judgment in pursuing targets that others viewed as a waste of time, two people familiar with the assessment said.

[That preceeding paragraph is just loaded with juicy stuff.  The NYT is sharing that MI6 told the FBI Steele was a sketchy fellow.  The NYT is positioning the dossier to the FBI in September 2016, but we know the dossier material was in Brennan’s briefing to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid in August 2016…. So the NYT is positioning the FBI as a victim of bad intel from the dossier that was initiated by John Brennan. Very interesting.  Additionally, “two people familiar with the MI6 assessment” is confluent with two people who have read the IG report which will outline the MI6 assessment.  See how that works?]

One former official said that in his interview with Mr. Durham’s team, he pushed back on the notion that law enforcement and intelligence officials had plotted to thwart Mr. Trump’s candidacy..

[…]  The former official said he was reassured by the presence of John C. Eckenrode, one of the former senior F.B.I. agents assisting Mr. Durham. Like Mr. Durham, who investigated C.I.A. torture of detainees overseas, Mr. Eckenrode is also familiar with high-stakes political inquiries.

He is probably best known for working with Patrick J. Fitzgerald, the former United States attorney who in 2003 was appointed to investigate the leak of the identity of an undercover C.I.A. officer, Valerie Plame, to a journalist.

“Jack is as straight a shooter as you can get in the F.B.I.,” Asha Rangappa, a former F.B.I. agent, said of Mr. Eckenrode, a friend. “It’s the first reassuring thing I’ve heard about this review.”  (Read Full Article)

Oh good grief.  Asha “Comey is my Homey” Rangappa, likes one of Durham’s FBI investigators…. who also worked with corruptocrat Patrick Fitzgerald, one of James Comey’s corrupt friends who is now Comey’s corrupt lawyer.
Given that some of these NYT leaks come from inside Durham’s team, it’s likely John Eckenrode is the source.

Asha “Comey is my Homey” Rangappa (seated)

The key takeaway from this NYT article is the beginning of the public defense narrative for the DOJ/FBI small group.  They are starting to position themselves as victims of false information delivered to them by the CIA and Intelligence Community.
Apparently, this is the big picture defense they will use when the IG report drops.

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355 Responses to New York Times Narrative Engineers Start Positioning DOJ/FBI "Small Group" Coup-Plotters as Victims of CIA and Intelligence Community Manipulation…

    • Bill Durham says:

      Quite brilliant of Barr Durham to use eckenrode for controlled leaks. Somebody the MSM and lawfare group trust. They run his story, he pits Comey v Brennan, Durham looks like an honest broker. How do they say this is political? Nope. Durham can now control the narrative. And he play the CIA vs FBI and nyt vs wapo. Let the finger pointing begin!

      • Chilidog says:

        That’s an awfully generous assessment of Durham’s use of Eckenrode. Isn’t it more likely that he is being used to reassure everyone that the power structure of the deep state is still intact.

        • Vikram Parmar says:

          Why not both views being correct?

          • Chilidog says:

            Because the deep state is incapable of holding itself accountable. Also, if the deep state is in the interview room and makes its presence known to the coconspirators, isn’t it likely that the DS will get the answers it’s looking for.

            • Bill Durham says:

              Or maybe Barr is dividing the deep state. Not all of them are on the same team. They have conflicts that can be exploited. Wray wants to protect the FBI 302s. Fisa and past convictions. If that means he needs to sacrifice Brennan, that’s exactly what he will do.

        • Bill Durham says:

          If that were the case, Barr and Durham would not be traveling the world chasing down leads and the plotters would not be throwing Brennan under the bus.

      • Crossed fingers … woke skepticism.

      • Tall Texan says:

        Hi Bill – I sure hope you are right!

      • DebbieSemms says:

        I’m not buying it.

        • Vikram Parmar says:

          I would suggest you re-assess. If Sundance (although he is very intelligent) can figure this out simply from reading a NYT article, Do you think Durham wouldn’t know that one of his guys would leak? There is a setup by Durham/Barr involved. I am not saying they will succeed….but they are controlling the flow of info the the NYT and WaPo….that’s for sure…and that can only be good news

      • CopperTop says:

        I’m going to give one nod to the reason to hope that it’s Column B (Durham using Ekinrode). Fitzgerald is 100% responsible for Blago being in jail (besides Blago! ha).
        President Trump is aware that the ultimate power P Fitzgerald exercised was as the leader of the deep state the minute Obama got elected. The interest at the time was in preserving the union because if P Fitzgerald kept going with his investigation the press was going to get a hold of conversations where Obama prior to inauguration committed several Federal crimes over Senate seat horse trading.
        I suspect Barr is now aware of this too. The deep state protected the first election of a black man to the WH. Cuz, well globalist interests and just plain afraid of the civil unrest.
        They have been honing their craft for a decade and figured they grew powerful enough to control future elections — Period.
        This is what has been playing out since Jan 19 2017.
        Why does Trump tweet potential commutations/pardons about Blago every so often?
        The fine folks at Trump Tower Chicago had a birds eye view of the IL politics the Deep State P Fitzgerald created from day one of 44’s election.

  1. ElTocaor says:

    [Picture of Zippo emitting a flame]
    It’s also highly likely that the swamp’s comms within the swamp itself have been compromised by Trump’s people and they are using the media to communicate with each other.

  2. Mo says:

    Nice work Sundance!

  3. The Boss says:

    Did I miss discussion about the two former senior FBI agents cooperating with Durham? Or should I stay tuned?

    • JustSomeInputFromAz says:

      Welp we have been tuned in for about three years so what the heck?

    • IGiveUp says:

      Maybe cooperating isn’t the right word. Perhaps they’ve been “inserted” into Durham’s investigation.

    • jeans2nd says:

      “Two former senior F.B.I. agents are assisting with the review, the people said.”
      Sixth paragraph from the top
      “the presence of John C. Eckenrode, one of the former senior F.B.I. agents assisting Mr. Durham.”
      Fifth paragraph from the bottom
      These two agents are discussed several times within the rest of the post

    • Gort says:

      My take on the “two former senior F.B.I. agents … assisting with the review” is that Durham and Barr don’t trust anyone currently working in the F,B,I.

  4. “They are starting to position themselves as victims of false information delivered to them by the CIA and Intelligence Community.” Victims usually invoke sympathy. There is no sympathy to be found for these folks.

    • Bocephus Rex says:

      Whelp–Clapper threw Obama under the bus before he knew that the small group is throwing HIM (and Brennan) under the bus, just imagine what stuff he might say? The guy is a total dullard-

  5. iconoclast says:

    “those “main decision makers” are targets of the investigation”
    One can only hope. Let’s get this show on the road already.

  6. Merkin Muffley says:

    “They are starting to position themselves as victims of false information delivered to them by the CIA and Intelligence Community”. Yes, but they were warned that that information was false and came from questionable sources, YET THEY USED IT ANYWAY!

  7. Great work Sundance……

  8. Bogeyfree says:

    The the FIB is throwing the CIA under the bus? If so what is the CIA’s response/defense.
    If the finger is pointing to the CIA, Sundance do you think that will help get us to the WH?

  9. hokkoda says:

    “They are starting to position themselves as victims of false information delivered to them by the CIA and Intelligence Community.“
    I can see why they might wish to do this, but it creates the classic “prisoner’s dilemma” because they don’t know with confidence what the Intel Community is telling Durham.
    It’s really their only defense option, but rarely does it work out that the people you decide to blame just sit back and say, “Well, yeah, it was all our fault.” The usual response is, “No, they weren’t victims, they were in on it from the start, and here’s proof.”
    Usually that’s how the conspiracies fall apart…everyone trying to save their own necks suddenly “remember” things.

    • All Too Much says:

      Considering what the small group knows, blaming the CIA might be the only argument they all agree on. Otherwise, they point fingers at each other,

    • Blind no Longer says:

      Maybe the leaks to the NY Times is a way to get the message out to the coup comrades, what each group is telling the investigators. When you don’t have a Chi-fi Di drinking cold medicine to do it for you!

      • hokkoda says:

        I would bet on this

      • Abolition Man says:

        Forgive me for asking questions, but isn’t that Chi Spy Di Fi!?

      • Rhoda R says:

        Why would they have to go to such baroque lengths – DC isn’t all that big and there are lots of bars and the like where two or more people can sit quietly out of the way for brief conversations before moving on. I don’t for one moment believe 1) that any of these people have 24/7 tails and 2) that they couldn’t lose a tail even if there was one.

        • hokkoda says:

          Because: they don’t like each other. Because: the same reason they leak to different papers.
          The institutions are more important than any one individual.
          And I would bet my next paycheck that Brennan/Clapper really did set the FBI up. Easy to set up people who want to believe something is true.

  10. Steve in MT says:

    The game is afoot. I’m guessing that means the IG Report will be released next week. And I would also bet that indictments will come starting December or January. Right now, there are a whole lot of attorneys whose phones are ringing off the hook demanding that they be allowed to provide information in exchange for immunity.
    Delicious!

    • justlizzyp says:

      Interesting to note that they are being given the opportunity to seek and be represented by counsel as opposed to Schiff’s and McCabe’s targets who seem to be told with disturbing regularity that they don’t need counsel.

      • Bruno says:

        I hope I’m remembering this right — someone correct me if I’m wrong — but aren’t the 13 (or 18) “angry democrats” who were among the best lawyers on that side doing the Mueller investigation prohibited from serving as defense lawyers for this cast of characters?

  11. oldersoul says:

    That’s why victims always have ‘Insurance Policies’.

  12. incredibly disturbing how much info the NYT has about the investigation. Durham can’t even stop leaks on his own team.

    • Bill Durham says:

      It’s a controlled leak. Now Durham is breaking up the Comey Brennan partners. They are fighting over life rafts. That’s when people start cutting deals

      • cassander1 says:

        Let’s hope.

        • Vikram Parmar says:

          Although we have been burned…Bill Durham’s explanation is the only logical one. I am not saying we will succeed…but Barr/Durham are separating the FBI/CIA from each other making them tell on each other…Let’s see where this goes.

      • oldumb1 says:

        We know it is a controlled leak? Or are you positing that as if it was fact?

      • oldumb1 says:

        You don’t know that right? The way you worded it was as if it was factual, instead of your opinion. We “think” it is a controlled leak.

    • Let’s consider the leakers would likely include ALL CORRUPTICON members of EVERY agency who were interviewed, regardless of guilt, and their SHARED Lawfare Co-Conspirators.

  13. jengancworld says:

    I wouldn’t read the New York times if you clockwork Oranged my eyes. However if they are admitting that something’s going on here… at least that’s a start!

  14. Genie says:

    I got a feeling somebody in the group said this two years ago, “Brennan is such an unlikeable fellow, let’s pin it all on him if it goes in the ditch.”

    • hokkoda says:

      And Brennan plans to lay it all at that dope Comey’s feet….

    • justlizzyp says:

      I hope so. He is exactly that unlikeable. And he’s already been hinting that he’s going to try to pin it on the foreigners by saying ‘maybe I relied on bad information….’

      • Rhoda R says:

        But that will flop as it’s found that the ‘bad information’ was provided by foreigners AT THE REQUEST OF THE CIA.

        • justlizzyp says:

          I always picture a jury in DC to be like when I was a teenager and lying to my parents about where I was the night before. ANY excuse, no matter how obviously a lie, was good enough for them to drop the subject because they didn’t really want to know. If they ‘knew’ knew what was going on they’d have had to act much sooner than they did to get me into treatment.
          It only takes one hold out to ‘hang’ the jury. So the case against the big league players will have to be airtight, overwhelming and irrefutable. The prosecutor will need to explain that the entire operation was a) to protect their illegal spying on US citizens and b) them using the Democrats and Democrat voters as useful idiots. That will be key – to show the utter contempt these people feel for the American people of all ideologies.

  15. IGiveUp says:

    “The FIB is throwing the CIA under the bus? If so what is the CIA’s response/defense.”
    Typically they eliminate their opposition.

    • justlizzyp says:

      In the immortal words of WIlly Wonka – The suspense is killing me. I hope it lasts! At least long enough for me to get past my next deadline and have the time to really enjoy it.

  16. justlizzyp says:

    I suspect the Post will have a piece tomorrow walking the thin line between agreeing with some of the points in the NYT while also conveying the CIA’s messages of ‘screw you you’re not gonna pin this on us, pencil necks!’ In other words, it’s gonna be LIT!

  17. I had just commented a few days ago that Durham was running a tight ship as there had been no leaks. As soon as he hires anyone from the FBI there are leaks. Hope he learns from this.
    Thanks SD for this great dissection/analysis.

    • Margaret Berger says:

      These people were so arrogant, they spoke frankly to one another because “she” was going to win. “Insurance policy”, “First we F Flynn and then we F Trump”. You know there are more statements like that that we have not heard. They were breaking laws back to 2014 it became a habit, a sloppy habit at that. They were used to going after people and destroying them. Their success went to their heads. It was nothing to add the President that should not have been to their hit list. Bet those blackberries have some juicy parts to them.

  18. Concernedcitizen says:

    The circular firing squad is forming. When the first shots are fired, the conspirators will be looking for cover in the form of immunity and plea agreements. The Barr/Durham investigation is in a good place, and there’s a glimmer of hope that justice will be done.

  19. IGiveUp says:

    Probably the first article ever written by NYT that doesn’t blame Trump. Their readers must be very confused.

    • rayvandune says:

      Their readers are used to being kept in the dark and fed bullshit (the mushroom treatment), so getting to “confused” is progress. When you’re confused, it’s because you realize that all is not as you have been led to believe.

    • akaPatience says:

      Still, it got its digs in:
      “…which Mr. Trump and his allies have attacked without evidence as a plot by law enforcement and intelligence officials to prevent him from winning the 2016 election.”

    • Seneca the Elder says:

      I give up- LOVE your comment.
      Also, did anyone notice the size of the wine glass in front of Comey’s Homey?

  20. littleanniefannie says:

    Maybe these “leaks” are like the ones from $chitt’s committee—designed to deflect from what they had hoped to hear vs what they actually heard. Almost like it came from Hillary’s server dontchaknow!

  21. botchedcasuality says:

    I now have an image of “The Cleaner” in Blacklisted.
    I just don’t know who to cast, Barr or Durham?
    If they get off with ‘bad Info’ as an excuse we at least get to charge with gross negligence, incompetence and demand to shut it down.

  22. All Too Much says:

    FBI v CIA fight will be really interesting to watch. Brennan v Comey. I’ll take Brennan for the fifteen round TKO.
    CIA pushback (WaPo/ABC tomorrow?) needs to undercut the reliance reliance on bad CIA intel argument.
    Leaker Eckenrode has some ‘splaining to do.
    Awesome Sundance analysis, as usual. Identifying the probable leaker is cherry on top.

  23. alliwantissometruth says:

    And now we understand the need to have the radical left control our schools, our children’s minds, and, along with the “media”, the narrative
    Only a manipulated, brainwashed mind could dismiss the absolutely obvious

  24. chooseamerica says:

    Does anyone understand why the corrupt are allowed to preview the IG report and have it redacted to cover up their corruption? How is that justice?

    • mimbler says:

      It actually is a good idea to have the “perps” read the evidence against them and rebut anything they legitimately can. It actually makes for a stronger case than publishing the report and having them then come forward with info that invalidates part of it, which casts aspersions on all of it.

  25. Mike Robinson says:

    There are a number of silly statements here, such as “Trump didn’t authorize… subpoenas.” Dude, Federal Prosecutors don’t need Presidential authority to subpoena. And you know that.
    Throughout the article there’s the tacit assumption that the reader doesn’t really understand. Clue ya… they do now.

  26. Richie says:

    Would it really be that difficult to know who working for Durham is a deep state leaker? Durham only has 2 FBI agents assisting him. Wouldnt he be the least bit suspicious when he learns the media knows about information that only his inner circle is entrusted to know?

  27. Barnestormer says:

    If you’re a card-carrying member of the Small Group, how delighted are you to have this guy on Durham’s interview list?
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zAbZpuT6eb4

  28. JoeMeek says:

    Arguing about which are worse, CIA Agents or FBI Agents, is like arguing which is worse, Ebola or Bubonic Plague.

  29. ristvan says:

    The FBI/DOJ ‘fooled by IC’ defense against felony charges like 18USC§1018 fails for sure based on past public info, or else the perps go to prison for perjury 18 USC§1621. Open and shut cases:
    1. Comey testified to Congress under oath that the dossier was unverified, yet signed the Woods procedure FISA warrant application saying it was verified. Cannot be both.
    2. McCabe testified under oath that the FISA warrant would not have been granted without the dossier. It was.
    3. Durham has the Kavalec note from State to FBI that Steele was biased and unreliable. Orr had in writing reported the same after his London visit. Both BEFORE the first Page FISA application.

    • Tree observer says:

      FBI had a month to verify the dossier before the first fisa app. Didn’t take long to figure out if was just “open source” cr*p gleaned off the internet.

    • glissmeister says:

      The enormity of these historic events seems to build with each passing day. Just as I think I’ve grasped how big this is, it gets bigger, and worse, and more consequential. There will be more. It still feels like it’s just getting started.
      I hold on to my faith in Trump and that which is still good in our government. I hold onto the hope that good people in government are beginning to win the arguments again; to prevail in principle and in struggles they had been losing under prior administrations.
      There is so much good that remains in our society and our government. Were this not true, the craven, depraved and insatiably corrupt would already own us all. Hillary would be POTUS and the good people of the nation would have no champions to set things right. Only Democrats and RINOs to steal them blind and enslave their children as taxable chattel for generations to come. “Bejing on the Potamac” would become reality.
      I still shudder thinking about how near we were to the tipping point, and hold close the quiet fear that tipping point is never far away giving the technology of our modern era.

    • spoogels says:

      WAIT A MINUTE!… If Crowdstrike Didn’t Determine ‘Russians’ Hacked DNC/Hillary’s Emails Until June, How Did Downer Know It Was the ‘Russians’ in May?
      https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/10/wait-a-minute-if-crowdstrike-didnt-determine-russians-hacked-dnc-hillarys-emails-until-june-how-did-downer-know-it-was-the-russians-in-may/

      • Zy says:

        Timelines are important, aren’t they?

      • Redzone says:

        The FBI informed the DNC in September 2015 that its computer network was under attack, including telling them the specific type of attack which included a “Russian” fingerprint (Cozy Bear).
        This knowledge helped concoct the Hillary story. It’s all part of the fake narrative where they intentionally conflate the DNC hack with the Hillary “Russian hack” that was really an internal leak.

        • DD More says:

          Red, except CoyBear wasn’t real either.
          DimiLibs really don’t do Tech very well.
          Add to that the fact that the DNC servers were already compromised in Dec. 2015, not because of a hack, but because of its internal voter and donor database software, NGP VAN, kept dropping its firewall.
          Self-inflected wound.

  30. Blind no Longer says:

    Two former senior F.B.I. agents are assisting with the review, the people said.
    If Durham has these two former agents working with him, he would have to know somebody is leaking on his team. Why hire former FBI to investigate a totally crooked and corrupt institution, that would have to be torn completely to the ground and burnt for the public to ever have any faith in anything any of the lying bastards say?
    That said, I relish the very thought of the crooked bastards in the Intelligence community throwing each other and MOST ESPECIALLY, the spawn of Satan John Brennan under the bus! Criminal prosecutions are going to be forthcoming…..according to people familiar with the matter at the Conservative Treehouse!!!!!

    • rayvandune says:

      I am surprised that the NYT is apparently “sponsoring” the FBI team against the CIA. Brennan is inextricably linked to Obama, who elevated him to head of the CIA.

  31. ChampagneReady says:

    I love the fact that the “small group” hasn’t been interviewed yet. That ABSOLUTELY means they’re targets.
    And for NYT to suggest Durham doesn’t have subpoena power because this is a review? Get a clue you Clinton rag, Durham is a UNITED STATES ATTORNEY. He has subpoena power through his appointment, it doesn’t come from Barr. And Barr is the one who wanted the declassification authority to open the doors for Durham. So spin your cover up garbage someplace else.
    This is shaping up to be a Hurricane Katrina for these despicable frame-up architects and it’s going to go all the way to obama ! I am positively LOVING John Durham !

    • James Carpenter says:

      The “small group” must be feeling the heat by now, waiting for their turn at examination/interview. Why? Because a good lawyer doesn’t ask questions in the court that he/she doesn’t already know the answer to.
      Discovery preceeding questioning. Painting into a corner, no escape.

  32. Zorro says:

    Schiffty Shitt is going to be in pencil neck hyper drive this week to accelerate his part of the coup. Nancy will be using hydraulic cement to keep her dentures in during her frantic press conferences.

    • GB Bari says:

      “Nancy will be using hydraulic cement to keep her dentures in ….”
      ??
      https://tenor.com/view/smile-teeth-donkey-gif-7812042

    • rayvandune says:

      This makes it a bit difficult to maintain that Trump is chasing conspiracy theorIes in Ukraine, don’t it? Remember that for the majority of Times readers, this is the first time they may realize that all those “without any proof” stories might have been “without any truth”.
      If Nancy has any brains (I know, I know…), she would shut down Schiffe and Nadler and start telling the NYT leakers to add the Dems to the list of victims of “bad information”.

  33. Identifying the source and the veracity of the information within a referral or other impetus for an investigation is the first thing that should be done to avoid wasting government resources on a preposterous goose chase (which is the best spin they could put on this fiasco of a failed coup).
    Vetting the source is lesson one in even the most rinky-dink detective school correspondence courses. This thing smelled of baloney from the get-go based on the media reports alone and if these clowns think they’re going to get off by claiming stupidity or that they were duped I think they’re sadly mistaken.

  34. Greg1 says:

    “The key takeaway from this NYT article is the beginning of the public defense narrative for the DOJ/FBI small group. They are starting to position themselves as victims of false information delivered to them by the CIA and Intelligence Community.
    Apparently, this is the big picture defense they will use when the IG report drops.”
    Crossfire Hurricane has apparently devolved into just a Crossfire between fbi/doj and the cia and intelligence community.
    Somebody’s gonna get stuck in the middle……….with a lot of information………..and want out. The closest thing to out is full cooperation with Barr and Durham.
    Looks like things are ramping up.

  35. 2Alpha says:

    So… Who’s the first to get run over by the bus?

    • Zy says:

      On first reading this blog I thought they were isolating Strzok but then it appears they are supporting his decisions and actions,

      • In the Land of Poz says:

        They have no choice. Strzok knows too much and can flip on them, Page may have already flipped, tons of public information implicates them individually and collectively, and now Barr and Durham are digging. They absolutely need to stand together and mount a Brennan-style defense that they were well intentioned but duped and overconfident.

    • ms doodlebug says:

      The quickest way to stop the impeachment crap would be to expose the co-conspirators and enablers in Congress first. But that would make me too happy so…

  36. Let’s see… “bad intel”. That’s always the excuse. Iraq “Weapons of mass destruction” war, Susan ” videotape caused Benghazi” Rice, John “i got bad intel on Mueller’s imminent indictments” Brennan… always the vague, unprovable “bad intel” excuse.

    • Zy says:

      So at what point did you know it was bad intel and why didn’t you inform the public and the special counsel?

      • Rhoda R says:

        And if the CIA is so bad at identifying “Bad Intel” why do we even keep it around? Seems like they are doing more damage to the US with their “Bad Intel” than any bad guy does on purpose.

    • Blind no Longer says:

      Isn’t that the truth!!! But these sorry POS are the very ones demonizing President Trump for his foreign policy and claiming they “KNOW” better…..yeah those very people!! I believe it was the Intel community who went to pencil neck Schitt and “voiced” a major concern over his handling of Ukraine!!!! Those very people who always GET IT WRONG!!! Looks like we the people are right in our judgement to not believe jack shit when it comes to their assessment/judgement.

  37. Justin Green says:

    So the question is… does this article:
    a) surprise Durham?
    b) anger Durham?
    c) inform Durham?
    I mean, if it’s a leak and not an intentional, approved interview – which would be hard to imagine – does Durham respond or make any changes to tighten the leaks or get rid of the leaker? Could be telling.
    I have noticed several attorneys bailing ship on Mueller’s team – apparently some of them got tired of BSing the court in the Flynn case.

  38. HB says:

    If Durham has half the voice of Ed Ogeron, I bet he’s one scary fella.

  39. InAz says:

    Durham using swamp Cretins for the investigation.
    Not good.

  40. k4jjj says:

    I can’t imagine anyone present at the gallows who would not vigorously applaud John Brennan being hanged.

  41. albertus magnus says:

    If you want the truth without spin, you HAVE to read Sundance! Great work as usual!

  42. Dutchman says:

    Its a ‘SOG’ ( Some Other Guy) defence.
    Comey, McCabe abd Stroxz blame Brennan.
    The jury (court or public opinion) has to decide if the defendants in the case THEY are hearing, ‘did it’, BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT.
    If blame Brennan, and in his defence he says “Hey, I just GAVE them the info, I’m not responsible for what they DID with it!”
    They COULD all skate. Need to charge all as CONSPIRATORS, cause then they can’t get seperate trials. And, can’t use ‘SOG’ defence.
    Still have to address ‘justification’ defence.

  43. iwasthere says:

    Sundance? Wasn’t it always going to be the FBI defense that the CIA told them something. You know, just in an abundance of caution – the FBI just HAD to get the wiretaps. It’s total BS the wiretaps were just on Carter Page, because as we know a counter-intel warrant has at least 2 degrees of surveillance around the target. Longest . . . movie . . . trailer . . . ever. Wake me when the movie starts.

  44. davidberetta says:

    Funny isn’t it? Criminals be Criminal…
    Sadly WE have a Government full of Criminals masquerading as…civil “servants”.
    It’s actually nauseating yet hilarious at the same time.
    Makes a sane person wonder how WE arrived at this point in our “FREE” Nation that seemingly at the same time 10’s of millions on the planet want to enter illegally via our southern border

    • Those 10s of millions were racing to pick over our EVERYTHING’s-FREE CARCASS.

      • davidberetta says:

        Yes. How and WHEN was this Welfare crap enacted for Illegal Aliens? That simple Act was pushed by somebody in our “Congress”….then voted on….then signed by some President. Imagine that! — Giving Welfare Benefits to Illegal Aliens!
        How did this occur, when did it occur AND why is it still occurring? That is the question that needs answered. Certain ROUGE States have literal WELCOME MATS, hurdling Illegal Aliens into the front lines of Welfare but WE need to insure the Federal Government is not Swindled out of the money via illegal practices. They occur!
        Illegal Aliens ARE siphoning Welfare payments, many do not even live in the USA (Anchor Babies, etc), yet US Taxpayers continue to fund this idiocy forced upon them.

  45. tav144 says:

    It frankly, imo, doesn’t matter if CIA is where they want to try and pin the start of it. Fact is, the FBI is responsible for investigating and assessing the credibility of whatever tips or witnesses the CIA gives them, and, if adequately probable cause predicated, opening a criminal investigation. This is especially true considering the person to be spied on is not only an American citizen with constitutionally protected rights, notably against unreasonable search and seizure, but also because the American citizen is a presidential candidate, transitional POTUS, and POTUS….yet they continued in willful blindness, failing in every regard. They didn’t even do a basic cursory attempt to fact check before leapfrogging over to obtain a FISA warrant.
    FBI cannot plead ignorance where ignorance was willful. Their very name dictates what their duty was: Investigation. They utterly failed.
    IMO if Barr doesn’t restore credibility back to the FBI and these corrupt institutions by making examples of those involved, then there is no telling the repercussions that will follow. Coup plotters will be emboldened. But the silent majority who have patiently nursed a Cold Anger in hopes of seeing JUSTICE finally be done, may find justification for a hot civil war to take the country back from those intent on destroying it.

    • daylight58 says:

      “FBI cannot plead ignorance where ignorance was willful. Their very name dictates what their duty was: Investigation. They utterly failed.”
      Ahhh… they’ll try the “We’re incompetent, not criminal” defense.

  46. GSparrow says:

    Other than the continued leaks etc, there are some positive indicators that this 1st Collusion Coup attempt from the past might be honestly and thoroughly investigated. Investigations this broad take considerable time, human resources and effort by the DOJ to complete so how much longer will it take? Will it be over before the 2020 election or before the Dems’ 2nd Impeachment Coup is over or not and Trump is either cleared or impeached before the next election?
    Given the numerous escalating attacks against P Trump from McConnell and “I’ll be Trump’s worst enemy” Sen. Judiciary Chairman Graham and several other GOP reps over Syria, his phone call and other whining issues that they despise, the Impeachment outcome is uncertain.
    After 3 years, the real time conspiracy of the 2nd Impeachment Coup attempt is the more immediate priority for Trump’s Presidency, While the 1st Coup has to be exposed and anyone guilty indicted, I hope some DOJ resources are also assigned to at least legally oversee Schiff’s Impeachment Hoax and any illegal involvement by Intel agency officials, private lawyers etc so the DOJ will be more prepared and ready to enact justice against any criminal conspirators involved in the 2nd egregious attempt.

  47. spoogels says:

    1. Gen. Flynn case – the Mifsud Blackberry phones
    [THREAD]
    the two Blackberry phones that were given to Mifsud did not have an Italian SIM.
    2. the two Mifsud phones had a British SIM.
    BOTH.
    how do we know?
    Read on at the thread
    https://twitter.com/GregRubini/status/1185488367762526208

  48. ChampagneReady says:

    This is why there was such mass pandemonium in the black box government when Bill Barr was confirmed.
    They know he knows all the dirty back roads in the CIA as well as every dirty tactic that is possible in the DOJ and they are powerless over him. Seldom have we had such a veteran of the two agencies as Attorney General.
    He also knew the exact right choice to assign to rip back the black curtain of the slimeballs who tried to frame Trump. The 2 FBI agents he put in the slammer in the Whitey Bolger case can attest to it too.

  49. I feel like a Soviet citizen trying to read between the lines in Pravda. trying to figure out if Andropov has dropped off or if Brezhnev is never coming back. That’s what American “journalizm” has come to.

    • billrla says:

      The Gipper Lives: It certainly helps to have lived through the period when “Pravda” and TASS where in their prime. Still, I don’t think the NY Times holds a candle to the great journalistic icons of the Soviet Union, although the NY Times does try its best.

  50. Jimmy says:

    If there are indictments of the members of the coup (from Strzok up to Obama), about 30% of the country – those credulous useful idiots on the left who are hypnotized by MSNBCCNNNBCABCNYTWAPO – will be flabbergasted, shocked, and appalled. They will have no comprehension of how a grand jury could accept what our august news media has told them for three years are merely “crazy right-wing conspiracy theories.” They will therefore assume evidence has been fabricated by Barr. They will fly into a rage. There will be no way to reason them out of this rage.

    • Vikram Parmar says:

      This is why POTUS has allowed the Left to go more and more insane before pulling the trigger. He needs the majority of the public to be NOT surprised that the Dems/MSM could pull off these dastardly deeds.

    • Questa Nota says:

      Managing the communication about the verdicts, evidence process and implications to the public will be a huge project. They will be shocked and will need to have incontrovertible evidence to begin to process the news. One approach would be to get some perps to confess on camera, starting with, say, O. Another includes a Fireside Chat with the prosecutors, Congressional reps and others brought together to help the healing process. That last is probably a tall order, as which Sens or Reps will want to acknowledge either complicity or lack of awareness. Yet, they owe their constituents.

  51. Retired IG says:

    Thank you Sundance and all of your Teeper’s who had the cojones to read a NYT article. These daze, you’d have to pay me my former salary plus benefits. and make it part of an audit I was working on to read it. Amen.
    But seems like things are “Winding Up,” so to speak. All of the players in this LONG WORN OUT SAGA have been doing all they can but admit, “MY ACTIONS WERE DIRECTED, by my SUPERIORS.. I was ONLY DOING WHAT I WAS DIRECTED TO DO.” That is unfortunately, a form of plausible deniability, for Comey, Brennan, Clapper, etc,etc, etc. Who’d want to lose their 6 figure salary plus benefits for denying Obama his wishes?
    I’d love to know if any and all these persons in their former HIGHLY PAID positions, by THE US Taxpayers, MIND YOU, have a forking clue as to how they have betrayed the power of their offices? Or if they even give a forking SHIT that they
    did so
    Wake me up with an alarm when all of these investigations, new articles, etc. start investigating what role Obama played in this ENTIRE SHITSTORM. He is the GIANT ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM THAT NO ONE IS TALKING or WRITING ABOUT.

    • oldumb1 says:

      I think the stink Will be on President Obama, but I doubt he goes down,

    • oldumb1 says:

      I think the stink Will be on President Obama, but I doubt he goes down,

    • old white guy says:

      I vas only following orders ya.

      • cali says:

        @old white guy: It’s an attempt to justify the unjustifiable.
        The problem with all of this the fact that Durham and Barr returned to Italy for the 2nd time because they are not buying what these plotters are selling. From what is reported in the Italian media it appears that the facts don’t match their story!

        • De Oppresso Liber says:

          Misfud’s two Blackberry devices will be much better evidence than any witness testimony…..

      • Uncle Sam says:

        Exactly, Comey, Brennan, & Clapper will all argue they were only obeying Pres. Obama’s orders.ñ

    • These malcontents are trying to use the Nuremberg Defense…”I was following the orders of my superiors”…That WILL NOT hold a thimble full of water…HURTS to be them…
      Betcha’ there are a lot of SQUISHYNESS IN THE SUPER DUPER DEPENDS ABOUT NOW!!!
      I also think that this was “SELECTIVE” leaking to the NY Slime paper!!! Just sayin’!!!

      • southernsue says:

        the evidence will be too great for these traitors to deny
        the law dogs have it all
        videos,photos,communications,etc
        pray that our law dogs are going to do the right thing
        this coup is not just about unseating trump but it is also about taking over our country and giving our sovereignty to the one world order/illuminati/luciferions
        these traitors work for satan

      • Contrarymary says:

        Not just their superiors. Remember rod Rosenstein answer about signing the FISA. Basically, no he didn’t read it. It had gone through other people and they told him what was in it, so he signed it. That was his excuse to give him plausible deniability. Not plausible to me. If you’re the top dog and you’re in on a coup, you darn well better know what your signing.

    • Battleship Wisconsin says:

      It’s remains my opinion that regardless of how legally solid the indictments against the perpetrators are, the most prominent leaders of the Spygate coup won’t cop a plea. Nor will their foot soldier participants in the conspiracy.
      They will choose instead to go to trial in a Washington DC venue and take their chances with what they hope will be a sympathetic jury, with the expectation they’ll all be acquitted.
      But if they are indicted, they all face the same dilemma regardless of whether they cop a plea or they go to trial.
      If they cop a plea, or if they choose to go to trial, clear evidence of the trail of accountability to the very top of the Obama Administration still becomes publicly visible, one way or the other.

      • DaughterofLiberty says:

        I hope and pray this is where the rumors of military tribunals come in. I don’t think issues of traitorous or seditious conduct can be the proper subject matter of a petit jury.

        • ibid says:

          I agree completely.
          The tribunal is the ONLY way to deal with these traitors to We, the People.
          MAKE the example for all the rest.
          All I can say is: “They started it”.

        • Stephen R Baze says:

          I agree it does question credibility at some point ? Seems to me if we do not follow thru with prosecutions the nation will falter for a lack of confidence in what we used to call law and order ? Once that confidence is undermined to such a degree the game is over and no nation can survive such events intact. I see no choice and I agree sedition has clearly been committed on grand scale as ell some forms of treason and no question dereliction many times. Given some of the military legal decisions like Bergdahl and the Ft Hood murderer still alive and well, I am not convinced we would get any better deal via UCMJ ? Our military was completely gutted and criminalized by Obama and crew with yes men !
          Another excellent analysis from treehouse !

        • Battleship Wisconsin says:

          Only a very small percentage of Americans know what happened with Spygate and understand the ramifications for our country if the perpetrators get away without punishment.
          The big problem with using military tribunals is that a large fraction of the American public would perceive them as kangaroo courts being used by a president who is intent on becoming a dictator.
          To be seen as legitimate, indictments against the Spygate perps must be issued using standard processes and procedures and then be subsequently adjudicated in the usual way using civilian courts.
          Sure, doing it this way runs the risk that the Spygate perpetrators will be acquitted even if airtight criminal cases have been made against them.
          But it’s a risk which must be accepted if the cases against them are to be seen as being well-founded in criminal law and in the best interests of pursuing justice for the American people.

          • mark says:

            can the trials be moved to a more neutral venue? I’m sure these scum attorney’s will argue that would be violating their right to be tried by their peers. I can see corrupt juries in DC letting them off.

    • chipin8511 says:

      Here is what they will do next prepare for next year’s market crash just read..I beleive this 100%
      https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/paul-craig-roberts-oligarchs-will-crash-system-boot-trump

  52. In the Land of Poz says:

    The sudden rollout of these anti-Durham articles, full of the usual Slave Media terminology (“controversial”, “without evidence”, “no legal basis”, etc), sure sounds like TOTAL PANIC in the wake of the atomic bomb that just dropped about Mifsud’s phones. I’m sure it is a total coincidence that they are simultaneously pushing the Ukraine impeachment headlines with levels of spin and TDS not even reached during the Years Of Mueller.
    That muffled sound you hear is investigation targets screaming into pillows.

    • And the object of their VERY existence moves even closer to their hand…of their won demise!!!!!!!!

      • WhiteBoard says:

        the Coups’ defense is that our “previous” President’s already sold our sovereignty to a Global Cabal and that President Trump is the Seditionist trying to USAEXIT the GLOBE STATE.
        and this agreement had to be done in secrecy to protect national security
        WAIT FOR IT.

    • Bluto says:

      “without evidence”, “no legal basis” Terms that don’t exist in the Impeachment Investigation.

    • phieudawg says:

      Drudge is NOT covering this news, but he is covering Mittens grandstanding about voting for impeachment. Now, stop and think about who is at risk, money-wise- including who contracts for data management at Bluffdale, UT.
      Mittens is bought and paid for, IMHO.
      I trust him less than I trust McMuffin, who was sockpuppeted as a spoiler, too.

  53. Eric says:

    Ok, let them make that argument. It still won’t explain why they were wiretapping and spying on Trump prior to the Page FISA.

  54. donny2837 says:

    Fantastic work Sundance. You got to be like Pres. Trump, working every minute of the day, getting 3-4 hours of sleep. Today is D+19 of the Counter Offense. Enemy screaming, crying, gnashing teeth and pulling out their hair. Command & control structures destroyed. FISA works both ways. President Trump has a TOP SECRET server (one that they can’t access), he’s hiding things. It’s every rat for themselves. Hooah.

    • Bob says:

      The arrogance of the media to still portray themselves as objective journalists with no political agenda. Everything thing they report and do not is to push the Democrat leftist agenda. When they do cover a story of major significance it is slanted instead of just putting forth the facts and let the viewer decide. CNN is the worst followed by NBC news.

  55. thedoc00 says:

    This may turn into a major environment issue by the Green New Deal folks. So many buses are required for IC, State Department, Obama Cabinet and DoJ bodies to be thrown under, its going to be a carbon foot print disaster area. Just image AOC backing AG Barr on environmental protection grounds.

  56. NYT: “asked witnesses pointed questions about any anti-Trump bias”
    –Bias isn’t a crime. It’s what you do or don’t do with it. That’s the Chris Wray line of bull–“Oh, nothing a little anti-bias training won’t fix!” As if training cures sedition.
    NYT: “Barr revealed in the spring that he planned to scrutinize the beginnings of the Russia investigation, which Mr. Trump and his allies have attacked without evidence as a plot by law enforcement and intelligence officials”
    “Without evidence”–that’s circular logic. How do you usually get evidence? By having law enforcement investigate. But its law enforcement you’re investigating. And they found themselves clean as a whistle.
    blower.

    • California Joe says:

      How does the NYT know there’s no evidence??? LOL! It’s just the typical propaganda spin they put on fake news to mislead their handful of readers.

  57. Chilidog says:

    Anyone at the FBI who is universally described as a “straight shooter” should be looked at with suspicion. Only someone who hates Trump could ever be described in such a way. All that phrase means is that both democrats and never trump republicans like him. The only positive indicator in this investigation is that dems hate Barr.

    • Sugarhillhardrock says:

      Hate Barr.
      Terrified of Durham.

    • redthunder238 says:

      Or so they say. I’m not sure how anyone can believe anything the Dems say. IMO they’re all on the same team. If Barr was really on our side something should have happened by now, he’s running out the clock. Durham is nothing more than something for us to cling to.

    • Bluto says:

      Comey was represented as a “straight shooter” too.

    • Zy says:

      Could it be just the brainwashed D sheeple hate Barr but the higher up elite D’s love him?

      • redthunder238 says:

        That’s exactly how I see it, the elites know that Barr is one of them. There’s way too much dirt in his past to just come out swinging at the DS. Barr’s fatalist comment was just part of the ruse. He’s not going to help Trump win again.

  58. Mike says:

    Strzok interviewed Hilary, he was hand picked by Brennan to help write the “EC”, he did the ambush interview of Flynn, he wrote the predicate for “Crossfire Hurricane”, and it sure looks like he was the affiant who swore that the Carter Page FISC warrant was truthful and reliable…
    If it turns out he was the rat who instructed Mifsud to plant “the Russians have Hilary’s emails” op with Mifsud…
    Strzok if you are out there, I hope you have a dead man’s switch. You are about to be Epstein’d.

    • CNN_sucks says:

      Who knows maybe he is the rabid fall guy. He will be next to arkancide by Hillary.

      • Bob says:

        So their defense is we had noble intentions but we were just fed false information or were just following orders, which begs the questions- who fed you the wrong information, did the people who fed it to you actually believe it to be true or knew it was false and whose orders were you following? Sounds like the Nazi defense at Nuremberg- I was only following orders.

      • WhiteBoard says:

        the fall guy like the Epstein episode?
        hire some dope to sit in the cell and have him suicided, as Epstein rides off in the wind.
        The Intel Globe State strikes again… nice story to end discussion
        The ways they make money is hidden for “national security”.
        “national security’ is the new “It wasn’t me”

    • Perot Conservative says:

      He comes off like a Dudley Dooright pit bull, could be tenacious, but probably an IQ of 105?
      You typical engineer and writer (old school writers) I’m told averaged 125.

    • Dim Osmab says:

      Strzok is not affiant, he said it in his testimony

      • WhiteBoard says:

        CAN ANYONE help me FIND the names of the FBI Agents that arrested Papadopulus at DULLES airport???
        Those agents know whats up.

        • CNN_sucks says:

          Curtis Heide and Michael McSwain met PapaD in Dulles Airport where he was arrested. There half agents that were there.

    • Patrick Healy says:

      I thought that piece of dirt -Strzxy – (how do pronounce his Slavic? name?) is still employed by the President. Therefore he can be prosecuted.
      One other thing that bothers me.
      I believe under your system, many of those rats still have security clearance even when fired
      Is that is the case it’s a worry.
      Good luck my American cousins and when you have mucked out your horse stables could you send someone over to Britain to clear out our pig sty? As we have no honest cops over here.

    • SAM-TruthFreedomLiberty says:

      Strzok was also on the team that cleared Hillary right before the election after New York FBI was about to go public about their delay to review the Weiner Laptop:
      “The F.B.I. team had plowed through 50,000 Hillary Clinton e-mails found on Anthony Weiner’s laptop in less than one week. Yet on Saturday night, November 5—less than three days before polls opened for Election Day, 2016—there were 3,000 more to review. Pizza was ordered. Around 2 a.m. the job was done, and an e-mail was written informing Director James Comey that nothing new or incriminating had been discovered.
      The senior agent who led that review and wrote that e-mail was not publicly identified at the time. Nor when he became a top investigator for Robert Mueller. Now, though, Peter Strzok”
      https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/12/hillary-is-corrupt-and-trump-is-crazy-the-fbi-anger-at-being-scapegoated

  59. Paul says:

    DOJ/FBI Small Group is starting to position themselves as victims of false information delivered to them by the CIA and Intelligence Community.
    SORRY! This defense will never work if that is their plan? Why?
    All FBI/DOJ agents must following their departments Policies and Procedures in “All” investigations.
    1. Fisa policies and procedures were not followed repeatedly.
    2. The consent agreement between Hillary lawyers and the FBI/DOJ to ensure proper investigative/prosecutorial procedures were not followed in Hillary’s alleged criminal acts.
    3. The FBI/DOJ allegedly knew Hillary paid for the dossier and was trying to frame the President Elect and the President of Criminal acts that Hillary allegedly did.
    4. FBI/DOJ allegedly motivated by Hillary to frame the President of criminal acts that they actually did.
    5. Etc. Etc. Etc….the list are in the hundreds if not in the thousands.
    There is an easy identifiable paper/digital and testimonies trails of evidence showing beyond any doubt that the FBI/DOJ allegedly did not follow normal investigative/prosecutorial procedures in hundreds of investigations creating a coup.
    Each criminal case will be one of the easiest cases to prosecute in U.S. history.
    Everyone involved in this coup should be imprisoned for life.
    The defense is so weak it is laughable.
    Great Reporting Sundance…as Always.

    • Nicole says:

      Exactly! Is does not matter “what” the CIA and Intelligence Community delivered to them; the FBI/DOJ and each agent must follow normal policies and procedures…they went light years beyond that…allegedly framing the President of the United States of criminal acts that they actual did.
      It is a criminal act for Comey not to following normal policies/procedures while investigating Hillary for political reasons. It is extremely easy to prove if Comey didn’t follow normal Policies and Procedures in investigating Hillary; the paper/digital trails are everywhere.
      First…Reverse immunity deals; criminals can not give each other immunity.
      Judicial Watch is going after Hillary because she is the alleged motivator of the Coup…the opening statement for each prosecution; for “More” money and power.
      IMO-Hillary is very dangerous and is partnered with the globalist. (Trillions of dollars and Power at risk).
      P/T has always planned on having Hillary face Justice and the time is really close.

    • Perot Conservative says:

      Saul Alinsky tactic? Accuse them of what you are guilty of?

    • Chilidog says:

      All of that may be true, but we still don’t know what the intent of the Durham investigation is. Is it to hold the deep state accountable for their abuse of power? Or is it to close the investigation with minimal damage to the bureaucracy? If it’s the latter, the DOJ can use the old standby of “mistakes were made but no corrupt intent” to let them off.

      • Paul says:

        Concentrate on the Duty and the Obligation of PDJT in ensuring criminals/coup face Justice.
        PDJT has powers given to him by the Constitution to insure normal investigative/prosecutorial policies and procedures are followed.
        If PDJT did not do his duty; the Constitution would be eliminated and the United States would become a 3rd world country.
        PDJT and family would be destroyed after leaving office by the criminals/coup.
        PDJT has planned from Nov 2016 to destroy the Coup/Criminals; PDJT repeated acknowledgement for over 3-years of the coup/criminal acts to destroy the Constitution locks in (guarantees) the implementation of the Criminal codes or PDJT will be the worst President in U.S. history.
        YOU STATE; If it’s the latter, the DOJ can use the old standby of “mistakes were made but no corrupt intent” to let them off.
        MY REPLY; the mountains of paper/digital trails of evidence is 100 million light-years beyond mistakes…this is nonsensical and is easily seen by the American People and the Rule of Law.
        PDJT is holding an unbeatable hand to implement Justice; as stated by many.
        PDJT stated/implied he will manage the FBI/DOJ if needed.
        PDJT has a duty to implement many paths to win this Legal Civil War, taking extreme actions if necessary to protect the Constitution.
        We are fighting for our right to be free…..and PDJT implementing Justice is the only path to be free.

        • Orygun says:

          Best comment of the day! A breath of logical clear thinking air.

        • RobInPA says:

          Right on Paul!
          PDJT offered an ‘Olive Branch of Peace’ when he said something to the effect of “Crooked HilLIARy has suffered enough. . .”, but when she and the DS Cabal released the attack dogs to track down PDJT, his family, his friends, his administration, his business partner’s and everyone tied to PDJT for the kill, any chance of peace as it were reduced to less that zero at that point!
          PDJT is a winner and a fighter, and he, I believe, knows that he and the U.S.A. is in a now or never kill or be killed fight for his personal and our Country’s very existence.
          MAGA don’t roll over!!

        • redthunder238 says:

          I want to believe you but if Trump was really planning out bringing them down, scumbags like Wray and Jessie Liu wouldn’t still be in power. To be honest I don’t think Trump knows as much as we do when it comes to all of this. He’s got other things to worry about.

          • Michael says:

            IMO-P/T knew more than any of us 25 years ago, 10 years ago, 5 years ago and on Nov. 2016; P/T knows 100 times more than anyone here…or he would be the worst President in U.S. history.
            There is nothing more important than P/T strategically planning from Nov 2016 to apply the Rule of Law to Criminals/Coup.
            P/T knows (logical) that without the Rule of Law all the other things P/T has to worry about would be deminimis, a waste of time and all for nothing. (No Constitution and 3rd world country status)
            P/T will be known throughout history for implementing the Rule of Law and saving the Constitution.

            • redthunder238 says:

              Explain why Wray is still leading the FBI then. Explain why Trump appointed TWO AG’s straight out of the swamp. You can’t and I hope you don’t try.

              • Michael says:

                If you understood the history of PDJT business strategies and dealings; you would better understand PDJT.
                PDJT over the past 3-years has changed his strategies daily as all great generals do.
                PDJT has allowed Wray and the mistake of Sessions to continue for his advantage.
                PDJT IMO made a mistake of picking Sessions but allowed him to stay because of Mueller needed to end the Mueller investigation first.
                PDJT used this 3-year time period to strategically allow the Criminals to destroy themselves; thus added thousands of pages of testimonies to the Mountains of paper/digital trails of evidence and to educate/expose them to the American people.
                The conflicting statements of testimonies will create hundreds of years of perjury charges.
                PDJT picked many Judges to replace liberal Judges.
                Etc. Etc. Etc.
                IMO Muller and Rosenstein had planned to continue the Russia Investigation through the 2020 election. IMO PDJT made Mueller and Rosenstein and offer they could not refuse…end the Russia Investigation by this date or I will go straight to the Supreme Court and win and expose all your direct corruption. Mueller and Rosenstein took the deal because they do not want to be the center of this Legal Civil War and the alleged prearranged coup; (Uranium One, signing of FISA etc…) Mark Levin commented on PDJT going to the Supreme Court.
                Most historical Generals who fights wars do not give out their war plans and why they make particular moves.
                I could continue to write hundreds of examples but you think completely differently than I do and it would never convince you in a hundred of years.
                Best of Luck…

            • Michael says:

              If you understood the history of PDJT business strategies and dealings; you would better understand PDJT.
              PDJT over the past 3-years has changed his strategies daily as all great generals do.
              PDJT has allowed Wray and the mistake of Sessions to continue for his advantage.
              PDJT IMO made a mistake of picking Sessions but allowed him to stay because of Mueller needed to end the Mueller investigation first.
              PDJT used this 3-year time period to strategically allow the Criminals to destroy themselves; thus added thousands of pages of testimonies to the Mountains of paper/digital trails of evidence and to educate/expose them to the American people.
              The conflicting statements of testimonies will create hundreds of years of perjury charges.
              PDJT picked many Judges to replace liberal Judges.
              Etc. Etc. Etc.
              IMO Muller and Rosenstein had planned to continue the Russia Investigation through the 2020 election. IMO PDJT made Mueller and Rosenstein and offer they could not refuse…end the Russia Investigation by this date or I will go straight to the Supreme Court and win and expose all your direct corruption. Mueller and Rosenstein took the deal because they do not want to be the center of this Legal Civil War and the alleged prearranged coup; (Uranium One, signing of FISA etc…) Mark Levin commented on PDJT going to the Supreme Court.
              Most historical Generals who fights wars do not give out their war plans and why they make particular moves.
              I could continue to write hundreds of examples but you think completely differently than I do and it would never convince you in a hundred of years.
              Best of Luck…

      • Peppurr says:

        Well, whatever it is, a deterrent has to be established and a prescedent has to be set. so that this never happens again.

  60. spoogels says:

    This article goes DEEP–very deep
    The machinations behind the Deep State Coup attemtp –Ukraine, Russia the US, AND THE MEDIA
    Benchmark The ODNI and associate agencies based their claim of Russian hacking and influence on a group of Influence peddlers including- Aric Toler, Petr Poroshenko, James Clapper, Dimitry Alperovich, Dimitry Yarosh, Hillary Clinton, Barrack Obama, Andrij Dobriansky, Ivanka Zajac, George Masni, Taras Masnij, Alexandra Chalupa, Irena Chalupa, Elliot Higgins, Nestor Paslawsky, Joel Harding, Andrew Aaron Weisburd, Clint Watts, Andreas Umland, and Andrea Chalupa. Oh, lest I forget, it just wouldn’t be the same without Ukrainian nationalism’s uber nazi- Stepan Bandera III.
    Key organizations working directly and indirectly with Joel Harding’s IO are Bellingcat, InformNapalm, Stopfake, Propornot, InterpreterMag, Euromaidan Press, Hamilton 68 Dashboard, Facebook, and Twitter.
    A long convoluted read but v v interesting
    https://washingtonsblog.com/2019/09/the-terrorists-among-us-7-stopping-the-deep-state-coup.html

  61. MR52 says:

    Ha, there is one problem with this. The SDNY DOJ and FBI are tied in to all the Drug dealing out of South America as well as all the fake Trump related stuff. Guess who help them with this? The WSJ and GPS Fusion (note ex WSJ people) and Preet Bharara.
    It all makes sense why they are trying so hard to protect the exposure from South America and Ukraine. I am guessing the immigration is just a quick pro quo for the kick backs from SA that the dems are getting.

    • Perot Conservative says:

      When it was let out that El Chapo reportedly gave an ex President of Mexico $100 Million, that puts it on another level.
      Just like the Cartel executing police to retrieve El Chaparito 2 days ago.

  62. Paul Gallant says:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJ5aIvjNgao
    How Clapper and Brennan gave it up. Clapper in the room and Brennan with the Mickey Dee’s.

    • JohninMK says:

      x100 likes for the Wire reference, let alone that particular content. IMHO the best series to come out of the US. Well maybe not quite as good as MASH.

  63. Retired IG says:

    Just to be clear on my part, am not dissing Inspector General Horowitz, Durham, etc. and all participants who have working in the deep weeds, and doing their best to dig out the deep roots of corruption. If I had been working with Horowitz on this review, and had to write up all of those darn work papers re the interviews and analysis, by now I’d probably would have just about lost my sanity and found a way to retire early.
    Sometimes, but not always, all the work you do as an auditor gathering evidence and the findings you have regarding the AUDIT OBJECTIVE ends up with a deep and heavy THUD. A SO WHAT?
    The motto of a IG auditor in the agency I used ito work for, was to “expose fraud, waste, and abuse of taxpayer funds, and or improve the management of contractor operated facilities”
    Horowitz has a whole other ball game on his plate. Sending prayers to him and his staff.

  64. Republicanvet91 says:

    “have asked witnesses pointed questions about any anti-Trump bias among former F.B.I. officials”
    One would hope this is not going in the direction where Anti-Bias training Volume II is implemented by Wray.

  65. mtk says:

    The crux is, “If the weaponization of the FBI/DIJ and IC was a political construct, i.e. running by a counterintelligence operation, the question is, “Was the ‘predicate’ a legally sanctioned operation.” “Does it have a legal basis?”
    Is that not the larger question at hand?
    On the other hand, “If the predicate was built on an a foundation, that was driving by the need to protect down stream activities not related to 2016 that must not come to light, such that in order was to accomplish and prevent adverse outcomes the ‘witch hunt’ was predicated and launched.
    Then the entertainment of a counterintelligence operation that became the modus operandi to achieve the favorable results/outcome of prevention.”
    Is in question?!!
    That is to say much of last three years is a reference point into a dynamic to white wash and obstruct illegal activities/exposure by means of a fraudulent based counterintelligence operation.
    Then IF the term “we resist much” has become vogue than equally the saying, “we lie much” is just in vogue.
    In essence that is what lies at the heart of the Predicate. And, “Would be a whole different ball of wax.”
    Because that would call in question many prior Concerns that felt the need to launch an investigation that would bastardize and bias many of the underlying Predicates to direct ‘the’ obstructive cover story.
    One could say, “If a counterintelligence operation(based on illegal construct) could play fast and loose with the rule of law, what happens when the reverse is pursued by a legal sanctioned counterintelligence operation that is launched(under the guise of AG Barr and Durham). Would not such an operation avail themselves to the same shadows of legalities. Sanctioned lying and misdirection designed to throw off.
    Enter Rudy, enter a “Not by the book’ play of ‘in their face’ bull baiting, only to find out in the end the appearnce of malignancy of corruption was a legally weaponized and sanctioned counterintelligence operation to flush out the Predicate.
    Welcome to the World of Counterintelligence, where nothing seems to be, “What it is?”
    If Mad Max’s Spy vs Spy rings true. Then you’re closer to understanding the game, and as such closer to understanding my long standing contention…
    “There is no way the FBI/DOJ stuck their necks outs on the so called ‘small group’s’ so called ‘insurance policy’ without getting an ‘up or down’ vote from the Gang of Eight.
    Proving that is the crux of the Game of Swamps, and much to the heart on the rejoinder driving the heart and mind set of TDS on the Capital Hill.
    In the world of counterintelligence, “Is the underdog preception is an asset to be played… To the Max?”
    My long standing premise( did i just switch crayons) is such that the ‘trillions at stake’ argument is built on the interests avocating on our behalf are not same folks that have been selling us out.
    Asking that predicate question is an observation… reveals much about the non action of the State to find actionable outcomes.
    Yes, I am taking a stand!!!!
    I am calling BS to the BS!!!!!

  66. RLTW says:

    The NYT op ed by Admiral McCraven calling for the overthrow of our government might be worth paying attention to.
    The fact that you used me and my JSOC Brothers as unwitting pawns to round up fifteen thousand Sons of Iraq Sunni allies so you could hand them over to Shia Maliki government to be genocided wouldn’t have anything to do with your recent article would it Admiral?
    We have blown the whistle on you Admiral. Along with Odierno. You had to exterminate our allies, The Sons of Iraq, in order to keep the war profits coming in. You are a war criminal. You are are worse than Milosevic.
    You made me and my brothers war criminals.

    • donna kovacevic says:

      Milosevic was exonerated by the UN Tribunal however 11 after his death. I resent you dirtying his name while speaking of dirty evil american politicians. Oh people with little knowledge that like to throw names around, not knowing where the truth lies. RIP Slobodan Milosevic, Vjecna ja Pamjat means memory eternal. Amin.

  67. rayvandune says:

    Funny how SDNY grabbed the two Ukrainians and fingered Rudy, but all of a sudden the crime of the century just dropped off the radar?

    • California Joe says:

      Yes! It’s amazing that when it comes to jamming up anyone connected to President Trump with bullshit charges like “campaign finance” violations it takes the DOJ and FBI twenty minutes to investigate and prosecute the case. On the other hand, high ranking officials of the federal government attempted a coup by framing the President of the United States for a crime that not only he didn’t commit but a crime that never even happened….takes years and years to properly vet before a criminal investigation in initiated.

  68. Republicanvet91 says:

    “Many of the questions from Mr. Durham’s team overlapped with ones that the Justice Department inspector general, Michael E. Horowitz, has posed in his own look into aspects of the Russia inquiry, according to the people.”
    I wonder if this would suggest the Horowitz report will result in something more substantial. If Horowitz was aware of Durham looking into things overlapping his own investigation, would that cause someone to be a bit more careful in what their report said?

    • California Joe says:

      Absolutely! Horowitz knowing that the Durham investigation was closely following in his footsteps would mean he’d be putting his own neck and career at risk by sweeping FBI and CIA crimes under the rug so Horowitz would be much less likely to softball the results of his work. Frankly, I don’t have much confidence in Horowitz after the first two investigations he concluded using blinders!

      • Republicanvet91 says:

        What makes this even more delicious is the whining from Brower in the NBC article. Brower was complaining about Durham investigating, and saying this is the type of investigation that belongs with the IG….where it can be covered up.
        I guess if Durham is looking over Horowitz’ shoulder, Brower won’t like either report.

        • Durham is DOING EXACTLY THAT…ON ORDERS FROM…Mr. Bagpipes!!!
          The spilling of this much information tells me that the narrative is about to change.
          This is going after the leaks and the ONLY way to do that is to leak certain information and follow the bread crumbs.
          ANYONE WHO IS DOING this type of investigation is SWORN TO SECRECY and the ones who violate it are in some VERY DEEP KEMCHI!!! This is a mole hunt!!!
          Need to find the leakers before the FULL report comes out because the information will be used in CRIMINAL TRIALS!!!

      • Perot Conservative says:

        Paul Sperry says he’s an awful investigator, former friends with Comey or Mueller (or both), and he and his wife gave to Democrats.

        • Horowitz’s wife was a producer for CNN!!! That should speak volumes right there!!! Think she doesn’t influence her husband’s view of the FBI’s actions?
          Wonder what she thinks every time she hears CNN sucks at a Trump rally!

          • dwpender says:

            Lou Dobbs and Tucker Carlson, among many others, used to work at CNN. I’d need to hear more details on when she worked there and what she actually worked on before reaching a conclusion on her likely opinions.

        • redthunder238 says:

          Are you referring to Horowitz or Durham?

    • Bob says:

      My fear is the usual whitewash- no one had a criminal intent, they were just sloppy, had bad information, acted with a good intent but were just negligent not verifying the information. They were not acting out of bias towards Trump or to influence the election.
      Only a clueless fool ,meaning your typical progressive voter, will buy into this.

  69. road rage says:

    I think everybody here ignores the effect of “Bronx juries” and the need for the prosecutors to consider such things. How many Hillary voters are going to vote to convict John Brennan?
    Are prosecutions of Andrew McCabe going to fire up Dem. voters? No doubt.
    Will any indictments be filed before November 2020? I am an ex-prosecutor and strong Trump supporter. Would I indict John Brennan before Nov. 2020? Under no circumstances. Is it possible that any crimes he is being accused of will have the statute of limitations run by 2012. YES.

    • Contrarymary says:

      I know here in California, they can send you a federal jury summons from way out of the area, so I’m assuming they can do the same. I know many people who have been called to serve in Sacramento which is 3 hours away.

      • jbowen82 says:

        California is a big state. These folks would likely be tried in either DC, Maryland, or northern Virginia. The probability of empaneling a jury that does not include at least one die-hard Trump-hating Democrat is zero. In this case, the process may be the only punishment.

    • Perot Conservative says:

      How about 2020?
      And a former federal attorney or judge here, a few years back, suggested any charges likely would include indictments for Conspiracy.
      He explained the SOL on Conspiracy was 5 years … from the last act of the group!? … so if the FBI erased smartphones a year ago… buried evidence 6 months ago …
      Yes, we’re well aware of DC juries. … Q people have dreams of military tribunals (not gonna happen).

    • MBB says:

      What you are not taking into account is that charges brought against several of these coup members at the same time well cause quite a little panic. They very well may start turning on each other and turning states evidence. And in addition they will all become bankrupt, something they did to general Flynn, Manafort and others.As soon as even one of them turns on the others, people will be making plea deals. At that point the truth will come out. I pray I am right about this.

    • Oscar says:

      Absolutely right on! The jury pool in Virginia and D.C will never indict Hillary and her clan even if you found a video of her cannibalizing newborns.

  70. Another Scott says:

    “ They are starting to position themselves as victims of false information delivered to them by the CIA and Intelligence Community”…so if they do that the key is “false information”. As in the entire Russia collusion investigation was a sham. Yes we already know that but it will be nice to see the red hot core of conspirators admit it….

    • wightmanfarm says:

      Isn’t that the job of journalist – to get information then find out if the info you were given is correct. Verifying.

    • WhiteBoard says:

      Mommy, Russia lied to me about what Trump did. The intel was fake, my bad – oops. I’m sorry.
      BREAKING NEWS Russia interfered with the election by tricking Brennen. Brennen is sorry and he vows to get even with Russia. Declare war!!!
      ^sarcasm some, but i wouldnt put it past the media.
      These people are sick and losers.

  71. Interesting how the NYT keeps away from referencing Page being the recipient of a FISA warrant. They keep referring to it as nothing more than a secret wiretap. Along with everything else, they seem to be minimizing the actions as no big deal. And to them it probably isn’t. If it’s a Republican president, it’s normal to try to overthrow the government. If it’s a Democrat president, it’s normal to overlook criminal acts.

    • Contrarymary says:

      I still think Page was a willing participant. He was on the Clinton transition team and was an informant on other cases. He never seemed to have any fear of being charged and, frankly, smiled too much which, since everyone else was squeezed with charges, seemed to show a complete lack of concern for what they could do to you.

  72. Don DeVan says:

    Nobody in the “intelligence” community was ever held accountable for the 9/11 attack; nobody held accountable for the “Saddam has weapons of mass destruction” blunder; nobody for the Boston Marathon bombing. Because the swamp fears the spys since, as Schumer warned, they have 6 ways to Sunday to get you. So they will skate this time too.

  73. Ma McGriz says:

    If the tiresomely predictable ‘scream victim and blame somebody else’ defense doesn’t pan out, they can always fall back on ‘the devil made me do it.’
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kaiLcwHXB4
    Given what evil that bunch are up to and knowing how much more and dirtier is the rot that lies unseen beneath and behind it all, it’s not surprising to see the old gray thing….I don’t think we can call her a lady anymore, even euphemistically…I digress… it’s not surprising to see the old gray thing contorting herself to accommodate their need for cover and diversion.

  74. Perot Conservative says:

    Asha, CNN analyst and big Liberal?
    Same Asha here on her twitter handle, pictured with Robert Mueller?
    https://mobile.twitter.com/AshaRangappa_?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
    Asha [email protected]_

  75. TreeClimber says:

    My question… why does Durham have a known plant on his team, prominently on his team? Although that could explain “what’s taking so long,” if he’s literally fighting his own team every step of the way.

    • wightmanfarm says:

      Yeah, doesn’t sound good to me either.

    • redthunder238 says:

      Durham seems to be a head fake. It’s something to give us hope and keep us quiet for the time being. Barr is a snake.

      • Linda K. says:

        Yeah. pretty good speech at Notre Dame Barr gave. Why did he personally go to Italy to pick up the blackberries? You all are wishing Barr was a snake, but he is not.

        • redthunder238 says:

          He’s simply giving us something to cling to. He’s running out the clock and most everyone here sees it, including SD. Look up his history going back to the 70’s. The guy is pure swamp and now we know there’s known traitors on Durham’s team. Quit falling for it, they’re all guilty but NONE of them are going down. It’s simply too big to fail.

  76. Magabear says:

    This is the NYT at its best bullSchiff writing:
    “which Mr. Trump and his allies have attacked without evidence as a plot by law enforcement and intelligence officials to prevent him from winning the 2016 election.”
    No evidence?!?! The evidence is everywhere if bullSchiff media outlets like the NYslimes would actually do real journalism instead of being the demonrats praeturium guard!
    No evidence……….F off NYT.

  77. Ladylou says:

    So how did Downer know that the Russians had Hilary’s E mails in May (per George P) when Crowdstrike determined that the Russians hacked the server in June? Did Downer get his story line mixed up? Someone’s story isn’t straight is it?

  78. Perot Conservative says:

    Look at what Asha and her intell “friends” are retweeting! (And they buy into Jill Stein and Tulsi being Russian assets.) Insanity.
    https://twitter.com/john_sipher/status/1185607275462975493?s=20

  79. RAC says:

    ” They are starting to position themselves as victims of false information delivered to them by the CIA and Intelligence Community. ”
    Could this turn out to be a useful crack in the coup plotters unified facade?

  80. Atomic Hillbilly says:

    Throwing the CIA under the bus.
    That’s a nice beginning to the popcorn festival that awaits us.
    I wonder if Durham picked this eckenrode character or was Durham “encouraged” to use him?
    No doubt that Wray would be looking for any possible way to peek into Durham’s investigation.

    • WhiteBoard says:

      haha yes! and who is the intel going to throw under the bus?
      i am beyond impressed at how this site laid this out for years!
      I wouldnt be suprised if Hillary’s server was sending emails from foreign actors on behalf of her name!
      oh and according to ASHA (the FBI Agent that the TELEVsion show seems to be made from lol – losers) you can be a Russia ASSET if you simply say something that benefits russia.
      made a movie out of her lol – losers!

  81. farrier105 says:

    Durham is conducting a REVIEW. It is a big review, but it is a review. This is the terminology used by the reporter, not investigation. The reporter has inside sources who know the purpose of the investigation, which would have to be shared with interview subjects. So, we have both the sources inside the investigation and those interviewed who are telling the reporter the same thing. Durham’s operation is a review. No grand jury is at work here.
    The prosecutors, led by John H. Durham, the United States attorney in Connecticut, have interviewed about two dozen former and current F.B.I. officials, the people said. Two former senior F.B.I. agents are assisting with the review, the people said.
    Mr. Durham has yet to interview all the F.B.I. officials who played key roles in opening the Russian investigation in the summer of 2016, the people familiar with the review said. He has not spoken with Peter Strzok, a former top counterintelligence official who opened the inquiry; the former director James B. Comey or his deputy, Andrew G. McCabe; or James A. Baker, then the bureau’s general counsel
    The president granted Mr. Barr sweeping powers for the review, though he did not open it as a criminal investigation. That means he gave Mr. Durham the power only to read materials the government had already gathered and to request voluntary interviews from witnesses, not to subpoena witnesses or documents. It is not clear whether the status of the review has changed.
    Voluntary interviews means the subjects of the interviews were informed that it was not a criminal investigation and therefore they were not targets of any criminal investigation. If they were criminal suspects being interviewed, they would have been informed of their rights and more than one person would conduct the interview.

    • Pew-Anon says:

      Combine that with this…

      [So Mr. Durham has not questioned the “small group” participants. Ultimately this appears to be the reason for the nervousness now originating a defensive posture.]
      Those omissions suggest Mr. Durham may be waiting until he has gathered all the facts before he asks to question the main decision makers in the Russia inquiry.
      [Or it could be that those “main decision makers” are targets of the investigation.]

      …OR, it could mean Durham is engaged in something that sounds a lot like the behavior of Horowitz outlined in this article:
      https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2019/09/30/straight_shooter_justice_dept_watchdog_has_held_his_fire_on_the_top_brass_120565.html

      • farrier105 says:

        This is further evidence that there is no grand jury seated since the targets have not yet been interviewed. This may have changed since the article was written, but that would mean a new grand jury investigation.
        If you are interviewing the subject of an investigation, you have to give that person their Miranda rights and have a witness to the interview, namely a second agent. Most subjects/targets will NOT voluntarily be interviewed and you will need grand jury subpoenas, which is why I suspect, in addition to the article constantly calling it a REVIEW, that this is only a review of past DOJ actions, touching on things the IG cannot.

    • WhiteBoard says:

      good catch!
      Maybe Durham has DUAL HATS?
      1. access to IG’s material and responses from people named within (NYTimes only knows of this number; hence the word ‘review’ ? just a guess)
      2. his own investigation as he sees fit from the findings known (small team and global, and not lying, but allowing people to infer its part of the “review”? just a guess).

      • farrier105 says:

        Durham needs subpoena power to ensure subjects/targets of the investigation can be forced to testify for the grand jury, either in front of it or supplying an FD-302 to present to the grand jury. No way he is going to misrepresent an interview for review purposes in order to pull what was done to Flynn and use a review interview to incriminate a known subject of an investigation.

  82. joemartinjr says:

    Excellent analysis. The jockeying has begun as to who is to become the ultimate fall guy in order to shield Obama, if it isn’t to late for that already and or who is going to flee the couch try to avoid prosecution. Beyond that the question becomes how far down into the incestuous snake pit that is the DNC, the MSM and the alphabet soup of IC the conspiricy will reach.
    In almost any serious investigation the targets are almost always the last on the list to be interviewed. Not only am I wait for that but also which ones of lower level individuals are being called back for a second interview, i.e.being offered a deal to squeel.

  83. davidberetta says:

    I would bet that Washington Post, CNN, The New York and others are actually propped up financially by the US Taxpayers – via illicit CIA and State Department funding programs.
    I cannot see who any of them are truly self sufficient; only a (majority), ignorant population would permit such obscenity and I do not believe we are there yet.
    Minimal research shows that many line items within the CIA budget are “Top Secret” and some in the State Dept. are as well.
    Imagine that – corrupt members of Congress approving top secret budgetary items the public will never know about

    • waawash says:

      The NYT’s will (hopefully) be ensnared in Barr’s web.

    • Screaming Eagle says:

      David I’ve been pointing this out for years. What network could survive with such ratings? Why do Clapper and Brennan work there? Comey a paid contributor? They are funded through top secret budgets, from our taxes. Commies never pay our of their own pocket. Schiff’s fraudulent closed door inquisition is nothing but continuing “opposition research” funded by us taxpayers.

  84. Interested Observer says:

    The CIA/DOS people are nervous because at the end of the day, Barr and Durham are DOJ/FBI.

  85. So when do we see someone being led off in handcuffs? Honestly I am losing interest in following this until we do.

  86. Nessie509 says:

    Curious? The words 2,800 subpoenas and 500 search warrants are included in The NYT article?
    If they seem familiar, they come from conservative talking points about the Mueller Investigation. I don’t think the use of these words are accidental. Conservatives threw out the phrase “2,800 subpoenas and 500 search warrants“ so much, readers anticipated a Nothing Burger. NY Times likely trying to trigger a non response from the investigation of the investigation.
    Another NY Phone book size nothing burger just like the Mueller Report.
    “It is not clear whether he has asked about other parts of the sprawling investigation, which has grown to include more than 2,800 subpoenas, nearly 500 search warrants, 13 requests to foreign governments for evidence and interviews of about 500 witnesses.“

    • redthunder238 says:

      I don’t remember any Conservatives using that as a talking point. I DO remember Leftists using it to fool people into thinking that they had something on Trump.

  87. redthunder238 says:

    So in short, they’re going to throw Brennan under the bus. Any predictions on how Brennan will react to that?

    • railer says:

      Brennan has to eat it. Barr is Swamp and Deep State, and will be the final arbiter of which agency is assigned to eat it, protecting all the others including the SSCI and protecting Obama. Barr will particularly protect the FBI and DoJ, and thus the execrable Lynch and the McCabe cabal.
      Brennan can’t really fight it. He has to obey the Code of Omerta and eat it. But what if a jail sentence comes with that meal?

    • Linda K. says:

      I predict Brennan will start frothing at the mouth and make even uglier faces than usual at the camera when he is indicted. He might blame his good friend James Comey..

  88. David Farrar says:

    They knew they would lose the fact battle, so they chose to fight a propaganda war.
    That’s the essential argument made by James Comey’s friend Benjamin Wittes in his plan of action written in October 2016 when he described the “insurance policy”* – in his outline of what to do in the unlikely event Trump wins. You might remember that Wittes was the friend FBI Director James Comey used to leak his memos to the New York Times.
    * Source: https://www.lawfareblog.com/coalition-all-democratic-forces-part-iii-what-if-trump-wins

  89. MLK says:

    You’re quite right that this is an exceedingly important preview.
    It isn’t coincidental, or merely an attempt to make them look cute and cuddly, that “Intelligence Community” is now ever-present. It’s intended as a wide-ranging protective veneer for persons involved in the broadest sense imaginable in Counter-Intelligence.
    The method to the madness being that anything goes in furtherance of protecting the US Sovereign from a foreign power compromising/blackmailing/colluding with American officials. If you consider this outside the instant context this not only makes sense but it always has and must be this way.
    The reason I just explicated the above is because it may very well be the key starting point to what is coming in terms of both the IG Report and Barr/Durham.
    That’s the first defense, Better Safe Than Sorry when it comes to Counter-Intelligence. In other words, anything goes. Thus when Barr said he wanted to determine whether the investigation was “sufficiently predicated,” he was referring to the formal opening, what the article refers to as the July 2016, “Russia Inquiry.” Not, I stress, necessarily ANY of the particular counter-intelligence operations run against “Trump associates.”
    But this solid defense via the necessity of not constraining counter-intelligence investigations, particularly at this level of significance, is in hopeless conflict with the formal opening of the investigation as well as the failure to provide any “defensive briefings” or heads-up to anyone associated with Trump’s campaign, including Giuliani and others with trusted records and security clearances. (Perhaps that explains the current effort to dirty up Giuliani as a prospective retort to why this wasn’t done).
    Also note the dog that wasn’t barking in this article — the Crowdstrike Russia Hacking report. That element seems to be central to a monumental internal struggle in terms of how to handle it as a part of this resolve. I find it impossible to believe that IG Horowitz could avoid that can of worms in terms of FBI/DOJ actions/inactions. But I suspect that is why “some people inside the Justice Department” are “infuriated” at Trump and his surrogates Mulvaney and Giuliani firing multiple shots across the bow, signaling they’re not going to let that get swept under the rug.
    That is the true point of maximum risk exposure traversing across all lines among the malefactors — the Russia “hacked” the DNC emails fairy story.

    • phieudawg says:

      Very good point. That Crowdstrike seems to be deliberately under-reported, even censored, is a red flag. As is the connection to Google and Eric Schmidt at the time he was serving as donor and advisor to Hillary’s campaign.
      This shift in government purchasing of cloud hosting to Amazon might be a sign too.

    • phieudawg says:

      Very good point. That Crowdstrike seems to be deliberately under-reported, even censored, is a red flag. As is the connection to Google and Eric Schmidt at the time he was serving as donor and advisor to Hillary’s campaign.
      This shift in government purchasing of cloud hosting to Amazon might be a sign too.

    • phieudawg says:

      Very good point. That Crowdstrike seems to be deliberately under-reported, even censored, is a red flag. As is the connection to Google and Eric Schmidt at the time he was serving as donor and advisor to Hillary’s campaign.
      This shift in government purchasing of cloud hosting to Amazon might be a sign too.

    • phieudawg says:

      Very good point. That Crowdstrike seems to be deliberately under-reported, even censored, is a red flag. As is the connection to Google and Eric Schmidt at the time he was serving as donor and advisor to Hillary’s campaign.
      This shift in government purchasing of cloud hosting to Amazon might be a sign too.

  90. Sigh2016 says:

    I applaud Durham in casting a wider net than most would consider while conducting his investigation. The benefits are two-fold: it affords the investigator the opportunity to seize on initial “insignificant” facts that later help piece the significant portions of the puzzle together, AND it shakes the ground beneath those who have something to worry about. Their sure footing is disrupted and now they are in their own heads wondering why so and so is being brought in, and why obvious people are not being questioned yet. Brilliant!!

  91. Curt says:

    I wonder, with Durham in Maryland, if Barr and company will attempt a change of venue, out of the notoriously leftist DC. Tough to find an honest jury there…

  92. Sherri Young says:

    I replied with PapaD’s tweet far upthread on a mention of Hakluyt. I want my fellow Treepers to see this tweet and look at the comments below it. Something tells me that Treepers are among the commenters. Stunning confirmation that Downer spoke to PapaD about Hakluyt.
    https://twitter.com/GeorgePapa19/status/1185924325037105152

  93. 1riot1ranger says:

    I can tell you, having done some of these investigations myself, that saving certain people for the end is DEFINITELY a sign they sre targets

  94. ATheoK says:

    “Coup-Plotters as Victims of CIA and Intelligence Community Manipulation…”

    Two and half years persecuting a legitimately elected president; another half year desperately spinning more persecution of the same President while planning for another year of persecution.
    These coup plotters!?
    Durham and Barr should remand every coup plotter they identify over to a military tribunal that handles treasonous actions.
    Quick trials, quick judgements, quickly administered punishment.
    In a tribunal’s view of a treasonous conspiracy, everyone connected in this anti-Constitutional treasons would suffer a similar process; e.g. connected or slavishly supportive blindered media darlings.
    It would be a refreshingly cathartic action.

  95. Keith Rodebush says:

    Why are corrupt and compromised ‘ex’ swamp creatures part of Durhams investigative team? That is a BIG red flag for me. You?

  96. logboom says:

    Does anyone have any faith in our FBI/DOJ/ CIA or the rule of law?This is the destruction wrought all because the old hag lost. It will take generations to regain any faith in our institutions of Justice. That is why the Supreme Court must be protected from any attempts to remove trust and confidence in it’s decisions

  97. Sherri Young says:

    In this prayer force gathering, Sydney Powell identified Joe Pientka, without naming names, as the agent to whom Bruce Ohr delivered information. She said since his name is redacted everywhere, she had to leave out his name also.
    She also said that she has a huge court filing due Tuesday and asked for prayer to help her write it.
    The video is over an hour with numerous breaks for prayer. Refreshingly, the interviewer knows his stuff.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=25&v=vJ_VOoGeoH8

  98. BigTalkers says:

    This all makes perfect sense to me. The Barr – Durham investigation could potentially land some people in prison for a long time…
    (..Or conversely not one for even a single day!)

  99. maggie0987 says:

    This quote from NYT – ‘Jack is as straight a shooter as you can get in the F.B.I.,” Asha Rangappa, a former F.B.I. agent, said of Mr. Eckenrode, a friend. “It’s the first reassuring thing I’ve heard about this review.” (Read Full Article)’ –
    these people are delusional!

    • vladdy says:

      As soon as I read anything like that, I think that both the person speaking and the person being spoken about are crooked.

  100. LULU says:

    About those Mifsud blackberries, information that was in plain sight:
    1. Gen. Flynn case – the Mifsud Blackberry phones
    [THREAD]
    the two Blackberry phones that were given to Mifsud did not have an Italian SIM.
    . the two Mifsud phones had a British SIM.
    BOTH.
    how do we know?
    3. from the ICCID of the SIM cards.
    the ICCID #1 is 89441000302074582859
    the ICCID #2 is 89441000300487623120
    (info from the Court Document)

    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1185488360959291393.html.

    • LULU says:

      SORRY. Missed this at end of tweet above:
      4. The Mifsud Blackberries both had a 894410003… SIM.
      the 44 after 89 identifies UK.
      the 894410 identifies Vodafone UK as the service provider.
      5. Mifsud blackberries had a British SIM?
      hmmm…

  101. Dixie T says:

    Does this mean that John Durham picked a LEAKER, intentionally to be on is team? Or does it mean John Durham doesn’t know he has a LEAKER on his team???

  102. Dixie T says:

    Does this mean that John Durham picked a LEAKER, intentionally to be on is team? Or does it mean John Durham doesn’t know he has a LEAKER on his team???

  103. dwpender says:

    Sundance could probably get more subscribers than the NYT if he put out a daily — “The New York Times Annotated” — interlacing their anti-Trump “news” stories with his insightful commentary.

  104. UR says:

    FWIW – Second paragraph, third sentence… “principals”, not “principles”

  105. roddrepub says:

    which Mr. Trump and his allies have attacked without evidence as a plot by law enforcement and intelligence officials to prevent him from winning the 2016 election.
    Without evidence? These people are crazy. I sure hope they get what’s coming their way!

  106. Ned Zeppelin says:

    Great article. Thanks SD!

  107. foodog says:

    Watch the connections between congressional staffers and media, and outside consultants like DiFis Daniel Jones- who left to form his own dirt digging media entity, at the same time as DiFi resigned from the SSCI. This is the guy who is DiFi’s cutout for dealing with Christoper Steele, Warner at SSCI, and various Obama plants inside and out of the Deep State, and FBI 7th floor of HQ.
    Remember the wacky computer geek who threatened to dox opponents- and the connection to the law firm recommended to represent Christine Blasey Ford- and the Kill Kav hit job, and the conspired Narrative on Covington Kids?
    Now look at the lefty media, including social media in Silicon Valley.
    and finally- the deep money.
    Including the PLA…

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