Former Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe appeared on Fox News to discuss his perspective on the classified document scandal now making headlines.
Within his remarks, Ratcliffe gives perspective to the issue of classified documents and then contrasts the issue against the previous DOJ position against former President Donald Trump. However, in the bigger picture the perspective is somewhat askew.
As we have noted from the outset of the Biden term, the installation always appeared to be a ‘one-term’ strategy. Meaning the people behind the installation were using Biden as a single term disposable front man to advance a rapid set of ideological policies. The controversy of the classified documents facilitates the one term design.
With that approach in mind, the issue of contrast between the Biden documents and the Trump documents is a moot point. What is done, or not done, regarding Joe Biden has no bearing on the roadmap of continued Trump targeting. Biden is and was always disposable. WATCH:
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Remove the pretending and what you discover is a replay of DC political manipulation and the continuation of the two-party system around the illusion of choice. The DNC wing is heading toward Gavin Newsom ’24, while the RNC wing is headed toward Ron DeSantis ’24. Essentially a replay of 2016’s Hillary vs Jeb.
The UniParty vulture is predictable. The RNC wing cares about money. The DNC wing cares about ideological power.
Never forget that the minute Ratcliffe took over for Grenell, declassification came to a screeching halt. Ratcliffe is uniparty deep state.
I don’t know that this is true.
I’ve always wondered what happened with Ratcliffe.
At the time, it seemed he said good things but was trampled by CISA et al.
We all loved Grenell–and the 49/50 transcripts released. We still need Atkinson’s.
I hesitate to criticize Trump, or Grenell, or Ratcliffe…or really anyone else, until they join the dark side. Maybe I’ve just not researched sufficiently…
I’m always screaming about DeSantis because I HAVE researched him recently, and he seems to be a direct problem. Mostly DeSantis shrieks DISLOYAL, not-MAGA! by what he doesn’t say or do.
He should have come out to say he’d never run against his mentor long ago.
He should have DONE something to stop the Mar-a-Lago raid.
After all, he boasted about sending DOJ civil rights lawyers away during the election.
While I applaud the anti-vaccine measures, my first thought was “Paul Ryan/et al. donors let him fight their beloved vax? They’re SERIOUS about fighting Trump.”
No one who cares about America would join Democrats/media/GOPe/FBI etc to fight Trump
Sundance – It would be really nice to add a feature to allow users to see the handles of posters who click on the thumbs up button, so we can easily identify the teams of fake CTH enthusiasts sent by Brock’s organizations. They always send a team, so that they have someone to upvote their BS.
Greg McKinney. NoBoty.
Dominion machines are still in place.
Right.
50 States. 50 legislatures. Not ONE talking action on J6 gulags and lack of their due process.
Few talking about election fraud.
None talking about the known Auschwitz-dwarfing slave camps existing today.
It tells us all we need to know about where we are at.
“It tells us all we need to know about where we are at”.
” We” == You?
Those with Eyes Wide Shut tend to imagine they see all there is to see when actually they’re in the dark.
This leads to posting doom and gloom “reports” about how dark things are when, in reality, the sun is shining more and signs of new MAGA life are emerging everywhere.
Relevance?
THE DOUBLE AGENTS OF DC: ODNI Held Report On Foreign Interference In 2020 Election Until AFTER Pelosi / Ray Epps J6 Op And Electoral Vote Certification, Claimed China Did NOT Meddle In Election; Clapper Accused Of Commandeering HAMMER, Protecting Cuban Spy
https://theamericanreport.org/2023/01/08/the-double-agents-of-dc-odni-held-back-report-on-foreign-interference-in-2020-election-until-after-pelosi-ray-epps-j6-op-and-electoral-vote-certification-claimed-china-did-not-meddle-in-election/
Even those who spend 20/7/365 diligently researching will still know less the 40% of what’s really going on. At best.
What they understand is even less.
Never forget something that’s made up? Personally, I prefer to remember things that are true.
What’s with the “awaiting approval” ?? I didn’t think CTH had jail. Is it something I said?
Sometimes it is something simple like you misspelled your email address or user name. Every once in a while I do that. This just showed up so it very possibly could have been that with your previous post.
You do know it’s a privilege to be able to post here, not an entitlement, right?
If you remember that, it makes it easier to enjoy it.
Don’t like what you just said….sounds like a censored site.
Then go,..or stay. Its your choice, but quit carping.
it is…..known trolls and agitators are put on the “Do not post” list…..we try to have meaningful conversation here and do not need those who come for the purpose of inflaming the debate
This site is open to most anything that one wants to post, or at least that is how I have found it over the years.
When all internet speech was being targeted for extinction, Sundance searched for a way to keep his site operational. Finally, when it was ready to transition, he shut it down for a few days, left Word Press and developed his new site so free speech could continue. It took about a week to transition to his FREEDOM (my term) site and it was well worth the wait.
I used to comment vigorously on American Thinker and they went south. They were afraid of the Big Bad Wolves. Now, if you pay money and join their network, you can comment, otherwise, you just have to read what others think. So, it could be worse. They still post thoughtful articles and I still read them but I refuse to pay their fee.
Ad rems computer crashed. He’s trying to sort it out.
I’ve had this happen a few times, Clyde..especially when I was new to this site in ‘commenting’. Yet, every time, within hrs. my ‘comment’ was approved. I believe they have their reasons for screening. I am actually grateful to know that they do keep a careful watch on this site. Though I had been a reader for some time, it took me awhile before I felt comfortable to comment. I had run my own site on FB for 3 1/2 yrs. so I personally know how taxing it is to keep a watchful eye and to protect one’s site. I am not familiar with those that do operate this site, but I do know they work extremely hard to keep it as ‘safe’ as possible. For that, I am grateful. If it means that at times a comment must ‘wait for approval’, I’m good with that. The energy and dedication of overseeing such a site is exhausting and I commend their diligence in doing so.
I’ll add…it’s nothing personal. The operators of this site are simply being good stewards.
Every time I post I get a delay while waiting for approval. I don’t comment as much here as I do on a few other prominent sites, but enough that I am not a “newbie”. I read Sundance regularly because I think he is brilliant and prolific and incredibly intuitive, but as much as I loved and respected President Trump while he was in office, I’m not totally enthralled with his running again at this point in his life. This is an area of disagreement with nearly everyone that comments here. I don’t care. I come here to read Sundance.
“The DNC wing is heading toward Gavin Newsom ’24, while the RNC wing is headed toward Ron DeSantis ’24”
Well…..The MAGA wing is heading to reinstate the rightful president, Donald J. Trump!!
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There will be debates and RonDe will have to withstand the full public frontal assault from the person who instinctively knows how to carve people up – President Donald J. Trump! Politicians are trained to act “with decorum” in public. President Trump is a bare-knuckle brawler. We’ll see if any of the presumptive Republican candidates are any better than the last set of targets.
I wanna see Newsom wet himself when Trump goes into beast mode . Personally I think Newsom will need to wear some depends.
Ron, from everything the media has shown about Newsome, Poise pads for women may be more appropriate.
Newsom being Kimberley Guilfoyle’s ex makes for constant media fireworks via she and Don Jr.
I guess a vessel can be filled with poison or wine, with a good cleanse between the two.
Newsom is a very polished politician and liar. He’s an Americanized version of Mao and very dangerous.
And his aunt, I’m sure, is filling him in and giving him, “advice”.
Newsome reminds me of Christian Bales “American Psycho” character.
Several sets!!!
PDT wasn’t a bare knuckle brawler when it came to Barr or Fauci among others. He did more great things than other other president in the last 150 years, but got played repeatedly by the DOJ. He had numerous turncoats within the WH, cabinet and the executive at large. He faced insurmountable odds given the onslaught he endured and that makes me appreciate even more what a special man PDT is. That does not mean he always went down with a fight.
PDJT “got played repeatedly by the DOJ”????
What an odd way to describe Roadrunner Trump eluding 24/7/365/4 DC Wile E’s schemes to destroy him.
PDJT =/= get played.
PDJT played them all; and continues to do so.
Its suicidally foolish to “bare knuckle fight” when you can bait your adversaries into hoisting themselves on their own petered while you smile oh so sweetly.
Meep. MAGA. Meep.
Brawler Trump promised to get to the bottom of the secret JFK files and publicly release them, come what may. According to Ratcliffe, the CIA “pushed back” on the suggestion and Trump reneged. Was he threatened? The so-called brawl turned into a crawl.
If we’d had learned the extent of the deep state’s involvement in JFK it would have exposed the intel community. He should have gone thru with it.
Drumpfs brawl turned into a crawl”.
Die for me Daddy T. I want to be entertained.
Self absorbed, casually cruel, armchair neo antoinettes will hopefully wake up then quickly upgrade their survival instincts, threat awareness and sense of gratitude for the unbelievable, undeserved gift Gods given them.
Plus Ron is a horrible speaker, not quick on his feet and has no charisma.
He reminds me of a “Caddyshack” Country Club car salesman.
Who cares what this clown has to say. It’s ALL speculation. Wake me when someone ACTUALLY goes to jail.
“Who cares what this clown has to say”?
Mirror gazing? 😘
Does/did Joe know he was disposable? Jill? Hunter? If yes, did they agree to it? Or will the swamp double cross the Bidens as well? Joe could be caused to have a stroke and no one would be the wiser. Their is no honor amongst the 4th branch. What makes Joe,Jill or Hunter think they will fare any better than Jeff Epstein?
…or Andrew Cuomo!
The same thinking that lets him believe he won.
He’s the only one that does.
That whole brass ring thing is a real problem for some people.
I believe the Bidens know they are disposable. Remember when Obama said, “you don’t have to do this Joe.” Joe was corrupt enough out of all of the democrat candidates to be the place holder for the 2020 steal. His five decades of graft and corruption, plus his two years as the VP under the criminal Chicago Obama administration, made him the perfect candidate to participate in a stolen national election. I believe the Biden’s knew all along how the results were going to play out. They will slink away with a pardon for Hunter’s pay to play.
*his eight years as VP
Well, it depends on what Obama had him believing that he was suppose to do?????
I will always be guided by Obama’s believe in communism and it was when he said this, “There is nothing wrong with Communism, it just hasn’t ever been done right.” With that statement and Obama being in his 3rd term as President, although it is a secret LOL, we can see that Communism has been pushed along the road to full implementation in this country. We can thank Obama for that. Now, he is preparing another stooge so he can complete the task. Remember that!!!
Joe is USED to renegging on any agreement he makes, he’s done it, with EVERYONE, his whole life.
So, he very well COULD have agreed to one term, at the time he was installed, and then tried to reneg. It would be totally IN CHARACTER.
So, perhaps this IS just a foot being planted, firmly in his butt, and shoving/kicking him out of the door, to make room for Gavin, who has already measured for drapes.
TPTB really don’t CARE whether its GN or RDS, but they REALLY don’t want PDJT.
And they have no legal route available, to stop him, and -0- credibility in “the Court of Public Opinion”.
Character?
That is the reason for this current document dust up. The pervert and family have decided they want to two “terms”. The masters of all they survey are showing them who is in charge.
Funny, this comment by JM Clever was next up. I just told my husband that I don’t think Joe knows he was a resident stooge.
He probably doesn’t know that he is being blamed for helping the Communist take over Brazil. That nugget was posted on Gateway Pundit this morning.
Joe is so consumed with himself and his wealth that he doesn’t realize who or what he is!
Nothing is going to change. The get Trump at any cost will never end. I heard Lil Eddie ( Napolitano) on some program on RAV and he kept saying that what Trump had done was so much worse than Biden. The ‘bleepin’ lying of all these fake legal experts is sickening. The moral equivalency drawn is asinine and I guess they think we are too stupid to understand.
There will be no end to Orange Man Bad. I’ll tell this aholes one thing, their continued path only makes me support Trump more. And to be honest I probably disagree with Trump’s actions 25% of the time. But I will continue to support a man who gave up his life to help me, you, the country. You can’t ague that point. What other President came out of office poorer than he went into office? Maybe George Washington?
These manipulators don’t fool me. I try not to hear them live. I keep up with the continued onslaught by them but they annoy me tremendously.
That’s what libtards will never understand and because they are the party of identity politics. There’s too many repukelicans that don’t know their libtards too.
We chose who to hand power to to lead us based on OUR principals. They choose based on skin color, ethnicity and now, pride in their perversions. All only moral requirement is to hate everything good in this former Nation and despising God.
They’ll never wake up or they would have by now.
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BRAVO and AMEN!!!
John Adams and Calvin Coolidge
OT: Sundance could you re-pin the jab discussion thread back to the top? Many, many insightful comments are being posted. Over 3,900 worth. I’m afraid there are those who won’t scroll far enough down to reach it and I believe there are many more who would comment if it were more readily available.
I agree.
Biden is a disposable puppet.
Was he set up?
I think his handlers let the ole cornpop drop secret docs like cigarette butts knowing it all along.
The biden lawyer cleanup crew had an easy time finding the cigarette butt secret docs when told to begin the operation.
I do think the main objective was halting any republican house investigations.
If cornpop resigns the investigations will go forward maybe.
This means cornpop will need to be used a couple more years while Trump is still being investigated and persecuted and prosecuted.
Cornpop could be impeached but that will not help much.
Cornpop is a real asset to the deepstate until the 2024 election.
The deepstate cann’t afford to get rid of cornpop now.
Cornpop is worth more to them than he ever was.
if Slo Joe resigns he is then open to prosecution for his misdeeds and will be again once he is out of office for whatever reason…..kind of senseless his crimes predate his stolen office yet his occupancy prevents justice among other things
Do election-fraud charges count as being predating his office? Considering that was an enormous multi state conspiracy, can he be personally indicted as the ring leader?
He won’t resign. Obama might find out that Mammy Kammie could win over the liberals in this country and cause him more of a challenge than if he lets Biden ride into the sunset and he gets to pick his next stooge.
Watched talking heads this morning until I could stand no more. All of them talking about “intent”. Intent is not applied to mishandling of classified documents. The crime is committed without regard to intent. “Intent” is nowhere to be found in the statutes.
The documents were Ukraine and China how does Hunter play into this real question?
The Uniparty, both wings, will have less luck setting up the Gavin/Ron contest in 2024, than they had with the Hillary/Jeb, in 2016, and for the same reason.
Yep, I know just what you mean.
There was a republican debate near me in 2015 where jeb along with others were speaking, Trump was not there but many of his supporters were including me.
Before I parked I saw about 8 of jeb supporters near the curb holding a jeb bush for president banner.
I rolled down my window a yelled to them, jeb bush is a looser!
The looked astonished and stunned.
I’m sure they looked that same way as time went on and jeb the looser couldn’t rally any support.
Dull jeb was a looser from the start.
I was hoping to see Trump at the republican stage debate.
Jeb was an on stage looser.
Gavin/Ron might as well be on the same ticket.
The uniparty ticket.
Jeb might have been a looser, but he most certainly was a loser!
Thank you 😉
Biden is a political where who now has dementia. He’s the fall guy for the never-ending Obama tyranny.
*correction, that should read “political whore”
Don’t give odumbo so much credit. He is a tool too. He is not the puller of the strings.
The cabal is slowly opening the can of worms…on their schedule. It’s not enough to expose the docs…now they are leeching out elements of the secret dirty family business. They are DEAD SERIOUS that the puppet will NOT run in 2024. At this pace it looks like they are ready to take him out. Article below quoting info via NY Post:
Document: Hunter Listed $49,910 Monthly Rent Payments While Living at Joe Biden’s Residence
https://www.breitbart.com/crime/2023/01/15/document-hunter-listed-49910-monthly-rent-payments-while-living-joe-bidens-residence/
My guess is that the documents are illegal, surreptitious copies of briefing, analysis docs available to Biden et al during his time as VP. Given the early news reporting of topics about Iran, UK, China and Ukraine, and multiple TS/SCI classification, their subjects seem likely to correspond to areas of business/corruption/coercion/influence for the Biden Crime Syndicate.
Since the originals were likely accounted for by the Classified Doc custodians involved, no formal paper chase/audit would follow. BUT, those around Biden et al, KNEW of the criminal copies and who had them and made them, it was part of the insurance/control options for the powers behind the Puppet Show. As long as the Telepromter-In-Chief reads the scripts with passable levels of bumbiing, and the pretenses of actual Presidential Power he displayed were all ego-centric pretense for Jojo, the entire demokrat deep state played along with mere smug, knowing glances about who was really in charge. The Magic Kenyan visit to the White House and the video of Biden wandering alone trying to be noticed as Baraq gushed and backslapped, told it perfectly.
Then, as the reality of how much they were at risk, and how much more they could use the Presidency for personal gain drove the Biden’s to decide to break the deal that made them the Potemkin Village Administration, and announced a run for a second term, the very public hammer emerges. In the person of Garland, Obama’s own Supreme Court insert gone-wrong, suddenly displays the Iron Fist usually hidden behind the scenes. Bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, sequential discoveries, each after the sputtering KJP clown-show spouts “process…DOJ…White House Counsel…Ongoing Investigation” each time looking more and more bewildered as even the WH Press drones finally see the blood in the water. This has the symbolic effect of showing those cognoscenti in DC that big change is coming shortly…just wait for it. A bridled Cackle-Jackle, Big Mike, a Play to bring in Gov Hair Gel, a new face? Inquiring minds want to know!
I really liked Ratcliffe when he was in Congress.
I liked Meadows.
And I loved DeSantis. He was once humble… then he modeled himself after his mentor and used him to get elected governor.
Everyone who abandoned President Trump on January 6 are unworthy of a second thought, except being second or third tier of people who need to be investigated and jailed.
I’ve researched DeSantis recently.
Great governor.
JEB! was OK too.
Being a governor with a strange paucity of federal harassment sure makes you look like you’re MAGA without the Trump baggage.
I’m surprised that any Trump supporter considers anyone MADE by Trump who then would prove himself disloyal.
Before we get to the difference between governorship and presidency…
if you jump on the Lincoln Project/Paul Ryan/media/FBI bandwagon against Trump? No matter how you’re painted now, you’re not MAGA
If for whatever reason Trump is not nominated, who is your next choice?
HairGel is waiting to launch, in fact he’s likely behind these doc finds.
In 2024, the only choice for me, no matter what the Swamp does is:
Trump.
Father or son; Eric or Don.
Four more years or eight.
#MAGA2024=#TRUMP2024
CYA underway. This whole thing has Titanic written all-over it.
Sanity check here:
Who pays lawyers (who typically charge many hundreds of dollars per hour) to root through boxes in their garage or pack up and move their belongings in their various offices?
This whole narrative just sounds stupid.
Perhaps the lawyers were getting documents after getting a supoena for those documents?
What viewers are told may be a narrative spin around actual events that are intentionally misleading.
As PDJT calmly says, “lets see what happens”.
I was raised to believe that the pendulum always swung from one direction to the other. For most of my life, that did seem to be true. Now, in my 70th yr. of life, it no longer appears so. I could most definitely be wrong, however it now appears to be ‘two wings of the same bird’ and that the pendulum has broken. I hope I’m wrong because to my dismay it’s quite discouraging. Any ‘trust’ I once held in the ‘justice system’, the ‘health system’, or any ‘system’… has been destroyed over these past few yrs. . Perhaps, that may be a good thing for me personally, but not such a good thing for this world or our country.
2022 was my personal breaking point in this regard. The immigrant that killed my son in ’99 was charged with a 3rd degree felony of aggravated vehicular homicide, spent 3 yrs. in prison, and was then deported back to Columbia. In 2021, he hired attorneys to have his charges reduced so that he could return to this country. I fought like hell to advocate and avenge my son. In 2022, I lost. My son’s killer succeeded in having his charges reduced to a 1st degree misdemeanor for causing ‘physical harm’. That opens the door for his return, and because I am not permitted to be told one way or another, he may already be back.
I know there are good people still ‘fighting the good fight’ and I earnestly pray they succeed. However, for me, I only have one Hope and only One in Whom I trust.
PS. 20:7 Some people trust the power of chariots or horses, but we trust you, LORD God. (CEV)
The pendulum won’t swing when someone is holding it.
May the lord be with you Jude.
You ,your Son and your family will be in my prayers tonight.
Prayers are ALWAYS greatly appreciated. TY!
We wait for that Better Country. This one is on life support.
I find all of this so greatly distressing. I have been reading the ‘testimonies’ of those greatly injured and reading reports of those who have died for approx. 2 yrs. now. ..and I believe it’s only beginning. Of course, all such stories rarely make it to the main-stream media. But they can’t hide the collapse of a football start staggering and then dropping over on TV while millions are viewing (though I did view the ‘staggering’ part edited out in many ‘re-plays)’. The panic rush that resulted to ‘cover’ the cover-up was amazing to watch. Sadly, as more collapse, they will have to invent some ‘amazing phenomenon’ to explain it all. Anything BUT the Truth. Perhaps a suddenly uncovered ‘alien invasion’ will offer them cover.
Sorry…I meant to post this comment on the Neil Oliver post regarding the infamous jab.
Special Counsel Hur investigates Biden and says prosecutable crimes were likely committed. It’s a relatively quick 2 or 3 month investigation.
This leaves the door wide open for Jack Smith to indict Trump.
They kill two birds with one stone, metaphorically speaking.
Don’t forget Obama has thousands of records in a warehouse.
Just saying…
A comment on Breitbart asked: what if Obama planned them to keep Biden out of the 2024 election.
Think about it … only OBAMA had legal access to his Presidential classified documents … so … if VP Biden had some – did he steal them?
ALL Obama Classifieds had to be removed in 2015 BEFORE President Trump’s 2016 move into the Whitehouse.
The recent report that Obama has thousands of classified documents “stored” in an unsecured Chicago warehouse is interesting in that he’s been out of office for 6 years – why now? Did he just move them to the warehouse or did the activity of collecting Obama classifieds for a transfer to Biden properties
catch someone’s attention?
If none of this is correct … then where were the OBAMA classified documents originally stored from 2015? … we’re they moved – and who moved them ? Are there any cameras in or around the Penn Biden Office and Biden Delaware home? What dies the Secret Service know?
Poop – won’t let me correct
“planted” (1st para)
“were”&“does” (last para)
Yep- The minute Joe hinted he was running again, the Deep State Deep Sixed him. I do believe he carelessly took home top Secret dox (and kept some in his garage????) but if he had held to the unspoken bargain of being a one term President we probably never wold have learned about it. What I find fascinating is no one is discussing WHAT top secret dox he had: The first discovery mentioned papers about UKRAINE and CHINA…he took these 6 years ago when he left the White House….My memory is that 6 years ago Ukraine was barely on our radar: We were concerned with Iran, Iraq and Afghanistan….but UKRAINE and CHINA are where Hunter made his nefarious millions…Did Hunter have access to these dox? DId he share information with his foreign partners? SO many questions….
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Biden helped sink CIA nominee in 1970s with classified documents allegation
Jeremy Scahill
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https://theintercept.com/2023/01/13/biden-classified-documents-cia/
Here is a very important point to understand:
The targeting of Joe Biden first and foremost serves the interests of the FBI.
Just as Republicans are taking over the House and are opening investigations into the politicization of the FBI, this happens. That is not a coincidence.
Yes, Biden is disposable to the DC power structure. He is the perfect sacrificial lamb for the FBI to “prove” they don’t have a double standard. This actually gives them a free hand to go after Trump. All they have to do is also go after Biden. Two birds, one stone.
The end result is it will pull the rug out from under the House Republicans trying to prove bias in the FBI’s targeting of Trump. Once again, the Deep State wins.
I realized he was a one-term stooge from the first day of his stolen office when his EVERY action was unpopular with the unwashed masses and deleterious to the country. He could never be re-elected…in a fair election.
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