Obama’s Immigration Executive Order Is More Than Prosecutorial Discretion…

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Riddled throughout President Obama’s Executive Order speech last night was something more than prosecutorial discretion and/or non-deportation.  Extensively disbursed throughout the proposal was a claim of lawful “work/employment status”.

[…]  Now here’s the thing: we expect people who live in this country to play by the rules.  We expect that those who cut the line will not be unfairly rewarded.  So we’re going to offer the following deal:  If you’ve been in America for more than five years; if you have children who are American citizens or legal residents; if you register, pass a criminal background check, and you’re willing to pay your fair share of taxes – you’ll be able to apply to stay in this country temporarily, without fear of deportation.  You can come out of the shadows and get right with the law.

Later in the speech Obama condescendingly referenced the way he views the work of illegal aliens:

…[…] Are we a nation that tolerates the hypocrisy of a system where workers who pick our fruit and make our beds never have a chance to get right with the law?

Because in Obama’s America – Latino’s can only be fruit pickers, yard workers and housemaids right?  I digress.

Another employment reference follows moments later:

…[…] Over the past few years, I have seen the determination of immigrant fathers who worked two or three jobs, without taking a dime from the government, and at risk at any moment of losing it all, just to build a better life for their kids.

Well, you get the picture… the speech is filled with employment references.

Now, here’s the aspect worth thinking about.

If all Obama is doing is “not deporting” people, ergo he’s using his executive authority of prosecutorial discretion, and that’s the claim of those who say this is constitutional; well, how or what part of ‘non-deportation’ includes granting “work/employment authorization”?

Work and Employment eligibility, and the qualifications for allowable status of permission therein, is federal law.   If Obama is claiming he can provide legal work authorization he is executing a new law.  Such a decree clearly violates the separation of powers within the constitution.

If not deporting illegal aliens is constitutionally allowable under the auspices of executive branch prosecutorial discretion, you might win the argument.

However, if President Obama thinks he can arbitrarily grant a new status of legal employment eligibility, he’s grossly mistaken.  That would be making new employment law from the executive branch.

If, he’s not bullshitting in his speech, and if that construct is actually in the executive order he plans on signing, any court challenge raised in that regard he would most certainly lose.

So what gives?

Final Thoughts:

  • If the border is secure, how did the illegals get in?
  • We already have a “pathway to citizenship”, people use the established legal process for immigration every year.
  • We don’t have a “broken immigration system”, we have a “lack of enforcement” of the current immigration system in place.

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140 Responses to Obama’s Immigration Executive Order Is More Than Prosecutorial Discretion…

  1. barbi says:

    The only real way to stop a POTUS who does this is impeachment.

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    • Roger says:

      Aahahahaha! Impeachment? Who will actually lead that?

      Darrell Issa? The guy who was using the IRS to attack Tea Party groups on behalf of establishment Republicans….and now heads up the IRS investigation. He’s too busy insider trading to notice anything else.

      Ted Cruz? Who wants the 2016 Latino vote so badly he’ll compromise on literally every single issue just to get elected. Cruz being one of the loudest mouthed no-action politicians in history. He raises money on issues and then does NOTHING with his actions. Keep throwing money at him. One day he’ll actually do something useful.

      Rand Paul? Who flip-flops on every single issue and is becoming more and more of a coward in the media with his answers. He’s literally useless now until the final vote is counted for 2016. He’s in full campaigning mode. More ready to appear on Real Time with Bill Maher than actually go after Obama.

      John McCain? Who is busy arming terrorists and helping the military smuggle arms to our enemies in the name of warmongering.

      John Boehner? Mitch McConnell? Who is actually going to impeach Obama?

      No one.

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      • teajr says:

        I literally think that “they” got to Rand Paul. He’s changed is tune so drastically, that its not out-of-the question that the political mafia has the goods on him.

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      • smarty says:

        Depressing stuff. Ted Cruz I still have some hope will lead along with Sessions. But heh maybe America is toast and it is time to just turn away from the scene of the murder and live your life. We can’t fix it.

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      • Col.(R)Ken says:

        Agree with your comments on some of the polls named. What I don’t agree is comments about turning always, or giving up. We have never turned away, shirked our duty as Americans. It’s up to you and I to change this, so put you wine glass down, drop the cheese knife, get off the bench, get inti the game!

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        • Sentient says:

          I could call my congressman, Chief Keef Ellison – who wins every election by 50 points – and ask him to bring charges of impeachment. I could also hold my breath until I pass out.

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        • 7delta says:

          Yep, getting people to give up is the goal of the Borg mentality: Resistance is futile.

          Plus, it’s so Alinsky, Cloward and Piven, etc. Overwhelm everyone on so many fronts it looks hopeless. Alinksy, Lucifer’s biggest fan, also said that if you, the lawless activist, get caught and tossed out on your ear, you just explain to your peeps that you had to do it…for them…because those other people are evil and don’t want you to have anything. They want to control everything, including you, so he sacrificed himself in order to save you. Sounds disturbingly familiar doesn’t it? Anyway, then he and his minions send out the community organizers to incite riots and hate against the chosen Pharisees. It’s the formula for people who deceive because they have no rational argument that people should be serfs under their absolute rule. The truth is a hard to sell. Using people’s emotions is much easier.

          Last point: Yes, they are a tiny minority of the population. If they weren’t, they wouldn’t need the Borg or a community organizer messiah or have to utter one single lie, because there would be raging support for bondage. However, since there isn’t…

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          • Lars says:

            The American citizens who are spending money can at least start to funnel money toward White waiters, White waitresses, White companies. Bartering with Whites can be fun and oh so racist.

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      • RJ says:

        I warned you people a long time ago about this evil clown, Obama. I guess he finally got to your doorsteps and while “doing his thing” you noticed your “loss of freedoms” were directly tied to Obama’s decisions and acts as president.

        What you say? “He’s a liar, he lies all the time, is always deceptive!” No kidding… He’s got a really big chip on his shoulder, he wants to “get even” with you and many others.

        He ain’t done by a long shot!

        Hear any voices coming to the rescue? See anybody out there who looks like a true warrior-leader? Realize, if such a person exists, you’ll need to watch for the media (the praetorian guard of Obama) to swarm-then destroy this voice of freedom from tyranny.

        This malignant narcissist (Obama) has many who rush to surround his being, to lick his boots, to share in his radiance and to accept all his offerings while doing his bidding.

        He told you people long ago what he intended to do, only you were too blinded by his complexion and your internal guilts to see the truths of this person–his evil intentions for our country.

        Do you really think he is an American who loves his country?

        Obama is nothing more than a MacDaddy pimp who’s coming for “the man” who is you…and you…and me.

        “Stay five yards apart!” Wise words from Col. Hackworth.

        Gird your loins people!

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      • yankeeintx says:

        I agree with some of what you have said, but to claim Ted Cruz has taken no action? I seem to remember him leading the way into forcing Obama to shut down the gov’t over Obamacare. His actions failed because the Republicans caved. Just what do you expect him to be able to do all on his own?

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        • James Lynn says:

          I wouldn’t necessarily say the republicans caved, Boehner broke the Hastard rule at the 11th hour and allowed 2 or 3 dozen or so house Rino’s to vote with the democrats to end the shutdown. Still a overwhelming majority of republicans opposed it.

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      • skeptiktank says:

        Trey Gowdy.

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        • RJ says:

          Good start with Rep. Gowdy. Add to his name that of Sen. Sessions, Sen. Cruz (the Sarah Palin sword of justice…so to speak) and lawyer J. Turley. Maybe Gov. Perry might jump in at some point. Boehner and McConnell are two wimps whose best work is done deep in some back room closets…in the dark…with no witnesses.

          You’ll know the real deal when you hear it and then see it. It will be a line of thinking that basically says: “Enough is enough, I’m here to stop you with everything I’ve got!”

          The problem is time…the legal games get played, the political games get talked around, and we stupid citizens have a short attention span.

          “Better call Saul!”

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          • jakeandcrew says:

            You mentioned Jonathan Turley – he’s already getting busy on behalf of his new client, the House of Representatives:

            http://jonathanturley.org/2014/11/21/house-files-challenge-over-the-changes-to-the-affordable-care-act/

            Although it’s specifically about Obamacare, it’s focusing on the constitutional issues that we’re dealing with in immigration, as well. Turley says, “To put it simply, the complaint focuses on the means rather than ends.”

            Here’s a clip, but the whole post is a good read…

            “There are a myriad of unilateral amendments to this Act, ordered by President Obama’s Administration, which could be the subject of a challenge, and there are a number of changes that are already being litigated, including King v. Burwell, which has been accepted by the Supreme Court for review. The House’s complaint, however, focuses on the Administration’s usurpation not only of the House’s Article I legislative authority, but also of the defining “power of purse.” Both of these powers were placed exclusively in Article I by the Framers of our Constitution. These constitutional and statutory claims are highly illustrative of the current conflict between the branches over the basic principles of the separation of powers. The House’s complaint seeks to reaffirm the clear constitutional lines of separation between the branches – a doctrine that is the very foundation of our constitutional system of government. To put it simply, the complaint focuses on the means rather than ends.”

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        • whodoneit says:

          That’s who came to mind for me as well – who I affectionately refer to as mad dog Gowdy. Unleash him an d see what happens.

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        • yankeeintx says:

          He really disappointed me when he co-sponsored the ENLIST Act. I understand that immigrants have been allowed to serve in our military, but now illegal immigrants? They claim “newly legalized” but that’s another term for the Obama’s Dreamers. I don’t think they should be allowed to compete for jobs against American citizens.

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          • RJ says:

            Hey, read your Gibbons where you will learn that taking in “barbarians” as soldiers of Rome was a game the citizens played who were too busy to join their military hoping that these new conscripts would do the work they wished not to do. Worked fine until the bad guys (read barbarians) got strong enough to overrun the relaxing Romans, who had grown fat and far too happy.

            Sound familiar? Ok, think of cancer cells joining up to fight one of the organ systems in your body. Get enough cells and you are in real trouble!

            So, let’s bring in illegals from wherever they can come. Get just enough of them and presto, the game changes.

            “Better call Saul!”

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    • kinthenorthwest says:

      Obama and the people behind him knew exactly what they were doing in 2008, with the use of the Race Card at any bump that Obama’s campaign meet along the way.
      Just look back guys at Obama’s campaign. Anytime there was a glitch or bump from the opposition or citizens, out came the “Race Card.
      Obama was and is the least vetted president and presidential candidate that America has had in decades,.. In 2008 no one dared to question anything about Obama for fear of the being called Racist. Obama and his people have used this to do whatever they want gaining more and more power at every step of the way.
      Now those that can do anything about this narcissist president are still too scared to step forward because of the “Race Card”.

      Is it too late to stop this out of control narcissist president and save what is left of America. I really don’t know any more. I do know that between Obamacare and the Amnesty Executive Order Obama just decreed our country is really screwed Economically.
      I truly fear what about the future of our country and what it holds for our children and future generations to come.

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  2. jetstream says:

    Breaking Video: Sheriff Joe Arpaio Sues Obama
    Over His Unconstitutional Immigration Order
    http://www.birtherreport.com/2014/11/breaking-video-sheriff-joe-arpaio-sues.html

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  3. Latinos, just as blacks, are tools for the Progressive faction, nothing more. Another means to an end. They are not people, they are things that will vote, and it’s not beyond the realm of possibility that when the next elections roll around, the Emperor will have granted his brown subjects the right to vote, as well.

    Blacks served this purpose during the Progs rise to power, and the progression of tyrannical events has moved them out of importance of a voting bloc and into being tools who will bring militarization to this country. I believe that is the purpose of this feeding frenzy the federal component has wrought in Ferguson. It seems unlikely that things would have blown up to such incindiary proportions and become such a focus for the perpetually, and professionally, disaffected had Holder [Obama] not stepped in immediately to fan the flames of hatred by encouraging conflict (and giving free reign to the BGI), just as they did with Occupy and just as they did by lighting the fires under other tools like the Unions, regarding the Obamacare debate. All those things were allowed, and encouraged, to move toward violence deliberately and methodically. These groups have all been trained purposefully and to a single endgame.

    Blacks have been rotated to another place on the game board as the Latinos have been moved onto it – now excited and grateful to their Messiah, just as we saw with the Blacks in 2008. They can’t serve the same purpose as blacks do now because their “community” has not been so thoroughly indoctrinated and is in a newborn state of flux, but i don’t think it will take MEChA and LaRaza long to bring their brothers and sisters up to speed.

    As for the nauseous oration of the Emperor, yes, there is much disdain in it. The Latinos won’t be coming here and picking our fruit or cutting our grass. That part of the speech was to disseminate the New Narrative of the left, appealing to the heartstrings, modeling the ‘right’ attitude for Whites to have. I’m sure all the Lefties just loved the speech. Obama would never come right out and say they are here to take OUR jobs, of course, but he would set the tone wherein the narrative will become LEGAL citizens should move over – because it’s the AMERICAN thing to do, and move over to make room and welcome these poor who are just trying to get an even shake, just want to make a life for their poor family, just trying to escape the violence (which is the cruelest joke of all)…. yadayadayada. Yeah, just like the middle class has been trying to do since things went so badly south for the once upwardly mobile – around 2008.

    All the while the federal revenues go to line the pockets of the elites and underwrite the federal largess like a bloated pig in the summer sun and the States will be the ones that will have to foot the bill for the pseudo-legal illegals, furthering burdening and eroding the middle class, and irretrievably throwing our way of life in this country down the swirling sewer. Like hell they’ll pay taxes. Who the hell is going to track that?

    We know the demonization true patriots will have to endure from here on out. We’ll be racist of a another magnitude of order, only now everyone, us included, will know there’s damned little we can do about it. If not this, why has the WH allowed the vile anti-white racist comments by the illegals and their community to stand on the OFFICIAL White House Facebook page??

    The question that burns in my brain is not so much about the Tyrant in Chief creating legal workers as it is about timing. Why make the announcement within days of the Grand Jury decision in Ferguson? Why both on Thanksgiving weekend? The only answer I can come up with is that emotions on all sides will be at their angst ridden, garment rending, molotov cocktail throwing, line-in-the-sand worst. He’s seeding the soon to be Scorched Earth. And that’s just his Domestic Policy. How many fronts can the American People fight at once? How much does the Constitution stand for if we no longer have representatives to uphold it?

    How many of us own recon drones?

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    • My apologies. I can’t look at any of this piecemeal anymore. I’ll go back to lurking now.

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    • Col.(R)Ken says:

      Excellent, well done, thank you! May I use a few comments in your post?

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    • auscitizenmom says:

      “How many fronts can the American People fight at once” EXACTLY! The whole point of the announcement last night, along with Ferguson, and the Obamacare signup and it is all blending together so that we all are involved while he tears the country apart.

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    • Wow….just wow. Well said patternpuzzler. You’ve put the pieces together quite well.

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    • jason says:

      can’t click like so just wanted to say that was a great post.

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    • Darrell W says:

      Patternpuzzler, Are you a writer or a journalist? If you aren’t you should be. Thanks for the outstanding post!

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    • rashomon says:

      Excellent recap, patternpuzzler. I wish every time he used his pen he was required to tack on the bill for what he’s going to cost us, the taxpayers. This signature is going to knock the debt up another several billion for education, healthcare, food stamps, housing and the hiring of all those people necessary to deliver such benefits to the illegals now filling jobs we don’t have…jobs, I might add, that those 90% unemployed youth, 16 – 26 years (26 since we’ve now expanded the definition of “dependent youth”), in the black and Latino community could probably fill if someone would corral them into an enterprise zone.

      They have the ingenuity, business acumen, muscle and marketing skills to make dealing drugs one of America’s largest profit centers. Why not transfer those skills to legitimate businesses? Ones where they actually do have to pay taxes vs. get a check from the taxpayers via the Earned Income Tax Credit scam.

      Perhaps he should also take a look at the present gang wars between blacks and Latinos competing for territory, thus ravaging communities with bullets. You can be assured that most of those 5 million he welcomes will not be working in the gardens or changing sheets at hotels.

      He’s counting on us to give up. W-r-o-n-g.

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    • Elspeth says:

      “States will be the ones that will have to foot the bill for the pseudo-legal illegals, ”

      One wonders if another purpose to the illegal alien invasion is indeed to bankrupt the states and reduce them to powerless districts under Federal control–ie, take away their Constitutional powers by bleeding them dry financially. Illegals plus Obamacare will destroy the states.

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  4. bob e says:

    “Univision’s Jorge Ramos Complains Illegal Alien Latinos Not Represented in Congress” ..
    ** look at this headline ** .. posted in gateway pundit ..

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  5. jakeandcrew says:

    He used the phrase “get right with the law” at least three times, I think. If this executive order sets people who are here illegally right with the law, then it’s either granting them amnesty, or it’s changing the law – neither of which the President has the power to do. What else could “getting right with the law” mean?

    This Andrew McCarthy article is very helpful – goes right along with what Sundance is saying about prosecutorial discretion:
    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/393094/no-prosecutorial-discretion-does-not-justify-obamas-lawless-amnesty-andrew-c-mccarthy/page/0/1

    A legal immigrant’s reaction to Obama’s speech – she lets him have it:
    http://twitchy.com/2014/11/20/dont-look-now-liar-obama-but-this-legal-immigrant-is-tearing-into-you-and-its-beautiful/

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  6. stella says:

    I have another question. Read this paragraph from the White House document:

    3. Recent Border Crossers will be a Priority for Deportation

    You must have been in the US for at least 5 years to qualify for these programs. These executive actions will not benefit immigrants who recently crossed the border (defined as those who entered the country after January 1, 2014), who may cross the border in the future, or who help those who cross in the future, but rather immigrants who have been living in the United States for years. The President’s actions increase the chances that anyone attempting to cross the border illegally today will be caught and then sent back

    Why are “immigrants who recently crossed the border” defined as “those who entered the country after January 1, 2014”, and NOT “those who entered the country after December 31, 2009”?

    Another question: What is the “fee” he talks about? I didn’t watch the speech, so don’t know if he mentioned how much that will be.

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    • auscitizenmom says:

      The reason the dates don’t match is because they don’t matter anyway. He doesn’t intend to deport anybody.

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    • Dixie Darling says:

      I tried to listen to the speech and got most of it. As far as I know, nothing was mentioned about a fee. Course, I was so busy throwing stuff at the television, I could have missed it.

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    • Elspeth says:

      If Obama’s executive order is actually meant to be scrupulously followed (and that’s a big if), then the 5-year requirment will apply to anyone who jumped the border up to Dec 31, 2013. In other words, in 2018, those who came in 2013 will be eligible for Obama’s form of amnesty. So, Obama’s executive order will be ongoing for 4 years, continuing to apply from now to December 31, 2018. After that is the alleged cutoff. (It’s also the next two election cycles.)

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    • More smoke and mirrors for that teflon touch. Lets him (and his apologists) hold up a sign that says “If it was MY idea to bring all these UACs and their families in, why would I turn around and exclude them from this wonderful amnesty program?”

      As for the fee thing, cursory investigations seems to refer to the fees charged each applicant for citizenship. I think it’s the money Legal Immigrant and others want back that they have been charged in the past and that are now being waived for the #fruitpickers and #bedmakers.

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  7. Paul H. Lemmen says:

    Reblogged this on A Conservative Christian Man.

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  8. jafir1 says:

    The closer this tin pot dictator gets to the end of his reign, the more dangerous he may become. It would be most beneficial to radical muslims if the US and Russia destroyed each other. Therefore I would keep the guy with the football far from Obama.

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  9. Here are some facts that anyone who doesn’t currently live in a heavily Latino populated area (or lived there in the past) doesn’t probably know – the majority of these people aren’t here because they want to be U.S. citizens. No, on the contrary, they definitely do not wish to be U.S. citizens. They are fiercely loyal to their home countries. They cover up the state of Texas on their license plates with stickers of the Mexican, Honduran, Venezuelan, etc. flags.

    They send ALL of their “spare” money back to their home countries instead of spending it here. They ONLY do business with other Latinos and, as much as possible, under the table and in cash deals. They do not put money back into our economy – they pull it out and then send it out of the country.

    They put 3, 4, 5 families together in a single family home (even the “higher class” ones) and have little respect for our social norms and mores. I cannot count the times I’ve seen one get off of their bicycle in the middle of a main street, turn their backs to traffic and urinate in public. We had the pleasure of living next door to such a household in our upper middle class neighborhood – there were never any less than 10 vehicles parked in and around the driveway. Too numerous to count were the times they had us blocked so that we couldn’t get out of our driveway or park when we returned. There was an endless 24/7 stream of people in and out and parties going all hours of the night – sometime with mariachi bands blaring.

    Many of them are overtly hostile to Americans. The Mexicans believe we “stole” their country from them and they are still attempting to take back a large swath of the U.S. They are aligning themselves and waiting for the day – and it appears it has arrived.

    And that’s just the Hispanic/Latinos. They are not the ONLY illegals here. There are PLENTY of Muslim illegals here, too, and they wand was just waived to give terrorists legal status here.

    Check this article out and then look at the illegal birth stats for Parkland Memorial Hospital in Dallas County:

    http://toprightnews.com/?p=1333

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    • McGuffin says:

      True all true. I live in DFW and the Mexicans do not want to assimilate. Most don’t bother to learn English, associate only with Mexicans including doing business, and have much contempt for “us”. They are not and will not ever become Americans. That’s not their motive. Just as you said above.

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    • tappin52 says:

      My sister lived for a time in San Antonio where she worked in management for a local company. She was one of only a handful of white people in the place, the rest being Hispanic. Not only did she get no respect as a manager, she was subject to disciplinary action due to lies told by those she managed (she won her disputes), but she was physically threatened and her car was vandalized in the parking lot. They wanted the gringos out.

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    • mikayla825 says:

      If I didn’t know you were formerly in Texas, I would have thought you lived here. Thank you for saying so eloquently what I was not so eloquently thinking.

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  10. stella says:

    I Think Most Of Us Have Been Yelling This At Lefties On Social

    http://iotwreport.com/?p=262465

    “we can be virtually certain that illegal immigrants earned less than $24,000 per year, on average, probably much less.” That amounts to around $29,000 in 2014 dollars, well below the threshold where an American has a net income-tax liability.

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  11. Lee Jan says:

    Grubering from the White House.

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  12. dsb steve says:

    Republicans are suggesting no alternatives, no solutions to the immigration issue. The US should take more of a role in governance in Central America. Help them run their countries so their people do not have to leave. Do not grant citizenship to a child born in the US of non citizens. Expand the ability of non citizens to work in the US – only require they check in with local authorities from time to time, pay taxes and return home periodically ( depending on the work they do and where home is )

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  13. dsb steve says:

    NPR is wall to wall Obama on the amnesty decision. Interview after interview with Spanish people who want to say, want their mother to stay, support the immigrants, etc. No interviews of citizens who feel they are losing their country, who think the population growth harms the environment.

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    • Sentient says:

      NPR’s reporting keeps referring to Obama’s changes to the US immigration “system”. That’s because they know they can’t say he changed immigration “law”. Even libtards know the president’s not supposed to make law. As usual, they cover for him. I think I should make a donation to MN public radio. Or cent per month via auto debit from my credit card.

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  14. nyetneetot says:

    ….workers who pick our fruit and make our beds…

    Mom?

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  15. Tkim says:

    He even used scripture (in his patronizing tone) to convince us bitter clingers. That is called Jesus juking Obama. A way to steer an argument by trying to guilt believers into changing their positions.

    Sorry, pal. We know our scripture and we darn sure know our Constitution. Peddle that elsewhere.

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    • waltherppk says:

      OT and twisted humor, but you know that those ISIS cutthroats who are (of course) not muslims are “bitter clingers” too ….clinging to their qurans and AK’s……anyone could just rearrange a little furniture there and see the plain parallel with …..the Tea Party!

      Or maybe it could be there is a substantive difference there like anti-Christ and Christ…..
      a plain enough substantive distinction to make, unless afflicted by the confusion of false moral equivalences, like the ignorance of secular progressives would make.

      When choosing bitter clingers for friends ….choose well….and keep your head.

      Even someone as challenged as Bill Maher “gets it”.

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    • Col.(R)Ken says:

      Yes, I had seen that part, quoting from the Bible, all the while I kept hearing a voice that said, ” I will smite thee”.

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  16. waltherppk says:

    The false claim that the U.S. has a “broken immigration system” is simply the “big lie” of the propagandist subversives and oath violators who are the criminal enablers of illegal aliens acting in criminal conspiracy with them. The laws which allow legal immigration are not onerous laws but have long presented a legal pathway to citizenship which involves rules and applies standards that would regulate immigration so the best interests of The People of the United States who are already its legal citizens are protected from an invasion by foreign nationals who are criminals or are diseased, or are illiterate and unskilled, or for various already identified reasons are not desirable as candidates for citizenship, because there is legitimately a cost versus benefit analysis that must reasonably be applied to distinguish persons acceptable immigrants from
    other persons who are not acceptable as immigrants. That is common sense as a legitimate national security interest not only for the United States but for any other sovereign nation.
    Borders with checkpoints and customs inspection exist because there is a legitimate need to prevent the unrestricted travel of both people and goods, because the quality and nature of either people or goods can be negative in ways that creates a security issue, and there are both persons and goods which common sense would make identifiable as contraband which should rationally be prohibited entry or residency because the importation or residency of unacceptable persons or goods is not in the best interests of the destination population, whose interests should be protected from importation of what is reasonable to be prohibited entry. Just as people have doors on their houses and fences around their property to provide some measure of security for the inhabitants of what is their properly secured home, so do nations have borders and methods for protection of the citizens whose extended home is that nation. So immigration and customs is a legitimate national security interest which is common sense and is intended to exclude trespassers and contraband which are clear threats to those who have a right to reside in what is their home and should be a sanctuary protected from persons and goods that are alien to that environment. The concept of borders and customs is a legal and common sense protection for the homeland and for those who legally reside there.

    Common sense then also dictates that for those to whom such things as borders and customs are an unacceptable obstacle to their business of travel or commerce are demonstrating a character and nature that identifies that they do not belong where they are, doing whatever travel activity or commerce that is in conflict with and continues in violation of the laws, which represent a conflict of interest with the interest of the destination population, opposite to their own criminal agenda involving unlawful travel or commerce, This is not rocket science, but is common sense generally and certainly does not represent any “broken” immigration system. The most significant thing “broken” about the “immigration system” is the absence of LAW ENFORCEMENT which should give effect to ENFORCE what are common sense immigration laws which already exist, but in the alternative are LAWS not enforced because of the DERELICTION OF DUTY of oath violators who fail to DO THEIR DUTY to enforce laws and who conspire and enable those who circumvent and violate the law. The false claim that there is a “broken” immigration system is a LIE being told by CRIMINALS and those who conspire with those criminals and enable them to continue in their crime. This is not a business where people can have it both ways and the law either means something or the law means nothing. So no one should ever be deceived by the “BIG LIE” that the immigration system is somehow “broken”. That is a misleading PROPAGANDA claim that is a misdirection about the nature of the problem that is a good comparison with a claim that a car is “broken” when someone has put water in the fuel tank instead of gasoline. There is more than a trivial distinction about what is “broken” and what is being deliberately sabotaged by criminals.

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    • michellc says:

      Our “broken” immigration system was broken by government under Republican and Democrat Presidents and Congress by not enforcing the immigration laws. This has been a thorn in jails across the nation’s side for decades. They arrest them after they’ve broken other laws and call immigration to be told they don’t want them. Then a government who also doesn’t enforce the laws already on the books when it comes to businesses that hire them. Then of course our border which never gets secured.

      This bs about them being in the shadows is just that as well, they’re not in the shadows, the government just pretends they don’t see them.

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      • michellc says:

        Something else that chaps my behind, is the open hatred they put on display for our country by carrying their flags and chanting for their country, while spray painting, stomping on or burning our flag. Then our idiotic three branches of government call it their 1st amendment rights to do so. Our Constitution applies to Americans not to other countries or their citizens.

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      • waltherppk says:

        Illegal immigration could be quickly addressed using census data and e-verify employment screening and e-verify screening for legal domicile residency rental, lease or lodging requirements, medical service providers, drivers licenses and vehicle registrations, and even for utility customer screenings for electricity and water and gas, even for purchases of food or gasoline…..make it impossible for illegal aliens without proper identification to engage in any business that would enable their continued presence, ……and the problem ceases to exist. All it would take to “fix” an allegedly “broken” immigration system is law enforcement. Illegal aliens only reside in a country where it is possible for them to conduct the ordinary business activities of daily living without having proper identification and credentials. Make it impossible for people without proper and verifiable credentials to conduct any ordinary business and they can’t live in a country where they try to reside illegally…….even if they have a suitcase full of cash, the problems they encounter will eventually make unlawful residency discoverable and they should then be deported. Give the law teeth and see just how “not broken” the immigration system is when it is working like a charm. People saying there is a “broken” immigration system are the worst kind of damn liars and they are simply criminals using that claim as an artifice for fraud.

        That very much includes all the public officials who are lying about a “broken immigration system”. They are self identifying by use of that rhetoric as subversives who are part of a criminal conspiracy to defraud The People of the United States. That includes many members of Congress of both parties, especially the speaker of the House who is a damn liar like the rest of those involved in what is a criminal conspiracy to subvert and circumvent the law. It is difficult to apply analysis that would dismiss as “politics” the criminal acts of people who should be criminally prosecuted for malfeasance and put in jail. Let them do their politics in prison, not in congress.

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      • waltherppk says:

        If bank robberies were occurring in epidemic numbers every day, there would not be a false claim ventured by politicians that our banking system is somehow “broken” and needs to be fixed by making banks more user friendly to bank robbers. What would be the remedy would be to get serious about security and do whatever is required to stop the bank robbers. And you could make a list of similar situations where it makes sense to call the problem what it is and deal with it directly, instead of trying to redefine reality and simply let the problem continue while lying about what is actually the problem.

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        • And you could make a list of similar situations where it makes sense to call the problem what it is and deal with it directly, instead of trying to redefine reality and simply let the problem continue while lying about what is actually the problem.

          Preach it, Brother!

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      • Until there’s an election, at which time they are cloned.

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  17. truth says:

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  18. SouthCentralPA says:

    Don’t even play the race hustlers’ game. Identity Theft. Did I mention identity theft? Good. Keep talking about identity theft. People care about identity theft.

    What was I talking about? Oh, that’s right: identity theft.

    Identity theft.

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    • joanfoster says:

      An odd coincidence or maybe not. I just received notice that American Express will no longer provide identity theft coverage as one of their perks for having a card. I thought this was curious.

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  19. texan59 says:

    Just remember that everything dear leader says and does, comes with an expiration date. I wonder if Jesse and Reziss We Much realize that they have been pushed down a little bit lower on the totem pole. 🙄

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  20. IntoTheFray says:

    I see this as Soros, through his clown Obama and his willing hacks in the Lame Stream Media, starting a multiple front war trying to overrun the system.
    Sadly, I have no confidence in the abilities of the current GOP leadership to effectively fight this war. At this point, the GOP needs warriors in charge and what they have are political buffoons. To quote:”In a battle of wits gentlemen, you are unarmed!”
    We are in the middle of a “perfect storm” and America is taking on water fast!

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  21. doodahdaze says:

    The GOP should let the word go forth. All illegals who sign up for Obamnesty will be easy to find in 2017 when he is done. Anyone who signs up with the criminal in chief will be deported as soon as caught and a search of the welfare rolls will be done for benefit cutoff.

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  22. Tkim says:

    He hates us. He really, really hates us.

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  23. czarowniczy says:

    “…[…] Are we a nation that tolerates the hypocrisy of a system where workers who pick our fruit and make our beds never have a chance to get right with the law?” Are we talking about Detroit and Ferguson here?

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  24. czarowniczy says:

    “…[…] Over the past few years, I have seen the determination of immigrant fathers who worked two or three jobs, without taking a dime from the government, and at risk at any moment of losing it all, just to build a better life for their kids.” So does that mean, Emperor POtuS the 1st, that you didn’t see any of these kinds of these hard-working people while you were a community organizer? Geez, guy, what makes you think, especially as you’re a progressive DemocRAT, that the hordes of soon-to-be-pardoned criminals will flock to gainful employment any faster than the rest of your tax-payer dependent krewe? Oh wait, we still have a few working class folk who haven’t been bled to death yet.

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    • czarowniczy says:

      And, you two-faced dissembling DemocRAT, why didn’t you mention the determined immigrant MOTHERS who work multiple jobs to support their kids? Or did you just gather your data over a few malt liquors with the hermanos at the bodega? Guess it’s tough not being hypocritical on short notice.
      And might the reason many of these non-welfare drawing illegals didn’t draw welfare is they couldn’t or feared arrest for their crimes?

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    • CrankyinAZ says:

      He sees that, but can’t see any of our Veterans struggling to get by, or suffering in the VA Hospitals – When it comes to that, he sees “nothing.”

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      • czarowniczy says:

        Agreed but as long as I’ve been working with VA issues (since about 1970 with Sen Moss’s office) he ain’t the only one, it’s epidemic. Even Congress is, and has been, more mouth action than action-action.

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  25. kinthenorthwest says:

    Here is a Good Article by ROY BECK Founder & President of Numbers USA on this Fiasco ( Just a snippet below). they have good inform on their site sometimes.
    WORK PERMITS banned from his speech tonight but not from the Obama amnesty. DECEPTION?n a 2,200-word speech, he didn’t mention “work permits” or “work authorization” even once.
    Pres. Obama’s huge prime-time TV speech about his big fix of the “broken immigration system” somehow left out the fact that he would be rewarding millions of unlawfully present foreign citizens with three-year work permits to compete directly with struggling American workers.

    He hid the most consequential part of his big immigration “deal” from the American people.

    The President made it seem like the big change was that he was going to stop deporting illegal aliens who don’t have a big felony record. But officials already have acknowledged that the average illegal alien has almost no chance of being deported, anyway.

    He told us that if the illegal aliens stay here they have to pay taxes. But he forgot to say they would get work permits and be able to compete for any job in construction, manufacturing, service, programming or any other occupation. Or that they would get Social Security numbers to enable them to obtain all kinds of other documents that could embed them in America for life.

    He indicated that Americans who oppose his immigration “deal” for around 5 million illegal aliens might be guilty of religious and racial prejudice, and probably of violating the admonitions of scripture. But he didn’t tell the truth about his “deal.” He didn’t tell Americans about the work permits.
    https://www.numbersusa.com/blog/obama-speech-never-mentioned-his-action-gives-work-permits-millions-more-compete-directly

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    • czarowniczy says:

      There’s also the question of, when the illegals suddenly become voters, how many of their ‘immediate’ family members (as citizens) they’ll be allowed to bring into the US. Same deal as with the ‘unaccompanied minor disease vectors’ we’re still trying to disinfect and place – they’ll eventually get to bring in Mama, Papa, brothers and sisters and anyone else they claim to be immediate family whom neither they nor their home countries have birth certificates on. Y’all come on in – screen door’s off the hinges.

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      • kinthenorthwest says:

        It’s A Amnesty Pyramid Scheme. Come Guys What Part Of Illegal Do They Not Understand?
        All An Illegal Has To Do Is Find A Relative That Is Either One Of Obama’s Executive Order Dreamers Or An Anchor Baby. You Can Believe That This Will Only Increase The Influx Of Illegals Across The Border.(Fyi—It Isn’t Just 5 Million Illegals, It’s More Like 30 To 50 Million). Remember Illegals Are All Criminals!!! They Broke The Law When They Crossed The Border Or Overstayed Their Border Illegally. Every day They Stay They Compound Their Crime with Even More Fraud and Crimes, By Either Illegally Working in the States or Illegally Collecting Governmental Benefits.

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        • czarowniczy says:

          I’m betting that at some point the planners want to see a joint ‘EU’ kind of arrangement with Mexico and Canada. We provide the land, resources and technology, Mexico provides workers and drugs and Canada provides Celine Dion commemorative items, cold-based reality programming and hockey teams that can really play hockey.
          Much of the US’s West is at the Latino-voter tipping point and it’s been going on for years. The Motor Voter Law started under Clinton and if it were such a wicked thing as the Republicans portrayed, they had 8 years of Bush II to get rid of it. We have had some 20 years of illegals coming in with direct and unfettered access to drivers licenses and one-stop voting registration. The few million the POtuS wants to add to the mix is the tip of the ice berg with more surely ti come. I mentioned a week or two ago that I saw a vintage Saturday Night live from 1979 wherein the did a skit about illegal Mexican immigrants that even then were flooding here in numbers large enough to warrant a nationally recognized spoof of it. Someone’s had this on the agenda for a long time and it’s showing no sign of slowing.

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          • kinthenorthwest says:

            Do Believe that Obama was made by ??? for the purpose he is currently fulfilling. Someone or a group have been grooming Obama for many years..Not sure it was prior to his 18th birthday or not..

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            • czarowniczy says:

              That’s basically true of every president. I sometimes wonder how many there are out there who’ve been groomed for decades by power brokers only to end up in 2nd or 3rd place. I don’t feel sorry for them – just wondering.

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              • kinthenorthwest says:

                Difference being I believe Obama’s groomers were not looking for the good of America or Americans..There is something going on which I am not liking..

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                • czarowniczy says:

                  True, but they usually pick someone who doesn’t have the same Death to European-America agenda he does. I’m wondering if they weren’t as interested in feathering their beds here as previous puppeteers were? What bothers me is does THEIR personal agenda include a need to bring the US down for their ends?

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                • kinthenorthwest says:

                  Obamacare and This recent Amnesty has and will be our downfall..
                  Look around—How much of the 17 Trillion debt has really that much do do with America and Americans.
                  I will make a bet that way over 50% of this have gone to our wars & middle eastern conflicts, helping other countries, the Illegals..financing Obama’s donors schemes. and the list goes on..
                  Just look at how our country has gone down hill in so many ways..It just does not feel right.

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                • kinthenorthwest says:

                  Yea but where was our money was our American money spend…

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                • czarowniczy says:

                  Depends upon who spent it. Those nifty electronics that entertain us and many of the movies we flock to are Chinese or Japanese. Those imported foods and drinks (from water to wine to hard booze) are largely foreign, the vehicles we drive for work, pleasure and war are largely foreign. Look at that Social Security – there was a growing surplus in the SS pot until Dems stole it all to pay for Vietnam as they didn’t want to derail the Great Society ‘welfare for all’ program that was going to end poverty. Dems through SS into the general budget and rolled other welfare programs into it and that made a huge bulge in the debt. Most ofthe debt’s domestic but that doesn’t make the pain any less painful and those who elected and REELECTED the people that did it are just as responsible.

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    • CrankyinAZ says:

      Guess all that “green paper” is going to be coming in handy after all….

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  26. angie says:

    I didn’t watch Obama-he turns my stomach. Having watched the news though, I heard that he quoted Scripture. Coming from Obama’s mouth, that is breaking the Commandment, “Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain.”. Here’s some Scripture for you, Obama: Exodus 20:7:
    “Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain: for the Lord will not hold him guiltless that shall take the name of the Lord his God in vain.”

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  27. texan59 says:

    All this amnesty play is is just a natural extension of Cloward-Piven. Here is the original story. It will take a few minutes, but is well worth the time. Here is a sampling –

    “Widespread campaigns to register the eligible poor for welfare aid, and to help existing recipients obtain their full benefits, would produce bureaucratic disruption in welfare agencies and fiscal disruption in local and state governments. These disruptions would generate severe political strains, and deepen existing divisions among elements in the big-city Democratic coalition: the remaining white middle class, the white working-class ethnic groups and the growing minority poor. To avoid a further weakening of that historic coalition, a national Democratic administration would be constrained to advance a federal solution to poverty that would override local welfare failures, local class and racial conflicts and local revenue dilemmas”

    http://www.thenation.com/article/weight-poor-strategy-end-poverty

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  28. mrsqt says:

    All part of Obama’s ultimate “Impunty for Minorites” plan. Eric Holder and his Department of Just Us already begun to implement this in Ferguson, Mo.

    Unfortunately most of the people reading this don’t qualify for the exemption – and it has nothing to do with the fact that we obey the law.

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  29. Make our beds? Must be nice

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  30. pspinach says:

    START THE PROCEEDINGS FOR IMPEACHMENT. Starting it will put Barry on notice. The future is not ours to predict. Only Providence knows the map. Do the ground work, prepare, so that everything is in place for Barry’s removal should the time and landscape fall into place. FOR THE RECORD, IMPEACHMENT MUST BE LAUNCHED, NO MATTER THE OUTCOME. It’s not for us to say. Every private lawsuit possible against Barry and his administration must also be launched. Crowd sourcing, you might call it. It won’t be one thing that takes him down. It will be thousands of darts. He must be held to account for his malevolence against a country to such degree it is severely pathological.

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  31. kinthenorthwest says:

    This is why I have been calling this a Amnesty Pyramid Scheme.
    These people have not only broken the laws of the land for many years, on top of lying to either work or collect benefits to survive in the country
    The crux of this bill is that they are truthful, yet since when have they truthful when it comes to their ability to say in the US. These Illegals have been dishonest from the time they first entered illegally or over stayed their visa. Yet by some miracle they are going to start telling the truth???
    Just a small snippet from the article
    The New Immigration Problem
    Posted: 11/21/2014 3:00 pm EST Updated: 11/21/2014 3:01 pm ES
    Even with the bureaucracy in place, how does one establish that an illegal immigrant has been in the country for five years? There will be any number of circumstances where people will be willing to lie for other people, whether it is to shield a relative, retain an employee, or just keep someone with a financial obligation in the country to maintain the possibility of repayment. Any number of scenarios could be devised. The time limit begs additional questions. Is the implication that five years is now a statute of limitations for illegal immigration? Are we to assume that the President is really willing to expel people who have been here for four years and ten months?
    What about the repayment of taxes? Will this include the state and local taxes due the communities that have had to shoulder the burden of carrying these people within municipal infrastructures? These people are illegal. There may be no trail of their employment whatsoever. Does an illegal immigrant who claims no employment history have any obligation? What employer is going to step forward to verify anything, thus incurring the implication of not paying withholding taxes or committing employment violations? Are these taxes going to count toward Social Security? ..
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/joseph-blady-md/the-new-immigration-probl_b_6198546.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592

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  32. lil dotty says:

    Lawyerize not spoken please help… What does this mean?
    Immigration Reform Control Act of 1986 “NOTICE TO CONGRESS BEFORE IMPLEMENTING CHANGES” (Required)
    http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/STATUTE-100/pdf/STATUTE-100-Pg3445.pdf

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