Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy appears on Fox News for an interview with Bret Baier. Within the interview Zelenskyy gives some context and details to the 20-point plan organized between him and the EU Leaders, currently being reviewed and modified by President Trump, Steve Witkoff, Marco Rubio and Jared Kushner.
The two remaining issues as described by Zelenskyy are the (1) security guarantees and (2) the territorial issue, Donbas control.
(1) Within the security guarantee proposal there are troubling signs. Zelenskyy describes it as a bilateral agreement between the USA and Ukraine, with similar constructs to the NATO alignment. A non-NATO pact between the U.S. and Ukraine that commits us to his defense if Russia would advance another attack. A 15-year guarantee committed in U.S. law through the U.S. House and Senate. This sounds troubling.
(2) On the territorial issue, regional control of the Donbas, Zelenskyy appears to be willing to cede territory but only under very limited circumstances. Zelenskyy wants a demilitarized zone under the term “a free economic zone” with specific rules.
Zelenskyy admits Ukraine cannot win the conflict against Russia without the United States involvement. Essentially without America, Russia would own the skies and be able to crush the Ukrainian army. WATCH:
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The audacity of this clown can never be over stated…why is anyone listening to his demands at all?
A mouthpiece “actor” for the euro trash, none of which “holds any cards” as PDJT would say.
The “euro trash” to which you refer are themselves actors. They all are, on both sides of the Atlantic. The big-picture view is that they are employed by different competing factors of the transnational tribal oligarchy, whose empire based on financial control over fake democracies is collapsing.
Their herds of white cattle are diminishing and becoming unruly and uncompliant. Their obsession with fiat currency has poisoned the real economy, which is contracting everywhere. They are afraid. It’s all falling apart and they have only one place to go, but they REALLY don’t want to go there because then would no longer be in charge of anything.
Keep going back to Mearsheimer’s talk, which shows that Ukraine is a deep state globalist Schiff show over a decade in the making.
Mearsheimer was right. This is why deep state actors like McCain, Graham, and others were always going there agitating and working to convince Azovs to fight Russia for the west with ours and Euro support. There are videos of them in Ukraine calling for this.
McCain was a member of the Soros Open Society Foundation. The people behind Biden planned this debacle. The idea there is some noble reason for this is pure hogwash.
McCain really was an Open Society member. Very wealthy to begin with, married a wealthy woman after divorcing is wife and real children too.
Despicable human. Thumb down on Obamacare repeal – the direction he headed for Eternity.
Did someone write ‘his’?
EU
Wait a sec, Fox News likes this guy and supports his begging us?
Gross.
Fox News is not to be trusted on the big issues
remember Arizona
FOX has always supported the Globalist Ukraine War . Because FOX supports the Globalists and throws a few bones to conservatives to keep them tuned in. They have some good folks who may think differently, but they wont be crossing the official stance of the FOX hierarchy. FOX pays well.
Pays well is a nice way of implying fires well.
Contradict the boss and the nice pay stops.
And Oh Yeah, the bosses are liberals profiting from suckering conservatives.
Rupert Murdoch and his sons like this guy and support the begging.
FNC is what they think, and want.
WSJ, and several other outlets as well.
You are surprised??? …. those so called paragons of “conservative” media; Brietbart, Newsmax, Fox and even the Gateway Pundit at times have been shilling for the EU-Ukraine since 2010 with the “Evil Russian” vs “those brave Ukrainians” narrative.
Today they are still shilling, even louder, for Z-Man and the EU.
This is why it is necessary to read all the outlets across the spectrum.
Rupert Murdoch and his offspring despise President Trump.
Fox News will do and say whatever it takes to undermine him.
ps… Bret Bair still looks like a human Cabbage Patch Doll.
Cut off the money and walk away.
Trump has to cut this mess loose. Ukraine is not our ally and Europe isn’t either. Let’s put our scarce resources into defending our own country.
You would think wouldn’t you? But yet he doesn’t. Why?
Just like he still has Blondie hanging around doing nothing. PDJT better be careful, he may lose the mid terms if he keeps going against MAGA.
Mids are already lost.
Pdjt will be impeached
Rs to lose the WH in 2028.
Koshener and Trump kids all good though.
“Yep, I am going to go straight to the polls and vote for the Democrats in 2026 and 2028 because Trump (Fill in the blank)!”
LOL!
You’re on the wrong web site.
💯 💯 💯
I can’t tell if this is sarcasm.
But does anybody believe that the NeverTrumpers won’t collude with the Dems to finally crush all things Trump and MAGA after destroying them politically?
They won’t let Trump go peacefully into retirement. They will finally jail and Epstein Trump. They will also crush and jail his kids.
But it won’t stop there. Every last one of us must be destroyed too. Whatever it takes. We must not ever rise up against them again.
Persecuting the J6 protesters didn’t shut us down. Expect much worse to come.
All because some idiots decided they could separate you from Trump. Bondi, Israel, on and on.
Yeah, because Barbi has been soooo effective. Why, look at all those arrests!
Trump’s case is undone by the traitors within, and those include Barbi, Todd Blanche, and Susie Wiles. He got rid of the execrable Sergio Gor, but more work is yet to be done.
Guess we’re all just doomed then, eh?
/s
Memories are short…
I would say that none of us will forget the coup staged against us and our America in 2020. We still bear scars from the four years of the darkest hell inflicted by reprobate monsters who mistakenly believed this country was theirs to do with as they pleased. And who brought devastation to citizens whom they despise.
But it seems I am wrong.
For those who are dissatisfied with the pace of all we are currently watching regarding the despicable, unforgivable corruption which attempted to destroy President Trump, and failed, a gentle reminder…
This time is one we all prayed for so fervently and for so long. Even with the tribulations which are in great part the landmines laid by the most wicked, anti American administrations in our 250 year existence. We should remember this. We were heard, and we were answered. Donald John Trump is President.
But it is the Lord Himself in Whose hand the timepiece rests. It is He Who ordains everything in this world.
I’d hope in the quiet, we could all pause to review where this world was a short while ago, to see the mercies which God has bestowed not only on our country but for others, too. According to His well timed Grace. Remembering that He is never early, nor is He ever late.
Through His servant Donald Trump, He has given to us and others many blessings we thought would never come. In counting them, I’d pray that our faith and, most important, patience, both which falter at times, are reaffirmed and strengthened. And remember always that our loving God is the Holy Waymaker, that from evil He works good.
I know it’s hard as President Trump, virtually all by himself, daily takes his shovel and attempts to dig us out of the cesspit he inherited, surrounded by godless enemies who want to keep us there. I often say that mustard seeds are potent…
If they were not, I dare say that instead of the progress our President has made in not quite a year in extricating us from that pit, we would now be consigned to the Uniparty/Globalist hell built for our permanent enslavement.
We were this close…
Pray hard and harder, mustard seed in hand, for a merciful Father to do the rest.
Just a suggestion…
X1000
The ever constant Ms Betsy! Many thanks for a beautiful and timely reminder.
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It likely spared me from making several tacky comments!
Because Trump wants peace.
Taking away the marbles and going home just means more war.
Frankly, I am amazed at all the Z/EU BS that Trump is tolerating.
But keeping them engaged in peace negotiations is moving them toward peace.
Hence their need to provoke Putin with more acts of war.
That is another weakness that Trump is using to move them to peace.
They can never admit that they are the ones who want war.
They have to cast all blame on Putin.
Michele M, this article from the ConservativeTreehouse provides insight to the answer of your question.
TheConservativeTreehouse = A Significant Geopolitical Problem for President Trump and UsJuly 10, 2025 | Sundance
“In the mind of President Putin, and in the growing awareness of the American electorate, the President of the United States does not control the Intelligence Community. It is entirely possible for the USIC to take America deeper toward war despite the President and people of America not wanting that to happen. Putin is simply prepared for that outcome.
This reality explains a dynamic where President Trump engages with President Putin in an effort to stop the war in Ukraine, yet President Putin continues the war in Ukraine; because ultimately he knows President Trump does not control the elements that facilitate the Ukraine military.”
People struggle to accept this dynamic. However, I would remind everyone that right now YOU are paying for the entire government of Ukraine to exist. Including the Ukraine govt payrolls, retirement benefits, healthcare and operational budget of Ukraine overall.
Americans do not want to pay for that. President Trump does not want to pay for that. Yet, here we are, paying for that.
The same inertia process applies to the literal Ukraine war and conflict with Russia.
You might not want it. President Trump might not want it. Yet, here again we are providing weapons, intelligence, satellite communication, personnel and systems for the war.
This is the reality of the situation regardless of your/my willingness to accept it. This reality is what President Vladimir Putin discusses and accepts.
The problem for President Trump is not that this reality exists; the bigger political problem for President Trump is that people are increasingly becoming aware of this reality.
Now, many people are recently arguing against this reality. However, these are the same voices who previously stated President Trump could unilaterally declassify information within the same silo process that is designed to control his declassification authority. Empirically, and in reality, these voices are wrong.
Something needs to change. That something is generally that President Trump has to either: 1. admit publicly he does not control the U.S. Intelligence Community (very ugly); or 2. take control of that intelligence community (even uglier).”
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There are three branches to our Federal Government.
There are many roadblocks to President Trump as he tries to enact a MAGA initiative for Americans. … There is a picture of a gold bar ‘found’ in the home of >former D-Senator Bob Melendez. … The wall stopping President Trump is the massive amount of money given to our Congress by the people controlling the uni-party. Bribery, blackmail, and Extortion are part of our political process. … Ukraine is mentioned at the very end of the article.
New Jersey Senator Bob Menendez, Chairman of Senate Foreign Affairs Committee, Indicted for Bribery and Corruption AgainSeptember 22, 2023 | Sundance
“It is entirely possible for the USIC to take America deeper toward war despite the President and people of America not wanting that to happen. Putin is simply prepared for that outcome.”
Foreign Policy, both US and Russian, in a nutshell.
Putin knows why. And he has said the truth out loud but the media is owned by our Government.
What he needs to do, in unison with your suggestions, is publicly address the fact that Z is asking the sons and daughters of American’s to be on the hook with their lives, as well as them and their parents tax dollars, with little security of their own to know if a false flag was not planned to drag them all do death and insolvency.
Something to that effect. We don’t want this war. Z of all people should be willing to stop everything now to protect his fellow citizens. Yet he does not. Says it all.
#1: Just no. Let the fricking Euros do this. We remain happy to sell the Euros all the weapons they want to buy.
#2: Russia won’t concede more than a trivial amount of conquered territory. Unless Zed agrees to more or less the current front lines. Putin will never agree.
I had Zekensky fatigue when the little worm was waist deep in the first impeachment. He and his fellow countryman Vindman were on the same team.
I have Ukraine fatigue in totality. Z-man and all the DS grifters can go eff-off.
Vindman.
There was a winner.
And the kicker is it’s not just him.
He’s got a goofball brother who looks just like him.
And don’t forget the USIC in the background, quietly propping up their little puppets.
Security guarantees, Condition One: Hard Pass. This is a complete pandering to the squishy-kneed EU buddies he will run to each time he returns from the US. He’s a slitherer. I don’t know that Fox is per se on his side, but he is available for interviewing to push his line more often than Putin, who I’m sure they’d interview as well. But one of Putin’s conditions is “no NATO troops on the ground in Ukraine.” So who would suffice – the Jamaica Bobsled Team?
Remember also that he runs to the EU BEFORE he speaks with the US as well. He likely doesn’t know what he “will” accept for Ukraine until the EU tells him what he will accept. I would venture that the staff had to de-slime Mar-a-Lago after he left!! He’s a scuzzball’s sleazeball!
“I would venture that the staff had to de-slime Mar-a-Lago after he left!!”
I hope they remembered to disinfect the piano…………
Actually, maybe that’s a good thing he is on FOX. Let everyone hear this whiner and fake leader shill his line of b.s. Let the American people see more of him and his lies and outrageous claims and begging.
The EU built him now they can deal with him. Send him on his way out of America and lock the door after him. NO MORE pandering to him. Get the USA out of this whole mess now. Pres. Trump has given him and the EU enough time and expense to settle this war. They keep playing games and delaying.
The EU and Z are awaiting the midterms and betting on Pres. Trump being stopped cold if the Dems win the House and/or the Senate and then getting the Dem controlled govt. to send UKR all the money they want again. While continuing the war using NATO to keep the USA engaged.
End it now please. Get us and our tax dollars OUT of there once and for all.
Hasn’t this always been CONgress plan? It can’t be more obvious, can it? Our feckless Republican CONgress hurried through legislation to prevent their great President from withdrawing from NATO without *their* approval.
Indeed. So what is CONgress so worried about? An end to the NGOs, color revolutions and forever wars they grift off of? We can blame the EUweenies, and they certainly are complicit, but obviously none of this could have transpired without our (unelected?) CONgress paving the way.. right?
Excellent points. We all had to know that the GOP Congress would always work against what we voted for .
Yes, there are some good ones. But the ones that sit at the top of the House and Senate are not MAGA and do not want Maga to succeed. If they did, all kinds of things that Trump has asked for would be codified.
All 535 are corrupt.
All. Of. Them.
The sooner that last little bit of Battered Conservative Syndrome is healed, the better.
Agreed. Not a one has called to recess for even one day, in either of President Trump’s two terms, to permit our President to finally appoint his own cabinet without their approval. Not a one will do it, when only one vote is necessary.
Let the *real* MAGA CONgressman -whoever he is- step up to call a recess. Just one.
Yes, agreed! Listening to this Lil’ Sawed-off weasel reminds me so much of another lying POS: Gavin I-will-lie-about-every-and-anything Newsom. Enough now! Hopefully, President Trump not only finally closes the door on this guy, but slams it in the process.
Time to walk away. America should have zero accountability/responsibilities in this mess and ALL of the hogs at the trough must move on and find another spot to suck up their ill-gotten gains. Again, it’s time to stop both the physical and financial bleeding all around. Please make it happen Mr. Trump!
…Please make it happen, President Trump!
Actually the Brett Baier interview with Zelenskyy was very revealing. Did you note how inflexible and demanding Zelenskyy was? Did you like his attitude? Did you like his answers regarding
the corruption in Ukraine involving Zelenskyy’s close associates? Do you trust Ukrainian President Zelenskyy?
Tell him we will set him up with a “Learing Center” franchise of his own and the war will end next week.
Hahaha …. “Learing Center” indeed.
Exactly. My patience with the Somalis and Z man are over.
Not that I had any in the first place. I was over the Somalis when they invaded Seattle.
America First. No more free loading.
I have more respect for the common fruit gnat.
Because the fruit gnat is just doing what it is genetically designed to do.
Human beings have free will.
Their behavior is generally decent to mostly self-centered.
IMO Zelenskyy falls solidly in the mostly self-centered category.
He is extremely untrustworthy.
Putin is not so hot either.
They deserve each other.
But if you have to choose, who would you trust watching/babysitting your kids/grandkids?
Since when in military history does the defeated dictate terms to the victor?
As always it’s just give more $$$.
Doesn’t matter which country it’s the same, we need more US taxpayer dollars.
PDJT has to know that he’s going to lose support if we stay involved.
I understand that this is of great value to him to have an end to armed conflict but, there will never be a real peace with the EU as a whole’s hatred of Russia.
Eurotrash is just that trash.
Since our “Allies” aren’t, I would not trust any US safety guarantees in Ukraine or Gaza. It would be nice to get they guys out of South Korea.
Wag the dog incoming.
So he gets his script from the EU and goes on TV to try to publicly “negotiate”? He thinks this will work with Trump?
The weasel Canadians pulled the same stunt a few months ago. Look where it got them.
It’s the same London playbook.
The Queen is dead. PDJT, it’s time to drop the blinders, and this “special relationship”, too: where America does all the work, pays all the money, and sacrifices all the sons.
I’ll trade you one NATO and one Deep State for a U.S. alliance with Russia.
💯 ^^^ Shock the world dear President Trump. Do it!
Russia is not a fan of homosexuals adopting, so no. Also Russia very white, so racists. Just thinking about it makes me want my pearls to clutch.
i am not a fan of homo’s adopting either, and I am white and don’t feel an ounce of guilt for it. Nothing wrong with wanting to assimilate with you own race. Blacks and Hispanics do it all the time
Homosexuals are a strong organized political activist group. By legalizing homosexual behavior we now have multiple genders, gender confused children, and they are teaching (recruiting) children through our schools. Homosexuality is aberrant society destroying behavior. We were better off when it was illegal and closeted. Bottom line, it is not part of God’s plan and it is not Godly behavior. Pride is one of the seven deadly sins! Children should not be taught this in any form (indoctrination) and homo marriage is an abomination.
Love the sinner. Hate the sin.
Children should be raised to understand and live the word acceptance.
Homosexuals are a strong organized political activist group. By legalizing homosexual behavior we now have multiple genders, gender confused children, and they are teaching (recruiting) children through our schools. Homosexuality is aberrant society destroying behavior. We were better off when it was illegal and closeted. Bottom line, it is not part of God’s plan and it is not Godly behavior. Pride is one of the seven deadly sins! Children should not be taught this in any form (indoctrination) and homo marriage is an abomination.
No, they aren’t a strong political activist group, not anymore.
The fracturing in their group first started back when that lawsuit was filed against the people who didn’t want to make that gay cake.
According to the blogs, many of the commenters were saying – ‘it’s not fair to force someone to make a cake’-‘why not just hire a gay to make a cake’-‘why do anything to antagonize anyone unnecessarily’.
Then, along came those militants who thought it was acceptable for drag queens to get around children.
Plenty of non-straight people were angry about that.
There was a concerted effort across social media to shut down any dissent.
Just because they didn’t get any media coverage doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.
Recently, the latest fracturing came with the push to go along with all the gender affirming surgeries on children.
Accepting gay people and mutilating children (who are not qualified to make decisions of that magnitude) are two different things.
Worst of all, the group started out as a gay rights movement and since has been co-opted by radicals who do not represent the core group.
The core group is gay people who want equal rights, not all those fringe, attention seeking lunatics.
Go back and read about the timeline of events and make an effort at reporting it accurately.
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Russia is home to over 190 ethnic groups, making it one of the most ethnically diverse countries in the world.
wouldn’t that be fun watching the globalist and lib reactions
If that would only happen, how marvelous it would be! Game changer, for sure.
The American taxpayers want our money back from this money laundering griftt
Z is a grifter first class because he is being told to be. He will never settle a peace agreement and the USA needs to abandoned ship in UKR immediately, imo. How many times does he have to pull the football away before we don’t play the game anymore? Get us out of there Pres. Trump. Take the ball and go home along with the money and arms we sell them. Get us out of NATO too.
Offer only humanitarian aid that’s monitored by the USA to make sure it goes to the people and not the criminals in charge anymore or kicked back to corrupt people in the USA. Russia should keep most of the territory it originally wanted. They are Russian people anyway for the most part. Putin won’t agree to anything less I’m thinking. Security for UKR? For 15 years? NO WAY.
Item one- insane to even put this forward. The likelihood of a false flag to draw us into war (and enrich the MIC) is just too high. Ukraine is not NATO, not our friend and holds very little threat to us. Waste our blood and sacred honor on that weasely, black-suited POS? I think not.
Item 2- does the tiny, tin-pot dicktater really think President Putin will give up the area they have fought and died for? To the victor go the spoils. Its been that way for millennia and tiny “pianoman” thinks it should change because of his “greatness”. The hubris is deep with that narcissist.
I wish President Trump would just walk away from this as Z-man and the other Euro-trash just aren’t serious people. However, his heart is tired of the senseless killing. I understand. I hope President Trump can find the win-win even with all the road blocks the EU, NATO and our MIC are throwing up.
…angrily stomps off soapbox…
Disappear this punk already. Go away
This muddies the waters for Trump. The little actor has put on his happy face and going directly to the American people.
Was this sanctioned by the Trump negotiating team?
Why is this turd going directly to appeal to the public and consequently rallying Congress against the President.
This is making the optics much more complex and to Z’s favour.
FOX is doing it for views. Never trust Brett Baier.
ugh, just say bye
This is so British.
Making audacious demands from a position of profound weakness.
Shameless sanctimoniousness after being thoroughly beaten. Obnoxious arrogance.
They’d all be speaking German were it not for Churchill’s US salesmanship.
Even worse, the EU and their piano man stooge hide behind big brother’s formidable muscle while squeaking out their “demands.” Pathetic.
Yet the German Government wants an all out war with Russia again. Right now! Today. The German people don’t want a war and the muslims the Government brought in will not fight for Germany.
“Yet the German Government wants an all out war with Russia again. Right now! Today.”
Völlig verrückt
Israel 2.0
Free $
Security agreements
False flags to trigger ‘defense’ actions
Total scheme top to bottom.
Coked out of his mind. And why stop at just 20? Heck he should demand at least 50. 100.. heck why not get 500 points.
what a jack*ss. Risking WW3 because of these clowns.
only in Clown World would the loser dictate terms.
And only in a clown world would the press not go after him like a school of piranhas.
When will Ukraine hold elections
Who will count the votes in Zelensky’s ‘election’? Zelensky
Just walk away, PDJT. Just walk away.
Zelensky and his EU partners have been pushing maximalist demands for what can only be described as NATO Article 5 protections. It would be like getting all the benefits of being in NATO but without being a formal member of the Western military alliance. And he wants a 50-year security guarantee from POTUS Trump.
The only land Zelensky will control once this war ends is six feet below grade.
This is an existential war. For him.
An installed globalist puppet.
“A non-NATO pact between the U.S. and Ukraine that commits us to his defense if Russia would advance another attack. A 15-year guarantee committed in U.S. law through the U.S. House and Senate. This sounds troubling.” – Sundance
Oh hell yeah that’s troubling!!!! The clowns in the Senate will love this guarantee and it will hopefully provide an opportunity for a US/Russia confrontation and a continuing of the war!!! Who wrote this plan Samantha Power??? JMO
Pound sand
It’s time to abandon this ridiculous midget dictator.
Perhaps PDJT’s tact with Z is wearing him and the EU down… They are getting closer to PDJT original terms… Putin still is the wild card.
Wearing out the adults is the temper tantrum tactic of a two year old.
“(1) security guarantees and (2) the territorial issue, Donbas control.”
That guy is a broken record.
The Trump team has the patience of a Saint.
I’m curious to see when Trump just puts his foot down and says NO DICE, and lets the chips fall where they may.
I can see that he’s trying to hold back WWIII because of the idiots in Europe. Not the Europeans, but their leaders who are doing a piss poor job at everything, etc.
There is no way AMERICANS are going to commit their sons and daughters to a 15 year security guarantee.
Same as the 80 year long Marshall Plan for Europe, such a thing will never end once passed. The Willing Coalition European countries will always be lazy and generationally entitled, mooching off others, until forced to provide for themselves.
President Trump is not going to allow that. He has made it clear that American Troops are not going into Ukraine. Period.
Yeah, and all POTUS has to do is listen to this and quit the US involvement. That is also a way to achieve peace.
Tough love for little Z. We tried to do this the nice way so that you would be left with something, but now we are forced to take the other path which is no support at all.
Have him sign over all of his stolen wealth back to the US taxpayers. Then he can kiss our asses and then maybe we’ll think about it.
NO! Z! You cannot have Donbas. The stated reason for this started with the actual genocidal campaign by your actual NAZIs called the Azov battalion killing people in territory you think you should control. It doesn’t matter than they speak Russian. They were YOUR PEOPLE and YOUR RESPONSIBILITY to protect them. You sent AZOV to kill them and to make them leave instead.
Giving up Donbas and also getting rid of your “Russian problem” is a FAIR and REASONABLE compromise. No one left to kill or to remove from your territory because it’s not your territory any longer.
Imagine a parental rights dispute where the father has a documented history of trying to kill his children and when they are to leave, they fight to keep them? No. Sorry. That should never happen and will never happen.
You can try to change history as has Russia but the truth of the matter is a revolution started the Donbas war with Russian backing. Ukraine was not ready for this and the Azov battalion came later in response, neo-nazis that amount to 3% but fierce fighters that were needed. The cause of that revolution was twofold. The US helped to build the color revolution and change the Russian control of Ukraine was one. The order to make the Ukrainian language the National language was another.
The Russian language problem is your second mistake. The Soviets forced Ukraine to totally accept the Russian language in an effort to destroy their culture. They were much more forceful than what Ukraine has done and the Russian language is of course much more widespread than just the far east. Much of Ukraine speaks Russian because they of course grew up with that forced on them. It is not illegal to speak Russian and many do even now speak both while learning. Compare this to those in our national English language country who do not speak English. Was it worth a revolution or was it Russia who lied about its backing for years until it admitted it having control?
I am perhaps a more MAGA extremist than anyone here. I am for the US before anything else and would like to see a revolution of our own but I have lived and worked in both countries and know that Russia is far more full of fraud and prejudice. More than that you people here need to look back at history because it repeats. Hitler took parts of countries he considered to be German. Took them by force or politically. Europe allowed this to happen to the point of “Peace for our time” and that was the mistake on Europe’s part that culminated with the invasion of Poland and ww2. The US as it is now is doing the same as it did before. We are not ready for war, not financially ready, not militarily ready and it is not our war. If only the problem was fixed early on. The Soviets and Germany both took Poland and then Soviets moved to take the Baltics and other countries. Neither were our friends.
European governments understand they made a mistake that led to ww2. It is right that they lead now to stop this mistake from happening again. We should take care of our own but also not make the same mistake. Russia could have taken all of Georgia but stopped because that would be worse than just a part. It also knew that with time it could take it all politically which it has done. Ukraine will end the same, part militarily and then politically. What next then? All of Eastern Europe has substantial Russian peoples. Ukraine/Russia will be totally surrounded by NATO. Only takes a bit to incite and back revolutions without a NATO intervention and would it start a ww3 including us?
Please Mr. President, Sir…just say “No!”
You missed a perfect “nyet” opportunity. Just sayin.
15 years is plenty of time for Ukraine to drag us into a direct war with Russia. It’s NATO membership by another name.
A security guarantee gets paid with American blood and treasure.
Thank you, Sundance.
… and keep in mind folks (especially those Ukrainians who may be listening), this same Dictator for Life Z-Man resides nearly EVERY DAY of the week OUTSIDE the war torn Ukraine, in safe LUXURY.
Where does he reside?
The media will never state this fact because it does kind of look bad for the “war leader” whom they support to not even living inside the nation he is leading, in luxury.
Second … he will be in either UK, France or Germany … this provides Z-Man de-facto NATO Article 5 protection from the Russians. Must be nice to have NATO as your body guard.
While in the US, for face to face, he stays where ever President Trump or member of congress is located.
anywhere but the Ukraine.
So Zelensky is just a puppet errand boy who answers to the EU Leaders who want all out war with Russia. They way to force compliance with a peace deal is to slap more tariffs an the EU nations and the U.K. cleave their support from Ukraine by crushing their economies with such burdensome tariffs that they comply with any peace plan negotiated by PDJT. The wild card to this idea would be how to control the MI6 and CIA IC communities who continue to provoke and poke Russia and the US and NATO into war for their own evil and corrupt purposes.
1). NO.
2). The people of the Donbas have already voted to become part of the Russian Federation.
Perhaps it’s time that Ukraine actually has an election, to get rid of this criminal.
Is this story out there to help in Z’s removal now? Could be false flag, but what will really happen?
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/International/russian-official-threatens-zelenskyy-moscow-claims-kyiv-attacked/story?id=128774157
“LONDON — A top Russian official on Monday issued personal threats against Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy after Russia claimed that Ukraine launched a drone attack on one of Russian President Vladimir Putin’s official residences.
Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov alleged that Ukraine launched a drone attack on Putin’s state residence in Novgorod region on the night of Dec. 29. Lavrov offered no evidence to support the assertion, which Zelenskyy was quick to dismiss as a Russian disinformation effort.
Dmitry Medvedev — the former Russian president and prime minister now serving on the country’s Security Council — posted to X accusing Zelenskyy of “trying to derail the settlement of the conflict,” referring to the ongoing U.S.-sponsored peace talks. “He wants war. Well, now at least he’ll have to stay in hiding for the rest of his worthless life,” Medvedev wrote.”
“In separate posts to Telegram, Medvedev — who, during Moscow’s full-scale war on Ukraine, has become known as a particularly hawkish voice within Putin’s security establishment — even appeared to suggest that Zelenskyy should be “exhibited” in St. Petersburg after his “imminent demise.”
Kiril Dmitriev, the Kremlin aide who also serves as the CEO of the Russian Direct Investment Fund and has been closely involved in negotiations with U.S. representatives, also questioned the Ukrainian president’s future.
“Who is after Zelenskyy?” Dmitriev said in a post to X.
The Kremlin said U.S. President Donald Trump was informed of the alleged attack during a Monday phone call with Putin. Russian officials also threatened retaliatory strikes in Ukraine.
Yuri Ushakov, a top aide to Putin, told the state-run Tass news agency that Putin and Trump discussed the issue by phone on Monday, with the U.S. leader expressing his surprise and anger.”
Too put a very fine point on it … Russia DOES NOT Recognize the (EU and Z-Man) “20-Point Plan”. The Russians stated this publicly.
The Russians are negotiating from the US 25-Point Plan.
ALL references to the EU 20-Point Plan and not the US 25-Point starts the negotiations in a FAILED Position. If there are overlaps between the plans … OK fine … but state ALL agreements in terms of the US Plan.
Z-Man and EU are winning the PR and NEGOTIATION battles as well as scuttling the actual negotiations with any references to the 20-Point Plan by the US side other than to say those positions will be integrated into the US PLAN where appropriate.
This why the ALL MEDIA, across the political spectrum, is always referencing the Z-Man and EU “20-Point Plan”.
On after ending of the war and Russia wants to help rebuild, (5:58) Z says, “they (Russia) HAVE to GIVE US MONEY. They can GIVE US MONEY. MONEY for this, and we will rebuild everything what we need to rebuild and we will decide what to do.” Oh my, right…like what have they done with hundreds of billions of dollars and no accountability! I’ll bet President Putin fell on the floor laughing when hearing that statement!! What an embarrassment, money, money, money. Enough.
Here’s a better plan: 1. We help get a deal done with Poland, Hungary, Russian, and Slovenia? and dissolve that fake country of Ukraine back to it’s pre-soviet origins and let each of them deal with the Nazis in their own respective territories. 2. We prosecute the Russia, Russia, Russia hoaxers in Florida, and put the blame for this pointless and needless war on them. 3. We locate and seize all the assets and bribes that were we purchased with our stolen money, liquidate and return what we can to the treasury. 4. Enter nuke treaties with Russia, lift the sanctions, do commerce, and let them live in peace. Declare the world is now at peace (Trump put an end to the cold war that should have ended 40 years ago) and deport all the refugees back home.
What force / imposition is restricting PDJT from walking away from this disastrous situation? Who really holds the cards / power if not Trump?
Can’t figure out why he is allow to do all this and we still give him a warm greeting so he can act like he is emperor of all. No other leader would think to go before a nation and spill. Seriously. Go back and read some of Sundance’s earlier posts. Russia has been preparing.