Transcript of Michael Flynn Status Hearing – June 24th (full pdf)…

One of the reasons why the Flynn legal situation is so interesting is not really because of Flynn himself; but rather because the Flynn situation is a likely example of President Obama’s surveillance network in operation.

Tenuous legal theories (Logan Act) and obscure laws (technical FARA violations) appear to have been exploited by DOJ administration officials, in close ideological alignment with the Lawfare Group.  In association with overall Obama administration officials, the fellow travelers used the legal system to create a DC surveillance network.

At the 30,000 ft. level Obama’s surveillance network looks like this:

• White House identifies a target; •passes request to the DOJ National Security Division (middlemen); •who then use the auspices of possible FARA violations to pass the instructions to the FBI contractors; •who data-mine the NSA database.

•The FBI results are then passed back to the DOJ-NSD; •who weaponize the information for FISA applications (becomes legal cover); and •pass the authorized surveillance (spying) results back to the White House etc.

It’s a circle of surveillance activity that could encompass almost every politician in Washington DC as they network with foreign lobbyists and special interests.

Techno Fog was the first person to identify FARA violations as the tenuous legal basis for the DOJ-NSD to gain FISC authorized surveillance warrants. It makes sense.

Those warrants then permit surveillance and the unwitting targets can infect anyone they come into contact with.

Using this process unwitting targets would be carrying surveillance like an ebola virus, and the Obama administration would be monitoring almost everyone in Washington DC.

Throughout the weaponized process there’s an element of plausible deniability, and a tenuous legal justification to protect the participants. If questioned the first line of defense would be to assert National Security; and almost all of the activity would be considered “classified”.

Obviously the purposes and intents of the surveillance would be political. However, by using The Foreign Agent Registration Act (FARA), there’s a useful legal cover story. Exploiting the NSA database also ties in neatly to this process. The database is how the FBI would get the evidence for the DOJ-NSD FISA applications.

Restrictions on Title III 4th amendment privacy protections are worked-around by using Title-1 national security claims; and conveniently everything around FISA is classified.

It is not coincidental that Paul Manafort, Rick Gates, George Papadopoulos and Michael Flynn were all charged or threatened with FARA violations. Additionally, in the one known FISA application Carter Page was called an “agent of a foreign government”.

Extending the legal theory into action, the Special Counsel, and particularly DOJ prosecutor Andrew Weissmann, can be viewed as simply charging forward with a pre-existing process all the special counsel participants were familiar with.

Michael Flynn is a case-study in the exact type of target this process would be perfect to ensnare. [Explained Here] Now, whether what’s left of Flynn’s case is enough to drag this political surveillance system into the sunlight is yet to be seen. However, as explained, this is why Flynn’s case is so interesting.

That said, here’s the status hearing from yesterday:

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Here’s the details from last month when Techno Fog first started to see the FARA surveillance pattern within the Flynn case filings.

Read the Twitter THREAD HERE

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397 Responses to Transcript of Michael Flynn Status Hearing – June 24th (full pdf)…

  1. sundance says:

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    • destin326 says:

      Deeper and deeper. Curiouser and curiouser…

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      • Ralph Kramden says:

        Very… the Kyslyak connection is unsettling, to be sure. Flynn’s team is using it to support their claim of spying by the Hussein WH. But, if they are not truthful, those contacts indicate a very complex back story not at all flattering to General Flynn. For one, what if he was involved with the Turkish pipelines (bribery, extortion) or transporting fissionable yellow-cake to Iran?

        The end result from yesterday’s hearing was…nothing, more delay. Sydney Powell was granted more time to get up to speed, a reasonable request. So, again, we’ll see, but this story is well passed its “sell-by” date and is starting to smell.

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        • trialbytruth says:

          Hmmm

          Yeah that sell by date just when things really start to stink just wrap it up and toss it out.

          I don’t think so….. Dems gonna burn over this.

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          • One has to wonder, how many of the 30,000 deleted mails on Hillary’s server might contain spied information about opponents. After all, she did it back in ’94 when 900 FBI files of opponents were found in her White House, back then the FBI was already colluding with the Clintons.

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            • Murray Smith says:

              The HRC bathroom server and the DNC server plus attached computers could have been the home of the Hussein data base, if so its no wonder the FBI/DOJ/State protected it, it would be like Hoovers files multiplied a million times. It has to be somewhere and its BIG

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              • vikingmom says:

                Yep – how much did Seth Rich know and did he make any other copies of the info?

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              • Dutchman says:

                And, let us not forget the AwanDWS Laptop. Dirt on Congress, emails detailing bribe/corruption, sex assault claims paid off, etc.?

                It explains Gowdy, for sure with the investigate to exonerate Benghazi, F&F, etc.

                The whole RepubliCON/DeceptiCON scam.

                Recall Scweitzer saying in his research of Senate, only found ONE Senator out if 100 that he could not find evidence of corruption.
                1/100, let that soak in. And corruption makes a perfect opportunity for blackmail.

                Especially once you control the leadership. 4 people total. R & D leafership, in House and Senate.

                Control those 4, and you have the keys to the kingdom. First we allowed the obvious bribery to take place. Then, the blackmail followed.

                Burn down FBI headquarters? Maybe, but we really need to torch Congress, metaphoricalky speaking. And salt the earth, etc.

                All leads back to madam Clinton, a high ranking CCP membrr.

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              • Dutchman says:

                And, let us not forget the AwanDWS Laptop. Dirt on Congress, emails detailing bribe/corruption, sex assault claims paid off, etc.?

                It explains Gowdy, for sure with the investigate to exonerate Benghazi, F&F, etc.

                The whole RepubliCON/DeceptiCON scam.

                Recall Scweitzer saying in his research of Senate, only found ONE Senator out if 100 that he could not find evidence of corruption.
                1/100, let that soak in. And corruption makes a perfect opportunity for blackmail.

                Especially once you control the leadership. 4 people total. R & D leafership, in House and Senate.

                Control those 4, and you have the keys to the kingdom. First we allowed the obvious bribery to take place. Then, the blackmail followed.

                Burn down FBI headquarters? Maybe, but we really need to torch Congress, metaphoricalky speaking. And salt the earth, etc.

                All leads back to madam Clinton, a high ranking CCP membrr.

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                • Ralph Kramden says:

                  One of the great Truths of modern political history:
                  “In seeking the root of corruption, all roads lead to The Clintons.”

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          • mj_inOC says:

            Know it will happen at just the right time…

            Mordecai built gallows in Scripture, he was hanged there.

            God is still Sovereign. Trust Him!

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          • Not my intent, but there’s a backstory here that bears watching. I’m just wondering if the good general is not the guy we think he is. There’s a lot of potentially shady stuff in his past that requires sunlight.

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        • TarsTarkas says:

          Didn’t Jack Posobiec claim that Flynn was still working for DIA even after he was fired by Obama? And that was the reason he started working for Erdogan? Not just for a source of income, but to continue to gather intelligence?

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        • Please read this op ed by Gen Michael Flynn about his motives for trying to assist Turkey & its President, Recep Erdogan. I don’t read treason or self interest in it, at all. This is a man (Gen. Flynn) who profoundly opposes Obama Administration foreign policy towards Turkey. Read this … please. Then, what say you?

          https://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/foreign-policy/305021-our-ally-turkey-is-in-crisis-and-needs-our-support#.WCPhv1d4UUU.twitter

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          • It appears to me that the Obama Administration went after General Flynn because he knew the truth about their Middle East foreign policy, how radical and just plain wrong they were. Was Gen. Flynn a one man army fighting a war against these dangerous and destructive policies? Could be.

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            • mj_inOC says:

              Exactly!

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            • C says:

              That’s my takeaway. He was in the middle of what was becoming the biggest foreign policy blunder and corruption our country has seen. He made the fatal mistake of making himself a visible white hat. In that type of politics, you catch the shiv the second you smell of betraying the hidden agenda.

              My guess is is that he was a major link to the Trump campaign’s “understanding” of just how deep the rabbit hole went. He may have even felt safe at that point – not knowing he had been spied on long before (as part of another insurance policy). I’m sure DC is tripwired up at this point with a series of “insurance policies”

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          • GB Bari says:

            Very seriously convincing article, because the recent history cited by Gen. Flynn rings true in my memory. Flynn obviously has deadly serious enemies in the US – Obozo allies – who are devious in their disinformation campaign against him.

            While there may be yet more information that will shed objective light on all of Flynn’s efforts as well as his enemies’ strategies, I fall back to my most recent position of certainty: Anything sponsored by or connected to Obozo is highly suspect, and more than likely dishonest up to being criminally corrupt. While at the same time, no such history of doubt about General Flynn exists among patriotic white hats.

            IMHO. YMMV.

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            • Well stated, GB! This whole thing stinks to high heaven. I don’t trust any of them, from former President Obama on down. They abused & disrespected the hell out of traditional, hardworking, average Americans. I believe they had it in for General Flynn and went after him … and their enmity toward him started well before the Obama Administration.

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        • Esther says:

          Responding to Ralph K – Its disturbing that issues of Flynn’s team not being truthful are being raised. Where does that come from? i submit it is the taint of Judge Sullivan’s outburst that now has people speculating on the 33 year veteran General Flynn’s veracity. Ralph’s comment only underlines the prejudice Flynn has suffered due to judge Sullivan’s outburst. That lingering questioning by so many folks as to if Flynn and his team are lying exemplifies the harm done to Flynn’s reputation by the Sullivan It is what is called irreparable damage.

          Question: Would there even be a question or speculation about Flynn’s team being untruthful, and speculation that is ‘unflattering” to Gen Flynn absent Sulivan’s public outburst in the court?

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        • WSB says:

          So, we still do not know if Flynn is a white or black in reality.

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          • WSB, did you read the column he wrote for The Hill about his support of Turkey? Did you come away from it thinking this man vehemently disagrees with his boss, President Barack Hussein Obama? Because he blasted their anti-Erdogan policies. I think, after the work General Flynn did to win the Iraq War, he’s the one that made “the surge” ultimately a success; that he was FURIOUS that the Obama Administration was capitulating to the Muslim Brotherhood. General Flynn was outraged… that’s my take on it. Ergo…. he is a white hat who tried to move a mountain that he couldn’t move. What’s that saying about fighting a losing battle? President Obama’s Middle East policies were absolutely insane.

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            • WSB says:

              I completely agree. I only wonder what else has been hidden for so many years. Flynn’s job was not the most clear cut, being top spook.

              Personally, the fact that his family is speaking out gives hope.

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      • Murray Smith says:

        this activity over 6-7 years would generate a gargantuan data base, it will require sys programmers, analysts, secure comms, operating staff etc. Is this a Govt system within the FBI NSD or CIA for example, or a private system owned and operated by Obama`s staff or Crowd strike or Fusion GPS or worse by HRC on her bathroom m/c. Whichever it has to be found, hopefully Barr is looking for it.

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        • Murray Smith says:

          just a thought, the 2 hop rule applies to FISA warrants etc, this is an illegal set up, so 5, 10, 20 50 hops? the numbers grow alarmingly quickly. Who knows. So who has possession of the personal tastes and information of possibly tens or hundreds of thousands of Americans and/or foreign nationals now? Is it being updated? If so by who? Why? Is it still in use to coerce folk politically/commercially? That would certainly explain much about America and the world today.

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          • Jederman says:

            Could also explain the obedience of the “news” media. As if they weren’t inclined that way to begin with.

            The possibilities are endless. ANYBODY they felt like violating was supported by the equally obedient “rank and file” worker drones mindlessly protecting their pensions.

            As to the 10, 20, 50 hops which would include normal, everyday joes, they probably wouldn’t glean much more than the depth and purity of the animus half the country feels for a that traitorous, America hating, marxist admin.

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        • Linda K. says:

          Barr was retired, off the radar. No data base on him, no blackmail available.

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        • Jederman says:

          I’d like to see an equally powerful counter-data base to cross reference targets, dates of votes, broadcasts, decisions, actions, enforcements/or not… PARTY AFFILIATION… .

          In addition, I strongly suspect that EVERY office under the purview of the ex branch was equally weaponized. Any office, division, agency, detachment… that could exert any leverage or provide any information was part of the “fundamental transformation” operation.

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        • I’ve been thinking that database is in the Obama DC fortress where Valerie now resides. I thought I heard they have a huge staff over there.

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        • This thought might help explain why such a preference for non-American IT workers.

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    • Sobriquet4 says:

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    • crash71234 says:

      Always remember:

      Roberts personally controls every decision from every FISA hearing.

      Semper Fi

      Liked by 9 people

      • Linda K. says:

        If Roberts was compromised, he will have to go.

        Liked by 7 people

        • Jederman says:

          Yesterday (I think) PT did make some comments about filling SCOTUS seats right up to the election.

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        • vikingmom says:

          IF? We know he is compromised because of the ACA decision…the question now is if he will do the honorable thing and step down at the end of this term? The only problem is that we don’t know if Turtle will allow a vote on a new nominee.

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        • warrprin1 says:

          Next question Linda K: Why did W champion Roberts with such enthusiasm during JR’s nomination / confirmation process? W was on fire about JR.

          Is it my insufficient knowledge of the process, or was it unusual for an unconfirmed brand-newbie, with no experience or tenure on the Biggest Bench, to be nominated & elevated to the SC as Chief Justice? Who knew what, and how much, when?

          🎵🎶 How long, has this been going on?

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      • Esther says:

        I’ve been saying for the longest that CJ Roberts is corrupt as hell. He contorted every which way to give Okenyan a win on the health care bill, creating a new form of tax. He has sat on the expansion of powers by the lower courts who have gone after Trump with nationally applied injunctions to halt Trump’s executive orders, though this is far beyond their set jurisdictional authority. Justice Clarence Thomas dared him to do something about it, but all we got were crickets from Roberts. And everything that happens with the FISC, including the appointment of judges is done by Chief Justice Roberts.

        His silence on the push for supremacy of the court over the executive branch is clear. He is forcing Trump to come to him via the USSC on every tiny aspect of every decision the President makes, by allowing lower courts to run wild. Its a ton of power Roberts has been amassing. He literally is telling POTUS Trump, I will backlog your entire agenda, by allowing the partisan activist judges in the lower court to throw roadblocks at everything you do. In refusing to reign in the lower courts abuses and overreaching, Chief Justice Roberts himself is responsible for permitting all these challenges to continue. The UniParty is fine with this too, the refuse to legislate, thereby diverting everything to the courts and their man in place Chief Justice Roberts.
        HERE’S JUSTICE THOMAS’ CHALLENGE TO ROBERTS IN 2017
        “In sum, universal injunctions are legally and historically dubious,” the justice wrote. “If federal courts continue to issue them, this court is duty-bound to adjudicate their authority to do so.”
        DID YOU HEAR THAT ROBERTS??? YOU ARE DUTY BOUND TO INTERVENE AND CORRECT.

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      • GB Bari says:

        Where did you find that written as fact?

        Sundance last year noted that the SCOTUS Chief Justice has only the role of assigning and maintaining the roster of Judges who rotate through FISC duty., while Specifically having NO involvement in the actual cases.

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    • swimeasy says:

      Thank you Sundance! It seems the Obama ‘Shadow Government’ was implemented while he was in office and not when he was leaving. No wonder he wanted to stay in the DC area.

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      • Aunt Clara says:

        Shadow Government directed by O is going full force. Talk about treason!

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        • warrprin1 says:

          Fascinating that the Left tries repeatedly to persuade us, the peons, also known by the D.C. elite as the “munchers”, that PDJT would not leave office voluntarily if defeated in 2020, or at the closing of his 2nd Term.

          The POTUS who has actually refused to leave Office at the end of 2 Terms is – drumroll – The Kenyan One.

          They repeatedly accuse us of every connivance in which they are already deeply, darkly, and ferociously engaged.

          Mr. Atty General, Barr, Kalorama needs a pre-dawn raid.

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        • boomerbeth says:

          He’s too lazy to direct anything.
          He has had handlers for decades.
          He is a figurehead…a pothead deadhead figurehead at that.

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    • convert says:

      Yep. BOOM. Tick and Tock. Slam Dunk shenanigans. Now, who’s going to take out the trash…..

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  2. cheering4america says:

    We’ve all known for a long time that any one of us could easily be spied on, and might be. In my case, I have no inside knowledge of anything which would make me a desirable target. I’m no threat to anybody.

    But Sharryl Atkisson or General Flynn? Or Donald Trump? They have enough inside information to be dangerous to the weaponized (should that be criminalized?) intelligence agencies.

    Good night SD.

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    • I can’t believe the career national security, intelligence & federal law enforcement officials who conducted themselves like this. The abuse of power is stunning and sickening. They all knew better…. how on Earth did such obscene political corruption spread like cockroaches throughout the Obama Administration’s Executive Branch? They lost all sense of duty & honor. They ALL violated their oaths to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States. I guess this is what happens when you elect a man with Marxist beliefs as President of the United States.

      I wonder if justice will be done? At the very least, this has to be completely exposed to the American people.

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      • dd_sc says:

        It started long before Obama got there – at least as far back as the Clinton-Reno DOJ. Part of the Marxists Long March through the government institutions. Obama getting elected with a Congress under complete Democrat control was just the perfect storm event.

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        • My husband says all this current corruption began with President Bill Clinton and his wife, Hillary. He agrees with you.

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          • vikingmom says:

            Hillary weaponized the FBI the old fashioned way – she demanded that files of her enemy be brought to her office. Once GW Bush created the NSA and everything started being computerized, the potential for abuse was exponentially increased…and lo and behold, Obama (who already had a history of using dirt to get ahead) arrived on scene and decided that the rules didn’t apply to him. Mad Maxine spilled the beans years ago and a few of us asked questions but no one in power seemed interested in looking for answers. THIS “spy network” is the biggest story that has never been told and IF it breaks, it will topple empires…

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            • Bryan Alexander says:

              The NSA was established in 1952. It is the primary technical operator for gathering signals intelligence in the US Government.

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              • vikingmom says:

                Point taken – I guess I was referring to the increased usage of computer driven technology and data collection that kicked into high gear after 9/11. There were a lot of people who expressed concerns about how the Patriot Act would be used because the potential for abuse was clear. I guess we know now that their fears were not unfounded!

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                • The Patriot Act, VM. That empowered all the government spying. You’re right about President George W. Bush ushering that in. We could trust him to do the right thing… but the power The Patriot Act gave to the government in the era of Obama? My God!

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                • vikingmom says:

                  Honestly, I DON’T think we should have trusted even President Bush with that much authority…he was well meaning but very naive in many areas. Remember “Our friends, the Saudis”? And how quickly he jumped in to work with Teddy Kennedy on “No Child Left Behind” and offer Medicare Part D. He was totally played and he and his family completely supported Hillary Clinton and willingly threw Donald Trump under the bus just because he told the truth about Jeb! No, no one in government should have access to the kind of unlimited intel that was created post 9/11 because there will ALWAYS be people who will find a way to exploit it!

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      • The Ends ( complete control and power) justify the means (anything to keep complete control and power)!

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      • Judith says:

        Through the EU, Marxist Totalitarians have accelerated their repudiation of Western culture, disassembling European nations with their Open Borders Pact to consolidate power.

        It is only a matter of time (very soon in fact) before our Constitutional Republic, arguably the last bastion of Western civilization, is earmarked for extinction.

        UN Agenda 21’s New World Order, signed in 1992 by GHW Bush, has indeed paved the way for the dissolution of our national sovereignty.

        Our government has been thoroughly weaponized by hostile foreign entities, against the last free Westerners (us), to favor this New World Order. Our situation is dire.

        It is our duty as brave Americans to root out these TREASONOUS snakes, if we are to defend our Constitutional Republic, the Land of the Free, from a hostile takeover.

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      • boomerbeth says:

        Routine procedures since the DULLES BROTHERS. NOTHING NEW, except metadata.
        Ask Bill Binney.

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  3. Lionel Mandrake says:

    Samantha Power, Obama’s U.N. Ambassador is alleged to have requested upwards of 250 to 300 FISA requests / unmaskings. Her predecessor requested 3. I’ve read that U.N. / State Department FISA requirements circumvent standard FISA protocol to expedite “national security”,

    I’m no math genius – but can some one tell me the potential number of individuals that would be ensnared bt 300 unmaskings under the so called “2 hop” rule. Half of the people in Washington? Everyone in the United States?

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    • littleanniefannie says:

      Just assume each person is in contact with just 2 new people. Person #1 contacts 2 people and each of those contacts 2 new people. In the first 2 hop that’s a total of 7 people. Now 2 hope from them. If only the last 4 contact 2 new people (8) and those 8 contact 2 new ones (16), we’ve added 24 to the 7 so we now have 31–that’s the second 2 hop. One more 2 hop gives us 16 adding 2 new ones (32) and those 32 adding 2 more (64). That adds 96 in this trip alone so we’re up to 127. See where this is going. Another 2 hop from them—the 32 have 2 new contacts (64) and the 64 meet 2 new ones (128) so we have 192 to add to our previous total and we now have 319. That’s the third two hop from a person and that’s only including 2 new people for each contact. Minimal (unless the person is Paul Manafort who, for the last 6 months, has been largely in solitary with minimal human contact with the outside world).
      You ask how long it would take to get to 300 contacts—could easily happen within one day. This comes under the heading of MASSIVE setup of Americans. It had to have started under Holder and prospered under Lynch. If Obama wasn’t involved in this spy plot, then he would have to be he dumbest, most used president in history. Why does he have a home in Kalorama? Proximity. It is even possible that there are tunnels to and from his new house to the spy agencies. Anyone who thought it weird that ValJar has a room in the Kalorama home need only think about the fact that the Wayne mansion had nothing on the Kalorama house. I just wonder who is Albert in the House. Mrs. Robinson must be Aunt Harriet!
      Even the world’s greatest spy novelists couldn’t have written this one. The cover needs to be blown. Sunlight ready to bleach the stench. No wonder that treasonous administration had so many Congressmen, government officials, judges, even foreign officials by the snarglies—and you want us to believe that 90% of the rank and file in the FBI and CIA are hard-working, honest people. Sure they may have been complicit out of fear. After all, they would have been in the 2-hop of all the people they were surveilling (spying on). This not only has to stop, it has to be public, it has to be painful, and it has to be severe enough to be a permanent deterrence.

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      • We the people know says:

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      • litlbit2 says:

        Oh the process, as one must wonder just how much Obama learned about what is in Judge Roberts closet?

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        • Murray Smith says:

          and is he still twisting arms with the data?

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          • litlbit2 says:

            Don’t know however, with the action now recorded that Justice Roberts wrote to advance Obamacare. IMO, he is marginalized as possibly being unable to render fair or honest judgements without the clout of being bought or bribed for the verdict protecting the agenda.

            Therefore I believe he should definitely be investigated and possibly removed.

            If he is clean have no problem with him as a judge.

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      • litlbit2 says:

        Oh the process, as one must wonder just how much Obama learned about what is in Judge Roberts closet?

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        • Jonathan Galt says:

          Did Scalia catch on to the ruse? They clearly had a file waiting to be used against Petreaus when he spoke or got out of line. Ditto sessions. Obama set up a political intel whipping post.

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      • Doppler says:

        How many spam emails do you receive? (hop one). How many people does each spammer contact? (hop two). If you’re a politico/lobbyist/government official or employee, how many mailing lists are you on? (Hop one). If you’re one of those organizations with group emails for such individuals, how many contacts do you have? (Hop two).

        FISA, the PATRIOT Act, were drafted and are administered by deep staters. No one without clearance has the ability to even know about it.

        And this is just the “legal cover” over the problem, which is PRISM and other NSA programs that sweep up every digit flowing over the internet, and store it with searchable metadata (queries). How many computer geeks have legal access to PRISM, and the ability access it without accountability. Here or elsewhere in five eyes?

        Read the story of Bill Binney’s Thin Thread program, how it was working and able to connect criminals and terrorists in compliance with the fourth amendment, but was shutdown in favor of mass collection of everything, with 9-11 occurring during the brief interlude, and weep.

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    • Joshua2415 says:

      300 x 300 x 300 means a minimum of 27 million if my math’s right

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      • Joshua- Probably most of the entire Deplorable population has been or is under some kind of surveillance . Like someone else said, 9/11 and the subsequent “security” measures that allowed the Government/ Big Brother to spy on us with no limits, have just about destroyed our country. That, the illegals voting, Google and Big Tech.

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    • Tim says:

      Its about at least 15,000 people. But if they are us citizens their names are masked. As long as the laws are being followed. :-). Here how it works. If this is wrong some one please correct this. The 2 hop rule covers all contacts in the last 5 years. 5 years is a long time for people in washington who network for power and influence, attend conferences, fundraisers, social events. Lets say half of the 300 were the 2nd hop so it stops with them. The other half of the 300 ( 150 ) were the first hop and they each have 100 contacts in the last 5 years.
      so 150 ( first hopers ) times 100 contacts each = 150 * 100 = 15,000

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    • Approximately 330 million (just a guess)….

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    • BLaw says:

      Yes the unmasking requests were over the top. Keep in mind that Ms. Powers testified before congressional committee that she did not personally make those requests. That means someone else connected to the Obama administration used her access to the database. Another corrupt trail to follow. We can only hope that Barr, Horowitz and Durham are following this.

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      • Beau Geste says:

        There MUST be a record of WHO carried out searches, WHO paid for the search work, the results of those searches, and WHO received the search results, because it is all “classified” information. To design a system without such record-keeping would be criminal…
        PDJT could order that these records be provided to AG Barr. And the Inspector Generals of NSA and DIA in addition to IG Horowitz (who is too protective of malfeasance)

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      • littleanniefannie says:

        If she gave her username and password, she is still responsible as if she had done the searches herself.

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  4. desperatelyseekingmelania says:

    You didn’t really think they’d be cowboying around spying on everybody without legal cover did you? These people are all lawyers after all. The 21st century surveillance state wasn’t created without all the necessary accompanying legal framework to make it useful.

    IOW I’ve never believed indictments would be easy to come by for any of this.

    Except for leaking classified info to the press. That’s the easy one. Right in front of us and out in the open. Could indict anytime for that. Yet, crickets. By longstanding tradition it appears to have become the fashionable crime in DC.

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    • Ausonius says:

      The damage from the September 11, 2001 attacks continues, and seemingly will continue, for decades, unless we – by demanding and electing responsive politicians – dismantle it. “The 21st Century Surveillance State” was already developing in the 20th, but that attack injected it with steroids, and the population was happy to desire it, unwisely choosing a feeling of security in place of keeping their freedoms intact.

      And so America in general is still suffering the trauma from that attack, instead of shaking it off and moving on. The playgrounds – rather empty already from various trends before the attacks – remain as empty as ever. The cameras and microphones are everywhere, and private citizens contribute their own cameras and microphones in case the state’s are lacking or inadequate. And we nod and grin and agree that this is our life now.

      Crime has become more “fashionable” than ever in D.C., because it is still run by Leftists, whose lack of morality allows such crime to occur.

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      • sDee says:

        “Never let a good crisis go to waste”

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      • Bubby says:

        Ausonius not only has crime become more “fashionable” than ever in D.C. but it has become more profitable! Uranium One the Clinton’s scored $145 million to the Clinton Family Crime Foundation. Many of the major players in the coup attempt, Comey, Mueller, etc are multi millionaires. How does that happen to Federal bureaucrats? Some get lucrative book deals that are nothing more than money laundering schemes for leftists like Soros. Others via insider trading deals or land deals like Harry Reid. The proverbial saying power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely is being lived out in Washington DC until term limits become mandatory!

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        • Ausonius says:

          Amen! Are you looking at term limits via a Constitutional Convention? It would be hard to see current politicians voting themselves out of office, or even passing something like “These limits will take effect in 20- ” which would probably mean that the next group would pass another law punting the date a decade into the future.

          Book deals! My writings get rejected constantly, but morons who can barely put two Lincoln Logs together, let alone two words, become millionaires.

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      • Ausonius- one of your best posts. I love what you said about the cameras and microphones being supplied by the people themselves. It seems we have whole generations coming up, including my adult children and grandchildren, who think nothing of the fact that they have zero privacy.

        Living in the deep Blue/ Commie People’s Republic of NY, I have almost become accustomed to the pervasive police presence and constant spying that happens in NYC and vicinity.

        If you have a car, forget about. They can track you to the second with cameras and EZ pass. In my small town we have 3 separate police agencies for a virtually crime free population of 10,000 people. They are always looking for something so they can fine you and make money.

        And if you don’t have a car- well there’s always your computer, smart phone, Alexa, Nest or some other device recording your every move.

        Obama & Friends must have felt like they entered a giant candy store when they came into power. Everyone was fair game, especially their enemies.

        Every day it becomes clearer how urgent it is that we win in 2020. Whatever freedom we have left will be removed by the Children of Satan, aka the Dems if they get back control.

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        • Ausonius says:

          Thank you: The Nanny State wants to wrap us in the ultimate security blanket , where all basic freedoms are gone “so that we can be protected.”

          Freedom, therefore, is increasingly denigrated as something harmful, as something leaving you open to attack, and will be taken – is being taken! – to extremes. Your mouth, Comrade, and your writings, and your religion, are all saying things others do not like, and when we says ‘others’, we mean us! And so keep them silent…or else!

          I am reminded of a Russian historian back in the 1970’s, who noted that Russian babies and toddlers are tightly swaddled, as protection against the cold, of course. He theorized that perhaps a feeling is generated that having free arms and legs, freedom of movement of any kind, must be bad for you, and therefore creates a sense of unease about freedom in general later in life.

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      • hoghead says:

        Agreed, Ausonius. bin laden was successful beyond his wildest dreams.

        While I’m at it, I always thought it was peculiar that sotero wouldn’t let us see bin laden’s remains. It is entirely possible that bin laden is living in Queens, NY on a comfortable pension with a SS number in his own name. (…And I’m only half-joking here…)

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    • sDee says:

      “You didn’t really think they’d be cowboying around spying on everybody without legal cover did you? …… it appears to have become the fashionable crime in DC.”

      Spot on.

      With millions of pages of laws and regulations, friends are rewarded and enemies punished at whim – to the polite claps of the King’s Court.

      That is the sobering reality.

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  5. The Boss says:

    I sense a powder keg is about to explode on the obama and clinton crime syndicates and their Deep State and Uniparty soldiers.

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    • lansdalechip says:

      We can certainly hope so, but, the length of the fuse is discouraging a lot of us.

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    • amwick says:

      The sad thing is,,,that is what we all want… I think that whatever happens will look pretty disappointing.

      I hope I am wrong btw.

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      • Orygun says:

        I believe President Trump knows the left lives by a scorched earth policy and there is no way he walks away without cleaning this up.

        I look at him with his grand kids and family. If they get control again they will destroy every one of them. He is well aware of that fact.

        This is what keeps the waiting bearable.

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        • amwick says:

          He is definitely looking out for the future. That is absolutely true. But it may involve making choices that just don’t seem like real justice to the rest of us.

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        • boomerbeth says:

          Why do you think he got fed up & ran?
          He & his dad had their share of G-Men interventions.
          He has a lifetime of observation of federal Corruption voter fraud, graft, assassinations etc.
          He is a unique FEARLESS person…intelligence & guidance on loan from God.

          Way over every other national & international leader’s head…

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    • BroMole says:

      I sense quite the opposite – it seems obvious to me that the fizzle is in process. “See, we were just following the law – FARA and Logan of course” – it will not matter that it was deeply selective. The more they drag it out the less interesting it gets to the LIV

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  6. Pyrthroes says:

    Granted all this, and more, ye Gangrenous Administration stands exposed as the most abusive, partisan-politically corrupt, would-be totalitarian cabal in all American history.

    The question now is, given pervasive Uniparty complicity in Congress and the Courts, who will even attempt institutional corrections to lurking-menace Police State extortion via Beria-style blanket surveillance, up to and including abolishing FISA, terminally neutering NSA (and who knows what other Deep State proctards) with their all-pervasive “monitoring towers”, murderous SWAT teams, inifinite resources for spurious selective prosecution of real-and-imagined partisan opponents?

    As a former ultra-high clearance USAFSS crypto-intelligence officer, I know nothing of current capabilities and usages– but the underlying principles, most particularly the inherent dangers of a Fourth Branch “blank check” for “weaponized” civil/military National Security apparats (in fact, serving viciously subversive Jarrett Administration purposes), all too easily fall prey to false-pretense “small groups” such as Brennan, Clapper, Comey. Once bad seeds take root, good-faith legitimacy flies out the window, taking with it all possibility of impartial civil procedures, attaining gritted-teeth consensus by consent-of-the governed under Rule of Law.

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    • TANGO268 says:

      Does anyone remember the Congressional Research Service report on the Natural Born Citizenship clause for the Presidency? That will stand out in history as a monument to the Uniparty treachery.

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  7. Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

    White House identifies a target; •passes request to the DOJ National Security Division (middlemen); •who then use the auspices of possible FARA violations to pass the instructions to the FBI contractors; •who data-mine the NSA database.

    •The FBI results are then passed back to the DOJ-NSD; •who weaponize the information for FISA applications (becomes legal cover); and •pass the authorized surveillance (spying) results back to the White House etc.

    Says Sally Yates:
    “Often times the names are ALREADY UNMASKED by the intelligence agency ITSELF”

    2:45.00 mark
    This would make sense if the individual was TARGETED in the method described above and the CONSUMER of the intelligence received the results.
    Yates’ testimony seems to make clear that Flynn was NOT 702 but T-1 and why Lindsey has never found the “unmasking” request paperwork on Flynn that would certainly exist as you can’t take a dump in a government bureaucracy without filing paperwork.

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    • littleanniefannie says:

      Take a dump, you can’t even get directions to the toilet!

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    • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

      Looking at the BarbaraFlynn text messages SD posted above
      (Now that I’ve got my reading glasses on)

      This exchange is exactly what Strzok/Page were have a conniption over.

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    • TwoLaine says:

      Right before that she also says: Coverups are bad. That usually is evidence of intent. That’s something we would look at and make a determination if it should be criminally prosecuted.

      Hmmm. ILLary Clinton anyone?

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    • Redzone says:

      I suspect this “legal” circular surveillance process is the best kept secret in Washington DC. There’s no way this abuse repeatedly occurred to this extent without many people knowing. FBI agents were denied the ability by NSD/DOJ to use FARA to investigate potential crimes. Surely they knew the reason.

      This all goes back to the “not jeopardizing National Security by risking the public exposure of the abuse of the private data collection process.”

      If one thinks about it, a major purpose of a SCIF room is probably the ability for a politician to have a private conversation knowing that the NSA/CIA/FBI/NSD is NOT listening. That’s why they have “joked” for years that nothing is private. The politicians knew, but didn’t care, because they have their own tiered justice system.

      Someone needs to expose all Lindsay Graham’s dirty laundry, so he has nothing left to hide that people can use against him. Then, maybe he would issue some subpoenas putting some sunlight on this whole unauthorized surveillance cluster#$_&.

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  8. TwoLaine says:

    Someone should be able to easily give us stats on how many FISC requests were made for possible FARA violations vs actual FARA violations cases filed (0?).

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    • amwick says:

      Stop being so logical.
      👍

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    • mr.piddles says:

      I don’t think you’ll be able to separate the legitimate from illegitimate cases. Per TechnoFog’s breakdown by way of Sundance:
      1.) According to the IG: the FBI “commingles both FARA and Section 951 cases”
      2.) FARA “violations” were a handy, open-ended mechanism for cultivating sources, ensnaring, entrapping, etc. etc. … you know… “law enforcement” stuff

      There’s a reason the Podesta Group was allowed to somewhat quietly and expeditiously clear out it’s office and cancel the Comcast Business account. Too many questions requires too many answers. (As if the MSM would actually ask “questions”… but I digress.) Then Podesta’s “case” was moved to SDNY. How’s that prosecution going, guys? Or maybe Podesta has “flipped”… you know… like a Blueberry Pancake on a hot Skillet. Maybe he’s giving up the goods on a bunch of D.C. Insider FARA Violators and Agents Of Foreign Powers.

      I’m being sarcastic, of course. None of that is happening. SDNY is where the Podesta case went to die… if not, imagine the outrage when folks finally figure out the FARA Violation Scheme. It’s called “coverup”. And our Federal Government can’t even do THAT well. Because they’re idiots, that’s why.

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    • All government information-retrieval systems, #CLASSIFIED# or otherwise, keep very detailed audit records. For every piece of information, it must be possible to know where and when it came from, to see every revision that was made, to see when it was deleted (made inaccessible – it doesn’t really disappear), and retrieved.

      This is why Adm. Rogers was able to give definite information to Judge Collyer, who was able to put an actual [REDACTED] number into her ruling. This is also how, more recently, we have news reports listing “a specific number” of violations, and violators. Perhaps the Obama people did not think of this, but every single time they queried that database, they left a #CLASSIFIED# digital trail a thousand miles wide. Those records are still there. Virtually every offense that these people perpetrated was digitally and authoritatively recorded, and those #CLASSIFIED# records are still available. Nobody has to “guess” what happened – they know … exactly.

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  9. TwoLaine says:

    Has there been an IG Review of the NSD yet?

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    • GB Bari says:

      That’s the elephant in the tent that no one talks about.

      The ridiculously and transparently corrupt rule that it’s outside of DOJ OIG’s investigative authority needs to be deleted, permanently. If Bill Barr doesn’t do that he is part of the problem.

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    • WSB says:

      Sally Yates denied one at the time. Do not know if it has resumed.

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      • TwoLaine says:

        Yes, that why I keep asking. We should not forget these people wanted to work with 100% immunity.

        They are sick people and everything they did and touched should be reviewed ASAP..

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  10. DJT2020 says:

    This is quite a revelation and at the same time a bitter pill to swallow. If this is all going to be loosely justified there will be no real justice. Just procedural changes. Thanks to George Obama / Barack Bush.

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  11. Bogeyfree says:

    Another great thread for Sidney Powell to read (assuming she didn’t already know the game and process)

    The question is, now that she sees and knows how they did it via Sundance’s step by step outline here, what is she going to do with it??

    I’d love a thread now that talks about how she can bust and expose this game wide open for all to see.

    So thankful Sidney Powell is a CTH reader.

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  12. Kent says:

    ….yet the Awan network got away virtually 100% free….and the muslim brotherhood appointees….and all involved in Uranium1….and the Hillary beast and Obama his treacherous self…the list is almost endless…….

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    • GB Bari says:

      Yes!

      No matter how well the defenders of this corrupt process try to hide behind its alleged “legality”, their case is easily exposed as a house of cards because of all of the Clinton-based corruption that includes unknown multitudes of foreign contacts that were never prosecuted under any FARA or Section 951 laws.

      Give us a royal break.

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  13. Johnny says:

    I am sure there is an amendment to the Constitution we voted on that says we allow the government to spy on the citizens of the United States without any resonable cause . Using a storage facility to store data on every citizen from the time of birth till death. It must be on that paper we call the Constitution. It has to be. Great big sarcasm.

    We have crossed all red lines with this government.

    Now the question is what do we do at this moment.

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  14. Bogeyfree says:

    So if this was the process and the game one would think they could use this game as “leverage”

    If so when does one of the potentially millions who may have been leveraged come forward to speak with Barr?

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  15. amwick says:

    Even my four brain cells grasp the horrendous implications of this.. anyway..

    Now, whether what’s left of Flynn’s case is enough to drag this political surveillance system into the sunlight is yet to be seen.

    🤔🤔🤔🤔

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  16. youme says:

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  17. youme says:

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  18. Johnny says:

    So the government has become a licensed proctologist and will be up everyones azz with a magnifying glass making sure we do nothing wrong.

    I fill voilated.

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  19. sDee says:

    Thanks to the miracle of the most powerful and pervasive surveillance system in history, Federal Police need not plant evidence, they simply design and manufacture it.

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  20. Bogeyfree says:

    So if this is their 6 step process:

    1) White House identifies a target;
    2) passes request to the DOJ National Security Division (middlemen);
    3) who then use the auspices of possible FARA violations to pass the instructions to the FBI contractors; who data-mine the NSA database.
    4) The FBI results are then passed back to the DOJ-NSD;
    5) who weaponize the information for FISA applications (becomes legal cover);
    6) pass the authorized surveillance (spying) results back to the White House etc.

    Why not audit and compare all targeted FARA violators name with NSA database requests with FBI investigation FISA results and see just how many produce the same name/result.

    For example (I’ll just pick a random and common name)
    1) was a request of Paul Ryan ever passed to the DOJ National Security Div? If yes, then
    2) was Paul Ryan ever searched in the NSA database by an FBI Contractor, if yes then
    3) what specific information did the contractors search for on Paul Ryan
    3) then did the fbi ever submit a FISA application on Paul Ryan to apply the cover?

    IMO run this audit and cross reference and if true we should see a whole lot of bingos

    Is there anyway Sidney Powell using the Flynn case to present and discover any of these people connections and thus opening a crack of pattern to their process and game which leads to expose the crack even more by others?

    Sure seems like a great article for John Soloman to get digging on.

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  21. Kent says:

    While all this may be true, there is obviously nothing illegal in any of the actions of the Obama DOJ and FBI. We are three years since Obama and there have been no indictments, even though many facts of dubious behavior have been public for a long time. Apparently the Trump DOJ sees no crimes. Trump has promised many times to declassify all the relevant documents but his promises have never been fulfilled. And the secret investigations that are occurring are not transparent and there is no reason to expect any “bombshells” which have been hyped for more than a year and are as non-existent as the declassifications.

    So, Obama and his people are safe. Same for Hillary.

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    • Kintbury says:

      Are you saying it is not illegal to falsify documents as they must have done to create a story, leak it to the press and then use the story in the paper to justify an investigation?
      Sounds iffy to me.

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    • G.W. 😉 says:

      “Apparently the Trump DOJ sees no crimes.”

      When and where have you seen a “Trump DOJ”? It remains an administrative state heavily laced with implants from 2-3 past administrations.

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      • GB Bari says:

        Barr is attributable to PDJT, since he was NOT part of Obozo’s Circus of Criminal Clowns. And Durham, in turn. Beyond them, you’re mostly correct.

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  22. RJ says:

    Ok, you continue to slice up the garlic into millions of pieces. All for what? To add it to your dish of discovery when those who are in this kitchen can smell the dish from afar. Obama hasn’t changed his spots since running for office in Illinois, nor has Hillary since gathering up those 400+ FBI files. Brennan just smiles and slithers along with these people. Comey rotates his head 360 degrees just like a radar screen, while Clapper nods and mutters to entertain all who might listen.

    When one sees those “magnificent tools” of electronic means a decision has to be made. When one is truly a “passive aggressive” weasel viewing said tools what do you think will happen?

    We use those tools to reach the goals desired! You wish to prove how they did it…

    And then what? That is where I sense a major loss coming. After all the searching and putting the millions of pieces together what will happen? Obama rests in Italy with Clooney who bought Kerry’s mansion some years back. Clinton visits vineyards in Russia. Brennan seeks the best plastic surgeon to create a smile, while Clapper gets his own bobbing head doll for his car.

    Everyone of these weasels plan on vacationing in New York City so they can skate at Rockefeller Plaza as you twist and turn in the wind wondering why no one has been brought to justice.

    How long to you think I will keep my fingers crossed? Till the cows come home?

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  23. Downright scary. The dilemma this Brander Hanger has is – what happens now. Three questions: Does MS Powell’s defense of General Flynn expose everything to the public eye? And what does Judge Sullivan do when/if this is exposed in “his” courtroom? Where role will AG Barr and Attorney Durham play?

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  24. Bogeyfree says:

    It all fits….

    From the Samatha Powell unmaskings evidence to the…

    The Adm Rodgers halting the NSA abuse to the ….

    6 month FISA audit where 85% of the searches were non compliant to the….

    Endless FBI bias, stonewalling and suppressing of documents asked by Congress for years.

    You know what they say, If the glove fits Barr must …………….

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  25. Bubby says:

    General Flynn has said that President Obama fired him from the Defense Intelligence Agency because he took a stand against “radical Islamism,” and claimed Al-Qaeda was expanding its ranks around the globe. “I knew then it had more to do with the stand I took on radical Islamism and the expansion of al Qaida and its associated movements,” Flynn also said. “I felt the intel system was way too politicized, especially in the Defense Department.” H/T to the Angry Patriot. So the real “predicate” for spying on General Flynn is because obama didn’t like his views on muslims? So to punish Flynn for his views on “radical islamism” obama in his pique put on Flynn a “surveillance ebola virus. He was unwittingly infecting everyone he communicated with” – Sundance. AG Barr this “predicate” needs investigated!

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  26. tav144 says:

    So basically, if you fail to register under FARA, you get spied on, and info is gathered for a FISA to cover up the spying.

    And if you DO register under FARA you get spied on, because after all, now that you’re a registered foreign agent, you’re conversations are monitored anyway…..then get a pretext from a monitored conversation, and get a FISA for cover.
    And heck, even if you’re NOT a registered foreign agent, and DON’T register, you’ll get spied on anyway since DOJ will just make the allegation that you’re a foreign agent – ala Carter Page – with zero credible or verifiable evidence (even exculpatory) and get a FISA warrant anyway.

    Got it. So nobody is exempt from being spied on and the 4th amendment just got thrown out the window.

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    • Kintbury says:

      Not if you are a Podesta. They were warned to register by the Mueller team. Now nice.

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      • tav144 says:

        True. And this explains the Uniparty. Everyone is on the take, because everyone is compromised by blackmail done by these unethical spying practices.

        But notably, since this was magnified in exploitation under the Democrat Obama administration, it was used against political enemies and threats, and used to protect political allies.

        “Six ways from Sunday”, Chuck.

        No wonder they all came unglued when Trump won. That same “legal” – but albeit unethical – justification could be used against their own interests by a Republican administration, and/or their own abuse of the process could be exposed.

        I don’t care what technical legal “loophole” theory they use, it would not stand up to scrutiny under a truly just and unbiased judge sworn to uphold the Constitution.
        Is violation of an *administrative regulation* as justification for violating a foundational

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      • tav144 says:

        (hit send before I was finished)..
        Is violation of an*administrative regulation* justification for violating a foundational tenet and protection against unreasonable searches and seizures?

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    • sarasotosfan says:

      I think the only big question is was a FISA warrant sought on Donald Trump? We know from what has transpired Brennan and Comey viewed Trump with suspicion. Did they convert that suspicion into a FISA warrant using the yet to be discredited publicly the ‘Putin wanted Trump to win’ excuse to surveil Trump?

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  27. TheLastDemocrat says:

    “…acting on behalf of foreign governments…”

    Big enough to drive a truck through. What does that mean? What is the burden of evidence to support a warrant?

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    • snarkybeach says:

      don’t cha know… intent is the new proof in Obama’s America. depending on your political bent is whether you get the stick or the carrot.

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  28. Blue Wildflower says:

    Well, it seems to me like it has taken so long to figure things out because I thought if they broke the law it would be a minor thing that they could at least try to have some excuse for doing it. Looks like they went, as we say in Texas, “whole hog.”

    Obama seems to have used all the alphabet agencies as most Americans would use google.

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  29. cboldt says:

    To big to publicize. That would cause the public to distrust the honorable government institutions. The rank and file would never do this, and any abuse was limited and (this is important), the offense was caught and the offenders was punished.
    We urge the public to go about its business. There is nothing unusual to see here.

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  30. The PATRIOT Act which appeared and was enacted after 9/11 has about 900 pages, I am told – far, far too many to have been written in that time-frame. Ergo, it already existed. It was no doubt passed to ex post facto justify what was already being done.

    The strangest thing to me about all of this is the obsessiveness with which it is being done. And for what purpose? Why do you feel that you need to spy on thousands of people, most of whom are not your political enemy? This makes Richard M. Nixon, creep though he was, look like extremely small potatoes. It also casts Barak Obama, who up to this point I thought was basically a nice guy if a colorless (no pun intended) President, in a very strange and creepy light.

    Obviously, we need to enact many reforms. First, question the existence of the PATRIOT Act. Why do we need this? Is it really making us safer, or the opposite? We obviously need term limits in the Congress and – God help her, Ginsberg has become a bag of bones – the Supreme Court and in Federal Courts. And, we need some system akin to the British “vote of no confidence” by which a non-performing government can be replaced.

    I also think that we should vacate all of the sentences and indictments issued by the Mueller affair, and void any pleas such as Gen. Flynn’s. We can then convene a Grand Jury as needed to consider whether new charges should be filed, as necessary. AG Barr should declassify everything that the Grand Jury may need to see, so that it can be shown to them.

    It is by now extremely obvious that what Mueller did is not legitimate legal work – even these things were “weapons.” Gen. Flynn should not go to prison for this, no matter what piece of paper he signed to save his son. No one else should be charged or continue to be imprisoned. But the actions of Mueller et al certainly might, themselves, be crimes.

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    • highdezertgator says:

      Amended or drew from many other laws already on the books…. Genesis was the reaction to OK City bombing…..
      “On April 24, 1996, President Bill Clinton signed the “Antiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act of 1996,” to make it easier for law enforcement to identify and prosecute domestic and international terrorists.

      The law, however, didn’t go far enough for President Clinton. He’d asked Congress to give law enforcement expanded wiretap authority and increased access to personal records in terrorism cases, among other things. Congress refused, mainly because many felt loosening surveillance and records rules was unconstitutional.”
      https://www.history.com/topics/21st-century/patriot-act

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    • Mike- you bring up some really great points. Just imagine if our President Trump had not been elected and the Demonics had been allowed to continue their reign of terror on the populace.

      Sundance and Techno Fog have compiled the most thorough, brilliant and unassailable treasure trove of facts, research and analysis that has ever existed regarding the infernal machinations of the Deep State spying cabal.

      It is long past time that someone from on high uses this priceless information to start punishing the evil doers. Why is it that when the Commie/Lib/Dems want to get someone it seems like they can do it almost overnight? Why is our side always playing catch up?

      “Fiat Justititia Ruat Caelum”- Let there be justice though the heavens fall.

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      • kp says:

        Seneca,

        Difficult as it is to wait, for our Heavenly Father is longsuffering and hopes all will come to repentance, He is keeping score and time is growing short.

        Psalm 37 (An Acrostic Psalm)
        37:7 “…Fret not…because of…[any] who bringeth wicked…to pass.”
        37:20 “…the wicked shall perish…”
        37:34 “Wait on the Lord…thou shalt see it.”

        We’re all gonna’ witness the justice we seek. It just seems to be slow in coming, but it’ll come nonetheless.

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    • Alligator Gar says:

      Seems like back when I first started questioning the official rationales an stories for 9/11 (I am no “truther” but a skeptic–why trust anything the lying liars in government spew to you as doctrinaire truth?), I read that PATRIOT had been written in the 1970s and dusted off and updated for the 2000s.

      Our conquest and forced integration into the One World Government has been planned at the highest levels for a long, long, time. Remember: “Never let a good crisis go to waste.”

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      • Someday, I hope that the truth about 9/11 will be revealed. I simply cannot conceive of anyone engineering the controlled demolition of three buildings in New York City, two of which had thousands of people in them, one of which was somehow “known” to be destined to collapse into its own footprint long before it [also] did. I cannot wrap my head around this crime. My capability to imagine psychopathy is not that big.

        I also can’t imagine several airplanes being hijacked and flown as a diversion.

        But also, I especially cannot wrap my head around a very determined US Government(!) effort to spin obviously-false stories about what happened. No one investigated – at all – a crime which resulted in several thousand counts of Murder in the First Degree. I know that there is a group of New York attorneys who are fighting to pursue this as the criminal case that it is, but I don’t think they’ll get very far without Presidential-level assistance and declassification.

        My eyes and intellect tell me exactly what happened. But they cannot begin to tell me why.

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        • GB Bari says:

          1,000 “Likes” !

          You have very accurately expressed my long-standing thoughts on this dilemma. My engineering background also told me from the beginning that the factors of overwhelming mass and inertia took over once the steel structure weakened from the fires.

          Modern skyscraper design depends on all of the basic structural components being in place to support the huge weight above. Take out a few supports and gravity overcomes the remaining supporting structure due to the magnitude of the combined mass (potential energy) of the upper floors.

          Then once that mass begins to accelerate straight down due to the direction of gravitational force, it overwhelms by several orders of magnitude the ability of the supporting structure below. Hence, the “pancake” of each floor and the continued vertical collapse straight down.

          I never bought the conspiracy theory of “planned demolition” despite its support by some (alleged) structural engineers.

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          • GB Bari says:

            I forgot to include that the structures were fatally weakened by the high speed impacts of the heavy airliners as well as the resulting fires.

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    • Daniel says:

      At the end of the day, it’s about the one world communist government. Seriously. It is about specifically and precisely that. It is known by many names, of course: The “New World Order” or “Globalism.” (And who knows, maybe there are different factions aiming for similar goals but differ in who they think should be in control of everything.) The “free world” (aka, the first world) must be taken down to accomplish this. This is why they pushed for non-democratic rule over the EU. This is why “white men” are almost exclusively the target of hate and attacks all over. Anything which looks better than “non-freedom” must be destroyed. And that’s what they are doing.

      You may now think of someone as a political enemy, but the crime is ‘thought’ and if your thoughts disagree with their thoughts, then you have committed a crime in their view. And just when they finally get the control they are after, then the mass murders begin. History demonstrates this over and over again.

      What is plain and obvious to a lot of us is not plain or obvious to others. They have handed their minds over to 3rd parties to control. Take for example, the live streamed video of the New Zealand mosque shooting. I watched it in its entirety. The one thing I noticed was the lack of blood or any sort of spilling or spatter. And the aftermath images looks like things were smeared on over the surface and not soaked in. Gun shot wounds sometimes don’t bleed. I get that. But when you’re talking about hundreds of rounds fired “hitting people” repeatedly, you would expect to see some splashing and splatter. There was none. NO ONE questions this. Many refuse to even look at it despite knowing there’s no blood! What sort of people are THIS evasive of the truth?

      The answer is “today’s normal people” are this evasive of the truth. They don’t want to know about it or think about it because if they did, they would feel they have to act on it. And it is the fear of action which ACTUALLY paralyses them.

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  31. We the people know says:

    5 Ways Michael Flynn’s New Lawyer Could Expose More About Spygate
    https://thefederalist.com/2019/06/18/5-ways-michael-flynns-new-lawyer-expose-spygate/

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    • sarasotosfan says:

      Huh. Jessie Liu took over the case for the government? I did not see her mentioned in the transcript of yesterday’s proceedings. Van Brackle represented the government.

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  32. Zorro says:

    Fubar. I’m convinced that we, that realize the reality of what the US has become, get to live the rest of our lives in the twilight zone. The burden of knowing the truth while we become subjects to a totalitarian Demosocialist state who live a life of blissful virtue signaling in a never ending sequence of false narratives and hoaxes.

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    • Matthew LeBlanc says:

      Welcome to the Matrix. Please enjoy the remainder of your stay.

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    • Daniel says:

      Oh come now. That’s not where this is headed. These are all steps along the path to full communism. You know the one where people are starved and murdered for thinking the wrong things? If “twilight zone” living among idiots virtue signaling was all we had to fear then I’d say we have nothing to fear. But history is a teacher of things.

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  33. sarasotosfan says:

    This degree of corruption is crazy. I read the transcript and everything of interest was redacted. The Techno Fog discovery is mind blowing. And some how no Democrats were caught in this dragnet? This is far beyond belief to the point of ridiculousness.

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  34. dd_sc says:

    Tenuous legal theories (Logan Act) and obscure laws (technical FARA violations) appear to have been exploited by DOJ administration officials, in close ideological alignment with the Lawfare Group. In association with overall Obama administration officials, the fellow travelers used the legal system to create a DC surveillance network.

    As this scandal continues to unfold, I keep thinking back to this quote:

    “We will use your democracy to destroy your democracy.”
    — Muslim Cleric Omar Bakri Mohammed

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  35. TradeBait says:

    This is what happens when America elects scum to political office who appoint, hire and promote scum in judgeships and law enforcement. The Roman Empire had nothing on DC.

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  36. dd_sc says:

    Obviously the purposes and intents of the surveillance would be political.

    Why stop at the DC city limits.

    Think of the donor class. Deep State has surveillance on a political target who then has contact with a big money donor like a Koch brother or Zuckerberg. The two hop rule is the gateway into the business world. How many multi-billion dollar deals does the donor class discuss in a given day? And now the Deep State intel apparatus has access to all that inside information. Easy path to becoming a millionaire.

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    • dd_sc says:

      And before I forget, I’m sure president elect Trump had contact with Eric Trump – who now runs Trump, Inc – so the Deep State could very well have plenty of inside information on Trump’s entire family.

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      • Beau Geste says:

        The “2 hop rule” must surely be unconstitutional. It authorizes spying on thousands of truly random US Citizens. How many US Citizens does a congress critter or business person have contact with contact in several months? Then those US Citizens each have random, “unsuspicious” contact without “probable cause” with large numbers of other US Citizens, all permanently collected. This needs to be reviewed by the Courts in open hearings.

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    • rcogburn says:

      No question.

      Also, the donor class has many levels. At the top of the donor heap are the people with deep pockets AND power AND extremely close ties the deep state/MIC. Bundling $50 million for the DNC will get you close to the action, but the real power lies with Jeff Bezos, Eric Schmidt, etc. Takes the potential of surveillance to new levels.

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  37. dd_sc says:

    Tenuous legal theories (Logan Act) and obscure laws (technical FARA violations) appear to have been exploited by DOJ administration officials

    Extend that to the arcane laws of Campaign Finance and Income Tax.

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  38. ARTHUR says:

    McCabe altered Strzok’s 302 notes during his interview with Michael Flynn in order to frame him. All of this was criminal. All of it designed to attack and unseat a duly elected POTUS. Yet who’s in a prison cell for it all? …still waiting.

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  39. rich33y says:

    This adds a whole different light to FBI DD Andrew McCabe’s comment back in March 2017 which was “F*ck Flynn and then we F*ck Trump”.

    That statement wasn’t just what McCabe wanted to do, it’s what he knew he could do using the weaponized FISA warrants.

    https://truepundit.com/exclusive-fbis-own-political-terror-plot-deputy-director-and-fbi-brass-secretly-conspired-to-wage-coup-against-flynn-trump-2/

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  40. Brant says:

    Wild theory. Flynn phone call transcript not released to him because he has a transcript and perhaps a recording himself……..talk about a bomb shell if the two were not to match. FBI/DOJ and judge can’t chance that possibility.

    If he knows/knew all the bad stuff, he would be less than bright if he did not record (print and audio) the meeting he had with FBI and the phone call he had with Kilsyak.

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  41. Genie says:

    Let’s see the three unapproved FISA applications in 2016 and confirm if candidate Trump was the target of the Dragon FISA.

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  42. archie says:

    It seems the IC has got the goods on the politicians and judges but they must have the goods on the republican media. Why hasn’t Limbaugh, Levin, Hannity, et al been shouting from the rooftops about this? Sure, they make some low-level rumblings but that is allowed under the swamp rules. Why does sundance and these other amateurs have to find the answers? If I was Limbaugh, I would be so embarrassed I wouldn’t come out of my bedroom for 6 months.

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  43. Bogeyfree says:

    I wish Sundance would change the name of this thread to…..

    HOW THEY DID IT, TO SPY ON MILLIONS OF AMERICANS SINCE 2012

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  44. Zimbalistjunior says:

    Iran nuclear deal. Anyone who spoke to AIPAC was spied on and blackmailed.

    Schumer six ways till Sunday
    Feinstein I had a fever
    Nadler 80 subpoenas
    Schiff what’s the nature of the kompromat.
    McCain thumbs down
    Etc etc etc

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  45. Likely this process is partial part of how Obama built (continues to build) his database that Maxine Waters talked about in 2013

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  46. florida91 says:

    Goddamn you Barack Hussein Obama. He deserves to be taken out and shot for treason! Godless, evil Muslim phony!

    Liked by 1 person

  47. florida91 says:

    Goddamn you Barack Hussein Obama. He deserves to be taken out and shot for treason! Godless, evil Muslim phony!

    Liked by 3 people

    • Louisiana Tea Rose says:

      Florida, the Secret Service is compelled to investigate threats against him.

      I don’t doubt your heart, and many agree with your sentiment that Obama is a disgrace to this country, and should face certain justice.

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  48. mortgagesforthemasses says:

    This certainly explains the hands-off by Congress when it came to the Obama regime.

    Imagine the dirt they have on Bill and Hillary Clinton. No wonder they are so pissed at Trump. They owned them and never got to cash in.

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  49. Is a illegally obtained confession under duress going to stand?

    I suspect Sidney Powell is going to prove it does not.

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