The de minimis loophole comes from back in the 1930s. The idea back then was, say you went on a vacation to Paris, you shouldn’t have to file customs paperwork or pay taxes if you decided to ship some little Eiffel Tower statues to your friends back home.
Congress in 2015 then raised the de minimis threshold from $200 to $800. However, the e-commerce world exploded, and Chinese companies began using the de minimis loophole to ship cheap goods (ex. Temu and Shein) into the USA direct to consumers without paying any customs duty.
Yesterday as part of the global trade reset and tariff structure, President Trump revoked authorization for Chinese goods to transfer to the USA using the de minimis rule. The de minimis exemption has been cancelled for all products coming out of China. The rule change only targets China and Chinese shippers. No one else.
[See Executive Order Here]
The minimum duty is $25, and the tariff rate is 30% for all products mailed from China into the USA that previously qualified under the de minimis rule.
Beyond tariffs or sector specific countervailing duties, the removal of China to use the $800 de minimis exemption will destroy their economy. There is no way for manufacturers in China, marketed into the USA, to be able to survive if they are forced to collect and organize the requirements for U.S. custom and import duties. They will simply dissolve.
FACT SHEET – […] “Following the Secretary of Commerce’s notification that adequate systems are in place to collect tariff revenue, President Trump is ending duty-free de minimis treatment for covered goods from the People’s Republic of China (PRC) and Hong Kong starting May 2, 2025 at 12:01 a.m. EDT.
Imported goods sent through means other than the international postal network that are valued at or under $800 and that would otherwise qualify for the de minimis exemption will be subject to all applicable duties, which shall be paid in accordance with applicable entry and payment procedures.
All relevant postal items containing goods that are sent through the international postal network that are valued at or under $800 and that would otherwise qualify for the de minimis exemption are subject to a duty rate of either 30% of their value or $25 per item (increasing to $50 per item after June 1, 2025). This is in lieu of any other duties, including those imposed by prior Orders.
Carriers transporting these postal items must report shipment details to U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP), maintain an international carrier bond to ensure duty payment, and remit duties to CBP on a set schedule.
CBP may require formal entry for any postal package instead of the specified duties.
The Secretary of Commerce will submit a report within 90 days assessing the Order’s impact and considering whether to extend these rules to packages from Macau.” (more)
Hoooo boy that’s gonna sting Amazon sales too. We used to make EVERYTHING and we need to bring it all back. After that, tariffs don’t matter so much because everyone will buy from US because they are too lazy in other consumer economies to do it themselves.
I expect a lot of small items to disappear from Ebay too.
Happy that Temu and all the other CRAP might go away. It’s junk that no one needs.
eBay has increasingly been offering items that end up arriving in amazon packaging.
The small middle-class USA sellers on eBay of their own used but still-sturdy possessions will start making out like bandits. ☺️
For the record, I am not such a seller, but I have a family member who may still be doing that.
I quit shopping ebay when it became predominately new cheap china crap, pages and pages of the same item. If it gets back to used, new-old stock, new without tags, like second hand store again, I would shop there again.
The problem is that some of the biggest buyers of still-sturdy used or still-beautiful old vintage things are Chinese customers who have US addresses. They have everything shipped to the US address and then it is shipped in a large package to China.
One of the big sites is called Shipito.
Dang. Did not know that.
Always learn something on CTH!
Looks like us here in left-wing-land-of-Aussie, will be getting a heap more crap on eBay.
Most of what we get is from China – advertised as Aussie stocked – but it takes a week to be be “ready” after a “tracking number” has been sent to you!
We already had an import tax on China/elsewhere for a couple of years now!
Summed up with 100% efficiency, Daniel! 👍❤️🇺🇲
I am willing to go through short term discomfort to bring manufacturing back to this country. And I would be happy if Amazon would “run aground” and we could get back to our own in person shopping at stores who carried U.S. made goods. It may take awhile, but “Trump speeed” is something to behold!
I have a love/hate relationship with Amazon. If it’s the only place I can find the same junk as elsewhere, I will buy it. BUT, once I can find quality at affordable prices like it used to be, I’ll dump Amazon in a heartbeat.
Do you hear that wooshing sound? That is the sound of manufacturing jobs coming back to America. A beautiful sound it is.
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Everyone has been talking about Tik Talk, but this is enormous and the cheap goods over Temu will stop. No more will you get a piece of junk that breaks in 2 days… now you’ll have to actually see and feel it in a dollar store and know not to buy it!
Can’t wait for TEMU ‘s annoying pop-up ads to go away. 🙌
Use Brave. Zero pop-up ads.
uBlock origin on Firefox for me.
Note that Google/Meta is now blocking uBlock origin in Chromium-based browsers. You can get “uBlock origin-lite” but my guess is it has been gimped.
Yahoo wants me to turn of my blocker when accessing their mail server.
the absolute best I have ever had along with the Brave Browser. I see none!
No more Dollar stores – they are going away.
You mean Dollar-and-a-Quarter stores. Remember, everything Dems touch turns to siht, and sometimes costs at least 25% more.
I wonder if this is too late to save Tupperware?
It was American made for years.
All the years of Tupperware parties. I for one hope they do not stop.
Some of the best memories of the women in my life getting together to look at the new Tupperware products.
Avon was another.
I used walk in the house and see all the neighborhood women meeting, and instantly worry that they were telling my mom what they saw me doing. Lol
I miss Tupperware parties too. Avon, not so much, except Skin So Soft. Love that stuff!
On the other hand, we know now how deadly microplastics are. Perhaps storing in glass with aluminum foil was not such a bad way to go.
or were the American people sold another bill of goods?
Aluminum has its dangers also – good to avoid. it leeches into food from cooking & storing.
going back to old fashioned refrigerator dishes,,you can find them in antique stores
I have beautiful Lennox Christmas china that I bought years ago and last year I decided to add a few more serving pieces. BOY – was that a huge disappointment! The lower quality of the new pieces was shocking. I hope we get back to where we were when we produce American quality.
“Fine goods” are no longer fine, and yet they want even more money for the cheap imitations. Sigh…
found a spode double tier green rimmed christmas tree dessert plate, valued 85.00, at goodwill 6.99
The older Spode “Christmas Tree” pattern pieces made in London/England — as indicated on the underside of each piece — are collectible and worth much more than recent ones that are manufactured in China/Asia. There is a big difference in value.
I stopped collecting my Royal Doulton Old Country Roses bone China set years ago when they stopped being made in England. They really cheapened the brand and pattern with tacky trinkets made in Asia.
Lennox is made in Spain, I believe.
I bought the serving pieces on Amazon so I just checked on country of origin and it said China. I would expect better from the Spanish! In fact you’d think china from China ought to be better.
Estate sales are your friend.👍🏻 Bought an entire (antique) set of the Lenox Christmas dishes. Beautiful—like new condition! Fantastic bargain.
Lladro
Thing is Tupperware is now overpriced compared to stuff can get anywhere and not any better. If this was still the era of buying name brand as status symbol, it would fly but to overpriced. The whole go to a party, order, then pay shipping to wait for it to be delivered just to support home business or mom trying to make it is also outdated. I do not want to pay a premium to “support” a business, just as I do not want to support Canada at my expenses.
Amazon just lost a lot of the cheap stuff.
Bet the China shippers will warehouse stuff in Mexico etc. and ship from those locations. Do not count the Temu junk out; bet they play more games now that mainland shipping is expensive.
Already we’re doing that. Biden turned blind eye to it.
Not now
If Trump repurposes postal workers to inspecting packages from overseas and collecting the de minimus tariffs they can avoid layoffs and become profit generating. I bet Trump is already planning something like that.
It will be interesting to see how this impacts ebay and other online middle men.
I netted $49 out of a $60 sale using ebay a month ago. First and last time I’ll use it. That’s over 18%
I’m thrilled at the idea of the return of manufacturing to the US. It has to start some time if we are going to be a sovereign, successful nation. But, in thinking about this like I were a potential manufacturer starting up a business in the US, I am thinking long term.
Let’s say that you have an idea to set up an offset printing factory in the US. You get investors or loans lined up, then find the machinery or have it made, train workers, acquire land, water, and electrical services, construct the actual factory building, source the paper and materials needed. There are necessary advertising of your services, maybe salesmen to go out and attract the publishers to use your offset printing business. It will take a while to get started and perfect processes. It won’t be profitable for a while, but in another 2 years you are starting to make a little profit and beginning to pay off the loans or investors a little.
And then 3.5 years from now, there is a new president who erases all the tariffs and offset printing is back in China because it is cheaper. All your investment is erased.
This is a 10-20 year project for profitable, competitive businesses to be set up in the US. If I were an investor, I would be really cautious.
This had to start some time, but it also has to be kept going for long enough to really work. Or am I way off here?
Not 3.5 years from now.
Look what the Rino senators have tried already.
They will try and slip all kinds of poisonous bills in every piece of legislation.
No you are not way off. It is America’s instability from one administration to the next. That has driven manufacturing from our shores and kept it away. On again off again taxes and regulations make it impossible to run, operate and plan for the future.
Business and the stock market, where business get investment to grow, need stability.
Today is a perfect example of the un stability in America that contracts business.
I can’t believe you have a post where you’re not whining about tariffs. You and California Joe are the consummate concern trolls here.
Her and Joe’s comments and questions aren’t false. Just from a different perspective. Should I be happy I just lost roughly $50k from my 401k in the last 3 months, and not knowing what today will bring , maybe a cool $100k? Asking for a friend.
I don’t know your age, but in general, you shouldn’t pay any attention to it. Continue to dollar cost average and take advantage of cheaper shares. In the meantime, look at a long-term chart of the S&P, and you’ll see that this is nothing more than a blip. Just like the people freaking out during COVID and moving to cash. That’s a terrible (emotional) move, and if you had held firm, you would have recouped everything. The market has always trended up, and part of that is driven by all of the new retirement contributions continually being invested. There is no reason to panic. So no, of course you shouldn’t be happy, but the reality is that 2 years from now, this paper loss will be meaningless.
As difficult as it may be for some people, we can’t just continue the status quo. The path we are on currently is not sustainable. I’ll gladly sacrifice very short-term market pain for long-term benefit.
Wish we could mute trolls on CTH. It would be fun watching them come up with new account names all the time.
It’s been handled….
Well, I never recovered from 98 was it? I stayed in the market for the next 20 years and was lucky to make back what I lost. That is why when I retired 9 years ago I went fixed.
Excellent time to buy more and this will turn around as the economy starts to move upwards. You know that. The market fluctuates all the time. Wall Street is angry at Pres. Trump and his defense of Main Street, so let the manipulations begin. The market is not ever your friend. It’s a huge gamble all the time and the odds are with the house, aka Wall Street. Take your money out or move into safer parts of the market like money market or bonds if it is scaring you at present, but it sure is an excellent time to buy some cheaper and solid stocks, imo. No advice, just an opinion.
I have over and over and over said that I am all for tariffs. We should have been making our own products all along and I will be glad to see manufacturing return to the US.
Go back and read. I don’t know how I could have been any more clear.
However, I do not like that this is called a “reciprocal tariff” when it is not based on any tariff that another country has put on us. It is based on our trade deficit with different countries.
Put on as high a tariff as you want, but don’t lie to me about what it is.
🎯!!!
I firmly believe that if our elections were secured and legitimate, the instability would disappear. There’s been an internal war going on between We the People and The Powers The Be.
💯 ignore the obvious trolls.
You are correct. Hope and pray the right people are elected in years to come.
Hope, pray and WORK, to recruit and support the right candidates.
That is something we the people of MAGA have to be vigilant about and make sure the right people are elected. Cannot sit back and hope; we have to fight fight fight all the time.
The fraud has prevented the right candidates from being elected . It’s all about wiping out fraud , it’s still rampant .
Democrats cannot win if the fraud is wiped out and they know it . That’s why they go ballistic when fraud is brought up.
President Trump Targets Voter Fraud, Democrats Go Insane .
https://newswithviews.com/president-trump-targets-voter-fraud-democrats-go-insane/
That’s the way the fortune cookie sometimes crumbles gang.
A couple of weeks back when commenting on an article relating to U.S. manufacturing in N.C. I was regaling in the quality of the dining room suite in our cottage on Vancouver Island.
Not being on the Island I had guessed at the name of the manufacturer ( and was “ way off”)
Well I am there now, and sitting at the table.
Upon flipping a chair the tag states Do not remove under penalty of law.
Made by Bernhardt Furniture Company
Lenoir North Carolina.
A family in Surrey B.C. Canada had bought it new around 1950 or so.
I received it from one of the sons a couple of years ago, and here I sit.
The suite has a special spot in our 100 year + place on Vancouver Island.
Cheers!
That is what I am talking about, D! I bet the set is as sturdy as the day it was assembled. The German and Scots- Irish bloodlines in NC had a knack for turning out gorgeous pieces.
Hi, I am Scots born and know many German and Irish immigrants here in British Columbia.
My research into “ the suite” has shown that there was a massive French influence in N.C.
Hence that many towns have names that end in ville.
The things one learns at TCTH.
Cheers to you!
North Carolina received many German settlers who landed at Pennsylvania and moved south before the American Revolutionary War. Then many moved west into Tennessee and to Missouri after a few generations. One example were the ancestors of Rush Limbaugh, which was originally spelled as Limbach and Limback sometimes.
The Bernhardt family is another example of Germans who arrived before the Revolutionary War, but stayed in North Carolina for several generations.
Love your posts. I’m a lifelong resident of NC. Lenoir was a furniture manufacturing hub here for generations until our country was decimated by NAFTA. We still cling to some of the heritage. There is an international furniture market held in High Point, NC twice annually. Furniture manufacturers and buyers come from all over the world. Here’s praying the entrepreneurial spirit reawakens. There are still many craftsmen in this area.
Bought a beautiful dark blue leather tufted living room sofa from Marshall Fields in Houston about 45 years ago (expensive then, $ 2,500+) and I still use it. It was made with American hard wood (white oak) in High Point, NC and is still ‘rock solid’,…. although one leather seat pillow has a tear from an inebriated idiot neighbor jumping up and down on it in New Orleans 20 years later.
Buy Quality, classic style furniture and clothing and you come out way ahead economically in the long run,… and you live and look better in the bargain.
When on a Biz trip in Vietnam/China in early ’90s, I found that every one wanted products with the label “Made In USA” on it, due to quality design, engineering, MFG, performance and durability. They didn’t want knock-offs from Singapore or China,… everything from motors, water pumps, spark plugs to clothing.
MAGA – Bring quality MFG/Jobs back to Golden Era America First, Donald,… and the buying world will be America’s oyster.!
Nice and lucky you to be in such a beautiful spot to enjoy that table and chairs! Enjoy it thoroughly.
okay so this is when I get to rant.
I but LOTS of stuff from temu.
almost every single product sold (especially those that I buy) are identical except with packaging and labeling, the same stuff that Amazon and Walmart sells. It’s likely the same exact manufacturing in China for all of these items. The difference is that Walmart and amazon markup the price significantly.
so my question is simple: will this new trade policy also impact Amazon and Walmart? we can’t ignore this reality. And yes, sure I would want most of these products to be manufactured in the US. But that doesn’t exist and its very unlikely it could happen. It’s mostly the reality that American workers demand proper living wages. I get that. But “we” are stuck in this weird global market whether we like to be or not. China will always produce inexpensive items far below cost levels that the west can produce. Not everything obviously, but I am talking about simple items…items that do not require leaps of technology and manufacturing competence. Just cheap labor and a fairly regulations free economic policy, which the US simply does not have.
to make these trade policies achieve fairness to consumers, it would seem to me that applying them to amazon and walmart has to be in the conversation.
rant over
God Bless America
I’m wearing 3 dollar “cheaters”…the same exact 1.5 full lens ansi z87 safety cheaters, identical in every way, but amazon and Walmart sells them at 15 bucks a pop.
tell me again, how these trade policies “hurt” china and help US companies?
where is the discussion about a free market where competition wins, and in this case, aiming fully at the massive markup schemes of Amazon and walmart?
God Bless America
I always appreciate your posts.
My understanding of macro economic issues is kindergarten grade level.
My position is what has been going on is unsustainable, and a collapse of the U.S. and our Canada too was inevitable.
Where we live Asian ( primarily Chinese) and Indian primarily Sikh) drive local import businesses.
They buy directly through their native countries, and “ park “ a % of revenues in commercial and multi unit residential properties.
My Chinese born neighbour that lives directly across from us appears to be “decent sort” and we have had several interesting chats.
He informed me about nuances of Chinese banking laws and as to the limits set by the Chinese government on moving money from China to Canada, and by whom.
Canadian institutions were co-opted decades ago and have been awakened with the rise of President Trump.
Cheers!
Retiger, of course this will impact Walmart and Amazon.
Walmart, being the world’s largest corporation, imports a majority of its non-food products from China, as we all know. (And even some food products)
The question is, how will the CCP react to the potential impact to their economy, which puts the CCP in a precarious position. An economic collapse of their economy could force a change in the ruling clique.
My thought is that there will be significant negotiating behind the scenes.
China is Walmarts fastest growth sector in the world
. They are building Walmarts all over China. No negotiating. Walmart will do whatever China says. That means prices in US go up.
That is what happens when you start Trade Wars.
I’ve been anti Walmart for many years. I hope their prices go through the roof and they implode. Remember when they were all about MADE IN THE USA? Ah yes… the old bait and switch. F-em in the neck.
The bait and switch started when Sam Walton died and the children took over the company.
Walmart already said no.
The US holds all the cards and always has. It’s been explained many times on this very site.
Period.
You still are not grasping this. This is the beginning of the end of the trade war.
will it though>?
“Ends Duty-Free De Minimis Treatment for All Chinese Goods“
I am pretty sure that duty-free de minimis as this trade sanction is languaged does hot halt Walmart or Amazon from buying these items from china and then marking them up.
It’s a serious question. what are we really protecting here? the US consumer….obviously not. It’s large US corporations that are being protected…the same large corporations who are making a royal mint by marking up goods they buy and then retail to us consumers. If you think about it, this deminis simply favors Amazon and Walmart and the like. At the expense of the consumer who cannot chose to simply bypass the retailer layers and go to source. This does NOTHING to squeeze china manufacturing…it simply means they will use Amazon and walmart and continue that way. as they are already doing. Maybe I have this wrong, but I don’t think I do. de minumus is about scale. temu and other online stores have used this to ship at the lowest costs possible…and before this policy, was perfectly legal. it’s only NOW that these alt stores are hitting record sales and shifting sales from walmart and amazon, do the alarms go off. I want more choices that Amazon and Walmart. I want to cut out the middle man who offers nothing of value to the goods I buy. It’s just that simple. this policy takes that choice away from me.
God Bless America
I carried a Letter of Intent from Walmart to Gov of Vietnam/interested local VN franchise buyers to enter their 70 million buying market, while on a Biz/Trade trip to Vietnam/China in ’94. I was Pres of an Asia Business Development/Consulting firm in HOTX.
Imagine the revenues form selling soap, paper products, baby diapers, etc., to 70 million? VN’s distribution market wasn’t ready for big box stores at that time, merchandising was still down to the local neighborhood small store as it had been in the early 20th Century in the USA.
When asked at a biz nighttime diner party with the prospective Walmart store builders how big were the Walmart stores in America, I couldn’t get through to them until I told them the size of a USA Super Walmart store was equal to the Saigon soccer stadium field we passed on the way to the Saigon First District restaurant,… they were aghast,… couldn’t believe it.
I also visited their sport shoe mfg plant in an open aircraft hanger with hundreds of females working on commercial Juki machines sewing the uppers to the rubber shoe soles shipped in from Taiwan. It was owned by the local VN bizmen wanting the Walmart franchise.
The women made about .50 a day and you could hear a pin drop in the place cuz they were paid by the piece, not wages. No Unions at all, cuz with 70 million mostly poor people, a $ making job was precious to the workers.
We offered to sell their shoes to Walmart at about $ 8 – 10 dollar ea,… but were declined as Walmart said they could get them for about $ 5 ea. (probably China).
Talk about American suckers then and now,…. the mark up from $ 5-10 after shipping to $ 40 – 150 ea. (hello, Nike) proves your point about US Corp gouging/greed mixed with politics and US foreign Policy.
The VN shoe company owners that were interested in getting the Walmart store franchise in VN were already selling their shoes to France, Canada and Japan. They needed the Walmart shoe contract to be able to afford building the Walmart stores in Saigon (HCMC) then. Walmart took the long view, IMHO.
End result,… No Shoe and/or Walmart franchise Deal worth untold $ Billions,…. but I certainly learned a lot about the Asian market/ MFG and USA Corp purchasing policies.
Pappa Bush’s NAFTA (CRAPTA) and Bill Clinton’s China MFN status sold us down the river*
(*hat tip: Mark Twain)
I have a memory of a sundance article a while back explaining that the Temu app sucks up your data like a fire hose and probably implants malware as well.
I had bought a few items from them – a couple of solar lanterns that still work, and same for a couple of solar light strings. They were dead cheap and I never expected them to last long.
And luckily I had bought only from the plain web site – I hate adding new apps, bad enough glut with the ones I’ve already ended up with.
But as soon as I saw what sundance said (I hope I am remembering correctly that the info was here), I stopped dead buying on Temu.
EVERY app you use sucks up “your data”…Every single one.
look I’m no fan of China…on principle that’s my position…but these sanctions that do nothing to stop china selling to amazon and Walmart seems more than just obvious..
regitiger- I am right there with you. In addition to my other “real” jobs I have been buying and selling stuff for decades.
I sell online and also have had brick and mortar shops as well as doing flea market type venues.
If you know what you’re doing, and you’re a smart retailer, there’s a lot of great stuff on the Chinese websites like Temu, Ali Express, etc. Also, there are no doubt millions of Americans who can’t afford the finer things when it comes to some of the stuff that people have mentioned. They could be collateral damage it seems.
I support President Trump 100% and understand what he’s trying to do, but sorry to say that these tariffs on the low end goods, even dollar store stuff, are going to effect a lot people. And not in a good way.
President Trump is working at warp speed to accomplish an economic turnaround but things are still tough here in middle class America. I don’t like being forced to pay the markup on Walmart, Amazon or Ebay goods when I can get them cheaper direct from China. Sorry, but that’s the truth.
Is there anything to prevent them shipping packages to another country first that still benefits from deminimis treatment? Circuitous route perhaps but a better option than 25$/50$ price tag or closing up shop for temu or shein.
US tracking.
I don’t understand what the hell you said. Are you pro or con?
It sure reads like he’s CON. If so, he lacks understanding the importance of tariffs.
Check…
And Mate!
This is going to put a big damper on the Fentanyl ingredients, closing border was first line of defense
Over decades, our elites have sent most of our prescription drug manufacturing overseas, mostly to China. How dumb can we be, to allow our adversaries to have such leverage over us? And now will these tariffs increase the cost of our meds?
The USA MUST be once again make our drugs on our own soil.
I also heard PresidentTrump say to the Irish leader… on his St Patrick’s Day visit to the White House…..that many of our pharmaceuticals are made in Ireland.
I did not know that.
True,…. but cuz of President Trump’s Fair Trade Policies, E. I. Lily has announced that it is coming back to America First and investing $ 3 Billion in new pharma plants.
Sic’em again, Donald,… and tell the Legacy Media/Marxist Global Merikkka Last Dims to sukonit.
https://investor.lilly.com/news-releases/news-release-details/lilly-announces-3-billion-expansion-its-recently-acquired
This is great news.
This is going to cripple them, and they will have to take an extra step and come from another country. Once we figure out what country or countries are, we will impose duties and tariffs on that country. This will force these countries to police themselves.
SPLODEY-HEADS-R-US
Wherever you are, Mitch, here’s hoping you, your wife, and your dead sister-in-law would still agree it was all worth it
WOW
Opportunity for Americans to stop buying useless cheap trinkets and tee shirts that barely last through the first wash cycle. You can find most of that crap at garage sales or thrift stores. Win win for everyone’s pocketbooks.
Question:
Could China route these goods to another country (like Vietnam) and have them relabeled as “Product of Vietnam” and be able to sell them to the US market without paying duties and customs?
We see companies doing something similar now with food products.
We permit beef or chicken or whatever else, raised in other countries to be imported here and marketed as “Product of the USA” if their final processing occurred in the USA.
Probably a dumb question, but here goes.
The announcement says:
“Following the Secretary of Commerce’s notification that adequate systems are in place to collect tariff revenue, President Trump is ending duty-free de minimis treatment for covered goods from the People’s Republic of China (PRC) and Hong Kong starting May 2, 2025 at 12:01 a.m. EDT.”
My question: Does it also end de minimis treatment for Taiwan? Only the PRC is mentioned.
Asked the Brave AI:
Does Trump De Minimis Order Include TaiwanPresident Trump’s de minimis order does not explicitly mention Taiwan. The order primarily targets China and Hong Kong, imposing duties on low-value imports from these regions. However, the Commerce Secretary is required to submit a report within 90 days to assess the order’s impact and consider whether to extend these rules to packages from Macau, but not specifically Taiwan.
Steph_gray, no question is ever a dumb question. I was wondering the same about Taiwan. Hopefully we will get an answer from a better informed Treeper. Have a wonderful evening.
Temu is evil. Screw China. They will be defeated by America 1000%
So now instead of a package being sent direct China->US it will go to a intermediate country, be optionally re-packaged and then ship to the US.
Sort of like AWS warehouse shipping.
It’s like water: you plug a hole somewhere but if you do not address the source of the leak it will just pop out somewhere else.
I bet PDJT and his economic team did not think of that!/////////
They already have the historical data on how much a country ships/imports into the USA. If that increases then those countries risk having punitive tariffs place on them.
Most of the stuff that ships in direct is just junk, ordered some clothing that looked like nice stuff and when i got it was the absolute worst polyester garbage ive ever seen, threw it all away, never again, LL Bean, Cabellas, Brunt, otherwise forget it
I think President Trump should, without delay, make an full-scale, old-school, programming-pre-empting, Oval Office address to Americans, to get ahead of a backlash in the younger voters.
I know so, so many younger women who rely on Shein and Temu for very affordable, great-looking (though not durable) clothing.
They’re about to get a bucket of very cold water in the face and, being in their 20s, very, very few have the slightest understanding of the tariff issue.
These voters slid toward Trump in 2024. If he doesn’t give them a primer on the de-minimus tariff change, and why there needs to be some short-term pain to reach long-term gain, they will slide away in 2026, based upon the large price increases on their favored “night-out” clothing. This could sink Trump’s second term by giving away Congress.
I hope someone at the White House will read this and give it serious consideration. College kids will vote their “fun-money” pocketbook, and coming Shein and Temu tariffs are quite likely to make many of them regret their 2024 Trump votes!
I think you may be confused. Young women didn’t skew toward Trump at all. Just the opposite, unfortunately. Thank goodness for the men, at least they have some common sense. These same women who cry about men in their sports are the ones voting for all the left wing nonsense, and they have zero self awareness. It’s one of the most preposterous situations and is why I have no sympathy on the transgender issue.
Well, actually, it’s not 100% (things rarely are).
I can’t name the percentage, but there are young MAGA women throughout the country – most of them good-looking, willing and even eager to marry, and able to discern true masculinity when they see it.
Sisterhood may be Powerful (doing what your crowd does), but even more powerful is: Girls Go Where the Boys Are – and the Boys are with Trump.
Well in my southern area, there are a TON of college-age girls who lean strongly MAGA.
That’s why I’m thinking that the Shein/Temu issue should be specifically explained to them.
They can be 100% MAGA, but it’s risky to get between lower-wage MAGA women and their “going-out” clothing!!
😉
I agree with Chris, that college age demo is most likely the least of the concern, when i was that age an old guy who was a family friend told me, “never be afraid to buy the best” he said “it will always make you satisfied with your purchase” he was right, was regarding tools, and that still holds true today.
IMHO, the demographic you mentioned, most likely was a majority liberal anyway and the ones who are conservative will have enough moxy to understand what the deal is.
Tommyboy, I believe if polls were taken, it’s the lower-wage young women who lean Trump (yes, influenced by the boys’ opinions), but the big price increases for Shein/Temu will be risky for that electoral segment. I spend a lot of time with this age group, ad I cannot ever recall seeing two companies corner the youth market like Shein/Temu.
If they don’t have the money, they can’t buy the better-quality stuff. Gen Z is pretty broke. I can’t count how many times in the last couple years I asked a young woman where she got an especially cool-looking outfit, and the answer was “Shein.”
So it’s just food for thought.
PSA announcement from your favorite ‘anti planned obsolescence Treeper’ LL Bean—I bought a canvas brief case in 1999…very pretty and monogramed…Still using it….along with my wool lined Baxter State Parker jacket. Some one had that jacket for sale for over $200, on ebay….
Columbia on the other hand, has decline in quality and advanced in price.
This is what we are up against:
What Globalist Strategies Have Been Postulated for Centralizing Control?
A Lesson in Globalism…
GL HENDRICKS
APR 03, 2025
(The article is well illustrated with charts, cross references, etc. IMO worthy of bookmarking for future reference)
https://open.substack.com/pub/diamondz/p/what-globalist-strategies-have-been?
The following does not include the subject of strategic materials. This is not a trade war. It seems from a multitude of comments, the rationale behind POTUS Trump’s policy of tarrifs gets somewhat backgrounded. Note, Potus Trump remarked on more than one occasion that he advocates for free trade (no barriers – 0% tarrifs – between trading partners). That stated, all tarrifs the US are going to be imposing are reciprocal tarrifs. Basically, the impending US reciprocal tarrifs are in response to the “trade war” being inflicted on the US by those countries who are going to be the recipants of the new US reciprocal tarrifs. The end result on a country by country basis (notwithstandling other country specific negotiations) is a net equalization of trade (tarrifs equal tarrifs) barriers which opens markets to all comers. The time has come for the Marshall Plan and other like economic assistant policies to end. The US must quit being the world’s money trough, at the demise of the US, that other countries believe is their right to just dip their pail into and take money at their convenience when they are not contributing to the trough. This action implemented by POTUS Trump will reset the dynamics in that the one way global ecomonic highway has just been converted to a two way thoroughfare and the world better take notice because the off and likewise return on ramp jouneys are going to be painful affairs for the leaches per their initial reactions.
Will be interesting to watch the Dollar (and a quarter) Stores…….
I find it interesting that I have a SHEIN distributor warehouse just a short walk from my home. Built up over the pandemic, DOZENS UPON DOZENS of huge tilt up concrete warehouses were speedily built through COVID during a time when raw materials were at a premium – sometimes upwards of 30% to 70% normal cost – and labor was suffering the isolation effect.
Where, oh where, were the construction companies getting all the money and labor to build these sunset blocking, farmland gobbling, warehouses from hell during a time when Americans and small business were suffering?
Did China have an inside scoop so they could bring as much cr@p into America as possible and store it, before these tariffs hit? My Five Below thinks so…
So long “Made in China.”
Jeff’s wedding is not going to be so grand after all. Maybe this will give him cold feet.
Since many of us here are weak in our knowledge of the Mandarin Chinese language. I’ll use my decades of military training to translate the latest CCP news headlines for y’all.
“Oh SH*T, Trump actually did it! OMG, now we’re so F**KED! “
Compliments.
(Oh, and it works in German, French, Flemish, Spanish, and other EU languages as well! It’s almost as if they’re using the same talking points! Even the profanity works the same way. Amazing!)
The djia down over 1600
I must say my retirement , which I am in cause I’m old
Is in shambles
This is scary for my husband and me
are you withdrawing all the money tomorrow?
do you think the market might possibly go back up? thereby restoring your paper losses? and progressing farther upwards with time?
whaddya think?
It’s mostly MAGA that will be hurt by this. $25 to bring in a $10 order.
I recently had to replace a water heater and a kitchen faucet. I was fortunately able to by Made in USA. However, when it came to keep components such as pipes and fittings, the only supplies in the hardware store were made in Mexico or China.
I needed to do some repairs to my rain gutters to prep for winter. When I originally installed it, it was made in USA. Now, it is made in Canada. The parts are not interchangeable. I said to hell with it and used Gorilla Tape instead.
Frankly, I’m pretty tired of funding countries that are really not our friends.
Uh….a Declaration of War…
And just like that —-POOF!!
AliExpress is another Chinese owned online retailer that’s going to get hit hard by this.
Expect the yuan to crater soon.
Now, we just have to get the incandescent light bulb situation sorted out.
I miss K-Mart…
What is to stop the Chinese from shipping this stuff to another country – say Vietnam – and then shipping from there to the US?
This might put a stop to those annoying Temu ads.
Still ain’t tired of Winning!!!
Trump rocks! FAFO China.
Had never heard of Temu. Now it’s all over my homepage (MSN, yeah, I know, my husband is old school internet, I don’t rock the boat). Biggest Sale Ever! Shop Now! Free Shipping! Guessing it’s cheap Chinese crap? I never click on anything on the homepage, not about to start, lol.
I will gladly pay more to by American made medicines. Let’s be honest, I don’t trust the quality control of CCP manufactured goods.
Please ignore the obvious concern and trade war trolls on this site. Their concerns were already proved wrong during Trump’s first term. And the noticeable economic benefits were one of the main reasons they did all they could to cheat and ruin the economy in 2020! It was NOT a coincidence!!!
Wow never seen this many fake patriot concern trolls here. The best part is the reason. We are over the target!!!
All they speak of will come to naught. LOL 😆 🤣 😂 !
Very happy with POTUS on tariffs. Now China and the globalists are paying off our Senators and other Congressmen to go against Trump. And folks like Grassley think this will curry favor with his voters?
They lie and talk about increased prices for Americans with tariffs while they did not raise a finger to reign in out of control spending during the Biden years resulting in higher grocery prices. THEY DID NOTHING.