President Trump sent out a very strong message on Truth Social today. “[M]y PAST supporters have bought into this “bullshit,” hook, line, and sinker,” Trump said. Adding, “I don’t want their support anymore!”
President Trump was then asked why he thought his supporters were so focused on the Jeffrey Epstein saga during an impromptu press conference. Response Below:
Obviously President Trump wants his supporters to drop talking about this story, and I must admit I was wrong. I earnestly believed someone close to President Trump would explain why his support base was/is focused on the Epstein scandal as representative of government control of information.
While the “Epstein stuff” in general has never been a subject of great interest here, I simply cannot explain this level of disconnect toward those to whom the story is important. This is new because President Trump has always reflected his understanding of his hardcore base of support, even when the details were difficult to understand.
PRESIDENT TRUMP – “The Radical Left Democrats have hit pay dirt, again! Just like with the FAKE and fully discredited Steele Dossier, the lying 51 “Intelligence” Agents, the Laptop from Hell, which the Dems swore had come from Russia (No, it came from Hunter Biden’s bathroom!), and even the Russia, Russia, Russia Scam itself, a totally fake and made up story used in order to hide Crooked Hillary Clinton’s big loss in the 2016 Presidential Election, these Scams and Hoaxes are all the Democrats are good at – It’s all they have – They are no good at governing, no good at policy, and no good at picking winning candidates.
Also, unlike Republicans, they stick together like glue. Their new SCAM is what we will forever call the Jeffrey Epstein Hoax, and my PAST supporters have bought into this “bullshit,” hook, line, and sinker. They haven’t learned their lesson, and probably never will, even after being conned by the Lunatic Left for 8 long years.
I have had more success in 6 months than perhaps any President in our Country’s history, and all these people want to talk about, with strong prodding by the Fake News and the success starved Dems, is the Jeffrey Epstein Hoax. Let these weaklings continue forward and do the Democrats work, don’t even think about talking of our incredible and unprecedented success, because I don’t want their support anymore!
Thank you for your attention to this matter. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!” (TS: 16 Jul 13:43 UTC)
I have never seen an issue divide the support base of President Trump like the DOJ/FBI response to the “Epstein file” inquiries. This is very unfortunate and completely avoidable.
I wonder if Israel Leaders told Trump. Dear President Trump, a very good friend to Israel, please, please help us in our fight against Iran, who HATES us and wants all Israel destroyed. Mr President, they are bombing us with missiles, … and they are very close to creating Nukes!
And Trump got advice from others in USA government of what our options are. Makes sense.
Then Trump decided to drop the BIGGEST BOMB in the WORLD and flown by the BIGGEST badass Aircraft in the WORLD on IRAN to destroy sites creating the Nukes in IRAN . And in exchange for that Israel will tell people in USA to sign the BBB. And Trump is told DEEP SIX the epstein files for us, Mr President.
could be.
The “client list” is completely corrupted at this point.
But the people that would have been on that list weren’t “clients”. They were marks , or targets.
Epsteins “clients” were the people he provided coercive leverage to.
Was he providing American agencies with the ability to coerce people of power and influence?
If so, which agencies was he providing this to?
If so, what were said agencies able to achieve with what he provided?
The corruption in the agencies should be our focus.
It’s not just the client list! If there ever was one this scandal is so much deeper then the sex crimes, which are certainly evil enough.
So their are really two parallel corrupt and immoral activities going on……
corrupt activity 1: Epstein working on behalf of one or more Intel Agencies (Israel? U.S.? others?) to entrap/blackmail rich, powerful men in various domains…politics, business, industry etc in order to control money, currency and amass power to a “Deep State” cabal.
corrupt activity 2: The illegal trafficking of underage girls to enable corrupt activity 1 AND the corrupt, illegal and immoral participation by some…not all….of the “marks”.
So the corruption must focus on both the intel agencies and governments involved and the men who knew what they were doing was immorally wrong and bankrupt and yet did it anyway. Let Justice Be Done Though the Heavens Fall.
They may have been MARKS but they were also willing CLIENTS!
It’s another psyop. I absolutely agree with 47 and support him 💯
YEP, a CIA PSYOP Led by CIA MOCKINGBIRD [press secretary] Alex Jones, Tucker and many more so-called X influencers. Even Musk is spreading misinformation to sow Chaos with MAGA!
yup….absolutely no crimes committed here…move along, nothing to see. I support PDJT 100% but I totally disagree with the trending view by many on these pages that the Epstein files should just be buried and never brought to the light of day. No matter how badly AG Bondi botched this, innocent underage girls were still trafficked for illegal and illicit purposes. Powerful business men were still participants in illegal sexual activity AND also blackmailed by multiple intel services through the activities of Epstein. The Epstein list should be exposed along with all the intelligence officers in the CIA and other US Agencies that used him and/or benefitted from the resulted blackmail. Criminal prosecutions of corrupt intel agency employees and those powerful businessmen and politicians that participated in this should be held in the open with harsh justice imposed on all. This is the only way to destroy the corrupt intel agency power over our government.
If this was about anything but sex it would have died long ago. Salacious sells. The media and some Republicans wallowing in it lijke pigs in slop. And the Dems loving the show. I do n6t believe Epstein had the power he continues to be erroneously invested with.
Initially it was an attempt to tie Trump to Epstein. Then and all of a sudden the story collapsed because Clinton was a frequent flyer and the evidence was clear as were several prominent leftists, so they had to make it go away. Yes it is a psyop to undermine Trump and anyone after him he recommends for the job. The CIA is not MAGA, it is globalist information source for power. CIA left it’s general working directive along time ago.
Trump should have dismantled the CIA on day one. Not sure why he didn’t.
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I believe MILLIONS of rank and file MAGA’s, like myself, could care less about Epsteingate. It’s of course 99.99% media driven, anti Trump media claiming we’re discombobulated over it, and MANY supposedly on our side MAGA media droolers, and self important worthless “influencers”, parroting the same. List or no list notwithstanding 1- Epstein is dead. 2- Even if Trump and Epstein were maybe somehow friends/acquaintances at one time, Trump very most likely NEVER personally partook regarding the Epstein females. The latter being what Trump haters are REALLY insinuating and attempting to “get at”. It ain’t there. Shut up… move on…
for me, I don’t care about the Trump Epstein past relationship. if there was anything to it, the Democrats would’ve exploited it years ago what I care about are the affected children and the lack of transparency for the criminal’s exposure. Trump is handling this terribly, but it must be for a reason unknown at this time.
In order for all the well-meaners to give “juistice” to the young women who allowed themselves to be exploited by Epstein and Maxwell,, they too will have to be exposed. Now wives, mothers, they will pay a heavy price for something they have managed to move on from. Is that wjjat you want? They know Epstein is dead and Maxwell in prison. As far as they are concerned, I’ll bet that constitutes justice. Are you really eager to throw them under the bus in the name of “justice” that they themselves are not seeking now?
It’s not just the sex scandal! Please understand that it is all the blackmail related to treason that matters! That’s why this is important. Epstein,‘s operation was about control, and you have To understand that the Epstein scandal is tied into why America is the way it is at this point in time. We can’t just bury this and get on with it.
I don’t recall that there was any evidence of blackmail. Only internet conjecture.
agreed, he is dead, we are not and our country is in trouble. it’s a distraction from what needs to get done.
I HAVE BEEN ON THE TRUMP TRAIN FROM DAY ONE
CUT THE CRAP AND…….SUPPORT PRESIDENT TRUMP
don’t be a Democrat, ask questions because we certainly have enough of them. that is our duty.
Democrats do not ask questions – questions require truths and facts for an accurate answer.
democrat Trolls, on conservative sites do … and have gone from Russia-Russia-Russia to Epstein-Epstein-Epstein. Desperately hoping Epstein will split MAGA … wrong again demonRATS.
MAGA means freedom to think for oneself without being told what beliefs and policy choices are “acceptable”, where to stand, what to do, what to think. This transcends any man.
I’m fine letting the list go and declaring justice served in the matter *IF* PDJT explains why in a way that makes sense. I’m not fine just because he declares me stupid if I don’t fall in line just because.
And freedom for you to continuously imply President Trump is a pedophile or covers up for them.
Past.
That’s your implication, not mine.
THIS 👆
It’s your implication.
You just know you have to avoid that to stay here
Because…….you said so?
Then why read Sundance and all the information given us? Proverbs 11:14 where no counsel is, the people will fall. But in the multitude of counselors there is safety.
So shut up, don’t ask questions and support the President…that sounds like a liberal democrat talking. I support PDJT but the corruption, treason and blackmail in the intel services related to Epstein must be revealed to sunlight and prosecuted such that individual intelligence community officials go to jail for treason, blackbmail and thereby enabling PDJT to regain control of the rogue deep state intel community which currently stands opposed to the MAGA movement.
Does he have a Christ complex? Does he think we have a need to be accepted by him? We will support his policies with which we agree. We won’t support those with which we disagree. Some Trump supporters almost worship him. It seems that Trump has accepted that worship. Woe unto him!
There is only one who can save this country.
When will you let go of human intellect and understanding, and Look to Me alone?
agreed, I was shocked when I heard Trump say he didn’t want support from people that were interested in the Epstein documents. it’s our right and our duty as citizens to ask questions
Because you felt guilty and that it implied to you.
Keep implying you think President Trump is a pedophile or covers up for them.
Great look
That’s a huge jump to get to that assumption. I feel no guilt questioning anything that feels wrong. And I certainly don’t think PT is a pedophile.
It’s unfortunate his comments have caused an even bigger reaction than the original announcement closing the case. I hope we’re all praying for him.
My take? He is fed up with sunshine sailors… He has given his all for now two terms to get America on the right track for us, not even taken a salary and even taken a bullet intended to kill him. I am fed up too…with the ingrate so-called MAGAs. Some are pretty unimpressive right now.
To borrow a phrase:
“UGH.
All of it.”
Is it just me or do the words “paid activist” seem more and more a reality on these threads lately?
A reality, for sure.
My issue is less the transparency and more the hubris of the President in attacking his supporters.It is certainly shortsighted but a leader’s popularity hinges far more on what they do tomorrow than yesterday. The President’s agenda unfortunately relies in slim majorities in both houses of Congress.Republican voters are notorious for not showing up in midterms.I think sometimes we deceive ourselves in thinking this site is a microcosm of the MAGA movement as a whole when in fact this group is much more aware of political complexities,far more well researched,and perhaps more prone to see the bigger picture than MAGA Joe and Jane.Perhaps the polls will prove me wrong but given the President’s latest turnarounds on promises made in terms of the release of these files,his attack in those if us opposed to amnesty for any illegals and his willingness to provide more arms to Ukraine,will not sit well with some in the MAGA movement and could very well jeopardize his agenda in the future.The loss of even one house of Congress next year will do just that.
The List was important, now it’s not…? That list is the tip of the corruption/criminal iceberg. You can’t complain about the Clinton’s, Obama, Ukrainian kickbacks to our politicians, sham impeachments, Israeli influence over our government, while declaring the list to be BS. Trump has been fighting these people, on our behalf, since 2015. The FBI’s previous lack of interest in this case, and others (Garland, TX, Pulse Club, Vegas) was supposed to be remedied when ’47 got into office. Now, we get nothing but a Go F*** Yourself?
Yes. Very weird.
Low IQ not weird
It’s enjoying fantasy, being a sucker.
It’s feeling like you alone care about children and are going to save this global ring with millions of kids and elites.
Insanity.
If you know so much. How come you don’t know the recent victim death’s father drove her to Epstein to learn how to massage a grown man.
Knowingly
The influencers screamed the word list for years to create a life of its own.
So the public sphere talked of it until it became an object.
You got bent over by ‘ toxic sludge is good for you’ and our lack of energy is why that book will never be looked up to get the point.
And no this isn’t a puzzle. I’ve tried to explain PR Firms do kill, they are paid to influence the same as the CIA
Domestic PR
The prominent people in the photo holding the Epstein files binders are conservative influencers Jack Posobiec, Laura Loomer, Liz Wheeler, Scott Presler, and Rogan O’Handley (DC_Draino). The event was a February 2025 White House briefing on released documents.
Megyn Kelly interviewed Liz Wheeler just a few days ago regarding that very fiasco. Wheeler said a few things that really caught my attention. One, she said the whole point of the visit was to show that more access was going to be given to alternative media and that most the day was meeting various administration heads.
Two, when they met with Pam ‘Blondi’, she gave them the binders and told them up front, there is no new information in the binders. That it was essentially a token of things to come, essentially.
Yes, the things to come… “nothing”.
No doubt. But you should ask yourself as well… who lied to you about those binders?
Because Pam didn’t know that.
Alert alert
She was Mike flynn’d
” Do you have the list” asked on the day the reporter knows the files are going to her desk
She Mike flynn’d. They laugh and know this is never gonna end now
Booom just like that a past supporter forgets the thousands of children stopped from being tree raped then sold. Or the rings being busted recently.
They forget the successes immediately
As if , they really don’t care about kids, they just are trained to bark epstein
GREAT insight!
Unfortunately, GOP+ learns very slowly.
the point of the binders is to undermine trust, just like putting beth white (kenneth copeland) in as a spiritual advisor, its to undermine Protestantism and push you toward the catholic beast.
Laura Loomer was not there. I think there are so many conservatives and Republicans that have been dreaming for years that Epstein would be the Lynch pen to jail Hillary Clinton, etc. that they just can’t get over the fact that there is no evidence pointing to any of that. Could prominent people actually be involved in pedophilia yes, in my opinion greater than a 70% chance. But that doesn’t mean that they have proof.
The Epstein List was released in 2024 as part of the Maxwell trial. Maxwell crime was the procurement of minors for sex regardless if the minors was for “clients” or not. The fact that minors were solicited is the crime.
Every commenter complaining hasn’t even looked at the 3 list available
The list is on video, not on paper.
Netanyahu came and told Trump
“we cannot kill you now, we have tried, but your family, Ivanka, Jared, your children and grandchildren, we will kill them.”
And we see the result, we can hear it on every news station : ISRAEL IS YOUR ALLY, OBEY, PEASANTS.
John Redmond
Receipts? Link? Tape?
Come on “ Man”
So, your argument is that Israel has a better ‘wet-works’ operation than the US? I doubt it. This scenario, at best, would be akin to MAD during the height of the cold-war.
President Trump has severely mis-read the room on this issue. I’m not giving him any lee-way that ‘he got bad advice!’ or any other water-carrying that’s going on right now. He said the things that he said after campaigning on this very issue and the whole notion of transparency and swamp-draining.
This issue is very close to the abortion issue for a lot of his (apparently ‘past’?) supporters. He is a staunch anti-abortion guy, so it boggles me why he’d be so dismissive and ugly about this issue suddenly.
There’s a dozen obvious questions that’ve already been outlined that put the lie to this just being some goofy media hoax. That is going to to down as one of the all-time worst takes by a politician. This is P. Trump’s “definition of ‘is'” moment.
This was not a hoax. Does not everyone remember that when the first news of this case started to come out… none other than Nancy Pelosi’s dingbat daughter immediately came out with a comment along the lines of “ok friends, this case is about to blow up.. and some of our favorites may be involved.. stay strong blah blah ignore the bad behavior” ??
So, the ‘its been a hoax-pushers’ are trying to tell me that they have been playing such a ‘long-game’ this whole time that they got NanNan’s dingy daughter in on it on day-freaking-one?
That doesn’t pass the smell test.
This is edging towards 1984 and ‘Double Think’ the longer this goes uncorrected.
What makes you think Trump is a staunch anti-abortion guy?
His justices on SCOTUS overturned Roe v Wade, to be sure. But he has said he would veto any national abortion ban presented to him.
He is pragmatic on this issue, as am I.
By turning this back to the states (where it always belonged) he decoupled abortion from national politics. Which is smart, politically.
He’s made plenty of public statements that he’s anti-abortion. I take him at his word. Do you doubt that he is?
The rest of your points are good and correct and I agree with them and nothing I said contradicts any of it. He did what he could do in a Republic such as we have given the realities of how it currently functions. A national ban is as ‘un-republic’ as RvW itself was.
We surely agree over the morality of abortion being allowed anywhere being bad, but the notion of such sweeping nation-wide rulings is not compliant with a republic. The founders knew this.
Yes, we have a ton of other ‘nationwide rulings’ that need to go the way of the DoDo… starting with the NFA. I think RvW was a better place to start.
He ordered the Republican National Convention to pull the pro-life planks out of the Party Platform. My wife was on the platform committee and was one of about 20 or so signers of a minority report on the life issue.
My understanding, and in light of RvW, was that the pro-life planks probably (and you can tell me, b/c I don’t know off hand) centered on a nationwide ban, which was already mentioned as being anti-Republic.
No one is saying that’s the best solution, but it is the reality that fits our constitution.
Abortion is with the States – where it belongs.
A National Abortion Ban” would violate State Rights.
My opinion … the majority of our 50 states will ban abortions … but just as there are now “destination weddings” – there will be destination abortions, too.
In the late 1960’s to early 1970’s … BEFORE the Supreme Court legalized abortion. You could buy a package deal for an abortion in New Jersey, to abort your baby. They even sent a Limo to the airport to pick up the females flying in for abortions.
Blue states will likely always offer and celebrate baby-slaughter.
My state (Hawaii) is proud! to be the first state to legalize abortion.
So much evidence in your post.
That’s a stretch.
If anything it was more like this.
“ Mr. Trump, let’s make a deal. We know you’re a man of deals. We’ll give you the Big Beautiful Bill you want passed and we’ll throw in the Abraham Accords…..you’ll get all the credit and made a hero, we’ll even give you a peace prize. All you have to do is make our Mossad agent problem go away. This will be easy for you to do.”
More clarity would put it to rest and yet there is no clarity, only emotion…I wonder why?
Because you are not willing to read his posts and believe it
You are somehow more willing to imply he is a pedophile or covers up for them it appears. Hope not
Now everyone here who disagrees this was handled in the best way thinks PT is a pedo? I’m beginning to wonder how you really feel.
Unfortunately, for our great President Trump, he is shifting the focus of animus from Epstein to himself directly. This is ill advised on so many levels. He must remember that MAGA never fell for the conga line of democrat contrived hoaxes – none were believable and easily sniffed out. The Epstein matter, however, was something altogether. It was plausible, it was a tactic used since the beginning of time, and there was sufficient observable and documented activity not to mention criminal prosecutions and the assertions of key senior administration officials, to wit: Bondi. So please excuse your base (who got you elected President Trump ) if we want this thoroughly investigated. We don’t have the visibility the administration enjoys into all the information that was discovered. We just want whatever you have made available. And we paid for it.
Oh, and one other thing: what about the 2026 midterms? Should MAGA vote then or is our alienation to be permanent?
Agree. He called this artillery barrage on his own position.
That’s an excellent metaphor. I just can’t figure out this friendly fire. It’s illogical.
Your job is to make the few maga.voters that got sucked into this feel they are the PAST Supporters.
So it hurts us.
I say flat out – why are you implying PDJT is a pedophile
I have zero clue about what you just said in a reply to my post.
I don’t question President Trump’s integrity. If there is any question, contrast the moral rectitude of the President with the lack of moral underpinning of the entire US Government.
Try to clean up the American version of the Augean Stables without stepping in shit. He’s wearing hip waders to muck it out while some misguided folks are throwing shovelfuls at him.
It comes down to integrity. Let him do it his way. He will get the job done.
The turn around with MAGA policies from the disastrous Biden has been outstanding. However, with Epstein, Trump’s continued touting of OWS and the underwhelming performance of MAHA, it’s looking more like business as usual in The Swamp. When are we going to get to repealing the 2005 PREP Act or focusing on the NSC/military/intelligence responsive to the Covid hoax that killed millions and set back our economy for decades going to get much more attention and accountability?
Again, that implies you think he covers up for pedophiles.
Disgusting
Trumps strength has been honesty. Telling it like it is, no need to turn and twist in lies. This circus feels like a paradigm shift.
He is telling the truth.
People don’t want to believe it.
He’s told us nothing except to shut up.
and? It is killing the agenda. Rasmussen on Bannon said the same thing. People like Bannon, Tucker, Posebic, Beck, Owens etc……….are killing this.
I don’t give a damn about Epstein of course unless you are tying it to Diddy which the firing of Comey might be doing.
When we stop caring about bringing justice for underage girls against the powerful men who committed the sex crimes just because of some other “agenda”, we have lost everything. This IS the agenda – bringing the light of justice into the swamp and emptying it of perverts no matter which politics they support.
He told you it was fabricated
I know you can read. It was posted in every article on this.
So instead I’m wonder why you have zero hesitancy to imply President Trump is a pedophile and we support a man that covers up pedophillia
In the face of a dead Epstein, erased evidence tape, the plane, the flight logs, the island, the rooms, the video, the photos, the large list of girls over the years with powerful pervert predators, suicided witnesses, a convicted Ghislaine rotting in jail, not to mention PDJT’s former position advocating exposure and prosecution … I’ll need more now than a “Just because I said so, shut up stupid” to convince me. That actually drives me the other way.
I don’t believe Trump is a pedo. On the other hand it sure appears he is a man covering for others who are pedos. For what reason who knows. None of this passes the truth test else it would make sense.
Which time? When he said it would be released?
Connect the dots
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I voted for trump three times and support his agenda. Yet I have always done so cautiously, remembering what he did to kill the USFL and how he pimped fellow owners, especially John Bassett (see the ESPN 30 for 30 documentary “Small Potatoes”). Like all humans he is at heart a pragmatist that defaults to “what is best for me” mode when push comes to shove. I also believe that the evidence, if it ever existed, is most likely corrupted beyond any useful benefit for legitimate prosecution. Huge mistake telling those who disagree to Go Scratch. Perhaps he doesn’t realize how much those who have supported him have been persecuted over the years for that support?
Trump sowed the wind by making an issue of the Epstein files during the campaign and now reaps the whirlwind when his supporters cry foul when Pam Bondi says never mind.
I personally doubt there was a list of clients tacked on the wall behind Epstein’s desk, or a little black book he kept in a safe.
But I believe Alan Dershiwitz who says there is an FBI report with names redacted that is the equivalent of a list.
I don’t care much about this topic, to be honest. I also don’t think we are owed a look at the “list”. But we are owed justice in the form of prosecutions of serious pedophiles as they may exist.
The thing that could put an end to this is for the DOJ to start indicting pedophiles that were on Epstein Island.
Make the first few indictments Democrats just for fun.
Rush said many times the only person who can separate DJT from his supporters is DJT himself.
Yep, and that why the public relations machine worked on Bondi.to.make her conflate the list question with files on her desk
They knew they could fan the fire to make it look like he is attacking his supporters. When he is attacking snakes that imply he is a pedophile with Epstein was killed in his watch not supported.
Fortunately, the end to this story hasn’t been written yet.
And don’t I STILL miss Rush!
Two things seem apparent: evidence was destroyed; people (innocents, politicos….whomever) are being protected.
The Prez does not want to disclose what is known. Looks to be a stand-off going on behind the curtain.
Those connected to the victims are gonna have to marshal resources and pursue this independently – in court.
Meantime, keep the press on wrt other priorities; set markers for returning to this issue. Not every battle is won – but the war can be.
“Two things seem apparent: evidence was destroyed; people (innocents, politicos….whomever) are being protected.”
(emphasis mine)
Not sure you realize the contradiction in your assertion. Not sure 98% of the “Trump dissed MAGA” complainers realize the contradiction in that statement.
Here is the contradiction: if the evidence (of pedophilia by high profile people) was destroyed, then none of the allegedly guilty need to be protected. So no one is (present tense) protecting them. There is nothing with which to successfully prosecute them. And in this country, one is presumed innocent absent any evidence proving they are guilty. Therefore the “guilty” cannot be legally named without incurring lawsuits. Sorry, but names on flight logs do NOT prove guilt of child sex crimes in a court of law.
Frustrating? Yes. But worth continuing to bitch and complain for weeks? No, not when there are still large & critical MAGA agenda items in front of the President & Congress.
Blackmail and honey pot operations have been going on for centuries. They are never going to give them up no matter what we thing. Very sad. They are sick F*c$@
Ask and you shall receive. I hereby withdraw my support. The mid terms will be lost and he will be impeached and convicted or removed from office.
Proud PAST SUPPORTER
There is nothing he can do now to regain my confidence, More war is coming.
We don’t need people.that think our Choice is a pedophile.
That was easy.
You are pursuing the unattainable perfect whilst the good has been given to you. I understand Pres. Trump when he says he doesn’t need your support. I suspect he would rather go to war with a few committed soldiers than those such as yourself who run away at the earliest sign of adversity.
This isn’t hard to understand. Epstein is a Rubicon. It’s not that the details of the story are so important. What it represents is the very worst of government corruption and the two-tiered legal system. The people are tired of it. Trump believes his support is 100% unconditional. And it largely has been. We hold our nose routinely through his boorishness, pettiness, self-inflicted wounds, and promises that become half measures, because he has done so many good things.
He thinks MAGA will keep supporting him through this and say “nevermind” like he wants. He’s wrong. Whatever “good reasons” there are to sweep this under the rug, he knew about them 5-6 years ago. He explicitly promised. And now his dimwitted, Fox News Babe AG has walked it all back.
Nailed it. Child rapers in high places go scott free while we suffer at the hands of those same criminals. I don’t give two shi** about Epstein. I do care about pedos going unpunished.
Full Stop
That’s the other thing. People keep talking about child rapers. According to the publicly available court documents the victims were not children, they were underaged teenage girls who probably understood that ‘massage’ is a euphemism. Some perspective please!
A very rich guy doesn’t commit suicide over fake news nor does his girlfriend get 20 years for nothing and two very talkative prominent women victims die suddenly from suicide. Not to mention a certain British high royal pay millions if it is a nothing burger…
“Virginia Giuffre, known as an accuser of Jeffrey Epstein, died by suicide at her farm in Western Australia on April 25, 2025. She was also a prominent advocate for survivors of sexual abuse and sex trafficking.”
Way too many weird, perverted quantifiable crimes to just accept a “shut up, stupid”, over a detailed explanation, respectful of our intelligence, that makes sense.
Get more victims killed saint aqua.
So caring as you demand more people put in vulnerable positions.
Are you clueless.
If he is in jail. Then it’s for something. And if the victims were accounted for and chose money compensation with privacy then the whole operation is knowlable!!!
It’s known!
It’s not a retarded YouTube video skit of implying millions of kids are being raped and eaten.
Simple – you either think he is a pedophile or not
You forgot to add Bill Gates wife leaving him specifically for the pedophilia he was involved in.
She even warned him to stay away from Epstein.
Take him at his word. We do not know the reason with certainty, but Trump does not want the support of many of his devout supporters. He is anathematizing us.
And here is the reason: Trump identifies those concerned with Epstein as antisemites, and Trump hates antisemites.
In this respect Trump is completely wrong in his perspective, but it is his perspective.
I don’t think PT thinks Epstein is a good guy hated for being Jewish. After all, he kicked Epstein out of Mar-a-lago for his attentions toward an underage girl.
Not at all what I mean. Epstein is significant because he was used by Israel to help gain control of American politics in direct contradiction of the interests of America and Americans. Trump understands that holding Epstein accountable means holding Israel accountable. In the world of Israel spokesmen and defenders, like Trump, the very idea of holding Israel accountable is antisemitic.
I always question the lack of willingness to embrace full disclosure
It’s not that hard.
When you’re protecting someone or something, you don’t talk or disclose information.
To be more successful you add lies and obfuscation as well as misdirection and false statements made to confuse.
Candace Owens didn’t kill herself.
WOW! This lady deserves a Pulitzer.
https://rumble.com/v6w9l32-the-epstein-files-dead-men-tell-no-tales-an-introduction.html?e9s=src_v1_sa%2Csrc_v1_sa_o%2Csrc_v1_ucp_a
I think some underling at DOJ created false ‘files’ and got Bondi to bite on them. Trump know this is an op to fracture MAGA and put an end to it.
Courts sealed the names in 2008. Get over it.
for me Trump giving his supporters an ultimation like this is past crazy.
Because he didn’t kill himself! Trump campaigned on the release, but now we have all been duped. This too shall pass like 911 truth, and Covid corruption. Just go shopping and watch mainstream media.
“These world crises are crises of saints”
The day of salvation, of eternity, has come for us. Once again the call of the Divine Shepherd can be heard, those affectionate words: Vocavi te nomine tuo – I have called you by your name. Just like our mother, he calls us by our name, by the name we’re fondly called at home, by our nickname.There, in the depths of our soul, he calls us and we just have to answer: Ecce ego quia vocasti me – here I am, for you have called me, and this time I’m determined not to let time flow by like water over the pebbly bed of a stream, leaving no trace behind.
(The Forge, 7)
You and I belong to Christ’s family, for ‘he himself has chosen us before the foundation of the world, to be saints, to be blameless in his sight, for love of him, having predestined us to be his adopted children through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his Will’
The goal that I am putting before you, or rather that God has marked out for us all, is no illusory or unattainable ideal. I could quote you many specific examples of ordinary men and women, just like you and me, who have met Jesus passing by quasi in occulto, at what appeared to be quite ordinary cross-roads in their lives, and have decided to follow him, lovingly embracing their daily cross. In this age of ours, an age of generalized decay, of compromise and discouragement, and also of license and anarchy, I think it is more important than ever to hold on to that simple yet profound conviction which I had when I began my priestly work and have held ever since, and which has given me a burning desire to tell all mankind that ‘these world crises are crises of saints’.
Interior life. We need it, if we are to answer the call that the Master has made to each and every one of us. We have to become saints, as they say in my part of the world, ‘down to the last whisker,’* Christians who are truly and genuinely such, the kind that could be canonized. If not, we shall have failed as disciples of the one and only Master. And don’t forget that when God marks us out and gives us his grace to strive for sanctity in the everyday world, he also puts us under an obligation to do apostolate.
(Friends of God, 2-5)
[1] Eph 1:4‑5
[2] Hidden as it were’ (John 7:10)
[3] cf Matt 16:24
Both Rasmussen and CNN agree that DJT’s approval numbers are UP. Both in general and in particular with his base. Congressional democrats are DOWN.
This has been nothing more than a (failed) pysop. To those of you smart enough not play along, my hat is off to you. To the rest of you, cry harder. I’ll be in the Winner’s Lounge.
Sorry, NOT SORRY, Haters! SHOCKED CNN Reports Trump’s Approval Has Gone UP Since Epstein Saga Began (Vid)
I believe, Carlson is correct when he states this is too big to open, something like the Pizza Club x’s 1000. For instance, up in Canada, they just elected a new prime minister with deep ties to Epstein Island and I would not be surprised to learn, there are many more like him around the world. It is something that could destroy humanity.
It wouldn’t destroy humanity.
It would destroy the “Big Club” and their control over humanity.
This whole Epstein fiasco is terribly distressing.
We’ve understood for years now that Epstein and Maxwell were “intelligence” and untouchable, according to Alexander Acosta. He ran a child trafficking honeypot operation, for the CIA, Mossad or both, (does Mossad actually control the CIA?) to entrap western world leaders in “compromising” positions (if child rape can be considered merely “compromising”) so that they could be blackmailed and controlled.
This control continues to this day.
And now we’re told it was all fake news by the very man who campaigned on draining the swamp, releasing the Epstein list and bringing justice to those compromised despotic psychopaths “leading” the western world (into the pits of hell, I might add).
The change in Trump’s demeanor over this is blatantly obvious. I’ve never noticed him being angrily condescending to anyone before (other than CNN / MSNDC reporters, and there he was only condescending but not angrily so – to much better effect). But now he is dressing down independent reporters and the people in his base that believe so much in him.
The People’s ability to trust their “leaders” is paramount for a Representative Democracy to exist. A government that derives its sole and only authority from the Consent of the Governed. If I believe you’re lying to me, my consent is automatically withdrawn and your legitimacy to have certain authorities over me cease to exist. I am no longer obligated to comply since you have abrogated your agreement to be truthful with me.
As further evidence of the lie, as if that were necessary, you have Kash Patel’s and Dan’s demeanor in their interview with MB. They both looked like scared shyteless deers in the headlights (although to be fair, that’ may just be Kash’s visage). Dan says “I’ve seen the tapes.” What tapes. I remember distrusting the news at the time that all the surveillance cameras were mysteriously down at the time. And then, the FBI / DOJ release a tape that shows nothing. Is this the tape Dan cited as proof?
I’ve never been an unquestioning Trump supporter. Meaning that, I hold him to the same standards as I view all politicians through: don’t tell me, show me. I can count the politicians that exemplify that standard on probably one hand, certainly no more than two.
I have told myself all my life that if I have no expectations, I’ll suffer no disappointments. Well, I’m terribly disappointed in President Trump. My bad for not living up to my own standards (and not the only area I fail in).
I’ve been using the contact form at whitehouse.gov a lot recently. I sent this today, in closing:
“As you wish. In your most recent tirade you said you didn’t want the support of anyone still expecting you to make good on your promise to release the Epstein files. It’s obvious you’ve been compromised in some manner by the deep state and probably Israeli intelligence. I don’t believe you’re a pedophile but you have something hanging over your head.
And because we, your base, clamor for you to make good on your campaign promise, you react condescendingly. Not a good look, Mr. President. Remarkably different than your previous demeanor.
So be it, you have lost my support, as requested. I’m quite vocal and will turn as many against you as I can.
MAGA can flourish without you since it is focused on “truth, justice and the American way.” You were only a figurehead and in that regard you have lost your purpose.”
It never was about one man riding in on a white horse – or down and escalator. Only We the People can save our Republic. And Voices and Votes. Will. Not. Fix. This.
Outstanding post.
Especially this: “The change in Trump’s demeanor over this is blatantly obvious. I’ve never noticed him being angrily condescending to anyone before (to his base) …”
Seriously?
Nobody, nobody – visiting this forum or up in the space station or alive anywhere in the face of this planet – has the right to speak FOR MAGA, on Behalf of MAGA, for “the base” – the sole exclusion possibly (it seems) being the man himself PRESIDENT DONALD JOHN TRUMP.
And yet, the number of people here at the 🌴 🏠 making all sort of BOLD proclamation about MAGA This and MAGA That (even “defining”the movement) is astounding.
There is a version of “MAGA” floating about that seems to really believe (or the people who too readily proffer it believe,) that they collectively are above the man, and are stronger than the man.
The man, this individual, himself will surpass and outlast all of the dissident voices of PAST (future past?) supporters – MAGA! – collectively together with all of the Never Trumpers, Trump Haters, RINOS, GOP RESIST BUREAUCRATS et al.,
… as *the* dominant political force … globally in a century.
When the histories are written our names will not even be footnoted.
To the extent that MAGA is discussed in real history books and not 54 page, 96 page self-published paperback graphic novel types of publications it’ll be a mixed bag at best.
For those departing who choose to behave like good Leftists who decide to do as much of a crash and burn on their way out the door – yeah that part will show up in the histories.
But not your names. Not your photos. You’ll have long been forgotten.
But NOT so, DONALD JOHN TRUMP.
P.s., Talking points stink coming out of D.C., and they’ve grown tiresome here, as well.
P.p.s., the whole ‘vengeance – woman scorned’ thing (I thought that society would’ve gotten beyond this by now, in any event …) not a pretty look
[- for a woman, a man, or anyone in between]
Oh, and hey!, Mike Pence … .
MAGA= constitutional laws (no direct taxation), Bill of Rights, and open books.
Me speaking for MAGA.
No. Not speaking *FOR* MAGA … because no one ever invested you with the authority to do so.
I, myself, speaking for myself ABOUT MAGA at its best, would agree with about – half – of what you’ve stated here, no more.
Wishing For MAGA (projecting onto MAGA,) at best.
Mike Pence has declared the Epstein files should be released. So, yeah, I’m ok with Trump holding back. It has to be some sort of trap.
All they need to do is appoint an independent Special Prosecutor and that would clear Trump with MAGA supporters. Seems logical if there is nothing to hide.
Whatever it takes to expose severe systemic crimes amongst the rich, against the weak.
Jesus shook his head and wept.
For the children, yes
Another “barking dog” to throw a rock at.
Think about this … there is no list now … it’s long gone and even if there is one it’s in the CIA silo, not the FBI IMO. Epstein was a CIA/Mossad operative who went rogue who went too far and needed to be eliminated ….
The Dems. know this. If there is a list, they had 4 years to produce it. Now, knowing there isn’t one, they push for exposure knowing Trump’s DOJ can’t produce one … thus making it look like there is stonewalling …
There is a lot more things we should be going after … missing children, child pornography, etc…
This is the first time I’ve seriously disagreed with Trump. It doesn’t pass the smell test. There’s more to the story. Was it a honeypot op? Did he kill himself? Who was financing him? Was this the price of turning Israel’s Jets around or the BBB getting passed? I’m not sure. I’m always suspicious of people telling me to stop asking questions.
Is the media/left/neocons/rhinos/ect. using this to their advantage, they’d be stupid not to.
Sundance and Patriots, please read this, it make more sense than the outcry about Epstein documents, seriously there cannot be millions of MAGA trying to get the Epstein files. I read and heard for 2-1/2 years of the Sh_t, I never want to know any more about him! If you read or watched even 10 days of news and investigations you knew exactly what was going on back then. But we don’t even know if all of it was true. It was evil, insidious and just exposed all the NWO, that we already knew were corrupt, sexual deviant and thieves etc.
Like I said there is NO way that MAGA patriots are so interested in reading names, that is wrong on a lot of levels, many were innocent or didn’t know the bribes, or tricks, their names shouldn’t get out. Leading the loudest ones demanding for the docs, are the DS trolls or embedded troublemakers making it seem much more important than it is to harm Trump and delay his victories for America. There’s no other reason for the chaos.
And yes I think Bondi is a tool, stupid. This docs decision was not Trump’s fault, she made the decision, probably she didn’t want to be found out she lied to the public, if they couldn’t see it, no one would know, she started this, so this makes me more suspect of her motives. This whole mess is Bondi fault, her ego and arrogance and craving for attention, or she is just as corrupt as many of them. She should stay away from Trump for a while, a long while.
Anyway, read this ALPHA WARRIORS pretty possible theory is: (I don’t know if anyone see my comments, I always miss the day the articles come out, but I hope this helps.)
ALPHAWARRIOR
@xAlphaWarriorx
🚨 EPSTEIN FILES Were Compromised to Frame the Innocent – Protect the Guilty – But Trump Already Knew! TRUMP CARD 🚨Read carefully. You’re not juts watching a cover-up. You’re watching a counter-coup.
The Deep State cabal, spanning the Clinton, Obama, and Biden regimes knew exactly what was coming if Trump became President again.
They knew President Trump was coming back in 2024.
They knew they couldn’t rig the election again.
They knew the Epstein files would be released under his second term.
And they knew that the moment that happened…
The global house of cards would collapse.
Child trafficking. Blackmail. Intelligence operations.
The entire infrastructure behind the New World Order, gone!
So they did what snakes do when cornered:
They took a corrupted Epstein investigation and rewrote it.
They destroyed original evidence.
They planted new evidence to frame President Trump and other white hats.
They weaponized the narrative in advance.
So when Trump returned, the “evidence” would show he was guilty…
Not the real predators like Podesta, Clinton, Huma, Schiff, Schumer, and Obama.
But what they didn’t expect…
Was that Trump already knew.
He knew the investigation was tainted.
He knew the files were compromised.
He knew the deep state had an endgame strategy to flip the narrative against him.
So he played his Trump Card.
Epstein didn’t kill himself. He was placed into WITSEC under 18 U.S. Code § 3521.
That’s not a theory. That’s a strategic application of federal law.
Trump secured Epstein, flipped him as an informant, and moved him into Witness Protection to preserve the truth.
Why?
Because Trump didn’t need the corrupted evidence. He needed the source.
Epstein is the primary witness to the largest RICO investigation ever launched in U.S. history.
A sting operation that will dismantle:
-Elite trafficking networks
-Compromised intelligence agencies
-Globalist money laundering channels
-Fake NGOs and “human rights” fronts
-High-value political operatives from both parties
And now the enemy is panicking.
Enter: Ghislaine Maxwell.
A deep-state asset activated to run interference, the insurance policy.
She’s now demanding a deal to testify in front of Congress.
Why now?
Because they know Epstein flipped and they know he is not dead.
They know the real investigation is closing in.
So they sent Ghislaine to corrupt the narrative again, apply pressure to inflame a psyop narrative.
To implicate Trump and protect the guilty.
But notice who she never names:
Not Podesta.
Not Hillary.
Not Huma.
Not Adam Schiff.
Because she’s working for them.
Remember President Trump and Matt Gaetz said they had a secret weapon in Congress! And Congress knows it. That’s why they’re pausing the release.
That’s why Trump calls this the “Russia, Russia, Russia” hoax all over again.
Because this is their Hail Mary.
They’re trying to burn the movement with a final, desperate lie.
But the trap has already been set.
The fake investigation will be exposed.
The real one will be revealed.
And the RICO takedown will be clean.
The Psychological Battlefield: Fake MAGA Assets Are the Real Threat
Now pay attention:
The Deep State knows they can’t stop Trump legally.
So they’re turning to perception warfare.
They’ve deployed infiltrators posing as “concerned patriots,” “truth seekers,” or “Trump skeptics.”
Their mission:
To sow doubt about Trump’s motives.
To weaponize the Epstein narrative against him.
To turn his base against him before the real drop lands.
These are not real influencers.
They are controlled assets, intelligence-linked accounts, or grifting opportunists.
Ask yourself:
Do they ever amplify Trump’s wins?
Do they ever highlight his record on trafficking takedowns?
Do they ever defend the movement?
Or do they only ever attack or sow doubt?
They use virtue-signaling and selective outrage.
They pretend to be red-pilled, but they’re just useful idiots or worse, intentional operatives.
Final Warning:
The cover-up is what gets them caught.
The compromised evidence was the setup.
The fake Epstein suicide was the misdirect.
The activation of Ghislaine is the desperation.
And the White Hat counter-RICO is the real plan.
The Trump Card is already on the table.
The greatest sting in modern history is unfolding.
And you’re being told exactly what’s happening…
If you have the eyes to see it.
Nothing can stop what is coming.
Trump isn’t just exposing them. He’s dismantling them-piece by piece.
And when the real Epstein evidence drops,
It won’t be a document.
It’ll be a testimony.
Semper Fi,
-ALPHA
you can watch the video that is posted on the X post, he explains it very well
https://x.com/xAlphaWarriorx/status/1945243944838947019
Yes, for a while I believed the good old, “Trust The Plan” Psyop.
It was a pretty good one I must admit and had me and so many of my friends hooked.
Then Biden “won” and I realized that fairy tales are not real – fun to dream about – pie in the sky-like stuff.
No – reality is much different.
Now I wait for all the info to come out before believing anything. .. no matter who is saying it.
Sure, I’ll listen to your theory, but until it is fact I won’t believe it.
TLDR
PS If you really want to know the whole story on Epstein and what he actually did, watch Mike Benz, he’s got a lot of videos on this, not long either. His explanation was also repeated from EX CIA and other under cover agents. Benz’s explanation is very clear and fully understandable, and his job was really not the Island, it’s much darker.
https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/mikebenz
Truly – I’m more interested in who killed Seth Rich… Kash, Bongino, and Bondi should get to the bottom of that…murder has no statute of limitations issues and the swamp can likely be slayed – or at least fileted by getting to the bottom of the Seth Rich issue.
What ticks me off most is the spectacle put on by Pam Bondi with the Phase 1 binders.
Yep, I put 75% of this chaos on her
“[M]y PAST supporters have bought into this “bullshit,” hook, line, and sinker,” Trump said.
I haven’t bought into anything. Release the Epstein file. Then I’ll decide.
I’m really not sure who he is referring to as “past supporters”. I find it hard to believe he means the millions of every day Americans who voted for him. It would be nice if he would clarify who these people are specifically.
I’m reading – Past supporters =Pence, Musk, Tucker Carlson, and some conservative outlets who frequently second guess what President Trump is doing just to inflate their influence over their podcast base. The DNC/NWO/media would like to use his words to imply he is talking about all of MAGA in their effort to divide us. In the world of correcting govt abuse the corrupted Epstein info release is a small desire compared to what needs to be done to gut the corruption. Fix the election process, cut off tax funding of our own demise, clean out the illegal alien criminals, mend peace agreements, build US manufacturing, etc are what I voted for. The Epstein focus is one every left news, DNC planted influencer post, and the lips of every never-Trump er. That’s all I need to know that ‘demand of Epstein list’ is of the same cloth that RussiaRussiaRussia was made to influence people against Trump and divide our base.
Trump is absolutely correct. Epstein is not worth 10 minutes of our time. Move on.
The girls he and his perv pals used are “worth our time”. Don’t move on. Fix the problem.
This is a problem that is not going away, And President Trump has to address it to the satisfaction of his MAGA base.
Maybe the intel community has thrown the “sources and methods” TS blanket on the Epstein affair, and if President Trump releases without declassification, he is setting up another battle. Notice Tulsi has not spoken about this matter. What if an Epstein mark is giving us targeting info about Iran or key intel on the CCP? We don’t know what we don’t know.
How many of them are actually Trump supporters? Probably very few and more likely trolls. Unfortunately some people, well meaning, deceive easily.