President Trump announced the next generation fighter jet, the F-47 that has been developed and conducting classified test flights for the past 5 years.
Against a backdrop where both France and the U.K are attempting to leverage the anti-Trump NATO alignment within the EU to purchase non-U.S. fighter jets, the F-47 announcement by President Trump is a fastball around the ears of Macron and Starmer. The timing is not coincidental.
At 13:35 of the video below, the question and answers with the media begin. The first question was “who killed JFK?”
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F-45/47 would be a good designation.
I just watched two military aviation videos on youtube and the commentors are freaking out about the 47 designation. I didn’t have the heart to tell then the current designation is FX-47, as in the X being Musk! ha ha
The F-47. Wow.
During WW2, the Republic P-47 Thunderbolt was a big, powerful, capable fighter aircraft.
Very fast, lots of firepower, carried rockets/bombs, good as a fighter, good for ground attack.
The ‘Jug’ brought a lot of its pilots home – with armor around the pilot.
Heaviest of USAAF fighters.
Built in more numbers.
Interesting that the
F-47 has been in development for over 5 years – which means it was most likely started/promoted in DJT’s first administration.
Thank goodness fjb didn’t cancel it (I guess the autopen was down for maintenance)
I would guess (and that’s all it is, a guess) that besides blazing speed (did the President actually say, 2? As in 2000 mph?)
… the F-47 will command/direct a fleet of drone aircraft that will possess somewhat similar attributes.
If it is incredibly fast and incredibly stealthy, And is accompanied by capable drones…
I can’t even imagine how that changes the airspace battle.
Hopefully Chyna hasn’t been able to get ALL the blueprints for the plane (or at least have trouble duplicating the results)
The Soviet Union had a crash program to reverse-engineer 4
B-29s that were forced to land in USSR territory before the Soviets declared war on Japan.
Russia had NOTHING like the Superfortress.
The B-29 program cost more than the Manhattan Project.
It advanced aeronautics on every front.
Its central fire-control system was an electronic analog computer.
Flush-riveted, pressurized, great range and speed.
Stalin put the fear of death (real death) into his aircraft designers.
By the summer of 1947, the Soviets flew their carbon/copy B-29 (the TU-4 ‘Bull’) at an international air show.
An aircraft that took the best efforts and greatest effort of the United States to create,
The Russians were able to exactly copy in about 2 years. An aircraft that – on their own – might have taken 10 years to build.
As with the exact-copy plutonium bomb… these 2 carbon-copy efforts gave the Soviets a credible strategic threat by the early 1950’s.
Along with the nonsensical British Labor government’s
‘gift’ of a Rolls-Royce Nene jet engine which powered the MiG-15),
These events allowed The Soviets the ability to create real concern to create real concern in the West – the US must make certain that
The same mistake does not happen
against theWest.
Edit last paragraph:
“To create real concern in the West – the US must make certain that the same dam 🦫 mistake does not happen again.”
(Fat fingers strike again)
I believe the “2” that Trump was referring to was Mach 2, which is 1,534 mph.
He says Joes Otto-pen DID cancel it,and he reinstated it, I think.
And “2” could mean mach 2,?
Wouldn’t make much sense to give it a fleet of drones, if they couldn’t keep up.
Actually, as I understand it the factor preventing hypersonic warplanes is the physical limitations of the pilots; humans can’t handle the G’s, so the drones may be able to go hypersonic?
Definetely some next level stuff…
And, thsnks for the aeronautic history lesson.
I confess, at first I didn’t get the significance of designating it “47” and why he was pointing out that the Generals picked the designation..
Next up: – The next Ford-class… – ‘USS Donald J Trump’ has a nice ring to it, don’t it?…
F-46 everyone called FJB
F-upped is what everyone agreed President Otto Penn was, hence FJB.
“Who killed JFK”
PDJT- Well Peter (Doocy) that’s an excellent question, but it’s a bit complicated.
Johnson.
GHWB
It seems they still don’t really know. The waters have been so muddied there’s still no clear answer, but all involved are gone.
That’s because the answer is not a ‘who’. Do you want to know the name of the actual sniper that made the kill shot from the grassy knoll? Or instead the organization(s) and people involved in the planning behind the event? That’s why it’s complicated.
Exactly, and you don’t suppose its intentionally muddied up, in order to insure we will never know?
Not Lee Oswald.
I remember my first sighting of the F-117 Stealth Fighter, the Wobblin Goblin, coming up to the wing tips of my tanker on our way to war, awesome, but odd and inelegant.
The F-47 is freaking gorgeous, and I can’t wait to see one in person!
I need a six-foot model of that, I got just the spot for it!!
😍 😍 😍
Boeing!!
My beloved KC-135Q’s were Boeings.
Sweet!!
In excess of Mach Two.
I helped feed fuel to the SR71, a Mach 3.5+, as high as they would ever acknowledge, and those willing to talk off the record out of school said it could exceed that considerably, but would not state a number.
The pilots acknowledged they never deviated from their course when being fired at by missiles. They just pushed the throttles forward more to go faster.
One pilot was once told to not advance the throttle.
Tank fuel pumps stopped working, only the engine pumps were working, limping home, told that raising the engine speed might suck hard enough, without any pushing from the tank pumps, that the lines might collapse, essentially a vacuum force; don’t touch the throttles.
Approaching the runway, he did touch them, the lines collapsed, the plane fell out of the sky, and he was a civilian before nightfall.
He lost his touch, so to speak.😂
No planes were ever lost due to enemy fire, only pilot error or technical malfunctions.
Thats what PDJT does also.🇱🇷
I was lucky enough to see an SR71 take off from Beale AFB … sights and sounds that I will NEVER forget!
We has a couple come into Takhli AFB in Thailand. Awesome sight. Landed and taxied into a hanger…doors shut…
A close friend of mine was an AF aircraft mechanic and a stealth bomber had a bird strike, had to land at, IIRC Desert Palms with a cracked windshield .
Put in a hanger, guards posted all around, he and his crew were flown in to replace the windshield, as was a replacement windshield. They had a special scaffolding assembled, so they could work from the outside, without climbing on the plane.
Only those on base with sufficient security clearance and rank could get into the hanger to watch.
They removed the rivets and the old, cracked windshield and lifted the new windshield, with its holes every couple of inches, all around the perimeter, up and into the opening, and it fell through, appearing too small.
Following the manual, they started in the middle, top and bottom with a rivet, to hold it in place. Then went one hole to left and right, and the hole ALMOST lined up, close enough they could work the rivet in. As you loomked at it, the holes got further and fhurther out of alighnment with the holes in the plane.
Point is, as they riveted it into place, they stretched it several inches…and in the end it fit just fine.
I’ve replaced my share of windscreens and canopies.
Stretching one into place was never an option.
Trippy, I love maintenance war stories.
Same here, on the opposite coast, Patrick AFB (SFB) Florida. As I told Maquis, it gave me serious goosebumps.
We saw the SR-71 take off and land almost daily from plant 42 in Palmdale, California back in the 70’s. Would rock our world!! Awesomeness
My connection to the SR-71 was working the imagery it took (several MILES of it over my 25-year career). Did that in Southeast Asia, Omaha, and Germany. Saw an SR land and take off from the runway at Offutt during an airshow. That was amazing!
I just read this comment after posting my first response. I was lucky enough just once to see an SR-71 take off, at Patrick AFB (now SFB), Florida, on its farewell tour. It sounded like she was breaking the sound barrier before the wheels left the ground. Beyond awesome, I got goosebumps.
That’s Kelly Johnson for you… – Guy was not only a demon (in a good way, Treeps) aircraft-designer/builder/aeronautical engineer but also a demon project manager as well (Skunk Works… – nuff said)… – NASA coulda prolly learned a thing or two from him, and they practically wrote the book on project management, from Apollo on…
…- Planes to his credit:…
-Model 9D Orion
-Model 10/12/14 Electra family
-Model18/PV-1 Ventura
-P-38 Lightning (*Seriously Sweet*)
-Lockheed Constellation family (*Pretty Darn Sweet* – Ushered in the modern airliner age, before jet engines were a thing…)
-F-80 Shooting Star (Plus T-33/TV-2 Trainer variants)
-P-2V Neptune ASW patrol aircraft
-XF-90 Penetrator prototype – First Lockheed aircraft to go supersonic
-F-94 Starfire
-X-7 Ramjet testbed
-F-104 Starfighter (Yeah… – *Waaay Sweeet*)
-C-130 Hercules (Nuff said)
-U-2/TR-1 family reconnaisance aircraft (Heckin’ *Sweeeeet* – See CIA Project ‘OXCART’)
-A-12/SR-71 family reconnaisance aircraft (Hella *Sweeeeeeet* – See: CIA Project ‘AQUATONE’)
…- And, oh yeah:…
-F-117 Nighthawk stealth fighter (Ummm… – *Sweetish*)
…- Guy was basically an aeronautics witch… – Personally I like to imagine him up there in heaven, looking down on the F-Turdy Five and just shaking his head amidst gut-busting peels of uncontrollable laughter…
Fun fact: – The U2’s very first flight was entirely unscheduled and happened during one of the prototype’s initial taxi-trials 😀 …
It’s very difficult to keep them on the ground.
When they re-engined then while I was on a remote tour they developed a problem, they couldn’t slow down enough to land, and were circling around and around making the attempt, with a plane notoriously difficult to land.
By the time I got back they had spent millions in vain on fixes, and were set to attempt the same fix a third time . . .
I got out the blueprints, found the errors, which were numerous, and embarrassingly elementary, violating control rigging principles left and right.
I designed and built a tool that fixed all that, but then politics got involved . . .
I never saw a penny for that, in the end, but they stopped losing birds over that throttle problem after I moved on to saner programs, leaving them to figure out how to adopt my solution without acknowledging all their errors that necessitated it.
I worked the U-2 for several years and loved the silly thing.
Built several tools for it, the first one after only a week on the bird, forty years after someone else should have thought of it.
It was an odd program, seems the more involved the manufacturer remains in the operation of the project, the poorer the technical manuals and capacity for independent operations.
On the KC-135Q we had massive technical order libraries; on the U-2 we had plenty of books but no where near as comprehensive.
We did, however, have the full size blue prints, we worked of off them regularly, some a dozen feet long, and when stuff got weird we’d have then all over the hangar floor trying to figure out all out, I even added to them and broke some very critical codes.
Good Times.
The F117 was developed during the Carter regime – so it must be ugly 🙂
You must have an enormous mantle.
I have high spot above an archway just begging for an aircraft or a space whale.
Shades of SR-71. Entirely different category of aircraft but 60 years later, still the sexiest ever. This one almost gets there.
hopefully its used against paris, brussels and london
and kiev
Pourquoi?
Now we just need the USS Donald J Trump aircraft carrier to launch these new F-47’s from. The ultimate show of American strength and power! 💥🇺🇸💥🇺🇸💥🇺🇸💥
Or, keep the big guns in the weeds.
An Air Force General who doesn’t embarrass me, nice.
Breaking News:
https://x.com/SteveGuest/status/1903262058105188551
Antony Blinken, Jacob Sullivan, Lisa Monaco, Mark Zaid, Norman Eisen, Letitia James, Alvin Bragg, Andrew Weissmann, Hillary Clinton, Elizabeth Cheney, Kamala Harris, Adam Kinzinger, Fiona Hill, Alexander Vindman, Joseph R. Biden Jr., and any other member of Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s family.
It is about time.
The WH probably waited so as not to appear vindictive to a brainwashed populace; however, this could not have happened to a more deserving group of people for those of us that know the truth and do not pretend
I ROFLMAO at the infuriating embarrassment they must be feeling.
Need to add Victoria Nuland to the list.
Its odd, because PDJT alrrady ordered a # of these peoples security clesrances to be revoked,and Tulsi Gabbard stated they HAD, about 2 weeks ago.
Did someone violate the order, hence the need to reiterate?
I like that he asks reporters who they are with.
That informs his answer, and the viewers as well.
Who is speaking, and why, is essential to understand all utterances.
Ask the question like japardy.
That is give the answer, require spokesperson to reply with a question.
Like yoda talk.
😏
Yes. Very true.
I would have thought the next generation fighter jet would have no onboard human pilots.
Y’all thought wrong it seems.
There is speculation in the military aviation community that the human will be more of a mission specialist/weapons specialist than a pilot. It’s ridiculously easy to get rid of the pilot. Navy carrier aircraft have hands off landing capability already as do commercial aircraft.
But a fighter aircraft… much more to do that land or take off, and I think the adrenaline rush from actually being there would be hypercritical toward “best use”.
They did say this new platform will have the capability to be accompanied by its own compliment of drones.
Or tom cruise AI.👀👍😉
“Swarm” of drones.
$200 mil a pop though!
Real cost is probably $50 million each.
A true wonder weapon.
It is estimated that each fighter will cost well over $1 billion over its lifetime, and have a procurement cost of close to $400 million. The affordability of this remains in question.
https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/boeing-selected-develop-f47-sixth-generation-fighter-turning-point
F-47 fighter jet will be ‘generational leap of capability’: Retired Air Force general | The Hill
Gotta try to keep up with Chy-Naaa
https://bulgarianmilitary.com/2024/12/26/breaking-chinas-6th-gen-stealth-fighter-takes-first-flight/
Looks like a lot of smoke and mirrors to me.
The F35 started off as the F28 as well and it still has problems, so maybe he should have subtracted 7 from it and started at F40?
It will be the F47 when it lifts off.
Nice fireside chat with The President.
The crazy left are already going apetish about this
48 announces 47. 🇱🇷
boeing being rescued financially. not necessarily against this, but Boeing needs to realize that failure is not an option.
also: realistically, you should expect the f47 to be ready for operational task (reality) in no fewer than 6 years, probably more.
some background: Lockheed Martin will likely file a dispute about this contract award. it remains open what decisions GAO actually makes about this contract award.
this will be the very first “clean sheet” fighter contract ever awarded to Boeing. (the F15 was actually designed by mcdonnell Douglas (Boeing merged with MD and carried the F15 to production and then into operational status…that was 1997).
there are going to be a lot of questions about how much political lobbying and how this contract was awarded.
I am personally not impressed with the specs of the f47. The first thing that I noticed is the price tag: 20 Billion. There is just no way that a 6th gen fighter could be manufactured for such a low number as this. So that right away, makes me suspicious about how this contract was determined. There are no new novel technologies and sensors on this platform. Performance and stealth profiles are essentially the same as both f22 and G35. In fact, it would likely be unable to have the load capacity of either, making me curious just exactly what role this aircraft is expected to fill. The size of the aircraft also gives away it’s endurance, which will be limited below the two fighters mentioned above. perhaps this aircraft design has higher quality and reproducibility cost factors. I think that is the problem with the two fighters mentioned above. The two are cost prohibitive to fly and maintain and the military has a difficult time keeping parts in the supply chain…perhaps this new aircraft uses materials and technologies and manufacturing processes that are more “open source”. But there is also the possibility that this aircraft is much more difficult to manufacture and maintain. Just looking at the form and shape and the first question:
can it launch and land on carrier?
if not, why not. 6th gen fighters need to have littoral engagement. I would also want to know how this aircraft will deploy along with super drones in an array.
God Bless America
I dunno. I’m not impressed.
You do realize the above photo is an artist rendition. Last I heard no knows exactly what this bird looks like.
Thunderbolt Junior!
@42.35 Scott Ritter runs through the F-35 and says the F-47 has the same issues but worse than the F-35 suffers/suffered from.
https://rumble.com/v6qxs0w-ask-the-inspector-with-scott-ritter-ep.-248-streams-live-on-march-21-at-8-p.html
Ritter doesn’t detail it above, but essentially, the F-35 was a Congressional boondoggle whereby congressional districts got to have parts manufacturing facilities setup in their districts so they could get re-elected. Literally. That’s how Lockheed-Martin got the F-35 program sold to Congress.
Not because it was a particularly effective warfighting machine, but because it was a re-election project that would see local congress critters through to retirement on the taxpayer dime.
The F-47 is of course going to turn out to be the same thing. According to Ritter, it’s already on that trajectory. And why wouldn’t it be. It worked so well, with the F-35.
Didn’t it.
Wake TF up, MAGA. Unless and until you people jump on things like this F-47 notwithstanding Trump is giving it the green light, it’s gonna turn to sh*t, unless YOU, yes, YOU, turn the spotlight on it, and YES, this means calling both Hegseth and Trump out, if what Ritter says pans out to be correct.
Do any of you have the guts to do that?
Of course, happy to be wrong. Show me the flying F-47 prototype, not an X plane testing some component of it, the whole plane.
Let’s see.
I hate to ask but it must be asked. Do we at this point have the ability to develop and manufacture a 6th gen fighter with the expected 6th gen capabilities? The F35 situation is not encouraging. At this time is a latest generation manned fighter worth the resources to produce it? Many experts I have read declare that the era of manned fighters is fast coming to an end.
Is this project just another financialization scheme of the MIC to extract money and produce a product that never lives up to expectations? Will the end result be to just line the pockets of all involved to include the politicians while never really increasing capability? The other thing we must consider is that the Chinese have probably already stolen the specs for this aircraft.
I must admit the artist rendering does look awesome.
China is already way ahead in the 6th gen race.
https://www.twz.com/air/chinas-j-36-heavy-stealth-fighter-seen-flying-for-second-time
Is it gold?
I saw many many take offs and landings while stationed at Kadena AB, Okinawa 83-88. It was called the Habu there (a poison snake in Okinawa) I worked for a navigator for the Habu. Heard many stories. There were 3 Habus stationed there, 2 two seaters and 1 one seater. Much more I could say but don’t want to bore the reader
I’m talking about the SR71
You can’t bore me with airplanes, especially military.
I spent a lovely TDY at Kadena supporting three SR71 with KC-135Qs.
Beautiful place.
I’m perplexed at why they chose Boeing after all the recent quality control problems they’ve had.
And leaving their astronauts stranded in ISS? Because Boeing’s Starliner failed and they could not return to earth.
I guess it flew ok. It Just leaked real bad.
Its a good thing they don’t build boats 🙂
Boeing commercial aircraft doesn’t have much to do with the old McDonnell-Douglas side (F-15/F-18).
The software programming for the F35 is not complete! I bet the world is terrified.
F-47 = FAFO 515loupe.wordpress.com/
I love how he says that he will pay the 2 astronauts for their wages while being trapped in space. They were only getting $5 per diem for those hundreds of days.
PDJT said that no one had told him about that and he will pay them out of his own pocket if need be.
@35 minutes.
Reading the comments from all the fly boys.. Gee I really like the Blue Angel practices sessions outta Pensacola.. That my friends is a close as I’ll ever come to that kind of speed.. As many times we’ve seen the show I never got the direction they appeared from.. Love it just the same
Is such an aircraft affordable by EU nations? WithOUT America having to give them away for a penny on the dollar, that is? Stealth tech does not come cheap.
Boeing? You mean the woke company whose commercial aircraft are crashing. (like its stock) The company whose Starliner left astronauts stranded in space? Again, Boeing? Are we crazy? Sorry, another overbudget cash cow for Boeing on the backs of the taxpayers. If Elon was building it, yeah, I’d be excited.