Report: John Durham Questioning CIA Officials About Intelligence Community Assessment…

The New York Times has a report this evening surrounding U.S. Attorney John Durham questioning CIA officials about the origination of the Trump-Russia investigation.

However, a closer look at the substance underneath the NYT reporting and it doesn’t actually look like Durham is questioning the CIA about the investigation itself; rather it appears he is questioning the CIA about how they came to the conclusions within the January 7th, 2017, Intelligence Community Assessment, or ICA.

(New York Times) […] Mr. Barr wants to know more about the C.I.A. sources who helped inform its understanding of the details of the Russian interference campaign, an official has said. He also wants to better understand the intelligence that flowed from the C.I.A. to the F.B.I. in the summer of 2016.

During the final weeks of the Obama administration, the intelligence community released a declassified assessment that concluded that Mr. Putin ordered an influence campaign that “aspired to help” Mr. Trump’s electoral chances by damaging Mrs. Clinton’s. The C.I.A. and the F.B.I. reported they had high confidence in the conclusion. The National Security Agency, which conducts electronic surveillance, had a moderate degree of confidence. (read more)

Questioning the construct of the ICA is a smart direction to take for a review or investigation.  By looking at the intelligence community work-product, it’s likely Durham will cut through a lot of the chatter and get to the heart of the intelligence motives.

CTH has previously outlined how the December 29th, 2016, Joint Analysis Report on Russia Cyber Activity was a quickly compiled bunch of nonsense about Russian hacking. The JAR was followed a week later by the January 7th, 2017, Intelligence Community Assessment.   The ICA took the ridiculous construct of the JAR and then overlaid a political narrative that Russia was trying to help Donald Trump.

The claims within the ICA were/are completely silly, and manufactured specifically to present a political narrative intended to undermine President-elect Donald Trump.  The ICA was the brain-trust of John Brennan, James Clapper and James Comey.  NSA Director Mike Rogers would not sign up to the “high confidence” claims, likely because he saw through the political motives of the report.

Apparently John Durham is looking into just this aspect:  Was the ICA document a politically engineered report stemming from within a corrupt intelligence network?

The importance of that question is rather large.  All of the downstream claims about Russian activity, including the Russian indictments promoted by Rosenstein and the Mueller team, are centered around origination claims of illicit Russian activity outlined in the ICA.

If the ICA is a false political document…. then guess what?

Yep, the entire narrative from the JAR and ICA is part of a big fraud. [Which it is]

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329 Responses to Report: John Durham Questioning CIA Officials About Intelligence Community Assessment…

  1. Blind no Longer says:

    This is huge!!! First time I can ever remember the CIA-Intelligence community having to answer for their actions, or in the words of “I spy” Obama’s favorite pastor…..Their chickens are coming home to roost.

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    • John-Y128 says:

      Yeah the CIA’s charter prohibits domestic meddling, they should stick with international interference in other countries affairs, not here at home.

      According to Beto and Harris we need to ‘hold accountable’, (not being above the law) the last administration, well before it’s PDJT turn at accountability, he needs more transparency time like Obama/Biden’s to measure his totality of obstruction, maybe after 2024.

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    • Mike says:

      We know for sure that the ICA was a political document. After Trump was elected, Obama said he wanted the assessment done immediately and the results on his desk before he left office.

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    • Laramie Evan says:

      Agreed. This is HUGE. It’s the right set of questions to start with.

      The Law of Parsimony states: “The simplest solution is most likely the right one.” (Sometimes misrepresented as Occam’s Razor)

      There was no Russian interference with the election. They didn’t hack the DNC and didn’t give any emails to Wikipedia. How do we know?

      – The DNC never turned over its servers to law enforcement for forensic examination. Why?

      – A group of about 20 former intel execs examined the metadata associated with the “hacked” DNC emails and concluded that it had to be an inside job due to the data transfer rate. No current intel official has ever addressed this. Why?

      – Julian Assange says the Russians didn’t give Wikileaks these emails. Say what you want about Assange, but he’s got a stellar track record for truth. Why would he lie about this?

      – The ICA assessment itself was prepared by intel officials hand-picked by Brennan and Clapper. If you know anything about intelligence assessments, you know that this is never done and itself runs counter to the very idea of such an assessment. Why do it here?

      There are a dozen or so additional anomalies I could throw up, including many in the ICA itself, or about Crowdstrike’s bona fides.

      In response to these issues, there are a whole bunch of convoluted explanations you have to trot out to maintain the “Russia hack” narrative. But there’s one simple explanation: There was no Russian hack.

      Which then leads to the real question our media should have been examining for the past 3 years. Our intel officials and the Obama administration would lead us to the brink of war with a nuclear-armed adversary to cover up their misdeeds? They would falsely try to pin this whole thing on Russia, putting everyone in the country in harm’s way, so that their tracks would be covered? So that a legitimately elected president would be hamstrung? So that they could forestall jail time?

      Yup.

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  2. k4jjj says:

    You are correct. Everyone in the FBI were recruited from Leftist universities. They did not hire seasoned street cops. The FBI culture is rotten to the core. It is Leftist to the core.

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    • Nunes alluded to the broken culture at the FBI on Hannity tonight. He noted that there were retired FBI agents in the House today that were not shocked/upset by evidence of FBI corruption.

      Of course Sean cut him off but it was an important comment from Nunes. VDH’s piece yesterday echoed this issue too.

      Likely CIA agents infected with the same virus.

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        • Mark McQueen says:

          VDH’s conclusion…read carefully.

          “Fairly or not, the current FBI tragedy is that an American citizen should be duly worried about his constitutional rights any time he is approached by such senior FBI officials. That is not a slur on the rank and file, but the legacy of the supposed best and brightest of the agency and their distortions of the bureau’s once professional creed.”

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          • Mike says:

            I am tired of hearing that just a handful of people at the top tried to stage a coup against candidate Trump, President-elect Trump, and President Trump. It literally took hundreds if not thousands of people to surveil the Trump campaign and transition teams and Administration. Where were the whistleblowers? The Resistance was/is wide and deep in the FBI, DOJ, State, CIA, NSA, and other agencies. And enlisting foreign intelligence agencies in this endeavor is contemptible and frightening. We need a thorough housecleaning. There has to be accountability.

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            • testpointwp says:

              One whistleblower commented on this forum recently, that they have no protection. They can leave the agency quietly with finances and reputation intact or be destroyed and forced out.

              Even when the court finds in favor of the whistleblower, nothing changes internally (e.g. Wray’s “bias” training). It’s evident that draining the swamp is (still) necessary and urgent.

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            • ibid says:

              Well… we DO know of one field agent in Denver that refused to “take a bullet for him”.

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            • Mark McQueen says:

              I’m tired of all clueless people on the internet who seem to think it’s just a simple matter of speaking out and you become an “instant hero”. I really believe they have themselves fooled into believing they’d do it because they’re so damned virtuous.

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            • John Kelley says:

              These virtuous “rank and file” agents, that we’re told we should respect, are like Bigfoot. Very few people,if any at all, have ever actually seen one. There are some fuzzy pictures of what’s supposed to be one but I have my doubts that any really do. If I had to hazard a guess, I would day there are probably more Bigfoot than “rank and file”.

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        • wlbeattie says:

          Thank you for that link.
          Very good reading!

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        • Linda- thanks very much for posting. I adore VDH, one of our best writers.

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      • donna kovacevic says:

        Hannity is so full of himself. I almost threw my Tim Horton coffee cup at the TV when he interrupted Devin. Sean is a patriot, but he is getting way to high on that horse, patting himself on the back with a smug look on his face. Annoying.

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        • Esther says:

          Hannity may not be perfect, I will grant you that. But He has been basically the only consistent bulldog in the media with a high profile television show that has kept on this corruption night after night. We cannot afford to be attacking our allies just because they are not perfect. I am grateful that recently he has allowed guest hosts to fill in when big news was breaking if they had more skill in that particular area of news. So I would say, constructive criticism occasionally, but let’s show some gratitude to Hannity.

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        • Peppurr says:

          Agree – I saw that with Devon. Cut him off in the middle of what he was saying – and what I wanted to hear!!! He probably needs a vacation. Last nite he was saying he’d been up since 4am to make an appearance on Fox and Friends. He also has a radio show. He may want to analyze quality over quantity.

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    • SSI01 says:

      I’ve said this for many years. They used to ask applicants if they had any law enforcement experience. If any hands went up, those individuals were asked to leave right away. They don’t want prior LE experience – they want to spoon-feed the neophytes the nonsense they get at Quantico about FBI superiority, one day at a time. It must be in the water or in the food. They need to immediately stand down; get the USMS to take their duties for a specified period; purge their ranks completely; cease and desist their current hiring practices and start bringing seasoned police officers or detectives aboard, and hiring from commuter colleges or schools from the Great Midwest, for example. The liberal elitism within its ranks has to end. After 23 years of near-daily contact with them I can tell you it’s not a “minority” of personnel within the FBI who have such a despicable worldview and work habits; it’s the majority. If you want to change the culture within the FBI quickly take a look at whoever has been banished to a remote location or a dead-end position in the Bureau, and find out why that happened. Odds are they ran afoul of the liberal mindset of their low-level management and were dead-ended hoping they would eventually resign. Unearth these people, give each of them a lengthy interview, determine if what they are maintaining is the truth – and promote them and put THEM in positions of responsibility within the FBI. Who remembers the female agent who found irregularities at that flight school, I think it was in FL, that had to do with at least two of the 9/11 hijackers and their flight training. Wasn’t she banished to some dead-end position before eventually being fired? That’s what I’m talking about. There are your new SACs and ASACs, and senior management personnel. Let’s look into them.

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      • Justin Green says:

        The FBI, at its upper ranks, seeks trained sophists, not law enforcement types.

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      • OlderAndWiser says:

        SSI, Excellent! But it’s not just the FBI. Look back at the Presidents for the last 40+ years –
        Ford: Mich guy. Was called stupid.
        Carter: G. Tech (I think) guy – was called Peanut Farmer. And the Kennedy clan almost ran him out – except for Chappaquidick they would have.
        Reagan: Eureka College. Enough said of media coverage of him. Best President in history.
        GHWBush: Yale. Idealized by press. CIA guy. Total swamp.
        Bill Clinton: Yale.
        GWBush: Harvard. Still called stupid because he was a R.
        Obama: Harvard.
        Trump: Penn. Called all kinds of names. 2nd best Pres.

        Then look at the SC: ALL GOT THEIR LAW DEGREES FROM HARVARD OR YALE.

        I would bet a plurarity of the Senators are also Harvard/Yale types.
        And most of the CIA/State Dept are also Harvard/Yale types.

        THIS IS THE ISSUE!!!! Vote out ANY Harvard/Yale people (R or D) from ANY office. Give the country back to the people.

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        • Fake Ruby says:

          Great comment.

          One quibble.

          Jimmy Carter was a U.S. Naval Academy graduate, not Georgia Tech.

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          • OlderAndWiser says:

            Thanks for the correction, Fake Ruby! I remember now.

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          • Esther says:

            You’re right, and if you look at Noname McCain and several other traitors they are all graduates of the Naval Academy. Its to the point when I see Naval Academy, Federalist Society, Harvard and Yale the old spidy senses go off when it comes to Trump picking these people. But our distinguished MAGA Justice Thomas is an Ivy Leaguer too, but has openly REJECTED his alma mater Yale. Even demanded they remove his portrait and not hang any images of him or use his name in any of their advertising/propaganda.
            Also take a look at the Rhodes Scholars. That’s where they really are groomed for the very top on the international stage. Historically, the White House has been full of them.

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        • glissmeister says:

          Snobs playing endless games of “I am better than you because.”

          Show me a socialist and I’ll show you a snob.

          Show me a progressive and I’ll show you a snob nurturing a narcissistic pathology.

          Show me a leftist and I’ll show you a malignant disposition with an inculcated thought disorder.

          “Ye shall know them by their snobbery.”

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        • LoonsCall says:

          I don’t think Reagan was the greatest President.. in, I believe, 1986, he allowed the pharmaceutical industry to be protected from any & all lawsuits related to vaccine damage(s) of any kind.. they were/are to be immune unless of course one was able to go to the Special Master after no doubt, much effort.. there seems to have been a couple secret billions paid out there.. nobody ever talks about it

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          • OlderAndWiser says:

            Loons, Every President has his own issues – no one is perfect. I judged my ranking by the great problems he solved: Economy (double digit inflation, double digit unemployment, double digit interest rates), Cold War, country mood (Pessimistic to Optimistic), Social Security, taxes, SC appointments (Scalia!!!!)…
            But I respect your comment. And your right to your own ranking.

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          • Esther says:

            Its another lie the media has put forward about how great a President Reagan was. The man was falling asleep at meetings and forgetting stuff even during his first term. They really think that we are brainless and our memories not functioning. The rumors were that tranny Nancy ruled and ran the WH. Compared to Trump Reagan has to take a seat.

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            • LoonsCall says:

              can you imagine President Trump dozing off even once.. he says one word wrong & they are all over him.. & am SO SICK of people like Maher saying that he says that the media is the enemy of the people.. he has REPEATEDLY said that the fake news media is

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        • Newcastle says:

          Just a note. GWB went to Yale.

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        • michael says:

          President Trump best President ever IMO better than Reagan who I admired. No one has taken more garbage thrown at him and still stands tall,

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      • geoffgo says:

        Nightline did some excellent reportage in “The Man Who Knew.” John O’neill was the most informed Special Agent in the FBI’s New York Anti-terrorism center – knew everything about Bin Laden and Islamic terrorism and warned US repeatedly. Captured Ramsi Yusef in Palistan – nephew of the “blind sheikh.” He was drummed out of the service because he was a spiffy dresser; became head of security for the World Trade Center, and died there on 911 performing heroically. Another story of FBI perfidy.
        https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/showsknew/ Really worthwhile.

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      • farrier105 says:

        In the 1980s, there were “Reactive Squads” in the field offices. Most of them were former police officers/detectives. Experienced officers were also found on Organized Crime squads.

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      • Mark says:

        SSI, yep. I agree with your assessment from about 7 years of personal experience. Agents will cover for agents and they follow orders from above no matter what — even if the orders break laws or regulations. They follow orders, even if it means innocents are harmed. As far as I’m concerned, it’s rampant throughout most gov’t agencies. One need only look at the 2013 gov’t shutdown under Obama to see how pervasively evil this is — when tourists were confronted by armed Park Rangers using “Gestapo” techniques. Park Rangers just “following orders”. Uh huh. Yeah, it’s pervasive throughout gov’t, top to bottom.

        https://www.newburyportnews.com/news/local_news/gestapo-tactics-meet-senior-citizens-at-yellowstone/article_bd36efd7-2593-50d8-b413-bfb888a40038.html

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    • Dee Paul Deje says:

      The Left ruins everything.

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  3. gsonFIT says:

    Remember that Peter Strzok played a principal role in the HRC investigation including Weiner’s laptop. He traveled to London to help kick off the Trump surveillance (crossfire hurricane). He worked on John Brennan’s Fusion Cell/Working Group and as part of that he wrote a lot of the above ICA. Claiming 17 groups participated when it was the 3 assigned to Brennan’s joint task force. Then wrapped it all up by getting assigned to Mueller’s flying circus and then kicked off the investigation.

    All in about 1.7 years

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  4. dpc32 says:

    Think about it: NOTHING has been solid in any area of spygate even minimally looked at. Mueller report has false declarations, manipulated texts, biased/false conclusions etc. Steele doc same thing. So, when the “flow from CIA to FBI” get’s looked at its going to be the same weak, false politically driven crap as everything else in this entire saga! They thought she would win!

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  5. dpc32 says:

    Think about it: NOTHING has been solid in any area of spygate even minimally looked at. Mueller report has false declarations, manipulated texts, biased/false conclusions etc. Steele doc same thing. So, when the “flow from CIA to FBI” get’s looked at its going to be the same weak, false politically driven crap as everything else in this entire saga! They thought she would win!

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  6. burnett044 says:

    go along to get along…scum covers for scum…..

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  7. lawton says:

    Brennan getting nervous and lashing out at POTUS again on twitter.

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  8. SSI01 says:

    Admiral Rogers should be specifically asked why he refused to sign onto this work of science fiction, and categorically state his reasons. They should be compared with the reasons provided by the reps of the other agencies who DID sign on to it. I’d love to see the difference in the Admiral’s thought processes, and theirs. Admiral Rogers should be publicly commended for refusing to get involved in this hot mess, and, furthermore, making the whole hot mess known to POTUS after he, the Admiral, was informed of it. He was no doubt savagely tongue-lashed for doing that, plus disgraced within the community. I know how he must have felt at that time.

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    • Admiral Rogers’ actions at each and every step have been honorable and exemplary, and I would be pleased to see him receive an appropriate military commendation from his Commander-in-Chief.

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    • The Demon Slick says:

      Anyone who knows computers knows that the ica was garbage. They took everyday stuff like phishing and spearphishing attacks which even most normal people understand and they dressed them up in obscure technical jargon. Phising became “attempting to penetrate the network through deceptive infiltration of their communications”. Throw in some code names, some irrelevant metadata, maybe in columns for extra complexity, toss in a few ipv6 adresses to get some more numbers in there. Like that. It was always just a made up excuse.

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      • TANGO268 says:

        The same could be said about Obama’s phony .pdf “birth certificate.” Anyone who knows anything about computer images, questioned documents, identity fraud, or body language (referring to Obama’s press conference) knows that Obama’s birth narrative is garbage. The same characters were involved: looking at you, Brennan.

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    • Mike says:

      Rogers signed on to the report, but did not have the same level of confidence as the others.

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  9. Greg says:

    Where are the whistleblowers from the, according to Hannity, 99% of uncorrupted FBI staff? Chris Farrell from Judicial Watch says a more realistic measure of the uncorrupted FBI is 75% which means there are still a lot of black hats causing problems.

    The public is going to be shocked when they realise that in order to cover up their illegal spying the Deep State invented a story about Russian interference in the election. The Russians have always intervened in US elections. What the Russians did in 2016 was of no consequence. The Trump-Russian collusion narrative was a hoax but even worse the entire Russian interference narrative is a hoax.

    The Deep State are so arrogant they were prepared to create havoc to cover their tracks. The ringleaders should be rounded up and shot for sedition.

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    • AccountabilityPlease says:

      Mark Meadows just said on Hannity that whistleblowers are now coming forward because they believe the AG is serious about holding people accountable. Think about it. Would you have stuck your neck out if you believed nothing would come of it other than having your head chopped off?

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  10. TwoLaine says:

    And the news just keeps getting better! 🙂

    DRIP! DRIP! DRIP!

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  11. AccountabilityPlease says:

    The best development was just reported by Congressman Mark Meadows on Hannity. Whistleblowers are coming out of the woodwork now that they know the Attorney General is serious about holding people accountable. Meadows also said, “indictments are coming.”

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  12. Sammy Hains says:

    And guess who Brennan tapped to write the ICA….

    Yep, Peter Strzok.

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    • Justin Green says:

      Very incestual. Almost as if there were a small group of people conspiring to do something untoward, lol.

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    • Rhoda R says:

      Interesting. Strzok seems to be in the middle of everything.

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      • ms doodlebug says:

        We’ve probably all known people where we work who are like Strzok. The ones who feel having their noses stuck up the bosses behinds makes them more important and more valuable than their co-workers who actually do the work.

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      • Mark McQueen says:

        Strozk was the operator, the soldier, the trigger man. I’d hook him up first and offer to trade him 20 years for a life sentence for his cooperation.

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    • Laure says:

      Strzok is like Forrest Gump…shows up everywhere…

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    • OlderAndWiser says:

      Ambitious scum. Not the ringleader. He may be the one without a seat when the music stops playing…but def not smart enough to be the ringleader.
      HRC ordered: Brennan plotted along HRC cronies at State, Comey and Clapper agreed to go along and go ambitious McCabe/Strzok/Page/etc to help. Unclear as to O’s involvement – at best, he knowingly let it happen.

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      • No. HRC did not order it, “it” was too wide and too deep and she was not in a position to order it. Nor, clearly, did Comey and Clapper simply “agree to go along”; they hated Trump, and did not have to be at all convinced to “join in” the plot against him. Nor were they all loyal to HRC; they were all loyal to Obama, and he was the only one who held all of their loyalties, again specifically directed against Trump (one might say they hated the man, as cult followers are wont to do to the enemies of their leader, while their leader Obama only hated the thought of him in power, as a President dedicated to overturning Obama’s cancerous evil).

        Obama publically ridiculed any talk of Russia as a serious threat, before the election, but when that very narrative was brought up as an excuse for the election outcome, he jumped in with both feet (throwing out 35 Russian agents), and was a whirlwind of activity in his final months in office, seeing to the setting up all of the separate parts of the complex play against the new President, especially his executive order (the ultimate in personal presidential power, used only in heartfelt “emergencies”) weakening the “unmasking” rules (which tells you he considered a President Trump an emergency — an emotion he shared with Comey, the bitchy little girl with whom we have all become familiar). When the FISA “queries” runaround was stopped, Mary Jacoby immediately visited the White House (for 14 straight hours), not HRC or the DNC — and the Steele dossier plan was born.

        Only Obama/Soetoro could order it all, and make it all work together. When will everyone on our side finally understand this fundamental fact; for that is what is needed to make America realize it, and save itself from Obama’s widely spread cancer.

        Make no mistake. Making Obama’s admirers see the truth about their false hero is the one thing needed to save America from the Insane Left that the Democrats have become.

        I know, everybody thinks they know better, and are quick to take umbrage with anyone who doesn’t toe their own personal party line, their own pet dogma (like, in this case, HRC ordered it all. It is to laugh, and cry.) We need to get all the muskets pointed in the same direction.

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        • Rockindubya says:

          i completely agree with this all being above HRC’s capabilities, but ‘Obama’s admirers” will never grasp the truth. Half are willfully ignorant and the rest are members of some political Satanic cult.

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        • Marco says:

          Thank you, Harry, for your excellent analysis.

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        • Jederman says:

          Abuse of the LE/IC assets is, I believe, only the tip of the iceberg. If obama would authorize abuse of these agencies why would he not abuse EVERY other asset within the Executive Branch? We already know about the IRS.

          Think of all the little know depts, offices, agencies and bureaus that gather, collate and disseminate information and funding and all the eager, fanatic, America hating turds in the obama admin. It’s my belief that he weaponized everything under his prevue to damage, suppress, go after his political opposition. It’s the chicago way writ large.

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        • OlderAndWiser says:

          Harry, I do NOT know better – it was my opinion. I totally get your strongly stated opinion.
          Sometimes when we disagree in our opinions, it is important to know that the enemy is without, not within.

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        • warrprin1 says:

          Contrary to Creepy-Crawly Joe’s portrayal of his own position as 44’s right hand man, O’s right hand man was John Brennan. Break Brennan, and the door swings open to the “role” of the Constitution hating #44 himself. O was not able to convince The People that the Constitution, with all its incorporated Amendments, needed to be tossed. We know that, consequently, he tossed it out covertly, with lots of help from Brennan and the Gang-at-Large.

          “Out” every single detail of Brennan’s career history, and particularly his discovery of Islam as “The Way” while he was stationed as a “diplomat” overseas. Then prosecute, convict, and shoot the bastard – no blindfold. Maybe we’ll finally see some justice for all the victims of 9-11-01 – including justice for the surviving rescuers and clean-up people who have suffered so greatly – physically, mentally, and spiritually.

          Never Forget. Get Every Single Perp of 9-11: foreign and domestic. Some of these same people are those who remained on the inside of our government for years following the attack(s) against our Nation. And among them we see many of those who launched an attack against Our President Trump, 15 years later.

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        • OldParatrooper says:

          Why would Clapper hate Trump in early 2016? I can understand why Clapper, Comey/McCabe and Brennan all hated Flynn then, he had pixxed all over them on ISIS and the Robyn Gritz sexual discrimination claim against the FBI. But, Trump was a long shot, and essentially a New York personality.

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      • Mac says:

        HRC did not order the insurance policy.But, she was the catalyst which made it all necessary.

        The Clintons had been making a very good living for a long time as influence peddlers. In DC, and most other part of the world, that entails the exchange of money. Guess who did that? The Clintons, who were broke when they left the White House were actually bankrolling the DNC in 2015/16. The Establishment, especially the Dems, could not let HRC be indicted for Servergate. This meant that she would have to be protected, on the one hand, and Trump’s election prevented on the other.

        So. one operation was the Comey, Lynch and, probably, Obama effort to stop any indictments. Another operation was surveillance of the Trump Campaign by the non-government contractors and, possibly, by active federal agents. The second operation, the insurance policy, utilized British IC agencies to circumvent the 702 freeze that Rogers put in place at the NSA in March, 2016. It also used CIA and FBI counterintelligence assets to set up the Trump/Russia Collusion narrative to justify the upcoming Crossfire Hurricane CoI operation. Stzrok was to be the secure communications conduit for the insurance policy, to avoid an electric footprint. That was why he was tied into every one of the major players here. Unfortunately, Stzrok and Page turned out to be the Boris and Natasha of this op. Stzrok and Page did exactly what they were supposed to avoid, create an electronic message trail. Can you imagine the look in Brennan, Clapper and Comey’s faces when the S/P text messages became public? And, it was too late for Stzrok to meet with an accident.

        As to Obama being the mastermind, my personal inclination is that he was not. He has always struck me as being the faceman for the Obama Presidency. He was totally a tool of the Establishment and its masters. That being said, I can not see any operation with the breadth and depth of the operations to protect HRC and stop Trump proceeding without Obama’s intimate knowledge of them. And, in fact, Stzrok seems to say as much in his texts to Page.

        As others have noted, these operations were incredibly widespread both within the US government, other national governments and the private/political sector.

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      • Peppurr says:

        Absolutely, he let it happen, imo. No doubt he’s kibitzing with Holder who has also hit the mute button. I’d love to be a fly on the their wall. So much for O’s ‘legacy’. 🙂

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  13. NYT’s comments are a bit strange given that Barr started his government career at CIA … he knows the place.

    And, yes: CIA should be comfortable with judicial scrutiny of how its work products are used in judicial proceedings. Justice can indeed question the provenance of these things without compromising CIA or creating internecine turf-wars.

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    • Isn’t the CIA purposely compartmentalized enough that one group of officers is unaware of what the others are doing? That way, one group of bad apples don’t spoil the whole barrel. Just thinking.

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  14. Truthfilter says:

    The fact that HRC Email, Crossfire Hurricane, and the Mueller Investigations were all three conducted by the exact same group of people might explain why there have been no whistleblowers. The FBI has tens of thousands of agents. Why didn’t they appoint different people to run these investigations? Why was Peter Strokz a central figure in all 3? So they could control or achieve the desired outcomes. It was ALL political. Every bit of it.

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  15. Right to reply says:

    At times like this I reach for ‘Screwtape’

    “What I want to fix your attention on is the vast, overall movement towards the discrediting, and finally the elimination, of every kind of human excellence – moral, cultural, social, or intellectual. And is it not pretty to notice how “democracy” (in the incantatory sense) is now doing for us the work that was once done by the most ancient Dictatorships, and by the same methods? You remember how one of the Greek Dictators (they called them “tyrants” then) sent an envoy to another Dictator to ask his advice about the principles of government. The second Dictator led the envoy into a field of grain, and there he snicked off with his cane the top of every stalk that rose an inch or so above the general level. The moral was plain. Allow no preeminence among your subjects. Let no man live who is wiser or better or more famous or even handsomer than the mass. Cut them all down to a level: all slaves, all ciphers, all nobodies. All equals. Thus Tyrants could practise, in a sense, “democracy.” But now “democracy” can do the same work without any tyranny other than her own. No one need now go through the field with a cane. The little stalks will now of themselves bite the tops off the big ones. The big ones are beginning to bite off their own in their desire to Be Like Stalks.” https://screwtapeblogs.wordpress.com/2009/06/30/screwtape-proposes-a-toast/

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  16. gsonFIT says:

    This is pretty interesting. Scott Ritter has gotten into trouble, but this article does not tilt right per se.

    https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/did-17-intelligence-agencies-really-come-to-consensus-on-russia/

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    • OldParatrooper says:

      Ritter is right that the NIA ICA didn’t follow the standard process, nor did either the Mid Year Exam nor Crossfire Hurricane investigation.

      The people at the top (Brennan, Clapper, Comey, McCabe, etc) eschewed the normal processes to execute “Headquarters Specials”.

      That the NSA Director, who was also the Commander of US Cyber Command, didn’t agree with the confidence level speaks volumes. That he notified President Elect Trump of the FBI abuses of the 702 database right after the election is a credit to his courage and integrity.

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  17. CC says:

    I worked with some of the top leaders of the build out of the internet in the late 80s onward – the JAR/ICA is a complete and total farce. Anyone with any understanding of the internet, security, or “hacking” knows the BS in those reports equates to some high school kid level phishing. If that work product came from the “intelligence” agencies’ best and brightest we are in deep trouble as a nation. Rogers and NSA would not verify such a poorly researched and constructed intelligent report – read more like a MSM hit piece.

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  18. mikeyboo says:

    It seems to me that Mike Rogers knows where many of these putrefying bodies are buried and he is willing to help guide the bloodhounds to the quarry.

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  19. Independent investigators like Sundance knew and reported that the ICA was a fraud from the very beginning, as it was quickly known to be just the work of Brennan, Clapper and Comey, just three individuals, and not the “17 intelligence agencies agree” that it claimed to be.

    This has been utterly transparent fraud, in pursuit of deceiving the public and committing the treason of overthrowing the 2016 election. We are waiting to see SOMETHING from Barr, Durham et al. that will show they understand that and are prepared to prosecute fully, not tentatively “investigate”, over and over again. Get on the stick, and earn some real respect, if you really want to save these institutions, not at the cost of America itself.

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    • Mark McQueen says:

      Barr and Durham can’t afford to try their case on the internet.

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      • Exactly so … and, when the malefactors are “at the VERY top” of one-or-more government institutions, they are capable of wielding a lot of weight. They can, indeed, make “their views” become “their Department’s.” Even, “17 Departments.”

        Remember – this corruption has been going on for years, very possibly for decades. It is very deeply entrenched and self-supporting. It has existed, probably, through many Presidential terms run by Presidents who never wished to upset the apple-cart. “Until … this one.”

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  20. namberak says:

    “The ICA was the brain-trust of John Brennan, James Clapper and James Comey.” If those three are your brain-trust, as we say here in flyover country, you’re hosed. Oh, and don’t forget to update your dictionary: clapper: n. an intentional falsehood; v. to intentionally deceive; synonyms: comey, brennan, mccabe, rosenstein

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  21. askandgettruth says:

    C.I.A.===Cronie- Incompetent- Agency. brennen is a self admitted commie. how did he get to head the cia??? it must be taken apart and the bones sunk in the deepest parts of the ocean. they must feel the full power of the justice in which this country was founded.

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  22. Screaming Eagle says:

    For years FBI / CIA / DOJ have been bringing in Ivy League Ideologue’s instead of seasoned law enforcement officials. These departments are rife with leftists. Not just at the top, but throughout. This explains the likes of Snowden, Handler, who are so devoted to the left, they took action themselves. How many more like this? Clean house.

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  23. Nancy Murphy says:

    Did anyone watch the second hour of Don Lemon last night? James Baker ‘ordered’ Wray and Barr to confront President Trump and ‘Straighten him out’ regarding his ‘listening’ to foreign opposition research statement. It was amazing to watch Baker suggesting the President needs to be ‘threatened’ by the IC or ‘else’. Lemon seemed a bit freaked out by Baker’s screed and asked him what he meant by ‘or else’. I was freaked out as well, it sounded like Baker was advocating for the FBI to remove the President from office. Baker sensed Lemon’s fear and assured him that he meant only that Wray and Barr should resign if the President refuses to take back his statement. Our Intelligence Community is out of hand. The IC, not the President needs to be straightened out.

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  24. As Sundance has called it many times, F***ING BRENNAN! This is where this all started! At, no doubt, with the instruction and encouragement of the Obama White House. Ben Rhoades, Valerie Jarrett…. I’m sure former President Obama is protected from this… but he knew.

    These people weaponized the powerful agencies of government for the entire time they possessed the power. No doubt in my mind!

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  25. farrier105 says:

    “The ICA took the ridiculous construct of the JAR and then overlaid a political narrative that Russia was trying to help Donald Trump.”

    https://twt-media.washtimes.com/media/misc/2018/12/13/Steele_August_filing.pdf

    Go to Question Number 4 and Steele’s response. It’s funny that the JAR and ICA directly mirror Hillary and Perkins Coie’s intent in hiring Fusion GPS and Fusion’s subcontractor, Christopher Steele.

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    • rcogburn says:

      YES. Thanks for the link. This is key. See also Question 8, how Steele’s work involved “safeguarding national security of the US and the UK.”

      If Steele’s telling the truth (I think he is & he’s gone underground to avoid telling more of it), then Hilary/DNC/Perkins-Coie did not hire Fusion / Steele to dig up political smear dirt on Trump. That was a cover story when the dossier was exposed.

      Steele says Perkins-Coie hired Fusion / Steele for serious intelligence research to support PC’s own research into possible legal action against a potential national security threat to both the US and UK.

      Steele’s / Fusion’s work wasn’t oppo slime for Paul Begala to fling on CNN, it was investigative research done for Perkins-Coie on a gravely important matter.

      With this starting point, it’s a much smaller jump for Steele / Fusion to become so alarmed by their “research,” they just had to inform US (and UK?) officials, who had no choice but to go “by the book” and investigate it to the fullest extent, which is why and how they sold it to FISA.

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