Laying the groundwork for uncomfortable discussions is never easy. However, sometimes the best approach is to cite examples and then expand. Here’s two factual examples.
♦ EXAMPLE FACT #1 – In December 2017, House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes asked the White House, specifically President Trump, to declassify the “Nunes Memo.” President Trump did not declassify the memo because President Trump was told by the concentric lawyers within the office that he should not. So, he didn’t.
[We eventually did see the memo, albeit with negotiated redactions, because Nunes (and Kash Patel) played by the Silo rules and entered a period of negotiations with the Intelligence Community. Nunes leveraged reauthorization of FISA-702 authority, predicated on declassifying his memo. We The People subsequently saw the memo, but we were screwed by the FISA reauthorization.]
♦ EXAMPLE FACT #2 – In January 2020, as he exited the White House, President Trump, using his office, played by the Silo rules and asked for the Russiagate documents to be made public. They never were.
This is such a great example of “Truth Management.”
Y’all are probably familiar with this declassification letter written by Mark Meadows. But what you didn’t see before is how it was designed to fail.
This approach is following the DC rules of the Intelligence Community (IC) Silos.
Mark Meadows, a Truth Manager, intentionally – with purpose and intent – followed this approach because he knew it would fail.
Meadows didn’t make a mistake; he was not mistaken in his approach; he didn’t make an error. This is purposeful.
In January 2020, breathing a sigh of relief, the people around President Donald Trump, were managing his exit and defending the system as they exited power.
They requested the IC Silos to release information, knowing full well the information would never be released.
The only way this information would be guaranteed to be released to the public, is if President Trump took those file boxes personally into the Brady Room, and using his full plenary power and authority, gave them to the media and said, “I hereby designate under my official act power, that this information is of priority to the American people.”…. and literally handed it to the media.
Giving the information to the Silo operators and saying please release this; a process that follows the rules of the IC system that is designed to protect itself; only ensures it will never reach sunlight.
Meadows and everyone else around this moment, knew this to be true. They knew this would fail.
Understanding these two examples is the first step in understanding how the DC Silo system works.
♦ In research projects about detailed granular events attached to corruption in Washington DC, eventually you reach a point where you have identified the specific people involved.
That’s when things get sketchy.
When doing these research projects, you discover that certain DC “insiders,” media people and current/former silo staff, names most of you know very well, are also aware of the information you are discovering.
The “insiders” are generally positioned in such a manner as most of the information-aware public consider them “Truth Tellers.”
Alternative media now gives the Truth Tellers a larger influence voice. This is where it gets interesting.
When you have nailed down the story with direct, irrefutable evidence against the bad actors, you start to notice a pattern emerge about how the Truth Teller media types consistently stay away from certain names.
If you do this long enough, and find the same outcome frequently enough, you realize most of these “Truth Tellers” are not that at all; they are, instead, Truth Managers.
The DC Truth Managers are willfully blind to the activity of certain people they have identified as what can only be reasonably assumed to be CIA operators.
Having spent thousands of hours on this subject, no other reasonable explanation make sense. There are bad actors in DC that I can only believe are “CIA operators.” Why? Because earnestly after years of doing this, I cannot think of any other reason why they would be protected.
Why is CIA operative Nellie Ohr openly discussed, yet the stronger and more important name, Mary McCord, purposefully avoided. I have reached the conclusion that Mary McCord is factually a CIA operator. Nothing else makes sense.
♦ Be careful about assigning the label “Truth Teller” toward any alternative media DC insider who is a “reformed journalist” or “former staff member” of the machine.
There are well known voices from inside the system, that exit the corporate media world, and enter the alternative media world, only to carry on the same purpose.
I see the information managers frequently now and identify them easily by who they *do not* talk about.
Truth Tellers have no vested financial interest in the information, or control thereof; Truth Managers always do.
When a current or former information manager comes across a story of corruption that involves a “CIA designated bad actor,” they never discuss that person in their information reveal. They continue the protection.
A good rule of thumb is never to think of anyone from inside the DC information system, regardless of their disposition, as a Truth Teller.
Every Information Manager was matriculated, and are compromised, by the system around them that is entirely based on corrupt activity.
Hang around a one-legged tribe long enough, and inherently you begin limping.
• Truth Teller Examples: Patel Durov, Glenn Greenwald, Edward Snowden and Matt Taibbi. Pavel Durov (arrested in France) now lives in Dubai. Glenn Greenwald now lives in Brazil. Edward Snowden now lives in Russia.
• Truth Manager Examples: John Solomon, Sean Hannity, Sara Carter, Catherine Herridge, Steve Bannon, Kash Patel, Glenn Beck, Jack Posobiec, Charlie Kirk, Ben Shapiro, Mark Levin and the entire Fox News lineup. There are many more, but the financial aspect runs consistent.
Wikileaks founder Julian Assange had to agree to stop being a Truth Teller and become a Truth Manager in order to be released from prison. As he readily admits, part of the agreement was to give the Western Intelligence Community first right of review for any information WikiLeaks would release. This shifts Julian Assange from Truth telling to Truth managing. In this unique case, I don’t fault him a bit.
♦ In our larger discussion of information, how does Information Management surface:
Let me give you a great example using this video shared yesterday.
Listen carefully to what Kash Patel says at the 01:23 moment about the “Russiagate report” that was written, and how the “ICA” (Intelligence Community Assessment) was constructed with fraudulent information from the CIA.
As Patel notes, “Gina buried it.” That’s Gina Haspel, the Trump CIA Director who replaced Mike Pompeo.
Do you guys even understand how amazing this Kash appointment is?!
Let me remind you pic.twitter.com/nLo4aIFuDF
— Defender of the Republic 🇺🇸 (@realdefender45) December 1, 2024
Now, you might think that Patel is a Truth Teller in this segment but stand back and think about it with fresh eyes, non-pretending eyes.
Patel knows, because he (with others) created a report that highlights a fraudulent CIA operation. A report that was absorbed by the CIA and buried.
Put another way, Patel is talking about a body that he knows is buried. Ergo, people might say, “Patel knows where the body is buried,” right?
But ask yourself, with the known stakes to the nation as an outcome of horrific fraud, why didn’t this self-identified “#2 in the Intelligence Community” bring this information forward regardless of outcome?
Is Patel a “Truth Teller,” or is he a “Truth Manager,” obeying the Silo rules out of self-interest?
New Eyes – Use them.
What is the difference between Edward Snowden and Kash Patel?
One is a Truth Teller the other is a “buy my books” Truth Manager.
Of course, Kash Patel defenders will justify by saying he was just waiting to release the information he alluded to, until he was in a better position. So, his plan to reveal the truth was to: (1) hope Trump won the election, (2) hope he would be appointed to an administration position, and then (3) hope to be able to reach into the CIA silo and somehow retrieve his work product. Please. Just stop.
As a “confirmed”, not “acting” FBI Director, Kash Patel *could* declassify information or documents that is the exclusive equity of the FBI Silo, but only the FBI Silo.
If there was a joint silo operation, he cannot.
If the information was from a source outside the FBI silo, he cannot.
If the information is not 100% exclusive to the FBI silo, he cannot.
Modify your outlook accordingly.
♦ The “continuing central power” that Patel talks about already exists.
This is part of the problem with people who come from inside the system; and it is a problem for those who cannot spend thousands of hours understanding it.
The IC Silo rules, are followed by people who matriculate surrounded by the IC Silo rules.
The “central power” needed to fracture the system is the physical person of the President of the United States.
The President is, well, Snowden-proof. The President, not the office, the actual physical person, is the power of the system. The epicenter of the system where the atom splits, is the physical President.
Acting in his “official duty,” the President of the United States can take a document (any document) and walk into the Brady Room, hand it to a journalist and that document is automatically declassified.
He doesn’t need a stamp on it. He doesn’t need anyone else’s approval or permission. He, the physical person, the President, can simply say, “I view this in my official capacity as President of the United States to be a vital interest to the American public,” and hand it to anyone he chooses. That’s the central power.
Knowing this, knowing the factual reality of it, is exactly why the concentric circles around the President, intentionally and forcefully stop him from doing it. The silo system self-protects.
If it can be done this way, then why wasn’t it done this way?
Kash Patel, Devin Nunes, Ric Grenell, John Ratcliffe etcetera. all know this to be true. So why wasn’t it done?
Go ask Edward Snowden.
♦ Impeachment is the political backstop that protects the IC Silo business model.
Impeachment origins are amorphous by definition.
Declassify something the IC Silo operators don’t like, and it’s a national security breach worthy of impeachment.
These are the warnings to President Trump built into the Silo rules. This is why the White House Counsel is so important. This is why the Nunes Memo was never declassified. This is why President Trump relied on Mark Meadows, which ultimately culminated in an FBI retrieval operation in Mar-a-Lago.
See the political backstop?
Wait, are you saying there’s no point in declassifying then?
No. Exactly the opposite.
Strike now. The House is still in GOP hands.
Force the Legislative Branch to impeach President Trump in the first year as the only way to stop him.
Draw out the enemy. However, don’t YOU be so naïve that you do not take the time to understand exactly, in granular detail, what will be needed to do the actual declassifying.
If the Legislative Branch prioritizes retention of the system and takes down Trump via impeachment, JD Vance has to be willing to continue it… And so on, and so on…


https://www.racket.news/p/note-on-the-fbi
IIRC, James Comey was using an NYU professor as a NY Times leader.
Maybe, PDJT finds himself a leaker?
Alternatively, I thought the DNI (Tulsi) has the ability to dip into multiple silos and coalesce info into a comprehensive assessment? In that case, Tulsi would be the critical linchpin to evaluate.
Great invaluable insight. Thanks for the media revelations, too.
Edward Snowden. This is where i continue to have questions about his ‘truth telling’. It is common knowledge that there was an ‘intelligence war’ between the CIA and NSA with regard to which would be the most powerful. Snowden was originally with the CIA, and then went over to the NSA and became an NSA ‘whistleblower’. Theory indicates that this was purposefully done, in order to turn attention to NSA practices and reduce their power. If so, then Snowden was a purposeful CIA plant in the NSA.
To support this ‘theory’ it is interesting then to note that Snowden ‘fled’ the US, unimpeded in every part of his flight, the airports he went through, etc. He was obviously easy to find….Glenn Greenwald interviewed him in Hong Kong, before he ever gained entry to Russia. HOW was that possible, if the NSA was now looking to detain him? It is only possible if he was continually protected by the CIA until he eventually landed in Russia. I’m willing to hear alternatives to this information, but until I do, I do not find Edward Snowden as a ‘truth teller’, but rather a CIA operative.
By the way, I’d love to see a response to the above (from Sundance??) but whenever I press the bell to show responses, I NEVER get an alert…..????
Wait.
do not even have a bell on my end so I don’t even know what kind of subscription I have lol. I have a box that says send emails to replies to comments so should I just do that? I don’t even know how I am subscribed
The alert button just sends you an e-mail, which then requires you to click and accept that you want to receive alerts. After you click/agree, you’ll get an e-mail everytime someone replies (magic).
I have had suspicions on Snowden as well.. it’s very difficult to trust any one..
The only thing that we can all surely believe/trust is the fact that the “National security” establishment is a complete mockery of justice and an abomination that may be irredeemably corrupt
Glenn Greenwald has done extensive interviews regarding the interaction between he and Snowden.
I’d recommend hearing it from the horses mouth that risked his life in bringing the Snowden story forward.
I’m not refuting you. Only suggesting where you can find answers
I find that Glen would be under the category of TM when it comes to the vaccine.
I don’t know about that. He doesn’t really speak on the subject either way.
His area of interest is in the captured media and corruption in the intelligence community.
His work there is stellar so I don’t give a crap about his views on the vax.
The book “The Puzzle Palace” from the 1980’s revealed how the USA could spy on American’s via UK, ect. Not sure if it was called 5 eyes back then. So some of what Snowden revealed was already know — just not all the advanced NSA spying tools.
Agree with other posters over the last few days that Snowden was a “Truth Manager” back in 2013. Maybe not now thou.
Legacy of Ashes is another CIA-hit book.
Truth is a commodity used to control and manipulate. Once it’s revealed, this value of truth may be expended unless the public can be persuaded to accept a substitute (lie). Truth managers may protect the truth to either protect people or preserve its value to control others. Revealing truth risks negatively impacting its value to apply leverage and wield power. The promise to reveal truth about others may be eroded once a person is in a position to apply the leverage of truth to influence outcomes.
Sodom on Potomac is essentially quiet these days… Hmmm… Why?
Would love to know if Sundance would place Tucker in the Truth Manager or Truth Teller bucket.
I’ll bet he’s pegged as #1 in the ‘former corporate media, turned alt-media’ people who feign truth-telling but continue on as Truth Managers that Sundance writes about.
Tucker is a truth manager. All of them are. All.
Only Sundance is a truth teller now, today . . .
A reason that some topics are avoided or filtered is that when you granted access to classified info, you have to sign a NDA. This doc states that you are subject years in prison if you fair to protect the classified info.
People tend to want to avoid prison and think they can make an impact from inside the system.
Like others, I am of the view that Snowden was acting against the NSA on behalf of the CIA.
I agree with Sundance that only declassification by POTUS will work for the most complete declassification. Pragmatic Trump though will likely have some info redacted to protect sources and such. I would be okay with that if it is timely release.
Bottom line…
(1) the snake pit has more snakes in it than anyone can imagine and
(2) the pit(s) is/are deeper than we can imagine.
I agree with Sundance on Cash Patel.
Patel hasn’t run ANYTHING. But at least he isn’t FILTHY MIKE POMPEO or some other Traitor.
As long as Patel does what he’s told, he’ll survive.
The “silo” problem Sundance describes is constructed entirely on the premise that some operations of the federal bureaucracy are none of our business and none of the business of other parts of the federal bureaucracy.
The very first step in addressing this has to be an overhaul of the entire classification system.
I don’t really see how. “Need to know” is always going to be a consideration.
Would guest contributor (Steve Williams) of this 💩 be an example of “truth manager”?
Trump’s California Gains: A Win for Him, but a GOP Loss
FTA –
… ‘an uncomfortable truth: Trump’s national victories don’t automatically translate to success down-ballot in deeply progressive states. Clinging to Trump’s coattails or blaming fraud distracts from the real issues. To compete in California, Republicans must confront uncomfortable realities: The electorate is younger, more diverse, and more progressive than the national average. Latino, Asian, and millennial voters are shaping California’s future, and current GOP messaging is failing to resonate.’…
“To regain relevance, California Republicans must move beyond an over-reliance on Trump and outdated appeals to election integrity.”
*Steve Williams is the Republican nominee who challenged Maxine Waters for California’s 43rd Congressional District in 2024 and is set to challenge her again in 2026.
https://redstate.com/redstate-guest-editorial/2024/12/03/trumps-california-gains-a-win-for-him-but-a-gop-loss-n2182739
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Really!? …Who would take election advice from a man who reaffirms his belief in “fair election” but couldn’t even beat Maxine Waters?
just a rino
Nice short-hand for a “truth manager”. Call someone a RINO. I can see how this all works on both sides.
Seems like many ppl are not good selections – for a 2nd time with POTUS.
In other words, to be a Truth Teller one must advocate all necessary documents (Russia hoax, COVID, J6, Ukraine bribes) must be released w/o IC input; and a Truth Manager is to do the same, but only with IC input – correct?!?
One of the many ways this gets accomplished.
My hair is rising and it’s suddenly much colder.
And I thought that Meadows was a standup guy, boy was I wrong. He is just part of the swamp. I have noticed that he is nowhere near Pres. Trump these days. Good for Trump vetting these people.
Great job as always on this web site. Thank you for ALL the info.
MTG has been warning us all along. Track her path and reactions against her. Tells the entire story.
Two steps forward. One step backwards. Do not lose faith this early in thee journey
We are talking years to undo the past few decades of Democrat take over -starting with teacher union corrupted K-12 cranking out a few generations of now Democrat true believes.
Observe how Russia had to deal with their own generations of Soviet fetal-alcohol damaged young people. How are their moving along inside the current Russian demographics?
“If the people knew what we had done, they would chase us down the street and lynch us.”― George H.W. Bush
I keep thinking of Sundance writing …..
Once you see the strings of the marionette,
the puppet show is never the same!
Thanks Sundance!👍👍
As a result of that sage “advice “ many years ago,
I began looking at everything from a different
perspective.
Trying to look past the smoke and mirrors, look squirrel,
circus and clown show and the narrative control is Not easy.
Happy that all of those truth managers you listed-I don’t listen/watch
any of them, and a couple just hearing their names —my blood pressure
goes up!🤣
Again, thanks Sundance!
Let’s also get into the important issues that no one speaks of.
Chemtrails currently near DIA 17 in the air spraying like crazy. All aircraft with passengers leave no trail. In the spray is Nano Aluminum, Barium, Graphene. They admit to this. Start up companies are in operation as we sit and breath this and it poisons our fields.
Technology being deployed we have no knowledge of first public sighting Roswell NM.
Antarctica Treaty
RNA changes DNA.
UAP 2002 aircraft carrier sighting
Michael Herrera congressional statement witness Black OPS human trafficking. No kidding they know.
The book of revelation and the book of Daniel speak of all this. Stay in the word that you will know the truth.
PS. I am a conspiracy realist the world we live in is both natural and supernatural.
So is PT…who should know now how this works…..is he a Truth Manager? Is he afraid of being impeached? Is Kash afraid of what the CIA could do to him? As I recall ….You told the President how to declassify first go around.
First, and foremost, I want Trump, not Vance, to continue his Presidency for the four years the people elected him to serve.
I have my doubts that the threat of impeachment is the IC’s only bargaining chip keeping him from declassifying the documents the Truth-Managers want kept under wraps.
If Trump acts now to declassify, the undeniable IC influence in the Senate might shift against him, enough to deny him all of his cabinet choices. Like it or not, Trump needs the support of the truth-managers in order to get his people in key positions. If he fails to accomplish this during the first 100 days popularly characterized as a President’s honeymoon period, there is a risk that Trump’s momentum could be stalled at this crucial time.
There’s a reason the truth-tellers like Patel Durov, Glenn Greenwald, Edward Snowden and Matt Taibbi are living in exile under constant threat of imprisonment or assassination…they have access to truth but no access to power!
I’d be more inclined to have Trump go public with the documents in question late in his Presidency, after he’s accomplished his Agenda 47 goals, is becoming a lame duck and doesn’t give a damn if he’s impeached!
Agreed timing is key
So we hate Kash Patel now? I’m out.
Then you are completely missing the point.
Sundance just spelled it out for you, how it all works.
The how. The who. The why.
And you are out?
Alright then, pretend not to know things. See how you feel about it, a year from now. When Kash doesnt do what you think he will do, or what he says he will do.
The system protects itself. Im not quite sure what part you dont understand. Its really quite simple and obvious.
PDJT listened to the Truth Managers and lawyers last time. Much to his own detriment.
If he doesnt declassify a pile of things that we all know is going on, has gone on, and will keep going on. Then you will come to the brick wall that SD just laid out. Then you your cognitive dissonance will smack you in the face.
The people who want things hidden, are not going give the secrets and truth out, unless they are bullied by the guy in the bully pulpit. And then he maybe does try it, they will impeach him, again….
Wake up…holy smokes, its pretty easy to see what the issue is!!
The people who know where the bodys are buried have their own skeletons!
SMH!
I made a comment earlier but in rereading the article I just thought…Sundance maybe these insiders that were working in the “silos” themselves….actually don’t know the head of the snake. They haven’t done the digging that you have. Yes they pride themselves on being a all knowing “insider” but in many cases I have found them to be naive on many issues. Issues that don’t necessarily point to a person but the motivations behind the people. Arrogance seems fitting in many cases.
JMHO .. I think we are dealing with levels of “bubbles” . We often discuss the DC bubble that the politicians live in but are unaware. I watch many of the alternate news “insiders” and sometimes think that they too live in the next level bubble. Can’t see the forest for the trees..comes to mind. Then there are analyst like you who are driven to find the truth…you exist outside the bubbles.
You use Bannon as an example of a insider, a TM. I have watched him since the beginning of war room. He seems very knowlegdable as to how politics is played, but as to the “real” why or who, he is sometimes clueless….mostly as to the why.
I have seen him seek guest like Benz, who has insight into some of those areas and will not hesitate to adjust. He also monitors his audience and if there is consensis about an issue he will dive into it.
Funny he has mentioned wanting you as a guest….that would not be TM… LOL Guess what I am trying to say …there are those that are/were in the political weeds that just don’t have the tenacity to dig that deep and will just stop at the easiest answer that strokes their ego.
Is Mike Benz a Truth Teller or a Truth Manager?!?