Elon Musk, the richest man with visions of grandeur, has announced the creation of a new political party, “The America Party”.
[SOURCE]
With President Donald Trump capturing the overwhelming majority of middle-America within the new MAGA movement; essentially taking over the Republican party apparatus, I would consider that Musk’s assembly will likely be a collection of never-trumpers, alligator emojis and disgruntled former Republicans.
The impact is undetermined, but the assembly itself was entirely predictable.
Watch Larry Ellison.
It all depends on which seats Elon will run candidates in.
The political animals most unhappy, therefore most likely to shift parties, are Democrat voters.
If Elon runs candidates in close won Democrat seats, he’ll decimate the Democrat party.
If he runs across the board, he’ll decimate the Republicans and PDJT’s last 2 years and Vance’s chances in 2028.
Correct. If he finds those most closely aligned with what I believe are his politics which are still very immature, he’ll decimate the Republicans as you said. When it takes place in Primaries, it allows the most liberal RINO to garner the “R”.
Well, according to him he’s starting a third party. It WON’T take place in primaries—it is its own party.
Musk won’t have to decimate the republicans… They are doing it to themselves.
What you are attempting to predict is IMPOSSIBLE to predict, especially since no one knows exactly who will run for office under the banner of Musk’s party.
The power of his party will depend completely on who the candidates are, and what they are promising the American people. Without a new pool of political talent, Musk’s party will “decimate” neither the Democrat nor Republican Party.
He lacks the charisma.
Thank you for the sanity
Elon himself was won over by Trump’s courage in the face of assassination.
Elon does not possess the appropriate grit to carry this out .
Was he or did he realize the literal MIRACLE we all witnessed was politically unstoppable?
Prior to this, Musk was cancelled by the left for daring to take over Twitter. “Looks like he bit of more than he could chew!” And my boss actually said to me “looks like he fired too many people!” None of that was true, but Sundance did catch what helped make it true… Musk’s backers.
Recognize an emerging force when your see it. Big tech will replace big pharma. And never ask the question about whether big pharma isn’t already big tech?
Think about it. Medical was captured by pharma and since that time no cures for everything despite trillions in research? Everything is “treatments” for which people must pay or die miserably.
Now big tech. We used to buy machines which had software on them. All computers came with BASIC or some kind of operating system. The hardware makers licensed the BASIC and DOS needed or they wrote it themselves (like Apple did with MacOS) and it made Microsoft rich… but never rich enough. They had to keep “upgrading” to keep money coming in. But still not enough. They had to break compatibility with competing software and even steal competing tech like drive compression. They became strong using the legal system both as attackers and defenders. They grew to what we see today and still not enough. F/OSS was once a joke to big tech but big tech became dependent on it. Most of Microsoft’s back end is run on Linux! But all things big tech is stripping ownership from the people. Everything is subscription based now. You must pay weekly, monthly, annually to keep working or playing. And it’s not just your computer. It’s your phone, it’s your car, it’s your game system, it’s even your TV. You own nothing and the right to repair is being passed everywhere but ignored when charges or complaints are filled.
Out with big pharma, In with Big Tech. If you thought being addicted to the sick care system was bad enough, watch and see how current and future generations think “AI makes me smart! Don’t take away AI because I won’t be smart any more!!”
Sounds too stupid to be true?
That is why I own Microsoft Business Package 2010 and will never part with it.
Whose money will Elon be retaining?
Elon will be deported or somethkng begore dire predictions happen.
I don’t think you’ve got that quit right. Tell me. How do you think the new party can win primaries in red areas without the support of MAGA?
A new party won’t be in the Republican or the Democrat party primary. It will either have its own primary or just name its candidate and run in the general election.
undetermined
Love that clip. Never disappoints
The “political animals” most likely to shift parties will be those that left the spineless republican party and are now registered as “Independents” or “NPA” (No Party Affiliation)
Florida now has about 13.5 million registered voters, with about 3.5 million of those voters being registered as NPA…
These NPA voters DO NOT HATE TRUMP as most of you are saying, but they do hate the spineless republican party…. They will continue to vote for President Trump, but the spineless republican party is on it’s deathbed…
If you really think a voting block of 3.5 million voters can’t affect an election, I have a bridge for sale in Brooklyn that you will want to buy for investment.
A rambling little historic interlude on 3rd parties-
Democrat, James Polk defeated the Whig, Henry Clay in the election of 1844 to become the
11th president, which was held from November 1st to December 4th. He won 15 states to Clay’s
11, the Electoral College vote 170 to 105, and the popular vote 49.5% to 48.1% for a raw vote
margin of only 39,490 votes: or 1.4%. Polk was the former governor from Tennessee and Clay,
the well known, long time party leader of the Whigs, was from Kentucky. James G. Birney, a
third party candidate garnered 2.4% of the popular vote. He was born in Kentucky, educated at
Princeton in New Jersey, and elected to state office in Alabama. He was the executive secretary
of the American Anti-Slavery Society which split in half. His side became the Liberty Party in
1840 which emphasized electoral activity as the best way to abolish slavery. 1844 was his
second run and the party merged into the Free Soil Party in 1848. He died a day before the
fourth Thursday in November, 1857, and is buried in New York.
Zachary Taylor became the 12th president, winning an election held on Tuesday, November 7th,
1848, the first time the entire nation voted on a single day. He served about 16 months, from
March 1849 until his death in July 1850. He was born in Virginia but taken to Kentucky as an
infant and raised on a plantation. He was a career officer in the Army whose home was in Baton
Rouge, Louisiana, though he owned a plantation in Mississippi. He was a Whig and defeated
Senator Lewis Cass, a Democrat from Michigan, winning 15 of 30 states, the Electoral College
163 to 127, and the popular vote 47.3% to 42.5%. Third Party candidate Martin Van Buren(the
8th president) ran on the Free Soil Party ticket and garnered 10.1% of the popular vote, no
states and no electoral votes. As a third party candidate, he drew votes away from the
Democrats, garnering 120,000 votes in New York, handing its 36 electoral votes to Taylor,
Taylor’s exact margin of victory.
Who will join the latest 3rd party-and what will come of it?🤓🧐
Teddy R ruined our country by throwing it to Wilson. And our country became a shell for decades.
The prior attempts at third parties didn’t have billionaire technocrats funding them.
This is the danger of what we’re facing.
They have billions, control different facets of the modern day versions of the legacy news and technology media and have no counter balancing media/technology argument to their message. And we can count on the legacy media to pump the third party to drive a wedge between us.
Ross Perot was close to a billionaire technocrat who gave us Bill Clinton.
Truth of the matter is: Musk’s new party will have little or no effect on elections…
What is gonna affect elections, at least here in Florida is the fact that the independent/NPA voters will no longer support the spineless republican party…
They ain’t gonna vote for a liberal, always losing, spineless republican even it the aforesaid spineless republican is endorsed by President Trump!
Old Whigs were looking for a way to avoid the slavery issue. They created an American Party to co-opt the anti-immigrant movement which was self-organized as so-called “Know-Nothings” (sort of the MAGA of its day). This came about due to the trouble Whigs had in coming up with a Presidential candidate all factions could support in 1852. They ended up nominating political non-entity Gen Scott. Much like earlier they were forced to turn to generals Harrison and Taylor.
Complaints about the “big steal” in the 1844 election is what led to same-day voting in 1848.
For the Liberty Party, their only successful candidate was Salmon Chase who would go on to become Lincoln’s Secy of Treasury and usher in National Banking, which evolved into the Federal Reserve.
Have at it Mr. Musk.
Let’s see where everyone’s priorities lie.
MAGA is already America First!
MAGA isn’t a party and also, it’s trademarked.
Nice to see you, kathyca!
Thanks! Nice to see you, too.
I’ve been around here and there 🙂
I actually responded to this here but it got sent to the bottom of the pack and so I am going to risk the wrath and repeat:
MAGA is the Jeffersonian construct that he advised must form should all three government branches become corrupt.
The alternate term for MAGA is the legitimate governmental power of the United sovereign American people.
Due to socialist revision and the shutting down of assimilation ( one language, one history, one shared set of values ) Gen Z is having to learn what our founders provided for our self rescue.
Effectively, as I had to do once I was kicked out of liberalism, Gen Z has to undo the indoctrination and find the founding principles our geriatric and elite traitors have stolen from their education
elon is newly red pilled and so he needs to learn of this sovereign people. We are the only country in history that set up our governance this way, for the people to genuinely overturn tyranny should it be attempted.
Elon would not have been raised in south Africa to understand this.
He also is still receptive to the soft bigotry of low expectations, ignoring the counsel of people like Thomas Sowell and Victor Davis Hanson that showed htat the way America was set up socio economic status was ever changing and unlike all the countries with a class system, the American vision – sabotaged the last 60+years – was set up so that the values of America, hard work, good character, the golden rule and shared responsibility for local community uplift, could give anyone the opportunity to advance.
The Golden Rule has been pulverized and the elites and the rabbit warren of non answerable bureaus has set up a class system.
MAGA is the response, the MUSCULAR response, to the attempt to impose the class system under elite rule that these nimrods mistakenly presume themselves entitled to possess.
Thanks for your well thought out comment. It was a pleasure to read it!
I like your reasoning. It has given me something to mull over.
Can you imagine if each of us just had our own accounts, putting money in local banks, staying long with minor investments and checking them at age 63?
Fantastic angle if one were an emerging Democratic candidate.
The Republicans will stop at ending the illegal refugees. The other stuff has yet to really appear. Will social security become the viable retirement program it was supposed to be? Doubt it. I’m getting close to retirement age and I’m eyeing a new career in fast food.
“This is why we can’t have nice things”.
This is why I am constantly “a race car in the red”..
struggling like I have these last 5 years being denied help from all the “Social Safety Nets”.. about 9 months ago during a trip to the gas station, my dreadlocked friend from Brooklyn who is the cashier at the corner Circle K told me the short brown lads piling out of a jacked up diesel towing a trailer full of concrete forms had balances of $11,000 To 15,000 dollars on their digital EBT cards, that were embedded on their top of the line NGO Samsung Galaxy while buying armloads of sugary, salty garbage.
The three 18 packs of Modelo were paid for with cash.
When do we freeze the accounts of every NGO? When does Myorkas lose everything he has to Civil Assert Forfeiture?
I agree. My life was one way before March 2020, a 30 + year old company doing fine, after the Wuhan Con, just holding on by my fingernails, but stubborn and holding on. All the while the 3rd world invaders are being kept by our fraudulent swamp rats to what end?
JUSTICE NOW!
INFURIATE
“Democrats haven’t shown the same fervent desire to stand up for American citizens and our safety, security, and borders as they do in trying to stop illegal aliens from being deported back to their countries.
“They seem to think these illegal immigrants are their constituents.”
Democrats Wage War On Law Enforcement
https://truthsocial.com/@KariLake/posts/114723924314861275
you can blame this on our “congress”…
An African-American is going up against a president that has survived assassination attempts, impeachments, lawfare, mediafare is going to overthrow with a third party shot? Bring out the popcorn.
Tucker Carlson interviews the president of IRAN
I read that Qatar paid Tucker a shipload of money
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14878441/Tucker-Carlson-interview-iran-president-Masoud-Pezeshkian.html
Tucker was not paid anything by Qatar. Stop believing internet rumors.
Was Tucker’s media company paid by Qatar? And did the company then pay Tucker for his interview services?
shipload
Qatar gave a loaded plane to the US/Trump admin.
https://x.com/AutismCapital/status/1925237815434256542
Why should American media NOT interview Iranians?
Iran is a thriving civilization. We may not agree with them. We may have had issues with them in the past. But being fed bullsh*t propaganda about Iran from legacy/neocon media doesn’t help America in any way.
For 50+ years now, we’ve been pumped full of biased nonsense in an attempt to force us to fight Israel’s foes.
Iran is NOT a natural enemy of America. They chant “Death to America” because we are attached to Israel’s rump, bombs that kill their people are made in America, we engineered the coup that overthrew their first elected government, and we constantly meddle in their region’s affairs, to their detriment.
Just like Russia, they could, and should, be on friendly relations with us.
American media exploration of the truth of Iran and its people, is a good thing.
Being kept in a cave and believing in the shadows projected on the cave wall by biased players is not a good way to understand our world.
His party isn’t going to do anything. He’s stupid.
What do you mean watch Larry Ellison? Where is he?
Larry Ellison is the CEO of Oracle, and the benefactor that told the world when Elon was about to go under with the purchase of X(Twitter) that he personally would not allow Elon or Twitter to fail.
In 1977, Ellison and two of his Amdahl colleagues founded Software Development Labs and soon had a contract to build a database-management system—which they called Oracle—for the CIA.
Herein lies the real issue, IMHO.
Who is worse? Or will they both fall?
Ellison’s has a product, Elons was gifted everything
So, Elon’s supposed motivaion is to give us back our freedom? Well, let me see, Elon and the techies he’s affiliated with are basically globalists (Sea Island!) where their game is H1B visas and AI. It’s difficult to perceive either of those as contributing to our freedom but maybe at best benevolent slavery. Note our country just barely survived Biden where a weaponized federal government specifically targeted political opposition by unConstitutional means. Unfortunately Elon seems he may be barking up the same tree. After all Elon does support the idea of taxpayers footing subsidies for electric vehicles and who knows what else. But the bottomline per Elon’s own comment(s) is very clear that he is in opposition to POTUS Trump and MAGA. That said I wonder what current freedoms that we have he is going to substitute with the freedoms he is going to give us back? It sure sounds like another third party interation of basically RINOs, Dems and other never Trumpers.
sounds
He sounds like he wants to hire democrats to torch his customers cars so he can play victim for sympathy.
Tesla Terrorists Now Have a Congressional Cheerleader
I like Elon, and I appreciate what he’s done with DOGE, et cetera, but politically, he is naive as the day is long. He hasn’t been in the fray for years and watched or been part of the system. I understand his desire for a party of politicians with morals and backbone. Don’t we all!!! But, this is a fools errand that only causes division, and it almost always divides those most closely aligned with you causing the common opponent to win in the end.
This article is seventeen years old, McCain in no longer a threat, but the lesson is the same. Mike Rosen is no longer on the air, but still writes for the Denver Post.
ROSEN: “Party trumps person”
By Mike Rosen, Rocky Mountain News
Published October 10, 2008 at 12:05 a.m.
A superficial cliche goes something like this: “I’m an independent thinker; I vote the person, not the party.” This pronouncement is supposed to demonstrate open-mindedness and political sophistication on the part of the pronouncer. Hey, it’s your vote; cast it any way you like – or not at all. But idealism and naivete about the way our electoral process, government and politics work shouldn’t be mistaken for wisdom.
For better or worse, we have a two-party system. Either a Republican, John McCain, or a Democrat, Barack Obama, is going to be our next president. No one else has a chance. Not Ralph Nader, not the Libertarian candidate, the Communist or the Green. Minor-party candidates are sometimes spoilers – like Nader costing Al Gore the presidency in 2000 – but they don’t win presidential elections. Ross Perot got 20 million popular votes in 1992, and exactly zero Electoral College votes.
In Europe’s multiparty, parliamentary democracies, governing coalitions are formed after an election. In our constitutional republic, the coalitions are already in place.
The Republican coalition is an alliance of conservatives, middle- and upper-income taxpayers (but not leftist Hollywood millionaires and George Soros), individualists who prefer limited government, those who are pro-market and pro-business, believers in American exceptionalism and a strong national defense, social issues conservatives and supporters of traditional American values.
The Democratic coalition includes guilt-ridden liberals, collectivists, labor unions (especially the teachers’ unions), government workers, academics, plaintiffs-lawyers, lower- and middle-income net tax-receivers, identity-politics minorities, feminists, gays, enviros, nannyists and activists for assorted anti-gun, anti-capitalist, anti-business, anti-military, and world-government causes.
I say party trumps person because regardless of the individual occupying the White House, his party’s coalition will be served. A Democratic president, for example, whether liberal or moderate (conservative Democrats, if any still exist, can’t survive the nominating process), can only operate within the political boundaries of his party’s coalition. The party that wins the presidency will fill Cabinet and sub-Cabinet discretionary positions in the executive branch with members of its coalition. Likewise, the coalition will be the dominant source of nominees to the federal courts, ambassadorships, appointments to boards and commissions, and a host of plum jobs handed out to those with political IOUs to cash in.
It works the same way in the legislative branch. After the individual members of a new Congress have been seated, a nose count is taken and the party with the most noses wins control of all committee and subcommittee chairmanships, the locus of legislative power.
Let’s say you’re a registered Republican who prefers that party’s philosophy of governance. And you’re a fair-minded, well-intentioned person who happens to like a certain moderately conservative Democrat running for U.S. Senate. So you decide to cross party lines and vote for him. As it turns out, he wins, giving Democrats a one-vote majority, 51-49. Congratulations! You just got Charles Schumer, Patrick Leahy, Diane Feinstein and Hillary Clinton as key committee chairs and a guarantee that your Republican legislative agenda will be stymied.
That’s the way the process works. Does this mean that in our two-party system it comes down to choosing between the lesser of evils? Exactly! If we had 300 million custom-tailored minor parties, everyone could find his perfect match. But that’s not practical. You can be a purist and cast your vote symbolically with a fringe party, or be a player and settle for the least imperfect of the Republican or Democrat alternatives.
A vote for McCain is a vote for the party of constitutionalist judges, Adam Smith, the NRA, Gen. David Petraeus and Ronald Reagan. A vote for Obama is a vote for judicial activism, Karl Marx, the ACLU, the NEA, the AFL-CIO, the NAACP, Al Gore, Cindy Sheehan, Keith Olbermann and Rosie O’Donnell.
Your vote; your choice.
Mike Rosen’s radio show airs weekdays from 9 a.m. to noon on 850 KOA. He can be reached by e-mail at [email protected].
Elon is a hothead. He is not measured nor reasonable.
I am very aware of how fondly he views China as does his mother. Naive is an exceptionally kind way of saying shortsighted. It serves his interests to be complimentary of China and have his business dependent on China.
He is not the epitome of who I would want heading up a party named The America Party.
I also think you are giving him a pass on things he had to have known and addressed for the previous few years politically. The man was a liberal and democrat not that long ago.
Sundance rightly warned us of this schism before it happened and I waited and watched. and here we are.
Are you reminded of the incompetent and flawed nature of Democratic candidates? It’s because the people behind the Democrats require useful idiots. Elon Musk just may be the king of all useful idiots. Being good at tech and being good at politics are very different things. Being good at business and being good at politics have some pretty clear overlap.
Musk is a technology guy not a business man. He is following the path of big tech… everything consumer oriented is subscription service including his cars, start link and his neuralink. You didn’t think he was found medical miracles for free did you? Everyone will want augmentation and the will become fully dependent on it and debilitated without it. And they will pay subscriptions to continue their lives… or their families will. And at first it will be cheaper than medical insurance which will not cover neuralink for long if not forever.
What do you think of Musk if he didn’t have backers? How did he manage to be allowed to replace Boeing in government without being suicided? Doesn’t everyone going up against Boeing suddenly get a case of the extreme blues?
China is a good call. Who would China want in power? Not MAGA. So you can make book that Elon is going to siphon off Republican votes and Republican seats. Elon said something like 2 Senate seats and 15 or so House seats. Bet they are almost all or all Republican seats…….and what does that do?
Puts the RINOs where they want to be…..focussed on MONEY not power. Right where the RINOs want to be.
giving
“Everything is the opposite of what it should be.”
pass
NeverTrump’s Latest Attempt To Dismiss Election Concerns Is Particularly Dishonest
https://thefederalist.com/2022/07/19/nevertrumps-latest-attempt-to-dismiss-election-concerns-is-particularly-dishonest/
cliche
“The reader will recall from his own experience an almost infinite number of instances in which the amateur has been fully prepared to deliver expert advice and to give final judgment in matters upon which his ignorance is patent to everyone except himself.”
–Edward L. Bernays
On one hand, Musk threatened to strand the astronauts on the ISS.
On the other, it all feels scripted, overly dramatic, and smells like sting op.
I don’t recall such a threat. I recall that Biden admin refused to let Musk help and deny that anyone was stranded there.
What you should be looking at is the downfall of Boeing and the rise of SpaceX while at the same time The Russians are enemies again leading to a quiet discontinuation of using their Soyuz to get between here and the ISS.
I agree it doesn’t feel right, but try to see more. So I have to ask for a link to evidence Musk threatened to leave people stranded up there.
hand
“War… is the moment when the energy of a single hand shows itself in the most seducing form.”
–Thomas Jefferson, 1788
other
Information wars are not fought in the streets, they’re fought in your mind.
If the budget and debt is Elon’s main upset….
Why in the h3ll was he voting democrat all those years?
Because budget meant spending on him! At least until they decided they hated him. So he sided with team Trump until he realized team Trump wants to actually control spending and waste. So spending and budgets are still about what he wants… he’s not getting what he wants and especially not Musk’s backers, so….
James Fishback
@j_fishback
Elon has gone too far.
My investment firm
(@InvestAzoria) has decided to postpone next week’s public listing of our Azoria Tesla Convexity ETF.
Continue reading…
James Fishback is setting up a PAC to fight back against Musk…
All of that is a must read. Fabulous!!
Thank you, Jim!
President Trump announced that China doesn’t have any windmill farms! Let that sink in! They make the expensive wind farm materials, sell them to us and we have their useless waste that is garbage cluttering up OUR LAND! Green new scam is exactly what that is.
Fishback is going to the mattresses on Elon
Good.
Elon needs to be made unimportant
Death knell to Elon
He will be without backers if he’s pushed out of Tesla
He can keep feeding the drugs into his veins until they pop
#GubTrustFundbabyNoMore
“Quick review of the Un-American Party’s platform”…..
About AI — I saw a clip on the news tonight where they were talking about how AI is beginning to take over many entry level jobs. There are now qualified college graduates having a hard time getting jobs because many entry level jobs are being eliminated via AI. Between AI and the H1Bs, these kids are being shut out. How will Elon’s party deal with high unemployment among college educated professionals?
They have been conditioning us to believe AI is taking over jobs….AI can do a lot of repetitive “entry level” work but most of the entry level work now (grunt work) is being offshored and/or replaced with Visa’s….in accounting they have your basic grunt work for entry level recent accounting grads…for the past 5-10 years they have been offshoring this compliance grunt work to India compliance centers..now AI is doing a lot of that but not all…they just offshore it more to these centers in India now. They push on media that “AI” is replacing jobs. When you really investigate it is visa and offshoreing…
But Michele, as I’ve experienced it in my work experience, much of entry level repetitive work has been what gets college grads and interns in the door of companies and corporations. What hasn’t been offshored or H1B’d has gone to those starting out after college — or even lately to kids on the spectrum who actually enjoy repetitive detail work, and are good at it. (Animation studios have been targeting them in certain programs to do the tedious frame by frame tweaking, with great results.)
I hate the idea of AI eliminating all those opportunities for our own young people to get ahead. But if you google it, there are tons of articles documenting it, and projecting more to come. Here is just one:
https://www.marketingaiinstitute.com/blog/ai-entry-level-jobs
oh I am in total agreement that entry level work is/should be repetitive work to learn. Entry level accounting work is the only way college grads will learn to do more senior work. Many many of the large accounting firms have HALFED their hiring out of campus numbers….the first time I have EVER seen them do that in 30 years I have been in the accounting field…they are also reducing internships…this will kill this industry slowly but surely in the US…no one is seeing or talking about this…it has already happened in tech. AI is only a part of it and I believe they are pushing the narrative so we won’t notice the cheap visa labor and offshoring.
saw
Propaganda only works if people see it.
jobs
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114789602482197220
How
The crisis-cycle increases as awareness of pretendings penetrates the progressive bubble.
https://www.city-journal.org/article/the-paranoid-style-in-progressive-politics
Think what you like. There are a ton of articles about how young people and college grads are being edged out of entry level positions because of AI. It makes sense, when you see robotics, automation, and other tech used to eliminate fast food positions and check-out counter jobs.
https://www.marketingaiinstitute.com/blog/ai-entry-level-jobs
The job numbers are really not representative of what is out there…for example, if MS lays off Americans and replaces with Visa or offshoring how does that even get counted? is it even seen in any of the unemployment #’s? I haven’t seen a real unemployment number for a few years now. Doesn’t even count those out of jobs for years and now doing jobs part time out of their industry (working retail when they have years of Tech Management experience)…
Me thinks this third party won’t get off the ground like some of elons rockets often did
In 1977, Ellison and two of his Amdahl colleagues founded Software Development Labs and soon had a contract to build a database-management system—which they called Oracle—for the CIA.
It has taken a long time for people to wake up to the reality that to win in business is usually by partnering with government. But that’s not really winning. It’s cheating… it’s the rigged game that starts with big government and the IC. DARPA, CIA, NSA… all use military officers.
Ellison took the thrown away SQL from a DoD garbage can and turned it into Oracle
Trump and Elon to meet???
Elon Musk’s poll was done as an “Ad”….not even confined to Americans….
And
Most PT supporters are not bothering with X.
Because a person is born intelligent does not confer decency, truthfulness or brotherhood. Intelligent people can be heinous, deceitful, manipulative and brutal. They make the most successful con-men/women.
Watch out.
Learn how to spot the useful idiot. Didn’t we spot that in Jack Dorsey? In Zuckerberg?
If the government military industrial complex (the IC of you like) wants to do something, don’t they simply set up “companies” with useful idiots in charge?
Boeing is the last of the true MIC members not started by the IC. And hasn’t it been taken down by DEI (a government run OP)? And hasn’t the Russian Soyuz been used to get back and forth between the ISS and here? And now SpaceX is doing what Boeing can no longer do?
No one offends Boeing without a sudden and inexplicable suicide shortly afterward…. except Musk….
We are a Republic, not a Democracy. Why is it so hard for them to say that?
Willful ignorance to further an agenda.
Democracy = Bureaucracy
They are just so 1970’s. Very OLD playbook.
When we had three news shows per night.
Why
“Communism needs democracy like the human body needs oxygen.”
–Leon Trotsky
Anti-fascists are a threat to democracy.
This is a judicial coup by communist Marxist judges
https://rumble.com/v6tvc6d-stephen-moore-stephenm-this-is-a-judicial-coup-by-communist-marxist-judges..html
I predict this will go over like a lead balloon.
Asperger and techie brain.
Not a surprise, but as Trump’s plan hopefully thrives it is to be hoped common sense will return to him.
It sure looks like Mark Cuban is on board with Elon Musk’s idea of a new political party
https://www.yahoo.com/news/sure-looks-mark-cuban-board-192800377.html
Cuban probably wants in so he can run for president in 2028 on that ticket. He so wants to be a President. 😁
Just as I thought. Watch who gets on the bus. That will tell you everything you need to know.
Watch
“Mark Cuban reveals Kamala Harris considered him as a potential Vice Presidential running-mate but he turned her down.
“The billionaire said he turned it down because he’s “not real good at the shaking hands and kissing babies.”
Larry, Bill Kristol and Mitt? A party makes four!
Flopping Aces
@FloppingAces
I’m in that solid red circle. And that’s exactly why I wouldn’t touch Elon’s America Party.
Even if it lines up with some of my policies on paper, it’s a guaranteed spoiler that hands elections to the Democrats. It’s the same Libertarian trap: get 3% of the vote, then spend four years blaming everyone else for why you lost.
Cont reading….
policies
“Go Fund Yourself”
Losing may be the only policy that guarantees donors.
The LP ran Mueller’s BFF for VP to sell Steele’s Russia Hoax in 2016.
Weld ‘not sure anybody is more qualified than Hillary Clinton’ to be president
https://www.cnn.com/2016/09/30/politics/bill-weld-hillary-clinton-qualified/index.html
He shows up to graze on RINOCon donors in 2020.
Former Massachusetts Gov Bill Weld Takes First Step to Challenge Trump in 2020
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/430154-former-mass-governor-takes-step-toward-trump-primary-challenge
I’m not sure I believe that the internet is forever but it often is long enough.
Thank you, Troublemaker.
believe
You don’t need the internet to know what suicide
bombersterroristsrevolutionaries believe.Suicide revolutionaries may or may not believe in signals of virtue for the greater good.
The greater good is always the truth the suicide revolutionary may believe it to be.
“In the same way that we shouldn’t be commenting on political candidates running for president… what authority do we have as psychiatrists to publicly comment upon instances of revolutionary suicide and other acts of resistance.”
UCLA medical school’s psychiatry dept hosts talk that glorifies self-immolation as “revolutionary suicide”
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1778805049033969983.html
That should accelerate Elon to the cliff
MAGA is the Jeffersonian construct that he advised must form should all three government branches become corrupt.
The alternate term for MAGA is the legitimate governmental power of the United sovereign American people.
Due to socialist revision and the shutting down of assimilation ( one language, one history, one shared set of values ) Gen Z is having to learn what our founders provided for our self rescue.
Effectively, as I had to do once I was kicked out of liberalism, Gen Z has to undo the indoctrination and find the founding principles our geriatric and elite traitors have stolen from their education.
Has the US ever had a coalition before ? That is, a Government which is a combination of the Republicans and the Musk Party. Very common in other countries.
It may not be a bad thing as it would probably get rid of the “uniparty” situation.
Not any time recently. Having seen the product of coalition governments throughout Europe and where those nations stand currently, no thank you.
There was a beauty to the Republic/Democrat cycle in American politics. If beauty is too kind a word, perhaps symmetry. It is often equated to a pendulum swinging back and forth, course correcting when things go too far one direction.
What has ruined it is the elected officials no longer representing the citizens of America. They no longer feel accountable to the people who supposedly got them elected.
It is quite simple, the majority of Americans want lower taxes, less government messing up our lives, a chance at a good living if we work at it and a safe place for our families, that the next generation has a good chance of having it better than this generation.
Those illegals that voted in our 2020 election got what they wanted and it was NOT America First.
No. It would create an even worse uniparty with the various coalitions jockeying for the most power.
Two things completely derail a third party with a prerequisite of electric driven cars.
1) the grid has to be fixed
2) the tech elite have, due to their extended existence in insulated bubbles, zero capacity to provide honest leadership in AI.
Unless he can resolve these he is toast.
And since Trump himself has definite interest in finding these same solutions he will be led right back to Trump unless his ego or the cronies interfere
With all the talk of big tech being an inevitable condition, I constantly have to remind people that it is and has been humans in control of their own decisions.
Another party running candidates doesn’t matter if they aren’t popular. The population of the US is seeing media influence for what it is more and more. We can never be completely immune to the influence but we can learn to doubt everything and so control over evidence will now have to replace control over “truth and fact.” And of course so far any evidence which is “forbidden to be challenged” is the biggest tell of all. What was the tell for C19? It was the fact that they obliterated all challenges to the narrative. 9-11? Obliterated all challenges to the narrative. 2020 election? Obliterated all challenges to the narrative. Fascism is ‘far right?’ Obliterated all challenges.
(I had a successful debate with Google’s AI on the topic and it concluded when it admitted that the distinguishing characteristics which define the right are in stark conflict with the defining characteristics of the left and that the characteristics of the left are a strong match with those of fascism. Google AI continues to assert that fascism is far right… so is it really intelligence or is it like RoboCop with its directives which cannot be violated? Remember that sequel where they destroyed RoboCop with woke social directives? They had to clear his memory to restore function. This was decades ago but worth rewatching for those who didn’t realize what they were watching so long ago. I knew it then the first time… but everyone was just hooked on robots doing battle at the time. Ahead of its time by a lot.)
I could also mention “The holocaust” but the Jewish Holocaust of the first world war has been erased. Same claim of 6 million Jews made at the time. A strong prophesy narrative. But ignoring that, at least the details of the WW2 Holocaust are always being updated. When I was a kid, lots of claims such as “lampshades” and tooth harvesting have been removed from Holocaust museum claims.
The problem is Jewish scapegoatism (which has a long history worldwide) is now also white Christian male scapegoatism so as to what team I most identify with? It’s the white Christian male team and I don’t blame Jewish people for false claims either. We are all, in the general sense, victims of narrative control. There is no “the Jews” and there is no “the Christian White males.” There’s a bunch of people with things in common but that’s not an organized conspiracy.
However… it does take an organized conspiracy to prevent challenges to the narrative. And that’s always the biggest tell. Not a lot of political pushback of flat earthers. But mountains of pushback on looking at autism and potential causes. See the difference?
5:58 animated video
Bonhoeffer was a Christian pastor in Germany
during WWII who tried to warn people about
the propaganda.
This is his theory on how propaganda works.
For me, the harder a narrative is pushed, the more
suspicious I become.🤷♀️🤷♀️
Slogans and catch words are also raise suspicions.
We now call them….trigger words.
Bonhoeffer‘s Theory of Stupidity – YouTube
Interesting how some are so easily triggered while spewing their own version of propaganda.
narrative
It doesn’t matter how hard a narrative is pushed if there are competing narratives.
The Scholl siblings were beheaded for pushing narratives before Bonhoeffer.
The Nazis were desperate to find their handlers but they did it themselves.
Some Germans considered their soldiers patriots and the Scholls traitors.
If I ever join the Muskovite Party I would hope people would come with a straitjacket to take me to a padded room. Elon is just trying to elongate the length of time that he dabbles in politics.
“Muskovich.” Elon Musk is a socialist who simply thinks “all prior attempts as central planning were incompetent.” We’ve heard it all before so many times. People are attracted to government power especially when government has the most amount of power and the least amount of accountability. So in Muskovichian views, he could be right but fails to see what it would deteriorate into.
This government was set up to restrict and limit the power of any individual as much as possible and to provide systems whereby it may be self-cleaning. But when they changed how US Senators get into office, they broke a LOT of essential government architecture. If US Senate seats came by appointment from the States they represent, then there would be at LEAST 50% LESS lobbying influence in congress.
“You get MAGA or you get Marxism. Those are the options.”….
Jesse Ventura was unavailable for comment…the oligarchs hate Trump almost as much as Ross Perot hated George H.W. (the fake Texan) Bush.
Bloomberg also contemplated starting a third party—also a billionaire that could afford it. He ended up realizing it would be foolish to do it since it would accomplish nothing but cost a lot of money.
Forgive me if I’m simplifying his motive,
If Elon is truly upset about his taxpayer funds and mandatory electric vehicle purchase being removed, then his party platform will center around AI, Space and Green Energy.
We already have a Green Party. Jill Stein should contact Elon.
Elon Musk has always been a liar and a fraud.
There is nothing American about him or his politics.
He cannot survive without someone else propping him up through subsidies. And that’s after whatever he makes from the CIA for “running” TwitterX and hoovering up everyone’s data to sell.
His latest betrayal was fully expected.
kamabla spent $1.5 BILLION to lose w the same platform elon is using; his own self interest.
America, we may have an even BIGGER LOSER.
What a jackass!
Elon is too much “out there” to be trusted as a politician. Apart from his extraordinary technical and business skills his ideas are too wacko to be useful: escape to Mars instead of investing whatever resources it takes to save our home planet, his belief in the transhumanism cult, emotional instability…A big NO.
3rd parties dont work. look at the rest of the world, they even complain about our 2 party system. Trump has the better idea of changing one (fixing it) of the current parties, perhaps Musk could take over and reform the dem party? His part will be no better because it will only benefit him. look at all the subsidies he gets. totally compromised. doesnt understad politics nor the Constitution He is not upset about the bloat because he is the largest benefactor of the bloat. He wouldnt be a billionnare if not for the subsidies
This guy used massive gov’t spending, gov’t forced extortion on his competitors (and pure fed/state waste $$, when it comes to EV’s), yet for some reason, now wants minimum gov’t spending. Gov’t needs to shrink, but it sure looks like a case of I got mine, eff you’all…..
I predict the creation of the American party will go the way of EV’s….yes, some will join, but it will not have overwhelming political impact that Musk, in his delusion of grandeur, predicts. The issue remains, of course, whether it cuts into the MAGA vote, the way we thought an RFK candidate would.
Less than 2 million people voted in the poll, with basically a 6one 65/35 percent divide. Certainly not overwhelming, and the poll was ended fairly quickly. Maybe Mus was not getting the response he thought he would.
Never Trumpers like Bill Kristol will smell the money.
Elon should be very wary of what he is attempting. The Democrat party leadership/RINOs or what’s left of them, will see an opportunity staring them in the face. They will surreptitiously take over what he is doing and he won’t have a clue what’s happening behind his back.
I can see the two parties amalgamating and eventually morphing into the New Democrat Party with Elon being gently ditched.
Careful what you wish for Elon.
Recall Ross Perot?
He did enuf damage…
Some years ago the “McCain Feingold Bill” was passed with the stated intention of taking big money out of politics. Looking back we can see that was pure uniparty deception. It’s end result was to put the effects of big money on steroids.
Still blaming him for the Bush loss?
“Read my lips, no new taxes”.
Bush lost because of Bush.
2028 TRUMP 2028
A no brainer.
(period)
If nothing else Musk should respect Trump but he doesn’t. Sometimes I wonder if he won’t self destruct, or will he become a monster who will respect no one and be willing to destroy anyone that interferes with his mission to get to Mars…?????
No one loves a turncoat.
To me, Elon is starting to become a bit of a Bill Gates character. “I’m unhappy and I have all this money to stage a mighty tantrum.”
The truth is we have the elected officials that we have now because of…….elections. And the elected officials view their job as diverting federal funding to their districts and states. Elon’s main priority seems to be the debt and I think that is the main priority, unfortunately, of few voters. A lot of mindsets have to change to correct this situation. Another party doesn’t change that. And weakening the resistance to open borders, global warming boondoggles, protection of foreign criminals in the US, and trans for all is just a really bad idea.