Mark Meadows, Jim Jordan and Matt Gaetz Discuss Meeting With President Trump over Border Security…

Against the backdrop of a partial government shutdown (not really) Representative Mark Meadows (NC), Jim Jordan (OH) and Matt Gaetz (FL) discuss the ongoing budget appropriations standoff over border security and their meeting with President Trump.

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108 Responses to Mark Meadows, Jim Jordan and Matt Gaetz Discuss Meeting With President Trump over Border Security…

  1. sundance says:

    Liked by 19 people

    • Hoosier_Friend? says:

      Cocaine Mitch needs a swift boot in his ass and this goat rodeo needs to come to an end. We, The People, grow weary of the deceptions games.

      Liked by 24 people

    • MTeresa says:


      Liked by 10 people

    • Rachel Guess says:

      Imho this is President Trump forcing democrats to show where their interest actually is, in allowing an open border and protecting illegal aliens to the detriment of US citizens and LEGAL immigrants. PDJT will allow the shutdown to continue for a while, then he will eventually order the Army Corp of Engineers and the Seabees to complete the wall out of the DoD budget, and any piece of legislation that the liberals want to pass for the next two years will come with a price tag, a major piece of which will be mandating E-verify nationwide for ALL employers, meaning that illegal aliens will for the most part self deport and apply to return LEGALLY if they want more than under the table wages at less than minimum wage rates and no benefits for the rest of their lives.

      The daca court case is also still proceeding through the system and I have no doubt that daca will be overturned, at which point liberals hair will catch fire to ‘save the dreamers, and they will push desperately for POTUS to agree to legislation at that point, and his response will be “I am going to make you an offer you can’t refuse…” to get whatever concessions he wants at that time.


      Liked by 15 people

      • spinoneone says:

        You are very likely correct. However, killing the filibuster for this tactical event would be a mistake. Eventually the Dems will control the House, Senate, and White House, and that is an historical fact. At that point, with no filibuster, we are likely to go to one man, one vote, ONE time, and then sink into a dictatorship. It’s a Republic only so long as we can keep it. We can’t keep it without the Senate to slow down things.

        Liked by 1 person

        • thedoc00 says:

          Don’t be so naïve. The filibuster will die as soon as Democrat gavels the Senate into session. Schumer used as a both a tool to get Obamacare done as well as test balloon. Green check marks on both accounts, and it is obvious the Democrat President of the Senate will have enter with zero filibuster in force.

          Liked by 3 people

        • Attorney at Law says:

          In all seriousness, is nothing in your life worth fighting for? I sure as hell will fight along side the POTUS who has put his life on the line for the people and their country. I’m not bowing down to the mafia government.


          Liked by 4 people

        • Jim S. says:

          I look at things this way. The one thing that has maintained the status quo is the 60 vote rule. It allows dem goals to grow and no opportunity for recourse. The government’s size and budget and authoritarianism just grow and grow and grow. If an American government does get in power (Reagan/Trump), it’s blocked by the 60 vote rule.

          Removing the 60 vote rule will not allow dems cover anymore. They will be judged by what they actually do. Let them try to nationalize … or takeover healthcare or …. The people will then see them for who they really are.

          I don’t believe in a uniparty. I believe things are globalist (leftist or corporatist) and American. A straight up vote will show the people who is who.

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      • Jake says:

        Don’t forget the Prime Beef and Red Horse troops from the Air Force. We also have thousands of engineers in the Guard and Reserves. The Guard was building fencing on the border decades ago. We quit doing it when OIF/OEF kicked off and took all the troops away.

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      • Hereward the Woke says:

        And maybe a new SCOTUS judge too in the months to come. I hope Bader Ginsberg returns to health but also takes her long overdue retirement.

        Liked by 1 person

      • Zippy says:

        “a major piece of which will be mandating E-verify nationwide for ALL employers”

        Yeah, dream on…



        President Trump tweeted Sunday that he “would be willing to shut down government” at the end of September if Congress doesn’t get serious about border security.

        In the tweet—and in a follow-up tweet Monday—the president renewed his call for faster funding of a border wall but curiously made no mention of another border security measure that arguably would be as effective as the wall at curbing illegal immigration.

        That would be mandating the use by all employers of E-Verify, the federal database to confirm that their workers are in the country legally.

        Trump called for the E-Verify mandate in a campaign stump speech two years ago in August 2016, but it since seems to have fallen down the memory hole.

        If jobs are the magnet that attracts illegal immigrants to and across the southern border, it follows that to “demagnetize” illegal immigration will require eliminating, or at least dramatically reducing, the lure of employment here.

        But in the reporting on the debate in Congress in late June on immigration-reform legislation, there was virtually no mention of E-Verify, which likely would do at least as much to curtail illegal border-crossing as Trump’s proposed “big, beautiful wall.”

        (That’s not to suggest that the two are mutually exclusive. To the contrary, together they would be doubly effective.)

        The tougher of the two immigration bills that Congress debated and voted on last month did include the requirement that all employers utilize the federal E-Verify database.

        It went down to defeat 193-to-231 on June 21, however, with 41 centrist Republicans joining all 190 Democrats who voted in opposition.

        That made it clear that neither open-borders liberals who crave more than anything else a “path to citizenship” for undocumented future Democratic voters nor the Main Street Partnership-style moderate Republicans who carry water for the Chamber of Cheap Labor are serious about addressing the problem of illegal immigration.


        • Rachel Guess says:

          I get that and you are correct about the uniparty votes, but Donald Trump will find a way to build the wall, if he can’t get the money from Congress he will have DoD build it using the Army Corp of Engineers and the Seabees. When the liberals in the House want a bill to pass in the next two years, and they will, my point is it gives POTUS a big bargaining chip, ie: ‘if you want this I will be happy to sign it as long as you include this item that we want.’


  2. Zorro says:

    I’m thinking if Chuck and Nancy want open borders let’s have them codify it. Force them to bring legislation to repeal all immigration laws.

    Liked by 7 people

  3. Heika says:

    There they are – three good men.

    Liked by 20 people

  4. Nom de Blog says:

    And the Senate stays in session so that recess appointments are impossible.

    Cocaine Mitch is doing everything he can to protect the Uni-Party.

    Liked by 22 people

    • Grandma Covfefe says:

      Yep…nothing change.

      Liked by 2 people

    • Sgt Stryker says:

      Mitch is compromised (just like Roberts) by the deep state IC.
      Anyone that’s been in Congress or the Senate for a few years is compromised.
      There are Trillions at stake.

      Liked by 21 people

      • Michael Todaro says:

        Yes Sgt Stryker. I still say the deadly Clinton Crime Syndicate threatens, bribes, & blackmails these creeps. They fear death of family members, financial ruin, sex scandal…Trump is Lamont Cranston. “Only the shadow knows” !
        MAGA/KAG !

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        • kiskiminetas says:

          The Clinton Crime Syndicate, while being started by them, has been on steroids since they were brought into the globalist crime organization. Clinton’s, Mitch and others, who have taken globalist money, are dead people walking/talking. They will continue on this path until the day they are taken down and by God’s grace the globalists will be as well. Stay strong, stay alert and trust VSGDJT, his plan and those who are in on our fight.

          Liked by 4 people

      • Walt says:

        Yep. Roberts is owned by the deep state.

        We won’t have a conservative majority until we get at least one more Trump appointment.

        Liked by 1 person

  5. Deplorable_Infidel says:

    “the ongoing budget appropriations standoff over border security and their meeting with President Trump.”

    Praise the LORD for these three statesmen who are standing firm with our President and the MAGA agenda.

    1Timothy 2:1  I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men; 
    1Ti 2:2  For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty. 

    1Ti 2:3  For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; 
    1Ti 2:4  Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. 
    1Ti 2:5  For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

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    • Keln says:

      Ezekiel 13:

      9 My hand will be against the prophets who see false visions and utter lying divinations. They will not belong to the council of my people or be listed in the records of Israel, nor will they enter the land of Israel. Then you will know that I am the Sovereign LORD.

      Matthew 16:

      11 How is it you don’t understand that I was not talking to you about bread? But be on your guard against the yeast of the Pharisees and Sadducees.”
      12 Then they understood that he was not telling them to guard against the yeast used in bread, but against the teaching of the Pharisees and Sadducees.

      Matthew 24:

      24 For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.

      Jeremiah 23:

      16 This is what the LORD Almighty says: “Do not listen to what the prophets are prophesying to you; they fill you with false hopes. They speak visions from their own minds, not from the mouth of the LORD.

      2 Timothy 4:

      3 For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.
      4 They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.

      Beware the clingers on, the coattail riders, and those who say what you want to hear.

      Also, using Bible verses to make a point is like traipsing into a minefield of your own making.

      Evil clothes itself in the manner of those it wishes to devour.

      Liked by 14 people

      • Reality says:

        Oh dear.

        Liked by 1 person

      • bakocarl says:

        So . . . how are we to identify these false prophets? Well, for one thing, EVERYTHING they say must come true since it is God that speaks through His true prophets. EVERYTHING.. . . without exception.

        “But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded him to say, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, must be put to death. You may say to yourselves, How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the Lord? If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the Lord does not take place or come true, that is a message the Lord has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him.”

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  6. SteveC says:

    Thank goodness someone finally (sort of) called the ‘cheap’ labor what it really is, ‘tax-payer subsidized’ labor. I don’t think the GOPe could sell it if people actually called it that.

    Liked by 14 people

  7. Mike says:

    This is Sparta

    Liked by 1 person

  8. The concerted and constant opposition from the leftist Dems has forged tough alliances in Congress, both among Republicans and with President Trump. It sure shows in these interviews. The left should wake up and realize that their unending attacks are back firing.

    And Gaetz may be young, but he is tough and worth to stand with Meadows and Jordan. His comment about the sneaky tactic to try to constrain any funding to “fixing fences” was not surprising, but it is good that this group has caught that tactic so they can prevent a typical DC “workaround” of spending tax dollars that are designated for one remedy and are spent uselessly.

    Liked by 11 people

    • bakocarl says:

      In several postings in TCTH, posters have said that in order to NOT have a recess, we only need ONE person (in the house or senate?) to vote against staying open. I’ve never understood this.

      Are we really saying Gaetz, Meadows and Jordan all go along with the recess charade? Please help my lack of understanding.

      Liked by 1 person

      • mimbler says:

        I think they are talking about the senate, where if a single republican voted against adjourning, the democrats would not have even a simple majority.


    • bakocarl says:

      I refer to “Prior to the start of the summer recess, Congress passes a concurrent resolution stipulating that the House and Senate are conditionally adjourned until a specific date, usually the week after Labor Day.”

      I see no requirement for a unanimous vote.


  9. emet says:

    One of the positive things to note is that Border Patrol stayed relitively intact thru administrations that were not particularly interested in secure borders. In fact, there were plenty of politicians who were intent on hobbling the Agents as much as possible. Treepers may remember Agents Ramos and Campeon, who were arrested ( SWAT raid) and imprisoned for shooting a fleeing drug smuggler in the butt. Nobody was concerned about the almost routine shootings at Border Patrol, by cartel gunman or Mexican military (yes, I repeat myself). So, they stood in the gap, along with ICE, HSI, and many great officers from State and Locals, despite bashing in the MSM, etc. I guess if Obsma couldn’t make them throw in the towel, then nobody can.

    Liked by 10 people

  10. Keln says:

    “The way the week was going, I was a little worried but the President came back…”

    By design. And some of you, not gonna mention names, were also “worried”. How many times do we have to do this Chinese fire drill? Anything the paid opposition can try to drive a wedge into Trump’s base, they will try. This time it was not standing up for the wall. And people still fall for that crap.

    Trust Trump dammit.

    Liked by 28 people

  11. Reality says:

    Good guys, 3 bad ties.

    Liked by 3 people

  12. Comrade Mope says:

    President Trump is staying in DC for a reason, IMHO.
    As soon as the shut-down begins President Trump should invoke Article II Section 3:

    He shall from time to time give to the Congress information of the state of the union, and recommend to their consideration such measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in case of disagreement between them, with respect to the time of adjournment, he may adjourn them to such time as he shall think proper; he shall receive ambassadors and other public ministers; he shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed, and shall commission all the officers of the United States.

    Convene both houses until such time a border wall is funded.

    Liked by 16 people

  13. Monticello says:

    Pick your battles. Our great President has chosen this place and time to make a stand. He was promised by the dissembling McConnell that the wall funding could wait until …….after.

    It is now after…

    I stand with President Trump.

    If we don’t get the funding then we all have to have the President’s back and go up to DC and let them know we’re not gonna accept their machinations any longer.

    Are you ready?

    Liked by 18 people

  14. spoogels says:

    Resurgent Al-Qaeda plan new series of spectacular attacks against airliners and airports including drone strikes and suicide passengers, says security minister

    Also remember there is a very strong contingent of Hezbollah in South and Central America

    Liked by 4 people

    • Shelley Keith Childs says:

      Heavenly Father, please thwart the evil plans of men, and expose the evil deeds of men so that they will not escape justice, and rescue from destruction the innocent, the helpless, the unwary, and the unsaved. Bless and protect all who travel, conduct business or attend church today, that they may do so free of threats, danger, and destruction.

      Protect us from a slow agonizing destruction we pray.

      In Jesus’ name, Amen.

      Liked by 4 people

    • Attorney at Law says:

      The Daily Mail is tabloid fodder and should be treated as such.


    • Hebo Sabe says:

      ISIS are just going back to whoever pays them the most.


  15. wodiej says:

    Thank you, Sundance for the pictures of Trump’s army and bringing us this interview. Those are awesome! Those three are in the front with President Trump and his army. God bless you all!

    Liked by 8 people

    • Terri says:

      Unfortunately they will all now have to be mindful of their backs. The swamp already tried to get to Jim Jordan last year with the sex scandal involving the sports doctor for the wrestling team he coached. And then his nephew was killed in a car accident…

      Liked by 3 people

  16. Moultrie Flag says:

    I found this yesterday. History of the “wall” and the southern border.

    Trump should do a Xmas eve presser from his desk, show clips of Chuck, Nancy, and Clinton all clamoring for the “wence” , SHOW THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THE MONEY THEY HAVE ALL WASTED, etc.

    Truth no one is talking about, article is from 2017

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    • Moultrie Flag says:

      1845 to 1900 – Texas is annexed. Mexicans begin migrating south into what suddenly became “Mexico.”

      1917 – U.S. farmers and manufacturers need labor immigration of Mexicans into the U.S. is encouraged. A cotton company executive writes President Woodrow Wilson, “Personally, I believe that the Mexican laborers are the solution to our common labor problem in this country. Many of their people are here, this was once part of their country, and they can and they will do the work.”

      1924 – Mexico is exempted from the Immigration Act that restricts newcomers from other countries.

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      1929 – After the Great Depression, thousands of Mexicans are unofficially “repatriated” by city, state and federal governments of the U.S. and sent back to Mexico.

      1965 – In a major civil rights reform, U.S. President Johnson changes the preference of immigration law from country of origin – therefore European ethnicity – to family ties inside the United States, acknowledging and aiding large numbers of Mexicans with family members who are already residents and acknowledging the close relationship of the two countries.

      1969 – President Nixon launches Operation Intercept and mandates surprise individual inspections of any and all border crossings, plane, car, or foot. Thousands of agents are dispatched to the Mexican border, virtually shutting down illegal immigration by car for the first time. Antonio Carillo Flores, the Foreign Affairs secretary of the Mexican government, complains bitterly.

      1980′s – A brief lull in enforcement. Pedestrians and cars are stopped intermittently. Worldstir editor smuggles a puppy across the border under a blanket in her car. Millions of Americans head south to vacation at Mexican beaches with only a driver’s licence.

      1993 – President Bill Clinton mandates construction on a 13-mile “Border Wall” along a line in the sand between San Diego and Tijuana. It is projected to cost $39 million and reduce border apprehensions from 100,000 per day to 5,000 per day for those 13 miles. Emigrants find other paths.

      1994 – The North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) passes. Large agricultural areas are devastated by low-cost competition with U.S. industrial agriculture. A new surge of immigration heads northward into the United States, swamping the border patrols.

      1996 – President Clinton signs the Illegal Immigration Reform and Responsibility Act, increasing fines for illegal entry and approving funding for more patrols and fence construction. Emigrants shift away from the traditional crossings into privately held land, causing landowners to fence their property.

      2000 – Tohono O’odham, which means “desert people,” Indians whose lands are split in half between the United States and Mexico, are baffled by the idea that they now need documents to move about their traditional lands. A 34-year old Tohono, Faustino Romero Zepeda, born in Mexico, is arrested and “deported” for doing business on tribal land in the U.S. He is barred from entering the country for five years.

      2001 – Planes crash into the Twin Towers on 9/11. Border security becomes a national security issue. President George W. Bush approves increasing border patrols from 10,000 to 20,000 in 2008. Everyone now shows international travel documents when crossing by car or plane.

      2004 – The U.S. Border Patrol announces that 325 people died crossing the border from Mexicio in one year. No More Deaths is founded by religious leaders, including Catholic bishop Gerald Kicanas, Presbyterian minister John Fife, and leaders of the local Jewish community in Arizona, to aid migrants.

      2005 – More than one million people are arrested crossing into the United States from Mexico. More than than 500 die crossing.

      2006 – President Bush signs the Secure Fences act, promising 700 miles of fencing on the border, plus a virtual wall across the entire 2,000-mile border.

      2007 – The Department of Homeland Security argues that it is impossible to construct the same type of fencing – i.e. a wall – across the border’s diverse terrain, and asks for and gets an amendment allowing a variety of barriers including “fencing, physical barriers, roads, lighting, cameras,” with another $12 billion in funding.

      2008 – The U. S. announces that a section of the barrier had been mistakenly built from 1 to 6 feet (2 meters) inside Mexican territory and must be moved. Congress approves the Department of Homeland Security’s right to circumvent more than 30 environmental laws in a push to get fencing constructed by year’s end.

      2009 – The Great Recession kicks off the first outflow of Mexicans from the United States since the annexation of Texas, creating a net loss of illegals living in the U.S. The U.S. peak of 12 million illegal residents begins to decline at the rate of about 300,000 per year.

      2010 – The New York Times writes that over the previous four years, 51 unauthorized tunnels running under the border walls had been found in Nogales, Arizona, and Nogales, Sonora. They are mainly for drug trafficking, not emigration.

      2011 – The Department of Homeland Security completes 649 miles of barriers, including 350 miles of pedestrian fencing, at an estimated $6.5 million per mile, and 299 miles of vehicle barriers that cost approximately $1.7 million per mile. But $1 billion spent on a pilot program for “virtual surveillance” in Arizona yields only 53 miles of coverage. With the backing of the DHS, the Obama administration cuts funding for the rest of the hyper-expensive “virtual wall.”

      2012 – The Washington Office on Latin America, a human rights organization, warns that the number of border crossing fatalities have doubled since the year before. The United States Border Patrol finds the remains of 463 people.

      2013 – U.S. Rep. Henry Cuellar (D-Texas) tells Forbes that there are plenty of ways to enter the U.S. illegally that don’t involve walking across the border, says “a fence is a 14th-century solution to a 21st-century problem.”

      2014 – Central and South America send massive numbers of refugees into Mexico heading north for the U.S. The number of non-Mexicans crossing the border illegally exceeds the number of Mexicans for the first time. A surge of unaccompanied children cross the U.S. border.

      2015 – Patrols report that 3,000 human remains have been found on the Arizona border since the wall’s construction began. Human rights groups double that number, including the unfound and those on the Mexican side. “No More Deaths” leaves thousands of jugs of water in the desert for potential emigrants. Mexicans nail coffins with the Spanish word for “death” painted on them along the border wall.

      2016 – Pew Research reports that more people from the U.S. are going to Mexico than the other way around. Scott Walker, Wisconsin Governor, says that there are “legitimate concerns” about security along the country’s 5,525-mile northern border, and that he would support building a wall between the U.S. and Canada.

      2017 – President Donald Trump renews his vow to build “a great, great wall” across the rest of the 2,000-mile border. Executive orders call for an increase of 5,000 border patrol agents and 10,000 Immigration and Customs Enforcement, or ICE, officers above the 21,000 already employed. In the United States, mothers and father are separated from children and deported.

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  17. Bob at Wendys says:

    If they really wanted to do something to stem the tide; the would have passed mandatory e-verify.

    Liked by 4 people

  18. Darrell W says:

    Why doesn’t Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell use the nuclear option and fund The Wall with 51 votes? What am I missing?


    • FredeDK says:

      Probably 4 or 5 votes in the republican side


    • bakocarl says:

      Because McConnell is a full-fledged, card-carrying member of the Dimm/GOPe cabal..He will only do what forwards his agenda or what PTrump can force him to do to support MAGA.

      McConnell is not a Deplorable . . . he is the enemy.

      Liked by 6 people

    • My perspective for what is is worth, is that Mitch, does not want to put the dem wing of the uni-party in a bad spot. A vote at the 60 member threshold gives all the RINO members a pass (knew it would not pass so a yes vote was safe. Kind or rough on the dems they get to face voters. Remembers PDJT’s statements in the nancie and shucky meeting. Part may have been to bait nancie and part may have been to set shucky up for things to come). A vote at the 51 member threshold toasts Flake and Corker for any future consideration, although they currently have nothing to loose. Mitch is now one twisted turtle because PDJT is to the point of not putting up with this foolishness. Mitch can either hack off his donors and very publicly out some of his uni-party members, or face the retribution of PDJT for the next two years. Or another way of looking at it is, campaign 2020 has started, who actually supports homeland security and who supports cheep imported labor and cheep imported votes, along with a side of useless spending to provide cover.

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  19. bakocarl says:

    One of the many differences between PTrump and GOPe/Dimms:

    PTrump: Promises made, promises kept. When I promise something, I will do my very best to make it happen.

    GOPe/Dimms: Promises are meaningless. When we promise something, we will only do what forwards our agenda.

    GOPe/Dimms are flat-out, in-your-face liars.

    Liked by 1 person

    • Hebo Sabe says:

      Why not? They always get reelected after lying anyway.

      NO repercussions to seeding leftists into our party, no indeedy. We allow them in like the left allow the illegals in at the border.

      Yeah, it’s truth that’s hard to swallow and it’s not what they’re doing that’s hard to swallow …


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  20. trapper says:

    Here’s a good breakdown of which departments are actually affected and which have already been fully funded for 2019 so will be Unaffected. Not much to freak out about.


  21. Mr BiG Time says:

    So good to hear the 3 guys support the USA !

    Clearly, they have yet to take the $$ bribes that have been offered. They better sleep w their eyes open.

    Seal it with steel slats !! SSS.


  22. Sentient says:

    Definition of “essential services” and “essential employees” could depend, in some cases, on the decisions of executive department heads. Pompeo could decide whether the issuance/renewal of passports is essential, for example. So we’ll see how coordinated the administration is in dialing up the pain/pressure.


  23. railer says:

    Gaetz shows promise. We should keep our eyes on him.

    Liked by 2 people

  24. Rose says:

    Both sides agree to spend billions in Afghanistan, I guess that corrupt medieval nation’s security is a priority American not a priority.


  25. Charlie says:

    Light bulb went off after re-reading TCH post. All abortion loving Catholics in Congress will NEVER be condemned by Catholic Church. They will continue to sit in church pews with absolution. It never made sense until I read it again…. Abortion, Catholic Congress members, absolution = taxpayer money.

    Liked by 1 person

  26. Dan says:

    I bet this wasn’t about border security but a good cover for a spygate meeting.


    • Hebo Sabe says:

      Small wonder the CIA attacked us with the label ‘conspiracy theorists.’ They always can count on you guys in order to conflate their true acts into conspiracies.


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