Economic Diplomacy – China Refuses a Dozen Cargo Ships of North Korean Coal…

During the February 2016 GOP primary debate candidate Trump told the world what he would do in response to continued North Korean missile aggression –SEE HERE–  In January of 2017 President Trump repeated the message –SEE HERE

On April 6th and 7th, last week, President Trump and Chinese President Xi Jinping held a two day summit discussing trade and North Korea.   The United States and China are the two largest economies in the world.  Now see this:

A fleet of North Korean cargo ships is heading home to the port of Nampo, the majority of it fully laden, after China ordered its trading companies to return coal from the isolated country, shipping data shows.

[…]  To curb coal traffic between the two countries, China’s customs department issued an official order on April 7 telling trading companies to return their North Korean coal cargoes, said three trading sources with direct knowledge of the order.

[…]  Shipping data on Thomson Reuters Eikon, a financial information and analytics platform, shows a dozen cargo ships on their way to North Korea’s main west coast port of Nampo, almost all carrying cargoes from China.  (read more)

 

[…] To make up for the shortfall from North Korea, China has ramped up imports from the United States in an unexpected boon for U.S. President Donald Trump, who has declared he wants to revive his country’s struggling coal sector.

Eikon data shows no U.S. coking coal was exported to China between late 2014 and 2016, but shipments soared to over 400,000 tonnes by late February.

This trend was exacerbated after cyclone Debbie knocked out supplies from the world’s top coking coal region in Australia’s state of Queensland, forcing Chinese steel makers to buy even more U.S. cargoes.  (read more)

“Complicated business folks,… Complicated business”…

 

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474 Responses to Economic Diplomacy – China Refuses a Dozen Cargo Ships of North Korean Coal…

  1. freddy says:

    This thread is why I come here to read so many really good posts..Excellent today………..I’m not a great writer..Especially when angry but I sure can read…I read the whole thing….Excellent…

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  2. i'm just sayin'.. says:

    President Trump appealing to China’s President on a pragmatic level to solve NK problem. Xi says Si and turns back coal. China and US with vastly different interests can find mutually beneficial outcomes.
    Meanwhile, the potential for US / China constructive collaboration must be of concern to Putin as he may sense he is getting set up in a pincer move.
    Meanwhile, President Trump moves forward on the domestic agenda, the Supreme Court operates at full strength, Congress is on break, Dems continue to murmur Russia, Russia, Russia and MSM flails in their blind incompetence

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  3. Southern Son says:

    And…the Doubters/NeverTrumpers, don’t See IT.
    MAGA is Multifacited.
    My Opinion of DJT changed 180 degrees, once he Won that First Debate.
    Now I see my dislike of him was entirely superficial.
    I believe, that by the time he is up for Reelection, many more will Support him.
    Although I do not expect Them, to Admit They were Wrong.

    Press ON!, President TRUMP!

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  4. Chuck says:

    Thinking about the timeline of this, The president had to have shiploads of coal ready to be sent to China. How far ahead do you suppose this needed to be planned? Miners had to get back to work, all the transport and shipping had to be arranged, China needed to be prepared to deny NK and accept US shipments. That kind of stuff doesn’t happen in the course of 1 weeks time since Xi was here.

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  5. SPMI says:

    Apparently Chuck it did happen in a week.
    M A G A

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  6. LARS says:

    Who knew the amateur barber college had coal?

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  7. somaspecialist says:

    Im so glad i found the Treehouse…..you and Bill Mitchell are the only ones in the “alternative media” who see the 4d chess move all the other dolts who I thought were “real journalists” are just a bunch of propagandists trying to push their agenda…aka Male Potency formula, Bone broth protein powder, survival food or just a NEW BOOK about why they helped people vote for Trump…..I wish more supporters would read this material….thanks Sundance for being the sane one 👌

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  8. sunnydaze says:

    Brilliant. That’ll sting the Upper Class Cronies in NK- who are the only people there who *ever* see any money, food, benefits, etc. at all.

    And it’ll HELP average American workers.

    Good Job.

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  9. Bob Thoms says:

    Is the strategy to create an environment in NK in which there is regime change; or just keep Kim Jung Un in a box.

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    • asawasa says:

      yes to both. we have been using siege warfare tactics to isolate and eventually collapse that regime since 1953. it was working until Bill Clinton undermined that strategy with his horrible deal in 1994.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agreed_Framework

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      • Bob Thoms says:

        Don’t get me wrong; Clinton probably pro-longed the regime and increased the misery of north Koreans…..but I wouldn’t claim the policy/tactics were working between 1953 and 1994 either.

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        • asawasa says:

          we’ll never know now since the NK got what they wanted and had to pretend to honor their end of the bargain. also remember that China has propped them up and that deal likely relieved some resources China could spend elsewhere such as making themselves the economic power they are today.

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  10. SharonKinDC says:

    With all of the action from PDJT and his admin, my admiration and respect continues to grow every day. One of the most significant differences from the Zero admin, and even the Bush 2, Clinton eras is Trump uses his cabinet and respective agencies IN CONCERT to achieve his goals in a way that I’ve not seen before. Some POTUS’ were better than others, yet none compare with Trump. Under Zero, I had the impression of the economic, diplomatic, and military departments working in an almost independent fashion. At the same time, many real issues were brushed under the carpet, or BS ‘solutions’ promulgated in the media, only to find out later they were a sham. For example, Syrian removal of chemical weapons, or the fiscal nightmare of Ocare kept afloat by ripping off the interest payments to Fannie/Freddie bondholders.

    Wolfmoon’s epic post was not only a wonderful read, it provoked greater thought on my part about just what Trump is achieving and HOW he is doing so. In particular, the close working arrangements between Tillerson, Ross, Mnuchin, and also, McMaster and Mattis. The US has plenty of leverage, yet under 0, it wasn’t used or not used effectively. Not only are these three men stellar choices, brimming with competence unlike any we’ve seen in an administration in ages, but they clearly work in tandem to achieve POTUS’ goals. This reality also underscores the difference between a highly competent executive and the bumbling 0…and even the persuadable Bush, who didn’t think far enough in advance, imo… Bush also, to my thinking, never operated with a clear set of goals, other than a vague ‘compassionate conservatism’. Which as the public discovered, involved many things not particularly ‘conservative’.

    As we’ve all observed, the differences between a skilled CEO and a political type are vast. Our nation is so fortunate that Trump not only ran and won, but that he utilized his legendary recruiting skills to deliver a ‘dream team’ to head his agencies and departments.

    Remember Trump’s theme song, ‘You can’t always get what you want. But you might just find, some times, you get what you need?’ The bottom line is we act based on what we wish reality was, we’ve got to deal with the hand dealt… And it was a really crappy set of cards.

    To refer back to Wolfmoon’s post, Trump is delivering the most OPTIMAL steps to achieve the RESULTS promised on the campaign trail. Better yet, he’s effectively using all of his skilled team members, both for their insights/opinions and to further the objectives by enacting the plan, in concert.

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  11. SharonKinDC says:

    Some more thoughts #1: For those worried about McMaster, it’s a good thing he brought in others, like Haley to the NSC. It helps to foster the same page, unified message concept. Additionally, there seems to be a tendency for some Trump supporters to believe in absolutes re military action. IOW, a surgical, symbolic strike on a Syrian military base equals the onset of an US military invasion, quagmire, and resulting in a Libya redux. Considering Bush 2’s foray into ‘nation building’ and Obama’s Great Libyan FUBAR, perhaps the scars from those foolish endeavors have inflicted a Pavlovian response. I do understand.

    However, to not have sent a message would be to encourage more and worse, growing, bad behavior from any number of State actors, which could very well lead to far larger issues. For example, while I’m sympathetic to Putin’s desire to hang on to Crimea, based on the history of Russia’s original acquisition of that land, he did invade Ukraine via cut outs. I’m even sympathetic to Putin wanting to hang on to his warm water port in Syria. Boris Johnson within the last day acknowledged this reality after the G7 meeting.

    Iran, encouraged by the stupidity of team 0, did the same in Yemen, stirring up and supporting the Houthi’s, like it or not, Yemen has been a Saudi satrapy, and Iran is trying to change that game.

    As much as many people do NOT want any military involvement anywhere, ever, we’ve got to deal with the realities with which 0 has bequeathed Trump. A precise, limited action is far preferable to continued turmoil, mass exodus from those fleeing troubles and the leftists insisting on expansion of our ‘refugee’ program…along with a deeper, larger and more prolonged involvement to fix a ‘problem’ which metastasized.

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  12. SharonKinDC says:

    Some more thoughts #2: For those worried about Kushner, he’s loyal and he’s learning. He also dresses up nice and I understand his demeanor is received well. While he’s known for his organizational prowess, he does not come prepackaged with all wisdom on the geopolitical front, although his own connections and business circles make him better equipped than some who served other Presidents. (Thinking team 0’s hacks)

    Additionally, Trump has made it clear he doesn’t trust electronic communications. Phone or email. He made noises on the trail regarding use of couriers. Clearly, Kusher is a most trusted courier. Far better than sending an electronic message which will be read in Beijing, Moscow and other places in darned near real time…Kushner is Trump’s emissary or envoy. Keeps the communications secure and can be trusted to deliver the message and accurately convey the responses. Yes, his reports back to Trump will likely convey his opinions and impression gained. A seasoned, skilled hand like Trump will weigh them appropriately and include a discounting calculus, too, based upon the parties involved.

    For those who think young Kushner is manipulating Trump…well, I just have to laugh.

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    • truthseekerr says:

      Laugh all you want but Kushner is a democrat. He bought 666 5th Ave. Ivanka was whining about the “gas attack” before Trump. Kushner had Lewandowski fired. May be arguing with Bannon as well. Don’t let the slick suits fool you. Everybody is open to questioning.

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      • Howie says:

        Confucius say… some people are like blisters… they don’t show up until the work is done.

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      • In all aspects except the one to which you are obliquely referring, 666 is the number that comes after 665 and before 667- stop being a superstitious twit, among other things.

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      • Kushner supported bringing in Bannon. Lewandowski was fine for the early months of the campaign. He carried out Trump’s strategy early on. Later on, as Trump gained momentum, the campaign required a national focus. Trump sat Lewandowski down and asked for his ideas on running a national campaign. Corey couldnt give a satisfactory answer, more of the same was his response. Kushner recognized the need to bring in Bannon. Good move. Kushner is the Trump administration’s Nancy Reagan /Mike Deaver. He’s family and isn’t going anywhere. He needs to be checked on policy by Bannon, Miller, Sessions.

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  13. M.A. says:

    President Trump has been preparing, I believe, for at least 8 years to run and become President.

    He already had a plan before he rode down the escalator.

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    • Jersey Mark says:

      I don’t believe that is technically accurate. I do believe that for some time, Trump has been thinking about what is wrong with things here and what needs to be done but actually “preparing to run and become President” I think is something that came to fruition late 2014. Sarah Palin was very instrumental in that decision process talking to him about the “movement” she had been leading and building and how he could become its face and ride it right into the White House. Trump has said many times that Sarah was with him from the very beginning.

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    • Uhhhhhhh he’s been planning for 30 years and tightening up the plan since 2000

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  14. EV22 says:

    Dear Wolfmoon
    Just wanted to let you know what a great post you wrote. It’s one for the ages. MAGA!

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  15. A2 says:

    The hardline CPC Global Times published an editorial, “Is North Korea nuclear crisis reaching a showdown?” (2017/4/12).
    China, as I indicated previously is preparing public opinion for a shift in policy stance towards NK.

    “More and more Chinese support the view that the government should enhance sanctions over Pyongyang’s nuclear activities. If the North makes another provocative move this month, the Chinese society will be willing to see the UNSC adopt severe restrictive measures that have never been seen before, such as restricting oil imports to the North. Pyongyang’s nuclear weapons program is intended for securing the regime, however, it is reaching a tipping point. Pyongyang hopes its gamble will work, but all signs point to the opposite direction.”

    The editorial ends with a warning: “Pyongyang can continue its tough stance, however, for its own security, it should at least halt provocative nuclear and missile activities.

    Pyongyang should avoid making mistakes at this time.”

    ( Note, the President’s recent tweets, “I explained to the president of China that a trade deal with the U.S. will be far better for them if they solve the North Korean problem!” followed by, “North Korea is looking for trouble. If China decides to help, that would be great. If not, we will solve the problem without them!”)

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  16. barton2016 says:

    And if Bush, Rubio, Clinton or any of the other war mongers were elected instead we’d invade and implement a regime change. Way to go Trump!

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  17. TrueNorthSeeker says:

    This is what happens when you send a businessman to Washington. Oh yeah!!
    Go POTUS…MAGA!!
    Two birds with one stone….creating coal miner jobs while putting NK fat boy in checkmate!

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  18. Laura Wesselmann says:

    Trump is a genius. Obama was NOT brilliant.

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  19. Howie says:

    W. Va. Coal is much better than Nork Coal.

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  20. Howie says:

    The President is shipping Nork Jobs to the USA.

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  21. A2 says:

    The weiqi circle is closing in on Kim.

    South Korea and China say they have agreed they will take strong action against North Korea if Pyongyang conducts more nuclear and intercontinental ballistic missile tests. Kim Hong-kyun of Seoul and Wu Dawei from Beijing reported from a joint press conference in South Korea Monday that it is indeed time to take “strong action” against Pyongyang.

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    • youme says:

      and back in November, 2016 ”

      UNITED NATIONS — In an effort to tighten sanctions that largely failed to throttle North Korea’s nuclear program, the United Nations Security Council on Wednesday imposed a cap on coal exports, the country’s chief source of hard currency.

      As with the original set of sanctions, which the Security Council adopted in March, the key to enforcing these new penalties remains in the hands of China, North Korea’s principal patron and coal customer.

      The new restrictions on North Korean coal were relatively easy for Beijing to approve. They serve the purpose of expressing China’s displeasure with Mr. Kim’s agenda, yet they fall short of inflicting crippling pain on North Korea.

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      • youme says:

        American officials conceded tthat there was some “vagueness” in the original measure. The new resolution aims to shave $700 million from North Korea’s coal revenues. The resolution says North Korea can sell no more than 7.5 million metric tons of coal a year, or bring in no more than $400 million in sales, whichever comes first.

        It also requires countries to tell the United Nations how much North Korean coal they are buying and expands the list of banned items for import by North Korea, including luxury goods like bone china worth more than $100 as well as equipment with dual-use purposes.

        The measure also urges countries to allow North Korean diplomatic missions around the world to have only one bank account. That, the United States says, is intended to limit the country’s penchant for using its envoys and embassies to further its nuclear program.

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  22. Owlen Rose says:

    It appears China is really on board with us, they are threatening to bomb North Korea’s Nuclear facilities.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-11/china-threatens-bomb-north-koreas-nuclear-facilities-if-it-crosses-beijings-bottom-l

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    • chbailey says:

      It would be in Chinas’ interests not to let fat boy run wild. (The translators probably meant “red line” or “line in the sand” rather than “bottom line” which is an economic term, but we know what they mean)…Japan should get skin the game and turn back special flights from North Korea sent to Japan especially to pick up orders of fresh Japanese sushi to be flown back to fat boy.

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  23. FL_Guy says:

    What’s interesting to me is that President Trump has met with all these foreign leaders from the git go and has come up with a way to get them to help solve some major world problems that have been ignored. The D-Rats solution to NK, Iran and the ME has been to enable the worst behavior, e.g. letting them have nukes and chemical weapons, and then ignore the problems. President Trump is taking a true leadership position in the world and is getting other world leaders to cooperate to solve these D-Rat created messes that is really a danger to everyone. People don’t seem to realize that in the age of nukes and bio-chemical weapons, no country is safe so what President Trump is working on is making the world safe for EVERYONE! I will never get tired is saying President Trump!

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  24. Quixote says:

    Wow.

    Our coal to help China. A win/win.
    How elegantly simple.

    Trump Train!
    .

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  25. Sean Supsky says:

    These moves are multi-faceted, like light from a prism, going in different directions. There are not errant, nor chaotic, yet travel in a predetermined course. If you change the position of the prism, naturally, you will change the trajectory of the light emitting from the prism.

    While I cannot in any way claim to understand the myriad of courses these interactions are running, I do have a concrete foundation in trusting that things will go as best as they are able. This trust is born from trusting in God and knowing that He has put the world leaders in place and that He put President Trump in place.

    With all of the past actions that have taken place since President Trump took office, the latest being the missile strike, I have remained confident that the course of action was correct for the greater good and for a better outcome in the following times.

    I do not know the mind that comes up with these plans, yet I do see the character of the man, President Trump, and how he has remained the same from yesterday to today. His actions insofar have proven that he takes this job of his seriously, and while there may be odd seeming occurrences, that does not mean that they are, perhaps I have not looked at all possible angles in the situation and the desired outcome.

    Finally, my faith in God has not wavered, nor has my confidence in the one that He has placed into office.

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  26. jmbuck says:

    I will wait and see. I have a feeling that these people are so ego driven that not being in the thick of things and not see it like Sundance did is driving them crazy. I do not mean that in a bad way, to be where in their careers they are they have to be very driven people. They pushed hard for Trump too and are on the outside looking in. They got to be going crazy.

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  27. Sayit2016 says:

    This is what “Leverage” looks like…..well done President Trump….These are exciting times to be alive and witness this. For decades we have been told that the country can not be run like a business therefore only seasoned politicians must be elected—not seasoned business men and women.Trump has turned this meme on it’s head. It’s about damn time. Also, I find it interesting that that President has been working non-stop since the campaign started in earnest in June 2016 and has not slowed down, and senators/reps are demanding things are not happening fast enough…amazing since they were content to be gridlocked for decades….interesting times people…interesting times…

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    • Sean Supsky says:

      Sayit2016 says:
      senators/reps are demanding things are not happening fast enough…amazing since they were content to be gridlocked for decades….interesting times people…interesting times…

      Reply:
      They are only speaking thus because as you stated, they are being shown for the frauds that they are. Their gridlock was nothing more than a show while they collected graft from honest Americans and advanced their plan of a NWO.

      I am sure that there have been some good government officials who tried to do the right thing, but were always shot down and silenced.

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  28. TreeperInTraining says:

    Different topic, same country….

    China threatens to take out North Korea’s nuke sites of a “line” is crossed.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-11/china-threatens-bomb-north-koreas-nuclear-facilities-if-it-crosses-beijings-bottom-l

    My favorite line from the article:

    China also noted that “nuclear weapons is DPRK’s trump card for its defiance of China and the United States. Once this card is lost, it will become obedient immediately.”

    This, as I see it, is an epic win.

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