Pakistan Attempts To Avoid Ownership of Taliban and Extremism in Afghanistan…

Being on the leading edge of history as it unfolds is a great deal of fun.  Everything is proceeding according to plan.  This is The Trump Doctrine playing out on the geopolitical stage and we all have references to smile about. Swimmingly.

Remember, when President Trump gave truthful, and rightful, ownership of the Muslim Brotherhood’s extremism to the Arab Gulf States? Their first response was to refute the position. Quickly they accepted reality; and now the GCC, led by Saudi Arabia, is confronting MB’s enabler, Qatar.

Remember, when President Trump gave truthful, and rightful, ownership of North Korea’s nuclear ambitions to China? The first response was Beijing refuting the position. Eventually they accepted reality; that process is ongoing.

On Monday President Trump gave truthful ownership of the Taliban to Pakistan. Well:

KARACHI, Pakistan (Reuters) – Pakistan has rejected U.S. criticism of its efforts to fight terrorism, saying it should not be made a scapegoat for the failure of the U.S. military to win the war in Afghanistan.

U.S. President Donald Trump unveiled his policy for Afghanistan on Monday, stepping up the military campaign against Taliban insurgents and singling out Pakistan for harboring them.

U.S. officials later warned that aid to Pakistan might be cut and Washington might downgrade nuclear-armed Pakistan’s status as a major non-NATO ally, in order to pressure it to do more to help bring about an end to America’s longest-running war.

Pakistan’s powerful military chief, General Qamar Javed Bajwa, met U.S. Ambassador David Hale on Wednesday and told him Pakistan was actively working for peace in Afghanistan.

“We have done a lot … and shall keep on doing our best, not to appease anyone but in line with our national interest and national policy,” Bajwa was quoted in an army press statement as telling Hale. (read more)

Earlier we shared how to spot if The Trump Doctrine was being deployed.

So what can we anticipate as next steps?  Well, if the familiar pattern repeats:

  • Look for Pakistan to attempt to avoid ownership. √
  • Look for President Trump and Secretary Tillerson to keep pulling Pakistan into each discussion point when referencing Afghanistan. √
  • Look for President Trump tweets aimed at creating and affirming the U.S. expectations of Pakistan.  Each time this happens the ownership gets stronger.
  • Look for our diplomatic team to talk about Pakistan helping to solve the problem.  √
  • Look for any affirming U.S. signals of warmth and friendship toward India.

These will all be indications of the ongoing strategy.

Chemical weapons stopped in Syria.  Financing of the Muslim Brotherhood stopped in Qatar.  Nuclear threats stopped from North Korea.  And now getting the Taliban up to the table of negotiations within Afghanistan…

There’s no downside to Pakistan being directly linked to Afghanistan/Taliban, simply  because Pakistan is directly linked to Afghanistan/Taliban.  Additionally, inherent in the Trump Doctrine of economics and trade used to secure national security objectives, there are going to be ‘winners’ and ‘losers’; ‘allies’ and ‘adversaries’.

In the BIG geopolitical picture people get nervous because Pakistan has nuclear weapons. Fair enough.  However, Pakistan’s #1 economic ally is China.  China has massive investments in Pakistan.  China is attached to Pakistan.  Both China and Pakistan have nuclear weapons.  Dealing with China and Pakistan is congruent.

Meanwhile, India has nuclear weapons.  Afghanistan’s #1 economic ally is India.  India has massive investments in Afghanistan.  India is attached to Afghanistan.  India has nuclear weapons.  President Trump is positioning India as a favored nation to the United States; and Trump is also accepting China and Pakistan are connected.

India, is massive economic leverage.  India is nice; Pakistan – notsomuch.

See how these strategic geopolitical economic relationships are lining up?

 

 

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158 Responses to Pakistan Attempts To Avoid Ownership of Taliban and Extremism in Afghanistan…

  1. The Boss says:

    This predicted response did not take long. I am impressed. And I sleep well at night.

    Liked by 14 people

  2. GumboPot says:

    This seems related and pretty important:
    India planning to send 15,000 troops to Afghanistan
    http://pakobserver.net/india-planning-send-15000-troops-afghanistan/

    Liked by 12 people

    • Doug says:

      most assuredly thats related… Id say the most important relationship for the us going forward into the 21st century isnt the UK but our relationship with India and to a smaller extent Vietnam

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      • Ah yes, Pakistan. So helpful in the war on terror. Does everyone realize that they protected and kept safe for many years the Bin Laden family so that our Seal Team 6 could find him in the dead of night and kill him. Yes, they do their best, don’t play sides, don’t appease. And thank you for taking such good care of Bin Laden’s doctor who “snitched” him out. I’m sure that you have taken great care of him as he rots in a jail cell. I can’t think of a country that has done more to help us win the war on terror. Great job.

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      • Jedinovice says:

        Just to agree. I am an expat Brit and the UK is not really worth dealing with anymore. It’s a socialist basket case and fast become Islamist and there is NO WILL to change the trajectory.

        The East is the Future. That’s why I am in the East.

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  3. annieoakley says:

    Why is the US giving any aid to Pakistan? Borrowing from China to pay Pakistan? Both countries have nuclear weapons. China should give aid to NK and Pakistan. Leave the US out of the loop.

    Liked by 7 people

    • coltlending says:

      I suspect because the the direction the money flows.

      China and U.S. Corporations generate huge profits by virtue of selling to the U.S. consumers.

      China and those U.S. Corporations make massive contributions to the Democrat and Republican members of the UniParty. OPEC, Mexico and Canada are also players in that dynamic, but not as significantly. Well, perhaps the OPEC nations might be.

      PDJT is shining a light on how much the U.S. Corporations and Congressmen have been shorting the American people, the people who make it all possible for them to sell our purchasing power.

      PDJT is opening up the market to more players, to make a better deal for us.

      The best deal is if we make most of what we need ourselves.

      The Old Guard who had a lock on exclusively brokering sales on Boardwalk and Park Place are crapping their pants.

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    • TheLastDemocrat says:

      Nice shot, Annie. I will take a shot at this. You and I get less expensive garments. The congressmen become super-wealthy, and cement global power with other oligarchs. The shadow government holds yet another revenue stream and source for blackmail material.

      If you want your inexpensive garments, you can keep your less expensive garments.

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      • L. says:

        Yes keep the cheap, poor quality garments. We can do without! I don’t mind getting out the sewing machine. If we want quality that may be what it comes down to anyway. This is a paradigm shift in thinking but well worth considering.

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        • Will Janoschka says:

          “I don’t mind getting out the sewing machine.”
          Treadle powered or electric? How about Solar? Li-ion batteries for sewing at night extra. 🙂

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    • Jenny R. says:

      Some of this has to do with India’s foreign relations during the Cold War. Pakistan was courted as a counter weight at that time.

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  4. Laura says:

    So the million dollar question is this: Is Trump working this same strategy on Congress?

    Liked by 8 people

    • jmclever says:

      That is an interesting question. He did lay the blame for the current situation on Congress in his AZ rally last night. Where is the economic leverage in this scenario? The only thing being bought and sold, i.e., the only “market” is the votes of US congress people. Wasn’t it fun to count how many times President said, “One vote!!!”

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    • Doug says:

      id like to think hes starting to… but ultimately what he needs is for coporate america to longer fight him because the paradigm has shifted… one of Bannons first targets should be tom donohue and the coc

      Liked by 5 people

      • Corporate America will stop fighting when they no longer have any money at stake or the money they’re investing depends on the success of PDJT. Otherwise, they will fight. There’s trillions at stake.

        Liked by 2 people

      • Alison says:

        That has always been my question – what is the tipping point for our ‘global’ production corporations to bring production back to our shores.

        One key will be whether the economic leverage on China is enough that their low wages no longer are a primary factor in USA companies outsourcing.

        Another key is tax reform & whether USA companies are incented to repatriate their $$.

        It is all very complicated & inter-connected.

        Annie Oakley’s question is insightful & provocative. One we will never hear a ‘journalist’ or ‘pundit’ ask!

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        • Charlie says:

          Pizzagate! Should this ever come to light Globalist will tip!

          Liked by 1 person

        • PNWLifer says:

          The Fair Tax would be the ultimate tipping point as we’d be the greatest corporate tax haven in the world. However, that requires Congress giving up the power to use the tax code to reward and punish. My ultimate hope is for Trump to drain the swamp enough to then go to the American people and say “You can see all we have accomplished to MAGA. You have seen how hard its been and how so many people in Congress were corrupt and were working against our beautiful country and you , its great citizens. You want to seal this deal? You want to keep America great for your children, grandchildren and generations to come? Then we need to take away the ability of future Congress’s ability to use the tax code to reward and punish. It’s call the Fair Tax. It’s so great. It’s beautiful in its simplicity. Really beautiful. Let me tell you about it…”

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      • Will Janoschka says:

        “what he needs is for coporate america to longer fight him because the paradigm has shifted… one of Bannons first targets should be tom donohue and the coc”
        I agree the Corporations and Banksters seem to only support\fund those that wish destruction of said corporations. Perhaps one day the corporations will realize that the best corporate investment is their loyal employees. Pay them well enough to be able to afford what America produces, not the cheep shat!

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      • Benson II says:

        I’m probably totally wrong and off base but I have a very uneasy feeling about Bannon. The trust I once had in him which was never as over the top as some is wavering until I see he’s totally in the Trump camp. My vote for Trump was never based on the fact he had Bannon on his team. There was never even one person he chose to have on his team that was some deciding factor for me. I hope I’m wrong and Bannon proves to be a valuable asset, we’ll see.

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    • The Boss says:

      He will when he lets the government shut down because they’re unable to agree on a budget. For an added treat, Trump will rescind the obamacare subsidy for congressional staffers.

      Liked by 2 people

      • Will Janoschka says:

        “For an added treat, Trump will rescind the obamacare subsidy for congressional staffers.”
        That is good! As the USA CEO cannot he also demand that part of the pension for under performing government employees, (congress and their huge staff) be used to pay off the national debt? Think of the children!

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  5. MIKE says:

    The brilliance of our leaders’ strategy is blinding. He’s showing and telling the world leaders everyone can win, if America wins. Stunningly simplistic. Some (Al-Sisi, I.e.), already get it.

    Liked by 11 people

    • James says:

      Mike, I’m not so sure. I don’t understand why you would give ownership of the Taliban and extremism to Pakistan in a speech and then have Pakistan come out the next day and say they rejected it.

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  6. kinthenorthwest says:

    Correct me if I am wrong on either point..
    Bin Laden found in Pakistan and been there for years. hmmmm Wonder why Bin Laden was not just turned over to America years before. Why did our SEALS have to sneak in to kill Bin Laden
    Many of the anti American rebels in Afghanistan use the Pakistani border and country as a hide out when things get to hot and heavy in Afghanistan.Hmm why does Pakistan let the rebels use their country as a hideout. I have seen reports on this in several news articles.

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    • Beenthere says:

      Follow the money—-> Only way Bin Laden could have stayed in Pakistan for that long period of time is to pay of the military which in fact he did. And the rebels are paying them off too.

      3rd world countries are 3rd world countries because of the massive amounts of bribes & extortion. Very little respect for reasonable laws.

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    • TrumpsterinPa says:

      Yep and the real mastermind of AQ is the Egypt Dr… Ayman Al-Zawahri and he has not been brought to justice. I bet he is in Pakistan.

      Liked by 4 people

    • WSB says:

      Many people believe the Bin Laden raid was for show. I never believed it. Now, I am not so sure.

      Liked by 1 person

      • kinthenorthwest says:

        I still wonder if Bin Laden was like a sacrificial lamb for Obama’s re-election. H3LL Bin Laden was dying anyway, and then where the H3LL is his body.

        Liked by 1 person

      • LafnH2O says:

        I served onboard the USS Carl Vinson.
        Still had connections when bl happened.
        At sea burial?
        No memorial?
        Bl’z son reminding us over and over bout his dead daddy?
        No DNA?
        No proof of death?
        Just happened to be shot in the face a couple/few times?
        No-one allowed near the “body” unless cleared by o?
        US election coming up!!
        Why look for a dead man……

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        • Trumpmendous says:

          Exactly. Obama was more than willing to take credit for his death. If he really got him, why not prove it?

          Liked by 1 person

        • WSB says:

          Thank you for your service!

          Are you implying BL is not dead or that the supposed raid was faked for Obama to take credit?

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          • LafnH2O says:

            TY, WSB

            I do not know, for a fact, if bl is alive NOW or not!!

            Because I do not wish to betray or entangle others with my answer…. I will say this….

            Why wasn’t bl returned home to his family?

            Why didn’t the family insist!!

            A very wealthy and “influential” family!!

            Burial at sea… some might say… is in violation of sharia law!!!!

            Why no fuss from the family?

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            • WSB says:

              I always wondered but assumed that our forces did not want a martyr’s grave.

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              • LafnH2O says:

                Think about it for a second.
                o was the leader of the free world.
                He could have easily found an outa the way patch of desert. Fin

                From the linked article…

                “Finding a country willing to accept the remains of the world’s most wanted terrorist would have been difficult,” a US official said. “So the US decided to bury him at sea.”

                John Brennan, Barack Obama’s counter-terrorism adviser said: “We are going to do everything we can to make sure that nobody has any basis to try to deny that we got Osama bin Laden.”

                Mohammed al-Qubaisi, Dubai’s grand mufti, said of Bin Laden’s burial: “They can say they buried him at sea, but they cannot say they did it according to Islam. Sea burials are permissible for Muslims in extraordinary circumstances. This is not one of them.”

                Abdul-Sattar al-Janabi, who preaches at Baghdad’s Abu Hanifa mosque, said: “What was done by the Americans is forbidden by Islam and might provoke some Muslims.

                “It is not acceptable and it is almost a crime to throw the body of a Muslim man into the sea. The body of Bin Laden should have been handed over to his family to look for a country to bury him.”

                https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/may/02/sea-burial-osama-bin-laden

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              • LafnH20 says:

                Imo
                A 2fer.
                No-one looking for bl.
                Whether it was him or a doppleganger.

                o gets super cred.

                Curious….
                o was worried someone might desecrate the body.
                After he had his (to believe the narrative) face blown off???

                A martyr???

                No problemo..

                Blow his face off… stick him in a hole facing mecca…
                tell
                no-one.

                The “World” didn’t know where he was anyway…
                Right😉
                What’s Paki gonna say….

                With what we know now..(Uni-party) o didn’t need to do this in the first place.
                Imo, this was to make bl…
                Disappear…
                Front page. Above the fold.
                Poof!!

                And it worked.

                Not to help o.

                If you like your plan…

                Wonder if bl knows the turkey guy??
                Nah, that’s just silly talk.

                o def knows the turkey guy.

                No family fuss!!
                🤔🤔

                Oh well…
                Back to MAGA

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      • Have always smelled something deepsea fishy about it.

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    • Black Irish Rose says:

      Kin–from what I know about AF-PAK border on the Pakistani side from my days as an analyst, it is very similar to the concept of “no-go zones” seen among “refugee” communities in Europe. There are certainly those within the PAK intel, military and other government apparatuses who do want to tackle these areas (aka “the good guys”), but when those jihadis hiding out are extremely well-armed and tipped off by the PAK bad guys, it’s very difficult to do. This is the way it was, at least, in the first 6-7 years of our engagement there; it may have changed since then, as I no longer follow.

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  7. Isn’t this exactly what Sundance said would happen? Happened pretty fast, too.

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    • GumboPot says:

      Sundance might as well check off the affirmation from India bullet point. They are sending in 15,000 troops into Afghanistan to help.

      Liked by 3 people

    • kinthenorthwest says:

      Sundance is good, real good….

      Liked by 2 people

      • Malatrope says:

        Sundance is very good at prediction, and understands human psychology, the forces within a bureaucracy, economics, and politics. What I would like to see more of from him would be suggestions for strategies to win this culture war, which is part and parcel of the attempts by communists to gain control of the world. There needs to be more than “trust Trump” (which I do already).

        C’mon, Sundance! Be part of the action, instead of just an observer!

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        • kinthenorthwest says:

          LOL–Better watch it–Sundance just might start dancing on your comment. LOL

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        • Don’t you think this blog and Sundance’s analyses are part of the action? Not all action is out in the streets and telling people what to think.

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          • Malatrope says:

            I guess it went over peoples’ heads. Sundance predicts events, explains current events, makes incomprehensible events clear. What he does not do is suggest policy or strategy to move forward into the future. An analysis is not a strategy. It may suggest a strategy, but we rarely see that form of brainstorming here. In fairness, one rarely finds that anywhere at all – but a blog with such a clear vision of what is happening now, and what may happen in the future, is the perfect place to form pathways to get to a future we want to find ourselves living in. There are levers than can be pulled, rocks to be tipped. But where are they?

            To help Trump, we must do more than simply admiring his aptitude. What, for instance, can any of us do to get rid of Mitch McConnell? What are the best means for converting a liberal into a rational human being? What can be said to an illegal immigrant to convince him to go back home and try it again legally? How can we apply pressure to get Soros investigated and hopefully deported? What arguments might work on family members who remain stubbornly blind and willfully ignorant? What exactly is it we are talking about when we say things like “the America that was and should be again” – the benefits of those concepts should be crystal clear to the most recalcitrant leftist. How? What are our “talking points”?

            Nobody is saying people should be told what to think, littleflower, but like leading a horse to water, we should be able to put more options in front of them to think about than what runs around in their heads (like “white people bad” and “Christians suck”). Leftism needs to be defeated utterly, or we’re going to suffer the death throes of our beloved Civilization and stumble back into the horrors of feudalism. We need practical, applicable, and powerful ways to accomplish this.

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          • piper567 says:

            Action requires a proper understanding of what you may wish to act against..
            imo sundance fulfills the role of giving us that understanding better than anyone in any media.

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          • piper567 says:

            action requires proper understanding of what you may wish to act against.
            imo, sundance does a better job of helping us understand reality than anyone in the media.

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        • scott467 says:

          “There needs to be more than “trust Trump” (which I do already). C’mon, Sundance! Be part of the action, instead of just an observer!”

          ______________

          Exactly. Put us in the game, coach!

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        • Benson II says:

          Sundance is totally part of the action. There is nothing more important than understanding a situation and using facts to substantiate it. Anyone can pontificate on what should be done or how it should be done I see it daily on every website I visit but none of them understand what’s actually happening behind the scenes or how it was done. Their guesses are usually way off the mark. I don’t come here to see how Sundance would solve problems I come here to see how President Trump is solving problems. I’m not saying I don’t appreciate Sundance’s opinions or what he thinks about things I really do because he has a unique intelligent insight but I appreciate the fact this is not the main context of the site.

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          • Benson II says:

            I always forget I’m using WordPress where you have no control over a comment already made. You can’t edit or delete it and I certainly don’t want to bother Sundance who could do that just because my wording wasn’t exactly what I intended. I’ll just say anything Sundance adds as an opinion, suggestion or answer to a problem is always appreciated and is certainly welcome.

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            • Benson II says:

              We’ll see if the third time is the charm.
              Sundance has the unique ability to scrutinize and assemble facts that help us understand what Trump is doing and why. His opinions have weight because they’ve proven true in the past.
              The end.

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  8. trapper says:

    The Taliban learn their militant Islamism in madrassas in Pakistan. If Pakistan was serious about countering Islamism they would simply shut down the madrassas. They haven’t, so we know they are liars.

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    • Will Janoschka says:

      “The Taliban learn their militant Islamism in madrassas in Pakistan.”

      What pure BS from some deep stater war-monger. Who are you calling the Taliban?
      Are you calling the remnants of Al-Qaeda; the militant Sunni Islamist multi-national organization founded in 1988 by Osama bin Laden, the Taliban? Nothing could be further from the truth!! Islam is the official government claimed religion since the last takeover from the 7th to 10th century 265 year war against the Taliiban. The actual Afgan Taliban want nothing from outside but will oppose any and all so called do-gooders that try to invade Afganistan, like the militant USA is still trying!! Can you read no history?

      “If Pakistan was serious about countering Islamism they would simply shut down the madrassas. They haven’t, so we know they are liars.”

      Just why would Pakistan try to counter Islam?

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      • trapper says:

        Go back to your moslem homeland.

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        • Will Janoschka says:

          What pure BS from the same deep state war-monger. Are you calling the remnants of Al-Qaeda; the militant Sunni Islamist multi-national organization founded in 1988 by Osama bin Laden, the Taliban or not? WHY? What have you got except brain-washing
          Just who among the pitifully poor, not some puppet government, in Afghanistan has wanted anything except to be left alone?

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    • Coldeadhands says:

      Taqiyya.

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  9. vanwinkle says:

    Nice to have India on our side when the rockets fly.
    One thing POTUS forgot to mention was the Russian influence in the northern portion of Afghanistan .

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  10. Plato says:

    “told him Pakistan was actively working for peace in Afghanistan”
    With a straight face I presume.
    The Pakistani SIS is corrupted by Islamofascism to its core. They protected and housed Bin Laden.
    A PakistaniArmy purge of their SIS seems to be essential.

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  11. MaineCoon says:

    Impressive. This happened immediately after Sundance predicted it.

    Wonder what foreign location is next on Trump’s fix-it plan?

    Let’s get back to this Mitch thing. MItch is dead weight. Like a ball ‘n chain around PT’s ankle. PT somehow needs to shake loose of MM. Biggest obstacle.

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    • soozword says:

      Is there any other contender for Senate Majority Leader? MM is in there until 2020 and we need someone else in that position before then. If PTrump can continue to weaken MM while championing a better alternative for Leader, then that’s the best we can hope for while waiting for the next election results. MM is never going to change his stripes.

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      • I hate to be a voice of pessimism, but even if there were an opportunity to replace McConnell as the Majority Leader, you’d simply get another MM with a different name, but with the same Uni-party political views. Don’t believe me? Remember back in September, of 2015, when House Speaker John Boehner had his “Pope Epiphany”? So he resigned, and what did we get– Lyin’ Paul Ryan… This still doesn’t stop me from hoping every night, that McConnell has a heart attack or chokes to death. Hey– McCain got brain cancer!

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    • G. Combs says:

      “Wonder what foreign location is next on Trump’s fix-it plan?”

      Californicate??

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  12. The Renegade says:

    While the Leftist Media (not MSM, let’s change the acronym, please, to LM) is consumed with their vitriol for the President, and you and me; and, while loser punks roam America’s city streets against freedom of speech wit heir bottles of urine and pink hair, President Donald J. Trump lights our enemies up with serious 21st Century Power and gets them all in line. Or else. These malcontents aren’t privy to seeing an adult Man run the Presidency. It is anathema to them, an enigma. The uniparty can’t roll Trump!

    Isn’t it lovely! Brilliant, natural American, not a politician. I love him as much as Reagan, maybe more. Reagan tore down the wall; Trump tears down the media and rubs their noses in their own disgrace. God, thank you. Because of Your love, Lord, we’re not down-n-out. What a Leader you permitted to Lead.

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  13. backseatdog says:

    They are all con artist to begin with. The demorats give these countries money and arms for war. Looks to me we are going to give our tax dollars to those same countries money for peace. Once they have peace do we get to keep our tax money or do will still have to baby sit them. Do they then start another war to con us again?

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  14. India will NOT send 15k troops to fight for Afg because the local opposition party will term it as anti-Mooslem activity. India has more than 250m mooselm population which is second largest in the world. Unless POTUS Trump work thru UN, I doubt this will happen.
    The Pak army is a lapdog of their security agency ISI. CIA and ISI are colonial cousins and unless Mike Pampeo rained in already and removed all the deep ***t people, its going be challenging for ISI to behave differently. Finally, Chicom is already stepped up their support for their buddies Pak
    https://www.dawn.com/news/1353214

    Having studied that region, unless there is a strong push from POTUS, that region is hopeless. Let us hope for the best.

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    • TheLastDemocrat says:

      iam: Pah Kee Stahn was carved out of India and given to the Moslems in order to appease the Moslems of India, right?

      Didn’t that solve the the problem of disgruntled Moslems in India?

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      • +TheLastDemocrat, yes, the Brits carved out a section of India and created a monster Pak, But mooslems by having more than 3 wives and 50 children expanded their physical number in India and in some pockets its causing them issues. ( This is going to be the case very soon in Europe and unchecked admittance to our country will lead to their dominance in the next 20 to 30 years).
        Couple of other reasons why India may not send their troops to Afg (a) Chicom are fighting illegally with Indians for a section of their eastern border (b) once US puts pressure, Pak will deflect and realign their fellow terror buddies to India’s north western region Kashmir; in those circumstances Indians will need their military to manage these situations. However, if we maneuver properly we can checkmate both Pak and Chicom’s one road one belt & Maritime Silk Road policy thru India.

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    • czarowniczy says:

      A few years back I posted a puece about an event that the MSM mostly ignored. It started with Israel buying some Dolphin submarines from Germany, top knotch diesel subs. They were regular subs except that one torpedo tube was too large to house standard torpedoes, but if Israel by any chance had managed to convert one of their cruise missiles into a SLBM it would be the right size.
      Wait, you might say, why go to all that trouble for a SLBM with a hi-explosive warhead? Why indeed? But what if the Israelis would have created a nuke small enough to fit in its nose cone? Say a selectable yield fission device like our old M-388 warhead?
      Then lo and behold the Indians release a notice to mariners that a certain portion of the Indian Ocean under Indian control will be off limits as an Israeli sub will be conducting training missile launches. Oh my!
      So who’d have a bigger worry about Paki nukes than India and Israel? Might there be an unstated defense agreement between them that were Pakistan to seem to be losing grip on its nukes that they’d act? That also goves the Paki government something to think about.
      As for the Chinese they’re hedging their bets, they have heavy natural resource business agreements in place in Afghanistan and are finalizing a death grip on just about all of India’s water supplies. If it comes to moving on Pakistan or Kashmir or even China (eventually) I don’t think the Moslem population in India will be that much of a problem.

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  15. bulwarker says:

    It’s good to have adults back in charge of our Middle East policy, if anyone can fix this mess its Trump.

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  16. georgiafl says:

    HECK – PAKISTAN has its own extremist atmosphere/practices/horrific terrorist activities.

    Shiites can’t even visit their holy sites or travel through Pakistan without being blown up.
    Health workers can’t help Pakistanis without being blown up.

    In fact, anywhere Islamists spread is a terrorist country.

    Here’s a list of attacks around the world committed by Islamists – note they kill each other as much as they kill ‘infidels’ – http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks/attacks.aspx?Yr=2017

    Islam is a public nuisance – a plague upon the earth!

    31,621 deadly documented terrorist attacks since 9/11/01 – average – 5-6 per day

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  17. TheLastDemocrat says:

    China is about to lean on Pah Kee Stahn. Then, Pah Kee Stahn will have to turn.

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  18. jbrickley says:

    Eye opening as usual. Trump definitely knows how to negotiate and use leverage. It boggles the mind how things have gotten as bad as they have. The USA is the big dog in the arena that doesn’t have to take crap from anyone. We have the biggest GDP, the largest market, the best military, abundant land and resources, and yet we allowed enemies within to tear it down, to weaken us. We are still a super power, it is time we started acting like it. America is not evil and time and time again, Trump has approached the enemies of America and given them the opportunity to do the right thing for the right reasons. Things could be so much better if you just cooperate. Then he starts maneuvering and closing off their other options because it is going to be the easy way or the hard way but you are going to have no choices left if you take the hard way. That’s what he teaches in the Art of the Deal. It’s similar to the Art of War. Business is war and economic war is still war.

    At the rate Trump and his cabinet are moving, it will be curious to see how he handles Iran. Maybe he’s saving the best for last quietly maneuvering pieces on the chess board and letting them watch from the sidelines.

    As much as I enjoy Trump tweaking his domestic enemies, he’s got to stop and just keep moving the ball forward. He doesn’t have to slap them every time. The swamp GOPe are going to get crushed in 2018 and 2020. Mitch is in serious trouble in KY. John McCain is going to have to drop out and deal with his brain cancer (no joke, he’s got maybe a year or less). Ryan is in deep trouble as well. The people are mighty pissed that the GOP party is not backing Trump while they are in power. It’s an enormous opportunity for them to dominate the next 50 years politically and they are flushing it down the toilet due to swamp greed and slimy shady deals for personal profit. We really need term limits on Senators and Representatives. No way you should be able to make it a life long career and come out the other side with such personal profit. It’s supposed to be a servant of the people job. I like how most of Trumps picks have made their money already and are sacrificing personally to do the job for the people.

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    • Fe says:

      Dude, P45 is moving the ball forward. No reason why he cannot slap the fake news/Uniparty every step of the way.

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      • Coldeadhands says:

        Yep. I find it curious that people can acknowledge the dimensional awareness of PDJT regarding things like trade or foreign relations then think that domestically or with White House staffing he somehow degenerates into cluelessness. (Or that he somehow ceases to be the head of his family when it comes to their influence on him.) Oh well. These things are complicated.
        I’m of a mind that his domestic enemies require from him just as much posturing as little Kim does.

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      • Charlie says:

        “Fake News” is the enemy within and needs to be destroyed!
        Once destroyed Uni-party will have no safe zones.

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  19. jbrickley says:

    The globalists are starting to see the writing on the wall and they don’t like the message, not one bit. But they too are going to be maneuvered and leveraged and forced to change. No longer are they going to siphon US money overseas and profit off it. They are leeches and ticks feeding on the back of America. They will soon be met with the option to bring big money back to America or risk being hurt financially in a very big way. All their schemes and sneaky tricks are going to dry up with the proper economic leverage exercised internationally. Just wait for it, a big bright spotlight will be making those roaches scatter for cover eventually.

    Even if Trump is unable to accomplish everything, he will have still made an enormous impact. Just tune out all the crazy on TV and online cause none of it matters. There will be no impeachment there will be no Meh Russia scenario, they still have absolutely zero on the Teflon Don…

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  20. Bruce says:

    Trump will cut their goooobers off if he has to in order to protect us.

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  21. BobW462 says:

    Hmmm… the Awans of the congressional IT scandal also have a direct connection with Pakistan. At some point, I expect that DOJ/DOS will seek “close(d) cooperation” from Pakistani officials on that investigation.

    I’m interested to see how this all unwinds.

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  22. Bruce says:

    I think five or ten million Americans should write in to their Congressmen and question the sanity of CNN, Hillary Clinton, and James Clapper.

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  23. czarowniczy says:

    Pakistan can tap dance all it wants but its fingerprints are all over thecTaliban. After the Soviets pulled out of Afghanistan there was a power vacuum, the country was being run by a collection of warlords and the instability was making the Pakistani government and especially the military nervous as hell. They Pakistanis wanted to restore stability so they actively supported the Taliban…there’s that ‘road to hell thing’ coming up.
    To say that the Taliban doesn’t have major support in the Paki government and military is to buy into the lie that State and other segments of the government try to sell. There’s a fine line in Pakistan between the Moslems who support the Paki government and those who’d cross the line to a Taliban style government. These folks have given the Taliban sanctuary since we invaded and they are enough of a force to make the current government nervous. Stay tuned, sports fans.

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    • jeans2nd says:

      Serious question, not trying to be smart aleck – we are supposed to be fighting Al Qaeda in Afghanistan. Theoretically, we are not supposed to be fighting the Taliban, are we? This is one I just cannot square.

      We are supposed to be getting the guys who did 9-11, which is Al Qaeda, not the Taliban. The Taliban is Afghanistan’s prob, imo. But, whaddoikno? Just weary of being the world’s policeman, i guess.

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  24. hawkeye13 says:

    Bin Laden is living happily somewhere. Navy Seals were killed to set an example for anyone that differed from the Obama story.

    Pakistan has been paid to keep them quiet about the dirty deals in previous administrations.

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  25. wolfmoon1776 says:

    Look! Somebody’s JEALOUS!

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  26. jeans2nd says:

    Are you certain re: Taliban? Not trying to be smartarse, serious question. My impression was that the Taliban rejected ISIS.

    28 Jun 2017 ISIS, Aided by Ex-Taliban Groups, Makes Inroads in Northern Afghanistan

    19 June 2017 Pentagon begins arming ‘Taliban’ militia group to fight ISIS in Afghanistan
    “KABUL — Pentagon officials are hopeful new equipment and training will better prepare local militia groups, otherwise known as the “Taliban,” in sustaining the fight against a corrupt regime while simultaneously taking the fight to ISIS in Afghanistan, sources confirmed today.”
    http://www.duffelblog.com/2017/06/taliban-isis-afghanistan/

    18 Jun 2015 Why the Taliban Wants ISIS Out of Afghanistan
    http://thediplomat.com/2015/06/why-the-taliban-wants-isis-out-of-afghanistan/

    12 June 2015 Iran Providing Weapons, Funds To Taliban To Counter ISIS In Afghanistan: Report
    http://www.ibtimes.com/iran-providing-weapons-funds-taliban-counter-isis-afghanistan-report-1963998

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    • scott467 says:

      “19 June 2017 Pentagon begins arming ‘Taliban’ militia group to fight ISIS in Afghanistan”

      ______________

      What could possibly go wrong?

      The ‘Pentagon’ takes our tax dollars and buys full-auto AK47s, probably from Russia (semi-auto Russian AKs are banned from import for American citizens), and gives them to terrorists who helped Bin Laden, who started this whole thing.

      Meanwhile, the same government of which the ‘Pentagon’ is a part, finds a way to deny Americans the right to use a semi-auto AR15 pistol mounted with a SIG arm-brace to your shoulder because, according to the BATF ‘interpretation’ of the 1934 NFA (National Firearms Act… it’s only 83 years old… what could have changed in 83 short years?) claims that holding the semi-auto pistol up to your shoulder turns it into an SBR (short barreled rifle) which is prohibited by the NFA.

      But if you hold the semi-auto pistol in any way EXCEPT up to your shoulder, it’s a pistol, and perfectly legal.

      To refresh: shoot the gun any way besides holding it up to your shoulder, no problem.

      Shoot the gun with the SIG arm-brace held up to your shoulder, and it’s a felony.

      Here’s an idea:

      Why doesn’t the Pentagon give the American TAXPAYERS full-auto AK47s, and turn us loose on the same government that is hell-bent on violating OUR RIGHTS and arming our enemies?

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  27. Yeah, “pah-kee-stahn”.
    Sit down and STFU.

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  28. Joshua2415 says:

    If Pakistan wants to show their commitment maybe they can start by extraditing the Awan family members that fled there to avoid prosecution for selling US national security secrets. That seems easy enough

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  29. scott467 says:

    “Quickly they accepted reality; and now the GCC, led by Saudi Arabia, is confronting MB’s enabler, Qatar.”

    ________________

    Well, they say they are… but what’s a little Taqiyya between you and me (or the GCC and Qatar)?

    Hopefully there is some objective verification in the agreement(s).

    When a people’s belief system literally codifies and promotes lying, even going so far as to break it down into different kinds of acceptable lying (Taqiyya = direct, Kitman = lying by omission, etc.), inherent untrustworthiness is simply a quality of who they are.

    It’s baked in.

    Their prophet told them it was okay to lie, and how to do it, especially to outsiders.

    The wonder of islam reveals itself in new ways every time one is unable to avert his eyes from it.

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  30. jeans2nd says:

    “Look for any affirming U.S. signals of warmth and friendship toward India.”
    Would India already seeing the Trump Doctrine and opting to act quickly do for now?

    “The Trump discontinuity
    His new Afghan strategy could be a game-changer for South Asia. There is an opportunity for India”

    “It is about seizing the opportunity opened up by his new policy to raise India’s profile in Afghanistan”
    “Trump has said something about Pakistan in public that his predecessors were not willing to”

    ‘Trump might be betting that by invoking a larger Indian role in Afghanistan, he might add to the pressures on Pakistan to cooperate with the US.”

    “India must ramp up its economic diplomacy in Afghanistan”
    “Delhi must step up security cooperation with Afghanistan”
    http://indianexpress.com/article/opinion/columns/the-trump-discontinuity-us-president-policy-on-afghanistan-4810529/

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  31. litenmaus says:

    I like to think that the MOAB drop four months ago in the Pakistani’s backyard was not only an attack on the radicals, but a message to the Pakistanis.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-04-15/residents-describe-mother-of-all-bombs-that-hit-afghanistan/8445582

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  32. Tim Cunningham says:

    A question for Sundance: what does the US do if/when China and Pakistan become allies?

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