Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu representing Israel, and President Donald Trump representing the United States, apparently had a testy telephone call about ongoing Israeli strikes against Hezbollah attacks from Lebanon.
Iran, essentially IRGC control officers who now control the government, had previously said their terms for negotiation required Israel to stop strikes into Lebanon against their allies in Hezbollah. However, under the cover of that term, Hezbollah restarted rocket attacks from Lebanon against Israel. Yesterday, Israel began counter-attack operations against Hezbollah, which led to Iran saying the terms of the negotiation were now violated, and they would stop discussions with the USA.
[NOTE – This overall dynamic is very similar to Saudi Arabia coming under fire about a month ago, and their anger toward the USA for essentially saying Saudi had to accept the attacks so that diplomatic talks could continue. Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salmon rejected the expectation and challenged President Trump with Saudi allied base cooperation.]
Apparently, President Trump and Prime Minister Netanyahu had a strong discussion, some have leaked a very angered and open exchange, about Netanyahu launching strikes into Lebanon again.
On social media, it looks like this. Netanyahu put’s the Israel position via X:
[source]
President Trump responds to Netanyahu’s intentions with a phone call and then a follow-up on his Truth Social Account:
From leaks of the background conversation, a very testy narrative appears:
AXIOS – “President Trump lashed out at Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu over Israel’s escalation in Lebanon in an expletive-laden call on Monday, two U.S. officials and a third source briefed on the call told Axios.” {source}
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NY Post – President Trump reportedly tore into Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Monday, demanding the leader resist strikes on Hezbollah in an expletive-laden phone call.
The tense call came after Iran threatened to withdraw from negotiations with the US after Israel ordered strikes on terrorists in southern Beirut — with Axios reporting the president at one point asking, “What the f–k are you doing?”
“You’re f–king crazy. You’d be in prison if it weren’t for me. I’m saving your ass. Everybody hates you now. Everybody hates Israel because of this,” a US official told Axios, summarizing Trump’s comments.
Another source described Trump as sounding “pissed,” and claimed the president “steamrolled” the Israeli prime minister on the call. “Bibi said, ‘OK, OK, just make sure everything is taken care of,’” the second official said.
The president was reportedly aware Hezbollah had been firing on Israeli troops but concerned that Netanyahu was disproportionately escalating the situation — and potentially hurting US negotiations with Tehran.
Shortly after the call, Trump wrote in a post to Truth Social: “I had a very productive call with Prime Minister Bibi Netanyahu, of Israel, and there will be no Troops going to Beirut, and any Troops that are on their way, have already been turned back. (read more)
It is easy to see both sides in this dynamic.
It is also easy to see how Iran can manipulate the Hezbollah third-party aspect against Israel, as Iran previously did directly with attacks against Saudi Arabia. Iran demanding Israeli attacks against their friends in Hezbollah must stop in order to negotiate. When the attacks stop, Iran then tells their friends to attack Israel.
This is the duplicitous evil within the approach of Iran that Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States have previously said makes negotiations with Iran impossible.
Brent crude surged as much as 7.1% above $97.50 and WTI climbed over $94.50 per barrel on Monday, reversing recent declines. The rally was driven by fears over the Strait of Hormuz and potential closure of Bab el-Mandeb, both critical to global oil flows. Analysts warn that even with a deal, supply relief would be gradual, while disruptions could keep prices elevated despite weak demand in China and Europe.
Analysts outline two scenarios: a credible peace deal could trigger an immediate $20 per barrel drop as Gulf shipping resumes, or prolonged deadlock could push prices toward historic highs if chokepoints remain blocked. Iran’s leverage over Hormuz and demands for larger concessions suggest talks could drag on. With inventories falling and reserves depleting, a mid-year supply crunch looms if diplomacy fails {source}
I’m wondering how is
Israel’s ammo holding up?
Israel found LOADS of rockets and ammo in Hezbollah underground caves and tunnels in Lebanon.
I’m sure they did, but do the Israelis use the same calibers as the Hezbastards?
good question
I hope not good at all
serious question
who does Israel get their ammo from in addition to the US, if any?
They study American weapon systems and now make their own. Patriot Missile ==> Iron Dome.
I guess all those anti-semitic memes and things said about Trump can stop now, right?
Its like Ping Pong people are so easily led into the trap support Israel your a rascist dont support israel your a rasicst so in the end you have to defend yourself from the charge of racism and every real issue goes out the window. We all become Memes.
There are only 3 races of human beings. Just like there are only 2 sexes. Everything else is made up.
Snort. In my dreams.
“Some entity” does not want either the Iran or Ukraine war to end.
That old Deceiver, Satan.
That’s who is always the ultimate man behind the curtain
BINGO!!!
Satan works through his henchmen on earth. They are in every facet of government everywhere.
“This is London calling.”
Starmer and Chatham House need the Middle East in turmoil. Oops, was that a PUN?
..do not forget Ukraine too….
yes, and the only honest one in the bunch is President Trump
With both Hillary Clinton and John Brennan stating “If Trump can end the war in Ukraine, he deserves the Nobel Peace Prize” there is a good chance the fighting and will finance will continue until Trump leaves office. Hundreds of Thousands of people will die and Hundreds of Billions will be spent just to prevent Trump from getting credit for any of his numerous accomplishments.
I expect that when the truth about Zero emerges (soon and very soon) it will devalue the “peace prize” so that it’s on his level (zero).
There is always hope.
The globalist MIC finds both wars benefit their goals ideologically and financially. I think of the WEF among others as strong supporters. We see for ourselves how Zelenskyy is their pet project. They seem not to mind the Iranian terror regime either since they would not allow the US to use their own military bases in Europe to support the effort to remove Iran’s nuclear threat.
WEF as a subsidiary of the EU, or the other way around.
Europe wants the Ukraine war to distract its population from the Islam take over, and economic collapse.
DO NOT BE AFRAID…SPELL OUT !!!!!
What’s the point in going after the Iranian regime if you are going to allow it’s terror networks to continue to operate?
I like the way you are thinking but I have no clue.
UpVote. nor do I, but I wish I did! 🙂
What’s the point of starting a war with Iran which is not in US interests and hurts us economically?
the issue is not with the starting
but with the finishing
For 47 years Iran has been calling the USA the Great Satan and called for out destruction. Their sect of Islam wants to create the end of the world and the mullahs want to have it in their lifetimes.
The war is to prevent Iran from getting nuclear weapons and obliterating American and Israeli cities causing us to eradicate every Iranian in Iran and creating a radioactive cloud that will negatively affect every person on Earth.
Save your comment and keep posting it for all the likeminded people like Prisoner who pretend not to know what this is about and has been loudly and repeatedly stated by President Trump and Secretary Rubio. They just pretend not to hear, comprehend and understand basic English. That type of whining is really old.
I think it is in our best interest to eliminate an ongoing nuclear and terrorist threat and reshape the Middle East. If our interests coincide with Israel’s in this instance, and they are doing a lot of the heavy lifting, that’s pragmatic. However, the heart of the matter is the IRGC, and if it remains in power, the threat will merely regenerate and the Iranian people will continue to be crushed by a ruthless, bloody totalitarian regime.
To stop Iran from Nuking the entire west in order to ressurect the savior of islam?
wander..how all warmongers HERE are quiet regard ” rocket man” from North Korea…who got his nukes and “beautiful rockets” which as he say “can reach” California”….. I did not hear nothing from Bib… or VSGPDJT either….
Same with afghanistan, as a marine general once told me, we will lose, because we don’t have the public stomach for the body count required.
General Dan (Raising) Caine proved that wrong and did it in 2 weeks without a large body count. Realize the reason the USA has not declared or won a war since WWII is they are to make money for the military industrial system. They are not intended to end, rather to supply a constant flow of income.
Only because the EU wants us (the US) to fight the endless wars begun by their tribal hatreds each other and the desire to capture vast amounts of oil, gold, diamonds hiding out in Russia.
…..this is a precise reason why we never ever send troops to ..IRAN…they wait for us least 20 yrs….
Since President Trump stated position is no ten year wars
he backs surgical strikes on military targets
get in fast and get it done
I can only surmise that he is attempting to get other
countries to do their part
after all Iran having nuclear weapons
should scare the heck out of them all
supposedly…but, they might all have their own different agendas
most likely stemming from financial gain with the old regime
however, there is an old saying
“too many cooks in the kitchen…..”
my opinion would be to get it all over with
in as little time as possible
then install a new government
with the US overseeing everything
these people cannot choose
because they will end up with the same
geeeez…this is not UKRAINE 2014……. attempt do Nudelman’s color revolution …failed…miserable .with over 7 thousands ppl killed.
Iran is useing Hezzbala to play BeBe against PDJT. They been doing that for centuries.
Kids learn to play mom against dad & their siblings against both… it comes naturally.
If Mom and Dad have any common sense, they will put a stop to this game.
keep going up the chain….who is using Iran?
I have 5 Eyes that can point us in the right direction.
Actually, just one would do the trick for our purposes’! 🙂
Oh, really?!
Iran and Israel were friends until March 1979.
Iran was friends with lots of countries including the U.S. until then.
Technically, OUR POTUS has only reigned since 2017…. Just sayin’…. 🙂
Israel is using Lebanon to play Trump against stopping this ridiculous war.
BS. Israel has the permission of the Lebanese government to be in southern Lebanon.
I think Lebanon would like to toss out islam in all of its iterations, out too.
is this a joke of day ????
Wanker ALERT! But he has no hands… 🙁
Thank you, Sundance for again shoving the camel through the eye of the needle and giving us clear resolution of the challenges faced in this installment!
The Islamic Republic has NEVER cultivated civil reference points to enjoin constructive negotiations. They are rogue actors, a fatalistic death cult, and a bunch of crooks with billions in assets in England
They are like the rabies-infected Pit Bull terrorizing a neighborhood. You let them endure at the community’s expense.
Our POTUS is building a multilateral coalition to euthanize the afflictions of this suffering animal without killing it completely.
The Islamic Republic is the afterbirth of the co-mingling of Pan-Arabianism with EuroTrash monies, a disenfranchised Ayatollah, and failing imperial pretenses. The Persian peoples did not sign up for this shiiiite.
I for one, LOVE how our POTUS is now treating the IRGC’s recent entreaties as “boring,” knowing that the clock is ticking on the complete implosion of the Iranian economy.
Unfortunately, because of the continued dissolution of central leadership and ensuing decentralization of autonomous actors, this horrible plague upon the Iranian peoples will continue.
I can only offer prayers for the Iranian people and a dose of Ebola on the Luddites and Goat-breeders of the IRGC! 🙂
And this sage piece of advice to the IRGC: “You backed the wrong Goat!”
Any historical perspective on the tense relationship between the U.S. and Iran should extend back to the 1950s; this article offers a factual and balanced analysis of the events, all of which are sourced, chronological, and verifiable.
Context: The Nationalization of Iranian Oil
In the early 1950s, Iranian Prime Minister Mohammad Mossadegh, a nationalist figure and democratically elected leader, set out to nationalize the Iranian oil industry. This decision aimed to regain control of the country’s resources, which were then dominated by the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company (AIOC), a British-owned entity.
Motivations for the Intervention
Several factors prompted the United States and the United Kingdom to act against Mossadegh:
1. Economic interests: The loss of control over Iranian oil directly threatened British profits and, by extension, Western economic stability.
2. Cold War: Washington feared that instability in Iran and Mossadegh’s nationalism would pave the way for Soviet influence in the region.
3. Fear of setting a precedent: The successful nationalization of Iranian oil could have inspired other oil-producing countries to follow suit.
The CIA’s Role: Operation Ajax
In August 1953, the CIA (along with Britain’s MI6) launched Operation Ajax:
. Destabilization: A propaganda campaign, funding of opponents, and the creation of civil unrest to make Mossadegh appear unstable and dangerous.
. Coup d’État: A military uprising was organized, with American agents on the ground coordinating forces loyal to the Shah.
. Replacement: Mossadegh was arrested, tried, and placed under house arrest. Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, who had fled the country, was restored to power with expanded authority.
Why the Shah?
The Shah was a loyal ally of the United States for several reasons:
. He guaranteed Western access to Iranian oil.
. He modernized the country while maintaining an authoritarian and anti-communist regime.
. He served as America’s “policeman” in the Middle East.
Long-term consequences
This coup d’état left a deep mark on Iranian history:
. Lasting resentment: The Iranian people have never forgotten the foreign interference in their sovereignty.
. Repressive regime: The Shah’s dictatorship, supported by the United States, suppressed all opposition for 25 years.
. 1979 Revolution: This historic trauma directly contributed to the overthrow of the Shah and the hostage crisis at the U.S. embassy.
Persistent mistrust: U.S.-Iran relations remain marked by this defining event.
This intervention is now widely recognized as a tragic turning point that established a pattern of mistrust and hostility between the two nations, with repercussions that are still felt today.
THANK YOU!!! EXCEPTIONALLY WELL-ARTICULATED, Moshi, and ALL TRUE! I HOPE EVERYONE ON CTH READS YOUR POST!
Please consider that the USofA has been the somewhat, unwitting tool of the Euro-Trash (incl UnGreat Britain) for decades enacting our uninformed role as the World’s “Police Force.”
The globe, and Europe, in particular, have benefited from this era of “Pax Americana” since 1945, and has been afforded breathing room to grow and prosper at SIGNIFICANT COST TO THE US TREASURY AND OUR FUTURE WELL-BEING AS A NATION.
The Persian culture has been a beacon of achievement and civilization for eons. The unholy alliance of Trans-Arabia and Euro-Trash with the US as enablers has robbed Iran of its heritage, destiny., and compromised its future.
Hopefully, the Iranian people can find a way to restore their legacy as a singularly-unique culture! 🙂
I am simply stating the facts—all the facts, nothing but the facts—within their historical context, free from any preconceptions, propaganda, or ideology that cloud judgment.
Mossadegh was a National Socialist and was overthrowing the government. You left that part out.
Every great culture has a brain-fart now and again! 🙂
No detail should be overlooked. You’re right.
Mossadegh, who came from a very wealthy family of landowners, was democratically elected/appointed as prime minister in 1951.
His nationalist vision could be summarized, somewhat boldly, as putting Iran’s interests first and making Iran great again. That should give us pause for thought.
Mossadeghism is a political doctrine and a set of policies championed by Mohammad Mossadegh, Iran’s democratically elected prime minister from 1951 to 1953.
This policy, which blended Iranian nationalism with constitutional democracy, aimed to secure Iran’s sovereignty and economic independence following the Anglo-Soviet occupation of 1941–1946. This goal was to be achieved through various measures, notably the 1951 nationalization of the vast natural resources held by the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company (AIOC), a British oil company.
Economic Self-Determination
Mossadegh was convinced that true political independence was impossible without economic independence. The 1951 Nationalization Act put this principle into practice, rejecting the concession system that had historically benefited foreign powers at the expense of the Iranian state
Anti-Imperialism and Non-Alignment
Mossadeghism was a powerful anti-imperialist movement whose main objective was to eliminate Britain’s pervasive influence and, later, to resist pressure from the United States and the Soviet Union at the onset of the Cold War. It pursued a policy of “negative balance,” meaning that Iran refused to make concessions to any foreign powers rather than maintaining a balance between concessions made to rival powers.
Social Reform and Justice
This ideology incorporated elements of social democracy. Mossadegh’s reforms included measures to protect workers, the establishment of mandatory unemployment insurance, and the transfer of land from the Shah’s estate to the public domain in order to improve farmers’ living conditions. These reforms aimed to establish a fair and equitable distribution of the national wealth generated by the oil industry.
National Front
The main political organization that propagated and implemented Mosaddeghism was the National Front. Founded in 1949, it was a broad coalition that united various groups, including liberal democrats, non-communist socialists, moderate conservatives, and secular nationalists, to achieve the common goal of protecting the constitution and nationalizing oil.
Decline and Legacy
Mosaddeghism was forced to come to an end in 1953 by the U.S. CIA and the British MI6 following the 1953 Iranian coup d’état. Its overthrow restored Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi to absolute power and put an end to progressive experiments
A lasting legacy and impact
Mosaddeghism remains one of the most significant and influential political movements in modern Iranian history.
More on Ajax : In planning the operation, the CIA organized a guerrilla force in case the communist Tudeh Party seized power as a result of the chaos created by Operation Ajax. According to formerly “Top Secret” documents released by the National Security Archive, Undersecretary of State Walter Bedell Smith reported that the CIA had reached an agreement with Qashqai tribal leaders in southern Iran to establish a clandestine safe haven from which U.S.-funded guerrillas and intelligence agents could operate.
Operation Ajax was the first time the Central Intelligence Agency orchestrated a plot to overthrow a democratically elected government. The success of this operation, and its relatively low cost, encouraged the CIA to successfully carry out a similar operation in Guatemala a year later.
Widespread dissatisfaction with the oppressive regime of the reinstalled Shah led to the 1979 Islamic Revolution in Iran and the occupation of the U.S. embassy. The role that the U.S. embassy had played in the 1953 coup led the revolutionary guards to suspect that it might be used to play a similar role in suppressing the revolution.
The leader of Operation Ajax was Kermit Roosevelt, Jr., a senior CIA agent, and grandson of the former U.S. President Theodore Roosevelt. While formal leadership was vested in Kim Roosevelt the project was designed and executed by Donald Wilber, a career contract CIA agent and acclaimed author of books on Iran, Afghanistan and Ceylon.
As a condition of restoring the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company the U.S. was able to dictate that the AIOC’s oil monopoly should lapse. Five major U.S. oil companies, plus Royal Dutch Shell and French Compagnie Française des Pétroles were given licences to operate in the country alongside AIOC.
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Meh. The legacy of ashes and all that. All this alt history stuff rests on a huge assumption, that everything would just be roses, but for the post war activity of the Agency by the ‘greatest generation.’ Winning the cold war was paramount, and all this alt history, is the monday morning look back. The soviet system was doomed from the start, yada, yada.
And everyone thinks Trump is taking too long to unwind all of that, in a world of actors aligned to stop him.
That is a bunch of sophistry and propaganda. Israel/USA started this war.
I am struggling to comprehend and LITERALLY speechless at your post, Prisoner. For Heaven’s Sake, get out of your cell and SMELL THE ROSES!!!
That being said:
Can I recommend some highly therapeutic bath salts for your daily regimen? And “The Idiot’s Guide to Posting Intelligible Commentary” as bedside reading?
With Liberty and Justice for All…. 🙂
Iran has been calling for the total destruction of the USA and Israel for 47 years. They were about to create nuclear weapons in order to achieve that goal. NO, Iran started this war, we are just ending it.
Guards coming must be shower time.
Circling back….. WANKER ALERT! The smell of Goat Hormones is STRONG with this one! 🙂
I understand the President’s desire to make a deal, but the longer this “hot ceasefire” draws out, the more things will begin to unravel.
As some have said, it was foolish to allow the actions of a terrorist group in Lebanon to dictate the terms and pace of negotiations to end Iran’s nuclear ambitions. Hezbollah was never going to abide by any agreement, and as Sundance has posted above, the Iranians know that as Hezbollah is acting in full accord with Iran’s desire to wait the U.S. side out. Dragging the ceasefire out this long, allowing it to be tied to what is happening in Lebanon, was a bonehead move on the administration’s part. The effect on energy prices in the U.S., and its downstream effect on the prices of almost everything else, is creating a war fatigue among the American public as one day we’re close while the next day it’s blowing up, so that when the time comes to go hot again, it becomes that much harder to do as prices then spike as we “finish the job” that should have been finished already but was not. .
There is no scenario in which I will fault Israel for responding to rocket attacks by terrorists “disproportionately.” If Mexican cartels began lobbing hundreds, or even dozens, of rocket attacks into Los Angeles or San Diego. does anyone think for one moment that the U.S. response would be a “proportionate” one? Does anyone doubt the ensuing outrage of the American public, let alone Trump himself? And if the U.N. got together to vote and that vote asked the U.S. to show “restraint” in its response, the American public would likely burn the building down. It’s absurd to expect a country to treat lightly continued missile attacks on its citizens.
As I’ve posted before, Israel seems to be the only country in the world that is expected to routinely suffer attacks on its cities or risk condemnation. Hundreds of Israelis were massacred on 10/7/2023 and most of the world yawned. There was no collective outrage against Hamas for its brutal attack and taking of civilian (even babies!) hostages. But once Israel began to respond, then the rest of the world began to find its outrage and anti-semitism was in vogue again.. But the outrage was not against the attacker, Hamas, but against the country that had suffered the violation, Israel!
Saudi Arabia was right. It’s preposterous to expect other countries to become punching bags to enemy missiles to maintain the illusion of the U.S. making a deal that Iran clearly does not want to make. And it’s the same for Israel and its dealings with Hezbollah. If this is the train of thought that Trump is stuck on in his deal-making, then he has erred – bigly.
You cannot compensate one Israeli or Gulf State family for the loss of a loved one because Trump maintains the illusion that he is still dealing with rational people. Not one of those countries owes that to Donald Trump, whatever he may think to the contrary.
J
“The worst thing you can possibly do in a deal is seem desperate to make it.”
~ Donald J Trump
A worst thing you can do it to start a war not in our interests, raise gas prices much, and expect the public to support you.
WANKER ALERT! I can’t believe you got three upvotes…. My BAD, you must have three or four goats with I-Phones… 🙂
Now 4 upvotes. The site Goat Herpes is spreading… 🙂
I’ll keep upvoting you, MAGA HB !
The “war” is most assuredly in our interest and the safety of mankind!
I’ve been a Trump supporter since way before he came down the escalator.
My craft is sales & negotiating.
Persians are nearly impossible to deal with adversariously.
Even in a fight, as you’re plunging your 9″ knife into his chest, he’s looking at you and telling you that he’s winning because you’re doing what he wanted you to do.
I’m praying that PDJT is truly the best negotiator however…..
✝️😉🇺🇲
I have dealt with Persians quite comfortably over the years with facts, control of my wallet, and embarrassing them with command of undeniable truths. They enjoy negotiating, but SO DO I! 🙂
I have my late grandparents’ Kerman-Persian oriental carpet. They bargained, had fun, bought themselves more than just a beautiful rug.
So then what, the Straight is not closed?
Isn’t Trump the one saying multiple times daily how much we are winning?
WANKER ALERT. EVERYONE, PLEASE protect your goats!!! 🙂
The IRGC are not Persians.
Patience, Persistence, Perseverance, and Prayers will Prevail! 🙂
I’ve got a handful of Persian Gulf nations that would be willing to say that they are also experiencing losses FAR BEYOND those sustained by Israel. I have not seen any premier petroleum or desalination plants struck along the Mediterranean coast recently.
Iran is a Middle Eastern problem. The USA is trying to do a solid for the globe. Our POTUS is expending limited American Resources trying to fix Arabian, European, and Asian problems.
The fact that the IRGC is a bunch of A$$holes is a matter of public record. A simple THANK YOU is warranted here from anyone who is NOT a US Taxpayer. 🙂
Give us a laugh, cite one problem Iran causes us, before we surprise attacked them during negotiations.
How about Trump fix our USA? He promised no new wars.
Oh sure blah blah blah so and so is an ass blah blah blah.
The issue is Iran getting a nuclear weapon. I suggest that is also a US issue.
What?……..
You using the term “us” implies you are a cognizant adult. Your demeanor suggests otherwise.
I can think of 240 dead Marines and Sailors in Beirut to open ANY discussion on the artificial Islamic Republic.
The IRGC is a bunch of women and goat-molesting pussies. Alexander steam-rolled Persia when he determined that Persia made GREAT prayer rugs but had no gravitas as fighters.
American memories are long, but your time on this site is VERY short!
Hasta la vista, and NEVER FORGET… Jesus loves you! 🙂
Israel’s not reporting much of the damage. It would be just too demoralizing for an already traumatized population.
Civilians. Constant red alerts, disabled and elderly people are injured by falls in the rush to get to shelter in sometimes fewer than 20 seconds. Heart attack, stroke, PTSD to the max. Dead and wounded everyday.
Everyone has close kin/friendships who’ve suffered casualties. But Israeli faith in the Lord is rock-solid. That’s why they can tolerate such burdens.
So then, does escalation unravel things? You prefer escalation to a ceasefire? War is not an unraveling? That was a very poor choice of words, which causes your post to fail immediately.
Israel/USA started this war. You evaded that.
Israel’s aggression should not be a condition for the end to hostilities? Israel is in Lebanon, taking land, stating that as a goal. Hezbollah is not in Israel, not threatening to seize Israeli land.
Oh how horrible that the ceasefire is being dragged out. You zionist fans are the boneheads here. I hope you are not suffering too much during this peace period.
Escalation leads to more destruction of oil facilities, and higher oil prices. You folks get it completely wrong, because, you are more interested in what Israel/neocons want than stability. Israel/Trump caused the price crisis.
There is no scenario in which I will support Israel’s invasion of Lebanon.
The ideas you present in your propaganda piece have no chance for peace, which should be the rational goal of any USA first, MAGA, or conservative. person. Your ideas serve Israel and only Israel.
WANKER ALERT! Someone has taught a goat how to post in this website! 🙂
Thank you for your post. Excellent!
The key is controlling the Strait of Hormuz. Do we have air superiority or air supremacy over Iran. I know defending against drone attacks is difficult, but can we not escort tankers thru the straits especially if we own the skies?
For every drone attack, carpet bomb Iran. Heck, use daisy cutters & MOABs wherever their military is. Iran is led by religious zealots who follow a religion where their god says it’s ok to lie (taqiyya) and we know who the father of lies is. They can never be trusted. But they can be beat into submission.
However, if we do control the Strait and capture every Iranian tanker, then the global financial pressure will ease (psychologically at least) and if Iran cannot sell their oil, their country will collapse within a few months.
So, you want our USA to kill millions of people, for Israel? Is that sane?
Try to recall, Trump said we would open the Straight, with our Navy, but the Navy said no, and backed off. Were you paying attention?
Oh please send Hegseth your ideas.
LARP! 🙂
What a WANKER! 🙂
This is not about killing for ‘The Jews”. It is about saving the world from a man made nuclear holocaust.
What the hell is Israel supposed to do when Iran is using Hezbollah to attack Israel now?
There have been non stop rocket and drone salvos.
If Hezbollah wont stops using rockets and drones to attack Israel then Israel has every right to fire back.
They have found caves and tunnels full of rockets and ammo
Would America sit still and not fire back if Canada or Mexico did this?
IMO Iran has dug its heels in and will NOT give up its nuclear material ever or stop its arming and inciting proxies to attack Israel.
Iran will NOT sign a peace treaty ever.
Iran freed up the internet on the weekend and Iranians have been posting pictures of the IRGC attacks against people
It is horrific.
4h ago
@Osint613
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Strong Hezbollah attack right now. Much deeper. Trump spoke to Hezbollah, Hezbollah said they will “stop shooting”
https://nitter.poast.org/Osint613/status/2061579024669835471#m
Never trust a Mudslime.
The only good ones are dead Mudslimes or apostates (if Mudslimes havent murdered them too)
They are THE most awful people on earth.
They thrive on sex and jihad.
And violating defenseless goats… 🙂
Have you ever looked at Gaza pictures?
Have YOU ever looked in a mirror? WANKER! 🙂
..are you 10 yrs old ?????
Too many leakers. Who in the hell are leaking the President’s phone calls? Catch them, can them.
My guess is that the corrupt IC are illegally listening in to President’s phone calls.
If Trump had been a real leader, and got his corrupt DOJ to do its job, leaks would be stopped.
LARP! 🙂
WANKER and Readily Flushable Poster! 🙂
At this point, wouldn’t it save you posting time to just come out and say “I don’t like Donald Trump” as to continually snipe from the sidelines?
One of the keys to successful seminar calling/posting is to learn this pharase: “less is more!”
If you can take that thought in, and apply it to all your efforts, then your posts will seem more organic and you’ll likely have, if not more success, then at least more credibility.
J
Axios is an enemy op.
(Sea-Eye-Ay?)
Axios is an enemy op.
(Sea-Eye-Ay?)
Iran is not going to give up the enriched uranium. They are going to continue lying and delaying. Just saw the NY Post report that Iran is reopening the ballistic missile silos that were covered up in earlier US Israel bombing. It’s a big responsibility to order more bombing and the President knows far more than we do, but I honestly believe it’s time to use the intelligence the US has gathered during the ceasefire and release the kracken.
What did Iran lie about? Come on, tell us!
Iran said it will not give up the uranium, which you also stated.
Every day Trump says 2 or more different things, are those lies?
Every day YOU are here to defend the slaughter committed by Hamas. You ARE a prisoner of your own hate.
LARP! 🙂
WANKER! 🙂
How do you get rid of cockroaches? You must exterminate them. In WW2, we obliterated their armed forces; and we will have to the same in Iran or it will be one one more drone, one more missile, one more chemical weapon, one more nuke, etc.. Europe no longer has the will to exterminate terrorists. Israel does. America…?
We do not have to do anything. How about supporting the USA first?
LARP! 🙂
and WANKER, with a touch of Goat seasoning! 🙂
Ebrahim Azizi, chairman of Iran’s parliamentary National Security Committee: ‘If the attacks against Lebanon are not completely halted, dark days await the Zionist regime and American forces in the region. They themselves know full well that this is not a threat; our fingers are on the trigger.
https://nitter.poast.org/Osint613/status/2061514632439718114#m
@Osint613
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Qalibaf in conversation with Nabih Berri: Our lives and yours are one, and the bond between Iran and Lebanon is unbreakable. In the past two days, we have seriously pursued a halt to Israel’s attacks. If the crimes continue, not only will we stop the negotiation process, but we will also stand against the Zionist regime. We are determined to establish a ceasefire across all of Lebanon, especially in the south of the country. If an agreement to end the war between Iran and the United States is reached, it will include a cessation of attacks on all fronts, particularly Lebanon. Speaker of the Lebanese Parliament: Lebanon will never forget Iran’s positive stances in this sensitive stage.
https://nitter.poast.org/Osint613/status/2061555780155830686#m
Iran is going to have to be destroyed. They will never abide by any deal.
This is not an opinion or a bias, but simply a factual, sourced, and verifiable historical observation: how many UN resolutions has Israel complied with?
Since its creation in 1948, the State of Israel has been the subject of numerous United Nations resolutions, primarily from the General Assembly and the Security Council. The exact number of resolutions varies depending on the counting criteria, but it is estimated that there have been several hundred, the majority of which concern the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, the occupied territories, Jerusalem, the settlements, and Palestinian rights.
As for Israel’s compliance with these resolutions, the situation is complex. A number of resolutions, particularly those of the Security Council, were adopted under Chapter VII of the United Nations Charter, making them legally binding. However, Israel has often contested their legitimacy or applicability and has refused to implement them in several major cases.
Here are some key examples:
Resolution 242 (1967): Adopted after the Six-Day War, it calls for the withdrawal of Israeli armed forces from the occupied territories. Israel has not fully complied with this resolution, although it has withdrawn its forces from certain territories (such as the Sinai Peninsula following the Camp David Accords) and has accepted the principle of “land for peace.” However, it has not evacuated the West Bank, East Jerusalem, the Golan Heights, or Gaza (prior to 2005).
Resolution 338 (1973): Calls for a ceasefire and the implementation of Resolution 242. Israel observed the ceasefire but did not implement the territorial provisions of the resolution.
Resolution 446 (1979): Declares that Israeli settlements in the occupied territories are illegal and calls for their cessation. Israel has not ceased settlement activity and has even intensified settlement construction.
Resolution 478 (1980): Condemns Israel’s annexation of East Jerusalem and declares null and void the Israeli Basic Law designating Jerusalem as its unified capital. Israel has ignored this resolution and maintains its sovereignty over East Jerusalem.
Resolutions on Gaza and Lebanon: Several resolutions (e.g., 1701 of 2006 on Lebanon, or 1860 of 2009 on Gaza) have been partially complied with, but often violated through military incursions or blockades.
In summary: Israel has complied with certain resolutions (notably those concerning ceasefires or bilateral agreements, such as those with Egypt and Jordan), but it has systematically rejected or circumvented resolutions addressing settlement activity, the status of Jerusalem, the return of Palestinian refugees (Resolution 194), and Palestinian sovereignty. According to reports from the UN and numerous international organizations, the majority of key resolutions have not been fully implemented by Israel.
It is important to note that failure to comply with UN resolutions is not unique to Israel: many member states, including major powers, have ignored or violated UN resolutions.
However, in the case of Israel, the number of unfulfilled resolutions is particularly high due to the protracted nature of the conflict and the political deadlock.
Moshi You are craftily using those UN resolutions to pin the blame on Israel. Please go back in your tunnel under a hospital. Your antisemitism rots your thinking.
Yet you refuted NOTHING.
LARP (and a Wamker!) 🙂
Quick question, what is this thing called “the six day war”?
Looks like AI.
Golly gee, Moshi, I pegged you as an decent Iranian nationalist. Now you are outside your lane dumping all over a small nation with 10% of Iran’s population and 20% of Iran’s land size…
What are we, at the Conservative Treehouse, to make of your postings?
Would you like to sit down with me and do some face-to-face discussions/negotiations?
In our world, Jesus LOVES you!!! 🙂
You failed to refute a single thing Moshi wrote. You had your chance and failed.
WANKER! 🙂
To Terry Anderson and MAGA Happy Boy
I’m surprised by your comments.
I present sourced, chronological, verifiable facts.
What bothers you? The facts? Reality?
Do you prefer to live with your own assumptions and ingrained beliefs, or with narratives imposed by mainstream opinion?
You have every right to succumb to them.
Personally, I prefer the presentation of facts and the connections between them. That is why I am an avid reader of Sundance’s publications. It is his consistent approach, particularly regarding the inner workings of the Washington, D.C., swamp, the CIA, the FBI, and the Democrats’ lawfare…
Understanding the driving forces of history is an urgent necessity, even if factual truths shock you or disrupt your deeply held beliefs.
I encourage you to explore the Sumerian, medieval, and modern “disputatio,” a close cousin of the Pilpoul.
Like you, I am a human being in search of truth.
Lies are flexible; truth is immutable, and the reminder of history helps to bring it to light.
I love Jesus too.
Sorry, Moshi, you have out-stayed my welcome! 🙂
I assume you are a good American citizen who respects the Constitution, particularly its First Amendment regarding freedom of opinion, expression, and belief….
It is therefore surprising that you have difficulty accepting viewpoints that seem to upset you.
Free speech seems to be a one-way street for you. It is only granted if one agrees with your beliefs or opinions. Paradoxical, isn’t it?
Controversy, which is essential in advanced civilizations, requires the presentation of well-supported arguments.
No dismissals or invective.
This is my point of view; it may not correspond to yours.
Show me your US passport, Goat Violator, and then we can talk as adults. I would be DELIGHTED to go chapter and verse on the incompatibility of Islam with Free Speech. We can do some coffee, discuss your relationship(s) with your siblings and cousins (male and female), and go from there.
Your tent or mine… 🙂
The Prophet made a point of never being ungracious in the face of hospitality. He would be ashamed of you.
Despite that, I am willing to offer you the finest coffee from my Magic Chalice. 🙁
“Understanding the driving forces of history is an urgent necessity,” Yes I agree with this part. I understand those driving forces.
“even if factual truths shock you or disrupt your deeply held beliefs.” You use half truths. Long Live Israel. Long Live Persia.
Yet you lack any comprehension of the deals or negotiations, instead, you revert to fulfilling Israel’s desires.
Silly Wanker! 🙂
The longer the Straights of Hormuz are closed, the greater the chance we have of exposing and defeating the Environmental Hoax propogated by our Western Elites.
Trump is the best President in my lifetime but I do think that his weakness is to sometimes trust those that aren’t really his friends. I think getting involved in Iran especially before the mid-terms was one of those times. I hope it doesn’t sink the agenda. Still waiting for traitors to be held accountable as well.
A BIG HEART embraces ALL Sometimes that heart needs a filter! 🙂
Thank you for reality.
Trump’s decision to attack Iran was an incredibly bad decision, and also poorly timed.
This term started with his failure to go after the swamp. Insiders knew Bondi/Blanche would to NOTHING. So we went from that betrayal, with the DOJ, to this betrayal, attacking Iran.
And you, my “friend” are a short-termed phenom and lifetime WANKER! 🙂
+++
𝐃𝐀𝐒𝐇𝐀 𝐁𝐔𝐑𝐍𝐒 𝐎𝐍 𝐒𝐏𝐄𝐂𝐈𝐀𝐋 𝐑𝐄𝐏𝐎𝐑𝐓: 𝐓𝐑𝐔𝐌𝐏 𝐂𝐎𝐔𝐋𝐃 𝐂𝐋𝐎𝐒𝐄 𝐀𝐍 𝐈𝐑𝐀𝐍 𝐃𝐄𝐀𝐋 “𝐎𝐕𝐄𝐑 𝐓𝐇𝐄 𝐍𝐄𝐗𝐓 𝐖𝐄𝐄𝐊”
So Dasha Burns says in the report that Trump wants to score a few more points before closing on the deal.
I’m beginning to wonder if the whiplash isn’t by design….
But by Trump, not Iran.
He said a few weeks ago there were still some things he wanted taken care of (more targets destroyed?) Before reaching a deal.
And every time Iran agrees to some demands…Trump rejects the deal and counters with even more demands. He has done this about three times.
No one knows what is going on behind the scenes. And, it does sound like the Israel/Hezbollah issue caused Trump some indigestion with the negotiations. I just think there are many things going on we are not aware of.
A few weeks ago I read that an Iranian leader expressed frustration with Trump because every time they agreed on something….Trump would come back with more demands.
Just a few days ago there was a professor from the Columbia University at Qatar who flat out said that it was Trump who was stalling the peace agreement, not Iran.
So, I am not alone in this thinking.
Considering Trump’s multiple daily erratic statements, his bragging and threats, it is clear his behavior is not stable.
Iran has made its conditions clear, not changing them.
Fog of war, you don’t understand DJT and how he operates
You come out of your hole at the right time every time
Quite a few of you do, hope the 2c a word is lucrative for ya
WANKER! 🙂
You may well be right but I would never trust anyone who ‘teaches’ at Columbia.
Trump has turned this fiasco into a daily soap opera, it is very irritating. He has to know his credibility is down far.
Backbencher with raw fingers. We see ya
WANKER! 🙂
Iran blockaded the Strait of Hormuz on February 28. This is day 93. President Trump is correct, that negotiating a deal with Iran is the quickest way to open the Strait and bring the price of oil back down, and this is a policy correct in itself and correct in light of the midterm elections in November. Since April 7, we have been negotiating with Iran.
But to put this in perspective, on Nov. 4, 1979, Iran took our embassy and seized 66 Americans as hostages. 52 were held until Jan 20, 1981, 444 days. President Carter tried everything with them. Negotiations. Sanctions. Back channels. Desert 1. The leaders of Iran hated President Carter so much, they held onto the hostages until just minutes after he left office, and President Reagan was sworn in.
Do the Iranians intend to hold the Strait of Hormuz closed until Jan 20, 2029? Do they want to put us through a couple years of recession and gas lines, like the 1970s? They appear to be getting their oil out: an Iranian supertanker with 2 million barrels just went through Hormuz bound for China, and we let it pass. Do we think they can’t hold out with our reverse blockade? They are getting supplied with food from Russia, and shoulder fired anti-aircraft missiles from China, among other things.
I don’t think President Trump wanted to stop the war on April 7. But he did, and it was stopped, because we were on the verge of winning, decisively. Not because we were losing. Can the war be resumed? Maybe it can’t be resumed, on our part. For whatever reason. Certainly, we could have sent the Marines to reopen the Strait of Hormuz quickly and effectively, but we have not done so in all this time. So maybe there is good reason we do not do so.
Since today Iran has announced it has suspended negotiations with us, it can be assumed our opposites there, the Foreign Minister, Parliament Speaker, and President are no longer in power. The IRGC has taken full control of Iran, away from the Mullahs, and the Government. Will this change President Trump’s approach? It should. Now it can be said they really don’t want to make a deal after all.
Any idea who got paid for that oil?
It is not possible that the marines could open the Strait at all. We cannot get ships in there. Our marines would be killed.
Iran seems to be willing to keep the Straight closed as you wrote. We have no good way of opening it.
Look at this slop of a post. Ha
WANKER and Unadulterated Lover of Goats! 🙂
It would appear MBS will not permit bases on sacred Arab soil to be used as staging areas for attacks on Iran, especially ground forces. The Gulf Kingdoms, Saudi, and the Arabs in Iran are all connected through family ties. It goes back to old Ibn Saud, who worked under the protection of the British Foreign Office, to unite the Arab tribes by alimony. He started by marrying three different women, from three different tribes, then every year he would divorce one and marry another, eventually uniting all the tribes in marital relationships to him. He had 50 sons.
So, none of the Gulf states will work with us to launch attacks on Iran from their soil, because we would in effect be attacking their cousins. It makes supporting ground troops hard to do. And, to open Hormuz, we need ground troops to clear out the emplacements on the Iranian shoreline and destroy the speed boat nests.
“They are getting supplied with food from Russia, and shoulder fired anti-aircraft missiles from China, among other things.”
Where are you getting this from?
May 30, Jerusalem Post, “U.S. investigators concluded the F-15 was shot down by a Chinese-made missile.”
Mar 27, Moscow Times, “Humanitarian aid from Russia has arrived in Iran.”
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This disagreement, however sharp or loud it may have been, seems to put the lie to the leftist MSM construct pushed over the past months that Trump was in Netanyahu’s hip pocket, wouldn’t it?
Both have the needs of their own countries to promote and defend and those needs are not always the same. So disagreement will happen and the leaders will occasionally have sharp words over the phone. That is not necessarily a bad thing. Maybe even healthy for the long-term relationship. The MSM needs to stuff it.
Israel’s control of Trump is discussed well outside of leftist circles. The indications of it are conclusive.
You already decided it is not true. I suggest you wait and see what Trump does. Notice he has not made any deal, and Israel is totally against any deal. Israel has stated many times is opposes negotiations, so please do not try to tell us otherwise.
Go away man. Stop. Ask for more Pennie’s from your Actblue/rino employer
Wanking Goat Lover! 🙂
It’s disheartening to read such flimsy arguments—they sound like the kind you’d hear in seedy bars late at night, when drunken banter boils down to “hold my beer” and “I’m gonna kick your ass.”
We’re not exactly raising the bar with comments like these.
Mushi, you jackasses set the bar when you decided to post on this site. We are just delivering the bacon. 🙂
Thank you, Sundance!
Praying!
As an Iranian, I fully stand with our Israeli friends and Prime Minister Netanyahu.
Bibi joon, finish the job.
Terrorists can’t be negotiated with, they can only be destroyed. @netanyahu
https://nitter.poast.org/Sepehrr55/status/2061589579283734693#m
Islam is not to be trusted…EVER!
They are taught to lie to the infidel.
Islam is a hateful ideology based on domination and subjugation, disguised as a “religion”, so as to prey on western tolerance.
Convert, submit, or die is their mantra. They are not here to assimmilate, only to conquer.
Islam is a pestilence on the earth.
“Negotiating a deal” with them is a fool’s errand.
It’s amazing that people here are buying what the media is saying.
The trolls are salivating.
President Trump is working for us and for peace. He will never deal that is bad for us.
Everyone who disagrees with your sycophancy is apparently a troll. I voted for Trump three times and donated the equivalent of a very expensive German car to his campaigns. That doesn’t obligate me to suspend judgment. So far, aside from the spectacle and circus, his presidency hasn’t been a stellar success. Not even remotely.
You’re entitled to disagree, and that’s why we have this place for conversations, not empty attacks.
I am referring to real trolls, they know who they are, and we have been seeing their reactions here, ever since Fuentes, Tucker, Kelly, Owens, declared war on MAGA.
That is a laugh, Trump gave us a very bad deal, high gas prices.
Put a sock in it – act blue plantation slave
Lost Wanker in Search of a Goat! 🙂
The gas prices were high under Biden. President Trump lowered it by opening production.
If Hezbollah attacked and killed Americans at their bases, would PDJT be so restrained?
Didn’t he threaten Iran with utter destruction if a single hair on an American was harmed by them?
Sometimes I think PDJT believes he is negotiating with people similar to the ones he’s negotiated with his whole life, rather than an Inbred 7th Century Savage Death Cult.
Iran is doing everything possible to delay an agreement. Fast approaching mid-terms will shackle the President. By then it’ll be too late.
Iran has lasted this long because both the Eurotrash and Democrats implicitly supported Iran, by not backing PDJT. With the mids fast approaching, many squishy Repubs (RINOS) will join that lot. Then the Iran excursion will be a loss.
It’s a very human blind spot to assume that your opponent shares your moral framework, logic, or basic assumptions. That’s rare even among people from the same or similar background. Just look at our inability to make a deal with the left.
In Trump’s case, he’s dealing with Middle Eastern Muslim savages, and approaching that as a normal Western-style negotiation is insane.
We are the USA, we are supposed to act in the interests of the USA. I fully expected a USA first president to act like one, but he did not.
Yo can try to deflect all you want, it goes nowhere, Trump caused this war, and he will suffer for it.
You are a paid backbencher.
Almost missed this one… WANKER… not a back-bencher, simply a back-door conveyance and an early morning source of amusement and abuse. Have you hugged your goat lately? 🙂
Any sane oerson knows you can’t make peace with what are called leaders in iran.
So it just a continual farce about making a peace deal.
Think trip to mars.
2 to 3 years and near dead from radistion yet we are told by some its going to happen.
Both not possible.
Any sane person knows you cannot surprise attack a nation during negotiations, not in out interests, know gas prices will shoot up, and expect a good result.
Wanker missing his goat! 🙂
WATCH: At the Jerusalem Post Conference in New York, Amjad Taha revealed that Iran launched over 2,800 drones and missiles at Jordan on February 8, targeting mosques, hospitals, and children.
While Western protesters are quick to condemn Israel, many stayed silent when Iran was the aggressor. The double standard is impossible to ignore
https://nitter.poast.org/MOSSADil/status/2061625094003376370#m
Oh sure whatever Jerusalem says must be true.
Wankiing Islamiic Apologist! 🙂
UNBELIEVABLE SCENES IN BEIRUT
Reports from Lebanon say the Lebanese army closed access to the Christian neighborhood of Chiyah, blocking residents of Hezbollah’s Dahyeh from crossing into the area if Israeli strikes begin.
In other words: Christian neighborhoods are being sealed off so Hezbollah supporters cannot flood into them during an evacuation.
https://nitter.poast.org/MOSSADil/status/2061478125624606994#m
I have no idea how to cure Bibi’s insanity. Do the Isreali humans have any method to remove this supposed human from his “office?”
For me, he loves WAR and Killing Others too much, and I don’t know who knows a method to cure his INSANITY other than President Trump.
Maybe if the opposition forces stop firing rockets and drones into Israel then there would be peace.
Thank you John for a dollop of common sense.
So does Iran and Hezbollah
AND ISLAM
Yea. He is not a solution. He’s a power hungry asshat
“I have no idea how to cure Bibi’s insanity.”
Insane, or a yet-another tail being wagged by a cabinet and staff aligned with the deep state and the globalist agendas?
Things are never as they seem, especially when it comes from Axios – which is absolutely aligned with our deep state and a globalist agendas.
The human herd is a tricky thing to steer, Fear, uncertainty and deception are essential.
Iranians are probably being guided by… John Kerry! (jk)
My guess is Israel, or their strawmen in the markets are profiting from various oil trades whilst also manipulating the Iran talks. They most likely learned from Ukrainians.
PDJT is wrong and Bibi is correct.
Trump is turning in the wrong direction
in favor of the
ISLAMOFASCISTS OF Iran….
Insurrection Barbie
@DefiyantlyFree
Avois reporter Barak Ravid has a clear pattern and before virtually every major meeting between Trump and Netenyahu, Ravid publishes a piece heavy with anonymous sources warning of tension, frustration, and potential rupture, only for the meetings themselves to tell a completely different story.
Cont…
Yeah, none of this seems per-chance.
I’ve a feeling the attack was not a Netenyahu call. I also have a feeling those who instigated and then this and then made the call to attack, did it to derail the US-Israel dimension of Trump’s peace negotiations.
I also have the feeling the narrative of the Axios piece was in place well ahead of the attack. In a sabotage scenario, Trump’s anger would be a given. But we might consider that Trump was furious, not so much that Netenyahu ordered the retailation attack, but that Netenyahu failed to stop the attack.
No one seems to want to consider that the US DeepState is aligned with actors in Israel, just as it is aligned with actors in Ukraine, EU, and UK. Actors who do not want peace. Actors who want Trump to fail with Iran
To me, if there was strong evidence of the Promethean frame (it’s the British empire) it would be this. They must keep things unstable and the price of oil high.
I think you are correct. These Iranian Mullahs live and own property in London. They seem quite comfortable and safe in GB unlike a common English citizen.
Leaks? = Fake News that distorts what was actually said and does not give the context.
“This is the duplicitous evil within the approach of Iran that Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States have previously said makes negotiations with Iran impossible.”
This sentence is ominous. We better get the other Arabs, Venezuela, and US pumping a lot more oil. I am beginning to think the easy Venezuela success made us over estimate how easy it would be. Have we run too low on Munitions with the TN plant explosion and President Trump imploring defense contractors to ramp up.
I am for putting Troops on the Ground and removing the IRGC root and stem.
It’s becoming increasingly difficult to ignore what’s right in front of us.
Trump and his family accepted enormous amounts of money from two Wahhabi regimes, Saudi Arabia and Qatar, and taking their money means playing by their rules.
I’m not making this up. Just look at the filings of Affinity Partners, the fund managed by Kushner, who is also dabbling as a negotiator on Trump’s behalf. Witkoff was bailed out by Qatar. These aren’t rumors or conspiracy theories. They’re verifiable facts.
Both Qatar and Saudi Arabia are afraid of the fall of the Islamic regime in Iran because a secular Iran, where religious Muslims are actually a minority, would likely become friendly with Israel. That wouldn’t end Saudi or Qatari influence in the region, but it would dilute it dramatically.
Now imagine how Saudi Arabia, a country that cannot defend itself without foreign assistance and relies heavily on outsiders (Pakistani mercenaries) for key military functions, can afford to tell the President of the United States “no” when he needs their airbases.
Can you imagine the reaction of a POTUS who had no obligations to MBS? I can. If Trump weren’t compromised, MBS would have been given two hours to reconsider, or face consequences.
Trump is completely constrained and cannot do what needs to be done. He’s jeopardizing American armed forces personnel, he’s jeopardizing the U.S. economy, and he’s jeopardizing the safety of Israeli soldiers and civilians by repeatedly preventing the Israeli military from finishing the job against Hamas and Hezbollah.
Unfortunately, this president is not who many of us desperately wanted to believe he was.
As an aside, like many relatively simple people, Trump gets angry when he’s lying. Remember his reaction when he was pressed about the Epstein files? When his administration, and yes, I guess we can blame so of it on Bondy, failed to release them, misled the public about it, and then tried to explain it away? The anger wasn’t subtle. We’re seeing the exact same reaction now.
I still think Trump is fundamentally a decent person, and on some level he knows he screwed up royally. His enormous ego likely makes that realization even harder to bear because, unlike some of his most loyal followers, he knows full well he has not delivered on many of his promises.
Ukraine, mass deportations, tariffs, Deep State accountability, the JFK files, the Epstein files, the alien files, which were a completely ridiculous exercise in recycling decades-old nonsense, Tulsi Gabbard’s departure, a J6 reparations fund that was quietly abandoned, voter ID legislation, and, obviously, Iran.
You can get away with announcements for a while, but at this point I think most of us can see the writing on the wall. We’re heading toward a crushing loss in November, for starters. And no, picking up 10 to 15 more GOP seats through redistricting won’t save us when oil is trading at $100 a barrel and voters are feeling it every time they fill up their tanks.
We have trouble maker , Ray Bach and many others fatigue
Give it a rest
You’re not calculating multiple Dem indictments coming down in the next few months.
People talk about black fatigue in the US. I also have jew and muslim fatigue. Can’t we just move them all back to their part of the planet and let nature take its course?
Israel has the permission of the Lebanese government to remain in south Lebanon. The entirety of northern Israel can NOT be inhabited because Hezbollah continues to fire rockets there. While I am a President Trump supporter, the idea that there is ANY viable negotiation with the IRGC or the remnants of the Iranian ‘government’ is preposterous. The Iranian ‘government’ is fractured now, and the only issue about the US going back in militarily is that the IRGC/government will once again unite against a ‘common enemy’. I am sure that President Trump understands that there are some situations where negotiation is not a viable instrument. This is one of them. The heads of the IRGC need to be eliminated, so that the Iranian people (Iranian ‘boots on the ground) can rise up and finally defeat this regime. The only thought I have is that President Trump is delaying with this negotiation tactic, while the Iranian civilians are being armed with weapons. Hopefully that is his tactic now.
Bad blood now indicated between PDJT and BiBi, Allied conflict of battle strategy, negotiation disruptions, oil price increase, Iran strengthening, Pres. Trump losing power and support, doom for the World!
Tomorrow, an update reveals PDJT has actually reversed the reported accounts in totality, the facts and media reliance on anonymous intel and confused ” sources ” was in error.
But….Sundance is pushing the narrative, so something big is in the works!
Disclaimer……just my $.02 opinion, take an aspirin and chk back after 72hrs.
I feel “they” are losing all credibility with 47 and the American people.
Looks like we did not knock enough snot out of Iran maybe they need a snot touch up.
Eloquent.
Something is off about the entire world and especially the USA.
Cabinet members, personnel are in a state of disarry it seems.
Iran ‘war’ that was supposedly to be over ‘quickly’ is now lingering on and on and Amns are tiring of these high gas prices. Food prices aren’t down. Packaging is becoming smaller and smaller for the same higher prices. Health care, insur is a major, major issue for many Amns b/c of obamacare. I hear this in the marketplace, at church, at ballgames. People are having a devil of a time with doctors, treatments, co-pays, medicine costs, all soaring.
I don’t get a good ‘feel’ fellow Americans are in a good way. And at least most I hear now have concluded capitol hill, lobbyists, staffers are the enemy. There’s NO representation, service, support from these petty criminals whose sole function is to fill their personal coffers with as many Amn tax $$$ as they can.
Seems Ukraine/Russia is never-ending. Iran-USA never ending.
Let Lindsay BE DEFEATED. Please defeat these war mongers.
BEST BUDDY OF A WANKER ALERT! (The three upvotes is the give-away) 🙂
Imagine where we’d be if Biden / Harris were in charge.
Seems to me it is time in this argument for someone to simply turn and walk away. Iran isn’t going to make an agreement worth having and even if they sign, its just a name on a piece of paper. No nukes. Fine, keep an eye on them and lock and load when appropriate. Strait? Figure something out to keep it open. Lock and load when appropriate. No matter how long you talk, they will never say they lost. You’re beating a dead horse.
It didn’t even make theheadline in Israeli news. How did anyone know Trump ” tore into” Bibi?
This thread has become a quagmire
Lots of fog
Lots of conjecture
Hold
Please
Iran is like the radical students who took over some campuses in the 60’s.
When asked, “ What if the administrators meet your demands?”
They answered, “Then we’ll make NEW demands!”
Insufferable. Arrogant.
Untrustworthy.
Bibi does not want the conflicts to end. He had advanced knowledge of October 7th attacks and did nothing to stop them. He even delayed confronting the slaughter of his own people, allowing maximum damage, to bolster his excuse to engage in the wars he has always wanted. “We will investigate our intelligence failure later (never). but first we must immediately destroy Humas so they can never do it again.” Total BS.
Until the IRGC and its minions are eliminated, any peace agreement with Iran is written on water.
instead of telling Israel to stop, Trump should’ve sent another boatload of bombs.