There are going to be three MAGA groups: ♦Group one, team Rubio. ♦Group two, team Vance – Musk/Thiel. ♦Group three (alligator emojis) team DeSantis – Ellison/Murdoch. It looks like Trump wants team one and team two to work together, avoiding team three.
Watch Rubio in video.
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Keep watching.
Well, dang. The dems are telling me it’s a fact Trump is running again in 2028. Well, shucks.
President Trump is ALWAYS RUNNING through the Dem’s minds (rent free of course.)
Now that’s funny, I don’t care who you are.
Larry says so.
You made me think of a line of Andy Gibb’s. Andy was the younger brother of the Gibbs of the Bee Gees and an accomplished singer himself. He once said, “Girls are always running through my mind … they don’t dare walk.” 🙂
Yep, trampling what few brain cells still firing
It’s fun telling libs he’s going to be re-elected in 2028 with seriousness! I am serious about it though, he was robbed of his first term and deserves a second chance!
First AND second was stolen!
You know, there’s always President Trump’s sons who could run for President in 2028.
And how about Erika Kirk for VP? Or someone else, maybe …
There are so many possibilities in life.
Should be interesting in any case! 🙂
You know, there’s always President Trump’s sons who could run for President in 2028.
And how about Erika Kirk for VP? Or someone else, maybe …
There are so many possibilities in life.
Should be interesting in any case!
Erika Kirk would be a very poor choice as a VP candidate.
What qualifies her for the position?
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Also, what qualify’s Trumps kids for the position.
Eric Trump did not write it off when asked recently. I don’t think he has any interest right now though.
Erik Trump is not only the smartest of Trump’s children, he went through the fire with his Dad, and is the most subpoenaed person in US history. He’s sharp, a great business man like his Dad and has a whole lot of folks in his sights. Eric would be a great choice.
What exactly disqualifies them in your opinion?
Good question!
Don Jr. makes me think of Cruz and snakeoil.
Let’s start with Eric, shall we, Marcia?
Eric Trump is 41 years old and serves as the Executive Vice President of The Trump Organization where he oversees the company’s global real estate portfolio and plays a central role in management, operations, acquisitions, financing, design, construction, branding, and hospitality operations.
Eric is based in Palm Beach, Florida, and is involved in all aspects of the business, including luxury hospitality, commercial and residential development, golf, and blockchain ventures.
Alongside his older brother Donald Trump Jr., Eric runs the Trump Organization as a trustee and executive vice president, managing the family business interests held in a trust.
Eric has been instrumental in expanding Trump Golf from three properties in 2006 to 21 world-class clubs globally, personally overseeing major projects like the $250 million revitalization of Trump National Doral Miami and the £200 million restoration of Trump Turnberry in Scotland.
Eric also played a founding role in Trump Hotels and oversees operations at Trump Winery in Charlottesville, Virginia, the largest vineyard on the East Coast.
Additionally, Eric leads initiatives in cryptocurrency and blockchain, serving as Co-founder and Chief Strategy Officer of American Bitcoin and playing a key role in World Liberty Financial.
During his father’s presidency, Eric continued to manage the company’s day-to-day operations and has stated that the Trump Organization would pursue foreign business opportunities, reversing a self-imposed restriction from the first term.
Eric also previously founded and led the Eric Trump Foundation, which raised over $50 million for St. Jude Children’s Research Hospital before he ceased active fundraising in 2016 to avoid potential conflicts of interest.
Eric and his lovely wife Lara have been married for almost 11 years and have two children.
Basically, Marcia, he’s a family man and a very successful businessman.
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I’m reading his book, Under Siege, and it’s quite good. With the experience you’ve described – and what he describes in the book he would likely make a fine POTUS if he could get elected.
All of these people are very heavily involved in the “Trump Companies” businesses while Donald himself is not permitted to do so. It’s idle speculation to wonder if any of them have “political aspirations” like he did. And, in 2025, it’s not the time, nor the point.
Eric Trump has been instrumental in calling for online Nights of Prayer for America, the Trump family, and most recently, the Kirk family. I definitely respect him in leading the way when it comes to recognizing that we’re in a spiritual battle and acknowledging our need for God. Also, he has a new book out. It might behoove you to check it out.
As for Don Jr., haven’t followed him as closely, but you know, whenever I see someone posting about “Trump 2028” it always makes me smile and think OK which one? The Donald, Eric, Don Jr. or Barron. * innocent look with a mischievous grin *
The question of “qualifications” is the most stupid of constantly asked about people being POTUS. As we have seen Obama made POTUS, which I think violated the basic qualifications specified in the Constitution, that question should never be asked again in terms of personal merit or experience again. Almost none of our prior presidents could pass your rhetorical question about experience or other qualifications.
But a leader of large enterprises who operates legally under the system of law and regulation without violating either is one who could govern the nation and to be trusted not to violate the laws of the country or the rights of its people.
Exactly!
I listened to Megan Kelly’s podcast just last week featuring Don Jr. He’s actually very articulate, a bit of a maverick like dad. That said, I wouldn’t want him on the ballot, yet.
Eric I can’t speak to. Seems competent and more settled than his older brother. Together they may make an dynamic duo.
I would take Eric over Donald Jr. 100% of the time.
It’s been said that Trump chose Eric over Don to run the family business because he was the most mature and sensible of the two. Their personal lives seem to corroborate this.
Eric does seem to be more mature and sensible.
Don Jr comes off as being smarmy and scattered.
What’s up with Don Jr dating that Kimberly lady who used to be married to Gavin JPaulGetty Newsom?
Wasn’t Don Jr married to her at some point?
That’s even weirder.
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He was engaged to Silicone/Botox/Cosmetic Surgery Queen Kimberly Guilfoyle Newsom Villency, but not married to her.
Ah.
Thank you for the clarification.
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No, just engaged! I think Don jr, just likes to chase skirts
mother was not a US citizen when her children were born
Thank you!
Unfortunately, too many here are either (1) ignorant of the Constitution’s presidential requirements, (2) don’t understand the definition of natural born citizen, (3) believe Obama, by so far successfully getting away with violating the Constitution, nullified both the requirements and the definition of NBC, or (4) simply don’t give a damn.
HOPEFULLY… there are enough of us to whom none of the above applies to defeat ANY non-natural born citizen running for president or vice president, no matter whose child they happen to be!
I, for sure, will be one of them! Indeed, I will do everything morally and legally possible to make sure another non-natural born citizen is never even nominated as a candidate for the office of president or vice president.
For the record, Tiffany is the only child of President Trump who is a natural born citizen and constitutionally eligible to legally serve as president or vp.
Very true. RINOs caved on Barry Soetoro because they didn’t want to be called Racists when their legal objections to his candidacy were accurate, and legal.
Agreed, even though I don’t remember the objections you mention… Perhaps, you meant “potential objections?”
He is not a natural born citizen of the U. S. He was not born in Hawaii, and even his brother acknowledges this fact as seen in Joel Gilbert’s film “Dreams of My Real Father”
As such, he was Constitutionally unqualified to be President.
Yes, I’m aware of all that as well as much, much more relative to Obama’s non-eligibility; and, I agree with you 100%. When I read “their legal objections to his candidacy were accurate, and legal” in your earlier comment I took that to mean you were saying the RINOs had actually verbalized some of the many objections to Obama’s lack of Constitutional eligibility.
As far as I recollect, there were essentially no such verbal objections made by anyone in the upper tiers of the GOP, Fox News, etc.
And Obama took full advantage of that. May that never happen again in our country. It is IMPERATIVE that we have a President who was born in America. (the selection is bad enough without adding this to it.)
Oh, his mother was a United States citizen and Marshall Davis was too.
Stanley Ann Dunham was not Obama’s birth mother and Marshall Davis was not his biological father.
At the time Obama was born, Kenya was a British Protectorate, meaning the Brits kept all the vital records, marriage, deaths, births, etc. British Intelligence still has those records. According to their records, the man Barack Obama was named after, Barrack Obama Sr., was Obama’s actual father. His actual birth mother was one of Obama Senior’s several mistresses.
Although Stanley Ann and Obama Sr were supposedly married, there is no record of it, and it is a matter of public record that Stanley Ann and Obama’s father lived at different addresses in different residences in Honolulu during the time they were supposedly married. And, there is no record of them ever living together at any time.
As they say, apples don’t fall far from the tree. Strongly suspect they are both more qualified than most politicians.
Marcia, Marcia, Marcia
What are you basing your opinion on?
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What are you basing your opinion on?
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She’s simply not presidential material and I base that opinion on everything I’ve seen and heard of and from her, especially since September 10th.
Prissing around and making goo-goo eyes with Andrew Corvet doesn’t bode well for her either.
She’s too controversial and superficial.
This country has enough problems already.
The best thing she could do is stay home and devote herself to her children.
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Amen and amen.
Some see the good,
others see the bad.
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None are so blind as those who refuse to see…
The most important qualification for the presidency is meeting the Constitution’s presidential requirements and the most important of those is being a natural born citizen.
If a person does not meet those requirements, nothing else matters. That person should never be considered as presidential material no matter how great they may appear to be otherwise; simply because, out of America’s 342 million citizens, there are literally millions to choose from who DO meet the requirements.
If one does meet those requirements, the next important question is, “Does the candidate understand all the other parts of the Constitution and is he/she willing to abide by and defend the entire Constitution?” Although some may certainly be better than others, by explicitly using the Constitution as a guide, almost any reasonably intelligent person can effectively serve as president.
I have always said “any TRUE American off the streets would do a better job than any “politician.”
That’s certainly a noble rule of thumb; however, there are true Americans who are not natural born citizens by no fault of their own yet cannot rightfully be considered Constitutionally eligible to legally serve as president.
For example, a couple goes to Paris on vacation. Let’s say the husband is a legally elected president of the USA and the First Lady is pregnant, but they plan to be back on U.S. soil before the due date. Despite their best intentions, the baby comes early and is born in Paris.
The child of a U.S. president is certainly a True American; but, THAT child of a president is not a natural born citizen. Now, some would demand that we give that child a pass and vote for it for president despite the unfortunate circumstances of its birth.
However, if we should knowingly and willingly elect such a candidate then, to be just and moral, we must also consider an Obama as deserving of our vote.
Splitting hairs? Yes! But NOT splitting hairs is the reason Obama managed to usurp the presidency…
By our decision to elect someone who does not meet the Constitutionally mandated presidential requirements, we automatically lose any moral right to deny the Deep State’s next Constitutionally INeligible candidate.
Some see the good,
others see the bad.
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And some see her as a second-rate actress failing miserably at playing her assigned role.
Perhaps, she fools people who consume fluoride as a dietary supplement?
There’s something quite disingenuous about her.
Speaking of the good, the bad, and the ugly . . . there’s a hearing scheduled for Mr Robinson on Thursday.
The latest act in this charade is sure to be yet another gross disappointment.
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My previous post up there reported a hearing for Mr Robinson on Thursday and apparently that information is incorrect.
According to this video published this morning while I was typing what turned out to be erroneous court scheduling, our good friend George let us know that the court date has been changed to sometime next month.
Also, there was a closed hearing yesterday wherein the judge ruled that Mr Robinson could wear civilian clothing at his upcoming hearing rather than the prison garb or suicide suit we’ve become accustomed to seeing him wear.
There is a website called conservative brief dot com that has been reporting on this saga.
Their reliability is unbeknownst to me since they seem to cite Newsweek and other mainstream sources and also, many of their headlines read like clickbait.
So, there’s that.
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This is the video George is referencing in case anyone wants to watch it without wasting a whole lotta time trying to find it.
And as I always say, “If you can’t be handsome at least be helpful”.
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Controversial?! And Donald J. Trump is not?!
That said. I want her to take care of her family and find Charlie’s successor for Turning Point USA.
That person has already been found – some time ago. Erica Kirk announced she is taking over as CEO. She was on TV making that statement.
Please no more family royal dynasties. The goal is to restore a constitutional republic.
Amen to that!
Just because they are his children qualifies them for nothing politically. We are not a monarchy and there is only one Donald J. Trump. We need to come out in full force and vote in the 2026 midterms and do our part to make sure the republicans keep and increase their majority in both the Senate and House. 2028 is three years away and much can happen. Discussing who would be a good candidate now is a distraction and reinforces the major Republican problem, i.e. republican voters only turnout in Presidential elections, sit home during the midterms and then wonder why things get sidetracked.
There is much that needs to be done before 2028 elections and discussing the 2028 potential presidential candidates now, before the midterms have really started, is hot air.
Will answer you pretty much sentence by sentence:
See my post above to Marcia.
Agreed, we’re not a monarchy. (Glad you’re not a “No Kings” protestor! Because why protest what doesn’t exist, right?) And yes, there is only one Donald J. Trump. Thank you for stating the obvious, mefriend. * grin *
It might surprise you to know that we agree.It might again surprise you to know that we agree. (Hey, we’re three for three!) * grin *
Take it up with President Trump, who is discussing Marco Rubio as a great candidate for President. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
See #5.
(Extra bonus comment) — An old phrase of Rush Limbaugh comes to mind. “Lighten up, folks!” * good-natured smile *
P.S. Am trying to format this post with bullet points since the number list didn’t take. Hopefully the formatting works …
I agree.
And: the conservative bench should be wide and deep, not just one family wide. We need many capable leaders to demonstrate strength through principle and knowledge and to train and encourage those younger. I believe they are out there. Nope – no legacy hires.
Well said, Fred.
This isn’t the celebrity apprentice or a monarchy where kids inherit their father’s positions.
Rubio is looking extremely competent. What a nice surprise!
Um, I’m well aware of that Scarlett.
Intriguing that you’ve posted above that you’ve read Eric Trump’s book and that you were apparently impressed. To quote you:
“I’m reading his book, Under Siege, and it’s quite good. With the experience you’ve described – and what he describes in the book he would likely make a fine POTUS if he could get elected.”
Erika Kirk? Slow down.
It’s a free country, so I’ll hold the opinions I like and go as fast or slow as I like, regardless of the opinions of Internet strangers whom I don’t know from Adam. And as Rush Limbaugh would say, lighten up! (Wowee, was just doing some lighthearted musing in response to the thread topic… methinks we need to Make America Friendly Again!)
Erick after Rubio, then Barron Trump as soon as he’s ready.
Scott Bessent.
Interesting times in which we dwell. Rubio has become a real champion of the people, as have Tulsi and Bobby. May all these things continue to in earnest to work together for the good of the American people
All that’s left for Tulsi to do is switch parties, she’ll never be welcomed back into the democrat party, why is she waiting.
Waiting for the best deal. They all want her (D’s too); to work for them or walk away, and pay handsomely for that.
Tulsi Gabbard joined the Republican party during a Trump campaign rally:
Tulsi says, “Been, done that.”
Why? They are both the same, without PJDT at the Head of the MAGA movement. Let us hope that the American People remain ‘fired up’ about MAGA.
Tulsi already switched to Republican party bf Trump got inaugurated ….kennedyjr became independent
Don’t be fooled. Kennedy is Trump Achilles’ Heel.
SoS Marco Rubio has been a pleasant surprise. I pray for his continued expanding wisdom.
The contest will be between Vance & Rubio for top spot vs. VP. Both men have their strengths but Sec’y. Rubio, from his prior Senate experience, appears to have a deeper knowledge base in matters of State…. VP Vance, while a good public speaker, has been relatively low key concerning the large Executive Branch issues in this administration.
That’s my 10-second analysis, worth about the same amount in pennies. 😎
Vance may not want to be VP twice? Although Rubio has an advantage in experience and he is doing so well on the world stage, I would give him the nod for Prez. Either man is far superior to anything the dems have to offer this country.
The best dem on stage is RFKjr and they nixed him for good. He could stay where he is as Health Secretary
with another Republican Administration after Trump retires.
Yes, that thought crossed my mind too, although he’d likely be a shoe-in for 2036 after serving under Rubio twice as long as he performed well and shows increasing pro-MAGA gravitas along the way…
20 years in the White House could be a pretty good gig…..
VP would be an insult to both.
Secretary of State is much more powerful and Marco has said “I love it.”
Can a VP also hold a Cabinet position? He’s already moonlighting.
Only 1 thing bothers me about Vance, the H1B/Indian issue.
The Indian influence is a no-go for me. The grooming legacy is a no-go.
that concerns me as well
The Palantir Thiel relationship is a no go for me.
As is the Vance who “ came out of nowhere” issue a big one one.
The similarities of grooming with Obama and Vance for the Presidency make him a definite no.
The Palantir Thiel relationship is a no go for me.
As is the Vance who “ came out of nowhere” issue a big one one.
The similarities of grooming with Obama and Vance for the Presidency make him a definite no.
^^^ THIS ^^^
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Yes, his ties to India would be a big conflict of interest in world matters that I’m not so sure he could divorce himself from.
Yes it concerns me too but there’s still time for Vance to wake up (PDJT to wake him up….) to the folly of that policy. If he doesn’t “come around” then he’s not the best candidate for the top spot.
I could see a Vance/Rubio ticket.
Or maybe Rubio stays on as SOS.
Either way, it could position Rubio for POTUS after that.
Certainly young enough.
I like Vance, but somehow mistrust him because of his Rapid Rise Handlers.
Too similar to another unknown Senator, coming out of obscurity and raising above his abilities to become President….
Yep that could work too.
Never Vance/Rubio for me.
Just remember he IS a Kenyan first and foremost!
Yhat’s a heckuva lot better than the $.o2 of most others, including me!
You’re right, Pa.
I probably overestimated. 😎
And Vance is too tied to Thiel and the surveillance state.
Marco Rubio, once thought, by some, to be an Ugly Duckling, turns out to be a Beautiful Swan.
A most pleasant surprise
So far so suprisingly good. But: How much of the “neocon” attitudes has Rubio abandoned? And how much of the America First view has he adopted and committed to? Time will tell. Also: to whom does he own his ultimate loyalties?
In my opinion, nobody in those three groups inspires very much confidence. Some of those names are downright scary.
Since 2028 is a long time away, I suggest that we pray for God to raise up a worthy leader to succeed President Trump. Have faith that God will provide.
if it were between that trio and
joe the plumber
it’d make choosing a whole lot easier
He wasn’t ready the first time he put himself forward. So the Father said, “Not yet…”
From the politician he was, to the statesman he has become.
To everything…and for everyone…there is a season.
He would have my vote.
My vote as well. I’m impressed with the job he’s been doing and look forward to his speeches.
Tulsi Gabbard / Alex Jones 2028!
The dims really blew it not nominating Tulsi Gabbard.
I would rather see a Gabbard/Rubio ticket, than Alex Jones. Not sure which as VP.
Is Marco eligible to be POTUS?
If Barry from Kenya was so is Rubio
Jones is the Insurance Policy.. no one would dare think of trying any funny business with a President Gabbard..
Excellent point!
Over target.
Yes he is, born in my neck of the woods, Miami Florida in 71.
Marco Rubio’s parents were not US citizens at the time of his birth.
He will face a natural-born citizen issue.
Wasn’t Rubio born in the US?
Marco was born in the U. S. To parents neither of whom were citizens although they were here legally. They became citizens in 1975. Marco is not “natural born,” is not eligible to be president. Then again, neither was Obama.
OK, But!! I will remind you that Congress has never defined what a Natural Born Citizen of the United States is. The definition you quote is from the “Law of Nations” circa 1758. That volume was referenced many times by the authors of our Constitution but it is not US Law. Our Constitution gives Congress the responsibility of establishing citizenship and they have never in 250 years defined what George Washington and John Jay placed in our Constitution as a requirement for the Presidency.
BTW I agree with you in principal. Obama’s recognized Dad was a British Subject at the time of Barrack’s birth and never applied for US citizenship!
He’s already run once and no one said a word.
Lots of commenters at CTH said a word.
We also had words about Kamala, Nikki Haley, Bobby Jindal, and Senator Cruz, to name a few.
The question remains, how do you put the genie back in the Constitutional bottle after the Great Divider, who himself claimed to be born in Kenya until the fact threw a monkey wrench into his presidential campaign, was given the partisan pass by Pelosi?
Don’t lose the fact of hiding his past from Americans! That’s a red red flag for me! I’ll prolly be in another world when that truth comes out!
You mean like the Big Zero? Whom EVERYBODY chickened out and wouldn’t stand out, except Michelle Bachmann?
No if reports on his parent’s citizenship standing at the time of his birth are true. He’s an anchor baby.
You forget the “/sarc.” Alex Jones?? 😂😂😂
Tulsi would never get anything done, she’d have to spend all her time reigning in Jones. It’d be like Bannon on steroids.
Team Marco❤️🇺🇸
I love Marco’s ability to communicate.
In fact, I was thinking of him Sunday when I was looking at video of Jack Ciattarelli and looking at polls saying immigration was still a top NJ issue.
I had just seen on X some old footage of Marco explaining with ease how we value those immigrants who have come legally and how really unfair it is to all to accept those who have come illegally. There are few people who can sound compassionate, yet be so fluent AND persuasive when talking about that.
Marco has always had a rare ability to talk extemporaneously as well as with a script.
Great campaigner, better than Vance but that is not a criticism of Vance.
Rubio’s loyalty to his boss and ability to support his agenda does not go unnoticed. (No intention to slight Vance.) MAGA gets to choose between Rubio and Vance (and Gabbard?) and the Libtards? Guessing AOC, Newscum, Crockett? Not even a fair fight.
I think DJT is very clearly saying that he does NOT want DeSanctimonious anywhere near the ticket in 2028 and that he would like to see JD and Rubio form a coalition right now, putting forth MAGA policies, in order to prevent that from happening. IF they set aside their egos and work together, and announce early on that they would retain top talent like Bobby Kennedy at HHS and Tulsi Gabbard as DNI, I agree that they would be unstoppable! And if the tariffs start bringing in more American jobs and the illegals get kicked off the welfare rolls and out of the country, they will immediately have the support of working class blacks and LEGAL hispanics!
Ron DeSantis is part of the leftover Republican party that has been rejected by the voters. I think Florida likes him though? Maybe a cabinet position.
The recent positions DeSantis takes in Florida are GREAT but do not apply to the national stage. Plus: the powers that support him for national office are NOT great and represent the “old” discredited Republican party and world view..
DeSantis has been “in the news” lately with all his MAGA actions for Florida
I immediately thought –
he is positioning himself to run again for president
good news – his wife seems to be fading from running for gov
it will be Byron Donalds who is gaining much traction
I agree with you 💯, Mom.
I think vikingmom that you are correct. The current governor of Florida is a pretender and should remain nothing more.
He took a run at the King wearing high heels.
Although Marco Rubio was born in Florida, his parents were not US citizens when he was born.
I feel this absolutely precludes him being POTUS, and something I feel is necessary to fight hard.
I don’t have a warm fuzzy about JD Vance, but a Vance/Gabbard ticket might work.
Were they both legitimate Green Card holders at the time? Because IMHO that would make them “subject to the jurisdiction” of the US, as opposed to BHO’s “supposed” father (who really knows?) or Kamalama’s parents who were BOTH on student VISAs when she was born…
I DO think there is a difference and that Rubio could argue that point, even while I agree that SCOTUS should clarify the whole 14th Amendment question going forward and deny automatic citizenship to anyone whose parents are not LAWFULLY in the country or who are only here on a temporary status (H1B, Student Visa, tourist Visa, etc).
PS – My own husband was born shortly after his father became a US Citizen, after five+ years of hard work to follow ALL the laws, fill out ALL the forms, pay ALL the fees, etc in order to bring his wife and two older children from war torn Europe. My MIL had my husband the year after they were reunited. My husband, and his younger brother, were both granted citizenship upon birth and I do not have a problem with that.
They got citizenship but they were not nbc which is the requirement in the Constitution for P and VP. Rubio is a citizen but he is not a NBC. “Parents who were citizens at the time of birth”
Under the current interpretation of the 14th Amendment, Marco Rubio is a natural born US citizen. I believe DJT is challenging that interpretation in court (no anchor babies). I don’t know the status of the litigation.
https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/birthright-citizenship-under-us-constitution
Rubio would be a US citizen at birth according to Trump’s EO if it passes SCOTUS ruling.
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Excerpt from EO:
United States citizenship does not automatically extend to persons born in the United States: (1) when that person’s mother was unlawfully present in the United States and the father was not a United States citizen or lawful permanent resident at the time of said person’s birth, or (2) when that person’s mother’s presence in the United States at the time of said person’s birth was lawful but temporary (such as, but not limited to, visiting the United States under the auspices of the Visa Waiver Program or visiting on a student, work, or tourist visa) and the father was not a United States citizen or lawful permanent resident at the time of said person’s birth.
Rubio is a citizen. He’s just not a natural born citizen which is the requirement in the Constitution.
Citizen at birth is not the same as the original definition of “Natural Born” as understood and used at the time our Constitution was written. From Vattel’s Law of Nations a Natural Born Citizen requires both parents to be Citizens. BUT! Congress has never codified that definition into US Law and Congress alone is Constitutionally responsible for establishing immigration and citizenship.
Correct. It’s up to Congress to define, not Vattel’s “Law of Nations”. The whole concept of “citizenship” was in flux at the time that was written.
Bottom line is the options are “natural born” or “naturalized”.
The NBC crowd can yell all they want; will never convince most Americans. That I see as the reality.
Wait a minute, wait one cotton pickin’ minute. Do you mean to tell me we have completely run out of “natural born” (BOTH parents BORN on American soil) American citizens who are naturally gifted with intelligence and charisma, enough to be elected unanimously across this great nation at 250 years of age? None without a multitude of messy divorces and drug-addled cjildren? Christian raised, faithful, true, successful (without cheating), fearless fighters for our country?
The Guf is empty.
Referencing Kamala, perhaps?
EXACTLY
Rubio is a citizen by birth on U.S. soil under the current anchor baby interpretation. He is NOT a natural born citizen under the terms in our Constitution. Must have parents who were citizens of the USA at the time of his birth. Obama should never have been allowed to run. Nor Cruz or Harris.
But that whole issue was punted by the SC so who knows how it will go if Rubio decides to run again. He wasn’t booted out the last time he ran by the requirements everyone decided to ignore. It all stems from Obama and his eligibility status not being questioned and settled by the SC . Anyone who tried to bring a court case on this was dismissed as having the famous ‘no standing’ reason.
But his parents were legally within the country as permanent residents at the time of his birth. This changes the situation completely and falls in line with the established court decisions with which I agree. What needs to be clarified: birth while parents illegally within the country or whose presence is transitory, such as a temporary student visa: THAT is the hill on which to plant ones flag and, if necessary, figuratively to die upon. NO WAY should those persons be viewed a birthright citizens. NEVER! To allow it, allows the illegal transgressor or temporary visitor to determine citizenship as opposed to the laws and citizens of the USA.
Rubio actually blushing all the way up his ears? So cute.
A Trump vs Obama election would be great drama.
Neither is eligible to run or hold office after their two terms.
President Trump should absolutely be given another term. The Comey, Brennan, Obama, Clapper, Monaco, Wesman, et al, sh!t show in term one denied the American people their rightfully elected government. The ‘resistance’ within the bureaucratic state, the judicial malfeasance then AND now, you bet – an entire do-over of term one is a just outcome (in addition to perp walks for these jacka$$es).
Then Bondi needs to get off her butt and prove to the American people that which we all already know. Laid out for all to see, point by point, by point.
But, part of me feels Trump has done enough. Do we really want him to spend the last of his strength doing what these younger men (and us!) should be prepared by now to do.
They have thrown everything at him since 2015. More than any other mortal man could have withstood. By 2028, would we really ask for more? Should we?
You’re right. The problem is proving that.
Marco Rubio has come a long ways since his days of being to close to John McCain.
How about a curveball? Eric Trump.
No more dynasties. Don’t care what their name is.
I would need to know more about him but I won’t rule him out just off hand. Seems to be a level headed businessman. My first question is who will run Trump enterprises if he became President?
Donald John Trump.
Team fewest schmucks.
Rubio yes
Vance as President, never
Vance is a sleeper. He’s an intellectual heavyweight in conservative/America First political analysis, but he keeps it hidden and doesn’t often display it. Rubio has blossomed and his statesman’s skills are very visible in his Sec State job. Together, regardless of who is at the top of the ticket, they would be virtually unstoppable.
And it makes absolutely NO difference that Rubio’s parents were not yet citizens when he was born in America. Marco was born on US soil. That’s all that is required. That makes him a natural born citizen. Period. The 14th Amendment is very simple.
Little Marco was an anchor baby?
No. His parents were legal but were not yet naturalized when he was born. There was nothing illegal about any of them.
Doesn’t matter. His parents did not have citizenship at the time of Marco’s birth.
And that is completely irrelevant. Marco was born on US soil and is natural born.
Yes if reports of his parents citizenship status are correct. He wasn’t challenged over it in 2016 though when he ran. Cruz either.
The definition of a “natural born” citizen is a child born of not one, but *two* US citizen parents.
Rubio was born of two foreign parents so he is *not* a natural born citizen who is eligible to become President.
Rubio has embraced the role of Secretary of State and hit the ground running.
Sorry, but nope. A natural born citizen is a citizen one born on US soil. That’s all.
If you look at the history and original intent of this provision, you are wrong.
If you look at recent unchallenged application (Obama and Harris), it wold be consistent but not correct.
You have that exactly backwards. By both history and intent, the only distinction was between citizens born elsewhere (naturalized), and citizens born on US soil (natural born). Anyone born on US soil, as well as those who were born elsewhere but who were already naturalized at the time of the adoption of the constitution, are eligible to serve as President. There is NO other requirement, and everyone at the time of the adoption of the constitution understood it to be this way. All the talk of citizenship of the parents is made-up BS.
Yes. The whole NBC argument is not going to change reality. I get that for some, it is super important.
Nope.
Please quote the US law that so defines a Natural Born Citizen.
I think the parent’s citizenship status only matters if the child was born outside the US. Both parents must be citizens for any child born overseas to be considered a natural born citizen.
You seem to be confusing natural born citizenship with a naturalized US citizen. Two parents must be US citizens at the time of birth. So anchor babies are not natural born citizens.
No. Naturall born means any citizen born on US soil. Parent citizenship is not mentioned at all.
Nope. On American soil too. The founding fathers wanted no one in the top spots who wasn’t a nbc (both parents citizens of America at the time of the child’s birth)American and who might have allegiance to a foreign country over the USA. Think about what the founders were saying making a special rule for those who wanted to be the President and VP of this country. They didn’t just randomly put this clause in the Articles. They were specific for those two offices on purpose.
It does not say that. Read it again.
Agree and he is valuable doing this job and he’s good at it. He should stay on in the next administration if a Republican is elected.
Yep. That natural born ship sailed with Obama.
You are wrong on the nbc issue. Marco is an anchor baby and ineligible for running for P and VP under our Constitution. Change the terms in the Constitution and make him eligible. Then you also let someone foreign be eligible down the road too.
Anchor baby is considered nbc. Born here, goes back to the homeland as a baby and is raised under say a communist (China perhaps)or Muslim regime. Comes back to the USA at say, 30. Meets requirement of living here for the proper time and gets to the proper age as required also. Runs for President. Has no allegiance whatsoever to the USA but sure loves his homeland and how they run things there. He gets elected President.
How do you think that might go? That’s why we have the stricter rules on who can be eligible for the office of P and VP. The founding fathers made sure to protect the USA from foreign rule.
I’m firmly in the “it’s too early to pick a successor yet” camp.
It’s not too early to start ruling the floaters out though.
Ture, but it is great fun rubbing the Democrats’ noses in it that the Trump Republican Party has a DEEP bench, while the Dems don’t even have any starters. Perhaps they could persuade Rosie O’Donnell to move BACK to America and run for them? Hah! The thing is, any democrat so delusional that they don’t understand how badly they would be slaughtered as their presidential candidate would just make everything even worse for them than it already is.
We need to fix election fraud before we can be assured of anything. In 2020 the globalists installed a doddering old fool who couldn’t scare up more than a couple hundred paid chair sitters in his crop circle rallies. Yet he somehow “won” the election.
Yep. There might be someone else. 🤔
Or someone that’s currently on the horizon may make themselves into a “hard pass” between now & then.
This speculation is interesting and fun.
What does a President Trump third term mean? President Trump actually staying as president? Or continuity? Key personnel committing to staying past 2028 and the candidate agreeing to this? Who knows? Perhaps Rubio is in his zone as Secretary of State and wants to stay there? 🤔
I understand the money and people behind it all, but President Trump could elevate or eliminate a person with one social media post.
Wish someone would as President Trump who outside of government and politics would make a good president (not including family members)?
More than willingly voted for Lil Marco the first time as he posed as Tea Party, he wasn’t a day in the sewer before Miss Linsey, Backstabber McCain, and crew had him under their wing.
He continued with them thru the years.
Every 6 years, Florida had to hold our nose and vote for him again.
It was assured that there would never be a republican challenger, and we weren’t going to vote for a democrat. As such he won again.
I’m happy with what he is doing presently, but the doubt still remains.
“Hopefully” he is gaining enough credibility on the so called “world stage” to continue on if he rises to the next level.
If it comes in 2028 to have to vote for him it will be back to nose holding, sorry trick me once…..
Reading around the web of different sites, many have the belief that meatball Ron is such a great governor.
What they don’t realize is all our past governors have been so bad.
We are now stuck with Rick Scott as a senator, granted he’s better than Bill Nelson but damn that limbo bar was some where on the ocean floor.
Such is Florida politics.
I’d love to hear more about that cognitive test that President Trump was referring to. Lol.
It will be a sad day when President Trump leaves office. Everyday is like Christmas with him at the helm.
… but …. a Rubio/Gabbard Administration could very well see me through pain of loss. 🙂
It will be like Losing Reagan or JFK. The good ones just don’t last long enough. I imagine many felt the same for Washington or Lincoln.
Keep an eye out on the Bush family. Jonathan Bush held a fund raiser in Kennebunkport in order to run for Governor of Maine. The incumbent cannot run due to term limits. Once Governor, then run for US President.
The folks with Trump should get a solid team up and running with no fighting each other for the nomination. Do not divide the vote in front of a potential Bush candidate grabbing for the Republican Party nomination.
If President Trump can’t run for President again, maybe he can be Rubio’s or Vance’s Secretary of State (Peace and Diplomacy).
Rubio was very popular, and a great statesman, while in the FL state House.
His record as Senator in congress was mixed, but he did seem to come around with public pressure most of the time. Not sure about his time on the intel committee. That whole committee seemed corrupt.
He seems to be on the MAGA train fully as Secretary of State. Is the change permanent and authentic? Can’t say, but it would be hard for him to peddle back. So, I hope so.
Exactly. He looks pretty good today. Tomorrow? I hope so. We shall see …
I thought Trump was getting a 3rd term like obama did.. Was the party of the jackass lying again ..? They been shouting out about Trumps third term for months, I thought they knew everything..
Well, Rubio should not be allowed to run. He’s an anchor baby. His parents were not citizens at the time of his birth, thus he is not a nbc. But who is paying attention to that, right? It would open up a real can of worms again and the SC does not want to be in the middle of this subject as they showed when Obama’s candidacy should have been ruled upon by them. President Trump questioned Obama’s bc himself. I wonder if he’s aware of Rubio’s natural born citizenship issues. President Trump knows all about anchor babies as he’s trying to change that.
Unless reports are not accurate that Rubio was born before his parents were naturalized citizens, he should not be able to run.
There is nothing, anywhere, in the Constitution or in any statute or case law, that says a citizen born on US soil has to be born to 2 US citizen parents in order to be natural born. NOwhere does it say that. It’s made-up. Rubio is a natural born citizen and eligible to hold the office of President.
Vance/Rubio. Let them duke it out but that’s the ticket I’m voting for. Vance has earned it as he’s the VP. Rubio has been exceptional and that little shake of the head just shows humility in front of the boss. He’s earned it for the next 16 years.
Vance/Gabbard is a good substitute for the ineligible Marco.
My main thought as for compensation to Trump for not having his full presidency in his first term is that what the deep state criminals had stolen should be corrected. There should be consequences such that no one would consider doing this again. Car analogy: imagine you earned your car but you were prevented from driving it. Did you really have the car you earned?
Setting aside the fact that all of those people should be in prison, Trump’s first term was stolen. That alone deserves consideration.
In Trump’s terms “should they be allowed to keep the jewels they stole?” I think not. There is only one just compensation and it’s not “just let it go..”
I think Trump can’t just be awarded another term though. He should be on the ballot. This will let the people decide.
SCOTUS should rule not on whether it would violate the Constitution, but on how original constitutional violations should be addressed.
I don’t have a feeling or any expectations on this. What I experienced in 2020/2021 has changed me forever. We watched in horror as the entirety of the system treated Trump as Julius Ceasar; each stabbing Trump in the back one by one, destroying the elections, the judiciary, the Congress and the presidency. All acted to destroy the country in those moments.
That horror will be with me forever. There is no fixing that. But it started with the Obama era schemes and the insurance policy.
Team One is the real MAGA team. Rubio will carry Trump’s Legacy forward. Vance has not real experience to deal with many alligators and swamp creatures.
After seeing how much Rubio has accomplished only since January, you can bet I’d love to see him in the oval office in 2028. I don’t dislike Vance, but his real patrons are the tech bros.
Rubio & Gabbard 2028!
Little Marco’s past lingers in memory yet, we can all turn over a new leaf. Back when I hired people I leaned it isn’t so much of where a person has been ie; work record, attendance, schooling and what not on one end of the scale versus prison, drug addict, poor work history. What is important is where a person is heading. That person who had a wonderful record could be on the first few highs into a new crack habit while the person with the poor record could be on a new high road and the most loyal employee of the bunch given the chance. Time will tell.
of course
makes the most sense
Vance/Rubio
then Rubio/?
And to join the fray, how about naming the new construction at Pennsylvania Avenue BARONS’ BALLROOM.
You’re pretty brave joining the fray … this can be a rough crowd at times. Anyways, I love your idea! 🙂
Marco is the stealth bomber….
I read somewhere (probably on X) that DeSantis has co-opted TPUSA Florida. I doubt that Charlie Kirk would be happy about this.
Rubio from a strictly electoral collage perspective might be a smart bet. He carries FL. Leveraging his Hispanic heritage could make a strong assault on California and Texas. The big three.
As the law stands, Rubio is a Natural Born Citizen. Nationality Charts:
https://www.ilrc.org/resources/acquisition-derivation-quick-reference-charts
https://gillinlaw.com/u-s-citizenship-chart-1/
Here are the Citizenship charts, come to your own conclusions.
Foreign Affairs Manual; Acquisition of Citizenship by Birth in the United States
https://fam.state.gov/fam/08fam/08fam030101.html
8 FAM 301.1-1 Introduction
(CT:CITZ-50; 01-21-2021)
a. U.S. citizenship may be acquired either at birth or through naturalization subsequent to birth. U.S. laws governing the acquisition of citizenship at birth embody two legal principles:
(1) Jus soli (the law of the soil) – a rule of common law under which the place of a person’s birth determines citizenship. In addition to common law, this principle is embodied in the 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution and the various U.S. citizenship and nationality statutes; and
(2) Jus sanguinis (the law of the bloodline) – a concept of Roman or civil law under which a person’s citizenship is determined by the citizenship of one or both parents. This rule, frequently called “citizenship by descent” or “derivative citizenship”, is not embodied in the U.S. Constitution, but such citizenship is granted through statute. As U.S. laws have changed, the requirements for conferring and retaining derivative citizenship have also changed.
“Well said, Marco …”
A few months into Trump’s second term is not the time to be discussing “2028.” All of these people have very important work to do now. You have a sitting President, and you are an important team member now. A future election can take care of itself. Don’t get distracted.
Make your decisions based on what you think is the right thing for the country, here and now. Not based on what you think it might or might not mean for “2028.” Bloom where you are planted. If you are dedicated and focused now, it will be remembered then. If you are distracted by thoughts of power, likewise.
Folks, for the first time in my lifetime, and certainly as a voter, I am hopeful of the future of our political systems.
2028-2036 Vance as President, Rubio as Vice President for a total of 8 years.
2036-2044 Rubio as President, TBA as Vice President for a total of 8 years.
Beyond that, we have a deep bench to draw from as long as we are doing our job in continuing to Make American Great Again.
That gives us 16 years to correct the insanity inflicted on our poor country for decades of Democratic mis-governance, culminating with the election of non-citizen Obama and his three ruinous terms in office.
With proper planning and continued economic/social gains we may field a ticket to keep the White House for some time after 2044. Matter of fact, it could be that the Democrats will never again be in control in this country. Pie in the sky, perhaps, but one can dream.
And do not discount Erika Kirk – there is a yearning for Charlie’s approach to life and our nation’s governance. While she may never be president, she certainly could be included in upcoming administrations.
I could almost hear the conversation between Pres Trump and Elon Musk where they challenged each other to a game of “I can make the media say something stupid”. Elon won that game with “Big Balls”. I think that prior to this picture being taken President Trump and Marco Rubio decided to play the same game. This time Pres Trump won with “he’s going to run for President in 2028!”. The Trump team plays the enemedia like they’re idiots reading a script … because they are.
Tulsi absolutely needs to be in the Mix. Whether as Candidate for POTUS or VP. Her spine is made of steel and perhaps I might even be convinced that the trans thing is ok, because she has BALLS of Steel too!
Rubio’s performance has been dismal. He is a danger to national security and consistently gives toxic advice to Trump.
Ya got that Ted Cruz vibe? Vance and Rubio should be kept as far away from the ‘seat’ of power as possible. IMHO.
RINOs should become extinct for the greater good. They should never have ‘ protected status’
God Help US
Recognizing RINOs and keeping them out of MAGA is essential for Our survival as a nation.. Hunt the Tea Party for the real leaders.
Yep, Rich Baris on this morning with Bannon simping for Meatball…so obvious.
I believe Rep Harriet Hageman would make an amazing president.
She’d be the first woman president, the first partly native American president, she is an extremely sharp and experienced lawyer, well-spoken, and she loves America and our Constitution as it is. She is totally America First. She seems to have the ethics of the old west (not the new west!). I’m not really into the identity politics part of her resume but I know that’s important to a lot of the gullibles.
She and Marco Rubio are probably two of the most articulate speakers in the country, but Ms. Hageman does not carry the additiional NBC question.
Judging from the polls which came out this morning, MAGA wants POTUS to focus on domestic issues rather than the foreign entanglements they see Trump focusing on, they want the price of groceries to come down and for life in general to be more affordable.
Perhaps Marco Rubio will be seen as too influential on the foreign stage rather than with domestic issues?
He’s the Webster definition of GOAT World Leader.
Poor Jasmine is a leaky intex pool toy adrift in the Gulf of America 🇺🇸
Yes. I believe this also.