The Media Intentionally Mislead Americans on Trump’s Huawei Position…

With President Donald Trump making massive strides toward peace and stability surrounding North Korea, the media cannot accept -nor allow- the common sense solutions to succeed.  President Trump is clearly perceived as a risk because his success highlights just how useless and manipulative a professional political class of consultants, advisors and DC think-tanks really are.

The U.S. media are desperate to find something to criticize and openly cheering for failure, so long as it provides fuel for their anti-Trump narrative.  It is stunning to watch against the backdrop of President Trump cutting the Gordian knot known as North Korea.

Perhaps by training, by habit or by unintended consequence, the DC proletariat have developed a system for themselves where the process itself as the end result.  This allows them to wax philosophically about problems; but it is within the discussion of the problem itself where their industry exists.  Solutions are not wanted because that stops the process.

DC journalism has evolved into reveling about the never ending process and, as a consequence, media completely ignore the end point, miss the bottom line, don’t actually SEE the subject matter, and never actually attempt to discover solutions.

If you watch this nonsense long enough you realize those inside the industrial media complex avoid the subject matter deliberately; because if they get their heads around it and nail it home, they won’t have anything to talk about – they will have exhausted their stash.

As part of their unspoken strategy when they encounter a solution driven approach, the media (writ large) fall back on the Gruber Principle: relying on “the stupidity of the American voter” not to understand how the lies and talking points are being distributed.

Today’s example surrounds President Trump and the ongoing negotiations with China.  Into this dynamic Huawei Technologies Co. Ltd surfaces as an entity on the U.S. Commerce Dept. restricted “Entity List” on May 16, 2019.

On May 20th, 2019, Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross announced the U.S. Dept. of Commerce, Bureau of Industry and Security, would be issuing Temporary General License (TGL) permits for U.S. business interests who wish to engage in commercial exchanges with Huawei.

The Commerce Department reviews each request, outlines what products can be exchanged, and restricts the company to a transaction of product approved by the license.  Each license lasts 90-days.

“The Temporary General License grants operators time to make other arrangements and the Department space to determine the appropriate long term measures for Americans and foreign telecommunications providers that currently rely on Huawei equipment for critical services,” said Secretary of Commerce Wilbur Ross. “In short, this license will allow operations to continue for existing Huawei mobile phone users and rural broadband networks.”  (link)

Additionally, with the exception of the transactions explicitly authorized by the Temporary General License, any exports, reexports, or in country transfers of items subject to the Export Administration Regulation (EAR) will continue to require a special license granted after a review by the Bureau of Industry and Security (BIS) under a presumption of denial.

Under the new regulations any company wishing to engage in a commercial transaction with Huawei has to apply and gain pre-approval from the U.S. Commerce Department.  Hence, the issuance of a 90-day license.  Any product or service not approved by the license is not allowed to be exchanged.

This process began on May 20th and still exists today.  This process is what President Trump was referencing when he announced the U.S. and China would restart trade negotiations as it related to Huawei.  Specifically when the president said: “Ross will evaluate each request”.

Nothing can be purchased from, or sold to, Huawei Technologies Co. Ltd and/or its sixty-eight non-U.S. affiliates, without getting permission from the U.S. commerce department.  Nothing in the agreement between President Trump and Chinese Chairman Xi Jinping changes that process.


If Beijing was not going to accept the closed chapters of the prior negotiation; a position they previously rebuked; then there would be no starting point between the Chinese and U.S. teams.  We don’t like to make too many assumptions, but common sense would indicate the agreements between all parties, prior to the collapse, is now the agreed starting point.

If accurate (obviously details to be identified later) this would indicate that the hawks in Beijing, those who formerly balked, have now retreated from their antagonistic position toward the agreement negotiated by Liu He.

It is likely they saw growing ramifications and consequences over the past 30+ days.  In essence, after getting a taste of what was coming, Beijing saw a cycle of continual collapse as their future; they had no option but to try and stop the downward spiral.

This internal outlook, overlaying their historic zero-sum perspective, would make sense given the latest developments; party because the reality of an increasingly losing position was their new baseline. A cessation of further damage was their best scenario.

Summary: Trump forced Beijing to see less-loss as the better loss.

However, as noted in the attitude of President Trump, he retains the larger tariff level despite China’s re-engagement.  Trump has allowed the restart itself to be the face-saving Xi needed, yet he retains the prior tariff gains.   Team Trump yielded nothing back.

Do not take this dynamic lightly.  China has never negotiated for, nor accepted, less-loss before.  Understanding this is new ground for them we can only imagine the anxiety within internal discussions.  Vice-Premier Liu He cannot turn to the Beijing Hawks and say: ‘I told you so’. He can only start again and hope the same outcome does not repeat.

Both teams know the prior closed chapters were negotiated in good faith by Liu He, Robert Lightizer and Mnuchin.  It wasn’t the U.S. who walked away from prior commitments. Therefore it makes additional sense for Chairman Xi to offer the Ag purchases as a show of good faith; and, in turn, President Trump gives the optics of compromise on high-tech.

Returning to the original point of collapse, the stickler point was/is the enforcement mechanism if China cheats.  This is where Lighthizer had built sector-by-sector, product-by-product, escalating and countervailing tariffs into the compliance chapters.

Unlike traditional trade agreements with one enforcement chapter that encompasses all of the sectors within the aggregate agreement, Bob Lighthizer built specific enforcement mechanisms into each sector.  Essentially, each product had it’s own compliance requirements unique to the sector of trade.

That multi-layered compliance is where China recoiled because they saw the U.S. as having ultimate decision-making about whether the rules were being followed.  However, that construct was/is the unidirectional price Lighthizer was applying due to the history of Chinese duplicity and cheating.

Any U.S. company (or U.S. entity) harmed by Chinese trade practices (ie. ‘cheating‘, ‘theft’, ‘coercion’, etc.) would have a set of enforcement provisions to protect their interests specific to their unique sector inside the agreement.  The scale of this approach is rather overwhelming to consider; however, as Lighthizer told congress this is the only way to insure compliance and protect very diverse U.S. trade interests.

You have to write the agreement while predicting the other party will attempt to lie, cheat and steal; and they will do so with the sanctioning of the communist government.

Lost in all of the discussions by western media is the fact that no-one has ever attempted to structure a comprehensive and enforceable trade agreement with China before.  What the U.S. team is attempting will be the road-map for all other nations who will likely write similar agreements of their own.

Writing a trade agreement between a free-market (USA) and a controlled-market (China) is where the challenge lies.  One of the inherent issues will always be how the free-market system can hold the controlled-market system accountable if they cheat.

Given the controlled-market’s governmental support for the cheaters, the accountability will naturally have to come from outside the system.   It remains to be seen if it can be done.

Arguably President Trump has a disposition that he doesn’t see how a deal is possible. However, Trump is willing to allow Lighthizer, who really is brilliant (along with Secretary Mnuchin and Secretary Ross), plenty of space to approach this problem with unique solutions.

As President Trump just said: “The quality of the transaction is far more important to me than speed. I am in no hurry.”

The tariffs will continue until behavior improves.

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127 Responses to The Media Intentionally Mislead Americans on Trump’s Huawei Position…

  1. ristvan says:

    I wrote a previous comment on how Kudlow had to correct the Rinos on Hauwei.

    Hauwei is two things:
    1. Aglobal telecomm equipment behemoth that got there thru IPR theft (stealing up to 4G allowed most engineering to focus on 5G, grossly unfair), and a backdoor security threat. Xi and PDJT just agreed in Osaka to leave those difficult issues for last, after the rest of a China trade deal is settled (or never, if not settled). So the ban on Hauwei equipment remains until then.

    2. China’s main telecomms equipment supplier. A US components sales ban would be a death sentence, since there is much (hw) stuff not available except from US based suppliers. Xi could not have that, so PDJT ‘relented’. Good for Xi negotiation optics at Politbureau, and good for US component supplier sales. Yet in reality PDJT has conceded nothing on the real #1 issues.

    Sad that even RINOs could not figure such a simple thing out. The swamp is increasingly looking to be just reflexively stupid.

    Liked by 40 people

    • SAM-TruthFreedomLiberty says:

      And as Ross is deciding by case basis and within a short timeframe Team Trump can react fast. If China is nice then approval of the cases will be much faster..
      Training the Panda/Dragon to behave.

      Liked by 14 people

    • railer says:

      I think the RINOs have it figured out alright… they just like having Chicom cash flowing into their pockets… McConnell especially.

      Liked by 11 people

      • At this point, I cannot imagine just what the hell it’s going to take to replace the word stupid with the word CORRUPT when it comes to “our” CORRUPT political puppets.

        CORRUPT because globalist puppets of UniParty infamy.

        Get’em OUT!!!

        Liked by 12 people

    • evergreen says:

      Leads to the question I have had for a while: how is it that the dems cannot see that Trump is their lifeline, if only they would grab ahold?

      By signing up to support Trump’s policies, which are largely in line with traditional dem positions, they could cement for a goodly period of time a solid voting block of dem Trump supporters, see to the needs of their constituents, and partake of the fruits and the electoral glory of widespread economic growth.

      Liked by 1 person

      • G. Willikers says:

        The Democrat Party of 2019 is not JFK’s Democrat Party. The Blue Dogs (centrists) are a small faction today and the socialists and red communist faction took over because that’s what communists do – they wait until someone else builds something and they move in to steal it, often with the help of useful idiots.

        Today’s dem politicians are obsessed with Lawfare and need to get the Bad Orange Man out before he can appoint any more Supreme Court Justices or tear down the mass surveillance state they’ve managed to build to get Compromat on their political enemies.

        Liked by 13 people

      • The international banksters keep these evil dems in power to destroy America, not to take care of constituents needs or partake of the fruits of electoral glory of widespread economic growth. Hell, the so-called “federal reserve” (it’s neither of those labels) is in place to steal from the people and make sure any economic growth is followed up with mass theft and subsequent recession/depression.


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    • Dutchman says:

      So, we (US GOV.) Will allow you to BUY parts from us, that you will then put in equipment, that no one (other than yourselves) is gonna want (as we will not buy, and will discourage anyone ELSE from buyin.).

      As long as its not “poprietary” or Natl. Sec
      , SURE we’ll sell it to you,…WHY NOT?

      PDJT gave NOTHING, nor should he.
      The psychology is AS important as the “trade”, or else could say is a vitally important aspect OF “trade”.

      No totalitarian dictatorship, collectivist or not, can APPEAR ‘weak’. Its ALL about appearance. Thats WHY Tienamen Square. PDJT is making Xi and CCP appear ‘weak’.

      That is a ‘death sentence’ for ANY dictatorship. USSR withdrawing from afganistan (showing weakness)
      preceeded the Velvet Revolution which presaged the wall coming down, etc.

      Liked by 15 people

      • USTerminator says:

        Remember, Huawei is huge conglomerate. They make many things beside telecom gears, even though that is their biggest. What’s the point of blocking them to make android phones, PCs, …. some other Chinese companies will take their place and screwing US companies that sells components to Huawei. President Trump wants to block Huawei 5G to sell in US and US allies. Also blocking sell State of the Art semiconductor equipment to Huawei or any Chinese companies so that China can not develop advanced chips which will be required for China 2025. I only start worrying if China is allowed to buy Semi equipment but I doubt that it will happen.

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      • Will Hunt says:

        Excellent point and one that could be used to explain why the democrats will never concede that Trump has done anything good. It shows the fragility of their grip and the weakness of their position. It is their death sentence


        • Dutchman says:

          Yes, the Uniparty is just the U.S. chapter of the CCP, same tactics and goals and fortunately same inability to effectively counter PDJT.

          Same limited playbook, and inability to grasp their plan not working (bloody minded stubborness).


    • ms Idaho says:

      Thank you for posting – like


    • David A says:

      Excellent post by Sundance and comment. This is a bit puzzling to me – “Vice-Premier Liu He cannot turn to the Beijing Hawks and say: ‘I told you so’. He can only start again and hope the same outcome does not repeat.”

      My understanding is that by reinstating Liu He, China effectively acknowledged that Liu He was right.

      Also, the relaxation of the death hold on Hauwei was, to my understanding, a real concession that cost the US nothing. The grip can be tightened at will.

      With Presidents Trump’s move to liberation of NK ( will history see it that way) and the fatal element of the TIME factor of US economic pressure on China, ( The longer sanctions stay the more the silk road dissolves) China is in a time squeeze of permanent harm – an economic stroke if you will; where some damage is permanent.

      President Trump can still offer carrots. Truly China can prosper with an economic revival in NK.
      A good bouncer always leaves a beloved and client a way out.

      Liked by 2 people

      • David A says:

        Ha, auto incorrect turned belligerent into beloved. LOL
        an accidental Trumpism, ” The beautiful Nellie Ohr.

        Liked by 1 person

      • Neill says:

        The Chinese press will quote the Western anti-Trump press ad nausem about how Trump caved, thereby easing domestic pressure on Xi. Which is exactly what Trump intended, and the negotiations stay on track. A big thank you to the unwitting Western media playing checkers, while Trump plays 3D chess.


      • ATheoK says:

        “David A says: June 30, 2019 at 5:48 pm

        My understanding is that by reinstating Liu He, China effectively acknowledged that Liu He was right.”

        Liu He’s reinstatement is because he is a face with which America’s negotiators are familiar and comfortable.
        From Liu He’s downfall until his reinstatement, Liu He was reoriented and reprogrammed. If China was not happy with Liu He’s reprogramming, Liu He would have disappeared from American radar.

        China could have easily accepted the agreements Liu He negotiated while positioning for further negotiations.
        China did not. China was actively trying to erase the negotiated agreements, but President Trump did not cave and activated tariffs.
        Trump’s aces in hiding is that he has already identified far more tariffs ready for implementation.

        China, only allows renewed trade negotiations to use the previous negotiations as a starting point, leaving the negotiated agreements themselves unacknowledged and in limbo.

        Right now, China is akin to a bunkum artist moving walnut shells while challenging people to bet cash about where the pea resides.
        A new reoriented revitalized reprogrammed Liu He returns as the new shell game pitchman selling hidden pea location.

        For decades, America’s negotiators have approached their responsibilities as mediators. They do not “negotiate” a trade position so much as they mediate a “Win-Win” agreement position.
        All too often mediators approach every mediation as both sides have equal rights to down the middle agreement. No matter, how lopsided the situation actually is.

        China just tried to reset the negotiations as a new mediation. A trick that have worked with every prior administration during the 20th and 21st Centuries.

        President Trump and his trade negotiators are still approaching Trade with China from a root structural problem, while ignoring shell game barker hidden peas and China’s attempts to restart negotiations as “new mediations”.


    • Selling components to Huawei which cannot be purchased elsewhere means PDJT has Huawei and subsequently Xi by the cahones.

      Better than shutting them down completely as PDTJ will retain leverage over Huawei and subsequently Xi.

      Pillsbury was on Maria (after the 20 min long Ryan BS) saying that a mistake of the past was the US killing off ZTE.

      Liked by 2 people

    • RobInPA says:

      Great analysis! Thank you.

      The ‘swamp’ creatures (including the referenced rino’s) are primordial driven parasites who only know how to instinctively feed themselves. This is what drives them. They are neither stupid or smart, they are self-serving and live of off the turgid filth of the swamp in total disregard to what would benefit our Nation and its good citizens.


    • RLTW says:

      Xi is a Commie punk. If President Trump cuts off access to our economy and innovation Communist China will shrivel up and die within months. So will the rest of the socialist world that we have been subsidizing since the end of WW II.

      Socialism in the USA will be dead by the end of President Trump’s second term. Global socialism will be dead by the end of Don Jr’s second term. Be afraid you liberal freaks. Be very afraid!

      Liked by 1 person

  2. HBD says:

    I’ve practically ignored the national news folks. Watch local news and forget the fake political news.

    Liked by 8 people

    • jbt says:

      [Implied…get the critical news on The Conservative Treehouse? 😉

      Liked by 4 people

      • jdintx says:

        Though not as clued in as many readers,I’ve learned so much here I no longer bother with other sites when it comes to national security issues. Thank you Sundance for my continuing education.

        Liked by 6 people

    • Jederman says:

      Same here but it’s a defensive reaction, the problem remains. The national “news” operations are the enemy of the American people. They’re great at churning a narrative and selectively reporting stories, but there is no value added for the citizen.

      The country gets the same mental/cerebral reaction from the “news” organizations as the body gets from a steady diet of junk food. Terminal glide, and living a lazy, stupid, misguided life along the way.


  3. ozymandiasssss says:

    I wonder if Apple announcing a new Chinese plant had anything to do with it


    • SHV says:

      I don’t think there is a new plant….Apple is moving the new Mac Pro assembly to a Quanta Computer, Inc. (a Taiwanese company) existing mainland China facility. Quanta already makes the Apple Watch, MacBook Air, MacBook Pro. Seems like about 4 Taiwanese companies make most “brand name” computers. Quanta has 7 plants, employs 70,000 people. The main Shanghai plant has 30,000 employees.

      Liked by 5 people

  4. Even Maria Bartiromo got this wrong.

    Liked by 1 person

  5. Mark L. says:

    Brilliant engaging reporting!
    This only works if honest American bureaucrats adhere to the mutual agreements. Who in the previous 45 years would follow an agreement? It’s a mere opportunity for ChaChing.
    Biden / HRC are prime examples.

    Liked by 3 people

    • Perot Conservative says:

      Even the new USMCA can be renewed every 8 years, and possibly modified? Four years after Trump’s second term?


  6. MustangBlues says:

    Great insightful article by Sundance. We can avoid being Gruberized by professional misinformation specialists disguised and news talkers with this kind of knowledge.

    Liked by 6 people

  7. Esther says:

    SD, it wasn’t just the media now was it? Little Marco Traitor gave the dog whistle with a barrage of tweets THREATENING to push legislation to limit Trump’s presidential powers to give any relief to Huawei. As I said before, all the RHINO’s in congress never whispered a word about China until Trump shut down the Russia decoy and put the public’s full attention on the dangers. Rubio and the RHINO’s trying to undermine Trump’s skillful negotiations had better watch it, he and all the others who’ve lined their pockets with Chinese bribes to lobby, write laws to favor China, or simply look the other way. Hypocrisy is like hemlock, you made me forced to swallow it. Xi is NOT happy, and may come for his pound of flesh.

    Liked by 5 people

    • ristvan says:

      And that is why I publicly here dedicated my considerable means to primarying Marco.

      Liked by 11 people

      • Esther says:

        This maybe a dream given the short time frame, but all the RHINOs would be automatically primaried if Trump pulled a Nigel Farage and formed his own party. Would shake things up no end. But we’d have the type of representation we deserve and break the stranglehold on the UNIparty. Trump only needs to say the word. ALL his supporters would follow him. Then where would the backstabbing McConnel, Lindsey Graham, even Grassley and the rest of them be? We would take the best, and leave the rest in the swamp. Something has got to be done to clean out the stalls of elephant crap that plugs up congress working for WE THE PEOPLE. In fact, calling it THE PEOPLES’ PARTY may not be a bad idea, or THE CONSTITUTIONALISTS PARTY.

        Liked by 4 people

      • sickconservative says:

        Really politicians don’t have a clue to what negotiations are.


        • Will Hunt says:

          Hence the name politicians….they are not competitors. In a competitive scenario there must be a winner and loser. This is anathematic in politics.


      • kp says:


        I would never endorse anyone that operates contrary to our Heavenly Father…

        God speed, ristvan, God speed!

        2nd John 1:11 “For he that biddeth him God speed is a partaker of his evil deeds.”


  8. 55praises says:

    I would appreciate input on a good book to read in order to understand the Korean conflict from it’s inception. TYIA


    • Jase says:

      David Halberstam’s Long Cold Winter goes into some depth, with reasonably comprehensive background.

      Liked by 1 person

      • MNcarrypermitholder says:

        I think you mean The Coldest Winter: America and the Korean War.

        I seem to recall Jerry Pournelle recommending This Kind of War by Fehrenbach, but that might be more of a military history than what 55praises was looking for.

        Liked by 1 person

    • CorwinAmber says:

      Robert Leckie’s “Conflict: The History of the Korean War” is a classic…I used to read it on my trips to South Korea over the years. I could knock it off on a 12 hour flight. Excellent read, excellent author IMHO


  9. sundance says:

    Liked by 40 people

    • railer says:

      It will take on meaning when Trump decides to give it meaning… after North Korea takes positive, verifiable steps to denuclearize, and Trump goes to the UN and gives a speech calling for them to relax sanctions.

      ’til that day, the UN is a waste of oxygen.

      Liked by 4 people

    • Esther says:

      Wouldn’t quite phrase the UN as pointless, their mandate was always to bring in the New World Order of globalism. So the more Trump exposes the shams, cons an hoaxes, the more obvious it is that the UN is a tool set in place by globalist, and therefore it works AGAINST nation states, and individual citizens of those states. It is completely against national soverienty and works towards the redistribution of America’s wealth and standing. That organization is so demonically evil, that some years back there was an incident where a federal employee got a glimpse of some paperwork of the UN’s plans for America and the rest of the world, and was so utterly despondent and what he discovered, he wrote a suicide not in that regard, and went across the street to the park and shot himself.
      The public never got to learn the full contents of his suicide note, which we were told via leaks was a warning to the public of the horrors planned for the population and the methods and systems of how they will achieve it. The UN police and security forces play a big role in the NWO culling the world’s population in the serfdom.

      Liked by 7 people

      • Mankind, in general, has a YUGE “head in sand” problem.

        Liked by 3 people

      • Daniel says:

        The point and purpose of the UN isn’t about globalism. But with the natural tendency of people to want to justify and expand their own power, it is a foregone conclusion that this is the direction they will go. There are so many other things which reflect this tendency and it is not at all new. The US constitution was written by people who recognized this very same tendency roughly 250 years ago. The three branches were set up to prevent too much erosion. It has worked for an absurdly successful amount of time if you think about it. With hundreds of years of attempts to destroy this country and the constitution, they both remain! Though unquestionably less free than intended, we still have a fighting chance to keep this thing going as Trump has proven in the most astounding way.

        Trump isn’t the answer. Trump is the beginning of the answer. We still need to look for how we need to shape a post-Trump USA.

        Liked by 3 people

        • Esther says:

          Daniel – You’re simply WRONG. The UN does not even bother to hide its agenda anymore. Its in plane sight with all of its “UN Agenda/Proposition” papers. It has had to change the years and make readjustments, but it is still hell bent on its globalist agenda. This is not in dispute. Go research it for yourself.

          Liked by 4 people

        • Esther says:


          Everyone is buying into the story that China is ahead of the US in 5G. Unfortunately, that’s not at all the case, and the truth is even more alarming. A lbig lie peppered with a little truth pulls the wool over people’s eyes. China’s technology for 5G was created by American companies. Yes, our top tech companies gave China this technology. The spying on citizens technology was and is American companies, who are also implementing that same technology here – facial recognition, finger print scans on cell phones, citizen scoring and censorship being currently implemented by Twitter, Facebook, Youtube etc. One of the most dangerous is the Apple watch with heartbeat technology. If people only knew the real demonic purpose of the Apple technology in their watches. Its fascinating to see people rushing to support and pay their hard-earned money and volunteer to use the technology that was created to control and destroy them.

          How different is the USA from China when NSA is still collecting every bit of digital information on each individual though they were ordered to destroy it and claimed they had? We hear today in the news that instead of destroying it, they continued to add to it and collect even more information.

          There’s an article out today that our government has laser technology that can directly stop a persons heart from beating and do so remotely. Guess what? ITS APPLE TECHNOLOGY AND ITS IN ALL APPLE WATCHES. I’ve said repeatedly on this site, that there is a serious reason that Apple just decided to move its computer production to China when everyone else is moving away. Apple is as bad or worse than Huawei, except Apple targets the individual, while Huawei targets governments and businesses. Here is one article that may shed a little light, When you read it, remember that it is APPLE that actually built this technology.
          “DOD builds laser that IDs Remote Subjects by Their Heartbeat


    • Dutchman says:

      It (UN) HAS been pointless for many, many years,…kinda like Congress…PDJT’s actions are just pointing it out.

      Bolton, as U.N. Ambassador under Reagan, IIRC; They were threatening to move the U.N. out of U.S. and Bolton said “I’ll be standing on the dock, waving good-bye!”

      PDJT looked at U.N. building in NYC and said “SURE is “PRIME real eastate!”

      Liked by 10 people

      • Esther says:

        Yup, acres of Prime coveted NYC real estate where these mongrels pay not a cent in rent, not a cent in utilities, heating, parking NOTHING. Turkey would be glad to have it, and we’d be glad to give it.
        Hopefully by the end of Trump’s second term they will be pushed the hell out, and this property will be the renovated to make the TRUMP PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY. Let all these beggars take their anti-American behinds to make something really meaningful that will also be another monumental tourist attraction with droves of tourist who actually will be paying for stuff, while honoring the greatest President.

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    • Daniel says:

      “Solutions are not wanted because that stops the process.”

      This statement is concise and highly accurate. It describes so much of what is wrong with government. You could make almost every article written here have that title or subtitle and it wouldn’t be wrong.

      Perfectly stated.

      Liked by 11 people

      • Elric VIII says:

        It’s an honest-to-goodness perpetual motion machine.

        Liked by 3 people

        • Daniel says:

          It’s not. It’s a perpetually burning dumpster fire fueled by the spirit of the US people. That spirit has been dying at a quickening pace to the point that it is no longer absurd to imagine people considering the USA flag as offensive.

          Taking an objective and exhaustive look at all of the objectively wrong things happening now, it becomes easy to see how close to the end we really are right now. And despite how obviously close to the edge we are, most of the people you may talk to will simultaneously agree with you and remain apathetic about it.

          I work with such a person. While he’s perfectly willing to risk his life to save a baby in danger (or so he states) he’s simultaneously unwilling to do anything to help this country or its culture even if the only “effort” is in speaking about it.

          This is how much control the left has. We can’t even SPEAK without fear.

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          • Elric VIII says:

            True. It looks bad. Our saving grace will be the U.S. Military – and it’s millions of honorable veterans. We took an oath:

            “I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.” (Title 10, US Code; Act of 5 May 1960 replacing the wording first adopted in 1789, with amendment effective 5 October 1962).


      • A government is a living organism. Like every living thing its prime characteristic is a blind, unreasoned instinct to survive. You hit it, it will fight back.
        Robert A. Heinlein (Stranger in a Stange Land, 1961)

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      • coltlending says:

        Yes. And it’s akin to the shootings in places like Chicago that result in $258 million dollars a year in medical bills saving what is a majority of gang bangers from death from gunshot wounds.
        Also, many gun shot victims who are gangbangers are also in the USA illegally.

        If that $258 million wasn’t spent anually saving gangbangers there would be no need to employ a lot of medical, EMT and Police & consumption of medical supplies.

        That would mean a big decrease in payroll taxes.


        Crime pays

        Never let a crisis go to waste.

        Yes it’s sick.


    • FrankieZee says:

      Trump fights ECONOMIC WARS. He does not like wasting young American lives.

      Liked by 1 person

  10. Gregory Sherman says:

    “DC journalism has evolved into reveling about the never ending process and, as a consequence, media completely ignore the end point, miss the bottom line, don’t actually SEE the subject matter, and never actually attempt to discover solutions.”

    This – “completely ignore the end point, miss the bottom line, don’t actually SEE the subject matter, and never actually attempt to discover solutions” – also describes the Pentagon with such things as its almost 18 years, and still counting, in Afghanistan. In fact, it describes it almost to perfection.

    Liked by 5 people

    • littleanniefannie says:

      And the Southern Poverty Law Center, the go to radical group for all things Ray-cyst!


    • kp says:

      Gregory Sherman,

      The Pentagon, Congress, and the Deep State are proof positive, the theory of perpetual motion [in the wrong direction] in fact, is possible.


    • GB Bari says:

      Essentially, you can say that or something very similar about any government agency or organization of unelected personnel that seeks primarily to perpetuate its existence regardless of the continuing need for the organization’s mission.


  11. railer says:

    Yes, this an excellent outline. The media industrial complex isn’t here to inform, it’s here to make money any way they can, and they can be bought. Carlos Slim and Bezos ain’t buyin’ those media outlets for no good reason, they’re buying influence. Just a handful of companies control all broadcast media, and they’re all for sale.

    Informing us is the last thing the media cares about. They wants us to unthinkingly take the narcotic they put out, while they make cash from those who have reason to purchase influence.

    Liked by 9 people

  12. Orygun says:

    When we started trading with a closed market society I didn’t think it could possibly work but our country was hellbent on doing it. At the time I didn’t know everybody was on the payroll of CCP.
    Losing your country to make a buck to an American doesn’t sound like much of a deal but our corrupt politicians did it anyway.

    It will remain to be seen if we can put enough safeguards in the agreement to offset the complete totalitarian control of their production and market capabilities.


    • Daniel says:

      The first ones to do it only did it a little bit — not enough to destroy the country right? But the ones which follow do it too… and the ones who know it’s destroying the country justify if with “they did it before me and others are doing it too so if I don’t, it will not make any difference so why shouldn’t I?”

      That’s “the big club” or at least the politician side of it.

      Let’s roll the calendar back to when we stopped teaching our children about how wonderful the founders of this nation were. It’s the lack of patriotic spirit which has doomed this country.


      • The two highest achievements of the human mind are the twin concepts of “loyalty” and “duty.” Whenever these twin concepts fall into disrepute – get out of there fast! You may possibly save yourself, but it is too late to save that society. It is doomed.
        Robert A. Heinlein (Time Enough for Love, 1973)

        Liked by 1 person

        • Reloader says:

          “A wise man may need to leave his luggage more than once in the course of a long life.”
          Robert A. Heinlein (dunno which of his works)


  13. The USA’s Shadow Government & Western Enemediatainment Complex have been playing on Communist China’s ping pong team for more than half a century. Accept that reality and the unreal narrative they’ve maintained begins to make sense.

    As candidate Trump said “Nuts” to all that. As President, he’s been a game changer. He doesn’t play Small Ball: This is Rollerball, with no substitutions and no time limit. He’s taken everything the corporate titans have thrown at him, and is still standing–taller than ever.

    Liked by 1 person

  14. Pa Hermit says:

    The problem with previous administrations was the fact that they did the same things with China over and over and expecting different results. That is the true definition of insanity. That is what our political system had evolved into. It took a pure successful business man to change the direction we proceed. This derails the previous process and thus all this opposition to POTUS. It’s almost as if success was not the end product (which it wasn’t.) Lobbying got in the way of progress and that satisfied Congress! The MSM was happy to go along with opposition as it makes for good copy.

    Liked by 1 person

  15. Searkreb says:

    I don’t remember Cruz, Rubio, etc saying anything about Huawei before so why are they so concerned now?


    • Dutchman says:

      “Why huwei now”;
      IMHO, because its NOT about huwei, its about critisising PDJT, attempting to undermine him with his Republican supporters, by making it appear he ‘caved’, cause you know,..he’s ‘soft’on Conmunism, ..muh russia./s

      If McStain were still kicking, this would be his line. Rubio, McStain 2.0?

      Liked by 4 people

      • Esther says:

        Dutchman – you may remember that Rubio also visited a certain place with McStain and Graham and met with America’s most wanted terrorist. There are pics. And this happened about six months before McStain was ‘put to death’. Among other thing lot of congressman are deep into arms dealing. Partly why they are so upset with Trump selling arms legitimately to Saudi Arabia. Cuts into their profit margin. None of it is speculation, just don’t understand why Trump has not taken action except with McStain.


  16. starfcker says:

    “Trump has allowed the restart itself to be the face-saving Xi needed, yet he retains the prior tariff gains. Team Trump yielded nothing back.” It’s the equivalent in any kind of settlement negotiation of taking chips off the table. Most attorneys, and most parties in litigation always feel that the settlement should move towards the middle. I’ve always believed the party in the right should reduce any settlement the longer and more expensively negotiations go on. It’s a shock to the system, and you often find the other side clamoring to get back to an offer that they found insulting only a day or two previously. President Trump is the toughest in the business. You hear him say everyday, I don’t care if we get a deal or not, I’m fine with just collecting the tariffs. In China’s case, I believe he means it

    Liked by 4 people

  17. Perot Conservative says:

    Great developments this weekend.

    On Chris Wallinsky’s program, Larry Kudlow was asked about going back to the previous 90% figure / previous commitments / May period.

    The question is raised around 4:20; he seems non committal to our returning to the 90% stage. It was possibly raised again, later in the interview.

    I believe timing is a critical issue, markets, and leverage. Unwise for POTUS to be in limbo with all four of our top trading partners, while also ready to tariff Vietnam, India, and possibly the EU.

    USMCA ratification critical, followed by immediate ag purchases and progress with Japan. USMCA possibly 1-2 months out; Japan focused on July elections, and they don’t want to decouple ag from potential auto tariffs. (Canada and Australia reaping the benefits if TOP.) Could be sticky. Our position improves with USMCA ratified.

    Do we really want to build up our chief adversary, and their Military? And I just learned this AM via Gordan Chang that China, in 2017, required companies to spy on their behalf? Official doctrine.


    • Perot Conservative says:

      Edit: TOP = TPP


    • Dutchman says:

      p c,
      Not sure how we are building up our chief adversary, and their Military,…
      Unless there is an agreement (is that what you mean?)

      I don’t see there as BEING an agreement, long before we get to that question.

      I DO NOT ‘see’ Xi agreeing to any agreement PDJT would insist on, or vice versa. Hence, not an issue (granted) if I and some others (BKR, ghost, etc.IIRC)
      are correct in this view.


      • Perot Conservative says:

        The explanation has been we built up China via one-way, unfair trading relationships. $100B, $200B, now $500B per year!

        Plus product dumping; currency manipulation; IP theft; and forced technology transfers. Then, add the Devil’s whip cream – FENTANYL! Between NAFTA and China, devastating. What Britain did to the Chinese?

        WTO and most favored nation aided all this, and now we have the South China Sea, China building bases all over the world, and in some cases openly threatening us.

        Liked by 1 person

        • Dutchman says:

          So, we systematically reverse the flow. We TAKE BACK Billions of $, FROM China, the jobs come back and they can no longer fund their hegemonic and military ambitions.

          They owe us that $, so ‘no hurry’cause we got TARIFFS, lets bleed em dry! And, extra $ cause,we,aren’t gonna send THEM fentanyl, so as a ‘fine’we take ‘extra’$.


  18. Raptors2020 says:

    Sundance’s “Professional Political Class” is best exemplified by the UN bureaucrats’ treatment of the Palestinians . These lost souls have become the UN’s mascots, and many people have observed a lassitude in solving the problem. Another example would be the American underclass of multi-generational welfare recipients, and their permanent plantation slave attachment to the Democrats and to the bureaucracy (mostly Democrats, of course).

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  19. Reloader says:

    So when the NYT reported that “tech companies sidestep Trump and work around ban” citing “Qualcomm, Micron, Intel and others” still selling to Huawei (Nyaa, Nyaa, OrangeManBad)… that was COMPLETELY FAKE NEWS?? Because these firms were given Temporary General License grants for very good reasons?

    I can’t believe the media lied to us. /s


    • ristvan says:

      You just learned something. But look carefully at the timestamps. The ommerce special Hauwei sales licenses were granted after, not before, PDJT denounced Hauwei.
      This whole thing was PDJT Apprentice. Forgive Xi in private, then make him look BIG after in public. Genius, positioning Xi as strong to his own Politbureau when in reality not.

      Liked by 6 people

  20. The Gipper Lives says:

    “The Media Intentionally Mislead Americans on Trump’s Huawei Position…”

    Why should his Huawei Position be treated any different than all his other positions?

    Liked by 2 people

    • GB Bari says:

      Correct. The MSM are all “equal opportunity liars.”
      They lie about ALL of PDJT’s positions and achievements, IMO (I cannot think of any PDJT position or achievement about which the MSM has been entirely and factually honest, although I may have forgotten one.)


  21. trishinsouthernillinois says:

    For those who haven’t read the above post by Sundance, the following excerpt is what totally stood out for me after reading the entire article:

    “…You have to write the agreement while predicting the other party will attempt to lie, cheat and steal; and they will do so with the sanctioning of the communist government.

    Lost in all of the discussions by western media is the fact that no-one has ever attempted to structure a comprehensive and enforceable trade agreement with China before. What the U.S. team is attempting will be the road-map for all other nations who will likely write similar agreements of their own…”

    WOW! “…road map for ALL other nations…”

    Liked by 5 people

    • All Too Much says:

      That is one of the things Xi fears.
      But no one except the US has the Trump economic leverage to pull it off.

      Liked by 3 people

    • kp says:


      It’s implied and understood, “the other party” means the ‘party’ one is negotiating with.

      And yet nowadays, it could just as easily mean the Democrat party.

      Liked by 1 person

    • At this point, the TRADE-DEAL ROADMAP is in place.

      No reason not to replicate it with REAL Trading Partners today.

      Leaves China no wiggle room to Seal the Deal or TRIGGER more TARIFFS and LOSE MFN STATUS.

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  22. SPECULATION: POTUS could IMPOSE REPARATIONS on Huawei for IP Theft by
    • AUTHORIZING a USA Consortium to DUPLICATE Huawei’s 5g TECHNOLOGY

    The BEST resolution for IP Theft is returning the favor on the SAME PERP to RECOVER DAMAGES.

    Liked by 3 people

  23. pyromancer76 says:

    WOW! Two parts to the new “agreements/understandings” – or two halves to the whole ball of wax.

    1. China – no more cheating, stealing, invading by surepticious means: “Any U.S. company (or U.S. entity) harmed by Chinese trade practices (ie. ‘cheating‘, ‘theft’, ‘coercion’, etc.)…”.

    2. Other nations of the world – “new road map” for maintaining your sovereignty.

    Great summary as usual, Sundance.

    I’m still waiting to see a tell-tale inflection point indicating No Going Back on this creation of a New President Trump American and World Era. How will the big money shift become noticeable?

    Will it be money for a new “truthful” major media corporation? Will it be the end of monopolies of the internet, e.g., Google, Twitter, YouTube, etc.? Will it be the end of voter fraud coming up for 2020 election? Will it be a certain “mass” of manufacturing industries?” How will the big money shift become noticeable?

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  24. Esther says:

    Mexico seems to be continuing its duplicity. They claim to be working with Trump, but with all the soldiers and security they claim to have sent to the two borders, 6,000 to the South and 16,000 to the Northern border, the invaders have only been curbed by a paltry 25% drop off in illegal crossings in the month of June.
    That seems hardly sufficient for them to avoid being hit with tariffs. Wonder what Little Marco will say about actions by Trump to bring Mexico to heel in order to secure our border and protect our national security. They think the public is dumb and stupid. If Marco Rubio and the rest of the leeches in congress really cared about our national security, they would not just be pushing to pass laws with regards China, but the good-for-nothings elected to represent this Country’s interest would be ringing alarm bells at how Mexico continues to facilitate illegals to use their country as a bridge to illegally enter the USA. Talk about hypocrisy!!!

    The help with bussing the illegals to our border is still fully operational. The NGO’s that provide the unwashed begging freeloaders are still freely operating in Mexico and assisting the invaders. And the Mexicans themselves are also still providing aid and comfort. This is a game the Mexican government is playing, giving a lot of lip service but do just the opposite. I pray that when 45 days are up Mexico will be smacked in the face with a 25% tariff. They need to learn not to try to make a monkey out of our President, and hardworking Americans.

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  25. TwoLaine says:

    “The Media Intentionally Mislead Americans”

    Say it isn’t so…

    Add it to the list.


  26. Zippy says:

    In Chinese culture, theft is accepted and even admired. It is punished by the Chicom government which is itself massively corrupt only if it makes the headlines like the killer baby formula. There’s a westerner who travels China that produced a YouTube video about how he and a friend have nearly been killed by poisonous counterfeit “name brand” beers, wines, and liquors bought in seemingly very reputable establishments.

    So, they’ll even gladly poison their own to make a few bucks. It has recently been PROVED that THEY are the “mysterious” source of fluorocarbon gasses banned worldwide because they destroy the ozone layer even though China is part of that agreement. “But their government didn’t know.” Doubtful, but even if they didn’t, what does that say about the Chinese government’s ability to detect and punish any violations of an agreement with the US or, in this case, the world?

    Their mostly GOVERNMENT-OWNED economy DEPENDS upon “environmental arbitrage” (they’ll always be cheaper because they dump anything anywhere, including their rivers which lead to the ocean or directly into the oceans to share with everyone who shares a shore with their sewers), cheap labor, and unpunished intellectual property theft. If you think the Deep State here which was has made all of the those always (and forever will be) “just around the corner” consequences for the SpyGate perps are powerful, LOL, I’m sure they’re absolutely NOTHING compared to the murderous, human organ harvesting, Tienanmen Square massacring, Chinese Communist Party (CCP). Since, as pointed out at a link below, most of their largest industries are owned by the incredibly corrupt CCP government, how much trust can be placed in ANY agreement they sign.

    Trump should trust them as far as he can throw one of their morbidly obese Chinese Communist Party fat cats. The ONLY way we will EVER prevail with the CRIMINALS in the CCP will be to gradually implement HUGE tariffs on an increasing number of items from China with NO FURTHER negotiation of ANY kind and sure as hell no BACK STEPPING until they comply with EVERYTHING we demand or, PREFERABLY, they are pushed over the FINANCIAL CLIFF and the billion plus proles in China hang the Chicom fat cats from the nearest lamp post in a NATION-WIDE Tienanmen Square.

    Of course, our Deep/Corporate State will fight that tooth and nail and, if actually accomplished by some miracle, there will be negative economic effects here until we REESTABLISH OUR MANUFACTURING BASE sold out over many decades by the globalists. Even if there was no obstruction by the Deep/Corporate State, this simply will NOT be done for now because it would almost certainly trigger a LONG overdue recession just before a presidential election and the CHINESE DAMNED WELL KNOW THIS. Thus, the Chinese have a major incentive to agree to nothing of any substance before they find out whether a globalist will win the 2020 presidential election.

    So, any negotiations prior to the resolution of the 2020 presidential elections will be fruitless except for the political optics and, if Trump wins in 2020, there will NOT be any REAL headway anyway unless we take DRASTIC and PUNISHING measures against China and, literally, bring them to their KNEES because that is what it’s going to take. But, of course, our Deep/Corporate State will probably succeed in preventing that.

    To conclude, what absolutely NEEDS to be done will probably NEVER be done – absolutely D-E-S-T-R-O-Y China economically while we still can UNLESS they comply 100% with our demands in a verifiable way. Realistically, I think it will require their economic destruction just as it did with the Soviet Union.

    One of several studies:

    JOURNAL OF CHINESE ECONOMICS, 2014 Vol. 2. No. 2, pp 73-78
    Call for Copy – The Culture of Counterfeit in China
    by Ling Jiang

    Abstract: The aim of this paper is to deepen the understanding of Chinese counterfeit phenomenon by exploring the effect of culture. Counterfeit activities are shaped by Chinese historical, social and political reasons. Intellectual property rights protections don’t have an obvious presence on Chinese soil. The discussion of counterfeit consumer behavior research via the effect of culture is provided.

    Book: To Steal a Book Is an Elegant Offense: Intellectual Property Law in Chinese Civilization (Studies in East Asian Law, Harvard University)

    Book: China’s Great Wall of Debt: Shadow Banks, Ghost Cities, Massive Loans, and the End of the Chinese Miracle Hardcover – March 13, 2018 – Amazon 4.5 stars with 59 reviews [their vulnerability which MUST be ruthlessly exploited… but won’t be – Zippy]

    China’s Global 500 companies are bigger than ever and mostly state-owned

    Recent planted “lost wallet” return rate experiment by country. Note what country is at the bottom of the resulting chart. Who ya’ gonna’ trust?:


    • Zippy says:

      To summarize:

      1. There will be no NK nuke deal before the election – both China and NK want Trump gone in 2020, so they would never hand him that political feather in his cap, and they know #2 below won’t be done for now because it would almost certainly trigger a long overdue US recession just prior to a presidential ejection. Further, without ruthless follow through on #2, there won’t be a denuclearization deal even after the 2020 election even if Trump wins.

      2. The only way to have any chance of getting REAL concessions out of China (and NOT just on paper) is to play EXTREME hardball with them, something which our Deep/Corporate State will ruthlessly oppose.

      3. On another topic, there will NEVER be any SpyGate perps of any significance who will be sentenced to well-deserved imprisonment and actually serve it.

      I’m pretty confidant in all of those predictions.


  27. swissik says:

    I am no longer able to keep quiet about the following: the plural of RINO is RINOS, no apostrophe. Neither is there an H after the R. Can we all agree? Thanks.

    Liked by 1 person

    • Thank you, swissik, for bring this up!! When a person types “RHINOS”, I’m left to wonder if they actually know what they’re talking about, let alone if they know what the acronym even stands for.

      Seeing the use of an apostrophe before or after an ‘s’, in an attempt to make a noun plural, just hurts me. I speak and write four other languages, and I have a lot of empathy for those whose first language is not English. Heck, they have my admiration and I cut them some extra slack… But when native English speakers/writers make errors that a fourth grader knows not to, then, it’s just sad.


  28. Kay says:

    If Sundance’s Panda/Dragon theory is true re:Kim/Noko then turn everything around.
    North Korea generals are being paid by China/Xi to keep those nuke sites off any list given to the USA. Kim can’t give those out b/c they’re actually part of China’s/Xi’s arsenal. Kim is worried about eating his food without being poisoned. China pays the generals of NoKo. China keeps NoKo’s people starved. China runs those torture prisons. By paying the salaries of everyone in place. Its no wonder why Kim wants to get out from under China’s thumb but China can’t give up NoKo – having a western capitalistic society right at it’s southern border would be a magnet for people to leave China. China has mined the 45th Parallel of Korea to prevent people leaving for a capitalistic healthier free society. There is no way Kim comes out of this alive. Kim’s “wheezing” (per Tucker Carlson’s reporting that Kim is not a healthy man) is part of the problem. If Kim could actually get to the White House, he might actually cough up the locations of those nuclear sites China owns but as long as Kim stays in NoKo or on the peninsula he’s as much of a prisoner as Otto.


    • Kay says:

      I’d like to add that I’m a firm believer in Sundance’s theory regarding China/Xi – President Trump – rebalancing trade and how NoKo/Kim fits into it all.


  29. InAz says:

    After reading this, I want to run for Congress or Senate, so that I can put a monkey wrench in the corrupt Commie politicians dealings, where and when possible.
    When I was in college I wanted to run for Congress or Senate. Everyone kept saying that I did not have enough money etc etc etc.
    So I got talked out of it.

    I still don’t have money. And being a President Trump supporter I would not get RNC help.
    But I would sure like to try.

    Liked by 1 person

    • InAz– Go for it!! It’s never too late! I might suggest drawing on the path that your great, former governor, Jan Brewer, employed. She’d decided to run for school board, which is an excellent way to gain experience and see if you really like politics, all the while providing a valuable service to your area.

      But, Jan Brewer saw an opening in her local legislative district, and decided to run for State Representative instead of the School Board. Governor Brewer served in the Arizona House of Representatives for three years, then decided to run for the Arizona Senate. And, as an Arizonan yourself, you know the interesting story of how she became Governor!

      I predict that MAGA Republican Candidates are going to be hot commodities for the next several years. Good luck!!


  30. simicharmed says:

    What’s new? The “media” of this Nation is THE ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE!

    They are clearly a propaganda outlet for everything UN-American. A Democrat and/or Deep State entity galore…you choose.

    I do not even “pick-sides with these criminals in Congress….”reaching across the isle” is rather ridiculous and insulting to the intelligence of a logical society… Every one of these rascals who play this “political-party” game are LIARS! Uniparty is what every one of them are part of!

    Either way….this “process” eliminates the self-governed provisions of the US Constitution.


  31. WeThePeople2016 says:

    Add Gordon Chang to be one who pushed the “Trump back down” narrative as well. He was Mr. Negative over Trump’s visit with the Chinese Chairman Xi Jinping.


  32. tonytran2015 says:

    ” the DC proletariat have developed a system for themselves where the process itself as the end result.” is quite true.


  33. Bill says:

    I hope these Chip Companies supplying Huawei have implemented stringent anti-hacking protocols, because the Chinese now understand the level of threat to their theft more clearly. Hacking attempts will skyrocket between now and any future agreement……because actual R&D is much more expensive.


  34. Luz Maria Rodriguez says:

    IF the MSM deliberately misleads the American public in important matters as these, how are they NOT an enemy of the American public as well as the enemy of truth and being objective?
    Certainly, they do not serve the citizen well in this.


  35. Show Me says:

    Xi is the leverage Trump has to influence Kim Jong-Un. N. Korea likely will comply with Chinese requests, although even China doesn’t have veto power over Kim Jong-Un, but Kim Jong-Un will take Xi very seriously.
    The only way that Kim Jong-Un would be willing to denuclearize would be for Xi and the Chinese Communist Party to guarantee regime continuance, even if Kim Jong-Un surrenders his nuclear weapons.
    Trump might be able to influence Xi through a favorable trade agreement, although it would be a rough trade, a rough road, since the US would be giving up something in trade that China would like to have, since China is developing a total surveillance state on everyone in China, and possibly everyone in the world to some degree.
    N. Korea likely has a total surveillance state as well, although based on more archaic technology, even human spying with people on the ground.
    Still, if Kim Jong-Un gave up some degree of control of his nuclear weapons, even if it entailed some degree of monitoring by the Chinese, there might be some kind of agreement.
    I think even the Chinese are somewhat uncomfortable with Kim Jong-Un’s nuclear ambitions and would prefer he refrain from further testing, even if it meant he continues nuclear weapons development.
    If Kom Jong-Un continues threatening nuclear annihilation, likely other countries in the region such as Japan will develop a nuclear weapons capability if not engaging in an outright arms race.
    China already has two other countries on its borders, India and Pakistan, which have developed nuclear weapons. China and Pakistan are developing a fighter aircraft jointly, meanwhile, India is continuing an arms development relationship with Russia and is also developing a space launch capability.
    Probably there’s going to be some kind of agreement or at least an agreement for further negotiations to arise out of these meetings in which there was an appearance of a desire for some kind of negotiations, and likely business agreements but I have my doubts about any kind of treaties.


  36. grahampink says:

    The beatings will continue till the moral improves.


  37. Curt says:

    “As part of their unspoken strategy when they encounter a solution driven approach, the media (writ large) fall back on the Gruber Principle: relying on “the stupidity of the American voter” not to understand how the lies and talking points are being distributed.” AMEN CTH!


  38. Ospreyzone says:

    Huawei is only the tip of the iceberg. Spying and intellectual property theft are part of the Chinese fabric, which has been codified within their laws. The following is just part of the 2017 Chinese National Intelligence Law, which everyone should read in order to understand the paradigm these people have.

    Article 7 – “Any organization or citizen shall support, assist and cooperate with the state intelligence work in accordance with the law, and keep the secrets of the national intelligence work known to the public. The State protects individuals and organizations that support, assist and cooperate with national intelligence work.”
    Article 14 – “The state intelligence work organization shall carry out intelligence work according to law, and may require relevant organs, organizations and citizens to provide necessary support, assistance and cooperation.”

    Knowing this, how do we allow Chinese “students” to attend our top technical universities and conduct post-grad “studies” at our research institutions without abetting the malicious endeavors of the CCP? We have also allowed Chinese investors to gain ownership of large portions of our food, tech, media, appliance, and hospitality industries within the US. Is it just me, or are we missing the gorilla in the room here?


  39. Peter Skurkiss says:

    I hope your right about Trump and trade.


  40. islandpalmtrees says:

    Is the media unwillingness to accept -nor allow- the acceptance of a common sense approach still tied to the CIA?

    Liked by 1 person

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