Someone leaked the booking record to Steven Crowder [SEE HERE] which includes the probable cause affidavit for the arrest warrant.
I will put the entire PC section below but pay attention to the last segment. It appears in the Discord communication, an accomplice was supposed to come and retrieve the rifle from the woods noting it would be wrapped in a towel.
Now that we have a suspect in custody and it appears it is the correct suspect given the reporting, and evidence the investigation should focus on how this seemingly apolitical intelligence and bright young man became so radicalized that he was willing to commit murder against someone he disagreed with on political and social issues. Dig into his social media background and I’m confident that it will be discovered that he was radicalized by on line ANTIFA and ANTIFA “Like” left wing groups spewing hatred, objectifying those with whom they disagreed.
His dad is a sheriff and they own a six bedroom, $600,000 home. How did dad not notice and what’s his politics?
I think that’s been debunked. That’s a different Matt Robinson.
Tyler was living somewhere else with a roommate.
That is untrue. His father is not nor ever was part of the sheriff’s department.
His dad is not the sheriff
Look closer at the details. Learn about the weapon, Mauser 98. It doesn’t “take down” (break down into smaller parts) and had a scope mounted on it. Look at his pants. Too tight to stick a rifle in his leg. Even if so, 100% impossible to slightly bend that knee. Look at the leaked report that we were supposed to read. His car was not taken as evidence when it would likely contain evidence. The roommate (I thought he lived at home?) was interviewed and the evidence in the computer was photographed instead of taking THAT evidence into evidence?? And his phone where he communicated with the suspect??? That’s not normal unless you’re Deputy Barney Fife.
Finding problems with a story isn’t a “conspiracy theory” until you start making up narratives of your own. You don’t have to know the truth to claim someone is a liar. You only need to show that what they are saying isn’t right or even possible.
You mean why did he disassemble the rifle to flee, then reasssemble it to wrap in up in a towel and leave it for another to retrieve?
Think about this:
If you had to run off with a rifle, wouldn’t it be easier to move it and move faster with it assembled and whole rather than broken down into several parts?
Depends on how the firearm in question breaks down. In this case, not too well. It’s an older style wood stock.
And it’s German. I’ve taken apart an HK handgun and wished I hadn’t. Like most German machinery it’s probably impossibly complex.
stock looked synthetic to me
You mean why did he disassemble the rifle to flee, then reassemble it to wrap in up in a towel and leave it for another to retrieve?
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The rooftop video doesn’t show him disassembling the rifle. And the reality of disassembling an M98 after just murdering a nationally known conservative figure, on film (as the kid had to know Kirk would be filming this event) and then stopping to reassemble it, is beyond the pale.
The Mauser is not readily disassembled. It’s a much longer procedure than you’ve imagined. This kid did not disassemble his weapon. See vid below.
Also … the rooftop video and the affidavit show the kid jumping up and running as soon as he took the shot. He bolted straight to the other side of the roof, dropped his wrapped weapon next to the edge, lowered himself over the side, grabbed the weapon with one hand, and let go with the other hand.
Finally, we don’t *really* know if an M98 was used or not; just like Oswald’s $28.00 mail order Italian Carcano rifle was most likely NOT used on Kennedy at all. The Carcano was planted where Oswald worked and Oswald immediately knew the jig when it was up.
Mauser M48 Stock Removal from Barreled Action
Bingo. There are many holes in the story we have been told. Hopefully, we’ll get to the truth soon. The lack of transparency is what leads to conspiracy theories.
Good work
The Mauser K98 is not fitted for a scope unless you have an after-market device that will take the scope, but it’s not part of the rifle. Or, you take the guts of the rifle and put it in a different stock and make it a “sporterized” Mauser (and then it’s not longer a Mauser (it’s a “Franken-Mauser”.)
I don’t actually know about Mauser mods. I know if I had one, I would keep it as stock as possible. One from the era is collectable.
His parents bought him
A gun kit
There are no “Mauser gun kits”.
The rifle had been re-stocked, and drilled and tapped on the receiver for scope mounts and a scope.
The only pic I saw of it appeared to show an aftermarket safety.
This was and sometimes still is commonly done on surplus rifles.
Not a collector rifle, this is something you pick up relatively cheap in a pawn shop to hunt with.
Damn you’re good.
I used to collect old military surplus rifles.
Some had substantial value if you knew what to look for, others were just shooters good for hunting. Pawn shops still have a bunch of the latter.
I have a sweet Mosin Nagant. A gunsmith friend tweaked it a bit for accuracy and functionality. I got it when they first became available for next to nothing. Great rifle after a few minor mods.
Enjoy it!
Some models of those were known for being very accurate.
Fascinating pieces of history.
Yes . Yes he is.
I have a rifle that was bought back in the 80’s, 6.5×55 Swedish Mauser that was “sporterized” and has a synthetic stock, cut-down barrel (still plenty long), an aftermarket safety, the bolt lever modified to not stick straight out, and a scope mounted. It cost $50 as surplus, and I think I bought four of them total. The other three were left stock and given away as gifts to friends. They were 80+ years old when I got them. A couple were in rather rough shape but all were serviceable and cleaned up OK. Just getting all the packing grease stuff of them was a chore, it was like baked on. And that modified Mauser is a sweet rifle. So easy to shoot and accurate as can be. My nephew borrowed it for about a decade and shot probably 40 deer with it. Finding ammo for it is a bit of a chore though.
The Model 96 Swedish Mauser in 6.5X55 is a surprisingly good rifle.
I had a bunch in different configurations once. Now I’m down to just one, which was converted to a match rifle in Sweden many years ago. It is called a CG 63 match rifle.
Swedes are among the most accurate surplus bolt rifles out there.
That CG 63 has outshot my Remington 40X in 7.62. NATO from the bench.
The Swedish Mauser had the best components of the time used in their construction, and were very well built. The 98 Mauser had a stronger action than the 96 Swedish Mauser, but for that wonderful 6.5X55 round it was unnecessary.
You never go wrong with a Swedish Mauser.
Sorry to drop this info in the middle of discussing the 98 Mauser and how they got modified over the decades, but you having a Swede, you know how good they are.
I paid $60 for my first one a looooooong time ago.
They are much more expensive now if unmodified.
And if modified, you just shoot it and enjoy it for the accuracy.
I wish I had the ones that had to be sold during the recession back again. Functional pieces of history.
Sorry, I’ve rambled
enough.
Ammo can be found, it’s worth looking for.
I have an original swedish mauser i purchased a loooooong time ago for about $100. Its in mint original condition. I bought it because it was in such good condition and hadn’t bee fired much at all. I haven’t shot it but a couple times. I mostly just take it out and oil it up a couple times a year.
I have a bolt action 6×55 rifle I use for hunting deer. Its a perfect round for it.
They are excellent rifles.
You got a deal. I once paid that for one that was unissued. Too in depth to explain how to know right now. That’s one of the ones I’d love to have back.
They are way more expensive now.
I never used one on deer, I’ve no doubt it would be spectacular.
Swedes happily drop moose with them still.
In the 60s and 70s, Interarms (a militaria and firearms importer with multiple BATF firearms and import licenses) imported boatloads of M98’s (German, Chilean, Argentinian) and sporterized them with hunting stocks, shorter barrels (from the M98 23″ barrel to 18″-22″ new mfg barrels), bronze bead front sights, Williams receiver aperture (peep) sights, and/or drilled and tapped receivers for scopes.
Yep. Lots of them still out there.
The heyday of good collector stuff coming over is gone. I used to love looking for the good stuff.
But it was a different caliber than factory, right?
Don’t had been customized they said at one point. If that’s true then all sorts of changes could have been made: scope mount, shortened barrel, even a removal barrel theoretically.
You can drill and tap the receiver. Mine has been done .
You used to be able to buy surlus Mausers from Roses, and other stores for $39
Excellent questions and observations.
Jeffrey Prather and Mike Adams, I’ve not listened to it yet…list so many inconsistencies and the retrieved gun could not be fired with the site on it. The story pitched is too neat and wrapped up.
The Governor talked about a drop point but also said it appears he acted alone – that doesn’t make sense to me – am I missing something?
Correct. This isn’t a Day of the Jackal weapon that slips into a set of crutches in 10 seconds.
You can’t easily break down a Mouser .30-06 in the field. It’s a full-size rifle, primarily for hunting.
Sorry Daniel, I disagree.
I own a Mauser 98 and can regularly hit a one foot square target at 100 yds. with only iron sights. A relatively modest scope would easily extend that range to 200 or even 300 yards and would still be easily concealable. My rifle could easily be concealed under clothing with the butt stock up towards the arm pit and the barrel extending only slightly below the knee; even more so if the wooden stock were cut down a little bit.
As far as the car goes, it’s possible that it hadn’t been recovered at the time of the generation of the evidence list. It was only mentioned that he had one that matched what law enforcement had observed on video. Also, I believe that the photograph was taken of the room mates phone screen, not a computer screen. It may not have been necessary to be taken as evidence, with a screen shot photo as backup and also, being that it was a Discord exchange, that info is easily recoverable from the tech company.
I agree that “Finding problems with a story isn’t a “conspiracy theory” until you start making up narratives of your own”. Perhaps we should be cautious that we don’t do so.
The rifle was reported to have a scope.
There was a picture of it somewhere and it had a scope.
I saw a somewhat blurry pic yesterday of a rifle in a box. It looked like your average blued action and 20″-24″ barrel in a unremarkable, blackish, synthetic stock with a scope sporting an objective lens of a size that one might use for a hunting rifle.
As I noted: “A relatively modest scope………would still be easily concealable.”
I still think it would be proper police procedure to take the cell phone into evidence. The question is there may be other messages phone calls and texts on the phone and the photo that was taken provided the probable cause. But you likely would not need a warrant because the rooommate appears to have been cooperating.
The 30-0) requires tools a vice and time to put together or break down.
He did not have a weapon going to the event.
He did not have a weapon jumping off the roof.
He did not have a weapon running away.
He disassembled it right after firing?
They found it within hours then fully reassembled?
Is it raining?
Would this statement really contain every detail of of evidence collected so far in the case? Probable cause statements are just a summary of the facts that would justify making an arrest or the issuing of a warrant for an arrest or to conduct a search. Once a judge signs off on this, then they would be able to search cars and phones etc. I think as we move forward his process will be made more clear as to how he got the gun to the roof. He was definately limping on the way to campus but not afterwards. As to the roommate, I read somewhere that it was his roommate from the semester he went to school in 2021. I’m guessing the roommate is still in school and he and Robinson are still in touch.
Even the timeline of the event’s.. if this even possible?
12:22 scoot’s along the rooftop
12:22 lays down in prone position
12:23 shot is taken
12:23 he stands up and sprints north
I know he has young eyes and can focus quickly but could someone other than a seasoned sniper pull this off with one bullet within 2 minutes?
FWIW:
According to wunderground.com’s weather history, at the time of the shot, winds in Orem, Utah were from the SW at 7 mph.
Using Google Maps and the released diagram, he would have been shooting exactly in a Southwesterly direction.
It’s not difficult to develop the skill to do what you described. How long had he trained for this scenario? Howlong would it take to become proficient? Not long if you’re motivated.
All good questions. When simple, logical questions are left unanswered, that leaves the populists to search for the answer. Then and only then are those people who search for the truth become conspiracy theorists.
I have questions about how he hid a Mauser 98 in his pants/backpack. The photo we saw had an oddly mounted scope (way back). I hope we find out more about where he trained. It was a 200 yd shot either way maybe 100 feet elevation change. Not too hard but not something you do w/o some training. I imagine he was going for a head shot and dropped it some. But obviously his windage was spot on. I have many more Q’s.
alot of assumptions here. How do you know its not a take down rifle? Its not difficult to make a bolt action like the mauser action a take down, especially using a modern stock.
Well he was limping for a reason, could easily be because there is a barrel in his pants leg.
How do you know what they collected and what they didn’t collect as evidence? Seems like it could easily be they took photos to share it quickly with leadership and not interfere with the actual evidence. Like it should be done.
He was young. Lots of people at that age consider their parents home as their home still even though they live with a roommate in an apt.
Some of this could be simple mistakes in wording or they could be genuine inconsistencies. I don’t see anything that points definitively to a cover up.
I think the limp was a twisted ankle from jumping off the roof.
No, the report says he walked with a limp all the way into the event, into a building and up until he was seen running across the roof. It was either a weapon in his pant leg or a ruse, which makes no sense since it draws more attention to a person.
Right, ahead of the event he was limping around through the neighborhood, on film. Looked to me like someone with something along their side, inside their pant leg.
“Well he was limping for a reason, could easily be because there is a barrel in his pants leg.”
Yes, I thought it was clearly because of that.
Strange how these little leftist asswipes all look similar. This piece of human waste looks like that flake Hogg geek who tries to takeover the Dim party
Mangione–an older version.
Unfortunately the “little leftist asswipes” can still kill someone from 200 yds away…..
And are hideously gleeful of their evil accomplishment.
Being hideous is normal for them.
I mostly ignore it.
But God doesn’t… He remembers….”The Book of Life”
Agreed. Something is very wrong re: motive and background of the assassins.
1. Charlie’s killer comes from – I believe – a Trump supporting home with good loving parents, nice upper middle class home/neighborhood. Killer excelled in school (ACT results, 4.0 GPA). This is very similar to the 20 yr old Butler PA assassin, and Mangione (the HC CEO killer) and now Charlie’s assassin. All white too. Logically, none really have a reasonable motive ++ they all know what will happen to them IF caught and they are smart enough to know they will be caught. Why are they intentionally destroying their lives?
2. In the video of Charlie’s Killer escaping, jumping off the roof and running away, I didnt see that he threw down anything, certainly not a rifle… so how did the rifle get into the woods? Who took the rifle into the woods?
3. ++ the questions others have about the rifle itself — supposedly dismantled and then reassembled and left in the woods with a towel around it?
4. Below someone mentions MKULTRA. That’s an old program but CIA/intel certainly have better brainwashing systems/drugs by now.
5. Charlie’s Killer also had no connection to this college that we are aware of. He successfully escaped too. Had his father not turned him in, he could be long gone by now, overseas.
6. The murder was well planned but not to hide the identity of the killer. He did succeed (1 shot) and he escaped. But, this intelligent young man did not THINK to hide his own identity — left hand prints on railings, DNA allegedly on the rifle, didnt consider cameras everywhere. He also did the same thing as Trump’s Butler PA shooter – shot Charlie from the roof about the same distance away.
You need to read the police reeport. There’s info in it which completely nullifies your post.
Ok. I haven’t read the police report.
Kare, I believe in the footage of him jumping off the roof there appears to be ‘something’ – looks almost like an artifact that seems to show he was holding it as he came off the roof and ran.
You have to look VERY carefully as the kid gets to the edge of the roof. Once there, he drops or kinda throws what looks like it could be a jacket (or towel) that has something inside with the long-ish shape of a rifle.
Helps to replay that section over and over until you see he toss the object to the roof, right next to the very edge of the roof.
Sometimes things are what they seem. I’ve witnessed normal people fly into fits of apoplexy over a coworker they can’t stand. They lose sleep at night, turn purple during conversations about the person they hate, and say and do some extraordinarily mean/cruel things.
And when Iask them why? They often can’t even say. “I don’t know. I just hate him.” Sometimes they know why they hate him, and they’ll tell me why, and I’ll just listen to one crazy overblown rant after another as I sit there realizing the person I’m talking to IS THE PROBLEM. This otherwise normal person…is freaking nuts. And when I don’t feed it, they’ll assume I’m in on it.
It’s not hard at all to believe a kid who has been told 24/7 by the legacy media and various fever swamp websites that Trump is the second-coming of Mustache Man could spin himself into a rage spiral and do something horrific. And I bet if the family confronted him about it over dinner (as others have been reporting) or asked him about it, that just sent him deeper into the rage spiral.
Just like every other human in a rage spiral, they don’t think beyond the hateful act. A lot of mass shooters quickly kill themselves once someone starts shooting back. The fantasy is over, they have no plan B, and they realize they’re about to get a massive dose of complete and total public humiliation. So, they off themselves.
The killer here found a good vantage point, made a somewhat easy shot against a stationary target, got lucky with the ricochet, and appears to have had no plan B. And based on those Discord messages, he may have even thought his friends were supporting him.
His father was able to turn him in because at the end of the day, he’s still just a kid in many ways (22 is very young), and like most scared kids he probably went to his parents because he had nowhere else to go. I’m sure the dad (who is in law enforcement) had seen photos by that point and put 2+2 together. Then, instead of directly confronting (risking the boy runs), he did it through a friend.
I had to do that with a suicidal relative once. If I had tried to do something, it would have gone very badly. So instead, I was able to secretly text other family members to tell them what I was in the middle of…and they called the police. The police came and got my family member to safety before he could hurt himself.
Charlie Kirk’s assassination is unquestionably evil. There are evil people in the world, and they feed on a media complex that sells them hate and hamburgers every 5 seconds.
Sometimes it’s exactly what it looks like.
It is reported that Robinson and a relative talked about Charlie coming to speak at UVU and how much they hated Charlie KIRK and agreed that he was spreading hatred. This was during family time at his parents house. It appears that T.R was encouraged in his hatred by a close relative!
When they said he was “spreading hatred”, it drives me crazy! Be specific, what hatred? What hatred did Kirk, say?
Is the hatred his own insecurity? Perception is not reality!
Why go on those sites? He must have believed those things in the first place! I never go on those bites, why did he?
Radicalized? Youtube. TikTok. Music. Friends. College professors. Books. Pick one. Why focus on the clutter and noise?
Watch ABC’s “The View” for a week or read some of the sh*t -posting about Charlie Kirk for a few days and tell me you don’t feel that little inner spark of Dirty Harry or Paul Kersey flash through your brain. Most people do, they just don’t act on it because they don’t live in a fantasy world.
Many young people do live in a fantasy world. One where killing is funny (see bullet inscriptions), men can wish themselves into women, criminals are victims, masks and vaccines worked, or Kamala Harris has a brain.
All you need then is a young ne’er-do-well who is looking to belong to something…anything, make friends with him and bring him into your group, and get him all fired up about [insert issue here]. There’s always that one guy in every group who thinks the group doesn’t take it far enough, talks too much, does too little, and decides to take matters into his own hands. Posters and pamphlets aren’t getting enough attention, so how about we put a poster on a bullet and murder someone with it?
We do a poor job as a society identifying people with faulty wiring. It’s not even a good family / bad family thing. It’s usually a guy whose head is a bag full of angry cats, and everyone kind of knew it for many years.
It is not hard to radicalize a bag of angry cats.
Very Good
You described my ex-brother- in-law to s “t.”
He murdered my sister and their daughter in 1973.
He was caught, diagnosed as paranoid schizophrenic, and sent to a mental institution.
His friends said after, “Well, he was acting strange…”
But no one said anything.
It about killed my mom.
This kid is at the age when males begin to show strange behaviors related to schizophrenia. I would not rule out the possibility.
Dear Scottyguitar,
There is not one post I have read this morning that matches this one for sheer gut-wrenching sorrow. We all are speculating and dissecting the Charlie Kirk situation with sincere sadness.
But to have you pull back the curtain on your personal family disaster is a big reminder that the most devastating tragedies also happen to those with no national notoriety. And they are every bit as significant. Charlie Kirk’s, rest his soul, was no more tragic, than the shocking circumstances of your own loss. My deepest sympathy to your family, and am praying that time has softened the pain.
Seems like a consistent theme is present with these young killers, non stop first person shooter gaming and psychotropics. It seems to be distorting reality and their brain is changed to detach from the reality it isn’t a game. This seems somewhat evident by the weird jokes on the casings, seems similar to stupid crap being said in the actual game to others.
I am in no way justifying this evil but just pointing out the combination of the two seems to be consistent. I forbid my kids from playing these types of games when they were younger after seeing how realistic they were.
Remember “subliminal advertising”? Well there’s no better tool than a computer to do that with, and no better time when someone’s intently playing a stressful game. Not saying this happens. But it’s a ripe opportunity and a lot of game devs are twisted people. They need to spend two minutes looking at which games these guys have been playing.
No, violent video games did not condition this kid to commit murder any more than Dungeons & Dragons and heavy metal music.
Please just take a few minutes and look at these modern first person shooters like the latest call of duty. They are extremely realistic and are a whole lot different than the D&D I remember as a kid. They take headshots of people in game etc.
I am not saying this is the sole reason, but coupled with mental illness and other factors like Antifa channels in Discord this could push someone over the edge.
That’s who we really need in custody, the people who provided the rifle and likely radicalized him over the past few months. No place is hot enough for those scumbags.
I’d like to see people creating false public narratives in custody.
If you can’t dial down the signal, just dial up the noise.
I’ve said for a while it’s high time we move beyond the strict bar set by slander and defamation laws and simply criminalize defamatory lying by the media and other figures in public statements. Calling someone a NAZI is a pernicious lie.
And I’m really liking this idea of systematically going through the funding of NGO’s and universities and beginning to root this stuff out. Enough is enough. Charlie Kirk is dead because of the incendiary rhetoric and smears of the Left. Trump nearly suffered the same fate, not to mention all the other nightmares they’ve put him through.
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At the very least, reverse Times v. Sullivan and progeny.
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Then find the administrator of the Discord site, shoot them in the kneecaps, and make them give out their subscription list as a precondition to getting medical treatment.
I get it but please try to remove the violence from your rhetoric. If only for the next few days, lol.
I like the way you think.
It’s curious that none of his social media comments have yet come to light. It’s very unlikely that the only time he expressed hostility to Kirk was that one time to a family member.
He was 3rd yr electrical apprenticeship, he’s working with other people ( mostly younger men I would think), being influence by his peers( his grandma said he was shy growing up) that is where I would put some flood lights and the game sites , there are grown a*s men on those sites playing games and mouthing off to younger players that are on platform, hours and hours at a time. My own grandson during covid lockdown is where I found out about it.
There are *many* adults hanging around in kid spaces online.
Parents have to monitor all this very carefully.
Gaming spaces aren’t for kids. They’re for older teens and 20 somethings. Don’t let your kids on those platforms. That’s the big problem. Parents who don’t monitor their kids at all. They’re on the internet all day playing video games with friends and strangers. My own twenty something year olds go on there. They’re single and like playing each other and their friends. But it’s not for kids.
He was only at the university for 1 semester in 2021. How does he know where the show would be, where Charlie would be, how to get on the roof, where on that complicated roof to situate himself, get away route, etc? He figured all that out from 2 hours away? Did he drive back and forth? Or did he have help?
If he was at the university for even one semester, he likely would have gotten an email account associated with the university.
Once you have that email, you likely are forever plagued with appeals for money and current events on campus.
My guess.
Good point but also, I think they may link email connectivity to the bursar’s office – no tickie no shirtee also exists.
He did not attend that school where Charlie was.
Who is the roommate? From what school or home he lives in? I thought he lived at home?
He went to Utah state university 1 semester
There is confusion on where he attended university. It was reported that he attended one semester at Utah State. This is a different university from Utah Valley
So he never attended Utah Valley? Then how did he know anything about it.
Good question.
Then again a map app on a smartphone clearly details every location
UVU is an open campus, a mostly commuter school located right next to I-15. If Tyler had Charlie’s schedule, it wouldn’t have been to difficult to use college maps to find the speaking site and to reconnoiter the rooftop of the Losee Center.
I think he lived in Orem. There are also reports of students seeing him or a like individual in those areas two weeks before. Maybe he placed the gun on the roof. It’s definitely re-meditated!
I feel for his father. His mother…not so sure.
Daddy had to turn him in, lest he be considered an accomplice after the fact. (also subject to same punishment as perp.)
Please folks, stop with this good family BS.
We clearly have no idea regarding their affiliations or outlooks.
If you have no idea of family outlook, then why demean them as not being good?
Right now I suspect the whole family and the relative who agreed to hating Charlie Kirk.
Why would you suspect the whole family. I have seen nothing that implicated his parents.
Maybe he went and checked out the campus prior to the event? Anyone can walk on campus grounds.
Thank you. This shot doesn’t require a Marine sniper school graduate. It simply takes a motivated individual who willingly and repeatedly trained for the scenario. Run. Set up. Control your breathing. Dot-up the target. Control your breathing. Exhale. Squeeze.
How did he know where and when and how to pull this off? Reminds me of 2nd Trump assassin from Hawaii. People were asking the same questions. The answer is someone on the inside was conspiring with him by providing info for him.
It wouldn’t have been difficult to figure out.
Correct. CK had to schedule the event. I’m sure there was plenty of promotion.
come on. Its not difficult. Just go look at the place a few days before and locate an elevated nest within your range that has access. Its not like there was overwatch there something. This level of planning took zero inside info.
It was actually poorly executed as far as him getting there and leaving because so many people saw him. I am frankly more surprised that Charlie Kirk’s supposed security wasn’t watching something this obvious.
He was talking about Kirk’s visit ahead of it. He had it planned out. It doesn’t require a genius to do what he managed to do. Poor Charlie was a sitting duck. It’s called a kill box. He should have changed up his security after the attempts on Trump. It’s not his fault at all because we shouldnt have to worry like that in america but sadly we have no choice. I hope and pray that more patriots will take this and learn from it.
Use second Trump assassin was a volunteer for Ukraine. His many phones were not opened by the incompetent FBI as far as we know. Coincidentally, Charlie Kirk was listed in the Ukraine assassination list.
It says here that he was a third year electrical student in his apprenticeship.
He knew how to read a set of plans and chase down stuff to find the wires..
Think of the skills he had from that job that he applied to learning his way around the building.
Electricians go up on roofs all the time to fix all those units on the roof, he knew how to figure out how the building works because that is what an electrician does.
He was reported to have attended USU in Logan, UT for one semester: thst’s up near the Idaho border. Did he also attend UVU? I don’t know. His parents live in Washington, UT, close to the Nevada and Arizona borders.
He was attending Dixie Technical College with some research is in St George so it’s close to home.
https://rumble.com/v6ytlli-episode-4771-next-man-up-bolsonaro-sentenced-to-prison.html
go to 44:14 Here is an image of the gunman that was on Bannons show showing his face the day before the arrest. his face has not been shown before just muddied stair pic…..This does not look like the guy arrested. Thoughts…something is up
The image shown is an AI representation, i.e. fake. It is not from the surveillance cameras.
Yet another reason for people stop using F’ing AI.
How do you know that? I am not doubting you, I am just curious as to how you know?
Jazz, When the police released the picture without the sunglasses a disclaimer was attached that stated the image was AI generated and pixels could distort the image….
I saw that image as well. I doubted it because the image on the shirt was so jumbled, which many times happens on AI renderings. I then read somewhere online that someone said they enhanced it with Grok. I am no AI expert, at all. but I held off posting it just because I did not want to post and confuse, if it WAS AI and was meant to post and confuse…….it DOES however look like it was one of the FBI provided photos of the kid in the stairwell which was then AI enhanced, enlarged and cropped. Someone just took the liberty to run it through an AI app which I understand Grok is……….
I saw no picture!
What sort of weapons training did this 22 yo have to squeeze off a round or 2 at 200 yards? I am routinely amazed at the expert marksmen these youth are.
Or is the evidence being created and the MKULTRA kids are “convinced” into taking the fall?
There were lots of pics on mom’s facebook showing her darling shooting all sorts of guns before she scrubbed her account
Showed her holding guns too
His family was into guns, lots of pics of them with various guns.
I want to k ow how he got the Masuser tifle: it’s by no means a common gun.
It’s actually pretty common for an old bolt action rifle bought back when you could literally just buy a rifle from an ad in the back of a magazine and it would be delivered to your house. For $50. I bought four of them like that back in the day.
Mausers are INDEED a common firearm.
200 yards is nothing for a scoped bolt-action rifle. It’s actually quite easy to be highly accurate with just a bit of practice and a good shooting foundation. Heck, I could do it and I haven’t gone to the range in 10+ years.
modest level at most. You don’t need to correct for anything really. If the rifle was zeroed at 100 yds which is common, the drop would have been like 1/2 inch with that caliber. The bigger issue is nerves. I assume we was probably aiming for a head shot and missed. Flinching, shooters typically miss low and bit left or right, but mostly just lower. That seems likely here.
I don’t get why everyone is saying 200 yards. It looks more like 140 yds from satellite images I have seen.
To be an actual Expert (not Marksman or Sharpshooter, the two U.S. military levels of proficiency below Expert), someone would have to be pretty good at hitting the longest target, 300 meters (when I was in, anyway) regularly. And that’s a much longer shot that this POS had to make; his shot was fairly easy. Much easier than what Oswald had to do (easy shot but he had to cock the rifle between each shot, and quickly).
Once again, more falsehoods being spread around to fuel speculation.
CONFIRMED FALSE – Tyler Robinson’s father is not/ was not affiliated with the Washington County Sheriff’s Office.
People are being lazy and rushing to conclusions because the first/ last name is common.
I heard his father is a pastor, maybe retired LEO; he reached out to a fellow pastor who is connected to LE, to turn Tyler in.
Source? Thank you!
Looks like his roommate is his accomplished. Subpoena all discord com and arrest them all as co-conspirators.
Auto-type/correct is an embarrassing thing. I know what you meant to say. It just reminds me of the MANY times I just kept writing not realizing the wrong word was entered. Usually for me it’s the “swipe typing” on my phone. Hate that.
For anyone confused, he meant “…is his accomplice.” And he’s not wrong to point that out. The police should have taken the computer and his phone.
They may have done. Just because they took photos of the phone, doesn’t preclude seizing it or other devices.
Heck of a marksman, any records of time at a range?
Family of gun owners. He’s been going to the range since he was 8-10 years old based on the photos.
Riddle me this… if he changed on the roof how did he have the black outfit on in the stairwell camera?
Carry on.
He changed clothes AFTER he did the deed. You can see he is wearing different clothes in the surveillance video of him leaving the campus.
The pics of him going DOWN the stairs shows him in the same clothes he had on when going UP the stairs with one exception: his shirt and pants are all dusty because he had been lying on that roof.
He didn’t change ON the roof, he changed before going onto the roof. Then, sometime after escaping, he changed again. When he arrived at home, he was not wearing the black long sleeve t-shirt.
Searching the kids family home and near by apartment right now. Do they think someone in his household is also in on this? Or this just another distraction string along.
Leaked? Honestly! How can we believe the information? I want to believe they are telling the truth! BUT! 🤔🤔
Leaks to media are never an accident. Crowder needs to answer as to whether or not this leaker was TRUSTED or even identifiable. Because without it, he should have published THAT information as well. We trust Crowder, therefore we trust the information. BUT there are geeks and nerds here who dig into details to find flaws and problems. So…. “good job!” MAYBE?
Keep a spice rack handy in case you run out of grains of salt you take with all new information.
No surprise here. The question is how many conspirators are there? Are they part of a greater, evil, lawless organization?
How many people are there in the FBI?
correct me if I am wrong, but the bullet supposedly entered the right side of his neck and exited the left. How could this be if the shooter was across from in front and to his left? So far have not seen this addressed. Unless I am wrong like I said…
The German “Krummlauf” (curved barrel) was an attempt to shoot around corners during World War II, but it was largely ineffective. The high pressure and stress caused bullets to often fail to exit the barrel properly or veer off course, making it impractical for combat. Similarly, while some experimental firearms with bent barrels were developed by the U.S. and Soviet Union, they were not pursued further due to poor performance
I haven’t read a forensic report. Is that what it said?
I know what I saw. I saw his shirt pop out where his heart would be and his body being pushed back in that direction. Then I saw blood flowing from the neck.
I know that Kirk was wearing body armor and that his shirt wouldn’t likely pop out if he was hit in the neck with a 30-06. It would have been a significant splash.
In my view, the bullet hit the armor and fragments hit the neck as the jacketed bullet pancaked on the armor.
Shirt definitely jerked oddly; yes, strongly suggesting fragments or ricochet off his chest.
Posted earlier on other thread… his explanation made sense, but who knows:
Saw one analysis by some former SF/mil dude that explained why it was an entry not exit wound.
Something about no splatter on tent behind & other yucky stuff that would’ve been apparent- had it been an exit wound.
Anyhow he also clarified how by using stills/slow-motion.. that the theory about it ricocheting off a vest (bc movement seen of the shirt) – was not the case. Also no markings on the shirt itself indicating the bullet grazing it.
Also Charlie was not wearing a vest b/c you could see his nipple thru his shirt at one point. Apparently they don’t make those with fake ones.
Theory was if they’d been aiming for T-bone area of face, the drop in being off is conceivable.
Or if you want to go the conspiracy route… who was the black shirt guy behind him doing the weird arm signaling, & while glancing to his & Charlie’s left- 2x, & immediately proceeding the shot? 🤷🏻♀️
Hmmmm. Pretty thin looking for level IVA. Although I too saw the T-shirt flare out majorly in two places; solar plexus area, and upper right clavicle area.
His body armor wouldn’t stop 30-06 at that range. It would need plates and his didn’t appear near bulky enough for that.
There should be a hole in his shirt then from where the bullet hit first. Right? Be interesting to find out.
His picture above reminds me of those seen starting fires in CA. Why is there no attempt to actually cover his face? Even the cap is turned for full exposure. In the stairway, he attempted to not leave any fingerprints but again, the cap was turned backward. Personally, this is not adding up. The real killer is being given time to get away. Pro at work.
What did we see in this event that is actually different from any prior?
DECOYS. The first two were definitely decoys. This third one? May also be a decoy given the weird flaws in the evidence compared to the leaked report.
The guy looks like he’s probably a great gamer but not someone who is capable of completing such a well thought out mission with good marksmanship. One shot, no others just to make sure. Amateurs fire several shots. This was steady in both the execution and in the escape. Does this kid really look like that? I’m very skeptical until I see way more
Look like what?
The longest confirmed sniper kill shot in history was made by Ukrainian sniper Viacheslav Kovalskyi in November 2023 during the Russian invasion of Ukraine, at a distance of 3,800 meters (approximately 2.36 miles or 4,156 yards). He used a Ukrainian-made rifle called the Horizon’s Lord (Volodar Obriyu), a 12.7×114 mm HL wildcat caliber weapon, while serving with the Special Group “Alpha” of the Security Service of Ukraine.
He was no Viacheslav Kovalskyi and he didn’t have to be.
Confirmed by whom? Never forget the Ghost of Kiev.
He was on the phone while performing his actions in front of surveillance cameras. He seems to have even looked right at them.
I’m reminded of the early scene in “The Matrix” when Neo finds the phone in the express delivery envelope. Got the phone to his ear and following instructions:
1) Walk with a limp like you have a stiff leg. That will confuse gait tracking technology (that’s a real thing by the way)
2) Wear IR blocking glasses (https://www.reflectacles.com/order/ircloak) to confuse facial recognition.
3) OK! Now RUN to the spot and lay down and wait for the sound
4) …. you get the idea.
Is that true? Was he on the phone? I didn’t see that. That adds so much more to this story if true because you make a very good point
Link?
A 100-200 yard shot with a .30-06 rifle is plunking.
There’s virtually no wind or trajectory drift with that round at that distance. Excellent hitting power and velocity. It’s a round to bring down larger game with one round at distance. The classic deer hunting rifle. It can lift a man off his feet on impact.
A child could have hit the target with that rifle at that range. And a child did.
Sir, I have hunted plenty of times and have killed plenty of deer. Nerves matter even if it’s 50 yards. I’m not suggesting whether it’s an easy shot or not I’m suggesting this was done with steady nerves. Muscle memory helps with that but it would require a lot of training to overcome the adrenaline.
There is no doubt this kids adrenaline was jacked and he still executed with one shot. It’s just an observation, but looking at him doesn’t scream like someone who has had enough training or practice to control adrenaline.
And it’s less about the shot itself and more about how he got away. That is very well thought out.
important point as this was his first murder and he’s young
He went to the range quite a bit. His family and he practiced. There are pics of him shooting an AR with Mom and also of him horsing around at military gun display with a Ma Duece and a shoulder fired rocket. Go to Lord Bebo X.
With the scope, yes. Also lying down and Kirk was relatively immobile sitting down. Hunters I know are laughing at the “expert marksman” narratives because they routinely hit running deer with similar rifles and scopes at longer distances while standing up.
I get your point, but when we’re sitting around the campfire and guys start talking about hitting running deer with antique guns at 200 yards it’s time for the “shut up and have another beer, Kevin.”
Nevertheless, this wasn’t a difficult thing to pull off, sadly. Should’ve been. But he’d been there several times, planned his route. You get in your spot, Kirk starts talking, aim for the center mass, squeeze, get up and leave. This is speculation, but tend to agree with the people who think the bullet caught his vest and tumbled up through his neck, which is why the entrance wound was so gruesome.
I really hope the entire nation gets to see this funeral televised. I hope they get to see those little girls walk up to their daddy’s casket and tell him goodbye one last time. I hope these people have to see his widow’s face.
This is an Emmitt Till moment. It’s time we start treating the radical left like the 5th column / terrorists they are. Enough.
Is a 22 year old considered a child now?
At my age, a 22 year old is a child.
And most 22 year olds lately seem to behave that way.
The police reports says that Robinson had a fetish/high interest for guns from an early age. He was encouraged and enabled to be competent with shooting guns.
Correction about Tyler Robinson’s dad:
“Matt Robinson owns and operates a family-owned construction company, where he works as a construction worker. Initial media reports suggested he was a 27-year veteran of the Washington County Sheriff’s Department, but this was later clarified as misinformation stemming from a name confusion with another individual. The Sheriff’s Office confirmed no connection exists, and the Washington County Attorney’s Office issued a statement debunking the claim. Public records indicate Matt Robinson is a registered Republican.”
If I had my choice I would kill every reporter in the world, but I am sure we would be getting reports from Hell before breakfast.
-William Tecumseh Sherman
It’s going to be some time before we get the entire story in context. Right now just have a five pound bag of salt nearby.
“Right now just have a five
poundtonbagtruck load of salt nearby.”Would you believe that this 22 year old boy had absolutely no social media presence? Nada. Zip.
Really. Honest. The FBI checked it out and, poof.
Just like Servpro.
That’s what someone said. I’ll wait
He was apparently on Discord. What I see with younger relatives is they’re not using the “usual” social media platforms in many cases. A lot of times I never even heard of the names they mention. I believe Discord is known for its gamer presence but I may be wrong. It would be interesting to know what subversive groups might be using it (perhaps targeting gamers). There’s a photo of him circulating with Antifa logos. Antifa is a domestic terrorist organization, pure and simple.
Yes it is typically used alongside online gaming, it can host voice channels and social media type forum postings. While playing the actual game many will voice chat to coordinate the goal while playing. The channels are created many times to accompany a game but don’t necessarily have to be for just a game.
We’ve all been through the greatest mass hypnosis event, the covid 19 experiment. Millions were terrified and isolated and young people were traumatized. What that has done to young people’s minds after years of being scared out of their wits by the global warming hoax plus school indoctrination is unimaginable.
Then there is the mrna poison travelling into growing brains.
And not one official has been indicted for the deaths, which are ongoing.
Which officials do you suggest and what should be the specific legal charges?
“You were under the impression
That when you were walking forward
You’d end up further onward
But things ain’t quite that simple“
Fighting back. Scott Pressler exposed a deranged lefty veterinarian in David J. Harris Jr’s stomping ground. The deranged lefty said regarding Charlie Kirk, “He is only the first!!!”
There are so many demonic posts, it is overwhelming. I decided to quit looking, it’s so evil. 2 Iowa elementary and HS teachers posted joy at Charlie’s assassination. Oskaloosa HS teacher on FB, “1 Nazi Down.” THEY ARE TEACHING CHILDREN.
We all better get involved in our schools.
The murder of Charlie Kirk will have negative effects on political dialog in the US. For a generation leftists have shut down right-wing voices using riots at college campuses. Now, right-wing voices must fear murder just for being sweet, gentle, but vocal. The impact of silencing the right on college campuses will have dire consequences for the republic.
It is incumbent on college presidents to bring right-wing voices onto college campuses in order to prevent future violence. Failing to do so, they should expect to be defunded, prosecuted, and shut down. There should be no more funding for humanities as long as they continue to shut out speech on the right.
Actually the opposite is more likely true. This first one is a test. How quickly will this disappear and be accepted by the public at large.
Meanwhile a flock-ton of Youtubers and more are stepping forward declaring they are Spartacus!!
Depending on how well the public “approval” is on this first test, we’re likely to see a series of Spartacuses taken down — I suspect Ben Shapiro could be next unless he stays indoors and has security making sure no other attack vectors exist. But there are more ways to take people down than sniper rifles. So if you attend these events, try to stay out of shrapnel range.
If it’s outdoors, it’s snipers. If it’s indoors it’s lunatics for CQC (knives handguns, even poison on a glove worn by the attacker) or explosives.
You’re not wrong that this is bad for discussion. But college presidents will never change their direction unless they are REPLACED by a complete outsider from a strong Christian background. I wouldn’t expect change in any other way.
But the days of rowdy noise makers barging into speaking halls are probably done. They are coming for more than that now. I think Charlie was a trial run on a new game.
none of these people are normal, this is normal to them. Hospitals Murder Universities Murder
I have not seen him deny this. Have you?
We need to have a televised, public execution of this murderer. Execution by the same method he used against Charlie.
I, for one, do not want America to be like Afghanistan, Albania, Chad, Equatorial Guinea, Iran, Nigeria, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Somalia and Syria, all among the very worst counties on planet Earth.
Utah has death penalty by firing squad.
Oh that would be beautiful
Good question. Why not?
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2025/09/flock_safety_and_the_kirk_shooting.html
Ok, so it leaked….. serious investigation or not?
Let’s see. White bread, middle class, nice looking, about 160 pounds soaking wet.
He’ll have fun in prison.
So much for the latest left spin that he was “a Republican”.
From the Guardian of all places …
Suspect’s high school classmate says Robinson was the only ‘leftist’ in a family of ‘very hard’ Republicans
In a phone interview on Friday, someone who said they were friends with Robinson in high school, who wanted to remain anonymous, said that the suspect was “pretty left on everything” and was “the only member of his family that was really leftist”.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2025/sep/12/charlie-kirk-shooter-suspect-latest-news-updates-donald-trump-utah?CMP=share_btn_url&page=with%3Ablock-68c47b768f086519d327114d#block-68c47b768f086519d327114d
What about Teh Saltlakian’s??? Have seen zero mention of that elephant in the room.
Was he a follower of Joseph Smith. Was his father a LDS pastor…? The family friend, was he an elder of the LDS?
Shouldn’t matter?
I live in a high populous area of LDS. My physical therapist, a SaltLakian himself, thinks the family was “that way” and that the kid strayed from the path.
Just asking.
I just pray for the Dad. What a tough thing to turn your son in for murder. Some people are just assholes, Dad may not be to blame but his life is now ruined, too.
Both families lives have been shattered.
The punk kid has just ruined a lot of lives. How can you tell those precious babies that their daddy will never be coming home? I cannot even imagine.
The Mauser 98, while well built, is not a take down piece – he does not appear to have the rifle in his possession on the rooftop.
He does not appear to have the rifle when jumping or climbing off the roof. Possibly the limp is caused by the rifle down a pant leg, but coming off the roof with that in your pants? Is it possible that the rifle belongs to someone else?
Time will tell I suppose, as like other instances, there is too much detailed attempt to bring in other issues.
The rifle was not in his pants after the shooting. He had it in his hand when he jumped off the roof. He dropped it on the roof at the edge, he climbed down to a toehold, grabbed the rifle (wrapped in a towel) and jumped to the ground. The rifle barrel was poking out when he landed, he re-wrapped the towel around it before he resumed leaving the scene.
And this over at TGP:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/09/developing-police-evacuate-area-around-kirk-assassins-home/
“Because the sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, therefore the heart of the sons of men is fully set in them to do evil.” – Ecclesiastes 8:11
It’s always been my feeling that people on the Right support strong justice because we have a strong sense of right and wrong. For people on the Left, it’s not the same. Many of them think that they support “JUSTICE” but as with so much else in their worldview, it’s unattached to anything objectively real so that “JUSTICE” for them can include things like opening the borders to millions of invaders, or burning down cities in protest or….shooting down an innocent man in cold blood.
But on the right, we have a standard. Those, like the alleged killer here, who strike at the image of God by the coldblooded murder of a fellow human, deserve strong justice, real justice. And not some hyper-litigated parody of it that drags out for years, not because we don’t know he’s guilty, but simply because we can’t accept the implications of that guilt.
Those who willfully strike at the image of God deserve the death penalty. Hand wringing about capital punishment has brought us nothing but decades of lawlessness because too many have come to expect that we no longer have the will to strike back. But it seems to me that if someone goes to such lengths to demonstrate that they do not value the regard our society supposedly holds for human life, then it’s past time we should believe them and react accordingly, as we once did in this country. People who shed innocent blood should have their day in court and at the end of the process, if true justice is done, their blood should be shed.
And not only that, but people who sit on the sidelines and agitate for exactly this kind of behavior, whipping up the crowds to rabid frenzy, and then cheering when an especially unhinged adherent takes their provocation to heart, also deserve their day in court.
We’ve gone too long tolerating the dangerously uncivil public equivalent of shouting fire in a crowded theater. When the agitators call out to their crazed mobs suggesting that the house is burning down and that we on the right are holding the torches, they know without a doubt the kind of behavior that will inevitably result. When judges give a wink and a nod to unhinged lunatics who describe in graphic detail what they will do to a president, given a chance, that is provocative. When politicians so stack the deck that antisocial misfits are let loose time and again to repeat and aggravate a pattern of behavior, that is provocative. When people who should know better turn around and start GoFundMe’s for people who loot, burn and murder, that is provocative.
At some point, provocations have to be answered, if we’re going to have a functioning society. Not because we’re heartless, but because decent, reasonable people have a limit to the amount of provocation they can overlook. And when your enemy works overtime to tell you what he thinks of you, and what he will do to you if given a chance, and begins to do it, then reasonable people take them seriously.
They, the unhinged, are not children, despite all appearances. Sometimes the adults have to step up and re-establish order. It’s the decent thing to do.
J
Hi Jonrilus,
I liked you first paragraph. I don’t know if you have seen his work, but Jonathan Haidt has explored that in depth and calls it “The Conservative Advantage“.
“In his remarkable book The Righteous Mind: Why Good People are Divided by Politics and Religion, Haidt recalls a telling experiment.
He and his colleagues Brian Nosek and Jesse Graham sought to discover how well conservative and what Haidt terms ‘liberal’ (ie: progressive) students understood one another by having them answer moral questions as they thought their political opponents would answer them.
“The results were clear and consistent,” remarks Haidt. “In all analyses, conservatives were more accurate than liberals.”
Asked to think the way a liberal thinks, conservatives answered moral questions just as the liberal would answer them, but liberal students were unable to do the reverse.
Rather, they seemed to put moral ideas into the mouths of conservatives that they don’t hold.
To put it bluntly, Haidt and his colleagues found that progressives don’t understand conservatives the way conservatives understand progressives.”
Here is a talk that goes more into it:
Jonathan Haidt Lecture on Morality at Stanford
“Liberals have a one channel morality and conservatives have a five channel morality. “
After understanding that my question now is: “If you have a government and intelligence community that is very progressive / liberal, how are they going to understand and interact with the rest of the world?” I think this may be the foundational reason we have so many foreign policy problems ??? An inability to see the other nation’s / culture’s point of view.
I suspect that professor Haidt and I have different ontological worldviews, but still it was informative to hear his thoughts, so thanks for sharing the link.
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His latest book, The Anxious Generation, is worth a read. He slams screen use, which, according to the research he cites, has rewired the brains of the very young.
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Find the accomplice.
I don’t know how to articulate it, but this is where I have issues w/”the media” being behind closed doors and being told so much. “Leaks”. They all know each other and then act on camera like they don’t. Anyway, I guess my point is the Right does it too, just as bad as the left, and some of them are the power brokers. It irks me that they get to have a say in so much as media people instead of being elected officials. They all want the scoop, be firstest w/the mostest for click bait, and half the time the info is wrong or misconstrued. Just a peeve of mine.
I didn’t know Crowder was still around, last I saw of him was a video of him being abusive to his pregnant wife, and that was the last I wanted to see of him.
I still hold we will never know the full truth about this story.
Maybe Crowder and Kilmar Abrego Garcia could get married … … … to each other.
I saw this video yesterday when the shooter was running to get off the and I wrote this last night before this current news came out today so here goes,
The shooter in the video coming off the roof confused me at first because I couldn’t find the rifle in the crappy video provided from the campus camera especially hearing they found the alleged rifle in the woody area prior to seeing this video.
So I went through this video over and over until I finally discovered the rifle. The barrel was inside the sleeve of his jacket (sleeve is straight) when he used the sling to set the rifle down into what appears to be a commercial grade gutter or ledge. He switched hands from right sling hold (floating jacket) to left (new sling hold) so he can position himself before climbing/jumping down.
If you watch closely, he grabs the barrel inside the jacket sleeve that’s in the gutter/ledge with his right hand and jumps. When he lands he injures his right leg, grabs something off the ground to his left (not sure what) then holds the barrel by the jacket and walks/limps off to the street.
He was also wearing a bulletproof vest under his long sleeve black shirt. Photographed images verify this. Look closely.
Why is this so important? They (LEO) described a rifle found in the woods allegedly belonging to him but when the details of the roof escape happen, they never mentioned the rifle from the time he’s running on the roof all the way to the street. In a court of law, allegedly holds no water and would be dismissed. This a a crappy video as we all can clearly see and I’m sure they would be able to enhance the video to confirm the rifle belongs to the shooter. That’s if he doesn’t confess first.
Talking about pants, shirts and possibly converse sneakers with white souls and all, is great, but they need that rifle before he exits that roof, otherwise, if he doesn’t confess it’s going to be tough to incriminate him. If his finger prints connect him to the rifle then they got their guy. Let’s just hope a different rifle wasn’t placed in the woods. I say this because they used the words “What we believe was the weapon that was used in yesterday’s shooting.”
Fingers crossed.
*For non-shooters, when shooting in a prone position, a sling is required. It’s what you use to weave around your wrist and forearm to keep the rifle stable. When getting elevations, all shooters start at 100yds and move out from there, keeping a journal of each yardage. There’s also a shooter’s personal wind zero but that’s beyond the simple basics. This guy was NOT a professional. But he knew his rifle I’ll give him that.
From The Guardian:
Suspect’s high school classmate says Robinson was the only ‘leftist’ in a family of ‘very hard’ Republicans
Anna Betts
In a phone interview on Friday, someone who said they were friends with Robinson in high school, who wanted to remain anonymous, said that the suspect was “pretty left on everything” and was “the only member of his family that was really leftist”.
“The rest of his family was very hard Republican,” the friend said. Around sophomore year, the friend said, Robinson became more extreme in his political views and would “always just be ranting and arguing about them”.
The friend said that they played video games together a lot in high school and noted that the bullet engraving with the arrows was a reference to Helldivers 2 – which we mentioned earlier. He said that the arrows specifically were in reference to “calling in a big bomb that exists” in the game “called the 500 kilogram”.
When the friend saw the news on Friday, he said that he was shocked. “I knew he [Robinson] had strong political views, but I never thought it would even go near that far.”
The friend said that he has not spoken to Robinson in years and began to drift apart toward the end of high school. Another high school classmate separately told the Guardian that the friend and Robinson were close in school and would play video games.
Why does this Tyler dude look like the guy with the megaphone in Sundance’s video in a debate with Charlie Kirk? The resemblance is uncanny.
Yesterday evening, Daily Mail had an exclusive about investigators visiting a guy in Salt Lake City. Is it possible that’s Tyler’s roommate? I don’t know if the guy was cleared or not. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15090351/FBI-Jason-Hartley-person-Charlie-Kirk-shooting.html
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Nevermind on possible roommate. Tyler was going to school in St George UT, but this other guy from the article lives in Salt Lake City which is pretty far away. Maybe investigators visited him because of a bad tip.
Moderators, if you want to delete my comments about this I’m OK with it. They’re of no value now.
Just a little more insanity —-
Four books already available to buy on Amazon all about the “Shooting of Charlie Kirk”.
One was posted the day before the shooting.
https://100percentfedup.com/bombshell-amazon-listing-shows-shooting-charlie-kirk-book/
Yup, no matter who it is, people will grandstand on other peoples misery and loss. “Let’s talk about… become a subscriber…”. “Buy my book” Yada, yada, yada!
Absolutely despise this crap and I just wish people would stop supporting it.
IMHO
Writing a book about a tragedy for profit is one thing, but writing a book about a tragedy and putting it up for sale a day before the tragedy happens is somewhat insane.
FBI agents are investigating doorbell camera footage which allegedly shows Robinson talking into a mobile phone about the shooting moments after the assassination.
https://www.the-sun.com/news/15177419/kirk-robinson-murder-accomplice-probe/
I thought I was done crying, but watching the vigil in the video at the top of that article made me lose it.
The faces of the deeply affected children.
I’m not seeing anything in the Discord post about an accomplice. The roommate is showing the investigator several Discord messages from Tyler Robinson basically live-posting what he was doing, like hiding the rifle wrapped in a towel, that he engraved the bullets, and changing clothes.
Since the investigators found a rifle wrapped in a towel and the engraved bullets just like in the Discord post, they’re saying in the arrest warrant that they have probable cause. There’s no way the Tyler in the Discord posts could have known those things unless he was the perp, and the roommate is confirming that the Tyler in the Discord posts is Tyler his roommate…Tyler Robinson.
The affidavit does not say that the Discord messages were between Tyler Robinson and others. It says the messages were between Robinson and the roommate who showed the investigators the messages. It does say there were various messages, so it is possible they have other witnesses to talk to. Whether they knew in advance or not remains to be seen.
They have to rule out whether the message recipients knew about Robinson’s plans. With the benefit of hindsight, a lot of people over the years have learned they were sitting on evidence of a planned murder and didn’t realize their friend was not joking around. An example is the girl who helped the Columbine murderers buy their guns. What she did was horribly wrong and illegal, but she was never prosecuted as an accomplice.
Hopefully, the roommate realized this and that’s why he showed the messages. Because if he covers that up, he immediately becomes an accomplice either to the murder or obstruction of justice and lying to investigators afterwards.
Who’s behind it? Robinson made comments on discord “discussing retrieving a rifle from a drop point and then leaving the rifle in a bush wrapped in a towel.”
The rifle was conveniently not picked up by “the assailant” so no need to look any further. Case closed?
“JUSTICE FOR CHARLIE. FIRE PAM BONDI!”
Trump said today on Fox abd Friends that Pam Bondi was doing a great job and he was proud of her. He has said that numerous times. So, she is who we got as AG and I guess we better get used to it.
Waterboard him.
Whatever it takes, do it.
He has the eyes of a psychopath. Many are very intelligent and high functioning. They are great actors at blending in and saying the right things. I doubt his family had a clue to what he had become. Knowing his father was in law enforcement answered my questions about his skill with a gun. He probably had much practice and knowledge. From his mother’s FB it appears his family was normal and not where he became indoctrinated.
Does anyone know if Ukraine and Russia still exist? How about NATO? How about China? Israel and Gaza? Is there still a Chicago?
All these things that Fox News talked about incessantly three days ag, they now don’t even say 2 syllables about.
This is like the movie The Day the Earth Stood Still, but that was for only 30 minutes and it was science fiction.
Huh
Klaatu barada nikto.
And they eventually shot dead Klattu, too.
Except he had Gort to add an extra 20 minutes to the film.
How does someone good,
change,
‘become’
( miss lead ) ?
Choose your friends and associates wisely,
( or not ).
[ someone’s have been funding, and sickly miss guiding. propagandizing
not good notions
into
good people that then lose touch with goodness.
That miss guidance – by whomever(s) needs public scrutiny and transparency …
( some school administrators etc. are getting deserved attention for celebrating / encouraging a human death to easily influenced people ) ]
p.s.
Is all it takes for evils to prevail
is for the good to do nothing.
So, the good can learn and help.
Thank you Charlie for listening, learning and talking with people with wisdom and deep. common sense and amazing intellect to connect facts.
You with many, many others
‘ figured it out’
and
‘ kept working on it ‘.
And there is more good works to do. The more the better – for all.
Love thy neighbors
James 2:22