Ukraine is not a member of NATO. The United States is the leading force within NATO. Most recently President Trump has repeatedly said that he is brokering missile sales to NATO for transfer to, and use from, Ukraine against Russia.
To wit, President Donald Trump has authorized NATO member states to deploy offensive missile systems into non-NATO Ukraine, provided by the U.S. In the latest development, U.S. Special Envoy for Ukraine General Keith Kellogg has announced Ukraine has the authority to launch those missile systems deep into Russia, including Moscow.
According to General Kellogg, President Trump is authorizing NATO to strike Moscow with U.S. missiles, launched from Ukraine. How is Ukraine not a proxy war between NATO and Russia? WATCH (prompted):
This is escalating madness. We are reasonably intelligent and pragmatic people. We have the objective capability to look at the issues from both sides of the equation. Look at this issue from the perspective of Russian President Vladimir Putin.
The U.S. provides the missiles. The U.S. approves the missile locations in Ukraine. The U.S. authorizes the targets of the missiles from their location. NATO provides the satellite guidance system. Ukraine targets Moscow and launches the missiles.
How is President Trump not directly responsible for a NATO proxy war against Russia?
The only way for President Trump to make the ‘accountability monkey’ jump now, is to exit NATO.
The reason why the EU member states of NATO want escalated war with Russia is financial and economic. Through policy and ideology, the EU/NATO members have walked themselves into an economic dead end. They are out of assets to leverage. The only way out for the EU/NATO leadership is to create a war to erase debt, expand assets and reset the economics.
Cuban missile crisis 2.0. Plenty we really don’t know about the why yet. Sabre rattling and bush shaking to expose more.
Some of Trump’s most enthusiastic anti-blob(war) supporters have already been heading to the exits with each idiotic, seemingly drunken, slobbering rant Trump unleashes. The number within this contingent is formidable. Some are new voters to Trump. Some are repeat voters with flagging enthusiasm who were still clinging to that last shoe to drop believing Trump “would at least not lead us into another war”.
Trump- was handed his easiest win with regard to the Ukrainian conflict. It wash’t HIS war. Zelenskyy had cooperated with our blob to try to trap Trump into a ridiculous “quid pro quo” (“perfect phone call”) impeachment trap.
Anxiety slowly began to rise with the naming of Keith “Mr. Magoo”Kellogg, one of the stupidest war-mongers on the planet next to Bolton and Keene.
This is yet another unforced error.
ADREM/Sundance
Please send Anon Amos Rex and his 10 thumbs up troll army back to red sleaze or whatever alligator emoji never Trump shithole he popped his inflated dome up from.
At the time of this reply, my “10 thumbs up” have reached 28. Whether it is 10, 28, or 1000 what exactly do you find problematic about my statement?
Your hyperventilating over my observation is more instructive of your insecurity. Your irrationality hampers your ability to state an intelligent response. I invite you to calm down, think clearly, and explain how my observations, shared by at least two-dozen others in this forum is “sleaze, never-Trump”, or evidence of a “sh!thole” origin.
Are you so lazy to believe leveling ignorant insults is a solid substitution for dialog or discussion?
Relax and discuss.
“with each idiotic, seemingly drunken, slobbering rant Trump unleashes.” You massengil
there are 40 now and counting…:)
Hahaha… oh, you are serious?. That’s even funnier. The only unforced error is your post.
I am interested in your clarifying how my post is an “unforced error”. Which of my statements are incorrect or “unforced errors”?
He said we didn’t have to vote anymore and that “we caught them all.” I don’t think he’s worried. Elon and Thiel said we don’t have to work anymore because there will be no more jobs. (Every time I wear my Army green shirt I get compliments.) Something is in the air.
I am not sure how your reply relates to what I posted. Would you clarify, please?
President Trump doesn’t drink.
I’m not agreeing with the Russia bombing at all BUT everything else you said with seemingly drunken, slobbering rant of Hate for my President seems you are full of TDS.
For those taking issue with my choice of the term “Seemingly” ( <- linked) i.e., “President Trump doesn’t drink.”)
Don’t be so simple minded. I KNOW that! Once you have read the definition I have conveniently linked, re-read my post. At the moment you admit your knee-jerk reaction is unwarranted – its all good.
Deep breaths and calm down before you hyperventilate.
Has anyone responding read the doggone article to which this forum is attached?
Please do so and then come back and reply.
Describes a life long teetotaler as “drunken”. Derp.
Detecting nuance isn’t your strong suit.
Russian government posters have flooded this site. I’m not sure when it happened, but it coincided with Sundance’s “trip” to Russia, no doubt.
Careful you don’t miss the signal in that noise
I missed it. Do tell.
I am usually able to do this. I am interested in clarity among the noise, if you can assist. It seems Sundance himself has noted the same concerns.
The MONEY makes the RULES, and since we’re literally INSOLVENT, the only way out for the next RESET is WWIII. The central Banks, which fund both sides has made the call, Trump who is OWNED by said Banks has no choice. It’s always the same group, every, single, time………
Thought he was *owned* by Israel…. sheeeeeshhhh
Well, the Joos own the banks so… blah blah blah. 🙄
If we do get to WWIII there likely won’t be enough left of the Northern Hemisphere to worry about banks and money.
Who here voted for American cruise missiles striking Moscow?
Our upvotes should not be mistaken as agreement:)
It is possible to reply and NOT upvote. If you have and don’t agree then click the “up-vote” again and it will remove your upvote.
Captain Obvious.
oooh burn!
Not me… Not the majority of the people that voted for President Trump.
Unfortunately, we voted against that in 2020, but Biden stole the election, and proceeded to lay the groundwork for WW3.
Now that we’ve finally started unwinding Biden’s foolish actions, we are 4 years behind and events are accelerating.
The war is on, whether we like it or not, and we have to either start bombing Europe and Ukraine, or lob some at Putin. Staying out isn’t an option, either. They’re going to suck us into it if they have to bomb us to do it.
The only other option, insane as it is, is to bomb both Ukraine and Russia.
We can withdraw all support and spend ALL our time and resources on making America great again, exclusively
I have not and never will.
So you’ve all turned on Trump is what this comes down to. Kellogg said he believes Trump authorized long range strikes based on his comments in articles. That’s the evidence you’re all using for this sky is falling mentality.
The other point is this. Just because Russia says ukr is incapable of using xyz missiles doesn’t make it true. Yeah they may tap into US satellites. They also have access to starlink. They’ve been trained in nato countries the idea that none of them are capable of putting in targeting data is crazy
Trump is being incredibly foolish. He seems to have no clue as to what Russia can unleash just using conventional missiles, let alone nuclear weapons. For the President to tell Russia that it is a “paper tiger” when his own country fought two third world countries for 20 years, and lost, is beyond belief. So far, Russia has avoided attacking targets that could cause mass civilian casualties. But firing US supplied missiles guided by US intelligence into the heart of Russia invites unimaginable escalation. I suspect Russia will take up Trump’s challenge and “finish the war in less than a week”.
First, you do understand that those 20 year wars COULD’VE been won in a few years, if not months. That is, if our military was ALLOWED to do what it is capable of doing. Instead, our leadership hamstrings them, dragging out the wars—by design. If you doubt what I say, just look at what happened with ISIS the last time Trump was involved—decimated expeditiously.
For the second part, our IC WANTS long drawn out wars. That’s where the money is.
Is it your belief when one believes one CAN win a war against anyone and has no rivals one should conquer all?
Isn’t this the view of the neocon and warmonger?
You think he’s unaware of this? Russia is looking like a paper tiger. They’re fighting a country with no navy or airforce.
The US won the war militarily in like 3 weeks but lost the nation building and occupation because it’s impossible
Russia has avoided mass casualty events against civilians? Complete lie at least over the past 9 months. The fact that people are in bomb shelters when they hit the civilian infrastructure has been keeping the casualties down.
I’ve listened to the Duran for years, stopped listening to MSM like 10 years ago. The truth is in the middle. MSM is obviously wrong. So is the pro Russian alt media
Ru complains about the satellite data to ukr but provides satellite targeting data to Iran, the Houthis, and Venezuela in addition to advanced Russian tech.
The constant refrain about Russia taking so long, being a paper tiger, is so tiresome.
Russia spelled out their goals.
1. **”Demilitarization”** – Removing or reducing Ukraine’s military capabilities and weapons systems
2. **”Denazification”** – Claiming to remove alleged Nazi or far-right elements from Ukrainian government and society
3. **Protection of Russian speakers** – Particularly in eastern Ukraine’s Donetsk and Luhansk regions
It wasn’t territory. It was destruction of the NATO/CIA trained forces that had been built up over the previous decade. That means it’s a war of attrition, not a race to Kiev.
The attrition is almost complete, at the additional cost of Western arms which are now at critically low levels.
It is a reverse Cuban missile crisis, brought about by the US IC.
I am not even remotely a Russia fan, but they are not a paper tiger. They have invested the vast majority of their financial resources into nuclear missiles and missile defense. They have tens of thousands of defensive missiles alone. They have hypersonic missiles. They could have nuked Kiev in one day and ended this war. They have wanted to nuke the US for almost a century. There are very dangerous games going on. Ukraine is not the prize here. I hope Trump realizes what is occurring here. And everyone needs to understand Russian propaganda is widespread everywhere, train yourself to recognize it, even here.
This is a simple-minded statement. If one cannot disagree with a highly consequentially stupid idea, then whats left?
What is simple minded I just talked piece by piece about what you pointed out
ok, I was responding to your comment below – if there is a disconnect: not sure where it is.
“Russia is looking like a paper tiger. They’re fighting a country with no navy or airforce”
What would you have the Russians agree to do they haven’t consistently offered?
Russia forced a peace accord by rolling over the entirety of the Eastern Oblasts to just outside Kiev in the first month of the “Special Military Operation”. Zelenskyy agreed to a settlement and sent an envoy to Turkey to finalize it.
Part of that deal was Russia agreed to withdraw from all territories beyond the Western borders of the Eastern Oblasts, which they did in good faith.
Boris Johnson (NATO/EU/Global Cabal) talked Zelenskyy out of it – likely promising mass riches.
The Donbas once again reiterated their desire to be incorporated into the RF. Putin would only accept them if they held a referendum among their citizens to agree to this. Putin warned NATO and the Ukrops if the citizens of the Donbas affirm their desire to join the RF in the referendum, they would have no choice but to treat those oblasts as RF territory and defend it accordingly.
Kherson, Zaporizhia, the DPR, and the LPR all VOTED unanimously and overwhelmingly to be ceded into the RF. Crimea had already done so in 2014 or so.
Ukraine has received over a decade of military weaponry, training, and assistance from the US and NATO.
Our “Blob” has been active there since even before the above and thru to the present.
No credible evidence has been presented illustrating Russia intentionally targeting of civilians or civilian infrastructure.
On the other hand, watch the documentary “Ukraine on Fire”. Then start digging. If that doesn’t open your eyes, we have nothing more to say to one another.
The line of demarcation Russia has drawn ends at the Western territories of the Donbas (i.e. the Eastern Oblasts) along Russias border.
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What is wrong with the ppl here?
This is a general, low level TV stooge, made for TV BS general,
who says “I think” and from “what I have read”.
The president is not going to take us into a world war.
That I can tell you.
We’ve been at war with Russia for 3.5 years. This has not stopped. It is now escalating.
Because of putin. Because of z initially but at this current juncture it’s Putin who’s thumbed his not at the only man in the west who’s been willing to give him nearly all of what he’s asked for
Respectfully, we have been at war with Russia since as early as 2011 and likely since the fall of the Soviet Union (See John Mearsheimer)
The President himself stated the U.S. would sell its weapons to NATO and NATO could use said weapons at its discretion. The President also stated he believed Ukraine could win back its lost territory. That can’t be done without weaponry. Or soldiers. Ukraine is out of those, too. Zelenskyy infamously stated that “America’s sons and daughters” would have to die for Ukraine to be free. Is that the President’s next ill-conceived move?
For real? Selling weapons is entirely different. And I don’t think ukr manpower shortage is what they say it is. If it were the Russians would have been to the dnieper
Ukraine has lost a million men. Russia, maybe 200,000. That’s what happens in a ground war when one side has a 5:1 advantage in ordinance. Millions more have fled Ukraine to avoid being conscripted and sent to front-lines where life expectancy is measured in days. Russia still has vast reserves of volunteers, if needed. But who in NATO is willing to send troops to the front lines? The mercenaries who have gone to Ukraine have found out the hard way that going there is suicidal.
Europe viewed him as trolling but then the war whores decided to try and turn it into a green light as others have. Hard to believe anyone would take the post as anything but trolling given NATO’s losses and a bankrupt EU. The post ended with “Good luck to everyone”. I took that as “ok assholes who want to continue this. You commit yourselves to this loss, if that’s what you choose”
Remember the big Ukrainian offenses where Lindsley said Ukraine was going to turn the tide? Big nothing burgers.
What excess arms can the US supply to Ukraine? Patriot missile systems? lol
Exactly. And the statements he has been slopping around are unnecessary. Russia did not start the war WE and NATO did.
These are trolls from the never Trump brigade obviously.
Man, either you are truly a lazy-minded, neo-maxi zimdweebi;
or;
you have daunting data-mining and analytical skills running off-the-charts! (*sarc*)
I have participated on this site at least as far back as 2015, maybe earlier.
If that’s true, why hasn’t PDJT come out and “corrected” Kellogg? Reckless comments need to be called out by our President.
Because it’s likely a negotiation tactic to get them to the table. He also didn’t confirm anything. Russia should also stop being so fragile.
They do the exact thing the us may or may not do with (North Korea, Iran, the Houthis, Venezuela, and Cuba)
Russia has laid out its terms clearly and consistently. Their only modification was the result of the citizens of eastern Ukraine voting to become part of the RF. Prior to that official vote by the Ukrainian people, Russia had rejected their request to join the RF, though they did provide military aid.
Even then, Russian ratified this with an official vote in their legislature to accept them. Everything Russia has done has been in the open and within the context of mutual acceptance between the RF and the Donbas.
Agree. It appears even Sundance is concerned about this one too. I hope I have misread/misinterpreted Sundances analysis in this article.
I was praying that the article was wrong. Hope it was wrong for Earth’s sake.
Me too
Hysteria on the treehouse for months over this. And refusal to acknowledge Putins role in the changing rhetoric.
The tomahawk talk is very likely to get Russia to ACTUALLY negotiate.
They won’t negotiate an agreement that allows NATO into their backyard any more than JFK would allow SU missiles in Cuba. It’s an existential threat to Russia. Period. The Tomahawk will expand the war, not bring negotiations.
The only refusal has been our/NATO’s acknowledgement in its own role in causing and starting the war. NATO “FA’d” and then “FO’d” -> oopsie! That didn’t work.
We are STILL hoping the silly games Trump is playing will have an intelligent ending. We ALL have reasonable suspicion “The Blob” may prevail again.
Must be the brown acid….
Mercy, …. Crazy monday
I hope you are right. However, if I misread Sundances own misgivings about this appearance, the claims made by “General McGoo”, even Trumps own incendiary statements, I will add only salt, pepper, and Jalepeno on the crow I will gladly eat.
Then President Trump can promptly remove Gen. Kellogg of his responsibilities regarding US diplomacy with Russia.
He made a grievous misstatement that is both provocative and threatening and in no way advances the goal of a peaceful outcome.
This had better be fake news. While pretending not to be selling weapons to Ukraine but to NATO, which by the way we are the chief money baggers, to direct assault is appalling if true. Going from peacemaker to warmonger doesn’t seem like President Trump but neither is escalating the fighting by tell Zelensky he can get back his land and calling Russia a paper tiger stinks too. Expecting this not to be true but holding my nose nonetheless.
Next, Trump will announce John Bolton as Director of Strategic Planning.
lol, that was S/ I guess.
You mean John Bolton didn’t write this for Trump?
Slow down and take a breath, folks.
The last time I checked, Trump and Putin have grand kids to think about.
Maybe the euro-hedonists don’t, so I would worry about that.
Good article – now discuss the Russian side.
“We have the objective capability to look at the issues from both sides of the equation.”
“Thank you, little buddy.” Zelensky to Trump.
https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/washington-feb-28-2025-president-donald-2592092757
Big problem if true. Deep State rules. The worst precincts of the Deep State aren’t in DC but in Brussels and London. They, and neither Putin no Zelensky, are why Trump’s efforts have been unsuccessful in bringing peace. Exit from NATO has become more urgent than exit from UN. I sincerely hope that Trump is maneuvering and presenting the Euros with a dilemma that they can’t resolve. Problem is that some of people are seriously crazy and at least one of the crazy one, UK, has nukes.
Only edit I suggest is to acknowledge Zelenskyy has been more than cooperative with the dregs in Europe.
We’re fuct.
If Trump were to go in this direction then he will make this war “Trumps” war. The Communist Globalist Left is already rubbing its hands together in gleeful anticipation. I am trusting that Trump sees the danger here,
Get out of NATO let Europe deal with this on their own. Sell them US LNG so support additional sanctions against Russia.
But no ordinances. Problem is Trump feels manipulated by Putin. Lots of good faith meetings and then Putin basically gave him the finger. He’s not happy but I do t think he is stupid either.
It became “Trump’s war” when the President stated the U.S. would sell its weaponry to NATO to be used on behalf of Ukraine. It isn’t just Putin who has escalated the conflict.
Yep. Back out of this sale, now. And disavow what Kellog says quickly.
Trump can’t take us out of NATO without the Senate, who will virtually all vote for war and money.
I could become a single issue voter over this.
No war. Been there, done that.
Pray that Jesus provides a way for peace….all they have to do is ask.
Putin has been the main driver of escalation since Trump got into office.
People act like Putin doesn’t have his hands in narcoterror states along our borders and wouldn’t further supply Venezuela with weapons to hit the US
“Problem is Trump feels manipulated by Putin. Lots of good faith meetings and then Putin basically gave him the finger.”
Not sure that is fully accurate. Putin and Russia have said all along: After Russia achieves its three SMO objectives lasting peace will be had. Of course this does not sell in the West.
NATO/EU is overly invested and does not want peace. DT keeps talking about the number of people killed but seemingly the US continues to take action which contrarily promotes additional killing and prolongs the war by ‘selling’ additional wpn systems and giving public support to Ukraine.
I think most here on this site have a gut feeling of being played…
Putins goals keep changing. He says one thing then when peace gets closer they reassess.
You can repeat your endless BS, but it is still BS. Putin’s goals have not changed. No NATO in Ukraine. No Nazis in the Ukraine government. Demilitarization of Ukraine. Ukraine to return to neutrality at least.
Probably splitting hairs but, he didn’t say they had authority to strike Moscow, he said the authority is “mixed”. Of course I understand that is Washiington-speak and Ukraine can certainly run with that. In that sense I think Sundance’ headline is correct. Maybe the President is setting the stage for exiting NATO but, can he do that without congressional authority?? I’m support PJDT 100% but, in this case, wonder where the hell he’s going.
Come on, people. This is Negotiating w Recalcitrant Opponent 101. Putin can keep saying nyet for only so long.
People have forgotten how Trump operates. I’d guess he’ll probably allow the sale of some NATO offensive weapons to Ukraine.
Tomahawks probably not but there’ll be a specter of them hanging over Russia until they stop the nonsense and negotiate for real
I’d just like to say that 8 months ago I warned everyone that Trump was alllowing himself to get boxed in and that war with Russia looked like an inevitability. The only workable solution was to immediate cut off aid and prosecute those launching the missile proxy attacks last year.
Instead, we have WW3 closer than ever. And we’re in FOUR WARS now.
– Russia
– Israel/Iran
– Houthis
– Venezuela/carteks
Trump is spiraling.
Time will tell.
You may be proven correct. But you could also be proven incorrect.
You are still wrong…
we STOPPED. War with Iran by a strategic strike.
The Houthis have been attacking us for years before 47 got in. He did respond and things have gotten better. I wouldn’t classify that as a war.
The Venezuelan cartels need to be taken down.
I don’t believe 47 has gotten us into this war with Russia—he’s trying to get us out.
I agree.
God forbid we’re mean to tren de agua. Iran isreal really? Those savages no longer have a nuclear program. The Houthis? No longer happening.
I don’t see what everyone getting the vapors is about.
The first time Kellogg was asked about missiles he said it is mixed.
The second time Kellogg was asked he said, READING what the president, vice-president and secretary of state said.
That means he has not TALKED DIRECTLY to anyone about what he is saying.
Has anyone else READ what Kellogg is saying he READ?
My opinion is that Kellogg is a loose end that needs tied up.
Tomorrow’s meeting at Quantico would be an ideal time to do that.
We can’t know who in particular has been whispering in President Trump’s ear, but as of late on Truth Social he has been effusive as concerns Lindsey Graham. And that has me very concerned.
Hearsay is no good.
On Tuesday, Hegseth will have a meeting at Quantico with 100+ generals summoned from their posts around the world. It is my understanding President Trump will be there. Perhaps we will have a clearer idea then as to the truth of this from Kellogg.
But unless I hear it from President Trump himself….or the first strike deep into Russia by US supplied/NATO bought missiles… I remain, well, suspicious.
Until that time, I keep the wick of my candle trimmed and lit…and secure my Armour more tightly 🙏🏻
Great advice about the candle and the Armour, Ms Betsy!
I will be praying for restraint….and lighting up the phone to our congresscritters.
Good morning, dear taspok…
We have the example of the traitor General Milley fresh on our minds, he who communicated to the Chinese that he would alert them if President Trump had any untoward plans against them.
And as Obama purged the senior ranks of more patriotic brass, no doubt continued by “Biden”, I look on what’s left with suspicion.
When Kellogg was appointed as ” Special Envoy” someone pointed out that his daughter, Megan Mobbs, had long worked in Ukraine. She is high profile and is an ardent supporter for more military aid, and (as you will see in the first link below) not exactly a strong advocate for a peace deal.
She has tiptoed out of the humanitarian arena into the political one it seems with the comment that President Trump’s current position on the war in Ukraine reminds her of the historical choice between British Prime Minister during WWII Winston Churchill and his predecessor Neville Chamberlain, known for his policy of appeasing the aggressor. Not entirely sure which she considers Trump to be…
I’ve left another link below also which I found interesting. One which makes me just a bit more suspicious about Kellogg himself, his statement, and her influence on him.
Worth asking I think…
I’ll leave it to others to form their own opinions.
https://www.kyivpost.com/post/47985
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/kellogg-s-daughter-to-father-loud-night-in-kyiv-dad-i-get-the-strange-feeling-the-russians-don-t-want-peace/ar-AA1GdEAo?apiversion=v2&noservercache=1&domshim=1&renderwebcomponents=1&wcseo=1&batchservertelemetry=1&noservertelemetry=1
Remember also that Kellogg was absent, not included, in the recent Trump/Putin Alaska summit.
Significant?
Perhaps yes, perhaps no.
But worth cataloguing for future reference.
Has the President Trump stated this for the record?
So in the matter of a week PDJT has went from washing his hands of the conflict of two Non NATO countries to potentially authorizing Russian strikes ?
BS
Lots of scared rabbits in here.
Not necessarily scared rabbits
And for those who come here regularly you can see those trolls flooding certain threads and they are known
4,000 years of human history says always bet on war and inflation and arrange your affairs accordingly. you cant lose.
>>The only way for President Trump to make the ‘accountability monkey’ jump now, is to exit NATO.<<
Maybe that is why all the military brass is assembling.
Would be great … NATO, NATO, NATO is this terms Russia, Russia, Russia …
Just a couple of days ago President Trump said he would not be selling patriot missiles to NATO. I wouldn’t give to much credence into what Gen Post Toasties is saying.
The Patriot system is defensive, not offensive. Kellogg is suggesting offensive weapons, if I am reading these rumors correctly.
I am still skeptical of anything he is saying.
Tomahawk cruise missles are offensive weapons.
You’d almost think John Bolton was back in the White House. If not him, then his alter ego.
Hopefully the next story is “breaking, that idiot Kelloge has been fired!”
Part of negotiations? Well Putin basically told Trump to F off by not negotiating an end to war.
Yes, and he’s trying to get his attention again.
Nobody seems willing to point that out here
The late Root Boy Slim sang in 2007
Um…
Trump, pls jump.
One minute we’re told to breathe the next we’re onto a new panic. Is it me or did someone hijack this site?
Tired of the hand wringing and Monday morning quarterbacking…plus the trolls are out…
I support our President and his decision-making ability. We only know bits and pieces…
Let him run the play…for the win…
This lightweight has been is NOT A HONEST BROKER.
I thought I just read an article the other day that Trump isn’t going to give Tomahawk missiles to the Ukes?
He hasn’t committed to it at all. Everything else is rumor mill loose talk and speculation
Whose war is this again? What national interest is at stake in this war? What is the end goal?What do we the peasants get out of this war?
I’m confused, but I’ve never played 3D chess.
I don’t like Kellogg.
Why is Kellog poking the bear? What happened to wanting peace?
I am discouraged by President Trump’s continued support for Zelensky and Nato. Who on his team is pushing for this?
Once again, we see Europe not wanting security more than we want……and Turkey buying Russian oil is another nail in the NATO coffin; someone tell them that NATO is dead and decomposing.
Take out a couple of refineries and ask Putin if he’d like to chat……make it harder for Ankara to buy its fix of hydrocarbons and push Europe into buying Texas sweet crude.
Nothing says problem like gasoline lines and a repeat of 1973.
I’m more concerned about the opinions Witkoff.
Kellogg’s statement that Russia isn’t winning because it hasn’t taken Odessa and Kiev is nonsense. Russia hasn’t taken those targets because it stopped trying to do so after its initial direct blitz toward Kiev was stopped.
Russia could have turned toward Kiev after taking back Ukraine’s incursion into southern Russia, but it didn’t. Russia could have turned toward Odessa after conquering nearby land along the Black See, but it didn’t.
Russia has been putting all of its effort into successfully reconquering the parts of southern Russia that were taken in a Ukrainian incursion while simultaneously steadily conquering the Russian-speaking eastern provinces of Ukraine.
I’m beginning to share Sundance’s opinion that someone who should know better has been misinforming the Trump administration regarding Russia’s success in Ukraine. The idea that Russia is a paper tiger led to Napoleon’s unsuccessful invasion and Hitler’s unsuccessful invasion. Two identical mistakes is enough! Let’s not make it three!
Trump expected Putin to jump at his command, and essentially said so publicly. But even beyond ego considerations, which are significant, Putin is not going to violate his geopolitical self-interest viz a viz China and India and Iran, especially when he’s seen how unstable our politics and how empty our promises can be. Now Trump has flipped on Ukraine, and it’s hard to see how the downside here is limited.
Paul1149,
You are exactly correct. Russia has always had an obstinate streak. It never jumps at another country’s command:
Every year, the Russians celebrate “Victory Day” as their most-somber national holiday, celebrating the first(!) defeat of the Nazis. Everyone – including Putin – carries black-and-white photographs of family members lost in “The Great Patriotic War,” so that the Ghost Regiment marches again. In this way, they will never allow their people to forget what “War” actually is, and what it actually costs. (The then-USSR paid by far the highest cost in blood, both on the Western and Eastern fronts.)
How strange, then, that sharp-dressed men and women eagerly flaunt War, “for economic reset.” Apparently even the USA is ready to get involved – so much for “Biden’s War” – and pretending that it, too, will not suffer horrible consequences.
The Russians will never forget, while the rest of the world chooses not to remember.
“War Is Hell.” – General Sherman
so peace in Gaza
war with Russia
orange man gone bonkers
I TOLD YOU ALL that President Trump was being fooled, lied to, and schmoozed into pivoting via ego stroking. All those meeting with the EU pukes lavishing praise on him, practically licking his leg and begging….
Pathetic.
I’m thinking these are becoming the end times. Murderous violence daily against innocents, a massive interstellar object that defies all known behaviors of a “comet” racing into the vicinity of our planet, and real potential for nuclear war to ignite and escalate quicker than it can be controlled.
Sin destroys. Come Lord Jesus.
No.
No to war. Yes to Jesus.
A “paper tiger” Russia is not.
Trump and his EU stooges may find out.
Anyone else notice how President Trump’s view’s of Russia and the Ukraine war has shifted towards more US involvement since his trip to England?
I didn’t notice.
Good observation.
The only way for President Trump to make the ‘accountability monkey’ jump now, is to exit NATO.
Part of the reasons why Congress passed a law forbidding President Trump, and future presidents, from exiting NATO unilaterally.
Meanwhile, no actual budget since 2007 …..