DACA Timing – President Trump is Probing, Testing, Gauging, Timing for “The Big Ugly”…

President Trump announced a decision on DACA will be Tuesday.  Will this finally begin the “Big Ugly” confrontation?  Possibly, but one thing is certain, right now he’s probing.

CTH is not a seer of Donald Trump, and anyone who would claim they are should be necessarily dismissed.  President Donald Trump is the only entity who knows specifically what he’s going to do in the moments leading up to what he’s going to do; no-one else.  However, that said, CTH does have a pretty good sense of what evaluation processes Trump takes prior to action.  There are indications Tuesday might be the day.

There is one political enterprise within Washington DC and national politics.  There is only one enterprise.  That enterprise is the UniParty.  There is only one political party in Washington DC, with two internal caucuses – Republicans and Democrats.

The “Big Ugly” is the moment when President Trump decides to rip the masks off the remnants of the Republican wing of the UniParty within Washington DC.  In many ways the “Big Ugly” is the elimination of the Republican party, and the beginning of an era when a second party, a MAGA party, actually enters the blood stream of U.S. politics and stands against the UniParty.

The confrontation is inevitable.  It has been inevitable since the entire GOPe apparatus, including every single GOPe candidate within the 2016 Republican primary, stood up against Donald J Trump.   Candidate Donald Trump held an entirely different series of campaign platform issues the Republican apparatus abhors.  That’s why he won, and they didn’t.

However, Since the 2016 victory, the UniParty has thrown everything they can in front of him to block any advancement of those policies and platform issues.  Every political tool in the Republican armory has been deployed to eliminate the threat Trump represents. Reminder:

President Trump gave them a budget that reduces a trillion in spending; the republicans in congress balked. They openly said reducing spending is not their goal. Those same republicans are now suing President Trump and trying to force the State Department to spend on USAID  and NGO’s. Those same republicans supported Omnibus spending bills. Those same republicans will not support removing ObamaCare. Those same republicans are fighting renegotiated trade deals. Those same republicans don’t support a border wall.  Those same republicans supported launching ridiculous Russian conspiracy investigations; and the list goes on, including senate republicans using a strategic maneuver to block their own President from recess appointments during their summer recess…

This is the behavior of opposition, UniParty opposition.  During the recent Arizona speech and MAGA rally, President Trump came closer than ever before to igniting the fuse on the Big Ugly.

Now, with President Obama’s unconstitutional DACA possibly being eliminated, we see yet another example of masks falling.  Republicans in opposition to DACA being removed. The signs are everywhere the Big Ugly confrontation is closer than ever.  It’s President Trump against a unified DC system.

Corporations (special interest groups) write laws.  Lobbyists take the law and go find politician(s) to support it.  Politicians get support from their peers using tenure and status etc.  Eventually, if things go according to norm, the legislation gets a vote.

Within every step of the process there are expense account lunches, dinners, trips, venue tickets and a host of other customary way-points to generate/leverage a successful outcome.

But the important part to remember is that the origination of the entire system is EXTERNAL to congress.

Congress does not write laws or legislation, special interest groups do.  Lobbyists are paid, some very well paid, to get politicians to go along with the need of the legislative group.

When you are voting for a Congressional Rep or a U.S. Senator you are not voting for a person who will write laws.  Your rep only votes on legislation to approve or disapprove of constructs that are written by outside groups and sold to them through lobbyists who work for those outside groups.

While all of this is happening the same outside groups who write the laws are providing money for the campaigns of the politicians they need to pass them.  This construct sets up the quid-pro-quo of influence, although much of it is fraught with plausible deniability.

This is the way legislation is created.

This is the reason why congress had ZERO legislation for President Trump’s platform.  There is no entity within Washington DC, republicans or democrats, who support the Trump agenda.  That’s why no legislation has advanced.  President Trump’s entire patriotic perspective on MAGAnomics, national security, and focus on “America-First” as a priority is adverse to Washington DC’s decades-long political and financial interests.

A confrontation to draw out this truth is needed.  That confrontation is “The Big Ugly”.   DACA is merely symptomatic as a potential trigger for the confrontation.  The federal budget, trade-deals, non-military global intervention, immigration enforcement, the border wall, etc. are all similar triggers.

With the repeal of DACA announcement, President Trump is probing for reaction to judge the timing.  His tweets and announcements are figurative recons probing into enemy encampments to judge their position, measure their strength, and gauge their response on various fronts.  It’s all about timing.

Ever since Donald Trump entered into politics there is a key element he knows he needs to keep at the forefront to succeed against the UniParty.  To continue succeeding Trump needs all of his adversaries, our adversaries, to drop their masks.

Donald Trump has done a remarkable job at drawing-out the enemy behind the wire.  No-one would argue they hold the same perspectives on the Republican apparatus, and the GOPe punditry, they previously held prior to Businessman Trump becoming Politician Trump.

As both a candidate and a president Donald Trump has exposed a jaw-dropping number of political deceivers. He’s also single-handily exposed their hidden agenda(s), and proved beyond a shadow’s doubt that Republican’s were lying about policy and principle for years.

When President Trump speaks, he’s always highlighting these issues. He is also speaking on these issues, repeatedly, to draw out the hidden truth and create a larger awakening.  It is really, really, important to see that Trump is always trying to engage that larger awakening.

This weekend he’s probing again.  Judging the UniParty and media response to his visit to Houston. Sensing their attack position. Measuring the severity of the opposition.  Always probing, always working on instinct.  Always aware of the need for the larger awakening.

If, following his probes this weekend, President Trump does decide to eliminate the President Obama DACA program, yes it will clearly indicate the Big Ugly has begun.  The reason is simply because of the predictable consequences.

With the elimination of DACA, the Republicans will strike down funding for the border wall.  The Republicans will demand immigration amnesty.  The Republicans will openly rebuke every principle of trade renegotiation.  The Republicans will hold the debt ceiling as hostage. The Republicans will force a presidential shut-down of government, etc. the list is long.

With all of that the Republicans will be fully unmasked; and with that unmasking the U.S. electorate will see that President Trump’s opposition is a UniParty of Paul Ryan joining with Nancy Pelosi, and Mitch McConnell joining with Chuck Schumer, and both Democrats and Republicans united against President Trump.

Just like it was during the 2016 GOP primary and general election, for the UniParty it will be a zero-sum game; and President Trump will, yet again, be one man against an entire corrupt political apparatus.

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732 Responses to DACA Timing – President Trump is Probing, Testing, Gauging, Timing for “The Big Ugly”…

  1. Delilah says:

    Let me help peel off the blinders just a bit more….

    You cannot run as a Republican unless you adopt the platform of being anti-abortion. Even Trump had to tweak his message on that issue before running for office….

    Bear that in mind for a minute and allow me to add one more piece to this puzzle…..the Democrats have lost 1,029 seats. The DNC has lost so much that people are comparing their party to their numbers in the 1930s.

    Think of how many times the GOP has been in power in the last 20 years.

    And then understand that America has “THE” most liberal policy on abortion in the world, even more liberal than liberal countries. Our policies are so liberal that one could safely argue that it’s almost as if there has been no opposition at all for the last two decades…..

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    • Delilah says:

      The wife is always the last one to know…..

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    • sammyhains says:

      Republicans and Democrats fight over abortion because the multi-national corporations who control the UniParty don’t care about abortion one way or another — it doesn’t affect their bottom line. And when Republicans and Democrats are fighting each other over abortion, you don’t notice everything they’re NOT fighting each other about. It’s a great way for both sides to raise money & keep their followers loyal, without having to solve anything or anger the people who pull their strings and pay their expenses.

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    • Damien M says:

      Yep! They give lip service to it, but they do nothing to change it at the federal level.
      Abortion is settled law unless it finds it’s way back to SCOTUS and gets a different decision. Even the Texas attempt to force abortion clinic to be near major hospitals and be more regulated for safety, failed at the SCOTUS.
      R’s give lip service, but it doesn’t come up in legislation because it’s a waste of time. It’s settled law!

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  2. signer1 says:

    At worst, I see DACA as leverage in Trumps favor. At best, get rid of it, use money for rebuilding Texas without illegals.

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  3. signer1 says:

    At worst, I see DACA as leverage in Trumps favor. At best, get rid of it, use money for rebuilding Texas without illegals.

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  4. Texmom says:

    My guess is that he will get rid of it with some kind of exemption for those already on it, to combat their “compassionate conservative” argument. If so, then what can they say? Should be interesting.

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    • mimbler says:

      It’s what “we” will say. Amnesty to the 1.75 mill dreamers (the number varies depending on what they are selling), is an amnesty of the same magnitude Reagan gave (3 mil).

      And we saw what a flood across the border that amnesty gave.

      Actually, with the chain migration figured in, this amnesty would undoubtedly be larger than Reagan’s.

      And I suspect it is coming. PDJT has indicated from the beginning he has sympathy for the dreamers. I’m just hoping he has more sympathy for us citizens.

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      • Delilah says:

        There’s only 800,000 applicants in DACA.

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        • mimbler says:

          Yes, like I said that is one figure. It depends on whether they are selling or buying.

          How many people are affected by the DACA & DAPA program?

          The White House estimated that almost 5 million unauthorized immigrants could be directly affected by the DACA and DAPA programs. A recent analysis from the Migration Policy Institute estimates that as many as 3.7 million unauthorized immigrants could be eligible for the DAPA program, while another 300,000 people could qualify for DACA under the expanded guidelines. Based on previous estimates that 1.2 million people were eligible for the original DACA program, this expansion brings the total of potential DACA-eligible individuals to 1.5 million people. Taken together, the MPI figures suggest that 5.2 million unauthorized immigrants could qualify for protection from removal under the two programs. However, past experience suggests that the actual number who apply for the program may ultimately be much smaller, depending on outreach, access, cost, and numerous other factors”

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        • snellvillebob says:

          But where do you draw the line, the ones brought here at age 1, 2, 3. 11, 17, 31, 66?

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        • Damien M says:

          Technically, Trump has no more authority than 0bama to unilaterally change immigration law for “dreamers!” Immigration law is not changed by Exec Order! The SCOTUS pretty much said that when they shut down 0bama on it. I can see Trump allowing those dreamers on 0bama’s 3 year
          deferral to finish that term, but he should stop it for the future or else it will attract more illegals to come with their kids. If we stop giving them the incentive and strictly enforce our laws, it will slow them down. But without the wall, the next President can just ignore the laws like 0bama did. It’s important NOT to let ignoring laws to be tolerated!

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    • Chuck Roast says:

      More than interesting, getting rid of DACA was a keystone of Trumps campaign. While all of the possible interplay’s of the swamp people might be enlightening as things that could happen, he needs to get rid of DACA while he can.

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    • 6x47 says:

      You can’t do that: As soon as the requirements for the “exemption” are announced the Mexicans begin manufacturing fake documentation.

      Rewarding bad behavior out of compassion only insures the bad behavior will be repeated, grow, and increase. Look what the 1986 amnesty got us: A generation that believes that if they sneak in and hunker down long enough they’ll eventually be made citizens.

      The answer is to build the wall, deport them all.

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      • jmclever says:

        Covert Narcissists count of the compassion of their target to allow them to become more entrenched in their vampire-like life sucking hold on the target. To understand the UniParty, research Narcissistic personality disorder. Sundance has pointed this out before, but it seems like it needed repeating as the UniParty goes into overtime to ensure that it gets what it wants.

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  5. Meatzilla says:

    I hope you don’t mind, SD, but I just couldn’t resist. Er, I just gotta resist! 😉

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    • Founding Fathers Fan says:

      Why do these two keep winning their primaries?
      80% of Kentucky voters stayed home in the primary, even though McConnell was running against a conservative, so Mitch won, again. In Wisconsin District 1, Ryan ran against a conservative, twice, and STILL won because 81% stayed home in the first primary and 85% stayed home in the second primary two years later. The same scenario is repeated every two years in all republican primaries. The RINO wins because there’s only an average of 17% turnout in republican primaries. Where are the conservative voters in the primaries?

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      • 6x47 says:

        Usually it’s because no opponent with any stature runs against them in the primary. Some guy or gal with no money, no name recognition, trying to unseat a well-known national figure, in a district where most of the voters don’t know and don’t care (but can tell you all the sports scores and which Kardashian did what).

        The primary opponent has to make a good case for tossing the incumbent. If Paul Nehlen comes back again he should get more traction, now that Paul Ryan has been so open in opposition to President Trump.

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        • Bill in Lexington,NC says:

          I have decided that if I do not know of a recent felony by the challenger, I’ll vote for the challenger. At the very least, I’m getting rid of a tenured snake in favor of an inexperienced one. Once in a while, just luck of the draw, I’ll actually get to vote for a principled conservative.

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        • sturandot13 says:

          Paul Nehlen IS back again!

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      • Deb says:

        No one knew who Paul Nehlen was, conservative or otherwise. Most people are too busy working to follow the news of a primary when the opponent’a entire campaign is basically being run on Twitter and Facebook. Nehlen needs to get out and meet live people in the district.

        Ryan is popular in his disctrict. It’s not a conservative area at all. It’s full of country club RINOS, liberal elitists like his wife, and blue collar Dems, and Never Trumpers. That’s why he keeps getting reelected.

        I’d love to Cantor him, but part of why he was chosen for leadership was becuase he i so hard to beat in an election. We need to elect enough MAGA Republicans that can challenge him in the House so he loses the speakership.

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        • Bill in Lexington,NC says:

          It’s not an either/or situation. Weakening him at home makes it easier to remove him from his position as Speaker of the House.

          Do both.

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        • sturandot13 says:

          What I do NOT understand is that conservative Republicans in Wisconsin could have negated the 1st District’s idiocy in the primary by running a HUUUGE write-in campaign for Paul Nehlen. If most conservative Republicans had written-in Paul Nehlen for Congress in Nov. of 2016, Lyin’ Ryan would not have been back to stab President Trump in the back. What is it with people? Don’t they think that they can do this???

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      • SpanglishKC says:

        Voter suppression? Gaslighting? MSM assistance? There are many techniques….bastards

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      • TPW says:

        Trump made sure during his campaign that he was constantly in the news … He knows most are low info…..to get out the vote to replace incumbents… the white haired low info vote would have to have less of an impact….need an influx of new highly motivated voters. Having said that we must find a way to have a national drive to go in and awaken each states voters….no small task….kinda like a “citizens united” for us deplorables.

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        • auntiefran413 says:

          I take exception to your “white haired” comment. It is I and my generation who seem to be awakening our “Republican” grandchildren!

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  6. OnlyInAmerica says:

    Thank you sundance. If it weren’t for you and president Trump I’d still be walking around with blinders.

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  7. merlintobie says:

    Why stop with DACA? I want PDJT to come out, face the cameras and say “ALL illegal residents currently in the USA need to self deport immediately.” Those that comply within 30 days will receive bonus points in the new RAISE merit immigration system.

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  8. perpetuaofcarthage says:

    The problem is that they say 80% of the US voters support DACA.

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    • Another of Howie’s Rules: Bull$#!t!!

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    • ediegrey says:

      “They” lie.

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    • mimbler says:

      I agree, but I don’t believe those numbers. The people I am in contact with are sympathetic, but recognize the consequences of another amnesty.

      This is a classic poll that could be influenced by how the question is worded.

      I am sympathetic to the dreamers, yet want them deported when their two year exemption runs out.

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    • Mike says:

      Maybe on the East and West coast. I’m a truck driver in the Midwest, and there is no love for DACA here, or the folks currently flooding our job markets from overseas, mainly Europe and India. They come here and suppress wages along with their other annoying uncivilized behavior.

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      • Chuck Roast says:

        I can tell you that millions of people on the west coast hate the idea of DACA, but few of them in California are in Sacramento.

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      • M. Mueller says:

        “along with their other annoying uncivilized behavior.”

        This includes hotel/motel bedbug epidemics! Fighting this is a big expense to the industry that is passed down to all travelers.

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    • snarkybeach says:

      during the primaries, 80% said they preferred Bernie. anytime a percentage is cited, I get suspicious (example: 97% scientists agree with man-made climate change.)

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    • TatonkaWoman says:

      Yeah, 80% of voters…40% of them voting illegally.

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      • Bill in Lexington,NC says:

        If you ask the question as “Do you support throwing 9 year old girls to the mercy of rapists?” the answer is “No”. But if you ask the question “Do you support deporting adults who are in the US illegally?” then the answer becomes an overwhelming “YES!”

        We need to make our fellow citizens aware that there are a lot of the latter claiming protection under the DACA laws who DID NOT go to college and graduate cum loudly (sic) and are merely keeping legal American citizens from earning a living wage.

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    • Bill in Lexington,NC says:

      I don’t believe that. I call BS.

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  9. pcmoreland says:

    Actually, while I agree with Sundance the the Big Ugly is coming, I think it will wait some more. In order for the Big Ugly to be successful and GOPe has to be backed further into their own corner to such an extent that everyone can see it with little or not explanation. DACA is not that issue, but it is another cog.

    If I were Trump, I would wait for the most anticipated speech of his presidency with all the congress before him, The State of the Union. All the networks will be there, all will be telling us what to think and how to think about it, and the tension will be very high. If you decide to unleash the Big Ugly, there is no better setting, with the GOPe sitting there right in front of him, Ryan and McConnell right behind him, in the camera shot. Imagine the chaos as the all these congressmen and senators are there to be interviewed by the media when Trump calls them out.

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  10. **The problem is that they say 80% of the US voters support DACA.**
    ——————————————————————————————
    Uh, NO..
    most, if not ALL the Folks I talk to are AGAINST, the DACA..
    Especially Black Americans…
    Many of those folks are in the camp, that “Dreamers” & Illegal’s immigrants “stole” they’re jobs, While also driving up the cost of housing.
    Those Americans are frankly quite pissed-off, If the POTUS, Or ANY Future Pol running against the Uni-Party, can “focus” getting that message across, He/She will WIN they’re votes & A Election..

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  11. getouttahea says:

    Why is President Trump going through with this charade of needing a few more days to think about his DACA decision? He already knows what he’s going to do- and if he wants to be reelected he best handle DACA the way he said he would during the campaign.

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    • El Torito says:

      My guess is that he gave Paul Ryna a deadline to produce a bill with Trump’s agenda in exchange for letting Congress handle the 800,000 dreamers. What Trump does on Tues is simply if-then-else.

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    • mimbler says:

      I am confident he will end DACA. What I am unsure of is what he will do with the DACA people currently on the program. He is getting a lot of pressure to amnesty them, and has said from the beginning he is sympathetic to them.

      I am sympathetic as well, but want them deported when their two year exemptions run out. Amnesty is the easy way out for emotions, but ruinous to the country because it just prepares us for another flood of illegals to be amnestied.

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      • getouttahea says:

        Exactly right mimbler. DACA and every other program designed to give comfort to illegal aliens incentivizes more illegals to come here.

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      • sturandot13 says:

        It’s worse than that. This “open borders” and “chain migration” crap has been an open war against American citizens. If we – and President Trump – don’t do something to STOP the demographic destruction of the U.S., all of his other plans, ending Obamacare, tax reform, re-negotiation of trade agreements, etc., will be meaningless.

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        • mimbler says:

          I agree and so many people don’t get that. Flooding the country with people whose cultures do not match the US, speak different languages (and have no interest in assimilating), and come from socialist or islamic countries with political beliefs that contradict our constitution will bury this country.

          That is why immigration/invasion is my number one issue. Once the leftists get their minority/dem voting block tipping point, there is no going back.

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    • MaineCoom says:

      Timing.

      The Big Ugly MOAB will occur when the largest RINO-exposing impact can occur. This would trigger the onset of the course of expulsion of RINOs in the 2018 mid-terms.

      Onset of the Big Ugly MOAB will result in a slew of MAGA candidates throwing their MAGA hats in the ring. I envision the largest RINO-replacement scenario happening and whether or not Ryan is defeated in his re-election race, I envision he will be defeated as Speaker.

      It’s all about timing and PT is playing everyone like a fiddle including on the international scene — after all, God has his back.

      All in God’s timing. He’s the One and only One guiding PT. All others are advisors, imo.

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    • rolisize says:

      Waiting for Texas hurricane situation to be over, or maybe using the DACA as a bargaining chip for something he needs. Whatever the case, President Trump has not failed me yet, on TPP, Climate Accord, China trade and Nafta so im not worried

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  12. goswell says:

    My guess is that Trump will find a way to allow the dreamers to stay, along with their parents. He has stated many times. That if these people have no criminal record and are leading good lived, he would like them to stay.

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    • imprimipotest says:

      Yes … but illegal entry should ‘de facto’ give one a ‘criminal record’.

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      • sturmudgeon says:

        You are right! The ’emotional’ factor must be suppressed, as difficult as that is. It took eleven years, and mountains of paperwork for my wife’s sister and her husband to get here from Taiwan. Hard to take?… sure, but it was the legal way.

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    • mimbler says:

      He has indeed, and this is one of the rare places where I vehemently disagree with him for reasons stated elsewhere,

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    • Smarty says:

      I agree. It is both heartless and political suicide to deport kids who have been here since infancy or young childhood. The media Will have a field day.

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    • joshua says:

      sure….and HOW MANY of the PARENTS took the time and effort to learn ENGLISH and speak it exclusively in the USA Homes with these kids? The answer is NONE of them…and that is why these kids are not assimilated…they are merely somewhat EMPLOYED in jobs that belong to American Legal Citizens.

      They are PART OF THE SWAMP….stop with the pity stuff….they are here because Obama made it possible….not because it was a good idea for the nation or that the real citizens agreed with when Obama did the executive order.

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  13. Delilah says:

    We need to keep DACA and blanket amnesty of illegal aliens separate. It’s not the same thing.

    There’s only about 800,000 DACA applicants. For my state, there’s a whopping 24 applications. Texas has about 100.

    It’s pretty obvious that the Obama admin failed at getting enough people to actually sign up for the program. The uniparty just wants to use this as the wedge to force the door open wider.

    So the issue isn’t the small number of people actually in the program. If the govt. allows them to transition to becoming full-fledged citizens, fine. But the program itself needs to be hatcheted and buried in such a way as to never rise up again.

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  14. flowerbelle says:

    Saying DACA is “popular” or it “polls well” is a GOPe, Karl Rove talking point. It is another slap in the face to legal American citizens. It’s supposedly compassionate because it’s through “no
    part of their own,” well through no part of our own we have to live with the dire sometimes deadly consequences of unrestricted immigration.
    If the Dems and the GOPe want to prioritize illegal dreamers over natural born and LEGAL dreamers, let them have at it.
    They have done NOTHING on border security, e verify, visa tracking, sanctuary cities, electoral/voting integrity- absolutely NOTHING. And they have no intention of doing any of it; these are just election time talking points. We don’tt want to hear about any of their phony comprehensive plans; weare not going to compound the problem with another Simpson-Mizzoli.
    As their first step, they want to legalize dreamers???
    They say “the system is broken,” well that’s because THEY broke it by not enforcing our laws.
    Make them vote and declare who they really are.

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  15. Trumppin says:

    we should already know what the outcome will be with DACA since SCOTUS already ruled Obama executive action on DAPA as unconstitutional .. but we also know from what he has said
    about obama unconstitutional executive actions/orders/mandates – The Big Ugly is Coming!

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  16. Founding Fathers Fan says:

    If Obama lets them all live at his house, I won’t object.

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  17. Delilah says:

    Here’s something else you need to keep in mind….

    By eliminating these Obama over-reaches and by Trump’s failure to continue pushing the idea of DACA/DAPA, it forces the immigration issue right back into the laps of Congress…

    Oh, my. Somebody get the popcorn, because I think the Freedom Caucus just got really, really powerful…..

    That’s why Ryan is begging Trump.

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  18. Mia C says:

    We need the war so I guess bring it on. But what do we do when the RINO’s try to undo a fair election with the phony Russia probe? To keep their amnesty, no border, corrupt spending and bad trade deals they’d gladly undo an election.
    –If our elections don’t even work anymore, we’d have no choice but real revolution.

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  19. Bill says:

    As always, a superb piece — written so even politicians and the media can understand that we, the electorate, see through their veil and will no longer accept their ‘crap’. One exception to your last sentence (‘President Trump will, yet again, be one man against an entire corrupt political apparatus’). He ain’t alone, my friend.

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  20. WeThePeople2016 says:

    Trump lured out the usual suspects in supporting DACA. Ryan is now on record as supporting it. If he had plans of running against Trump in 2020, Trump now will draw attention to what Ryan said. Same with Zuckerberg who came out for it again this week. They can’t run or hide from it now.

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  21. WeThePeople2016 says:

    Another thing, if you think We The People are not angry, you need to watch this short interview on Fox & Friends this morning. Oh yea, he basically said the polls on Trump’s approval rating are bs. Take that FOX.

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  22. Delilah says:

    Right now is when we need to start taking on the discussion of jus loci versus jus sanguinis.

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  23. Bonitabaycane says:

    It is outrageous that Private Lyin’ jumps at the opportunity to benefit illegal immigrants while ignoring the welfare of American citizens on so many issues. The Speaker of Mexico is a traitorous rat.

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  24. youme says:

    I can only imagine how many fraudulent documents were submitted with DACA applications

    Proof of date of birth: School I.D. with photo

    Proof: Were living in the U.S. on June 15, 2012. AND Continually lived in the U.S. since June 15, 2007: Postmarked letter/ money order receipts

    Proof: Graduated from high school or have your GED OR Are currently enrolled in school (Adult school, ESL,vocational school, elementary school, middle school, or high school, etc.): class schedule

    https://www.ilrc.org/sites/default/files/documents/what_documents_will_i_need_daca_english_0.pdf

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  25. andyocoregon says:

    Until local, state and federal law enforcement agencies get serious about punishing illegal aliens who have been previously deported, we will continue to have crime problems such as this guy. How many times have we heard a violent criminal had been previously deported, only to come back and victimize more citizens?

    http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2017/09/portland_sex_attack_suspects_1.html

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  26. andyocoregon says:

    It should be obvious to all Americans that most liberals want Open Borders.

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    • Judith says:

      So do most republicans. Together they are the Uniparty seals, barking for their treats from the Global Elite. None, I repeat, none of them are for President Trump and his MAGA agenda.

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      • andyocoregon says:

        I was referring to liberal citizens, not politicians. You’re right that many republican politicians are in favor of open borders, but not nearly as many as democrat pols. And I think most republican citizens do not want open borders. That’s why we elected President Trump.

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  27. Paco Loco says:

    All of the central banks in the world (who create fiat money out of thin air), have been made obsolete by crypto currencies like Bit Coin and blockchain trading. Behind all of the political smoke and mirrors about DACA, Hurricane Harvey, the North Korean nuclear threat, etc., lies the greatest revolution in history, the creation of a secure way to exchange currency without the need for banks and debt financing. It’s a huge threat to the establishment who will try and stop it.

    The entire US economy has been built on the debt financing model (Federal Reserve Bank) which is doomed to catastrophic failure. At some point there will be a “Where’s the Beef?” moment and the answer will be there is none. We are on the path to national economic disaster when this debt financing house of cards falls.

    The US Dollar is actually worthless now because the national debt can never be repaid and new money (Ponzi money) to finance the debt is printed up out of thin air making the old currency worthless. The reality is that the Federal government and the Congress are running the biggest Ponzi scheme in history.

    The Trump economic team must already acknowledge this dire path that the Globalists have taken us on. The BigUgly may lead to a currency/banking/debt crisis sooner than later. Let’s hope that the wolverines have got this figured out. Killing the corrupt trillion dollar finance/banking industry will not be easy.

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  28. joshua says:

    my take on DACA is this, having had to try to teach Hispanic kids in our High Schools…..

    If the kids’ parents have not taken the effort and time to learn to speak ENGLISH, and if the kids have not assimilated totally into American Culture rather than Hispanic Group Cultural norms while here in the USA, and if they did not attend school regularly and make good grades….then KICK them ALL OUT….they are NOT a positive benefit for the NATION…

    Forget pita and compassion….the IRS and the STATE TAXING authorities have NONE of that for us that are paying taxes to support these illegals…..so if they did not DO THE WORK….get them out now.

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  29. freddy says:

    I see a lot of comments about send them all back or they will self deport… No they won’t and they will risk their lives not to go back or be deported. It’s not like sending them home to Switzerland or something. Mexico is completely lawless and run by drug cartels. Every little town they demand plaza and extort folks with business down to tortilla vendors. They will kill you and burn your house down no problem…….Mexico has the second greatest murder rate in the WORLD…. Ain’t nobody going back I’m sure I lived there and speak Spanish. A sanctuary city is heaven on earth to them and many lived in palm huts with wells before coming here. A free life with welfare food stamps and section 8 housing…wow..and you have to do is pop out children..New little citizens jackpot babies……No they will not be going home so think about plan B your wasting time on A.

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    • annieoakley says:

      You are correct. One year we had a really cold winter in western Colorado and I mentioned that maybe Mexico would be more appealing to the hundreds that were choking our small rural school district. No way. The worst day in Colorado is still a great deal better than where they were in Mexico.

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    • todayistheday99 says:

      Yes, it is really evil that Obama signed the EO that caused all this heart ache and grief. Maybe the supporters of DACA (there seems to be so many businesses and rich people) can raise money to pay for the legal immigration process (green cards) for some of them? Also, don’t these 800,000 DREAMERs have family in Mexico, which are probably rich from all the money they have been sending them over the years? Plus, how bad is it in mexico compared to white Trump supporters living in corrupt Berkeley and trying to get to class by sneaking past ANTIFA thugs?.

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    • TPW says:

      I know of some who are sending back their money to build homes start business’s etc. If so bad why is 27 billion a year going back….if so bad those remittances would be stolen right out of the hands of those receiving it……lots of questions……most of us hear how bad it is from MSM who are making excuses for the poor illegals.If so bad then why did our companies move to such a crime ridden country….

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  30. 52686 says:

    DACA sends message it is a right to enter illegally into US to better yourself. You already hear people who are illegal say it’s okay to enter US because it’s for work, so there should be no punishment. What it amounts to is many people in the world viewing the US as a global social service responsible for foreign nationals, and not as a country to serve and protect its own citizens.
    It’s amazing how much concern there is for DACA when you look at the US jobless, homeless, homeless vets, and inner city kids… All while the country is 20 Trillion in debt.

    President Trump, please end DACA…and NAFTA

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    • freddy says:

      You have to end welfare cause children are the workaround for any law. Get here illegally and quick find a gal and pump out some kids. It’s all free with medical.. Get all the benefits and no one will deport a family. It;s the most successful ruse ever invented. In time bring grama and gramps and aunts and uncles and a couple kids turn into an army of people. All needy. Yes they are industrious and hard working but tons of crime and stressing all social benefits is beyond what can be sustained………The end result a state goes broke and then left with lots of desperate people. No way this is good social planning………..

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    • Mia C says:

      I could not agree more. Plus, I’m sick of paying for these multinational companies to get slaves that they pay such low wages that they need welfare at my expense.
      –As I wrote below, it’s just a scheme to get the globalists and Chamber of Commerce a pool of slaves while they force US to pay for the slave quarters (EBT cards, Headstart, school lunches, free schooling, Section 8 housing, Obamacare, Obamaphones and on and on).
      –They keep human trafficking alive (slave trade), enjoy the slaves so they can lower wages for all of us, and then force us to pay for the slave quarters.
      –This is the most amoral system. Many similarities between this and 1800’s slavery.

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  31. Sherwood Jones says:

    I have thought this all along. The Republicans and the Democrats are sleeping with each other while pretending to be on different sides of the aisle. That’s why they all hate Donald Trump. He was an outsider and not one of them. And when he turned the light on to show how deceptive both parties were they ran like cockroaches trying to distance themselves from the light that is Donald Trump. He exposed the Republican deception of we will repeal Obamacare. Neither party wants to repeal it but rather expand it. The American Patriot is being played for a fool. Donald Trump is calling them out on it and exposing them. We need to stand behind Donald Trump and start the new party called the American Patriot party. Watch the Republicans and Democrats smile as they lie through their teeth to the American public.

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  32. AmericaFirst says:

    While I completely agree with the majority that DACA is illegal, unconstitutional, and must MUST be ended, I have a “concern” (no, I’m not a troll).

    If President Trump ends DACA CA is ready to sue him, others will join. Will be in the 9th Circus. We may eventually get the correct decision, but not before winding through several courts, and taking years. If President Trump does nothing, lets Texas and other states sue, THEY will pick the venue.

    Wouldn’t the venue chosen by the American States be better than letting CA dictate where it is decided first? Or am I missing something?

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    • nyc0009 says:

      Yes you might be missing one important thing: politics. He gave his word he would end it. It must happen that way, let the chips fall where they may. And I do agree with you, it would be much better to have the states fight this. But he HAS to end the program. There is no arguing this. And he WILL. He should give the DACA kids 10 years with no crimes, and they get a green card. But if they get a DUI or commit ANY aggravated misdemeanor crime(predefined) they receive NO WAIVER for this crime and are deported. More likely than not, they will marry a USC and will receive citizenship anyway. No path of citizenship is needed, trust me they will find it on their own.

      Now in the meantime, there might be an injunction or two from a liberal fed judge. That is what they did to his refugee ban. But at he least he banned them. Which kept to his word. And the Supremes will find the DACA program unconstitutional. I’m good with that.

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  33. joanfoster says:

    Outside of the EU idiots, we are the only country in the world importing poverty, disease and crime.

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  34. 52686 says:

    One thing I wanted to add about the “g” word, Guilt.
    You can guilt yourself out of existence. Literally there are billions of people around the world to feel guilty about. The US has to put itself first and do the best it can for its own citizens so to set an example for the rest of the world, and then perhaps in a better position to help others.
    I hope the DACA decision will not be one based on the pressure of guilt. Been there done that with forgiving millions with various forms of amnesty. It is never enough.

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    • Bill in Lexington,NC says:

      I feel guilty that I can’t offer a better future to my natural born citizen grandchildren (8th generation NB Americans) because the job market they will try to make their living in will be flooded with people from other nations, here illegally.

      That’s MY guilt.

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  35. zephyrbreeze says:

    It’s the Big Reveal, of the Big Betrayal.

    It’s taken people quite a long time to ACCEPT the REALITY that we have been betrayed by our political leaders who WE hired. This is about us, and our lack of motivation to hold people accountable, long before now, and just keep accepting their lies and fake promises.

    We were played. Just like a betrayed spouse is not always grateful to the bearer of bad tidings informing her of the misdeeds of her spouse, many people will NOT be grateful to Donald Trump for the exposure of the hideous Portrait of Dorian Grey.

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  36. Mia C says:

    Let’s remind ourselves of the history of DACA. It was all a Rove scheme to elect Jeb Bush and get backdoor amnesty for the entire families via the kids. If the kid is a legal citizen collecting welfare and free schooling, what do you do with their parents? Oh right, they need to be here to care for their new little citizen (with welfare and benefits, free housing too).
    –Remember how it began? Rove polled it as the easiest way to get backdoor amnesty, then had Marco Rubio as the face selling it every single night on FOX news, especially Sean Hannity. “These are innocent dreamers, brought here through no fault of their own.” That was the phrase he used over and over.
    –The plan was Republicans would push backdoor amnesty through, get cheap labor subsidized by hard working tax payer’s footing the bill for all the benefits (and living with the high crime) while Hispanic voters would theoretically go to the next Bush in the following election.
    –THEN OBAMA ONE-UPPED THESE DUPLICITOUS RINO’S, PUSHED FORWARD HIS ILLEGAL DACA EXECUTIVE ORDER AND THE RINOS COULDN’T OPPOSE IT SINCE IT’S WHAT THEY WERE SELLING BEFORE HIM.
    –So DACA is still a Republican scheme for backdoor amnesty to get the Chamber of Commerce and mega-national slugs their cheap labor at American expense.
    –The globalists get their slaves. We pay for the slave quarters (Section 8 housing, EBT cards, Obamaphones, free schooling for life, Obamacare) and enjoy the lower wages of our own and high crime to boot.

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    • jmclever says:

      This argument has been going on all the way back to Regan. The Congress reneged on their promise (SHOCKED I TELL YA) to secure the border if he gave them a compromise on amnesty first. Trump has been studying the issue since then and has learned the ways of the Uniparty Enemy.

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  37. todayistheday99 says:

    The Chamber of Commerce needs to register with the DACA “letter is support” coalition (below), so we can keep track of all the anti-American globalist open boarder scum in one place.

    http://www.withdreamers.com/

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  38. MAGABeliever says:

    I would like to see President Trump launch the “Dreamer Corps.” He will end DACA but they can apply for the Dreamer Corps and receive the same vetting and training that the Peace Corps volunteers receive. Applicants will demonstrate some skill or business idea that would enable them to lift up the town/city of their place of birth. The government would provide the relocation to this town as well as initial funding to start the projects/business. This program would be funded mainly by redirecting any US government aid funding currently going to their country of birth to these Dreamers. The former DACA members will serve for two years in the Dreamer Corp and then will receive (if they still want it) a US Green card. It should be noted how many US born citizens have volunteered to go around the world to help other countries and their people. The Dreamers should like the idea of being ambassadors for the US and helping to improve the conditions in their country of origin that presumably necessitated their parents breaking US laws in search of a better life. What about the dreamers in those countries that were left behind? Shouldn’t they want those dreamers to also have a better life if they can’t come to the US?

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  39. jdondet says:

    “With the elimination of DACA, the Republicans will strike down funding for the border wall. The Republicans will demand immigration amnesty. ”

    It is happening now even before Trump make his announcement.

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  40. trapper says:

    DACA has to go in its entirety. No deals. No half measures. No backsliding. No compassion at the expense of Americans. There aren’t enough jobs in America to go around for our citizens and probably won’t be for a decade or more (94 million dropped out of the work force divided by ten. You do the math). Their parents caused their problems. American citizens didn’t. So let their parents solve it by taking them home to their native countries. Kill DACA and revoke every amnesty and privilege and priority granted as part of it.

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  41. Troublemaker10 says:

    A little past history on shutting down the government. Not that you cheer for it, but It has brought some good results in the past.

    ———-

    Forget the wall. Here’s why Trump should shut down the government
    https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/24/trump-right-about-government-shutdown-but-not-for-wall-commentary.html?recirc=taboolainternal

    Excerpt:

    But the key lesson to remember is that President Trump was essentially the sledge hammer the voters in the general election sent to Washington to shake things up. And that was after GOP voters chose him to smash up the Republican establishment in the primaries.

    McConnell and Ryan are still responding to that Trump sledgehammer with an insistence on the status quo.

    One look at the Trump rallies during the election and even nine months later should tell everyone that a big chunk of the nation’s voters aren’t going to wilt from a temporary shutdown or a debt downgrade. But for Ryan, McConnell and so many other establishment figures in Washington, it’s as if they have simply refused to read the election results.

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  42. kyrissaean says:

    i notice that dems bribe illegals/public unions one sided prior to raising more taxes. this is triple negatives that stacks since even if some illegals start contribute, most dems continue this repeat and never remove earlier burdens toss on citizens like the unfair bribing public unions with pension increase one sided.

    daca needs to die along with any future unlimited illegals migration policy. only keep best of illegals/have pro illegals deserve pension cut.

    Kennedy lied about 1 time amnesty, Regan trick too about amnesty in exchange border wall, reid/bill/Hillary/schumer/McCain puppets/sellouts for foreign interests that is bad for USA. notice how laraza don’t mind Mexico has strict migration,but love letting USA get exploited so Mexico never improve only good outsource.

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  43. StuckInBlue says:

    Let’s wait and see what Hurricane Irma is going to do before getting too far of ourselves.

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  44. jmclever says:

    I am wondering if part of the Big Ugly will involve the criminal indictments We the People have been hankering for? More than just revealing their lack of commitment to the promises they made to their constituency, the corruption is likely the same in both Wings of the Uniparty. I am wondering if Trump is waiting for just the right time to give the signal to AG Sessions. In a slow draining swamp, the plug is pulled long before they notice the water level receding. Sessions may have some things ready and waiting.

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  45. Bob says:

    For those that argue for allowing the “dreamers” to stay because they were brought here as children, I offer this thought. Suppose a couple, with young children, illegally entered our country and then robbed a bank. The children waited in the car, as their illegal alien parents told them to do. Later, the illegal alien parents are arrested, charged, prosecuted, convicted and sentenced to a prison term of the appropriate length. Would I argue in favor of imprisoning the children? No. Would I argue in favor of giving the children whatever portion of the proceeds of the bank robbery committed by their parents remained? Hell no. In the same way, I do not argue in favor of granting legal residency for the children of the illegal alien bank robbers, regardless of how long they had been here illegally. Their parents stole that residency by illegally crossing our sovereign border. That residency is the product of the illegal entry that the illegal alien parents accomplished and is of the same nature as the money they stole from the bank. We should no more allow the illegal entry to enrich the children than we should allow the bank robbery to enrich the children. Deport these children of the illegal alien parents, along with their parents, including any additional children that have been born to that couple, here illegally. It’s our country, no one should be allowed to come here illegally and steal anything from the citizens of the USA………and then bequeath the ill gotten gains to their children.

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