Trump Administration Evaluating Complete Blacklist of Chinese Products for U.S. 5G Infrastructure…

According to a Wall Street Journal report, President Donald Trump is considering a requirement that all next-generation 5G cellular equipment used in the United States will have to be designed and manufactured outside China.

As part of the 150-day executive order review, initiated after cybersecurity concerns in the United States, administration officials are asking tech companies and telecom equipment makers if they can develop U.S. hardware including cellular-tower electronics as well as routers and switches, and software from sourcing completely outside China.

(WSJ) […] The conversations are in early and informal stages, they said. The executive order calls for a list of proposed rules and regulations by the 150-day deadline, in October; so, any proposals may take months or years to adopt.

The proposals could force the biggest companies that sell equipment to U.S. wireless carriers, Finland’s Nokia Corp. NOK  and Sweden’s Ericsson, to move major operations out of China to service the U.S., which is the biggest market in the $250 billion-a-year global industry for telecom equipment and related services and infrastructure. There is no major U.S. manufacturer of cellular equipment.

U.S. officials have long worried that Beijing could order Chinese engineers to insert security holes into technology made in China. They worry those security holes could be exploited for spying, or to remotely control or disable devices.

Washington has already essentially banned telecom equipment from Chinese companies, especially industry leader Huawei Technologies Co., from the U.S. over these cybersecurity worries, which Huawei says are baseless. Now, the White House is taking those concerns to the next step by asking Western telecom-equipment makers whether they can rejigger their China-dependent supply chains.

“While the primary national-security concerns center on Chinese-owned firms, the equipment produced by any firm operating in China is at greater risk for vulnerabilities because of access to personnel and facilities,” said Michael Wessel, a member of the U.S.-China Economic and Security Review Commission, which reports to Congress on security issues. (Read More)

Thankfully, we have U.S. President Trump in place during this critical moment in history on a multitude of fronts.   Even Trump’s most virulent detractors will admit there is no-one in government more patriotically committed to an America First agenda.

With one branch of government, DC legislative branch, full of purchased agents by foreign governments and corporations, President Trump stands uniquely alone without any attachment to special interests…. Pretty incredible actually; perhaps even divinely so.

The dynamic of these trade decisions having a multi-generational impact on life within our borders; and considering the ramifications if we allow foreign interests to purchase our domestic policy…. The 2020 election is even more critical.

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127 Responses to Trump Administration Evaluating Complete Blacklist of Chinese Products for U.S. 5G Infrastructure…

  1. sundance says:

    There are Trillions at Stake !!!

    Liked by 31 people

    • CopperTop says:

      “No the Chinese cannot buy the Chicago Stock Exchange” – Pres. Donald J. Trump

      Liked by 12 people

    • All Too Much says:

      XI’s head must be spinning.

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    • bertdilbert says:

      Trump starts a conversation he has already won.

      Reality, it is not just for TV shows anymore.

      Liked by 13 people

    • rd says:

      Why would Chinese Citizens ever assist the Chinese Government with putting spyware in a foreign companies products?

      Maybe because it is Chinese Law and Chinese Citizens are required to do so?

      National Intelligence Law of the People’s Republic

      Article 7 Any organization or citizen shall support, assist and cooperate with the state intelligence work in accordance with the law, and keep the secrets of the national intelligence work known to the public.
      The State protects individuals and organizations that support, assist and cooperate with national intelligence work.
      Article 14 The state intelligence work organization shall carry out intelligence work according to law, and may require relevant organs, organizations and citizens to provide necessary support, assistance and cooperation.

      http://cs.brown.edu/courses/csci1800/sources/2017_PRC_NationalIntelligenceLaw.pdf

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    • Sundance, the scale and scope of China’s progress under what I call their “GLOBAL ENTANGLEMENT STRATEGY” will become a mind-blowing parallel track to Obama’s SPYGATE and D-rats’ CONTINUING COUP.

      America will find the UniParty at the center of ALL THREE.

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    • Esther says:

      Not just money at stake for China, yes Trillioins, but protection of our own National Security and economy which was a piggy bank of outflow before. China is partly in economic trouble because they counted their chickens before they hatched. All the expansion across the world by the Chinese is dependent on siphoning US technology, America’s wealth, and amassing agricultural land worldwide to control food supply. But they started boasting too early thinking it was a done deal. Only HILARY LOST THE ELECTION. Just as important President Trump has done much to WAKE UP THE AMERICAN PUBLIC. When the giant is sleeping falsely lulled into stupor by the MSM and treacherous congress, China took our lunch, our wallets and even our shoes. But now the American public is awake, China is nothing more than a paper tiger casting a big bad shadow. Set the paper on fire and the ominous shadow is exposed for what it is. No matter how the MSM make it appear, as if Trump is a lone unhinged man not supported by his congress or his own party, China has got to face the fact that President Trump is loved and supported by the majority of American people ( not considering the masses of illegal and their votes).

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  2. MM says:

    Good Move…..

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  3. Steven Edwards says:

    I’ve mentioned before how this is going to have unexpected blowback. My company sells our products to the developing nations and is largely based in China, however our US office does the development for the online services. They are already wanting to close down our US office and move all operations to China because it is quickly becoming harder and harder to find engineers here that are not afraid of running in to problems by working on our infrastructure with the coming restrictions on trade.

    We don’t import phones to the US market. We make $40 phones in China for sell in India, China, Africa and other dirt poor nations. If we keep going down this road I know a dozen people just in the US that will be out of work.

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    • jeans2nd says:

      i know a dozen million – or more – of U.S. workers that are out of work due to moves made to China, just like your company made.
      Please do not expect any pity from us. You will not receive any.
      Word to the wise – move your company back to America and be on the side of the good guys for once.

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      • Steven Edwards says:

        There is no ‘moving our company back to America’ because it was never in America.

        The company is owned by an Asian conglomerate. There is simply no way to make our products in the US and sell in the markets well sell because none of the infrastructure exists in the US or Europe. The only reason the US child company exists was because the Asian company sourced parts from Qualcomm (not anymore) and they needed US expertise in Cloud Services (which they need less and less).

        You seem to think this is a world where 100% of a company is owned in the US or owned in China but that is not the way the world works. We have ownership in the EU, US and Asia, we make products that never even started in the US.

        All this is doing is making them less dependant on us.

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        • rmramerica says:

          See ya……enjoy working in the other parts of the world.

          Liked by 4 people

        • Frank says:

          Separating the US from the multinational conglomerates is the whole point. This separation will create market volatility and domestic needs which will be filled by domestic ventures. A big part of this change means losing those comfortable posts in multinational businesses. If you think your job is going away soon, then take steps now to secure other work. Don’t just sit there and complain because the world is changing.

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          • Deb says:

            A million likes. This is why we voted for PDJT, to defeat globalism. People who support globalism for the sake of their own job security do so at the expense of our national security and their own liberties. Americans are so easily bought off these days.

            Liked by 5 people

        • Perot Conservative says:

          China reaps what it sowed for 30 years or more. A culture of IP theft, intimidation, and copying.

          The Chinese H1B programmers I worked with 20 years ago said over 90% of software in China is pirated.

          Multiple Chinese nationals indicted this year for theft from our government, and Americans also indicted stealing for the Chinese.

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        • scslayer says:

          What happens when China carbon copies your Cloud business (as you stated above they need less and less)?

          Your job seems to of already had the expiration day set…just dependent on how quickly the Chi-com’s can steal your company’s technology.

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        • scslayer says:

          What happens when China carbon copies your Cloud business (as you stated above they need less and less)?

          Your job seems to of already had the expiration day set…just dependent on how quickly the Chi-com’s can steal your company’s technology.

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        • Kenji says:

          Here’s an idea! Move to NingNang and have a ball selling phones to Chinese peasants.

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        • Trump’s OWNERSHIP END GAME:

          “100% of a company is OWNED in the USA or owned in China”

          … There’s NO ENFORCEABLE ALTERNATIVE.

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        • dgc says:

          If I were as insensitive and crass as many of the coastal and global elites have historically been, I would have suggested that you do something akin to ‘learning to code’.

          Where should I start? Perhaps by rewording part of your comment to be more accurate:
          ‘The only reason the US child company exists was because the Asian company sourced [stole designs of] parts from Qualcomm (not anymore) and they needed US expertise in Cloud Services (which they need less and less) [due to forced transfer or outright theft of intellectual property through forced joint ventures].’

          It’s funny how so many people who think like you have continually placed short-term financial interests over both the national security and long-term, economic interests of the very country that you presumably live in! You actually speak as if China is an open and competitive trading market, and as if the Chinese government and Chinese state-owned enterprises are not full of dedicated communist ideologues with a competing vision for how the world will work!

          China had revealed itself to be hostile to free, open and fair markets – it is mercantilist at best – and the resources that it has acquired over the past 30 years have NOT led to it becoming more politically liberalized as promised. Instead it has become an even more repressive Communist state – with all of the surveillance capabilities that only Silicon Valley could have given it – and is NOT merely an economic competitor to the US and the West.

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        • Esther says:

          Steven:
          BOO HOO, BWAHHHAAAHAH. Cry me a river! How is any of this our problem?? Do you listen to yourself at all?

          “There is simply no way to make our products in the US and sell in the markets well sell because none of the infrastructure exists in the US or Europe.” SO WHAT? there are many more developing countries that your company could move to, only they would probably have to pay a bit more and not exact slave labor for maximum profit.

          “The only reason the US child company exists was because the Asian company sourced parts from Qualcomm (not anymore) and they needed US expertise in Cloud Services (which they need less and less).” LET’S TRANSLATE THE REAL FACTS

          The only reason your company had any offices in the USA at all is to embed Chinese spies in our Country, have access to US Dollars, and have a fund for the spoiled communist privileged elite to get visas and move money around. In short, your company is nothing but a FRONT. Even if that office had a hundred employees instead of a dozen, our NATIONAL INTEREST COMES FIRST!! We have a booming job market with over a million jobs to be filled. Corporations are using H1 visas to bring in all types of foreigners to work here. If you and your co-workers are competent employees you’ll be scooped up in this competitive job market. It’s time Americans stop fronting for China and its schemes to harm our Country. I’m glad as hell ( if you actually are talking about a real company) that Trump is making it impossible for it to survive on US soil anymore.

          Bon Chance, Sayonoro and toodles, say Hello to HRC and CNN while you’re on your way out.

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      • Pa Hermit says:

        Sympathy lies somewhere in the dictionary between shi(i)t(e) and syphilis!

        Liked by 1 person

      • SoCal Patriot says:

        Amen…I wonder if the guy you responded to sat around and fretted about the millions of Americans that lost their jobs to outsourcing in China.

        Liked by 1 person

        • Dutchman says:

          Agree no sympathy, there IS a valuable point in there.
          The whole thing of Globalisation is that it created these “multinational conglomerates”, that are really not just “trans national”, but NON- National.

          They have NO ‘vested interest’ in ANY nation, and this has all SORTS of ramifications.

          For one thing, it facillitates, as Sundance has,written about , the ability of these companies to get around anti-trust laws of individual nations, the whole “price of a widget or lemon” in Sundances writings on MAGANOMICS.

          They put their headquarters, often little more than a mailbox or small office, in a low corporate tax country, manufacturing in another, source materials from another, for sale of products in still another.

          And with there only loyalty, to their bottom line.

          Liked by 16 people

          • GB Bari says:

            Great comment, Dutchman.

            Liked by 2 people

          • grlangworth says:

            The primary outcome of globalism is the total destruction of the consumer society: Moving labor costs into earnings per share is the 21st Century version of corporate cannibalism. The most brilliant privateers of our era are eating their retail markets wholesale. Customer extinction is not their goal, but it most definitely will be their harvest.

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          • dgc says:

            ‘The whole thing of Globalisation is that it created these “multinational conglomerates”, that are really not just “trans national”, but NON- National.’

            I have a problem with the semantics of language that we have been using. Such companies should be called what they truly are: mercenaries!

            Perhaps these ‘multinational conglomerates’ should consider that nations do not usually afford any protections to mercenaries, legal or otherwise? Let’s see how ‘sovereign’ their cash flow makes them…

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          • Let’s ponder the potential for Trump Tactics, Dutchman.

            POTUS could leave the Multinational Mercenaries to fend for themselves as nation-by-nation tears into their profits with Predatory Litigation over whatever-the-hell cause they choose, from Privacy to Free Speech to Antitrust.

            Bring it, AG Barr: Let the USA pave the way!

            Want help from President Trump?

            Then build his goodwill and political capital:
            • Repatriate ALL your profits.
            • End the Subversion, Sedition and Anarchist Funding.
            • Terminate your Internet Intimidation and end all Doxxing.
            • Open your Suppressive Algorithms to public scrutiny and bias-litigation.
            • Hire Conservative Ombudsmen who operate like Public Inspectors General.

            Otherwise let Big Tech keep screwing themselves into oblivion.

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    • Dennis Leonard says:

      Well I guess it is real simple,move to China,if that is where you want to do buisness.

      Liked by 4 people

    • Free Speech says:

      Did you even read the article? Trump is trying to ban Chinese companies from US infrastructure. If your company doesn’t import to the US, why do you care? You should quit doing business with any company beholden to the technology theft, spying, meddling and sabotage of the Chinese military.

      Liked by 7 people

      • Steven Edwards says:

        Maybe you misunderstood so let me try again: we sell devices to the rest of the world, that rest of the world is moving forward with Chinese tech because it works now, today, they already have the largest 5G infrastructure on the planet, so our hardware and software has to work with it if we want to sell products on those markets.

        I already have coworkers today who have phones they bought in China for use here and there on business asking, how long until I can’t bring my phone in to the US, how are we going to import devices for testing, how do we hire engineers who can work on our products.

        Our problems have nothing to do with importing devices to the US and everything to do with the disruption to the global supply chain.

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        • We feel your pain, but you are a casualty of war. At least you didn’t die on the beaches of Normandy, or in the jungles of Vietnam. The world is a tough place.

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        • Free Speech says:

          https://thehackernews.com/2018/10/china-spying-server-chips.html
          This is about more than just technology theft. This is, as POTUS says, a national security issue. Who knows how long the Chinese have been up to this monkey business? You can’t trust anything the Chinese military gets its hands on, and right now, they FORCE companies who do business there to submit to them. This was DUMB on the part of those companies to ever submit to this, and to foolishly believe the Chinese authoritarians were going to be dragged along into Western trade practices without being held accountable for 30 years. Your company is going to have to rip off the band-aid because the kind of stuff in the above article is not tolerable.

          POTUS would not be doing this if the Chinese were not trying to still sneak their sabotage surreptitiously into this country, even after he’s gone after Huawei.

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        • Mark Simpson says:

          Well, China’s “tech” was built on the back of stealing Western tech, it ultimately led to the bankruptcy of Nortel. Besides standards are standards, it’s it’s adhering to 5G, that doesn’t matter. Either case, no sympathy here, maybe find a Western employer.

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          • Sunshine says:

            I have no pity for anyone that works, either directly or indirectly, for a Chinese company.

            I had stocks in Nortel. It went from great to worthless almost overnight. A lot of people ended up with no job. The CHINESE hacked it. Some 94,000 jobs were at stake.

            NORTEL & HUAWEI: ”In 2004, it was discovered that crackers gained almost-complete access to Nortel’s systems. Beginning in 2000, for nearly ten years, they accessed documents including emails, technical papers, research, development reports, and business plans. The breach was not properly addressed by the time the company started selling some of its assets in 2009, following a bankruptcy filing. The Wall Street Journal reports that hackers working from Chinese IP addresses had used seven passwords of Nortel executives, including a former CEO, to penetrate networks owned by the company.

            Shields alleged that the hacking may have benefited Chinese competitors such as Huawei (who had served as a contract manufacturer for Nortel) and ZTE.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nortel#Espionage_and_hacks

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            • Kitty-Kat says:

              The first paragraph that appeared in your link:

              :In September 1991, Julian Assange of WikiLeaks was discovered in the act of hacking into the Melbourne master terminal of Nortel.[121]:

              I did not know that about him.

              Then the article went on to describe the Chinese hacking.

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        • TreeClimber says:

          I for one don’t allow thieves access to my home just because they happen to have the latest and best anti-home security tech.

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        • Bigly says:

          Steven is making several practical points – shutting down markets will have downstream impact on a long term scale. Good or bad, I’d like to hear what he has to say – he is living it much deeper than most others.

          To respond with – tough sh*t , get a job in America! This is war, et al is really unserious and childish. Let the man speak. We are mature enough to reach our own conclusions without the “just die” responses. Good grief peps, let’s learn from those impacted not just tell them to shut up and deal.

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          • Deb says:

            The millions and millions who have already been impacted by this 30 year trade war with China are the ones we have listening too for decades, and they are the reason we voted for PDJT.

            Now we are supposed to feel sorry for those who will lose their jobs working for the enemy?

            On a human level I do feel sorry for them, but we need to win this war. They’ll have to find other jobs, just like the coal miners and steel workers who were told they should “learn to code.”

            That’s not childish, it’s realistic. The person complaining about his own job when the security of his entire nation is at stake is the one being childish. I can say that because my family has risked their lives for three generations in the US military to secure our nation, I don’t think it’s childish to expect someone to find a new job in order to do the same.

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          • TCG says:

            Steve’s point is the same point as always. “Beware: don’t get too serious about the trade war. China is the FUTURE! Get on board the China train or get left behind!”

            Screw the both of you. It’s a lie. The time has come to try a different approach.

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            • dgc says:

              China is the FUTURE?

              A massive, AI-based surveillance state which monitors your every movement, gives you a social score in real-time based on your adherence to prescribed ideology and can deny you access to financial resources with the toggle of a switch…I don’t think so, unless you are a Marxist or know-nothing, millennial twat?

              Why don’t you ask the people of Hong Kong how they feel about China being ‘The FUTURE’? Or perhaps you could ask the people in those nations who have been screwed by China’s ‘One Belt, One Road’ initiative? Hell, why don’t you ask the nearly 1 BILLION Chinese nationals who don’t live in the coastal cities what their sentiments are?

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              • Pf1289 says:

                TCG’s response was to Bigly. The two of you referred to Bigly and Steven. It was confusing to me too for a second. You have to look at the structure of the thread to realize who TCG was responding to. It wasn’t the reply right above his own. Then it makes sense.

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              • Garrison Hall says:

                In this country the authoritarian future is called “behavioral economics”. Read Cass Sunstein’s “Nudge”.

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          • Kitty-Kat says:

            Like*****

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        • skaebne says:

          I worked at Bell Laboratories when AT&T set the world’s standards for telecom equipment. We laid the groundwork for cellular communications, which required a ground-up redesign of the PSN. We partnered with and cultivated a small tech company called Qualcomm. What remained of this technology arm of AT&T was ultimately sold to Nokia.
          Following that, I went to work at a tech start up working on critical cellphone technology; I personally invented an enabling technology that is used in every cellphone today. The principals sold the company, and the Chinese buyers packed everything up and moved it to Shanghai; key personnel moved their families to Shanghai, or lost their job (like me).
          My point is that China’s dominance in tech manufacturing is our own doing: Everybody went fab-less because it was environmentally prohibitive to operate manufacturing facilities in the US and government policies made it impossible to have a vertically integrated company (Judge Harold Greene and Senator Tim Wirth). Everybody at Western Electric lost their jobs, too, as you now fear.
          Trump understands how we got where we are today, and he understands that we cannot reclaim the shop that we gave away, we have to build a new shop. Our own government — along with a self-hatred worthy of Ocasio-Cortez that motivated the self-destruction of our technological capability — mandated the fire-sale of our technology base, and only government intervention can create an environment in which we can rebuild it.
          Your days were always numbered; count yourself lucky you’ve survived this long. I have survived — barely — by maintaining my technical skills and continually pushing the farthest fringes of new technology. I suggest, as a patriot, you do the same, even though it may seem like your country no longer values you. The best of us are still better than anything China can produce . I am. We have a duty to our country to lay a new foundation for technology production.

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        • Esther says:

          Steve, you’ve got something stuck up your rear, and unfortunately it is your head. We do understand you, much better than you can imagine. This is CTR, not the DNC or HRC’s twitter you’re posting to. Your problems have to do with your refusal to accept that we and President Trump are putting AMERICA FIRST, PERIOD.

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    • tdaly14 says:

      They’re Communists for crying out loud. We don’t care if we ever do business with that freaking Commie country period! We don’t have one family member or friends that do either.

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      • 3rdday61 says:

        Thank you!!!!
        I was hoping I didn’t have to keep harping on that fact.

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      • Kitty-Kat says:

        I remember when globalism started to change everything, my hope was that China would be swayed by trade and wealth to voluntarily transform itself into a democracy. That didn’t pan out, but quality of life did improve in the micro sense as the people got jobs.

        One thing I do not want to be hearing about is China being beaten down into famine … I’m wondering what President Trump has in mind as the endgame. I have been thinking a “Marshall Plan” for building up NOKO will enrich both China and NoKo.

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      • beaujest says:

        Like the “Turtle “ !

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    • USTerminator says:

      If your company does not know how to divest your operation outside of China to SE Asian countries then that is your problem. China is no longer cheap manufacturing country for your $40 phone. Vietnam might save you $3 – $5 per phone easy.

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      • CopperTop says:

        Steven E in the ‘trillions’ at stake this is blow back for you. Understood. Bummer you’ve put your time in. But ultimately you’ll wonder why you ‘fussed’

        The innovation that comes from your team of engineers. Simply cannot be matched by your conglomerate.

        Every darn one of you will be ‘let go ‘ from the conglomerate and re-hired as a consultant because of this. Unless you find out you have created the next best thing that excites you again about Tech Dev in some American company that keeps you local…you’ll be jet setting a bit more…but you’l be secure in the wallet.

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      • USTerminator says:

        Steven, find another job. It seems your company is own by Chinese and it is on the way out of US anyway. It is chaos for you to find another job but it is much easy to find one now. I worked for a contract manufacturer with factory in China and it is a pain in the rear so I quitted and get a domestic manufacturer and also in Vietnam. They moved from China as well and never look back.

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      • sucesfuloser says:

        Your company puts un-representative Globalism, over Nationalistic elections. You reap the infidelity you have sown.

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    • Owwm says:

      Wow. I feel so sorry. In my 32 years within manufacturing management I have suffered eight plant closures costing over 2,000 people their employment. All in rural west kentucky. “Small” companies like Ingersoll-Rand, Siemens, Raytheon, General Tire, Johnson Controls have all left for NAFTA , right to work and lower taxed areas.

      A dozen people. Wow.
      I search indeed every day. Zero jobs over 50K a year within 50 miles other than fake truck driving positions.
      Put one of these factories here and watch it exceed expectations.

      The centrifugal compressor plant was the most porcitable for IR in the world. Only left to bust the union. Kentucky is a right to work state now.

      Oh. The local hydrostatic transmission plant pays $11.80/hr and gets degree holding persons for that.
      So much for $15 an hour.

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      • Steven Edwards says:

        So because someone ****Ed you over, that means it is ok to **** over others. Got it

        It is cute, you think any of this means those jobs will come back. Meanwhile in the real world and even in this forum the answer is ‘go to Vietnam’.

        That is your fellow Treepers saying that.

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        • CopperTop says:

          See my comment above. Fellow Treeper understanding your concern but also understands not just your fear but what is ACTUALLY ahead for you. It’s my job to know and I have been waiting 25 years for a POTUS who finally knows it too.

          You will be BETTER than GREAT.

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        • America First says:

          Almost right there Steve, but it is Fellow Patriots responding to you. No comforting words for anything involving commies. Americans have more than suffered whilst building China.

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        • USTerminator says:

          Vietnam is a stop gap. The final solution must be fair and balance trade with all countries. The problem is the Uniparty does not want fair and balance trade because they can make more money on 1 sided trade. PDJT is working hard for it but have to push up with all the road blocks by Uniparty Globalists

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        • Frank says:

          It looks like you want to blame us for disrupting your life. Steven, if you’re about to lose your job with a multinational company, then it’s time to find other work. What else do you want anyone to say to you?

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        • Bigly says:

          Thanks for sharing, Steven. Many more of us want to hear what you have to say than not…and most of us aren’t just responding with “get another job” – rough road ahead. It’s hard to know how this all will pan out. Chin up – and do keep sharing.

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        • Esther says:

          Steve, GO AWAY! You’re like one of those flies that keep buzzing around Okenyan’s head whenever he’s being interviewed. He attracts them because they like ‘crap’. You’d be better off approaching the Dimms to run for one of their open slots. That way you’ll have a captive brainwashed audience to robotically encourage you to keep on selling your soul to China. You’ve got an English/American sounding pseudonym, but most likely your real name is Sun Lee-Chin or something of the sort. You’re not worth anyone’s further attention.

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      • snellvillebob says:

        Get Kentucky to change it a right to work state and watch the companies move back in.

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      • Kitty-Kat says:

        ” Only left to bust the union”

        That is exactly why a lot of businesses turned to the globalist model in the first place. I’ve been wondering if the problems from back then will eventually re-emerge.

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    • covfefe999 says:

      Let’s see, a dozen people who have to find new jobs (there are more now than before) OR subjecting all of our communications to Chinese surveillance. Which one should we choose?

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    • Ralph Kramden says:

      Well, Steve, when it comes to a career path, you seem to have chosen, unwisely. Not your fault, no one saw Trump coming. But he’s here, and he’s correct.

      But, let me get your complaint straight: you are concerned that the United States, in order to protect itself, will jeopardize your particular, minuscule situation? Ok,not just you, but the tens of people you work with? Is that the gist of your comment?

      You’re really going to say that? Perspective, my friend, perspective.

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  4. georgehumphries9802 says:

    “I’m at stake” – said every deplorable American.

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  5. JohnCarlson says:

    There is nothing more difficult to take in hand, more perilous to conduct, or more uncertain in its success, than to take the lead in the introduction of a new order of things.
    – Niccolo Machiavelli

    In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot.
    – Mark Twain

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  6. joebkonobi says:

    Yep, as much as I want the deep state to be busted for election interference, etc., the most important thing is PDJT getting another 4 years in the oval! Otherwise we as a constitutional republic are toast.

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    • Esther says:

      joebknobi – Trump getting reelected and busting the deep stated for election interference are symbiotically one and the same. They go hand in glove. Consider how many votes were stolen by the Dimms in 2018, they found hundreds of thousands of votes weeks and even months after there were clear Republican winners to flip the results. They are definitely interfering in places like Oregon where they’ve passed laws to eliminate the Constitutionally apportionment of votes via the Electoral college, now making it state law they will apply ‘popular vote’ to how the Presidential vote is assigned. There are 15 FIFTEEN States in the Union that have passed these laws or tried to pass them. Nevada’s governor vetoed the passage of a similar bill in his State. This is real. Election interference is not by foreigners, just like 2018, its by the Dimms and illegal immigrants.

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  7. Cowboy79 says:

    There’s a big security risk for US if China controls the chipsets and tower technology.
    See this paper, pgs 24 onward.
    https://media.defense.gov/2019/Apr/03/2002109302/-1/-1/0/DIB_5G_STUDY_04.03

    Whoever controls the 5G specification will control a large part of the world’s telecommunications as well as their military reach in real time situations. I for one would not trust that level of control to China. Whatever gets chosen, there’s a need to perform a diagnostic on the chipsets to ensure there aren’t any “unwanted instructions”.

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    • Steven Edwards says:

      China already has the tech, the US is struggling to catch up. Because of the leaks from Snowden showing how the US compromised devices and inserted its spying on the supply chain, the rest of the world favored having the Chinese develop their own tech.

      This is not China’s fault and has everything to do with Five Eyes.

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      • Pa Hermit says:

        Just maybe we can steal their technology just like they steal ours! “What goes around, comes around.”

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      • USTerminator says:

        F*ck China. If US 5G needs time then so be it. There is no need China 5G or anything for that matter. Trump should black listed all China companies. We need decoupling from China.

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      • covfefe999 says:

        I don’t see how we would be struggling to catch up to any China tech since they steal everything from us. I don’t think they’ve ever had an original idea.

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          • technoaesthete says:

            That article is talking about implementation, not the technology itself. Sure, if we had state owned companies the FedGov could pour money into rolling out the technology. With privately owned companies, the rollout will take longer. So what?

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            • Esther says:

              The technology China has , including 5G was STOLEN, because they lack the creativity to innovate, HRC and the cabal sold it for pennies via her basement server. With the hundreds of billions allocated to the military and DOD, American innovation will top anything the chinese stole. Trump has said as much, that our military is now ahead. The people who keep saying China is ahead are the same who keep a static number of 11 million illegals for over 25 years. Every fool knows it’s a load of horse puck. i’m betting when Trump does indeed hit Iran for downing that plane, he’ll give a small glimpse of just how far ahead we really are with our technological advances, 5G and otherwise.

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      • BobBoxBody says:

        Once we start building orbital alloys and materials manufacturing facilities run by AI (which is why Trump wants a “space force”) we’ll be leaving China and the rest of the world in the dust. Trump knows the tech gap narrowed because of IP theft by China and other stupid decisions by prior administrations. He also knows how to catapault us back way back into first place again.

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      • Cowboy79 says:

        China already has “their” tech. The one they want everyone to jump on, buy, and implement. The question remains as to whether or not that is a wise move for the long term and in terms of national security.

        The frequencies chosen by China to operate their 5G platform interfere with US military frequencies. You don’t suppose they chose those frequencies for a reason?

        4G works just fine if the latency isn’t a killer. Gee. You have to wait a second or two more to get YouTube. I don’t see how that convenience trumps security.
        5G is great to have, convenient, etc. But is the Chinese version of 5G so great that everything else no longer matters?

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        • USTerminator says:

          Why 5G is important? It is not about how fast your internet will be (true that it will be faster but it won’t make much different from your LTE 4G) it is about connect all machines together. Every 5G node can connect to 30 millions devices and they all collecting data from you regardless you agree or not. You can say oh I don’t have any smart device so they can not spy on me. Wrong!!! people around you, devices on public places, your neighbors’ devices can spy on you and report to whoever controls it.

          Whoever controls 5G will control the world. There is no hiding place….

          https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/07/business/huawei-russia-china-splinternet-intl/index.html?fbclid=IwAR1k0c9sIvNcN_quy42k0ZGbsAYxY3dVxQqoakvKz31J5iY5cmMfcSSvvtg

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        • USTerminator says:

          HERE IS WHY HUAWEI BEING BANNED and SHOULD BE BANNED

          “China is building their enforcement mechanism in the technology, and so that means that they can enforce it. They can enforce it on the network, they can enforce it at the device level. They can enforce it through their undersea cable system. They essentially are taking control of the underlying technological structure because they recognize that just writing a law is not sufficient in a digital world. You actually need the ability to divert data, to decrypt data, to monitor what’s going on, and then if you need to, you need to be able to suppress speech. You need to be able to influence populations, you need to be able to influence individuals. What more powerful way to do that than with a hyperconnected 5G system that allows you to have access to devices, that allows your companies to be dominant in e-commerce. It allows your companies to be dominant in surveillance and reconnaissance like DJI and [Hikvision] the video company .. that has artificial intelligence, facial recognition that’s basically was sold [to] many of our military bases and others.”

          https://www.theepochtimes.com/chinas-strategy-against-trump-and-america-trade-war-huawei-5g-gen-robert-spalding_2949446.html

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          • Cowboy79 says:

            “The answer really is if you are so hyperconnected to a country that doesn’t understand rule of law, doesn’t understand private property, doesn’t understand individual liberty, and doesn’t understand the sovereignty of the American people and the American nation, then you have to decouple. That’s the only way that you can actually protect yourself. If you embrace China, you will lose.”

            Methinks USA has no rational need of Chinese 5G anything. Keep the 4G and armor up.

            I do not have any IOT stuff, nor do I want them. Too much risk. Those who sell their sovereignty for convenience sake are likely to end up losing both things.

            The CCP does not have any interests but their own. Beware their 5G honey pot.

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      • yucki says:

        This is not China’s fault and has everything to do with Five Eyes.=]
        That’s out of a Confucious Institute presentation…….

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      • Joemama says:

        BS. I still only get the equivalent of 2G service most of the time, due to lousy signal strength or overcrowding on the cell tower links. This is in LA, CA and it doesn’t matter where I go in the city.

        Maybe with 5G, I will finally get 3G equivalent service, or even solid 2G equivalent service.

        Recently went to a large high school graduation, sent text messages to other family members to try to coordinate where we would sit together as a group. Didn’t happen, never connected with the rest of the family. Everybody got the text messages hours later after the graduation ceremony, while driving home.

        The compression used on voice calls is so lossy now, many calls are completely unintelligible.

        5G will not be much better. No carrier will invest in the massive increase in infrastructure to create the data bandwidth that is being hyped for 5G. Millimeter frequencies are severely attenuated by the atmosphere. There is no way any carrier is going to install 100X the number of cell sites to compensate for the decreased range of millimeter frequencies.

        5G is largely smoke and mirrors. In small areas, where massive increases of cell sites are installed, it may result in significant improvements in bandwidth and carrier capacity, but that is only likely to happen where carriers can charge a premium for the service. Rural areas, mountainous/hilly areas, etc. will see no significant improvements, if any improvements at all.

        Fine with waiting a few more years, rather than giving the f’ing communist party in china a high volume data pipe to create a dossier on me and my family. It’s bad enough that the cultural marxists in silicon valley have this capability.

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  8. I can’t wait for the G-20 Summit. The days that follow it will be newsworthy indeed!

    Takin’ names.

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  9. 335blues says:

    America cannot have ANY, WHOLE OR IN PART, COMMUNIST CHINESE 5G equipment within our borders.

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    • jmclever says:

      Don’t worry. It will break very soon and can easily be replaced by an American made item. One thing you can count on with stuff made in China is that it doesnt last.

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  10. covfefe999 says:

    I wish he’d ban all of the cheap crap that clogs eBay. 500 Chinese sellers selling the same item multipled by 1 million items. Unless you’re looking for vintage items (which is what I’m usually on there for) it’s almost impossible to weed out the Chinese crap.

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    • Esther says:

      Covfefe999 – Trump has already put in place a plan to do just that. You see, he’s started the 6mth process to withdraw from an aged agreement that controls postal rates worldwide. Trump will have America OUT OF THE 144 YEAR POSTAL PACT. This pact permits extremely favorable rates to China based at the time it was agreed on, due to China being a very underdeveloped and poor nation. Because of this, a Chinese businessman/seller can send their crappy products to buyers in the USA via Ebay/Amazon etc., for mere pennies ( ALL SUPPLEMENTED BY US TAXPAYER DOLLARS). Here at home, our postal rates have gone through the sky, and therefore we cannot reciprocally send products into china even if they could afford to buy them. Once we are out of that deal October 2019, the playing field will be level.

      i’m betting you won’t see all those adverts for cheap china goods on ebay, because the Sellers will automatically have to pay more and as such the profit margin for them will be completely erased. US buyers will not pay the higher more competitive prices for the same cheap crap. They’ll turn to US made stuff, or stuff made in Vietnam, India and elsewhere.
      Not only is Trump a Very Stable Genius, he is A LOYAL PATRIOT!!

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  11. franuche says:

    While we’re at it, how ‘bout no US military equipment using Chinese parts of any kind?

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  12. Dutchman says:

    And this story comes out NOW, just before G20.
    NOT in the NYT’s or Wapo, but in the Wall Street Journal.
    PDJT sending Xi a message? Like, if you think I’m gonna let up cause you are being forced, by me, to ‘let go’of N.Korea, ….
    Forgetaboutit! Just getting started with the pressure, Xi so you better get used to it!
    Hey, BKR!
    High FIVE, mothertrucker! I am jumpin and fist pumpin, and sure you are, too!

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  13. Paul B. says:

    This is HUGE.

    GOD BLESS THIS PRESIDENT. Evil China must be stopped now, while it still remains possible to do so.

    “He broke me” – Xi

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  14. tav144 says:

    Love that Winnie the Pooh meme. Too bad Pooh is banned in China. LOL

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  15. jmclever says:

    My son is an IT professional and he tells me that it’s unbelievable the number of components made in China that attempt to “phone home” or “shake hands” with China…things you wouldn’t necessarily expect to try and remote connect…

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    • Monadnock says:

      jm

      If you tend toward building your own computers and experimenting w/same, see what your son recommends in terms of hardware – I’d be curious to know if the current state of the art in software firewalls can deal with things embedded in the hardware that are “phoning home.”

      When I build a desktop computer, I try to isolate it completely until I have it set-up exactly like I want it to be, including having Zone Alarm initially set-up to block pretty much everything.

      It never ceases to amaze me how many connection attempts it blocks, and that’s probably just software boogers looking for a way to talk to mama. No idea if it will clamp down on hardware doing the same thing.

      I just assume that I have no privacy and conduct myself online accordingly.

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      • Cowboy79 says:

        That’s why my computer is a custom Linux system that is sandboxed.

        No Win system ought be connected to the net b/c it is such a vulnerable architecture.

        Air gap all Win systems or suffer the consequences. No, Linux isn’t invulnerable and yes, it has its own problems, but an open Win system is guaranteed to compromise your data in 24 hrs.

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    • covfefe999 says:

      A lot of the vulnerability is because consumers don’t set up their devices securely. Brian Krebs has a great list of things to do. I would add Rule #0: don’t connect your device to the internet unless you really need to. you don’t want your “smart” fridge to become part of a botnet.

      https://krebsonsecurity.com/2018/01/some-basic-rules-for-securing-your-iot-stuff/

      Rule #1: Avoid connecting your devices directly to the Internet (use a firewall)
      Rule #2: If you can, change the thing’s default credentials

      There are more. Well worth reading. For Rule #2 he says “if you can” because some devices don’t even allow you to change the credentials.

      Great paper here: https://www.usenix.org/system/files/conference/usenixsecurity17/sec17-antonakakis.pdf

      About the big denial-of-service Mirai attack of 2016, the researchers wrote “The manufacturers responsible for the most infected devices we could identify are: Dahua, Huawei, ZTE, Cisco, ZyXEL, and MikroTik” 5 of the 6 are Chinese companies and I would guess that the Cisco devices use Chinese parts..

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      • jmclever says:

        And who even needs a wi fi enabled fridge or coffee pot?! In my mind those things being marketed and sold reeks of Big Brother stuff. But who would’ve thought that BB speaks engrish?

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  16. Free Speech says:

    Sorry, “free trade” globalists. Time to sell the polo ponies. I want an independent nation, my privacy and my freedom, even if it cuts into your profits.

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  17. slowcobra says:

    What scares me is, isn’t china making our airplane chips? Something in the control panel?

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  18. jimg972 says:

    How likely is China to try to spy through backdoor hacks? Check out this article:

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-10-04/the-big-hack-how-china-used-a-tiny-chip-to-infiltrate-america-s-top-companies

    A chip the size of a grain of rice was added to a server motherboard giving China a backdoor into the server. This chip was NOT part of the original design. This was added at the factory in China. It doesn’t affect the performance of the server.

    This level of sophistication can only come from a state-sponsored source.

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  19. eddielaidler says:

    I would love to see us make this the ultimate national security issue. We built the Hoover Dam for christ sake. The Golden Gate bridge. We mobilized for WWII. Let’s just get it done and rediscover our grit.

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  20. Shop says:

    The single biggest issue in 5G deployment is spectrum. Europe, China and the rest of Asia including Japan have licensed mid-band spectrum for 5G.

    The US where politics and lobbyists rule, they have licensed millimeter wave bands for 5G. At these high frequencies the waves bounce off walls and they don’t travel very far requiring more higher density equipment.

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  21. nerveman says:

    We need to rediscover our grit. We built the Hoover Dam,the Golden Gate Bridge and mobilized for WWII. Make this the ultimate national security issue and wrest control of 5g. Let’s just own it. Trillions at stake. It takes will.

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  22. simicharmed says:

    Black-List and….Red, White and Blue-List this tech-scheme! It’s a tech-fraud anyway it is sliced up.

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  23. grlangworth says:

    Standards bodies are the place where this Rule-of-Law Conflict with China has arrived:
    https://www.lightreading.com/open-source/standards-specs/tech-specs-groups-to-us-commerce-dept-give-us-clarity-on-huawei/d/d-id/752299?

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  24. Deb says:

    5G cell towers could be a cancer risk. A school near a tower ended up having an unusually high cancer rate among students and teachers, and the parents blame 5G.

    The tech overlords treat us like guinea pigs.

    https://www.modbee.com/news/article227459649.html

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  25. Phil McCoxwell says:

    Two words……”supply chain”. This gobbledygook term was created by some idiot with an MBA who never had a real job. It used to be most companies made the majority of their components in house and farmed out certain component to a nearby supplier. A small company within driving distance. A company that employed people you would bump into at a little league game with your kids. A supplier who would bend over backwards to earn your business. Now, they use “supply chains”……which are basically shell companies destined for bankruptcy once the large corporation has sucked the guts out of it and then looks to China for a more “competitive” bid. All big commerce is based on the rolling 12 week quarterly earnings report. Do whatever has to be done to manipulate the number……not for investors, but for management……..a bunch of idiots with MBAs who have figured out how to suck the guts out of not only “supply chains” but also the very companies they supposedly work for. So, disrupting the supply chain is okie dokie by me. I am all for making a profit, but we need to have a vested interest in the well being of our society at the same time….a strategy that exceeds the 12 week earnings report.

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  26. Phil McCoxwell says:

    I would also like to add, I don’t have anything against MBAs. It’s the idiots I have an issue with.

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  27. LCPUSA says:

    I share all these China articles where normies and democrats can see them.

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  28. LCPUSA says:

    I share all these China articles where normies and democrats can see them.

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  29. Doc Moore says:

    “…administration officials are asking tech companies and telecom equipment makers if they can develop U.S. hardware including cellular-tower electronics as well as routers and switches, and software from sourcing completely outside China.”

    Isn’t that a bit like asking a bird if it can fly? It is all about money and market position. We have the ability to dominate and control all relevant activities if the money and market are properly structured.

    THere are numerous reasons why we should, and national, if not global, security is on top of that list.

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