According to Jeffrey Goldberg from The Atlantic [SEE HERE], National Security Advisor Mike Waltz invited him to a group chat on the Signal app, where various Trump administration officials and cabinet members were discussing how to address the Houthi rebels in Yemen in advance of military airstrikes.
The media is having a field day with the story, and it does have multiple angles that will unfold in the next several days and weeks. Some media even claiming the story could take down Mike Waltz and/or Pete Hegseth due to the national security implications in the series of events [Politico Here]. However, I wouldn’t go that far at all.
(left, Mike Waltz – right, Pete Hegseth)
Why Mike Waltz would be texting an invite to Jeffrey Goldberg is an issue for later discussion. Generally, given the nature of these things it is not the principal who sets up the text network, usually a top aide or lead staff, which might indicate Waltz’s wife Julia Nesheiwat was involved [SEE WHY], but let’s put that aside.
Goldberg claims “details of war plans” were discussed in the group chat. Perhaps so, perhaps not. This specific part of the story is refuted by Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth. What was discussed and further shared and outlined by Breitbart News [SEE HERE] is a conversation about the strategic reasoning for the U.S. to directly attack the Houthi rebels in Yemen and reopen the sea lanes into and out of the Suez Canal.
The EU and Egypt are the primary beneficiaries of U.S. involvement toward stopping the Houthi terrorists from targeting ships in the region. Egypt manages the Suez Canal, and obviously there are some strategic U.S. benefits in the region from helping Egypt deal with the Houthi issue. Specifically, as President Trump seeks to have Egypt, Saudi Arabia and partners help solve the problem in Gaza.
Additionally, most of the shipping through the region is headed to the European Union through the canal. Reestablishing safe maritime flow of goods economically assists the EU more than any other region. Again, a point of leverage for the Trump administration as President Trump confronts the issues of EU support for a Ukraine conflict he is trying to resolve.
These geopolitical considerations show up in the story as JD Vance engaged in the text message discussion, as shared by Breitbart News:
The 18 members of the group chat included Waltz, Vice President JD Vance, Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard, CIA Director John Ratcliffe, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, Secretary of State Marco Rubio, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent, United States Special Envoy to the Middle East Steve Witkoff, White House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles, someone believed to be Homeland Security Advisor and White House Deputy Chief of Staff for Policy Stephen Miller, and others.
The group chat was called “Houthi PC small group,” with PC meaning “Principals Committee” — a reference to the group of top decision-makers from each agency during National Security Council meetings.
Waltz reportedly sent the following message on March 13:
Team — establishing a principles [sic] group for coordination on Houthis, particularly for over the next 72 hours. My deputy Alex Wong is pulling together a tiger team at deputies/agency Chief of Staff level following up from the meeting in the Sit Room this morning for action items and will be sending that out later this evening.
Pls provide the best staff POC from your team for us to coordinate with over the next couple days and over the weekend. Thx.
Members of the group chat then sent names for points of contact for them on the strikes.
The next day, Waltz told the group they should have received messages in their classified computer and communications systems regarding taskings.
The text conversation then begins a dive into the geopolitical considerations behind any operation with a myriad of issues to be considered. Vice-President JD Vance overlays the strategic geopolitical dynamic:
Vance said regarding the strikes, “I think we are making a mistake,” adding, “3 percent of US trade runs through the Suez. 40 percent of European trade does. There is a real risk that the public doesn’t understand this or why it’s necessary. The strongest reason to do this is, as POTUS said, to send a message.”
“I am not sure the president is aware how inconsistent this is with his message on Europe right now. There’s a further risk that we see a moderate to severe spike in oil prices. I am willing to support the consensus of the team and keep these concerns to myself. But there is a strong argument for delaying this a month, doing the messaging work on why this matters, seeing where the economy is, etc.,” he argued.
The back and forth between Defense Secretary Hegseth, National Security Advisor Mike Waltz, Vice-President JD Vance and Assistant Chief of Staff to POTUS, Stephen Miller, is then included:
Hegseth reportedly wrote, “VP: I understand your concerns — and fully support you raising w/ POTUS. Important considerations, most of which are tough to know how they play out (economy, Ukraine peace, Gaza, etc). I think messaging is going to be tough no matter what — nobody knows who the Houthis are — which is why we would need to stay focused on: 1) Biden failed & 2) Iran funded.”
He reportedly added, “Waiting a few weeks or a month does not fundamentally change the calculus. 2 immediate risks on waiting: 1) this leaks, and we look indecisive; 2) Israel takes an action first — or Gaza cease fire falls apart — and we don’t get to start this on our own terms. We can manage both. We are prepared to execute, and if I had final go or no go vote, I believe we should. This [is] not about the Houthis. I see it as two things: 1) Restoring Freedom of Navigation, a core national interest; and 2) Reestablish deterrence, which Biden cratered. But, we can easily pause. And if we do, I will do all we can to enforce 100% OPSEC—operations security. I welcome other thoughts.”
Waltz then reportedly posted a “lengthy note” about trade figures, and the limited capabilities of European navies.
“Whether it’s now or several weeks from now, it will have to be the United States that reopens these shipping lanes. Per the president’s request we are working with DOD and State to determine how to compile the cost associated and levy them on the Europeans,” Waltz said.
Vance then reportedly wrote to Hegseth, “if you think we should do it let’s go. I just hate bailing Europe out again.”
Hegseth responded: “VP: I fully share your loathing of European free-loading. It’s PATHETIC. But Mike is correct, we are the only ones on the planet (on our side of the ledger) who can do this. Nobody else even close. Question is timing. I feel like now is as good a time as any, given POTUS directive to reopen shipping lanes. I think we should go; but POTUS still retains 24 hours of decision space.”
The person identified as potentially [Stephen] Miller wrote, “As I heard it, the president was clear: green light, but we soon make clear to Egypt and Europe what we expect in return. We also need to figure out how to enforce such a requirement. EG, if Europe doesn’t remunerate, then what? If the US successfully restores freedom of navigation at great cost there needs to be some further economic gain extracted in return.”
Hegseth reportedly responded, “Agree.” (Sourcing)
Anyone who follows the intersection of U.S. policy and geopolitical analysis would be fascinated, but this type of discussion doesn’t come as any big surprise. Indeed, the conversation is quite factually correct and the type of prudent background one would expect to see in any decision-making conversation of strategic importance.
In essence, every fly on the wall would be supportive of the tone, angles and prudent ‘American Interest’ considerations within the conversation. This overview is, quite simply, what we would expect to see. There is no negative here outside the fact the security of the conversation was seemingly compromised by Waltz, or someone on his behalf, inviting a journalist to watch it.
When Mike Waltz was selected as National Security Advisor, one of my first outlines included my expectation that “Waltz would likely to be the first Trump official removed from his position.” My thinking at the time was essentially that Congressman Mike Waltz and his wife Julia Nesheiwat (national security background) held traditional interventionist beliefs (neocon tendencies) in combination with ideological alignment with the climate change crowd.
The DC social circle of Mike Waltz and Julia Nesheiwat almost certainly contains friends with Jeffrey Goldberg’s outlook and worldview (a Pence like tribe). How would that interventionist, pro-NATO, pro-industrial military complex, social circle balance with a hardline ‘America First’ geopolitical policy approach. It is an ongoing question.
Up until this issue with Jeffrey Goldberg, both Nat Sec Advisor Mike Waltz and Secretary of State Marco Rubio have seemed to embrace President Trump’s foreign policy, and both have delivered on the execution of that policy.
I also find it very interesting that former Senate Intel Committee Chairman, now Secretary of State Marco Rubio is included in the Signal app chat group as reported, but there are no remarks from him within it.
It is important for us to remember, the entire apparatus of the DC foreign policy establishment, including the legislative branch members who benefit financially from policy, are against President Trump’s larger “America First” geopolitical efforts. The same opposition exists from the EU and NATO traditionalists.
An inside story like this is blood in the piranha pool for all those interests who oppose Donald Trump.
The content of the chat messaging, at least what we can see, is a non-issue. However, as this story unfolds it will be interesting to watch how Mike Waltz responds to questions about his ‘accidental’ inclusion of Jeffrey Goldberg in the chat group. How exactly did that happen?


What surprises me is the prevarication regarding attacking an entity that has already attacked our own ships. My view is that if you attack us we automatically attack you, preferably 10 times as hard to dissuade future attacks. I feel the same about hostages, Carter screwed the whole hostage crisis in 1979 by being a weakling. This action led to the whole acceptance of Iran foreign terror in ensuing decades.
As for the leak, it should be investigated and lessons learned, no fake panic necessary.
The thing is, the Houthis haven’t attacked us since they agreed to a ceasefire. We’re the ones who broke that agreement. The real problem is Israel, who never honored the ceasefire agreement with Hamas and are hellbent on ethnically cleansing and annexing Gaza and the West Bank, and the fact that Israel and its DC lobby have almost all of our federal elected officials by the balls.
What a pile of bs. Jihaddies always lie.
https://www.youtube.com/live/NBUU6tO2fYc?si=1DefSYYSvJdx3xR5
https://www.youtube.com/live/hBvOVMx80u8?si=po0VM92ayfynyiZ6
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Maps of missile strikes in the Middle East….
should be your friend 😁😁
Except they didn’t lie this time! 🫡
Absolutely! ‘Israel’ is (as always), the neon elephant in the room which is consistently and conveniently ignored. MAGA has become MIGA.
It wasn’t a leak – Goldberg was included in the signal chat!
That’s the story at least. It’s not like Goldberg would lie to us or anything.
Who believes this besides those that believe Hunter Biden’s laptop was Russian disinformation and that Fauci is a saintly man?
Have yet to see the deterrence strategy of bombing a few goat herders work, but maybe the nth time’s the charm. Then again, trying to take and hold ground a la Afghan isn’t such a great idea either.
This was a set-up to take down Trump.
And you can tell from the hearing that they’re going to run the hysterical storyline as far and as hard as possible.
let them have him. cut him lose.
we can’t leave this attack vector open, never a good idea especially so early in the administration
Indeed watch the Demonrats running their hysterical questioning making Jasmine Crockett and AOC look like sane people. I wonder why they questioned Obama delivering 1.6 billion to Tehran in unmarked foreign currency. The Demonrats are so patriotic and pro American.
Your other comments did not get posted because of the following….
The Houthis have harassed this shipping lane for so long and so thoroughly that ship traffic is a trickle. Most Americans aren’t aware of this now quite longstanding issue and so just incorrectly assume that our actions are for the benefit of Israel. We need public relations on this, perhaps an evening address by the President.
The Houthis honored the ceasefire agreement and they only started targeting shipping in the Red Sea as a means of intervening in Israel’s ethnic cleansing/wholesale slaughter campaign against the Palestinians, which we’re a party to, to our national shame. Israel never honored the ceasefire agreement they signed, and we broke the ceasefire with the Houthis. We’re the bad guys here.
Nertz! to the Houthis.
Actually, and especially in this case.
The flip-flop warriors, as some call them
are regarded as…..Heroes!
They are the ones who actually have the
guts to be morally right and stand by their
conviction and belief.
The World knows about the Ethnic Cleansing
and Genocide that is…and has been going
on in Gaza.
Not like it is any kind of secret💁♀️🤷♀️
What do you do when your house is infested with cockroaches and they decide to invade your neighbor’s house?
I see I was right about your blatant tone. God told Abraham that he would bless them that bless Israel and curse them that curse Israel That warning still stands
Oh dear… 🙄
No wonder so many youngsters are walking away from Christianity.
It is why I frequently hear….
If slaughter,genocide and ethnic cleansing is sanctioned by a verse in the Bible. They want nothing to do with Christianity.
Perhaps, this just another type ..nefarious attack on Christianity. To break support and tear it apart even more.👹
Her statement is false, see my reply above.
The Lord said no such thing.
It’s no wonder Western Christianity is void of power and death itself.
Yes.
I recognize the propaganda line that
has been used by so many-for so long.
It is to keep people “in check”😡
We don’t curse Israel or anyone else. It’s simply a matter of my $$$ not being spent here in the United States. Israel is free to spend their $$$ on anything they want.
Yet St John the Baptist declares:
“And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.”
No.
Genesis 12:3.
God makes a promise to Abraham.
This promise includes that God will bless those who bless Abraham
and curse those who curse him, and that through Abraham,
ALL THE FAMILIES of the earth will be blessed.
Israel didn’t exist in the days of Abraham.
The genetic Hebrews have not and will not number
the sands of the seashore, or the stars in the heavens.
Who are the children of THE promise ?
100000% correct!
The Houthi attacked/attack the shipping lane
in support of their Palestine brothers and sisters –
in Gaza.
Who are being genocided/ethnic cleansed by Israel.
That has been their official statement…known worldwide
since the attacks began.
The ships which they are targeting are ships to Israel.
The ship attacks stopped during the Ceasefire.
Once Israel stopped humanitarian aid from going to Gaza—
Israel broke ceasefire….predicted they would.🤷♀️💁♀️
The attacks started again.
Only people who are living under a rock don’t know that🙄
Or listen to mainstream/cable propaganda news.🥴
Highly recommend this video!!
A group of about a dozen or more
International Independent Journalists
and other journalists were in Yemen
covering a conference/event.
🙏 🙏 Thank God, Pepe is OK.
He must have been there for a reason…. 😇
Pepe Escobar was/is staying only about 2.5km
from the…Residential..Downtown building
that was hit!
The video is filled with….all kinds of very
interesting information.
Wasn’t aware of the close relations/connection
between China and other countries with Yemen.
Everyone only talks about Iran🤔🤔🤔
💥 💥 Obvious the whole endeavor has
been a royal cluster-mess in so many ways!
Especially DC and the target.💥💥
🙏 🙏 Pray for the civilians who died 🙏🙏
✝️ ✝️ The Lord works in mysterious ways-
Looks like he is sending a message by jinxing
the whole mission 😇 😇 😇 😇 ✝️ ✝️
Pepe Escobar : LIVE – EXCLUSIVE : First Interview From Yemen! – YouTube
Can’t wait for the US to employ thermo baric bombs on this hellhole. They deserve nothing less.
Keep going……👏👏👏
Show the World- Barbaric blood thirsty statements…..
just who and what the so called “victims” are
–and just how nice, peace loving they really are 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
Yeah, keep going…..👍👍
Exactly, God will surely be pleased with our burnt offering.
Even though He takes no pleasure in sacrifice…..
Hey, those Canadians are getting a little uppity lately….
Image how awesome a double sacrifice would be !
Precisely! There appears to be an epidemic of cognitive dissonance and whitewashing of ‘Israel’.
There’s a general ignorance of the God they claim to worship.
I’m by no means a scholar, but this is child’s play.
Israel is not the Kings spoiled child, who does and kills whomever.
I don’t see anything remotely close to “war plans” in the texts.
In fact, the discussion is no different than what you would hear in a Sunday morning Face the Nation interview of Rubio, Walz or Steve Witkoff!
On the other hand, why anyone would invite Goldberg into any internal discussion involving top administration officials is another issue altogether? Did Walz think Goldberg would like him afterwards!
Remember when President Trump gave 16 hours in an exclusive interview to Carl Bernstein at the Washington Post and then Bernstein stabbed him in the back!!!
You did not see any thing remotely close to “war plans” in the texts.
Because there are none. Except more of the same thing that has been going on for over a year now.
Unless we put Troops on the ground in Yemen . The SOS will just go on.
Ansarallah can hang in there longer that we can.
All these Aircraft carrier groups, useless bombing , defense of the ships with 4 million dollar missiles, and loosing a whole bunch 30 million dollar drones is costing us an economy.
Exactly! A big nothing burger without cheese. Another media tempest in a teapot like the nuclear codes at Mar-a-Lago!
The problem CJ is that people who claim to be MAGA – the outrage crowd – are believing/pushing the narrative.
Exactly, CCV!
Those aircraft carriers and defense ships
are sitting ducks. 🥴😖
Houthi have hyper sonics.
Well, they claim they have hypersonic missiles. Not clear that they actually do have them. Even if they do, that doesn’t mean they can target warships.
What a bad joke, timing, attack, allies are not mentioned? Ansaerallah will last slightly less than Saddam, remember that bold warrior of Islam, hiding in some foul cave under a kitchen? He will fight for about 5 minutes just as Saddam did when the Marines approached the presidential palace, he fled as did his troops, begging for mercy. Arabs are so brave, ever hear of Arab mercenaries-like the Swiss Guard, or the Foreign Legion, the Gurkhas? Its because my mother in law on a bad day could wipe out every last Houthi in about a week. The Israelis are better armed but not as mean.
Keep going👍👍👏👏👏
You are doing some wonderful PR work.
Not.🤣🤣
Yes, it really is quite comical. 😉
Sounds like we should send in the Israelis then, if your mother-in-law is not available.
You TJJ.. please…you don’t know nothing about YEMEN and their ppl…..WEST grossly underestimate their willpower…..
Are you saying that…. other people also want to live ?
And perhaps… They will also rise in defense of a weaker people ?
Exactly.
Hey, if those children didn’t want to be violated by Jews,
Then they shouldn’t have turned 3 years and 1 day !
President Trump has more holes in his back than a fifty pound block of swiss cheese.
i doubt anyone in the chat included goldberg.
someone in the intelligence community did.
i’m sure we have that technology.
moving forward…dont use phones.
totally agreed.
i had a friend who swore by Signal as a “secure” chat app. i spit milk out my nose when he reiterated he was serious.
Have no idea how secure Signal is, or maybe secure for what? But typically you have to run a system through accreditation to be able to use it. Though there are some exemptions for tactical systems.
All I know is, this situation was embarrassing. Anything more than that is just speculation, gossipmongering.
But I’ll be watching Waltz closely from here on out.
Why is Waltz not participating in this struggle session?
Wasn’t it already scheduled for a different hearing??
Who added the reporter to the list and why? Was he the only reporter added? I don’t think it was an accident. It was on purpose, but why.
Probably the IC at work.
Trump and Vance and Walz were sending a message to Egypt and the Europeans that the upcoming attack on the Houthis was for their benefit and that they owed the USA for this. If not for this obviously genuine conversation, the Europeans and Egypt could have supposed that Trump was attacking the Houthis for the sake of Israel. This message could secure Europe’s cooperation with the Ukraine peace deal and Egypt’s cooperation with taking in the Gazans.
Sorry, but I don’t understand how the Chief of Staff could’ve made such a mistake. After all, gatekeeping is her “principal” job!
We’ll see how the messaging either maintains or sullies PDJT’s awesomely high approvals w/ We the People at the moment. [And I realize some in the movement complain that POTUS’ central messaging component is lacking/not firing on all cylinders…this’ll be a test regarding that claim.]
Personally, I think the President’s ratings would tank more than a few points if he fires Waltz now -or so close to the war being satisfactorily negotiated to peace. I understand that’s what we (MAGA) would want him to do…but sometimes, you need to think outside of that.
What makes you think she had anything to do with it?
My questions: Why does Waltz have Goldbergs phone number? Is his chief of staff trying to undermine the administration?
The demons will try to blow this up for impeachment purposes but the public is aware of this stuff nowadays .
He didn’t have Goldberg’s number.
I think Waltz’s wife did.
Some leaks are more useful than others. I for one am relieved to discover that the Vice-President and SecDef share my loathing of the creatures who run the EU. No more freebies for that mob should be one of the architectural principles of our foreign policy now and forevermore.
End the circus, cut him lose.
People really got worked up about this? Of course “war plans” seems more like “security ideas,” as real war plans aren’t on devices that support easy texting, but hey! Never let facts get in the way of a sensational propaganda story!
It’s not “war plans”… at least nothing of the “salacious bits” that I read above… it’s simply geopolitical posturing/strategizing/manipulating/whatever… like “oh, by the way, we’re doing this sh*t work FOR YOU… AGAIN“… which is really what it all comes down to.
Seems like the typical international studies discussions that might get a neophyte worked up but is the standard piled higher and deeper for those who do this for a living.
Sure… but I have an even simpler view: this “Houthi thing” blocking off the trade lanes has been going on for a LONG TIME… like at least a couple years, possibly more. The previous administration did squat… so doing SOMETHING now was entirely inevitable. Status Quo is not an option… it’s a unsustainable situation. At that point, tt’s just a matter of “who wants to take the political hit and bomb the sh*t out of the brown people?”… and that’s why we need leaders like Trump.
If anybody out there is “surprised” that the attack(s) took place, then they’re not being intellectually honest…
First attack on Houthi was on 12 Jan 2024. 22 fixed wing attack aircraft and 80 cruise missiles in the attack.
Hmm,
No President Trump
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/03/trump-officially-ends-speculation-yemen-war-plans-group/
I guess Vance showed is true colors, why would he criticize PTrump…wow…good old Don Junior uses his poor judgement to hurt his father….
“Wow”.
Orange Mans VP Bad AND Orange Mans Son Bad too?
Hopefully human parrots repeating their PsyOp trainers squawking points are rewarded with chuckles and prayers rather than crackers and praise.
I think it would have been really cool if they had run the details of the attack TWO HOURS EARLY on the front page of the NYT!
Poor opsec**, if true*; Do better Team Trump.
*Who knows what the truth behind all this is.
** Blind ‘dialing’ on an app with NO verification via a 3rd contact (3rd party verification/3 factor authentication)
This could mean the end of Signal app use by the Government. Clever people working on destroying this administration only served to destroy the use of one of its favorite apps.
Live updates: Trump defends Mike Waltz after group text leak as Democrats demand answers
Trump, in a phone interview Tuesday with NBC News, stood by Walz in his first substantive remarks on the stunning security breach. “Michael Waltz has learned a lesson, and he’s a good man,” the president said.
Trump told NBC that Goldberg’s presence in the chat had “no impact at all” on the military operation.
“It was one of Michael’s people on the phone. A staffer had his number on there,” Trump said when asked what he was told about how Goldberg was added to the Signal chat.
Trump now has Waltz and his wife by the balls.
“Trump now has Waltz and his wife by the balls”.
So many balls.
In so many different courts.
Just the way PDJT likes it.
Thankfully PDJT thrives on ” chaos” while understanding his adversaries despise it. And why.
Which is why he intentionally amplifies chaos that already exists and creates it when the chaos starts to die down.
In many ways PDJT reminds me of an earlier President, Andrew Jackson, who famously said, “I was born for storms”.
Perhaps that’s why PDJT chose the portrait of Andrew Jackson to be in the Oval Office and hung it so Andrew’s was behind him as if backing him up while PDJT works there.
It was a terrible blunder. No labored spin changes that.
“It was a terrible blunder”.
Another derp state blunder.
A blunder that provides intel, giggles AND more ammo for PDJT to use
against the the derps.
March 25, 2025 12:30 pm
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The real scandal would have been if we discovered JD Vance, Pete Hegseth, etc. were saying one thing to voters in public while completely contradicting themselves in private. Instead, we have clear symmetry and consistency of messaging and ideology. We know these men actually believe what they’re saying in public.
https://t.me/CharlieKirk/19543
>Pence-like Tribe
>Goldberg
Well, it is a Tribe, alright
My impression, after reading this article several times, is that Sundance is concerned about Waltz, but not Goldberg.
I see zero reason to believe anything Goldberg says.
“I see zero reason to believe anything Goldberg says”.
Kudos for sharing psywar savvy and having spiritual warfare discernment.
“This one in particular I’ve never met, don’t know, never communicated with, and we’re looking into and reviewing how the heck he got into this room,” he [Wa;tz] said.
The likeliest explanation for Goldberg being included on the channel was his Signal profile name “JG” —the same initials as US Trade Representative Jamieson Greer, who often attends National Security Council meetings.
And if you believe that you’ll be glad to know FJB was at the top of his game during his presidency
Hmmm. It makes no sense that this reporter in particular would be included, even “accidentally” as I am certain there are more people with his initials on Signal. It is possible that anyone who hacked into Signal could have done this including a foreign entity, the “deep state”, or even the Democrats. My bet would either be on a foreign entity or an aide attempting to sabotage. It is interesting that Walz had noted to Lara Trump that foreign entities were heavily engaging in cyber warfare against us and that we may go on the offense in the near future. Lastly, of course, I would not trust this reporter given his record.
What’s the difference between Anwar al-Awlaki and Jeff Goldberg?
Both hold/held dual citizenship dividing their loyalty.
Awalaki was an anchor baby (pretty sure) as his parents were Yemeni.
Goldberg went and got dual citizenship after having been born an US Citizen.
This sure looks like an intentional (for profit) leak done to thwart peace and designed to foment EU anti- American sentiment, placing American lives at risk across the globe and specifically in that region.
Am I missing something in the analysis here?
This all seems hypocritical.
I find it highly questionable that an outsider without a security clearance was able to listen in what is clearly a highly classified discussion. It is further incredible that anyone outside this esteemed group of inner circle Trump cabinet members would not question an “outsider” taking part in these discussions in any form without clear examination and knowledge of that individual. Goldberg simply does not pass the smell test. If one posits he had access to this conversation, highly doubtful, given his lack of a security clearance the following questions come to mind:
1-Who included him (if this is possible).
2-How was it cleared (if it was)
3-Why was a clearly highly secret discussion carried out in this fashion?
4-How likely is this a set up by a leaker?
5-What are the possibilities that the FBI, Secret Service, or WH staff were involved in organizing this leak/incident?
6-Goldberg knew this was classified and had no right to hear or document this under penalty of law. So why did he do what he did?
7-Why isn’t he being prosecuted for the willful misuse of classified information?
8-Why haven’t the Demonrats made an issue of why there was a leak?
This is clearly a funded and organized operation by the Soros-anti Amerrica network.
Not really buying it. Don’t know anything about Signal, but if it was encrypted, then you need a key. If you have a key, someone determined that you should have access to whatever level of information was allowed to be communicated on that device (no idea if that’s “highly classified”, “lowly classified” or “unclassified”).
If you’re saying Signal is only encrypted during transmission, and no security on the endpoint then that’s incredible insecure and I find it hard to believe any accreditation authority would accredit it to handle classified.
So it was just this one journalist, and him alone, who was “mistakenly” included, right? I don’t presume to know anything about why this occurred, but I sure as hell don’t believe anything that emanates from the media. IF Trump’s people are that incompetent, how likely is it that this Goldberg clown was somehow the only unauthorized person to be included in the so-called chat?
Seems to me this was done deliberately, but if you wanted to embarrass the administration and make them appear inept, wouldn’t it be better to include multiple unauthorized individuals to make your point? Why only one lucky fellow? Goldberg should go buy a lottery ticket posthaste!
Another media scam blown out of proportion, or perhaps Trump and his people have a trick up their sleeve. Yet here we are, commenting and drawing conclusions within the first 24 hours of the event.
Let’s do some wondering. Jeffrey Goldberg had at one time and may still hold Israeli citizenship. He went to Israel during his college years and served in the IDF as a prison guard at Kzi’ot Prison. He writes for The Atlantic, but has also published articles for the Jerusalem Post, NY Times, The New Yorker. So we know where his politics stand, but we don’t know the extent.
In 2010 he wrote, “I have come to believe that the administration knows it is a near-certainty that Israel will act against Iran soon if nothing or no one else stops the nuclear program….”
Is Goldberg a Mossad/CIA asset? Working with Israel to push the US into a war with Iran? Who was the Waltz staffer who had Jeff Goldberg in his contacts list? Was he also a Mossad/CIA asset?
Wow! That is staggering info.
Imagine if the journalist was a Chinese citizen, who’d been in the PLA, listening in on a conversation about Taiwan.
Or a Russian citizen who’d been in the Russian army, listening in on a conversation about Ukraine.
Fwiw….
To avoid distorting my own perceptions and analysis, I’m currently trying out a framing that includes the “parent” who birthed the other two.
In other words, MI6/Mossad/CIA
Britain First. /s
💥 💥 😳 😳 😳 😳 💥 💥 💥
Great points.
Who is Jeffrey Goldberg?
CIA, UK /MI and Mossad…joined at the hip.
After the recent Britain-and possible MI…
connection with the college Pro Palestine
protester and the arrest-deportation deal.
Notice how fast that story dropped when
a connection was questioned?🤔🤔
Goldberg and possible Mossad connections……
🔔 🛎️
Would be a two-fer in this case..
The shipping lanes affect Europe…Not US
Israel gets us 🇺🇸involved more in the Middle East…
Possibly leading to conflict with Iran.
😡 😖 🥴 Tired of 🇺🇸🇺🇸fighting Proxy Wars for
others.
Exactly what was discussed by Trump Officials on Meet the Press and Face the Nation every Sunday…
“What was discussed and further shared and outlined by Breitbart News [SEE HERE] is a conversation about the strategic reasoning for the U.S. to directly attack the Houthi rebels in Yemen and reopen the sea lanes into and out of the Suez Canal.”
Nothing more!
Maybe it’s just a canary trap.
“a canary trap”
a barium meal canary trap, perchance?
Derp state dupers getting duped again
and starting to realize it
while we, and Team PDJT,, get to watch their reactions?
Bottom line, trolling aka psyching these psychos, is so deliciously fun, instructive and ultimately time release dextructive that I wasn’t surprised at all when PDJT began to tell his MAGA Rally attendees, “we like to do a little trolling”.
In fact, instead of surprise, my reaction to his rally revealation was a heart felt ” thank God”.
It once again proves that not matter how many times the very fake news, apoplectic, hsyterical, drive by media lies, the “outrage right” will always believe them over anything President Trump or his team says or does.
Waltz put him on there or a staffer accidentally added him???
This was an unclassified conversation. No one on that Signal text would even consider having a classified conversation on that app. These people are trained and briefed on security procedures. Any classified discussion would be held in SCIF on secure communication devices. Like President Trump said today, he would prefer that all discussions be held in a room lined with lead. I have a feeling the Signal app is history.
No, you don’t need to be in a SCIF to communicate on a secured system. BITD I had a STU III in my office and the crypto (physical) key for it was in my safe. Took it out and at the proper time inserted and turned the key to initiate the handshake with the other end.
In the time before the STU we had AUTOSEVOCOM which was a PITA as that didn’t have a little key so had to be kept in a room that could be secured (but way less than a SCIF).
Ought to be interesting to see if Laura Loomer exposes Waltz’ staffer with ties to some organization or to ‘the wife’.
“I also find it very interesting that former Senate Intel Committee Chairman, now Secretary of State Marco Rubio is included in the Signal app chat group as reported, but there are no remarks from him within it.”
Hmm, indeed. Think he really wasn’t in the talk or that the media are selective omitting him from the reporting?
I’m open to considering that this was some Op on behalf of the good guys although it seems improbable.
If it was deliberate on behalf of the good guys, the benefits would have to exceed the team having to repeatedly field the following type of question:
Are you considering inviting Mary McCord and Valerie Jarrett to observe the next high level discussion where war decisions/actions are discussed?
Marco Rubio must have known there was a set up in play so he was a no show. He was on the Senate Intel committee. He was one of the members on the call, but he did not check in.
“I also find it very interesting that former Senate Intel Committee Chairman, now Secretary of State Marco Rubio is included in the Signal app chat group as reported, but there are no remarks from him within it.”