This is Madness – The Media are Just as Complicit In The DOJ Corruption and FISA Abuse…

We shared a discussion thread a few weeks ago about how the media are enmeshed within the entire story of the DOJ and FBI corruption.  The media engagements with the parties swirling around the Clinton-Steele Dossier and DOJ corruption are so pervasive they cannot currently report on the story without exposing their own duplicity.  Michael Isikoff found that reality yesterday when he discovered his reporting was being used by the FBI.

FBI investigator Peter Strzok and FBI attorney Lisa Page have been shown in their text messages to be leaking stories from the Clinton Investigation, the Trump investigation and the Mueller investigation to journalists at Politico, The Wall Street Journal and Washington Post. –SEE HERE

(Source Link – pdf Page #5) 

Additionally, Christopher Steele has stated in U.K. court records the person in charge of the Clinton Campaign’s opposition research firm, Glenn Simpson from Fusion GPS,  arranged and coordinated for Mr. Steele to talk to several journalists (CNN, The New York Times, The Washington Post, Yahoo News and Mother Jones) while Mr. Steele was also the primary source of information for the FBI investigators (including Strzok and Page):

(Source – page #8)

Make sure you read that full response from Christopher Steele above to see the scope of the media engagements he was conducting.

As more evidence surfaces the relationship between journalists, Fusion-GPS, Chris Steele and the media’s DOJ/FBI sources begins blending together.  The FBI was using media reports, which were based on Fusion-GPS pitches, to bolster its investigative documents to the FISA court:

According to the U.K records, Christopher Steele reports this September 2016 meeting with Isikoff was arranged by Glenn Simpson. According to Michael Isikoff today on his podcast, he met Christopher Steele at a Washington, D.C. hotel in Sept. 2016. They were joined by his “old friend” Glenn Simpson, the founder of opposition research firm Fusion GPS, who Isikoff now defines as a “private investigator.”

So Christopher Steele was meeting with journalists, the journalists were writing articles; the FBI was leaking to media and simultaneously citing those same articles as underlying evidence to support their counterintelligence investigations; and all of this was used to validate the investigative documents the FBI was receiving from Christopher Steele; who, along with the leaking FBI officials, was also the source of the media articles.

FUBAR!  This is exponentially bonkers.

This is a circle of information, all coming from Glenn Simpson at Fusion GPS, who was the opposition research firm being financed by Hillary Clinton, along with FBI officials who were using their own strategic leaks to validate their own investigation.

Think about the scale of the reporting, and reporting on reporting, of anonymous leaks, false leaks, lies from “people with knowledge of the matter”, “government officials involved in the matter”, “people familiar with the matter”, “government sources” etc. all going in one unified and semi-coordinated direction – against the aggregate Trump administration.

Now, it actually gets even more convoluted.

Christopher Steele has sworn under oath that he met with multiple journalists (at least eight organizations) in September, mid-October, and late-October 2016: “at Fusion’s instruction“.  (pdf page #7)

Overlay upon that sworn admission with what Glenn Simpson (Fusion-GPS) told the House Intelligence Committee while also under oath about his involvement in sharing information derived from Christopher Steele:

(Testimony – pdf link, page #147)

…”without my knowledge and against my wishes”? 

Huh?

FBI Director James Comey admits to leaking his ‘memos’ to the New York Times.  FBI #2 Counterintelligence Agent Peter Strzok and FBI Attorney Lisa Page are caught in their text messages leaking to Politico, The Wall Street Journal and The Washington Post.

The FBI is caught, in at least one FISA application, using Yahoo media reports provided by them AND their investigative source Christopher Steele to establish a basis for FISA “Title I” surveillance; the most intrusive and wide-open search and surveillance authority possible.

The Clinton Campaign is paying Fusion GPS to conduct opposition research against Donald Trump.  In addition to Glenn Simpson pushing that opposition research into the media, Fusion GPS is also providing that opposition research –including information from contacts with media– directly to the FBI:

(pdf link – page #4)

… In addition to using the Fusion-GPS opposition research to underpin their counterintelligence investigation, the FBI then turn around and leak the same opposition research information to the media to create secondary support for their counterintelligence investigation.

Tell me again how the media can possibly write about this now?

The problem is not just corruption with the U.S. Justice System, the DOJ and the FBI; the problem is corruption within the media.

We’re talking about thousands of hours of media TV pundits, thousands more columns written, and almost every scintilla of it based on originating intelligence sources -from the larger intelligence system- that are now being exposed as duplicitous and conspiratorial in the scale of their malicious intent.

This larger story-line has traveled in one direction. The narrative has only traveled in one direction. Each thread converging on codependent trails for collective stories all going in one direction. One big engineered narrative endlessly pushed. Think about how far the collective media have traveled with this story over the past eighteen months.

Now, in a period of a few weeks, it has become increasingly obvious the collective journey, using all that expended effort, was going in the wrong direction.

The media have fully invested themselves in eighteen months of narrative distribution in only one direction. Not a single MSM entity has questioned their travel as a result of false leaks or false sources in the totality of time they have covered the DOJ and FBI story.

Nothing within their collective need to will-an-outcome will change the media’s proximity to facts when the truthful story behind the DOJ and FBI corruption is finally exposed. The media are so far away from the place where this story ends, they have no inherent capability to even begin to travel in the opposite direction, toward the truth.

The only way they could align with the truth is to admit that virtually every scintilla of their reportage over the past 18 months was inherently false. There’s not a single media outlet capable of doing that.

Think about a New York Times, CNN, New Yorker, Wall Street Journal, Mother Jones, Yahoo News or Washington Post journalist now having to write an article deconstructing an entire foundation of lies they participated in creating.

Do we really think such a catastrophic level of corrupted journalism could reconstitute into genuine reporting of fact-based information?

Impossible.

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1,113 Responses to This is Madness – The Media are Just as Complicit In The DOJ Corruption and FISA Abuse…

    • Phil Bacon says:

      There is a mania at work here between Steele, specific reporters and specific editors who allowed publication of the leaks. All crazed by the prospect of a Trump election.

      More names need to emerge and some may call it a witch hunt. But when you have a cabal such as this casting curses upon and plotting the downfall of one man elected by the people to lead them, you do have a coven that needs to be exposed.

      Liked by 4 people

    • Tereese says:

      The interview with Nunes by Anderson Cooper was prefaced with the longest explanation of what one should believe based on the democrat perspective – and I quit listening before Nunes came on. It made me think of what Hannity said to Comey…”you have the right to remain silent”.

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  1. NC Nana says:

    FTA “Think about a New York Times, CNN, New Yorker, Wall Street Journal, Mother Jones, Yahoo News or Washington Post journalist now having to write an article deconstructing an entire foundation of lies they participated in creating.”

    Michael Isikoff (Yahoo News) and David Corn (Mother Jones) have written 2 books together. Glenn Simpson (Fusion GPS) is Michael’s “old friend”. I don’t see them singing from a new song book any time soon – – probably not in this life time.

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    • jogreggre says:

      Meanwhile, Sundance, Kim Strassel (WSJ), Victor Davis Hanson, a few at the Daily Caller, Sara Carter, and a handful of others, are doing the legitimate investigative reporting in the United States. Meanwhile the legacy media pumps out more disinformation, adding insult to the the injury their complicity/duplicity have caused this country. Almost every major news source except Fox was throwing sand in the eyes of America on Friday and Saturday.

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      • tappin52 says:

        This fact makes me wonder if Fox News is the only outlet that does not have a deep state employee buried in their ranks. They are not perfect by any means, yet they are continually criticized by Obama and certain Dem pols.

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      • El Torito says:

        To be honest, I have my doubts about Sara since she signed with FOX. She obviously has credible sourcing, but not that her work is run through a FOX filter, I can’t trust it. I do check her personal site and her Twitter stuff though. But via FOX, eh.

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  2. JoD says:

    Apparently, Michael Isadummkopf didn’t read Simpson’s testimony that DiFi conveniently released to give her friends in the media a heads up.
    What is the penalty for lying to Congress?
    I know, I know!
    18 U.S.C. Section 1001 ..Makes it a crime to make any materially false, fictitious or fraudulent statements ……witnesses who knowingly provide false statement are subject to criminal prosecution……up to 5 years….sad!

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    • formerdem says:

      I have to say I have a soft spot for Isikoff because he is the Blue Dress reporter, the one who wrote the story that began it all, the one that Newsweek spiked. Isikoff is of course a Democrat and cannot have enjoyed his discovery but he tried to publish it even so. He is kind of honest and I kind of like him.

      Liked by 4 people

      • Yadent says:

        ‘kind of honest’, which I assume is sarcasm. Like being kind of infected, kind of pregnant, kind of lying…………..

        Liked by 3 people

      • Streak 264 says:

        But, he may have been the one wearing the dress.

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      • Newt Love says:

        > “… Isikoff because he is the Blue Dress reporter…”

        That was 20+ years ago.
        This is now, and ALL OF THEY (D) Party Press HATE President Trump. Isikoff would relish a chance to be a “Trump-slayer.” He is (secretly) happy to be the one that provided the Steele Dossier confirmation, by writing into the Yahoo News what Christopher Steele told him to write (a circle-jerk that the FIB (agency formerly known as FBI) lied about to the FISA court.

        IsaDumbKoff is not worthy of any leniency!

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      • Jainphx says:

        Wait! The blue dress? That’s what made Drudge. He was the only one that DARED report on the blue dress.

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        • formerdem says:

          Yes but didn’t he actually use Isikoff’s research? I may be wrong but that is what I remember. Isikoff was shut up by Newsweek (Mark Whitaker specifically) and meantime the work made its way to Drudge. iirc

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  3. Ted says:

    Wow! This is huge! The Dems/Globalists Fake News propaganda machine was their most powerful weapon. It was already losing credibility fast because it was so obvious under Obama. Like getting news from Baghdad Bob. Then Trump punched it in the face and now, backed by this irrefutable evidence, it is going down for the count. I don’t see how they can recover, as long as these facts come out.

    Once again, great investigation and analysis Sundance!

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  4. woohoowee says:

    Also, remember all the fake polls, etc.?

    11/11/17:

    -snip-

    New York Times: We blew it on Trump

    -snip-

    Ah, there’s the rub. Had the paper actually been fair to both candidates, it wouldn’t need to rededicate itself to honest reporting. And it wouldn’t have been totally blindsided by Trump’s victory.

    Instead, because it demonized Trump from start to finish, it failed to realize he was onto something. And because the paper decided that Trump’s supporters were a rabble of racist rednecks and homophobes, it didn’t have a clue about what was happening in the lives of the Americans who elected the new president.

    Sulzberger’s letter alludes to this, promising that the paper will “striv[e] always to understand and reflect all political perspectives and life experiences in the stories that we bring to you.”

    But bad or sloppy journalism doesn’t fully capture the Times’ sins. Not after it announced that it was breaking its rules of coverage because Trump didn’t deserve fairness.

    As media columnist Jim Rutenberg put it in August, most Times reporters saw Trump “as an abnormal and potentially dangerous candidate” and thus couldn’t be even-handed.

    That wasn’t one reporter talking — it was policy. The standards, developed over decades to force reporters and editors to be fair and to build public trust, were effectively eliminated as too restrictive for the Trump phenomenon.

    The man responsible for that rash decision, top editor Dean Baquet, later said the Rutenberg piece “nailed” his thinking, and went on to insist that Trump “challenged our language” and that “He will have changed journalism.”

    Baquet also said of the struggle for fairness, “I think that Trump has ended that struggle,” adding: “we now say stuff. We fact-check him. We write it more powerfully that it’s false.”

    Baquet was wrong. Trump indeed was challenging, but it was Baquet who changed journalism. He’s the one who decided that the standards of fairness and nonpartisanship could be broken without consequence.

    After that, the floodgates opened, and virtually every so-called news article reflected a clear bias against Trump and in favor of Clinton. Stories, photos, headlines, placement in the paper — all the tools were used to pick a president, the facts be damned.

    https://nypost.com/2016/11/11/new-york-times-we-blew-it-on-trump/

    Yep, a rigged system!

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    • woohoowee says:

      My bold:

      -snip-

      But bad or sloppy journalism doesn’t fully capture the Times’ sins. Not after it announced that it was breaking its rules of coverage because Trump didn’t deserve fairness.

      Liked by 12 people

    • VickyD says:

      Trump didn’t challenge their journalistic language … he challenged their ethics. And they failed — miserably. Not sure they’ll ever be able to regain it. You reap what you sow.

      Liked by 8 people

    • Jay says:

      Ask yourself, if McCabe really did not say that the dossier was the center piece for the FISA warrant, would that transcript have leaked by now? Every leak tries to hurt Trump. The integrity of the democrats is questionable. Schiff leaks everything that helps the dems. I tend to believe the Nunes memo.

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      • Sandra-VA says:

        “I tend to believe the Nunes memo”.

        Why wouldn’t you simply believe the Nunes memo? Why the hesitancy? Because the MSM has infected your thinking without you realizing it…

        I find myself in that trap sometimes, but now I strive to look past the messengers and see the truth. The Nunes memo is facts without emotion, thus it is 100% believable. Not to mention all the evidence we have already uncovered via Sundance et al 😉

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  5. AndrewJackson says:

    I have read enough and am fully convinced of the coup to destroy candidate and now President Donald Trump. Treason was committed to throw the election to Hillary. Now where and when are the cuffs coming out?

    Liked by 16 people

    • formerdem says:

      Not cuffs. Votes. That is the key punishment. They love power. Take it away at the ballot box. That is the remedy. There is no other that will do the job.

      Liked by 7 people

      • Newt Love says:

        But we Deplorables like “cuffs” too. Remember “LOCK HER UP” ?
        Well, now it is Lock her, and Comey, and McCabe, et cetera, UP!

        Liked by 3 people

      • Linda says:

        Sorry. I want the cuffs, too. They tried to take our vote away from us. They deserve a few years rotting away behind bars to reflect on their fascism.

        Liked by 7 people

        • Remington..... says:

          Cuffs…? We don’t need no stinkin’ cuffs. We need gallows. The fix has to be permanent or they will go away, do a little shape shifting, and back in the game again. Remember, these …people…are the enemy. What do you think the outcome would be if the shoe was on the other foot?

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      • Doogiesblog says:

        No.. if we just “vote them out of office,” this will happen again. There has to be clear, swift and HEAVY punishment to these people. There is a sovereign nation, a constitutional republic, at stake. It must be protected. Too many people have shed blood for this nation to just “meh…vote them out of office!”

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      • Bakokitty says:

        No anything less than jail is merely a slap on the wrist. These treasonist media liars would go right back to printing lies and hiding their next print for hire hit on the next candidate or president they deem unfit. Gitmo is a fitting place for these domestic print enemy combatants.

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        • Founding Fathers Fan says:

          A ‘country-club’ minimum security, white-collar jail is all they’ll get and they’ll keep their $millions. They’ll write books and make more $millions. Lawyers are involved.

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      • Sugarhillhardrock says:

        All of this talk about the ballot box.
        We used the ballot box. They employed sedition….
        The ballot box is for virtuous, small
        r republicans, not Amerikans.
        The tree of liberty is watered by the blood of tyrants. if you want your republic back, think carefully about what that means.

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      • warmiga says:

        I want to see them dangling at the end of ropes!

        Liked by 2 people

  6. Keebler AC says:

    The public relations department for establishment politicians have been outsourced to the media. Alphabet soup network no longer reports the news.

    Liked by 6 people

  7. BD says:

    With everyday that passes I more fully comprehend the severe implication of this scandal from an ever growing expanse of angles.

    All of them confirm what most of us instinctively knew. The corruption is deep, transparent, and this country needs to return to a moral normalcy that is necessary to preserve individual freedom. Severely wounded individual freedom that nearly died in 2016.

    All branches of government: Legislative, Executive, Judicial, and while we’re at it, that precious “fourth” the democrats are always so eager to protect. Four out of the top four standard bearers of credibility were fully corrupted and leveraged to convince our collective American conscience of a lie.

    A lie to influence who should be our leader. A lie that is immediately disqualifying for said leadership. A lie that didn’t work!

    Because, despite all of this seditious BS and assuredly more, Trump still won. Therefore, there is no significant political risk in taking the entire criminal cabal to a public hanging.

    If this can happen to a Presidential Candidate, President Elect and then President, rest assured that when it happens to you… Nary a whisper will be shed.

    I trust that the only drama in this now is the impatience for resolution and rebirth of the founding institutions that made us the greatest civilization of all times. That has to happen.

    Otherwise, how is this movement even in the position it is now? For now, I have the patience, but would love some validation as soon as possible.

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    • Newt Love says:

      > “I trust that the only drama in this now is the impatience for resolution and rebirth of the founding institutions that made us the greatest civilization of all times. That has to happen. ”

      Testify, Brother!

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    • maiingankwe says:

      BD,
      Very well written, the whole thing was dang good.

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    • nimrodman says:

      That’s a great diagnosis and some great hopeful thinking, BD, thanks.

      But as to “this country needs to return to a moral normalcy that is necessary to preserve individual freedom …”

      I have to wonder how that gets accomplished when half the country don’t have the requisite “morals”?

      At least half of me feels it’s a bridge too far. “Sorry, baby, that train has sailed”, to quote Austin Powers.

      For one, it’ll require that parents re-take their school systems, the ones doing this:
      Kindergarteners Taught ‘White Privilege’
      http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2018/02/02/public-minnesota-kindergarten-class-teaches-children-about-white-privilege/

      Even in largely conservative school districts, how much control do conservative parents get to exercise over their children’s schooling to halt the Marxist control that is injected into the education system from the University level that trains the Marxist teachers and education-management “professionals”?

      Let alone less-conservative school districts where the Marxists and anti-westerners and anti-whites have entirely free reign to turn out at least half of America who will never have the requisite morals “to return to a moral normalcy”.

      The only chance at the educational system for conservatives to exercise control likely requires breaking away to charter schools where they can select the teachers and control the curriculum.

      Let’s do all we can and fight for a true America at every level we’re able, of course.

      But the forces arrayed against us – education, the press, Uniparty, go-along-to-get-along illegal-alien-hiring businesses and Chamber of Commerce, illegal aliens and refugees who are not American and don’t have the desire or ability to be one – are well more than half of American institutions and population, I fear.

      So a conservative attempt at wrenching the tiller away from those forces – at this point – amounts to not much more than a skirmish band of irregulars.

      Don’t get me wrong, my aim isn’t to be defeatist, just to recognize that it may already be game-over, despite our reinvigorated spirits under our President Trump.

      Perhaps the best we can hope for is the kind of self-destruction of the Left we’ve seen lately, with Dems sitting on their hands to cheers of “USA! USA! USA!” and emergence of a new generation of conservatives (my nephews in their 20s as an example; a report in comments yesterday that Canadian college students tired of political correctness are in the dorm lounge as a group cheering Jordan Peterson videos).

      Geert Wilders expressed a good historical perspective, I posted a comment in today’s Open Thread:

      “Fifty years ago, everywhere in the West, the ‘Down with the West’ mentality of the self-proclaimed ‘progressives’ broke through.

      ”Western self-hatred became the new fashion. Cultural relativism became the dominating trend among the ruling classes in the West.

      ”None of these things have happened in countries like Hungary, Poland or the Czech Republic. Its citizens are not indoctrinated day after day with the message that they are guilty of all the injustices in the world. Their cultural heritage is not being systematically subverted by the elites. Their past is not slandered by professional activists. They are still allowed to be proud of their nation. While we in the West are told that we should be ashamed of it.”
      http://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/02/02/geert-wilders-lessons-east-west/

      I often say “choose your ethnic enclave early”, and I think that’s where America’s headed.

      I’m highly doubtful we’ll be able to return to a nation of “moral normalcy”. Maybe it can exist in enclaves, as is the way things appear to be headed in Europe, with the moral enclaves being Hungary, Poland, Czech Republic.

      More than that and we’ll have to hope and work for a “conservative turning” that’s as powerful as that Leftist “Down With the West” change 50 years ago that Wilders describes.

      So fight where possible, certainly. And thanks for your perspectives and the phrase “moral normalcy”, that’s a powerful tagline.

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      • Fannie says:

        If you rock the educational boat they will take it out on your kids—put them in special ed, lock them in closets, shin you at PTO. (Here’s looking at you, Shawnee, KS schools—we moved to Texas because of you. Special ed kid graduated with a double major and honors from an elite private college. The one you locked in the closet during the school assembly is now in wealth management.)

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  8. David Reznor says:

    There is a great weariness that sets in when the enormity and scope of the “media’s” complicity with the Deep State begins even to be glimpsed, let alone fully realized. This, though, goes far, far back, and is deeper and more dirty than most human beings are able to even contemplate.

    I have invested thousands of hours of my life in its research, and it is truly overwhelming to discover just how thoroughly the CIA and other “intelligence” services have compromised everything we see and hear. One director of CIA, William Casey, said it exactly right: “We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.”

    And it almost is complete.

    What is written in this article by Sundance is brilliant insight—but not a word of it is even a slight surprise to me or many of my colleagues who are so war weary from discovering the enormous fraud that was put over on all of us in the giant hoax known as “Watergate.” The amount of it that is sheer manufactured fiction passed off as “history” is truly staggering, and every bit of it was knowingly, willfully planted in the public mind by the New York Times, the Washington Post, and the lap-dog TV networks.

    I can tell you, for instance, with absolute, unshakeable certainty that Daniel Ellsberg and the New York Times, followed by the Washington Post, published the essentially useless Pentagon Papers in total collusion with the CIA for the EXPRESS PURPOSE of setting up the “Plumbers” and framing Nixon. Bob Woodward, at all relevant times, was a covert operative for the Deep State. “Deep Throat” was never anything but truly awful spy fiction, written by E. Howard Hunt and fed to a gullible scandal-hungry public with malice aforethought.

    These are only glimpses, but I wouldn’t say them if they weren’t proven beyond the thinnest shade of doubt. Our findings were memorialized by Ashton Gray in his book “Watergate: The Hoax.” It is a chilling glimpse into the bottomless blackness of sheer malignant calculated evil.

    And by the way: I would bet everything I own that Spielberg was tapped recently by the Deep State to produce his putrid “The Post” movie, glorifying these scum, specifically to attempt to get in front of and discredit Ashton Gray’s exposure of their treasonous perfidy.

    Thanks for allowing me the company here of rational people.

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    • distracted2 says:

      No, thank you for this insightful post!

      What do you think is the end game of this disinformation campaign? What would it accomplish?

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    • formerdem says:

      Well, it is more fun to be needed… When I was a Capitol intern showing off the architecture of the Capitol, the symbols of America when our country was young, I used to think how fun it must have been, to try to raise up this new country when it had to be clever to evade its rivals and enemies. Think of it that way, we have the challenge again of striving to prove that democracy works. We’ll win again.

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    • wolfmoon1776 says:

      It took me decades to see what was wrong with Watergate. Once you see the big picture – that it was a massive plot to remove Nixon after cornering him into serving the needs of the left and particularly Russia and China – it all made sense. Hillary was a footsoldier in the plot – now, trying to collect on her “due” as perhaps the most senior plotter. Truly incredible. The utter FAILURE of the two “heroic” journalists to ever do any other “great” work – to EVER confront Obama (with one of them trying weakly, and getting thrown under the bus) proved that they were nothing but pawns.

      Thankfully, they’re all about to answer for things, but it may be rough. That’s OK. They did far worse than what they did to Nixon. If we have to, throw the bodies of their victims in the street. DUMP the evidence and shock the world. I’m beginning to think they need a good stiff dose of shock and awe.

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      • suejeanne1 says:

        Breathtakingly resonating: “The utter FAILURE of the two “heroic” journalists to ever do any other “great” work – to EVER confront Obama (with one of them trying weakly, and getting thrown under the bus) proved that they were nothing but pawns.”

        I recall in the early days of the Clinton administration, thinking surely “Woodward and Bernstein” should surely take this up (Waco/posse comitatus, and the death of Vince Foster, for starters) . . . I was hopeful and more idealistic than I realized and bought Woodward’s “The Agenda” . . . well, nothing really in that . . . and nothing much EVER about either of the Clintons or Obama.

        It took me a while!

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        • wolfmoon1776 says:

          Woodward and Bernstein were USED. They were chumps used to take down a chump President. ALL useful idiots to the communists.

          SAME THING AS NOW – government-media COLLUSION. Poor Nixon never had a clue what happened to him. I used to laugh and mock his “I am not a crook.” Now I understand it. He wasn’t. That’s why he didn’t know how to keep from being TRICKED into being one. And the worst part of all? BLAME THE VICTIM. They called HIM of all people “Tricky Dick”. He only thought he was tricky. He was a chump, and like so many chumps, he was baited into “easy” ill-gotten gains.

          Hillary has much to answer for. Bet she knows all the names in her little corner of the plot. Bet it’s a very interesting list.

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        • El Torito says:

          great post Wolfmoon.

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    • Sandra-VA says:

      Excellent post, thanks for sharing, David. I just clicked to your site and am delighted to find SANITY! I have bookmarked and will become a regular reader.

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  9. Bubby says:

    We have met the enemy and he is us. – Pogo

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  10. joeknuckles says:

    The biggest problem the propaganda pushers have is that they believe their own bullshit.

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  11. emet says:

    Go to the MSM. Shop the Pelosi dossier. Or a leaked Navy report implicating McCain in the Forrestal fire. There will be no interest.

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  12. Newt Love says:

    > “… The Media are Just as Complicit In The DOJ Corruption and FISA Abuse…”

    My shoes are soiled by the same debris as the cuffs of my trousers.

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  13. WSB says:

    SD nails it. FUBAR.

    For all the media’s singularly directional travelers, I have two words for you…Trump Tesseract. Beware!

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  14. Joshua says:

    Are people really wondering when “this story” will get ‘traction’?
    Traction where? traction from whom?

    I believe MVW above is correct in saying:
    “Until those running the media are dealt with our future is in trouble. It is not enough to discredit the media.”
    (I also think its not just those running it but those emerging from the ‘Education System’ and running into it. Attacks are present on all possible fronts. If there is a front that is not under attack, it will be as soon as they recognize it. Do you doubt me?)

    But the part about the media is correct, i believe, because, after all, How would one “discredit” them? Discredit them amongst who? Ask yourself what does the phrase “an honest reporter” mean to you. Then ask yourself what it means to someone on the ‘other side’. You will find the same or similar words are likely used, if not exactly the same; but, the meanings are ANTIPODAL. They could not be farther apart.

    The truth is: “We” are NOT speaking the same language – “We” do NOT have the same culture – “We” do NOT have the same ideals – “We” do NOT want the same thing.
    (see [*] below – after all, what is a country? “We” barely even like the same flag)

    — If you are waiting for a Media Mea Culpa – [stop].
    — If you are hoping for the public to sour on the Obama Admin – [don’t].
    Neither dismissals nor handcuffs will bring these.

    This is their Identity. This is their Religion. You can no more separate them from it than you could an islamic suicide bomber from his Islam.

    Now, on a happier note, this, being a never ending battle, has its ups and downs and we are definitely in an UP period. So rejoice in the removal of the corrupt and enjoy the warmth of exposure and sunshine … even if fleeting. I think those are things to look forward to; if one wanted to look forward to something in this abusive ‘marriage’ we find ourselves in.

    P.S. I sincerely apologize for this post. It is full of negativity and not worth the pixels it appears on nor worthy of this exceptional website. I blame it on the few drinks I’ve had this evening.

    [*] – About 8 or 9 years ago I (not the first I’m sure) proposed a possible solution. That is to split the country in 2 so they can ruin their own side and we can live in peace. I still believe it to be the only escape.
    (now, commence with the flaming)

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    • wolfmoon1776 says:

      I want to try Trump’s way, but I have to admit that I’ve thought of what you are saying many times. But when I realize that this is what Stalin WANTED, I rebel against that thought. I’m willing to try quite a few other alternatives.

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      • WSB says:

        To see Wolf Blitzer have a meltdown and Bret Baier sweating while interviewing Nunes on Friday was telltale. They seem to know the game is soon up. Maybe the Fusion GPS bank information will be coming out soon.

        Who will cover that? POTUS tweets?

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      • Remington..... says:

        Right Wolfmoon….I remember election night. My wife asked me if I thought PT could pull the Country together. My response is no way. Since that night, the divide has gotten progressively worse. PT would need a miracle to make this happen. Must say that what her done has been miraculous, so let let it ride – for now. Ultimately, I think we’ll .need a “two state solution”. Look at it this way, never having to see or deal with these shit bum liberals again……nice.

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    • starfcker says:

      “This is their Identity. This is their Religion. You can no more separate them from it than you could an islamic suicide bomber from his Islam.” True, but what could separate them from their religion is the bump in their paychecks. “It’s the economy, stupid”

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    • rf121 says:

      The Civil War proved that States that disagreed with the Union were not free to leave. But yes, we are clearly a country of two separate ideoligies that typical politics maynot be able to resolve. I fear that PT has just delayed things. They control the media and eductional instituitions. With those two that is all they need to keep the masses controlled.

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      • Founding Fathers Fan says:

        Lincoln was willing to kill every man, woman and child in the seceding States to ‘preserve the union’.

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      • Tereese says:

        I think there are more good guys than bad guys and the notion that we have two separate countries is more than likely fake news. I’ve been reading that Trump really won the popular vote and that information will be forth coming in future memos. I believe it.

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    • Joshua says:

      Actually… I can recall my proposal almost verbatim – probably also thanks to the booze (The website has since switched to Discr@p comments. it would take work to dig up the original). I was debating with an evangelical republican who was staunch about purity tests for the 2012 candidate and I was trying to explain to him that they lost the gay marriage battle – and to try some tolerance, if only for appearance sake. He thought me wishy-washy, so I told him of my own solution of splitting the place in two:

      “I would even give them their pick of side. And not that they wouldn’t field an army, I would agree (insist) on providing for continental defense. We would build our nice little wall and they could do as they will. More and more would come as they gave more and more away. With any luck, it would be over in a lifetime and we could do as we will. I for one might provide mercy, but they would all have to wear rainbow colored “D” on their clothes. And neither they, their children, nor their grandchildren could ever vote, or participate in the media.”

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    • South Col says:

      You are not wrong, in the end state secession groupings might be the only viable solution to preserve American Liberty and culture from the marxist US haters who control everything permanently because they are permanent bureaucrats. It’s only right now they even care who the govt is…..it finally matters to their future.

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    • andi lee says:

      Simpler solution: outlaw political parties.

      (And, get the Union out of gov business!)

      Liked by 1 person

      • starfcker says:

        Easier solution. Cut the funding. I’m pretty sure that’s the angle Trump is going for. Leftists cannot survive without the largesse of government. The further they get from power, the easier this is going to get

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    • Joshua says:

      And just so I don’t get myself in trouble again: As I told the commenter I was debating with,

      This was just a Proposed Possible Solution, not that I was Promoting it. I was not. I’m a scientist, not a politician, and it was simply a Dispassionate observation.

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    • suejeanne1 says:

      I say that we send that other half into that same place that Super Man put all those dastardly villains – sort of a warp – in the movie with Christopher Reeve, the villains looked like our current villains do in Sundance’s picture with the dominos – put them THERE, let them not ruin any more any part of the country! 🙂

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    • El Torito says:

      I am not willing to split the country in two equal parts. I am more than ready to wall off California and dump them all there. No doors. 60 foot walls. Only way in by parachute. Dump them ALL there, then set it on fire. Don’t feed them – let them cannibalize each other.

      On a realistic note, like any other war, we must cut off their supply lines, in this case, $.

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  15. wolfmoon1776 says:

    We have our work cut out for us. But it will be rough. We may actually have to ATTACK the media in no uncertain terms. To basically call them out for their incompetence to a degree that we have not previously been comfortable with. To use cultural anti-Marxism against them. Topple the false idols.

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    • ForGodandCountry says:

      Fortunately, the MSM themselves are proving the wisdom of Abe Lincoln, who said:

      “You can fool all of the people some of the time, and some of the people all of the time, but you can’t fool all of the people all of the time.”

      Look at the past 4 national elections (generals + mod-terms). America is awakening! The power of the media is waning.

      What is left will be the retribution the nation.

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    • wolfmoon1776 says:

      To do this, we have to either BUY Twitter and return it to free speech, move the ENTIRE conversation to somewhere that has free speech, or build up a new Twitter dedicated to free speech. We have to create an alternate culture that’s smart, funny, mean as an alley cat when it needs to be, utterly free for the proclamation of Western religious belief (meaning non-violent), and able to DRAW away all thinking people, because in contrast the left is a cultural wasteland. Turn American Marxism’s cradle into its GRAVE.

      Part of that is hiring. We have to END government interference in hiring and firing, so that any employer can kick out communists and their political ilk. Once that happens, they can’t subvert the new tech. We may have an opening for that soon. It doesn’t seem possible now, but that can change.

      This will be a huge fight, but it’s a necessary one.

      We have to open up a new front in this war. WE offer the REAL diversity of thought. It will drive the other side NUTS. We just destroy them by offering a better product.

      Part of the real FEAR of the left is being stupid. Well, we are about to be handed BOMB upon BOMB in that respect. So we need to use them. We IGNORE how the fake news plays to its constituents, and instead denigrate it as utterly INFERIOR and STUPID to us, and by extension, to its followers. OANN is already worlds better than Fake News. We have to showcase the good stuff and RIP the other stuff not as biased, but as WRONG, TERRIBLE and IDJOT.

      While I don’t think this is reasonable, imagine if we all BLOCKED CNN and Jake Tapper on Twitter? THAT reaches the boardroom. We do have a choice.

      I have noted on Twitter that the leftist companies react like crazy to any criticism of their “promoted” tweets. I’ve been merciless on the spy farce of “Google Home”, and I know I hit bone with those bullets. Boycotts are only marginally effective – it’s too late by the time you get there – but spread bad word about their new moneymakers in the crib – SLANDER them with TRUTH – they curl up into a fetal position.

      We have to get tough. Strap on those AR-15’s of info-war and stream into the jungle.

      The Big Ugly will need more UGLY.

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      • MM says:

        Check your stock portfolios. Make sure you are not investing in some of these companies.

        Liked by 2 people

        • wolfmoon1776 says:

          Good point. Thanks. I need to talk to people. I tend not to think about money, but we do have warning. Might as well use our Treehouse knowledge to prepare.

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          • MM says:

            My family and friends had no clue who they were investing in.
            I made a list of stocks for them to dump. We all cleaned up our portfolios
            and will not invest in any company that bad mouths our president. I actually
            moved mine to sidelines waiting for wall bonds to be sold to put my funds to good
            use. I realize most people can’t do what I’ve done but I’m very fortunate that I don’t need
            my money I’ve put back. Everything I have is paid for and I’m on my own so I have very little expense. Just don’t fund people such as Jeff Bezos, twitter. etc…I’ve always said we were funding our own demise…..

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    • suejeanne1 says:

      Why not start by asking them simply – what is Clinton to you? what is Obama to you? Don’t you realize they have been using you guys and are basically pretty cavalier about the “fourth estate”?

      What do you owe to the Clintons or Obama? Don’t you realize that by being so protective of them to the point of being totally illogical that you give the distinct impression of being blackmailed or intimidated by them in some way?

      There is an expression that is really great about habits that become really bad habits: “the chains are so light that they are not noticed until they become so heavy that they are nearly impossible to remove” – why don’t you throw off the chains that the Clintons and Obama have placed on your minds, your ethics, your mission in life?

      Look back to that time when Dave Sperry (then with Investor’s Business Daily) attempted to interview then-President Clinton and how the rest of the news media were then already acting like cattle or sheep – that they allowed Joe Whatisname to be so insulting to a member of the press who had the nerve to ask the president a question – that the reporter would never be invited again to any White House soirees – check it out: “My Picnic With Bill” – were you one of those munching on hot dogs and mystified by a fellow reporter asking the President when he was going to give a press conference? Reporters generally – as I recall – stood back and had nothing much to say in defense of their colleague.

      Reporters seem to be worried about not being invited to any more parties, they act like they think the Clintons and Obama are their benefactors – the Clintons and Obama are like Miss Haversham in “Great Expectations” sitting around with the old wedding cake with all the curtains drawn.

      Throw open the curtains! Let in some fresh air!

      This could be the beginning of an exciting new era of journalism!

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      • wolfmoon1776 says:

        This brings up a good point. We need to MAKE HEROIC the good guys on the right. Journalists, thought leaders, everybody. Even if mysterious like Sundance, I think we just have to start using our power of selection to give ATTENTION to the good and IGNORANCE to the bad. When people don’t know what we’re talking about, we have to signal that – well – they are CULTURALLY UNAWARE. Sorry – you know scumbag rapper $l0BoniO J. but you don’t know ACE OF SPADES? *moves toward the bar*

        Now, the left has a cottage industry of people ready to LABEL people on the right (Nazi, fascist, “white nationalist”, whatever), and some of it is getting us to shoot ourselves, which they are VERY good at getting us to do (witness the Wictorites versus “Noob Right”, which was a grand and victorious psy-op of Deep State). But TRUMP and POMPEO are putting a screw to our internal cultural Marxists, who are FLEEING .gov as we saw with the Comey Homey. And NeverTrump has never been weaker. Time to GRIND them to nothing, and re-establish cultural headway on the right.

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  16. RyanG says:

    It just absolutely floors me that not one reporter inside the establishment media has broken ranks. They have to see the writing on the wall. Not one wants to get on the right side of history?

    Liked by 4 people

    • starfcker says:

      Ryan, not one of 35,000 FBI agents has broken ranks. And yet we have to listen to all the warbling about professional career people in the rank-and-file. Where are they?

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      • maiingankwe says:

        Starfcker,
        It was either Anonymous or Q who had stated there are a great number of FBI employees who have been doing the “tell all”. He made it sound as if they were coming in droves. If so, I would think it had to do with all of their pent up frustration and the feeling of, “finally, there are people will listen to me and still allow me to hold my job.”

        So even though we aren’t seeing it in public, it does not mean it’s not happening; the whistleblowers have been busy with their whistles. I have faith this is true, especially when we keep hearing from Nunes and other white hats that the majority of the FBI are good and honorable people.

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      • andi lee says:

        Found ONE for you, Starfcker.
        There’s hope more will join him.

        Liked by 4 people

        • WSB says:

          I wish I could tell if Luntz is geniunely on a mend, or is he just trying to push deck chairs around, watching icebergs float by?

          He may be a bit scared.

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      • Beverly says:

        They’re hanging out somewhere Out There with all those Moderate Moslems we keep hearing about.

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    • Yadent says:

      There is no perceived benefit for breaking ranks. The potential for influence and big $ still exists within the establishment media.

      Liked by 2 people

      • maiingankwe says:

        Yadent,
        …and they are still under the illusion they will still win. Remember, they all live within a bubble, and have no real concept of what patriotic Americans think, nor do they care. It will be their own downfall, and personally I cannot wait.

        Most of them are weak in character, it’s why it’s been so easy for the deep state to control them and their narrative. The others are just arrogant beyond belief, Chris with the tingle up his leg is a prime example of that. So it wouldn’t surprise me one whit to see a few break ranks and sqeal and rat out their felow colleagues. It will be awhile yet for that to happen, they’re not as intellectually above us as they think they are, but when they can’t ignore the bright, red writing on the wall the will break ranks. This is only my opinion.

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    • Founding Fathers Fan says:

      Reporters work for large ‘news’ corporations and couldn’t get published even if they wanted to break ranks.

      Liked by 1 person

      • KBR says:

        Large news corporations with many foreign stockholders and some major foreign stockholders who have apparently been able to PURCHASE the US Constitutional right to free speech.

        Now corporations filled with foreigners have bought, with shares of stocks, “US-freedom of speech” and even to determine what will and will not be spoken in our “Constitutionally free-press.”

        Big *international* corporations have purchased a National (meant for the US Nation) US constitutional right.

        MSM is owned “inter-NATION-ally.” Therefore MSM is not, and cannot be “the press” as in the US Nation’s Constitution. It should be denied any and all “press rights.” It should be denied any right to call itself “press,” in the USA.

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        • abstain says:

          This is good. The rights of the press shall not be infringed, but what does foreign ownership do to the definition of “the press”?

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          • KBR says:

            Abstain,

            that portion of US Constitution stating the Congress shall make no law that INFRINGES the press, has been utilized by many persons not even covered by the Constitution-foreigner interests and their friends- to keep Congress from making laws to PROTECT the US Press.

            It is high time we recognized the US Constitution for what it is: a document defining US CITIZEN rights.

            Our rights should never be up for sale to foreigners, yet foreign stockholders buy stock in media corporations that tell those who call themselves “the press” what they can and cannot say.

            And Congress fears to say one word about making ANY law to protect the US press from foreign purchasers and their efforts to abridge the press.

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  17. Streak 264 says:

    I have read stories about the CIA helping fund media. But, cable/sat subscribers actually keep the msm afloat. Cut the cable and stop the funding!

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  18. EbonyRapror says:

    Trump’s presidency is THE battle for our country. The media has been the propaganda wing of the Left for a long time – there’s nothing new about that. What is new is that now there is the real possibility of everything the Left has accomplished over many decades being torn down so the Left is desperate to do everything they can to stop it. There is nothing to be gained by putting on the unbiased masks they’ve tried to wear for so long. It’s all on the line now. This is a civil war and many in the media, the Democrat Party and government agencies are guilty of sedition so from their point of view they have everything to lose if they don’t get rid of Trump and stop the MAGA movement.

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  19. andi lee says:

    Our representive government on the hill, too, used the media to promulgate “the big lie”, to all their “little” lies.

    Which was, of course, Russia!: hacked Podesta, the DNC, & the election, colluding with Trump campaign to find HRCs emails, 😂; Character assassination of POTUS, Trump’s chosen Admin, Cabinet, Judges, Directors, Commissioners, Staff, etc., & still ongoing today.
    (Dr. Ben & Candy Carson, have called for an investigation, into threats. Protection is needed, moreso, imho.)

    No more clearly, can be seen than with Senator Sessions’ AG confirmation hearing: during Al Franken’s line of questioning. “The big Gotcha!” question. All planned, coordinated. Recusal. Special Council. Hands off HRC.

    Ambassador Kislyak bumping into Jeff Sessions during the campaign trail was no mere coincidence, it was well orchestrated.

    “Appearance” matters. Unless, your name is Robert Mueller.

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  20. Old Lady says:

    I expect most of you, like me, have a few sites you visit. The most reliable information is here. I recall some while ago being totally dependent on FOX. I gave them up and haven’t missed for one minute the fair and balanced.

    Point is, I anticipate others will soon find this place and figure out they don’t need the rest.

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  21. ForGodandCountry says:

    You all have heard me say before….

    I loath the evil of people like the Clintons, Soros, et. al. I abhor it and them….the collectivist marxists. But my greatest contempt and whitest of hot anger is reserved for the Goebbelists…the media…and in particular human filth like Dan Rather, Andrea Mitchell, Jim Acosta, Rachel Madcow, and all of their ilk.

    Without them…without the duplicitous, underhanded, knowing, and willful abandonment of their duties, obligations, and responsibilities to objectivity and fairness in favor of outright ideological advocacy…all at the expense of truth and reason…we would not be where we are as a nation and society today.

    As you know, the Fourth Estate (or fourth power….the first three being the 3 branches of our gov’t) is that segment of our society that wields an indirect but enormous influence on society, even though it is not a formally recognized part of our political system. The most commonly recognized part of the fourth estate is the news media, or press.

    These are the ones with special access to gov’t officials via media credentials and public voices….the gatekeepers….the watchdogs…entrusted to faithfully and objectively report objective, unbiased fact to the people so that we, through our elections, protests, letters, polls, and otherwise may govern ourselves as the Founding Fathers established with their very lives and fortunes.

    They….more than any Clinton or Soros…are the true betrayers to the USA…the enablers, the liars, the distorters, the obfuscators, the distractors, the sowers of division and rancor, the boot-licking elitist coat-tail riders. These are the Goebbelists.

    Did you know? Joseph Goebbels was Hitler’s Propaganda Minister. How heinous was he? At the very end of his black life, in Hitler’s bunker, his wife Magda murdered their 6 young children using cyanide capsules after drugging them to sleep so they couldn’t resist. Goebbels himself was such a coward he waited outside their room while she poisoned their own children. They then committed suicide.

    Today their kind are poisoning our own children….indoctrinating them with the pure evil of subjective thought, that boy are girls, girls are boys, that our beloved America should be hated, our traditions to be held in contempt, that our God is not real.

    By all means, friends, lock up Hillary Clinton, imprison folks like James Comey, Eric Holder, Loretta Lynch, and all their kind. But for the Goebbelists….

    (edit)

    I shall not write any further and you may infer what is left unsaid.

    /rant

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  22. distracted2 says:

    This article gives new meaning to Trump’s declaration, “The media is the enemy of the American people.”

    Liked by 8 people

  23. AmericaFirst says:

    When I read these I keep seeing “The Truman Show” bubble. A few escape, but most think they are reading the real news of the real world. And since it is real and they see it they cannot fathom what we are talking about.

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  24. Badger 1 says:

    So who were these FISA Kangaroo judges, where are they now, and how &
    where did they ever get their law degrees and licenses from?

    Liked by 2 people

    • suejeanne1 says:

      yes, wondering that too!

      Liked by 1 person

    • KBR says:

      Perhaps their degrees, diplomas and law licenses were rubber-stamped, to prepare them for the rubber-stamp FISC.

      You know those judges who, in secret, simply rubber-stamp approvals to remove 4th Amendment protections from US citizens, for the benefit of lawless crooked US spies and even, however indirectly, to DNC, BeanLLC, and all manner of Yahoos.

      And when NSA tells them of the 4th amendment issues, they write a stern warning, Oh my! And then go ahead and rubber stamp further approvals to the same crooks.

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  25. jmclever says:

    Time to refer Glen Simpson for prosecution. He was even instructed at the beginning that lying to Congress was against the law. Book him, Dano!

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  26. Ip Siscr says:

    Paul Craig Roberts states the essential import of the Nunes memo was already available from declassified FISA court records, and wonders why the Republicans and the WH are not emphasizing this.

    https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2018/02/02/press-prostitutes-lie-teeth-house-intelligence-committee-report/

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  27. Le Borgne says:

    At the risk of stating the obvious, we truly, finally, have arrived at an inflection point. It was talked about 20 years ago (by people like Limbaugh), but the crisis seemed far off (and a little over-catastrophized for ratings). There were troubling signs, but Bill Clinton, for example, really didn’t personify a true crisis. We have a crisis now. I have come to believe that if PDJT doesn’t fix this in 3 (or 7) years, the country we love is done. One guy and his supporters…that’s it. If he’s forced from office before the end of this first term, Pence takes over, and we’ll go back to the uniparty version of the Republican party. The swamp will redouble their efforts to ensure that we never, ever have a “Trump” again. So fortified, at that point, only armed insurrection will change the country’s course.

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    • KBR says:

      Bill Clinton absolutely personified a true crisis: no moral code of conduct at the highest level.

      Without an accountable moral code of conduct, the US was in grave jeopardy.

      If our leaders can get away with immoral conduct and lying, which Bill Clinton did and PERSONIFIED absolutely, why shouldn’t every other person in government?

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  28. keeler says:

    Interesting detail from the initial April 11, 2017 Washington Post report stating that Page was the subject of a FISA warrant. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/fbi-obtained-fisa-warrant-to-monitor-former-trump-adviser-carter-page/2017/04/11/620192ea-1e0e-11e7-ad74-3a742a6e93a7_story.html?utm_term=.a9263c795d72

    “Since the 90-day warrant was first issued, it has been renewed more than once by the FISA court, the officials said.”

    The reporters- including the ever-present Devlin Barrett- reported that the warrant had been renewed multiple times. This information was not public until the release of the Nunez Memo.

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    • John Rawls says:

      glad you posted that. I was reading in newsweek (which is always trying to shape the master narrative for the IC)…

      “The Russians were charged in a criminal case in 2015, though Page was not identified as their object of interest until April 2017.”

      http://www.newsweek.com/memo-nunes-trump-carter-page-russia-spies-796702

      “though Page was not identified as their object of interest until April 2017.”

      that’s significant.

      There was a FISA renewal occurred in April 2017 sometime. So i am guessing that they added something to it. What was it exactly?

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      • Joshua says:

        While maybe unidentified to the public, the FBI seems to have known about this. They approached him about it in 2013.
        _______________________________________
        Found on chillum’s (now @overchiii) twitter thing:

        jackpineradicals.com/boards/topic/is-carter-page-an-fbi-informant-who-wormed-into-trumps-campaign/
        ________________________________________

        — So, the FBI was keenly aware of [PAGE] and his ‘Russia Tie’s’ since 2013. He may have even worked with them in that conviction. Maybe he was surveilled before joining Trump, maybe not (I have to assume he was clean after).
        >>> They chose NOT to indict him.

        — It is suspected that the FBI was well aware of [MANAFORT]’s (and Gate’s) activity since 2012-13 (possibly much earlier). Maybe he was surveilled before joining Trump, maybe not (we have to assume he was clean after).
        >>> If they knew before, they chose NOT to indict them. Mueller saw fit to indict them just recently.

        — The FBI was apparently aware of [FLYNN]’s diplomatic conversations with Russian officials which were of a purely benign nature. Clearly someone was being surveilled. He gave false statements to the FBI when interviewed about these contacts. There is a claim that the FBI initially viewed this as an “honest mistake/mis-recollection”:
        _______________________________________________________________________
        therightscoop.com/catherine-herridge-the-fbi-had-concluded-michael-flynn-was-not-lying-to-them/
        >>> Mueller saw fit to indict him just recently.

        — I do not yet know how the FBI learned of [PAPADOPOULOS]’s activity from March-June 2016, but we can all make some guesses. He gave false statements to the FBI, he misrepresented timing of events, and he omitted the content of discussions involving “thousands of emails”. He was also constantly badgering the campaign to get a meeting and apparently only got to higher up campaign officials a few times. No meeting was scheduled or held. Here is the court document:

        http://www.washingtonpost.com/apps/g/page/politics/george-papadopoulos-charges-and-plea-deal/2253/?hpid=hp_rhp-top-table-main_papadopouloslink-1201pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory
        >>> Mueller saw fit to indict him. He straight up tried to mislead the FBI. He was a tool if you ask me. Always “bucking for a promotion”. Anyway, being offered Clinton emails isn’t a crime.

        <<>> These are all low hanging fruit. IMO, the only legitimate charge occurring during the trump campaign was PAPA and he was a doofus. I suspect the other 3 charges were dug up just to throw something to the wolves to keep Mueller’s Dream alive.

        Am I making any point we all don’t already know/suspect? Nope. I’m not. 12 months of constant Russia Collusion press and I have know idea what else they are looking at to keep this going. They must be really good about not leaking in that SC office eh.

        HEY MEULLER, WHERE’S THE BEEF ?

        oh right. it’s obstruction now… i forgot. obstruction for firing COMEY (who is clearly of his meds – I mean, wouldn’t you fire this nutcase too??)

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    • Thomas Anderson says:

      First time poster, love the website.

      It’s odd that several peaks of news interest (via google trends) in carter page occur right before renewals of FISA warrants.

      https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?cat=16&date=2016-09-01%202018-02-04&q=%22carter%20page%22

      10/21/16 – Original FISA “Title I” App.
      1/19/17 Renew #1 (90d) day b4 inaug.
      4/19/17 Renew #2 (90d)
      7/18/17 Renew #3 (90d)

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  29. maiingankwe says:

    Steele knew, absolutely and unequivocally knew that talking to the msm was off limits if he was to continue getting paid and working with the FBI, and yet he did it anyways. He didn’t just go to one or two, he shopped the whole bloody news network, and it wasn’t a one time deal either, it was month after month of shopping and talking shop. What a right pos.

    To be honest though, I originally thought the people he was working with at the FBI knew exactly what he was doing and more than likely encouraged him to do so. It’s not like they weren’t doing the exact same thing right?

    This is why it surprised me that they used this excuse to cut their ties with Steele. It also makes me wonder why they did so to begin with unless of course the heat was coming a bit much with the leaks and their closeness to it. It would be much easier to accuse Steele, especially with the number of outlets he was peddling to than taking responsibility themselves for doing the same thing.

    All I know is this is so infuriating, especially if I was to listen to these backstabbers (msm) going on as if they’re innocent and not complicit in the whole dang thing.

    I don’t remember if it was Anonymous or Q who had mentioned that our white hats are working on in taking down the msm. I do remember I had quoted it a week or two ago. One of the parts was the explanation of Internet Bill of Rights. The second part was, “President Trump’s war against the Deep State’s Mockingbird. Frauds in the msm will not stop until the standard of truth can be restored to the Fourth Estate.” I actually found this from Dustin Nemos at his You Tube page. He’s been pretty good at helping me understand Q and Anonymous, so feel free to check him out. He’s a young, bright guy who’s grounded and just seems like a really decent person who is as concerned as we are. I mentioned CTH to him, but I don’t know if he took my advice or not.
    Be well,
    Ma’iingankwe

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  30. andi lee says:

    Whoa! 🚨

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  31. Rynn69 says:

    The Mueller farce must come to an end. Now.

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  32. You guys do such good work here at the treehouse. Everyone is proud of your hard work and your ability to help our community of honest hard working Americans focus on the important issues of our time. Perhaps a Liberal will peek in from time to time and see the light. It’s really dark over there.

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  33. Conundrum says:

    I don’t do twitter but it might be time to start Rachel Maddow @TOKYO ROSE.

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  34. Ross says:

    All this and they still lost the election and they lost it to a political “newby”. It just emphasises yet again the magnitude of Trumps win.

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  35. nobaddog says:

    MSNBC the memo is nothing. CNN. Its all lies to protect Trump. The country has gone crazy. If i got my news from TV my only conclusion would be that i need to stop the republicans and P Trump. They are evil liars ruthless dictators that will destroy everything and start nuclear war. And people believe it. Im surprised that we and so many like us still know the truth. The truth is being hidden like never before! Its unbelievable…How do you stop the news media from this cover up??

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  36. scott467 says:

    So, Clinton/DNC/Obama pays Fusion GPS/Glenn Simpson to make up something dirty on Trump.

    Fusion GPS/Glenn Simpson pays Christoper Steele and Nellie Ohr (wife of DOJ Bruce Ohr) who come up with the fake ‘dossier’. The corrupt DOJ is involved from the start because Nellie Ohr is Bruce Ohr’s wife.

    Fusion GPS/Glenn Simpson, still being bankrolled by Clinton/DNC/Obama, pays Steele to shop the fake ‘dossier’ around to Marxist / Leftist propaganda outlets (NYT, WaPo, Yahoo, New Yorker, CNN, Mother Jugs).

    The America-hating Leftist / Marxist propaganda media start writing stories on the fake ‘dossier’.

    At the SAME TIME, Steele gives the fake ‘dossier’ to dirty FBI and DOJ agents — the same people who helped Steele make it up in the first place (DOJ Bruce Ohr’s wife, Nellie).

    The corrupt DOJ & FBI, uses the fake ‘dossier’, whose ‘credibility’ is supposedly ‘bolstered’ by Marxist Media stories, which were written at the behest of GPS-Fusion & Steele, who worked for the DOJ – FBI, to obtain multiple FISA approvals to spy on Trump.

    So it’s a Clinton / DNC / Obama / Steele / DOJ / FBI / Marxist Media circle jerk with leading roles played by Strzok, Page, Lynch, Yates, Preistap, Bruce & Nellie Ohr, Comey, Baker, Carlin, McCabe, all orchestrated by Clinton and Obama.

    Brennan / Clapper et al make sure the information gained from illegally spying on Trump gets into the presidential daily brief (PDB), at which point Valerie Jarret ‘unmasks’ EVERYBODY, and once unmasked, passes the Obama PDB around to 30+ staffers and numb-nuts like Evelyn Farkas.

    All of which was used to:

    Plan A: undermine the Trump campaign and help Crooked Hillary win

    Plan B: when that didn’t work, plan ‘B’ was to keep Trump from being inaugurated

    Plan C: when that didn’t work, plan ‘C’ was and is an ongoing attempted coup d’etat to overthrow a duly elected president and remove Trump from office

    They are now on plan ‘D’, which includes false flags, e.g., attempting to trigger a war with North Korea, attempting to murder the entire House GOP, and who knows what sort of false flag they have planned for the Super Bowl tomorrow in Little Mogadishu.

    And of all these traitors, engaged in the Highest Treason there can be, only TWO are removed from their jobs and NOBODY has been arrested or charged.

    If the rogue elements of the FBI/DOJ/CIA set off a dirty bomb in Little Mogadishu tomorrow, I wonder if THAT will be enough to prompt some arrests?

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  37. hidden says:

    MSM spent last 2 days claiming dossier is started by R’s. They started issuing corrections. Stell work started with D’s hiring.

    https://apnews.com/63c883156e314b68b86209d3b63890f5/House-Republicans-release-partisan-memo-on-Russia-probe?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP_Interactive

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  38. Sam says:

    In today’s world nobody ever go to jail. That really sucks!

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  39. Kaden Cheng says:

    Main stream media in the US has a long and sordid relationship with the truth specifically and ethics in general. 110 years ago the feud between Pulitzer and Hearst was the source of the term “yellow journalism” with Hearst thought to have been at least partially responsible for the sinking of the USS Maine in Havana harbor. I suppose the argument that the lack of recent sightings of purple unicorns does not preclude their existence can also be made for ethical (if not honest) journalists in the MSM.

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  40. scott467 says:

    “The problem is not just corruption with the U.S. Justice System, the DOJ and the FBI; the problem is corruption within the media.”

    _________________

    Yes.

    The exact same corrupt Marxist elements that have infiltrated the ‘news’ media since WWII.

    The war of communism against America didn’t END with the end of WII, that’s when it really got GOING.

    The exact same Marxist elements Sen. McCarthy was TRYING to expose and remove in the 1950s.

    The only thing different today is that many of these media Marxists are also on the Deep State / CIA payroll.

    Trump has all the evidence necessary to expose ALL of it, and he has a filled Zippo with a brand new flint, and a trench filled to the brim with racing gas.

    I don’t know what he’s waiting for…

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  41. Another Scott says:

    Yeah, wow the representatives in the media have really gone out of control. We should vote them out of office in the next election…wait a minute….

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  42. I am not a lawyer, but I wonder if Carter Page has the grounds for a civil suit against Yahoo, if not others.

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  43. scott467 says:

    “Nothing within their collective need to will-an-outcome, will change the media’s proximity to facts when the truthful story behind the DOJ and FBI corruption is finally exposed.”

    ______________

    Extremely similar to our own need to ‘will-an-outcome’.

    It’s war.

    The difference is the ‘outcome’ they are trying to ‘will’ is absolute TREASON.

    The are ENEMY COMBATANTS, actively involved in the attempted overthrow of our Republic. Donny Deutsch was calling for a “revolution” on national TV last night.

    THAT is what’s going on here.

    There is no ‘compromise’ possible with people seeking to MURDER your COUNTRY.

    There is no ‘middle ground’.

    Identify the Traitors, and then put them down.

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  44. scott467 says:

    “Do we really think such a catastrophic level of flawed ideology could reconstitute into genuine reporting of fact-based information?

    Impossible.”

    _____________________

    They are enemy combatants in the war for our Republic.

    Remove them from the field of battle.

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  45. M33 says:

    This isn’t madness…
    This is called LONG TERM PLANNING.
    The secret deep state has had people in all the major networks for a looooooong time.
    This is nothing new…
    EXCEPT we are FINALLY just starting to peel the first layer away of a very very big onion of secrecy that has been around us, trying to control us and the world for a very long time.
    From here… if we are willing to endure tge tears… it gets much more deeper, much darker… and things we eventually may wish we never knew.

    But we need to know.
    Freedom needs sunlight.

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    • scott467 says:

      Yes, 100%.

      Either take the blue pill and go back to sleep… and the Republic is lost.

      Or take the red pill, and find out how deep this rabbit hole really goes.

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  46. John Rawls says:

    speaking of Simpson testimony… there’s the part where Simpson was asked who else he discussed distributing dossier with… he refused to answer.

    steele’s “at Fusion’s instruction“ line made me think, hmm, they’ve been tasked with a job to do…

    who would ask Fusion to spread these rumors to the media? what’s in it for Her?

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  47. A2 says:

    The Wankerati. I rest my case.

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