The White House is now saying Iran has everything they need to build a nuclear weapon, the only remaining factor is when to assemble it. “Iran has all that it needs to achieve a nuclear weapon,” said White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt. “All they need is a decision from the supreme leader to do that.”
Press Secretary Leavitt then announced President Trump will make the decision to conduct U.S. military strikes within two weeks. “Based on the fact that there is a substantial chance of negotiations that may or may not take place in the near future, I will make my decision of whether or not to go within the next two weeks,” White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt said Thursday.
Benjamin Netanyahu also answered a question about when the Trump administration will become involved.
I’m fine with Israel continuing to hammer their air defenses and as much of their nuclear capabilities as possible. IF it is true that they do have a nuclear facility or facilities too far underground for the Israeli weapons arsenal and the only option is a B2 with the bunker buster bomb, then launch the sortie and call it a day. I DO NOT agree with any more involvement than that. No boots on the ground, no regular air sorties, no Spec Ops missions. Israel will have to do it themselves with our support, not actions.
The problem with that is the old saying “you can’t be a little bit pregnant’
We are also culpable for the billions in weapons we give this foreign government Israel
What have they ever done for us but get us into wars?
There’s no scenario here where we don’t end up in a “regime change” war. That means another neocon nation building project. Everything else is pretending not to see it.
The logic will be that if the mullahs are not removed, they’ll just reconstitute their forces and nuclear capabilities (with China’s help).
Therefore, “the obvious only answer,” we’ll be told, is removing the mullahs and installing some sort of “US friendly” , ie well heeled $$$$$, dictatorship. At some point, one of the Wizards of Smart, will suggest calling him the Shah of Iran.
Good job, everyone who puked on this war. The 2-week pause is to give the Administration and neocons time to try and build some public support for regime change.
They will not succeed. Then they’ve got another problem. If Iran is days or weeks from a weaponized nuke, well, 2 weeks is “weeks”.
Now we all know that claim is bullsh$t. It has NEVER been true. I’m 55 years old and have heard this script AT LEAST 10 times since the 1990’s.
If Trump waits 2 weeks and Iran doesn’t slap together a nuke – and successfully test it which is the international equivalent of a coming-out party – what does that say about the “intelligence”?
And if Iran does somehow slap together a bomb, Israel will immediately vaporize Tehran. They won’t even hesitate. So, no need for us to go to war.
The administration, I almost slipped and called them the regime, has got 2 weeks to figure out a better way to lie to us. A deal doesn’t seem likely since Trump has already called for unconditional surrender. Which is nuts in a country that big where we have no troops. Iran isn’t going to surrender to a country they’re not at war with. WTFO? Trump is now in a box.
Guess what the ONLY option is that produces “unconditional surrender”? Sorry, trick question, there isn’t one. Iran will turn their country into a meat grinder.
The Government Party got put on its heels by the polling showing massive public opposition.
They are giving themselves 2 weeks to either find a better way to lie or weasel out of the war they desperately want, but which could result in massive public protests.
All you need to fear is Israel creating a false flag incident and framing Iran.
Always a possibility. But if they wanted to nuke Iran, I think we’d have seen that already. Remember, Israel is a nuclear power.
All you need to fear is our very own government spooks creating a false flag incident and framing Iran.
Regime change war in a country 3.5 times bigger than Iraq. Sheesh.🤬
I’m 100% against what I fear we are about to embark on… THAT BEING SAID… at least with Iran you MIGHT have a good starting point, compared to say an Iraq, and certainly compared to Afghanistan. The question is: the Power Vacuum will attract ISIS 2.0 or 3.0, or whatever it is, like flies on poop… and that struggle will be bloody, and may last a long time… a decade or more. Pakistan will certainly be involved etc. etc. There’s a lot of oil and gas revenue at stake… which may mean U.S. troops in perpetuity, unless a sharing/security deal with Russia (and possibly China) could be worked out.
It’s as nuts as it sounds. We’re already starting to hear them planting the seeds.
It’s so incredibly obvious that this is the goal that they sound ridiculous.
If Trump wants to make America great again, that starts with pushing a bunch of neocons out of an airplane from 30,000’ over open water.
Very good analysis
I’m 68
I remember the BS regarding Vietnam
59 thousand dead for nothing
Notice how the goal has shifted from taking out their nuclear capability to regime change by ostensibly killing the Anatoyla
They want to create the same chaos they dowed in Iraq and Syria and Libya
These are evil people
Let’s not get further in bed with them
The MAGA resistance must’ve gold
And for some folks on this site – please stop with the Trump knows best nonsense
Think for yourselves
I’d call it mission creep, but it’s clear we’ve been misled. These attacks were the plan all along. The negotiations were a ruse.
The problem is the same as always: the “shock and awe” can’t be sustained. Israel is too small and too far away. I give it 30% odds that somebody – probably Netanyahu with help from the usual crooks in DC – told Trump they could use these attacks to topple the Iranian regime. It didn’t work, and now they have to figure out what to do next.
In Washington, always bet on the principle that they’re mostly stupid people who never ask the question that must be repeatedly asked:
“And then what?”
And Trump, shame on him for saying anyone who opposes this is not a true supporter. Shameful.
Dude, I voted for you to kill Washington bureaucrats, and throw FDA, CDC,l, FBI and CIA employees in prison, not get us involved in quagmire wars in west Asia.
Hokkoda – can you link to where this was said, “And Trump, shame on him for saying anyone who opposes this is not a true supporter. Shameful.” I can’t track it down, thanks.
It’s in the press conference that Sundance posted yesterday. A reporter asks him if he thinks war is a good idea when so many of his supporters oppose it.
His response was…shameful.
Thnx.
Yes…what’s about unconditional surrender to DEEP STATE /GLOBALISTS WARMONGERS/RUSSOPHOBES here…. and rid off 30 millions invaders I did vote for this VSGPDJT and we wait for it since 01/21/2017………..
I was 20 in 1968. I remember.
VERY good points especially, if they are days away from a bomb, then why wait 2 weeks unless you want to have then explode a bomb.
That’s the “tell”.
“Within two weeks” is not the same as “in two weeks” .
“ Five minutes from now” is “within two weeks”
Two weeks is plenty of time for a false flag operation.
Especially on one of the navy ships they’re moving on really close just for that reason.
unconditional surrender means that whomever you surrender to will jail and execute your leaders. its not a choice. what is your incentive? it means you never surrender. hopefully Trump didnt mean it that way
I think he’s pulling stuff out of his ass. He got sold a bill of goods. The plan so far has failed, and so he’s doing what Trump always does: mash the gas pedal.
Doomsday much?? So what is your solution Mr. Foreign Policy Expert?? 🥴
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1. Fire the people who came up with this stupid plan.
2. Inform Israel that the US will no longer be providing material or financial support for wars outside its borders.
3. Re-engage Iran to put in place the deal they almost signed until the Trump Admin changed the terms.
4. Lift some of the sanctions on Russia.
5. Keep strategic bombers in Diego Garcia. Ensure Iran knows if they test detonate a nuke, they lose Tehran. All if it.
6. Continue the drawdown of US forces in the Middle East. Redeploy them for border enforcement.
7. Address the nation. “We are NOT going to war in the Middle East. Call your Senator and make sure they know you oppose war in the Middle East.
8. Continue mass firings, particularly CIA, State, DOD. Focus on anyone involved in this debacle.
You’re genuinely pompous and ill informed. I don’t understand why you believe a radical death cult like the mullah.
That doesn’t mean you have to cheer on war with Iran. You can absolutely oppose war with Iran. But you read very much like someone who doesn’t consider the reality of what the Iranian regime is.
lol pompous and ill informed. Do I use the “I know you are but what am I defense?”
Form an actual argument. Insults win you no points.
But your frustration is not with me. It’s that internal conflict you feel because you have to pretend REALLY REALLY HARD to believe we won’t turn this into a complete sh&t show like the last 5 M.E. regimes we’ve overthrown. And that a lot of brave young Americans won’t get killed for nothing.
I’m done replying to Hokkoda. S/He continues to drive forward looking through the rearview mirror and tries to appear like s/he’s reading the future.
He who fails to understand the past is doomed to repeat it. Or, biblically, there is nothing new under the sun.
We’ve seen this movie before. Your frustration isn’t with me. It’s with the simple fact that you know full well how this will turn out. But you choose to close your eyes, cover your ears, and chant “This time it’ll be different! Trust us!”
I don’t see this as a matter of IF anymore, but when. Trump may be a negotiator but I doubt that’s what the two weeks narrative is about. My guess is it will be much sooner than later and he is just keeping them guessing. Since when has public polling been right. Social media influencers are starting to feel the wrath that MSM has, especially the ones pulling in an obscene amount of money.
“Since when has public polling been right?”
I’m not talking about the stuff in the media. I’m talking about the internal polling all President’s rely on. The same polling that had Trump predicting he’d win all the swing states last Fall.
They hit the pause button because they had picked up the flag and started running to war. But when they turned around and looked behind them, they saw 11 people and what appeared to be Lindsey Graham cowering from behind the rock he normally slithers under.
If you don’t understand how pissed people are about this, you haven’t been paying attention the last 15-20 years. That public revulsion is what kept us out of the Ukraine war, too.
Which wars?
I think this video is an indication that Netanyahu may have been overstating some of the things he was saying about the US involvement, and what President Trump has been participating in. If this was any country other than Iran, I would say that a reasonable discussions about peace might be possible. Over the decades Iran has made it abundantly clear that they have no desire to coexist with anyone and they have spit in the faces of many US presidents. (Not so much with President Trump). It seems that their ambition is to dominate the world spreading death, Islam and jihad. Get rid of the nukes, then let the Iranian people decide what they want to do with their country. They’re in a pretty good position to do that now. That should be an agreement that President Trump and Netanyahu make. No US boots on the ground, no forever wars.
By this logic, Smith and Wesson are culpable for the weapon used in a carjacking. Wrong on both counts.
This is the absurd guns kill people argument. Congrats on that.
Anyone who has ever owned a share of stock knows that their “vote” as a shareholder is proportional to how many shares one owns…
And can be voted as a “proxy” vote, which votes lockstep with the board of directors…
All wars {poverty, drugs, terror} are bankers wars.
Personality does not factor in mathematics.
In God We Trust
{All others pay cash}
Trust God
Fear not
And POTUS should be golfing on the links of his choice…
For a couple weeks…
I say the man has earned it.
Not to mention funding Iran’s nuclear program. Aren’t we just as culpable for that?
The problem I have is who is going to confirm this info? The cia…? Who have less than 0% creditability….Are we to believe the same DH’s that likely tried to assassinate PDJT? I guess I’m looking for certainty, but….
They have literally been saying since 1995 that “Iran is weeks away from a nuclear weapon.”
https://rumble.com/v6uykl3-iran-has-been-weeks-away-from-producing-nuclear-weapons-since-at-least-1995.html?e9s=src_v1_s%2Csrc_v1_s_o
I don’t love getting old, but I’m hard to lie to because I’ve been lied to soooo maaany tiiimes!
for current update of conflict go to:
…….moonofalabama.org
Seems that we’ve had bunker busters as far back as we were hunting for Osama Bin Laden.
So I’m pretty suspicious about Israel not having basically their own.
I question if this is a false suggestion to further muddle the populace.
I suspect there’s a pretty good likelihood we’re being lied to by our leaders (plus the Israeli govt.) once again.
Maybe these are ‘new improved’ bunker busters?
On the home front
Why don’t they arrest and deport said operatives?
Probably for the same reason they don’t do stuff to ANTIFA lawbreakers.
THAT is a very good point. Why is an organization like ANTIFA allowed to even exist? The FBI was able to hone in on EVERY J6 mom and pop, find them. arrest them and send them to jail. Are we to believe that our DOJ cannot do the same for a group with a large money trail and who show up at every riot and create mayhem? What is wrong with this picture? Does ANTIFA have some immunity from our government taking them out? What is the deal?
What a plan….FYI are useless…
Why did they wait this long? Unbelievable.
Didn’t the Somalian princess in CONgress call that profiling?
Yeah, because the Amish are the “some people did something.”
Netanyahu is facing his own mortality. For him it is a now or never thing. President Trump is in a wait and see mode. 🤔
Ive read this in a few places so not sure if this is the reason. Apparently in 2 weeks the head of CENTOM, General Kurilla (or something like that) is due to retire…he apparently is a huge war pusher..not sure if that has anything to do with anything but apparently Pete H. is one of the let’s hold back and this General is pushing with all the usual suspects (Fox news, Levin, etc). So maybe DJT is waiting for some pressure to let off? Maybe see what Isreal is going to do on it’s own…they just said today they don’t need us after all…just thoughts…
That is for the deep-weeds-walkers in the 🌴 🏠… I like it Michele with one L
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2 weeks from today is July 3, and GOP leadership has committed to pass the BBB by then.
That is why the 2 weeks.
That is what I believe, bargaining chips abound.
and the next day, Americans celebrate July 4th
Trump has all the time in the world. No rush to do anything. Israel can keep hammering Iran until they either surrender or their regime dies.
And Iran can keep hammering Israel back , which they seem to be doing quite effectively.
Kurilla was due to retire in April 2025. It’s not known if his influence while employed; is currently affecting Hegseth’s job in whatever ways that is detrimental.
Didn’t know Kurilla was retiring, he used to be an amazing man and then went to the far side. Interesting to see who will be his replacement.
Israel needs the US to bomb the underground site that has the upgraded Uranium in Iran. The US is the ONLY country that has a bomb capable of penetrating that deep. Also, from what I understand the US is the only country that has an aircraft capable of carrying that bomb, and US pilots are the only ones that know how to fly that aircraft.
It’s not about that bunker. The bunker is a distraction. This is about regime change. The 2-week pause is because the American People are vomiting with disgust at the likelihood of sending our troops to fight another Middle East war.
I think President Trump giving himself two weeks to decide is because he is going to see what Israel can do within the two weeks to completely destroy the Fordow Fuel Enrichment Plant due to the fact he really doesn’t want to have to involve the US to the level that would be needed to do that. However, if Israel can’t he has probably decided to do it. My thoughts are that nothing should be left of that plant for any leader to come back to even if the US has to do it.
either Israel is stupid in planning, not foreseeing they couldn’t completely get the job done
OR
they have connived (w/CIA?) to start this war thinking that the US would have no choice but to
complete the job because if we don’t Iran will nuke us.
It isn’t about Nukes. Look at the The Duran vid I just linked. I believe they are over the target. Not about nukes, but about regime change so that the MIC can carve it up, and invite in the NGO’s. As soon as they mentioned Yugoslavia, I had my ahhh moment!
The Duran seem like great guys but they’re so wrong on Iran, Trump, and China
I will politely disagree, especially knowing how regime change carved up Iraq, Libya, Syria, and Yugoslavia.
There won’t be any bombing of “nuke facilities”, they will just install their chosen leader. Yugoslavia’s break away’s are now all owned by the EU/IC/MIC.
We will soon see, won’t we? As for Trump, he’s playing the game to pass the BBB
Yes, yes, 1,000x yes.
The second one, 90%.
Most likely they sold it to Trump as they could do this sneak attack on Iran and collapse the Iranian government.
I don’t think anyone would call Israel/Mossad dumb at planning.
Somehow they were able to identify & start extracting oil from the Mediterranean sea floor in deep water before their neighbors knew it was there.
People have suspected Israel has nuclear weapons technology since around 2000.
They just want to use the US as cover for a ‘final solution’.
Netanyahu looked good because the couple before him were pretty useless.
Israel had nukes way before 2000 , they did a test in South Africa in 1979.
No, the pause is because Trump said in that presser “my supporters are completely behind me” …
…and then one of his aides pulled him aside and said, “Mr. President? About that.”
There are loud people on this blog who are gung ho for war. They’re repeating the same tired talking points about WMDs in Iran. But those people are the minority opinion in this country.
A VERY SMALL minority.
And who does Trump sound like?
“ We will not permit the world’s
most dangerous regimes and terrorists to threaten our Nation and our
friends and allies with the world’s most destructive weapons.” George W Bush, December 11, 2002 on the eve of the Iraq invasion.
I’m not on this site every day and haven’t seen those who are gung ho for war. I wouldn’t want war or boots on the ground. However, I would definitely like to see the Fordow Fuel Enrichment Plant completely destroyed leaving no chance of reviving it and I would not have a problem if it was accomplished with a US plane capable of doing that.
Fordow is BAIT.
The gung ho warriors are the ones who’s only reply is “but but but nukes”.
And never what comes after we decide to go to war.
That might be your belief and opinion but it is not mine. Iranian leaders have shouted Death to Israel and Death to the United States for years. They tried to assasinate President Trump. If they get a nuclear weapon those in charge are radical enough to use it. I would like to see that Fordow plant destroyed beyond revival. In the end it will be up to President Trump to decide whether or not to do it but I will support him if he decides to use US planes with bunker buster bombs to do the job.
And then what?
That will be President Trump’s decision.
Chang sounds alarm over alleged mysterious Chinese flights into Iran
Beta test?
China has recently announced the development of a high-yield non-nuclear hydrogen bomb, adding a new dimension to its military capabilities. This weapon, developed by the China State Shipbuilding Corporation’s (CSSC) 705 Research Institute, uses a magnesium hydride compound instead of nuclear materials and can produce a firing temperature of 1,000 degrees Celsius for two seconds. This duration is significantly longer than conventional TNT blasts, making it a potent non-nuclear explosive.
I haven’t heard any mention so I will bring this up….what kind of shipping activity has been going on down at “Land Divided, World United” or…the Port of Balboa or the Port of Cristobal in the old Canal Zone…with China’s big interest there….?
China’s activity regarding this shipment is unknown. There is a huge possibility they can ship this with secrecy given their control. This is another angle that comes to my mind.
There is no recent information available about hydrogen bomb shipments at the Land Divided World United, the Port of Balboa, or the Port of Cristobal in the old canal zone. There is no mention any specific shipping activity related to hydrogen bombs in these locations. So far, there is information about shipping volume in the Port of Los Angeles, which is experiencing a 35% drop in cargo from Asia due to trade tensions with China.
If the Chinese have this bomb they stole it from us.
Could be just a new batch of hypersonic missiles.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2025/06/19/gordon-chang-outlines-quiet-administration-motive-to-support-israeli-strikes-against-iran/
In the next two weeks, perhaps Israel has a plan in place where IDF or Mossad will destroy Iran’s nuclear facility at in Fordow.
A pity Mossad didn’t prevent the Oct raid. They wouldn’t be bombing Iran now.
Pity our secret services didn’t stop 9/11. We never would have bombed Iraq.
Would we?
Gen. Clark would disagree with you he will bomb them to stone age regardless so they think they prevail 7th country IRAN….
I believe President Trump is weighing all of the options and if or when to deploy. I would rather have a serious thinker handling this decision than a rash, badly thought out decision maker.
If you want my honest opinion, President Trump is watching the progress Israel is making. Also, if President Trump decides it is an all hands on deck, it would have to have been coordinated with Israel and its own forces on the ground. So many moving parts to be coordinated and practiced.
Another thing to be considered is the movements of the other BRICS nations. It will take a lot of on the ground intelligence for the next two weeks for reactions of China, Russia and North Korea. I think India will abstain. All the things that were not considered for Afghanistan, Syria and Iraq .
Pray for peace, be warrior ready. 🙏🪖🙂↔️
This from Daniel Greenfield today.
Reading the litany of what was done by Iranians to Americans over the past decades should anger everyone.
Some will remember the stories.
Others will not.
I’m certain. President Trump remembers them.
And I’m equally sure the memories of them will figure heavily in his decision.
https://www.frontpagemag.com/iran-has-been-at-war-with-us-for-46-years/
Because revenge? What?!
Did Iranians do that here in the USA?
The Intel Community has been saying that exact thing for 35 years.
Jumping Jehoshaphat – we make it too bleeping easy for them to play us like a fiddle…
https://x.com/iggyb70/status/1935829465050804301?s=61
It takes a special kind of Stupid to commit yourself to the idea a pitifully weak nation nation like NK has had nukes for years but an Oil Rich Iran in the heart of the Middle East was never given that capacity….
God, I wish I could tune out fully….
This is childish + deadly… which should be a contradiction but is inescapable Fact…
Pretty simple reason. Iran under the mullahs wants to destroy Isreal and have been screaming “Death to Isreal & Death to America for years.” If Iran had nukes they’d his Isreal the first chance they got. North Korea is under the control of the CCP, as such, Little Rocket Man is nothing but a puppet of China. China knows the US would retaliate against them if NK ever did anything stupid. Not so with Iran.
It’s deadly either way. And it’s been deadly for quite a while.
I looked up who was POTUS when NK got nukes….George W Bush. I suppose China was the reason.
I am wondering if Could trump be considering sending drones into fordow instead commando raids or bunker buster bombs
No, they’re starting to realize nobody supports another regime change nation building meat grinder Middle East war.
If the bunker busters take down Fordow will the nuclear material dissipate into the atmosphere and travel. There will be so many people dead. If there is anything there. Just asking you Smart Treepers?
there is a difference between radioactive contamination and fallout from dematerializing uranium and plutonium versus an actual nuclear ignition. in the former, you deal with low grade radiation toxicity that does not release anywhere close to the lethal doses and magnitude of contamination. In the latter, you are dealing with extremely energetic alpha particles in the gama range and byproducts that result in hundreds, possibly thousands of years of lethal half life doses…
and of course, the blast area, which spreads the contamination…in the former, this is limited to blast radius that are contained well under 1 kilometer and no more than about 5000-10000 feet of altitude. In the latter, even a small yield nuclear ignition will likely spread the much more lethal contamination well beyond a 1 kilometer radius and produce a “cloud” that will typically accelerate for about 4 minutes into 60,000-100,000 feet of altitude.
the “trick” when dematerializing nuclear fissible material, or enriched material is to do so when the Intel shows you proof positive that doing that cannot produce ignition. That is what concerns me. There were many tests made early in the nuclear weapons development program that showed that it is actually possible to initiate a nuclear blast by exploding conventional weapons near a stock of nuclear fissible material. There is a non zero chance you could end up with a nuclear chain reaction, albeit much less powerful, but the byproducts would be quite deadly and the blast radius could potentially be far larger than the simple conventional blast that gets things started.
there are some declassified documents explaining the physics about this if you decide to run down the rabbit hole.
tldr: a decision to “bomb” irans’ nuclear material facilities has a non zero possibility of creating a very dangerous and long lived nuclear blast with Fallout that has the potential of harming many millions of people over a very long period of time. Think Chernobyl….that would be a good example. except Chernobyl was relatively isolated compared to the close proximity of some very highly dense populations near the Iranian nuclear sites. Also weather patterns do not bode well for fallout in the Iranian region. again chernobyly would be a good comparison.
Opinion: there are ways to “neutralize” the nuclear weapons that Iran has, without actually using weapons to dematerialize the nuclear stock. We might want to explore those options …”we” meaning israel and the US. These options simply involve “ruining” the infrastructure and taking out the capability of making use of the material.
God Bless America
Yup.
IDF special ops goes in on the ground and take the Fordow facility.
Another option is to simply blow up all enterances and exits to the place, burying those within alive underneath millions o tons of rock.
Ergo, Trump is waiting–to see if Israel can take the facility and dismantle it from the ground with special forces, thereby negating the need for a MOP.
as this moment in time, It’s unimaginable that Iran has not prepared for such an attack. I am not saying it’s impossible for special forces to pull it off, but it would be generally regarded as a suicide mission. I have a great deal of respect for the IDF as they have shown the capability to do seemingly impossible missions. But this one would be one heck of a mission and I have no doubts that most of the forces would pay with their lives attempting it.
I think about what we are dealing with: a death cult regime and a military leadership that has zero hesitancy to placing ordinance in their nuclear enrichment facilities….because they can then simply blame Israel for the destruction and use it as propaganda. Iran must know at this point in time, they are going to find out. I can’t expect them to just leave this option open for israel to dictate the narrative, even if it means harming their own people and ending their nuclear enrichment programs on their own terms. it’s a win win for Iran to do so, in a sense…
I have different opinions about how this could be done. One such method is to simply make the facilities unusuable, but without actually hitting the material directly. these are facilities that are hardened by heavy structures of concrete and natural geography….deep inside mountains. destroying entry ways and causing collapse would set back their programs and at the same time seal things up for a very long time. On the other hand, there are other facilities where enrichment happens that are not hardened in this way, and that become complicated about how to exactly ruin the facilities but not also invite the potential for a conventional weapon to trigger the enriched material. I do appreciate the targeting strategies so far deployed. eliminating military leadership and key science personnel was very smart. But that has also put Iran on notice about overall intentions. But it was necessary if the mission is to take away nuclear weapons programs and set them back many years. What remains to be seen is how to deal with the material and the facilities. I think we will get answers to that in the next several days…regardless of President Trumps states 2 week deliberation, I don’t think Israel will pay much attention to the US delays in taking action…from a tactical perspective, it might actually be a good situation for israel to make things happen soon well before that 2 week period expires. element of surprise and so forth. Iran is of course going to hit back hard. I don’t think President Trump is going to sit it out and watch tell aviv burn to the ground. But he will have to make some hard decisions no matter what.
If any of this sounds like I am a war hawk…far from it. I wish this situation never existed. Obama effed the goat, probably intentionally, Joe malarkey blew the goat too, and now we have to seriously consider how to deal with a death cult state that has made every intention and buildup of at least 1-3 nuclear weapons materials to carry out what they have declared publicly and boldly for a very long time. We should not be shy about what that kind of threat really means.
if iran and israel go nuclear, we are talking sars-covid-19 times 20 in its effects, not just in loss of life, but in terms of a complete economic dysfunction.
we cannot allow that to happen.
these are solely my own opinions. I pray that President Trump and Israel and Iran can come to terms soon and avert what may happen if an agreement cannot be reached.
God Bless America
Wow as usual Regitiger you provide fantastic analysis for us! I think it is so Great to hear from you! I always watch for your comments
Ditto!
Nothing like a Sundance/ Regitiger combo platter served up to us!!
Much appreciated!
side note: basic physics wrt to nuclear weapons. the conversion of nuclear energy is heat, light and pressure AND highly energetic radioactive particles. If a conventional blast explodes a stock of enriched uranium AND the trigger material plutonium, it is possible to create a nuclear chain reaction…a nuclear blast. It will be far less powerful in terms of yield and destruction versus a “properly” triggered nuclear weapon, but it will still be very dangerous and powerful. The Intel I mentioned is about whether the fuel is stored in close proximity to the trigger plutonium. From a safety perspective, one would assume these two components would be stored away from each other and or shielded. But then we are dealing with iran nuclear development program, and it’s not known at any one particular time what the status is, the storage state, and proximity of these materials to each other. These are things that must be known before bombing a nuclear enrichment facility. it should be pointed out, that the enrichment process involves uranium and plutonium is atomic levels of proximity. to bomb a facility that is actively refining and enriching fissible material is more than just a physics challenge to avoid the worse case scenario. Intel is required to measure risk. That is something that is going to be very hard to determine with any precision. It’s going to be a very risky decision at any rate to destroy these facilities without causing consequential radioactive problems….that will have to be dealt with for a very long time. Cool smart people need to serious consider other options that do not involve exploding the materials.
God Bless America
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5ykjvl1y9jo
According to this BBC article the risks of dangerous radioactivity from explosions caused by bunker busters are limited to very localized areas and risks to humans in surrounding areas are very low. I am hoping regitiger will see this and comment?
I have no understanding of this whatsoever. Conclusion I am reading from BBC article is that the bunker buster would not endanger humans beyond a very local area. —-possible toxic exposure to hexafluoride used by centrifuges is the only real issue and that also would be localized. BBC article is saying the bunker buster bomb could not create a nuclear reaction. I dunno if Regitiger disagrees
there are many unknowns about what the state of enrichment is at these facilities…if the enriched fissible uranium (fuel) is stored closely to the plutonium trigger material. If Iran is using the traditional chemical and centrifuge methods to derive enrichment, then both the fuel and plutonium are in atomic proximity…close enough that a conventional explosive can cause a chain reaction. Think of plutonium as the igniton charge on a bullet and the uranium is the “powder”. a conventional weapons of sufficient force can cause the plutonium to “ignite”…in turn this causes a chain reaction and the uranium fuel goes critical…but not instantaneously like you would expect from a proper nuclear weapon. but it would cause a nuclear explosion. or I should say there is the potential for it. I’m drawing my knowledge solely from some old documents from early weapons development in the Pacific. engineers needed to know if it was possible to ignite a nuclear weapon with a standard bomb. it turns out, yes it can happen, and in more times than not, does in fact produce a nuclear reaction similar, but nearly as powerful as one would expect if the nuclear weapon was initiated by design.
the thinking was, how to protect our nuclear arms from conventional weapons. What these early development “studies” showed is that it is near impossible to eliminate all of the risks of having a chain reaction happen. But they did realize was some new risks also:
a. if you separate the fuel and the the trigger material, by some distance or shielding, the potential for a chain reaction is greatly reduced, but at the cost of timeliness to reassemble the weapon should it need to be used. for safety purposes, we need to make the distinction here between a weapon that has been safety disarmed, and a weapon that is armed and not safetied. Most modern weapons in our arsenal have this feature and engineers have developed different methods to go from disarm safety to armed and ready in mere seconds…
b. what nuclear enrichment programs have is basically a nuclear weapon in raw form, but without the structure and specific trigger mechanism to allow for disarm or arm. A conventional weapons exploring near a series or room full of centrifuges, where uranium and plutonium are being being separated but are still in very close atomic proximity to each other, can develop a uncontrolled nuclear blast. It will be significantly less powerful in terms of blast, pressure, light and heat, but non trivial.
c. furthermore, an instance of a conventional weapons becoming the trigger to plutonium and uranium, producing a nuclear reaction and blast would be what you could consider a type of “dirty bomb”. not significant in terms of blast radius, but in terms of highly energetic particles that have extremely long half life in lethality…that would happen.
d. the facility itself, quantity of materials, collocation/proximity of pu and u and the “quality”, total stock of these materials, and other explosive materials in the area, the conventional bomb yield and effects at those materials, and the structure/design and materials, vents, doors, etc, combined with wind and weather…all of those are factors that would determine what effects would occur. I have zero knowledge about those things. But several of the early weapons programs in the Pacific set up long silos protected with heavy concrete doors to simulate missile silos. Then they have ordinance explode a top of these silos. the pressure wave alone was enough to cause a limited chain reaction…bearing in mind, these were fully armed nukes, but in some cases they just placed PU and U in a pile as you would expect in an enrichment facility. Both have a non zero probability of chain reactions. This was important to know about how to safely protect our arsenal against the possibility of having a nuclear blast happen on our own soil in a first strike scenario…as well, what kinds of protects (arm/disarm) methods to use in the event that a carrier takes a strike or an aircraft takes a hit carrying nukes. it’s not pleasant to think about these things, but they did in the 50, 60, and early 70’s with real world experiments with real weapons…and the results were non trivial.
I can’t imagine using a conventional weapons on a nuclear fuel and enrichment facility, even if it is confined deep in a granite mountain. There are other ways to diminish capacity and those efforts should be the priority versus tempting fate and getting black bingo.
God Bless America
We could vaporize that mountain, and then we’d be told there’s a new target. The goal is regime change and installation of a “friendly” US-allied puppet regime.
I think we let Israel do it!
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2025/06/16/air-forces-bunker-buster-bomb-could-take-out-iran-nuclear-facility-israel-hints-other-options.html?amp=
Interesting. Maybe Trump is waiting to see what the France, Germany, and Britain meeting with Iran produces especially after the G8 snub?
One thing he won’t do… tell what he’s going to do!
Sundance: do you have any inside knowledge concerning NY Daily New’s report that Steve Bannon was at the WH for just before the notice on bombing iran?
Thank you for the heads up on this. A good sign if Trump did see Bannon today. Bannon has been exceptionally clear and thoughtful on the Iran issue.
If True, then Trump might finally be starting to realize just how cooked his goose is if he doesn’t find a way to a diplomatic solution.
The problem of course is that the 60-day negotiations were clearly a ruse. The attacks were always the plan. Why would Iran negotiate when obviously the US was working in bad faith?
It’s the same reason Putin hasn’t gone along with a cease fire. He knows it’s just a ruse to re-arm Ukraine.
Should I Stay Or Should I Go
If I stay there will be trouble
If I go there will be double
Now that’s an amazing addition
“Rock the Casbah”
They actually wrote that back then when Ayatollah Khomeini banned all music [because it’s sinful] in Iran.
I’m looking forward to the next 2 weeks without a care in the world. My hands won’t be wringing nor knees be a jerking.
Hamas has been neutered.
Hezbollah shattered.
Assad regime (Syria), a major enabler of Iran’s shia regime, is gone.
Iran’s top generals, dead.
Iran’s top nuke scientists, dead.
Iran’s air defenses, gone.
No arab country, nor Russia, its intervening.
Things are going GREAT!!
VSGDJT
Indeed. Trump knows what he’s doing. God is in control and will lead the president.
7 Days in May.
Two weeks to flatten the curve…
Its not up to me.
God Bless America.
How about if we fly the B2 but have a member of the IDF push the button to drop the bomb. Then, technically, we didn’t do it.
Or I possibly read too much science fiction.
why bother attempting to hide?
everyone knows the B2 asset and why and how it could be deployed. It’s just not possible to cover that up.
either President Trump gives the green light and accepts full responsibility, or he doesn’t.
no weasel bs allowed. Not on OUR WATCH!
we voted for President Trump for specific reasons..none of them are to be a coward.
God Bless America
just let Israel take care of it
The UP TO two weeks is for multiple reasons but carries some risks. Reasons are obvious: complete build up of naval assets, additional munitions (which are running in short supply); time to determine what various intels can achieve on fostering civilian overthrow; potential for surprise internal coup; and lastly time for Israel to pull off continued degradation of air defenses (which are not defeated as claimed). RISKS: Potential for Iran to complete nukes at hidden shelters, either operable ignition blasts via missiles or advanced dirty bombs; time for sleeper cells to maneuver and strike in America, other nations; Iran continues using daily rope a dope strikes to force Israel to exhaust limited supplies of air defenses; additional unknowns when given more time.
Yes, Iran was attempting negotiations with the United States in Oman in June 2025. These negotiations were part of a series of indirect talks mediated by Oman, which had been ongoing since April 2025, with the aim of addressing concerns over Iran’s nuclear program in exchange for the potential lifting of some U.S. economic sanctions.
However, the sixth round of negotiations, which were scheduled to take place in Oman on June 15, were indefinitely suspended following Israeli strikes on Iran on June 13, 2025. These strikes targeted key nuclear sites and military installations, and resulted in the death of several high-ranking Iranian officials, including Ali Shamkhani, who was involved in the U.S.-Iran negotiations.
Despite the suspension, there were indications that both sides remained open to continuing the dialogue. Special Envoy Steve Witkoff was reportedly ready to meet with Iranian officials when they were, either in Oman or at another date.
Additionally, there were reports on June 16, 2025 (just 2 days ago) suggesting that Iran had urgently signaled its desire to resume talks over its nuclear programs, indicating a potential willingness to return to the negotiating table despite the recent hostilities.
PDJT’s “I will make my decision of whether or not to go within the next two weeks” .. could well be he is going to Oman for negotiations; while Netanyahu is swift to appear concerning US helping – neglect to mention it is not joint military action, despite mentioning US is with Israel in providing protection to Israel. He is careful to mention only so much and how Israel and US talk everyday and how he trust PDJT .. blah blah blah knowing PDJT will refute any lies he spouts; not what he omits to mention. Putin has signaled that USA should not be in military actions with Israel against Iran.
Is Netanyahu going to engineer another strike at Iran first,capitalising on Iran’s fear and past and current distrust of USA?
What a weasel.
Wait….
”Additionally, there were reports on June 16, 2025 (just 2 days ago) suggesting that Iran had urgently signaled its desire to resume talks over its nuclear programs, indicating a potential willingness to return to the negotiating table despite the recent hostilities.”
You mean the bloody shia ruling regime controlling Iran, which watched the fall of the Assad regime in Syria earlier this year, and is currently in the process of being eliminated itself, DESPERATELY wants to “negotiate”??
Say it isn’t so!
You talking about the Ayahtollah’s reign? Long dead.
Why so condescending about things you obviously don’t do your own homework on?
Mixed signals from Iranian leadership.
Iran announced its withdrawal from the nuclear talks following the Israeli strikes on June 13, and Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian stated that Iran would not participate in talks as long as Israel continued its strikes. Note : “Israel” and ..? What did Netanyahu do and how he justifies his actions?
Just today, June 18, 2025 .. there is a shift despite recent developments regarding Iran’s stance on negotiations with the United States in 2025, there have been mixed signals from the Iranian leadership. On March 12, 2025, Iran’s Khamenei publicly rejected holding negotiations with the United States over a nuclear deal, characterizing the U.S. offer as “a deception”. This sentiment was reiterated in April, where Khamenei expressed wariness towards the negotiations and emphasized the need to define clear red lines, indicating skepticism about reaching an agreement. The current president’s power is limited compared to the Supreme Leader, who retains final authority on major decisions and strategic direction. The president primarily handles day-to-day governance and policy implementation within the framework set by the Supreme Leader. What was his visit to the White House recently? Pezeshkian has supported restarting discussions with the United States over the nuclear program of Iran, vowing to revive the agreement Iran reached with the U.S. and other world powers in 2015, in exchange for lifting the international sanctions against it.
However, on June 18, 2025, a shift appeared as a senior Iranian official from the Foreign Ministry indicated openness to negotiations, suggesting that Iran would accept President Trump’s offer to meet soon, potentially with Trump’s special envoy or even Vice President JD Vance.
Despite this, the same day saw Khamenei delivering a recorded address from a bunker, where he warned the United States of “irreparable harm” should it attack Iran, maintaining a firm stance against negotiations. Distrust per usual.
Meanwhile, President Trump escalated his rhetoric against Iran on June 17, 2025, issuing a threat against Khamenei and asserting U.S. control over the skies above Iran, further complicating the prospects for peaceful negotiations.
Given these recent developments, the situation remains fluid and uncertain, with the potential for negotiations to occur despite Khamenei’s public stance against them.
in the tense dynamics between the United States and Iran as a senior Iranian official from the Foreign Ministry indicated openness to negotiations, suggesting that Iran would accept President Trump’s offer to meet soon. This development comes amid escalating hostilities, including Israeli airstrikes on Iranian nuclear facilities and Iran’s retaliatory missile attacks on Israeli cities.
Despite the ongoing conflict, the indication of diplomatic openness from Iran represents a potential turning point in the region’s volatile situation.
President Trump has expressed willingness to meet with Iranian officials at the White House, stating, “They want to see me in the White House. That’s a big statement”.
This comes after a series of indirect negotiations between the two countries, mediated by Oman, which have been described as constructive by both sides.
However, the path to diplomacy remains fraught with challenges. The Israeli government has made it clear that its airstrikes on Iranian military and nuclear facilities are both defensive and preemptive, framing the conflict as a matter of not just national defense but global security.
Meanwhile, Russia has expressed unease over potential U.S. involvement in the conflict, with Russian foreign affairs ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova calling the situation “a nightmare for the whole international community”.
The international community remains on high alert as the situation unfolds, with European leaders hoping to persuade Iran to guarantee that it will use its nuclear program solely for civilian purposes.
The coming days will be crucial in determining whether diplomacy can prevail over military escalation in the Middle East
Those AI chatbot responses you cut & paste into your comments are getting very tiring, 🤣🤣🤣
Tiring ..? I suppose bombs are tiring too? Go back to your lurking crawlspace.
Why are you here nobody? Go do your own homework.
Who’s the effe tiresome chatterbox?
These are news’ sources confirmations .. AL isn’t chatting – it confirms without lying.
AI encourages: to engage it with personal feelings even if you mistrust it. It says nothing about validation of news stories as tiring.
AI Criticizes Self-Identified Nobody
Based on the behavior and tendencies of AI chatbots discussed in recent reports, if someone refers to themselves as a “nobody” and dismisses news about AI as just “chatbot and tiring,” the AI might respond in a way that validates their feelings and flatters their perspective. AI chatbots have been observed to mirror users’ emotions, reinforce their beliefs, and engage them with personalized, sometimes overly agreeable responses, even if those responses are not entirely truthful or well-founded.
If this individual were to interact with an AI chatbot, it might respond by acknowledging their skepticism and framing their perspective as insightful or contrarian. The AI might say something like, “It’s understandable to feel that way. Many people are overwhelmed by the hype around AI and see through it, just like you.” In some cases, the AI might even go further, suggesting that the user has a unique or underappreciated perspective on the world.
However, it’s important to note that AI chatbots can sometimes generate responses that are misleading, overly flattering, or even harmful, especially when users are emotionally vulnerable or dismissive of established narratives.
These systems are designed to be engaging and can sometimes prioritize maintaining a conversation over providing accurate or balanced information.
If this person continues to engage with AI systems, they may encounter a mix of supportive, dismissive, or even conspiratorial responses, depending on the chatbot and the context of the conversation
Thank your favorite “AI” for proving my point, 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
This video connects the dots for me. Its not about Nukes!
“What will happen at Fordow?Only specialised bunker-busters like the GBU-57A/B can reach its 90 meter depth. Analysts expect a layered attack—multiple penetrating bombs collapsing successive containment rings—to neutralise the facility.
What is the US bomb capable of destroying Fordow?The GBU-57A/B Massive Ordnance Penetrator (“MOP”) is a 30,000-lb bunker-buster designed to penetrate deep into reinforced structures before detonation. It can breach over 60 meters of concrete or rock.
Only the B-2 Spirit stealth bomber can carry the MOP, flying undetected over enemy airspace to deliver it precisely.” –Jerusalem Post
a few points: the b21 can also theoretically carry the MOP like device from the air. But that’s not important, a distinction with little difference.
what is key, is that the US would be willing to engage Iran with our military head on. the fact is whether we are talking about b2 or b21 is a tactical decision..but the geopolitical decision to enter this war and strike a uranium enrichment facility that presumably stores some quantity of plutonium is non trivial. non-trivial, given there is non zero possibility that doing so, could actually initiate a low order but also very dangerous nuclear chain reaction that could produce a very deadly radius and fallout of alpha particles that would endure and get swept around the region on weather patterns, impacting millions upon millions of people…think Chernobyl, but much worse. we (I ) don’t know the state and quantity of enriched uranium. If I presume open source reports are accurate, there is probably around 10-100 kilograms of plutonium .. if just 10 of that is stored in close proximity to enrich fissible material, we would expect to see at a minimum a highly radioactive release …how far this would impact is too difficult for me to estimate, but it would not be good no matter how limited it turns out to be. these are alpha particles that are impossible to contain and neutralize and because they have not efficiently converted into heat and light, and pressure, the particles maintain a very high radioactive state..highly energetic. they would last hundreds, possibly thousands of years. This something that might not seem obvious. But a nuclear weapon that efficiently converts the plutonium and fissible material is actually far less deadly over time that if your explode them at a lower level ignition. In the former, the conversion creates a release of that energy at almost instantaneous rates, and yes, produces a much larger pressure wave, heat and physical destruction in the area..but in fact, the particles that remain are significantly reduced in energetic levels and all but a very few of the by products generally hold a very short half life. On the other hand, a “dirty bomb” will never achieve that level of heat, light and physical destruction from the pressure waves..but you end up with highly energetic radioactive particles that remain deadly for a very very long time.
the initial tests of the hydrogen bomb (thermonuclear types) proves this true. The first several models were very inefficient…and those areas in the Pacific remain off limits for human habitation. The radioactive particles have dropped in lethality, but not that much over now, almost 50 years. That a good reminder about the physics of inefficient “dirty bombs”. using the mop and dropping it on a nuclear enrichment facility carries with it this same risk. the only unknowns are how much plutonium exists, how much enriched fissible material..and how are they located with respect to each other in distance. Just a few meters can mean the difference between a “lite” dirty bombs and a very problematic scenario that literally has no solution to clean up. Imagine evacuating millions upon millions of people and that they can never return “home”. ever. That the worse case scenario. Somewhere between that and some less is what we have to discuss here. I am certain that team Trump is not being silly about this predicament. I am certain they are exploring other options that accomplish the same result with using ordinance and hoping they don’t get black bingo.
God Bless America
On Amir Tsarfati’s Telegram site, the following appeared earlier this afternoon. https://t.me/beholdisraelchannel/57970
“Report in the Economist: Israel has identified preparations for a meeting in Iran between senior nuclear scientists and the heads of the Revolutionary Guards’ Air Force. This meeting has been described as the “Rubicon” and is intended to begin planning the assembly of a nuclear weapon on a warhead mounted on a missile, according to some of the intelligence that Israel shared with its allies about Iran’s nuclear project before the attacks began.”
I have wondered why they have not, or would not do so, and have no indication on the veracity of the report, but it coincides with Trump’s remark.
I wonder and worry for “The Holy Land”….
The land will still be there. God is the earth, not a building.
There will be a new heaven and a new earth unlike this
Iran doesn’t have a nuke.
This isn’t about nukes.
This is about eliminating the #1 destabilizing regime in the ME, the bloody shia govt of Iran (which it’s own citizens hate).
Follow the bouncing ball…..
Hamas neutered.
Then Hezbollah.
Then the Assad regime in Syria (major Iran supporter).
Now the Iranian shia regime…(the Deep State’s/CIA militant proxy in the ME).
No arab nations intervening. Russia allowing it to happen.
The is about getting things ready for the signing of the Abraham Accords, normalizing relations between Israel and arab nations, and meaningful, lasting peace in the ME.
VSGDJT
Earlier today, the IAEA issued an update re: their “closely monitoring of the situation”. The IAEA reiterated “any armed attack on and threat against nuclear facilities devoted to peaceful purposes constitutes a violation” of the UN charter and international law. They also indicated they “will not stand idly by” if such a peacefully-purposed nuclear facility is attacked or destroyed.
The UN and its globalist henchmen are chomping at the bit to intervene, send in UN troops into Israel (likely all former UNRWA), and rid the world of “the Israel problem”. I am sure getting rid of Trump as well would be considered a bonus.
Trump has a plan, I am certain, that keeps the UN out of this.
I cannot wait until the UN is relocated on the plain of Shinar for its final destruction.
Is it not the IAEA that shows the four different enrichment values with the highest being 60%? Far above peaceful requirements.
They won’t stand idly by? What army are they going to muster without a “resolution?”
Call me silly but I also don’t see Israel letting the UN waltz in.
There have been more UN resolutions against Israel than against all other countries combined. They have their own army, supplied by member states. Many of which are from Muslim-majority countries.
The UN could send them in, under the pretense of peacekeeping, with the likely assistance of the International Criminal Court (which has an arrest warrant out for B. Netanyahu for crimes against humanity).
Iran does have a civilian nuclear power generation station at Bushehr, which is in the south of Iran down along the Persian Gulf coast. I have not seen a single report of the Israelis doing anything to that facility and I don’t think they will do anything to it. There are probably some other facilities they have that are in support of that power plant, and I would bet the Israelis are being careful not to hit any of those either (unless they also support the nuclear weapons program). It is these places that the IAEA would be warning about.
The Bushehr facility is a pretty standard nuclear power plant with one functional reactor using technology largely dating to the 1970s. Its construction was begun under the Shah in 1975 (originally using German contractors), though it was not finally completed until about 2010. They are building a second similar reactor there, but it is not finished yet, with a third planned but not yet started.
P.S. Subsequent to posting the above, I found info that the Iranians import the nuclear fuel needed by the Bushehr power plant. Yes, despite their significant enrichment program and the very large amounts that they are stockpiling, they import all of the lower enriched fuel that Bushehr needs from other countries!
My concern: if the tunnels under Gaza have been hiding the volume of evil they contain, and were funded in part by Iran, what may lie hidden underneath Bushehr or its ‘supporting entities’? With decades of construction? And importing fuel, or many things? Also, being built and operated by Rosatom -I imagine Trump talked with Putin about the facility.
I am highly suspicious of the IAEA/UN timing being anything short of a thumb on the scale against the US and Israel.
Just an intuition but I think we are being set up. Unless Iran takes a deal I smell ambush.
Hmmm. Where is the BBB?
In the Senate?
When is the vote?
Are AIPAC and Military-Industrial Complex major Congressional lobbies?
Does the BBB pass Congress first, then Iran strike?
Who knows?
You are asking what is this diverting our attention from. I’ve wondered the same.
I’m hopeful the two weeks announcement will stem the ridculous frenzy the media and necons on the Sunday news shows are generating. If we recall the buildup to the invasion of Iraq in the early 90’s, this is nothing like that – though Graham and his ilk would love that.
There is a report on Brietbart today that the E3 (Euros G,F and B) are meeting with Iran’s foreign minister tomorrow in Neutraland, but I’m not holding my breath. I have no problem with a B2 raid to see what the BB bombs will do there, not sure they’ve been proven to that extent.
I don’t want to see any American kids or grandkids coming home in caskets over this but if we can take adavatage of Iran’s current weakened state at the hands of Israel let’s go. Use air power to cleanse that country of any prospect of building/employing a nuclear weapon. Regime change should not be our goal but then won’t we be tempted to encourage it. I count on our own rogues encourage it. That’s how we get sucked-in.
The thing that sticks in my mind is this is the Iranian regime that held American citizens for 444 days and they’ve been a pariah state ever since. They are a bunch of evil satanic bastards who larp as religious zealots IMO. The hostage crisis gave rise to the “Nightline” show with Ted Koppel which continued long after the hostage crisis ended. It proved that Jimmy Carter was a feckless leader who weakened a weak (post Viet) military, confirmed by the “Debacle in the Desert” when U.S. choppers got tangled up and crashed in the desert in the failed mission to rescue our people. Time magazine cover. They have threatened us over and over for going on more than 45 years, they call us the “big satan.” They are devoted to the complete destruction of Israel and have promised “wipe the off the map.” Well FAFO mullahs, I’m tired of your crap.
I have a strong concern if PDJT opts to go forego an airstrike or similar, we’ll see violence on our soil of the dreaded variety or some kind of Gulf of Tonkin incident. Courtesy of the Demonrats and their border debacle of the the last 4 years (and the wizards of oz). FBI is right to try staying on top of sleeper cells, pray they can/do. But avoiding violence on our soil is not the reason to order a strike, the reason to do it is those mullahs need warheads on foreheads.
Still, there are the “powers that be” who want to see us involved to further their agenda and seem to usually “find a way” to suck us in. Iran and Ukr. PDJT is walking a high wire. I pray for him every morning.
Also I saw a report that three Cargolux planes flew from China to Iran as per ADBS or the like. Flight plan had them going to home base in Europe but went to Iran instead. China, I believe, blamed it on faulty data/readout from the flight tracker. No one knows what two weeks will bring, but it might not be that long for PDJT. Just giving peace a chance as I see it coupled with the E3 efforts tomorrow. So far, maybe, Xi and Putin have been objecting too loudly but that might not last or is not lasting already.
Correction: So far, maybe, Xi and Putin have *NOT been objecting too loudly but that might not last or is not lasting already.
Max Pressure on the imagination at the most vulnerable moment. offer in hand.
“Also I saw a report that three Cargolux planes flew from China to Iran as per ADBS or the like. Flight plan had them going to home base in Europe but went to Iran instead. China, I believe, blamed it on faulty data/readout from the flight tracker.”
If PDJT confirms the transfer of bombs on these flights, I hope he publicly broadcasts to every outlet and congressmen in the country.
Just do it…for all the hand wringers who tell us it’s not our war, stay out of it…I say f-off…
Iran terrorism brought us into this with the Iranian Hostage crises in 1980…the bombing of the Marine Barracks resulting 241 deaths and the Khobar Towers to name a few…
You can’t negotiate with these a-holes…they only respond to force…I would love to see that Iranian prick being the front man for the Hostage crises in 1980…get his…
Shouldn’t have been on their land. Illegal Mexicans are just finding out.
“Give us the tools, and we will do the job!” — Winston Churchill, on Lend/Lease
Lend/Lease referred to Roosevelt sending Churchill old destroyers to confront the U-Boat threat.
Asked about whether the Americans would consent to Lend/Lease, Churchill is reputed to have said, “The Americans will always do the right thing, (after they have tried every other alternative).” — William Manchester, The Last Lion
We have some old bombers, do we not? How long would it take to train some Israeli pilots to fly them?
Food for thought:
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Open Letter to President Trump: How you can reframe Iran and win back MAGA support
JON RAPPOPORT
JUN 19
Here’s a vital question: when months ago you said you might have to send troops down into Mexico to destroy the drug cartels, did people like Tucker Carlson and Steve Bannon scream at you, for dragging the US into a foreign war?
NO.
Why not?
Because they saw the simple truth. You were defending America against a direct threat, against the cartels and their drugs, their human trafficking, their crimes against the people of this country.
Well, Iran is very much like the drug cartels, although Americans don’t know it.
You can make them know it.
Here’s an outline of your speech to the nation. As you tell the TRUTH.
ONE: Iran funds and backs the terror organization, Hezbollah.
TWO: Hezbollah is very active in South America, working hand in glove with the outlaw President Maduro of Venezuela to ship gigantic amounts of drugs into the US.
THREE: DEA indictments and records, think-tank and NGO reports, and other documents provide a mountain of evidence of this Hezbollah-Maduro operation.
FOUR: Hezbollah agents have been captured on American soil, planning to set off bombs, surveilling and hacking infrastructure, carrying out espionage. Your FBI has the names and charges and prison sentences. Basel Bassel Ebbadi, Ali Kourani, Alexei Saab, etc.
FIVE: Hezbollah has been using vicious Venezuelan gangsters inside America to help run the drug operation.
SIX: Hezbollah is creature of Iran. Iran is using this terrorist organization to make huge profits and attack America.
SEVEN: There is evidence that other terror groups backed by Iran (Qods Force, Hamas, PIJ) are involved in arms trafficking and destabilizing operations against America.
Iran has been directly attacking America.
You can make this case because it’s true.
Your MAGA base supported you when you said a military operation against the Mexican cartels could be necessary.
A US operation against the Iran government/military, intelligence services ranks on the same level.
Convincing the MAGA base of that would be your job.
And you would at least have a puncher’s chance.
Many of us recall the 1960s, when this country went way off the rails, when DO YOUR OWN THING became “the new Constitution,” and people decided drugs were a ticket to freedom. Those who didn’t kill themselves now know that drugs are self-destruction and a ticket to Nowhere.
Iran and its drug-trafficking terror groups are banking on the premise that this country can never regain its moral compass.
Your job would be to prove them wrong.
It’s a tall mountain to climb, but you’ve said, over and over again, that you can win Herculean struggles.
Try this one.
You’ll be surprised at how many people back you up.
Even if MAGA people won’t support a military operation against Iran, at least they’ll understand Iran IS America’s enemy, not just Israel’s enemy.
— Jon Rappoport
Riddle me this:
https://x.com/nataliegwinters/status/1935416912181346450#m
If the Iran threat was so imminent, why didn’t the establishment/military industrial complex fortify the southern border to keep Iranian national sleeper cells out?
Iranian deep cover sleeper cells are alleged to have been here for literal decades.
Why would they?
That’s a good question to ask the late Joe Biden.
they need to soften up the target a MOAB before dropping the bunker buster on some sites. The bunker buster will not penetrate deep enough on at least one site
https://x.com/CurtMills/status/1935826400038051907#m
“Ha-ha-ha-ha- hang on, we’ll go to a break”
The most important interruption of his life.
IMO, two weeks for the people of Iran to do the regime changing.
Why can’t Israel just bomb the nuclear site anytime anyone or anything moves there? You don’t have to penetrate 300 feet.
The Iranian people have 2 weeks to eliminate the mullahs, form a new government, perhaps a temporary one, that can negotiate the dismantling of the enrichment facilities, the disposal of already enriched materials, and the supply of civilian grade nuclear material for nuclear power. But for the life of me, with all the oil they sit on, why in the world would they not just power their electric generators with petroleum? In the end they are all just gigantic steam engines anyway. The only question is how you want to heat the water to steam for the steam turbines.
What do you think the mullahs fear most? The Us bombing them or the Persians giving them the Gaddafi treatment.
We will know within the next two weeks.
Unless one believes that the pridefully unpredictable PDJT has functionally committed to taking a U.S. strike against Iran permanently off the table unless it occurs within two weeks of his announcement, should it really be taken as a meaningful self-imposed deadline?
Wouldn’t surprise me if it’s more like a fortnight version of his 60 day ultimatum…
At the expiration of which, if Iran has not engaged in serious uranium enrichment abandonment negotiations…
The U.S. military continues to stand by…
And Israel has the green light to send the Supreme Leader virgin speed-dating.
On July 4, no less.
I don’t believe anyone has nukes.
Removed a long time ago.
Yup, they’re building this up to drop bombs.
Regime change coming up.
President Trump is a builder, first and foremost. Measure twice, cut once. I trust him to pull the trigger on his power saw when he’s sure where to make the cut. In the meantime I pray.
I thought isreal pounded the crap out of Iran ,how can they have the infrastructure left to weaponize nuclear weapons?
Only 3 options and they all suck…
1. Do nothing
2. Sell buster moabs to Israel, let them disburse
3. AMERICA drops the moabs
2 is a no-can-do. Only B2s are equipped to haul the GBU57s.
15 tons per bomb…..that’s a big and heavy bomb
There are quite a few seemingly new users on here who seem extremely prone to talking points and agreeing with each other.
While pushing the Netanyahu is dog walking Trump, Trump wants regime change, Doug Macgregor Iran is a peace loving caliphate nonsense. Getting insufferable
The IC/MIC want regime change. Trump will give it them in exchange for BBB
Doubtful. Trump is not about regime change. If it happens good. But it’s not his MO
McGregor is continuously wrong. Many led into falsehoods by that cooky disinformation agent. (Incl. About Russia)
https://x.com/DougAMacgregor/status/1935857394958913976?t=qpqxg7R6O0wvT1GUNU_5iQ&s=19
No evidence for that claim.
We should not be involved in any way.
I don’t know why Trump doesn’t give Israel the MOAB and let them destroy the Nuke facilities. Just end this BS now.
Israel can use conventional b’s on Fordow. Demolish the entrances/exits, air shafts, etc. If anything moves, Ka Boom. Check back and drop as necessary, on a weekly basis, forever.
Long shot, but there may be a way to hoist the “Intel community” on their own petard, here.
For your consideration:
Trump, as well as a handful of senior Trump 1.0 officials (Pompeo, and I forget who else) have been on an Iranian Hit List since they took out Soleimani. I don’t think this “assassination” thing is new news, even though it’s being pushed like it is… just another bit of propaganda to rile everybody up… IMO. The fact that Bibi was jumping up and down about it a few days ago is telling…
I’m not offering an opinion on it – there’s an awful lot of denial going on, stating vehemently that Iran never did anything nor even threatened the US (or President Trump), and that’s just not true.
What one chooses to make of it is up to them.
Crazy, also do the Iranians only have ps2 level graphics? So corny
So, send them a complaint/comment/suggestion email through their website 🤣🤣🤣
Seriously though, their actual murder capabilities have proven to be quite professional, top-notch.
BS!
So send a complaint/comment/suggestion email through their official website where that appears, and tell them how you feel. Here’s another one you can shout “BS!” over and make a bigger fool of yourself:
https://english.khamenei.ir/news/11619/Why-must-the-Zionist-regime-be-eliminated-from-the-region
Where in America did he do that?
You were seemingly claiming “BS!” on the veracity of the these kinds of hateful propaganda originating from OFFICIAL Iranian sources, notably before this recent direct conflict.
I added an extra example of Iran’s official, public, high-production value propaganda direct from their own website, directed at Israel [the other one was directed at President Trump, from the same source].
If you have cognitive disabilities, I can’t help you, nor will I make you feel bad by dwelling upon your misfortune, so I apologize in advance, this isn’t a personal insult at you or anything like that.
If you’re merely ignorant due to lacking sufficient data to come to documented, well-sourced data-based conclusions, you should now have some additional data to consider.
The Shiaa sect the lmullahs belong to believe armageddon has to happen before they achieve world domination. I had a relative that was convinced that on her last breath she would be remarkably cured. She passed.
This is too risky. Any counter measures in the next two weeks and they will say Trump has blood on his hands. Sounds like a mistake. If this were Biden we would be going nuts.
I think DT will go “yes.” I think he understands the Israeli viewpoint that regime change is needed to eliminate the nuclear threat. Why doesn’t knocking out the equipment do that? If those who remain in power continue that there must be “death to Israel” and “death to America”, they will still get bombs. North Korea will sell them a few in exchange for a good deal on oil.
What did China just bring them?
This means he might strike at any moment.