Laying the groundwork for uncomfortable discussions is never easy. However, sometimes the best approach is to cite examples and then expand. Here’s two factual examples.
♦ EXAMPLE FACT #1 – In December 2017, House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes asked the White House, specifically President Trump, to declassify the “Nunes Memo.” President Trump did not declassify the memo because President Trump was told by the concentric lawyers within the office that he should not. So, he didn’t.
[We eventually did see the memo, albeit with negotiated redactions, because Nunes (and Kash Patel) played by the Silo rules and entered a period of negotiations with the Intelligence Community. Nunes leveraged reauthorization of FISA-702 authority, predicated on declassifying his memo. We The People subsequently saw the memo, but we were screwed by the FISA reauthorization.]
♦ EXAMPLE FACT #2 – In January 2020, as he exited the White House, President Trump, using his office, played by the Silo rules and asked for the Russiagate documents to be made public. They never were.
This is such a great example of “Truth Management.”
Y’all are probably familiar with this declassification letter written by Mark Meadows. But what you didn’t see before is how it was designed to fail.
This approach is following the DC rules of the Intelligence Community (IC) Silos.
Mark Meadows, a Truth Manager, intentionally – with purpose and intent – followed this approach because he knew it would fail.
Meadows didn’t make a mistake; he was not mistaken in his approach; he didn’t make an error. This is purposeful.
In January 2020, breathing a sigh of relief, the people around President Donald Trump, were managing his exit and defending the system as they exited power.
They requested the IC Silos to release information, knowing full well the information would never be released.
The only way this information would be guaranteed to be released to the public, is if President Trump took those file boxes personally into the Brady Room, and using his full plenary power and authority, gave them to the media and said, “I hereby designate under my official act power, that this information is of priority to the American people.”…. and literally handed it to the media.
Giving the information to the Silo operators and saying please release this; a process that follows the rules of the IC system that is designed to protect itself; only ensures it will never reach sunlight.
Meadows and everyone else around this moment, knew this to be true. They knew this would fail.
Understanding these two examples is the first step in understanding how the DC Silo system works.
♦ In research projects about detailed granular events attached to corruption in Washington DC, eventually you reach a point where you have identified the specific people involved.
That’s when things get sketchy.
When doing these research projects, you discover that certain DC “insiders,” media people and current/former silo staff, names most of you know very well, are also aware of the information you are discovering.
The “insiders” are generally positioned in such a manner as most of the information-aware public consider them “Truth Tellers.”
Alternative media now gives the Truth Tellers a larger influence voice. This is where it gets interesting.
When you have nailed down the story with direct, irrefutable evidence against the bad actors, you start to notice a pattern emerge about how the Truth Teller media types consistently stay away from certain names.
If you do this long enough, and find the same outcome frequently enough, you realize most of these “Truth Tellers” are not that at all; they are, instead, Truth Managers.
The DC Truth Managers are willfully blind to the activity of certain people they have identified as what can only be reasonably assumed to be CIA operators.
Having spent thousands of hours on this subject, no other reasonable explanation make sense. There are bad actors in DC that I can only believe are “CIA operators.” Why? Because earnestly after years of doing this, I cannot think of any other reason why they would be protected.
Why is CIA operative Nellie Ohr openly discussed, yet the stronger and more important name, Mary McCord, purposefully avoided. I have reached the conclusion that Mary McCord is factually a CIA operator. Nothing else makes sense.
♦ Be careful about assigning the label “Truth Teller” toward any alternative media DC insider who is a “reformed journalist” or “former staff member” of the machine.
There are well known voices from inside the system, that exit the corporate media world, and enter the alternative media world, only to carry on the same purpose.
I see the information managers frequently now and identify them easily by who they *do not* talk about.
Truth Tellers have no vested financial interest in the information, or control thereof; Truth Managers always do.
When a current or former information manager comes across a story of corruption that involves a “CIA designated bad actor,” they never discuss that person in their information reveal. They continue the protection.
A good rule of thumb is never to think of anyone from inside the DC information system, regardless of their disposition, as a Truth Teller.
Every Information Manager was matriculated, and are compromised, by the system around them that is entirely based on corrupt activity.
Hang around a one-legged tribe long enough, and inherently you begin limping.
• Truth Teller Examples: Patel Durov, Glenn Greenwald, Edward Snowden and Matt Taibbi. Pavel Durov (arrested in France) now lives in Dubai. Glenn Greenwald now lives in Brazil. Edward Snowden now lives in Russia.
• Truth Manager Examples: John Solomon, Sean Hannity, Sara Carter, Catherine Herridge, Steve Bannon, Kash Patel, Glenn Beck, Jack Posobiec, Charlie Kirk, Ben Shapiro, Mark Levin and the entire Fox News lineup. There are many more, but the financial aspect runs consistent.
Wikileaks founder Julian Assange had to agree to stop being a Truth Teller and become a Truth Manager in order to be released from prison. As he readily admits, part of the agreement was to give the Western Intelligence Community first right of review for any information WikiLeaks would release. This shifts Julian Assange from Truth telling to Truth managing. In this unique case, I don’t fault him a bit.
♦ In our larger discussion of information, how does Information Management surface:
Let me give you a great example using this video shared yesterday.
Listen carefully to what Kash Patel says at the 01:23 moment about the “Russiagate report” that was written, and how the “ICA” (Intelligence Community Assessment) was constructed with fraudulent information from the CIA.
As Patel notes, “Gina buried it.” That’s Gina Haspel, the Trump CIA Director who replaced Mike Pompeo.
Do you guys even understand how amazing this Kash appointment is?!
Let me remind you pic.twitter.com/nLo4aIFuDF
— Defender of the Republic 🇺🇸 (@realdefender45) December 1, 2024
Now, you might think that Patel is a Truth Teller in this segment but stand back and think about it with fresh eyes, non-pretending eyes.
Patel knows, because he (with others) created a report that highlights a fraudulent CIA operation. A report that was absorbed by the CIA and buried.
Put another way, Patel is talking about a body that he knows is buried. Ergo, people might say, “Patel knows where the body is buried,” right?
But ask yourself, with the known stakes to the nation as an outcome of horrific fraud, why didn’t this self-identified “#2 in the Intelligence Community” bring this information forward regardless of outcome?
Is Patel a “Truth Teller,” or is he a “Truth Manager,” obeying the Silo rules out of self-interest?
New Eyes – Use them.
What is the difference between Edward Snowden and Kash Patel?
One is a Truth Teller the other is a “buy my books” Truth Manager.
Of course, Kash Patel defenders will justify by saying he was just waiting to release the information he alluded to, until he was in a better position. So, his plan to reveal the truth was to: (1) hope Trump won the election, (2) hope he would be appointed to an administration position, and then (3) hope to be able to reach into the CIA silo and somehow retrieve his work product. Please. Just stop.
As a “confirmed”, not “acting” FBI Director, Kash Patel *could* declassify information or documents that is the exclusive equity of the FBI Silo, but only the FBI Silo.
If there was a joint silo operation, he cannot.
If the information was from a source outside the FBI silo, he cannot.
If the information is not 100% exclusive to the FBI silo, he cannot.
Modify your outlook accordingly.
♦ The “continuing central power” that Patel talks about already exists.
This is part of the problem with people who come from inside the system; and it is a problem for those who cannot spend thousands of hours understanding it.
The IC Silo rules, are followed by people who matriculate surrounded by the IC Silo rules.
The “central power” needed to fracture the system is the physical person of the President of the United States.
The President is, well, Snowden-proof. The President, not the office, the actual physical person, is the power of the system. The epicenter of the system where the atom splits, is the physical President.
Acting in his “official duty,” the President of the United States can take a document (any document) and walk into the Brady Room, hand it to a journalist and that document is automatically declassified.
He doesn’t need a stamp on it. He doesn’t need anyone else’s approval or permission. He, the physical person, the President, can simply say, “I view this in my official capacity as President of the United States to be a vital interest to the American public,” and hand it to anyone he chooses. That’s the central power.
Knowing this, knowing the factual reality of it, is exactly why the concentric circles around the President, intentionally and forcefully stop him from doing it. The silo system self-protects.
If it can be done this way, then why wasn’t it done this way?
Kash Patel, Devin Nunes, Ric Grenell, John Ratcliffe etcetera. all know this to be true. So why wasn’t it done?
Go ask Edward Snowden.
♦ Impeachment is the political backstop that protects the IC Silo business model.
Impeachment origins are amorphous by definition.
Declassify something the IC Silo operators don’t like, and it’s a national security breach worthy of impeachment.
These are the warnings to President Trump built into the Silo rules. This is why the White House Counsel is so important. This is why the Nunes Memo was never declassified. This is why President Trump relied on Mark Meadows, which ultimately culminated in an FBI retrieval operation in Mar-a-Lago.
See the political backstop?
Wait, are you saying there’s no point in declassifying then?
No. Exactly the opposite.
Strike now. The House is still in GOP hands.
Force the Legislative Branch to impeach President Trump in the first year as the only way to stop him.
Draw out the enemy. However, don’t YOU be so naïve that you do not take the time to understand exactly, in granular detail, what will be needed to do the actual declassifying.
If the Legislative Branch prioritizes retention of the system and takes down Trump via impeachment, JD Vance has to be willing to continue it… And so on, and so on…
Mark Meadows traitor.
I haven’t heard of one person that stated “let’s get good ole Mark back for CoS”.
Maybe the D’s and IC’s did?
So is Pres Trump a truth teller or a truth manager?
Trump is all in. I am wondering about Elon.
PT has a lot of truth managers surrounding him.
PT has an ambitious agenda.
Don’t expect any “revelations”.
Butler, PA answered that question.
Well he surrounds himself with Truth Managers.
The big tell?
The people around PDJT have a titanium wall around him. IE: They dont want Sundance anywhere near PDJT!
What does that tell you?
Hmm…..
Seth Rich. Truth teller.
Deceased Truth Teller.
That pretty much confirms his bona fides. That is why Hunter is pardoned. He does not want push daisies either.
Declassify EVERYTHING!
Let the chips fall where they may….there is only one way this can end…
NO MERCY!
PT can’t do this by himself. He needs truth telling people to have access to documents and information to determine what should be declassified. Not only declassified by given to the public to digest.
“PT can’t do this by himself. He needs truth telling people to have access to documents and information to determine what should be declassified.”
🤔…..🧐
Doesn’t that lead us, once again, onto the snare of “negotiations with the Intelligence Community”?
^^^^^^^^^^^ Again!
Retired USMC: I’m sorry, Dave. I’m afraid I can’t do that.
Funny thing about computers…you can yank their plug…..
Same can be said about personnel…..
NO MERCY!
Everything?
EVERY F’IN THING!
Prepare to be disappointed.
God is the ultimate Truth Exposer.
Two posts in a row where you have used that same exact comment to spread GLOOM and DOOM!
AGAIN!
Bingo
If we are mentally prepared to be disappointed (by men who’ve been intimidated by the corrupt System), then we are elated when someone acts independently and bucks the system.
The old boy scout motto is “be prepared” (for the worst outcome, because the best outcome needs little preparation).
And God definitely is the ultimate truth exposer, whether He uses men proactively or natural processes to eventually uncover what had been hidden….
Perhaps you need to change the perspective of God as doom and gloom.
Aren’t you clever?
😃 😀 😄 😁 🤣 😂
The gloom and doom is “prepare to be disappointed,” and is quite clear and apparent, particularly when you feel the need to post it twice near the top of page 1 on two consecutive posts to ‘influence.’
Your reference to God is to play on emotions, a common manipulative tactic when trying to influence a ‘target audience’ perceived by data analysis to be predominantly Christian.
He he he he he
Sunlight is the best disinfectant and Truth has No Agenda.
😉
Do you have a link to the database where i can run my own data analysis to verify?
Sounds like you skipped the article and went directly to the comments section.
Touche
So Patel is not a wolverine? He’s just an other “awe shucks” rule follower?
No, he will push through reforms. That’s why the media response.
We the People should have a voice in the particulars of those reforms.
Without declassification, we have no voice, because we know not the level of reform ACTUALLY NEEDED!
We know not WHOM needs to be held accountable.
We know not the level of SEVERITY that is required to truncate the monstrous behavior.
To H3ll with letting those who have an interest in dumbing down the TRUTH to a level that saciates We the People, while allowing the activities and persons responsible for said monstrous behavior to simply “keep on keepin on”!
NUKE EM FROM ORBIT!!
ALL OF THEM
President Trump has a binder….
Declassify ALL OF IT
IMMEDIATELY!!!
See the above comment about Seth Rich. Maybe, Kash wants to release information to affect some positive changes and stay alive. I guess it is better to have Kash than Kold Kash.
Or, maybe, I am just spinning myself. Who the hell knows in these endless mirrored mazes. It is Kafkaesque.
I was struggling for the mot juste….thank you.
Kafkaesque it is…but more so.
Deliberately so.
A deep, dark rabbit hole with myriad warrens throughout, each deeper and darker than the one before it. And each set with a snare for anyone who dares to encroach.
Unsettling to contemplate.
PRAY!!!
First port of call.
Will Kash release all the details about the murder of Seth Rich?
Omg we r screwed no way out hence “wilderness of mirrors”
I am actually GLAD to find this out now. In all honesty, I am
Agree; this new (to me) insight becomes a kickplate for this next part of the race of making America great again.
damnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn THis is DEEP STUFF … we’re in a no win situation. Tied up by silos’s and truth managers.
I’m glad I’m in my 70’s…
lol!
😝….Right?…..!
I mean i (we) had front row seats for Bay of Pigs, JFK, Nam,Watergate, 4 dead in OH HI OH….. etc….yet the breadth and depth of todays malfeasance is breathtaking…. POTUS NONCHALANTLY doing an about face and pardoning his #2 ( that could be taken 2 ways….😜😝….but I only meant it ONE way 🤫🤙🏻 💩 )
a “Read my lips” kinda kick in the nutz…….🥴
INDICT THEM ALL…..!
The original American Revolution was a no-win situation, until it wasn’t. We also are in the middle of a long war, but we have made it through some points I didn’t think we could make it through. This is the time to thank God and keep moving forward, and remember America was only an idea, and not a very promising one, on July 4th, 1776. It was 1789 before we had the Constitution.
“• Truth Teller Examples: Patel Durov, Glenn Greenwald, Edward Snowden and Matt Taibbi. “
No Julian Assange ?
“• Truth Manager Examples: John Solomon, Sean Hannity, Sara Carter, Catherine Herridge, Steve Bannon, Kash Patel, Glenn Beck, Jack Posobiec, Charlie Kirk, Ben Shapiro, Mark Levin and the entire Fox News lineup. There are many more, but the financial aspect runs consistent.”
So all these people, who claim to be patriots, whom Donald Trump likely sees as patriots, are actually two-faced scoundrels ?
we actually knew most of those. Kash…well I’m surprised at him. The REST…and BESTIE Laura Ingraham with her “bestie” friends in the IC……….being fed and feeding info to damage POTUS
Obviously, you did not read the citation fully.
It helps to read slowly.
Sundance I did read it slowly and I’m still confused.
Haha.
Screwball comedy.
Wow. Just wow. 🙁
it is a lot to digest. I admit I’ve read it 4 times now and I still have questions on how this can play out for our advantage. I’d love to be told more how it can happen. I admit I’m old, 70 and soon 71 and this swash buckling stuff is somewhat over my head
Normalcy bias and hope are trying to cloud my understanding…..but the underlying belief I have that we are not even close to being out of the woods is breaking through and comprehending the picture.
When Trump won the election it seemed to me that the only thing that had really happened was that we had breached – broken through- the wall our government had erected around us. It was going to take even more efforts to tear down the rest of the wall structure so we could live again in liberty.
This post of yours has been essential – keeping feet on the ground.
I think General Flynn had a good point in saying November 5th was like D-Day on Normandy – the Battle of the Bulge was (is) yet to come. We had to do that in order to win, but it doesn’t mean we have won yet.
Oh man Sundance that’s harsh and mean but you made me laugh.
LOL Same to me, even though I did understand from the beginning. 🙂
Understatement.
He talks extensively about Julian. Keep reading
It’s RIGHT THERE NEXT TO THE PICTURE OF Julian!
Sundance, A question…. How does the DNI fit into this equation? Can’t Tulsi reach in and grab from the silos as a work around?
And if the silo gatekeepers refuse?
Well, I suppose the executive could just fire the refusenik! We have only won a battle and the war goes on!! Trump is the truth teller. Many appointees are tools to accomplish specific tasks. The Bible is full of examples of the righteous winning against horrible odds. How to eat an elephant!! The key to all this is Faith and Prayer!! Praise God!!! Fight! Fight! Fight!
Was a Truth Teller – upon his release from prison – *forced* to be a Truth Manager…
Yes.
When the conflict in Ukraine started, I was still watching Fox News. More than anything else, the controlled pundits were vocally supporting US weapons to Ukraine and Ukraine’s version of events. That took out a whole bunch of them in my mind. They weren’t searching for what was really going on; they were controlled media, just like MSNBC, CNN, CBS, ABC, PBS, and AP.
The people like Douglas McGregor, Larry Johnson and many others took apart what was happening, what were the causes, what was behind the curtain as far as the conflict in Ukraine was concerned. But even these sources are limited as far as what is actually happening in our government.
“Wikileaks founder Julian Assange had to agree to stop being a Truth Teller and become a Truth Manager in order to be released from prison. As he readily admits, part of the agreement was to give the Western Intelligence Community first right of review for any information WikiLeaks would release. This shifts Julian Assange from Truth telling to Truth managing. In this unique case, I don’t fault him a bit.”
You missed this part.
Sundance addressed Assange and his situation.
And claiming Trump “likely sees as Patriots” is speculation at best, word play influence pretending at worst.
If Trump view those annotated by you from the post, then why aren’t any of them in Trump’s inner circle except Kash for the moment??? 👀
It’s RIGHT THERE NEXT TO THE PICTURE OF Julian!
The crooks are always given the opportunity to edit/filter/delete the evidence against them?
So it makes sense. Trumps declassifies and releases the evidence into the public square. The rest will take care of itself.
Anything short of release directly to THE PEOPLE starts yet another endless and fruitless “Process” by those who benefit from the incessant march of time.
Release makes the attempts (by the book) of endless delays irrelevant.
Do not release to the “Media” only (Whatever they “report” will be Truth Management).
Send it all via Truth SOCIAL.
The cards will be face up for all to see.
Take government out of the equation.
TRUST THE PEOPLE to decide what is
BEST FOR THEM!!
That is the ultimate goal of MAGA, is it not.
Returning the Country to
THE PEOPLE!!
“There is a tide in the affairs of men
Which, taken at the flood, leads on to fortune;
Omitted, all the voyage of their life
Is bound in shallows and in miseries.
On such a full sea are we now afloat;
And we must take the current when it serves,
Or lose our ventures.
~ William Shakespeare (Julius Caesar)
Well said and nicely quoted! Hope I can remember that.
Oh man. What if “Send it all via Truth SOCIAL.” is what Trump created Truth Social for?
Soooo. PDJT has got to be the silo crusher and put himself in harms way again and again and again. Sounds to me like he will need to declare a state of emergency and clean some IC clock.
In reality it seems to be the only way to show us, his cabinet/team, other branches of government that treason will be handled as such. No one is above the law. Taking a soft approach and trying to manage this theater of scum ain’t gonna work. Lucy meet CB’s knuckle sandwich. 😛😁
I’m not for violence, just pure old fashioned public shame, removal of any job benefits and jail time that can’t be pardoned. Show um treason won’t be tolerated from day one ie have cases lined up and ready to be presented, while uploading evidence and documents to Truth Social and or X, so they can’t be hidden as part of an investigation. Hopefully Elon won’t suppress names and facts, like when he first got Twitter and had his first op to reveal all he found, but seemed to be very selective.
Nope. WorkforHim, I believe, is correct.
That being said, ALL sorts of moving parts have to be SAFELY taken care of.
They tried to kill us, and have murdered many millions in their long spree.
They intend to murder billions. They fully intend to make all of our children slaves.
In that light, make your choice.
POTUS is the “unitary executive.” POTUS and POTUS alone can cut across every silo in the executive branch. Even the DNI cannot dip into agencies not under the intel umbrella – like State, Justice, HHS, etc.
POTUS and POTUS alone can claim absolute exemption from the Espionage Act. Fear of the Espionage Act is one big reason why people who may have wanted to be “Truth Tellers” ended up playing by the Silo-rules. They would have been charged under the Espionage Act by people from inside the Silo, even if (especially if) there was no legitimate national security risk.
Yes POTUS can be impeached or threatened with impeachment, even for bogus reasons or no reasons at all. But PDJT has already beaten that rap twice already.
It must be Trump. “He alone can fix it.”
but since the SCOTUS said the POTUS is IMMUNE .. how can he be impeached for a Presidential declassification? I’d expect the SCOTUS to step in if they tried to impeach him.
Or am I misunderstanding this? I’ve read it twice now. Does this mean the POTUS cannot just “declassify” anything he wants? Is his hands literally TIED?
Why can Biden get away with so much?
Biden= friend of IC installed by IC used to this day by IC.
Trump= foe of IC, orange man Bad
Trump needs to stomp the bad guys on day one. Fight, Fight, Fight. 😎
Impeachment has nothing to do with illegal behavior.
Thank you. Gosh, I’m sad.
Correct it is political
Then if Trump is true, he will hand it to the media in 2027
Unless he times declassification with treason charges, with the documents and evidence out there just before, like on Day One, they will all get caught up as being part of an investigation and we’ll never see um.
The media…what?
Sundance,
Do you realize that President Trump’s life is in danger if he does this?
I’m afraid for him and his family. Trump is surrounded.
The corruption in DC is too deep.
Until the American people open their eyes and make changes in their state and beyond I’m afraid nothing will be fixed.
The IC is capable of anything.
Okay I admit that I’m scared that the country that I love is going to fall or it already has.
Pray for every American and for Trump and his family.
Yes, they barely missed in Butler. They won’t sit still if he declares war on them.
His life is in just as much danger anyway.
They harm Trump it’s open season. They won’t survive.
Hear, hear. That is OUR red line. And we won’t be able to tell the good from the bad, we can let God sort them out.
Suspect his, and his family’s lives, are all in danger.
Is this why Gaetz dropped out and we’re stuck with Bondi? Was he too willing to expose the DS? Very strange times…
I believe Gaetz thought a full Senate confirmation, such as the one Kavanaugh went through, would do irreparable damage to his future political career while giving Trump’s enemies too much political ammo against his other nominees. Gaetz stepping aside was the correct choice.
If this is the case, Phantom- Bondi is in a world of trouble – this lady has more than one skeleton in her closet.
But see, that means she’s on a tight leash. Compromised means staying in the boss’s good graces.
Where Sundance looks at what they knew but pretended not to, I go by if the Status Quo changes. RFK Jr and Gaetz, not sure what they know or don’t, but whatever causes they take up, the status quo doesn’t seem to change in our favor, or changes so minutely as to not, or actually helps normalize and strengthen the position of what seems to be their enemy, but turns out to be their benefactors ie Big Pharma and the IC respectively.
Thank you SunDance…you’ve opened my eyes to many things. Lately, even more with the truth telling about Pam Bondi and now we are getting the skinny on ole Kash.
Why hasn’t Snowden been “neutralized”?
There is speculation that Snowden has not disclosed all the information he obtained from the NSA. Snowden has stored an online cache of ”highly classified, heavily encrypted material” that will be disclosed in the event of him being captured or physically harmed. Snowden has only disclosed a small portion of the classified information believed to be downloaded and that he keeps the rest of the documents as an ”insurance policy”.
Source: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/275019554
The Consequences of Edward Snowden NSA Related Information Disclosures
There are limits to truth telling…Seth Rich.
Trump could pardon Snowden and Assange, although they might not live long.
I’d love to see Snowden come home. Greatest hero of my generation.
If he did the Russians would torture him to get it.
a) I tend to doubt that speculation. I don’t think he has an insurance policy at this point. Everything was given to the reporters. Far as we know, and he’s said, and all the journo’s involved said, he retained nothing on that flight to moscow. If he did it’s sitting on some remote server somewhere that is only known\stored in his mind… and what like 10 years later now likely where ever it might have been obscurely stored is gone. The only thing that might remain and I’m not up to date on the exact disposition of, are what became of all the docs and stuff that greenwald and crew saw, but chose not to publish.
b) Many in IC still want to take him out, supposedly Pompeo even supported that during trumps 1st term.
c) They probably would if they could or made it a priority, but the reality is he’s not a threat, it would just be a high profile revenge mission and everyone who know who did it, hell he could die of a heart attack tomorrow naturally and nobody would believe it wasn’t natural even if it really was the case. He’s a russian citizen now, that doesn’t leave russia, and while probably not as significant as it was initially (for both his own security and that of the RF) is still quietly watched over by fsb, probably more for his own safety now than theirs at this point.
Agreed. Strategically, now is the time to strike. In 2026, McConnell, Graham and a few other RINO rats are up for reelection. Trump can force them to support him. Or get them primaried.
Ukraine is likely going to collapse next year. There will be scrambling, and blame casting. It’d be a good time to be on the offensive, setting the agenda. Don’t let the rats scurry around in darkness. Shed some light. They want to wait him out, and get back to business. Deny them their strategy.
I like this idea. Trump has beaten them all, miraculously. Climb the next mountain.
I don’t know… maybe your most brilliant article yet.
Poignantly explained for those struggling to understand the situation. Bravo.
Will be interesting to see if the “head” of each “silo” is now more willing to respond to declassification requests, should DNI or PDJT make them.
“John Solomon, Sean Hannity, Sara Carter, Catherine Herridge, Steve Bannon, Kash Patel, Glenn Beck, Jack Posobiec, Charlie Kirk, Ben Shapiro, Mark Levin and the entire Fox News lineup” — interesting: truth management as an ad-selling venue? Worth much analysis, monitoring, and suspicion.
Intriguing that Bannon’s cold open for his 2nd hour today featured MSNBC commentary on Hunter’s pardon, with no less than the sharp physiognomy of one Mary McCord among the talking noggins.
he always does that …plays the stupid lame stream media crap. I stopped watching that show a long time ago.
NOW I know he is just another puppet
Bannon offers an information vector; best to treat him in that context (ponder his and Boris Ephsteyn’s crowing “100 seats for 100 years” about the ’22 House race). Just today, he’s talking to some sheriff when Bannon states that the two Trump nominees catching BY FAR (his emphasis) the most flack in his inbox were the Surgeon General and the DEA head – both jabby. Rumble chat with frequent Bondi! callouts, yet nary a word from American Rasputin. There we go.
Suspicion –🎯
All ad-selling is “truth management.” It always has been. The modern science of advertising and the modern science of propaganda were both invented by the same guy – Edward Bernays.
I’m glad you concluded Mary McCord was CIA.
I’ve believed that since her bio was scrubbed, a tell.
I’m also glad you are reinforcing your position on all of these people. I do think TC needs to be on that list of Truth Managers also.
Well done!
Expect flak, which I’m sure you already do.
I agree. TC never goes deep enough. He’s a manager.
Didn’t he apply for a CIA job or was recruited at one point in his younger days?
He’s got a family and a multi-million dollar career. He’s not ready to risk that now and maybe never.
Re “I do think TC needs to be on that list of Truth Managers also.”
If “TC” refers to Ted Cruz, his attempt to become president even though he HAS to know he’s not Constitutionally eligible due to not being a natural born citizen proves he CANNOT EVER be trusted to hold ANY position of public trust. He is not only a truth manager; he’s also an outright liar!
True and agree, but I was referring to a certain media personality who matches the criteria precisely as described in the post above.
Tucker brings people to the river bank, it’s up to us to bring them over the bridge.
Neither is Zero (SPIT!!!) a natural born citizen.
Ted Cruz isn’t courageous enough to be a Truth Teller. He’s content remaining in the Senate for the rest of his life so he’s not going to rock the boat except toss out a little red meat every now and then to keep appearances up.
Never said he was and I wasn’t referring to Cruz.
The scrub of the J6 video was the tell for TC.
No doubts here they threatened his wife and kids.
another question for SunDance…how does President Trump essentially get that information to physically take it to the Brady room? It’s been proven info was hidden from him, Pompeo and Haspel and OTHERS lied to him …we will never know about how much and what
Does HE himself have the ability to reach into ALL silo’s at COMMAND and demand the info or can he just walk into each organization and start searching …. i.e. some computer savvy kid …. takes him through it?
thanks just catching up
Sundance: Brilliant writing and analysis!
Now, if only more people would stop worshipping official titles and offices, stop giving credence to media narratives, and start thinking for themselves, we might make some progress.
If you want to be saved from the endless nonsense, save yourself.
👋👏👋👏👋
So death by a thousand cuts, or release the hounds.
President Trump does have more legal, communication, and interpersonal support today.
1. The Supreme Court ruling to his Presidential authority is “powerful”. (Does that hold off impeachment?)
2. Communication. Don’t underestimate the added benefit of Twitter (X), Elon Musk, Vivek, and RFK Jr.
3. Likewise and inter-related, he has the support of current-day giants -Musk, Vivek, RFK Jr., Tulsi Gabbard, and more. And some of these individuals have White House aspirations.
I’ll again add – low-hanging fruit and play Offense – can help bring in the support of Joe Sixpack.
Example: the destruction of legal evidence and government property.
How were 27 DOJ Federal smartphones erased by the Mueller (Weismann) witch hunt crew? Indict all 27. Evidence is supposed to be maintained, not destroyed. And isn’t this also prima facia Conspiracy?
STRATEGIC: maybe the Epstein Files are Ultra High Risk, and Medium Reward. Maybe that gets a pass. But axing dozens of FBI officials at DC HQ, reforming the hiring process, and even eliminating whole departments is better. Maybe indicting McCabe, Strzok, and Page is strong and less risky, dovetailed with indicating 27 DOJ attorneys sends a big message. One or two pawns is useless.
Re “Don’t underestimate the added benefit of Twitter (X), Elon Musk, Vivek, and RFK Jr.
Likewise and inter-related, he has the support of current-day giants -Musk, Vivek, RFK Jr., Tulsi Gabbard, and more. And some of these individuals have White House aspirations.”
Sad but true>>> As beneficial as they all may currently be to President Trump, RFK Jr. is the only one of those four who is a natural born citizen and therefore Constitutionally eligible to ever legally SERVE as president…
And an axe to grind with the CIA.
Much better than the Swifties and the NFL!!!
Matt Gaetz? Walked away.
Matt Gaetz was MAGA…
when MAGA wasn’t cool…
Trust God. Fear not.
Better to fight and run away, to live to fight another day.
He’s young. He’s got a beautiful wife and a ridiculously wealthy father.
I wouldn’t blame him for taking some time off from the swamp to enjoy life for a while.
He can always return later.
if the info to be declassified exposes the potential impeachers to prosecution, public ridicule, loss of office, charges of treason, etc., i can see they would strike back with a “bi-partisan” removal from office.
so, if PT declassifies, it has to be on his last day as President?
so meaning he does it exactly via the Brady room … maybe he doesn’t intend to fulfill his 4 year term. Get this stuff out in the open and turn it over to JD????
Do you really TRUST Vance??
Too close to Thiel and his version of globalism.
Vance is the new insurance policy for the globalists’ plans.
I am still very wary of him. I hope he is not another Pence.
Security clearances are the key.
Strip them from those who lied to the American people.
Grant them to the protectors.
Let them curate for 47.
That cuts off their money, influence, and ramps up their TDS.
We truly need to remove the insidious 4th branch. Remove, raze to the ground, destroy so it will never rise again.
And make extreme examples out of those who abused their authority and power.
VERY EXTREME EXAMPLES!!!
Well the one man who can declassify the treason committed is President Donald J Trump. I have no doubt he is gonna hit back 10 times harder than they hit him.
The damn we can’t win trolls are out in force. 4 comments in a row of truth managers, not a backbone in any of them.
The way I see it, is go balls to the walls and light up the whole treason party on both sides of the aisle along with the IC.
I am sure our President understands this completely. He did not go thru hell just to become squishy now.
President Trump has my backing all the way.
Bring on the binder that traitor Meadows sabotaged.
I wonder who has it?
they looked in Melania’s panty drawer didn’t they?
Joe Biden is a known sniffer…….
🤣 😜
lol
PDJT has said,”If you hit me,I’ll hit back harder.” The only thing that might change that would be a danger to his family. He needs lots of protection and prayers regardless of his plans. Can’t imagine the weight on his shoulders…
Declassification is not enough. The Media can and will ignore, hide, distract-from any and all info the Swamp wants hidden.
The real information was available very early in the Covid era. But it was gaslighted away. The Hunter Biden laptop was revealed by the NY Post but still gaslighted away. All the hoaxes and shams of the Trump era were uncovered early but were all gaslighted away.
Trump can get the word out. Elon Musk can help him.
Social media has bypassed the official organs.
It’s the young who use social media, it’s their future at stake here.
That’s where the unstoppable message needs to get out, it will amplify itself.
You are thinking exactly what I have though, many times, and after reading this….
LIGHT THEM ALL UP, LET GOD SORT THEM OUT!!
Its the only way to fight!!
Use Special Forces to protect PDJT and anyone truly on his team. This pussyfooting around is only going to scrape the surface. And it will play out like the last time.
You only get one shot at cleaning up this wretched, stinking, sloppy swampy sewer of BS!!
Just do it, and do it with the sword of God Almighty in PDJT’s hands.
Enough is enough! Its so frustrating!!
Sheesh, I need a good stiff drink!!
So, have Truth Managers seen the stuff we want to see? Or is it similarly hidden from them?
Truth Tellers have a hard task
they have to break out of their chains
they have to get past the Truth Managers without becoming just another Truth Manager (holding a silhouette)
they have to get beyond the fire
then they have to climb to freedom and survive before they ever see sunlight and can even think about telling the tale
Even then, the chained souls will never hear them
The chained were/are ignorant in Plato’s analogy. They would not know how to escape or why they even should. If they were always in that conditon, they know of no other existence.
It must be an outsider who deals with the Managers and Liar. Only then can the cave dwellers be unchained and educated about the real world.
There are more of us (free men) than them (managers) and perhaps that is out job and why we are here now. In this place and time to use our collective strength to overcome this evil.
So the question is: How?
“There are more of us (free men) than them (managers) and perhaps that is out job and why we are here now. In this place and time to use our collective strength to overcome this evil.”
Wow. Wow. That is the tolling bell of religious truth.
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn said it best.
What if….and we know the rest of it.
Sundance is getting warmer. All I will say on this matter is the CIA has operatives layered throughout the Federal government, other intel agencies, national media, and both political parties. Their loyalty above all else is to the Agency and themselves. This is not new and in fact goes back decades and decades.
Some names you’d recognize instantly, others are covertly embedded. Most are placed there for information gathering (think Sundance’s silos), but others take more active roles when long-term plans are threatened.
The FBI once acted as a counter to the CIA’s influence long ago. That is not the case today. The CIA’s public-private partnerships with select corporations gives them vast power.
Layered throughout the corporate world and international politics and media as well.
Good reason to start with the declassification and public release of the JFK files. Most animals on this farm fear the truth. Rip the wound wide open.
Bingo
Getting warmer? Heck no, he’s focused on the most important layer, the generals in the planning room who’ll carry out the operations.
And, the FBI was only fighting a turf battle. They never once uncovered a money laundering or drug smuggling operation of the CIA.
Give him a couple days, a week on the outside/end of January of 1/20/25 and we will know pretty much where we stand.
Notice Trump has been making bold declarative statements lately. He’s going direct to the People FIRST, shortcircuiting all the skulduggery. By design, I’m sure. He removes their hidden advantage, their prescheming. They have to react to him. They have him bugged and surveilled to the gills, but he can deny them use of some of that illicit intel.
I don’t feel so hot…💩
Jabbed?
Ok, so is there an/what is the best example of something really juicy that got out and is easy to understand not some deep weeds stuff that even the laziest leftie would say, oh sh….?
There’s nothing, even when they have a mouthful, that “the laziest leftie would say, oh sh….?”.
Really, that’s a great question. If we could get those numbers on our side…because what many or most of them are, are duped into doing evil’s work, believing they are doing good.
That’s how evil works; no one will fight for evil, so evil has to put on a mask. This is why good things get turned to bad ends. They believe they are doing the right thing.
Most, nearly all, peoples want to do good, do right, the Deceiver need only mislead them; the do-gooders don’t cease because the problems don’t end, so they double down.
So, given that President Trump is relying on Truth Managers posing as Truth Tellers, is there any process, procedure or leverage we can apply to force the Truth Managers into becoming Truth Tellers?
Do we out them? If so, then how?
that is my question. I don’t have an answer yet.
Assume all the silo heads are Truth Managers. So that leaves one Truth Teller with the power to declassify what the Truth Managers will not.
Trump asks for the Truths. The People see which of his silo heads stand with him and who betrays him. If the silo head refuses, Trump declassifies the Truth and makes it public. The House impeaches Trump.
The People now know the Truth and see the Truth Teller being impeached. Meanwhile more Truths come out. Do the People let the Truth Teller be impeached? The VP assumes office and decides if his loyalty is with the People or the DeepState.
Government cannot and will not reform itself.
Or could a Truth Manager become a Truth Teller if they know someone has their back when crap happens? Perhaps quick action on J6 hostages would then bear fruit in giving people backbone. Slow or no J6 action will not bring any Truth Tellers.
Boy what a mountain we have to climb. Wish I could say I was surprised..something I frequently think reading these articles. This and all the other world governments/multinationals corps/etc really are the machine.
well, I am sorry, I still don’t quite understand how this is going to work. Maybe if someone can email me. I know SunDance has my email lol. I still have questions. I don’t have a PHD and my IQ was only 135 when I had to take that test eon’s ago. I confess to not being the brightest.
If your IQ was 135, you’d get it.
135 is gifted, if not near genius level.
that was as I said .. eons ago. My brain is not what it used to be. And thank you again for being a smart ass. I’m not a genius but you seem to think you are. Go away and stop replying to me, you a shit stirrer. I asked for a better explanation, not a smart alec. Blatantly calling me a liar…again against the policy that SunDance asks. But of course, you never adhere. Why did I expect anything else?
‘Acting in his “official duty,” the President of the United States can take a document (any document) and walk into the Brady Room, hand it to a journalist and that document is automatically declassified.‘
The public majority that voted for Trump will look at any who try and impeach him as an enemy of the state. No more pretending by what I have called Anger Mgrs allowed. Those pretending to be on the side of the people but the status quo never changes will be revealed when they pile on to try and impeach Trump. He needs to hit them first, do a truth bio similar to what you did above, on each of them, for the public to see anytime and with updates, listing each act with what they pretended to know compared to what they factually must have known. Post it on Truth Social or X.
Post it on Truth Social and X.
This can’t be repeated enough times.
Nobody has ever tried REALLY direct democracy, when they have tens or hundreds of millions of volunteers waiting for the call.
Well, on the bright side, there’s only 62 days till Ground Hog Day.
Really not looking forward to Warren Wilhelm Jr.’s return.
I wonder what the TRUTH is regarding 2000 mules:
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/maga-filmmaker-trump-praised-admits-160610991.html
makes you wonder what they found on him
Hey peace. Did you even read the lousy yahoo article? His source video material from “True the vote” got mixed up by True the vote and some of the people filmed dropping off ballots weren’t the mules…………..so what. There were still 2000 mules. He apologized to the guy.
You mean like what True the Vote had to say?
https://onward.locals.com/post/6422654/true-the-vote-response-to-dsouza-media-statement-on-2000-mules
Truth is generally found with the people who are unpopular with the formerly mainstream media. Sadly, it looks like D’Souza cares about something more than the truth.
peace
Dec 2, 2024 at 5:29pm
True the Vote Response to D’Souza Media Statement on ‘2000 Mules’
We recently became aware that Mr. D’Souza issued a statement regarding the movie ‘2000 Mules’ and a case currently in litigation. We provide this clarification on his statement:
The central premise of ‘2000 Mules’, as identified and validated by True the Vote’s (TTV) research, remains accurate. However, regarding the individual mentioned in Mr. D’Souza’s statement, TTV had no editorial control over the ‘2000 Mules’ movie and no involvement in the books. We did not select videos or graphics used for dramatic effect. This individual was not part of the geospatial study in which TTV identified 242 unique devices having visited at least 10 ballot drop boxes—a fact that was communicated to Mr. D’Souza’s team. Despite this, D’Souza’s team included a blurred video of this individual in their ‘2000 Mules’ movie and book productions.
Also the DOJ used geospatial data from cellphones to get the J6 people currently in the gulag.
Go big or go home.
If only PT read CTH and especially this thread, then and only then might he understand that if he wants to truly take down the DS then he needs to add Sundance to his core inner circle of advisors ASAP.
Sundance understands the workings of the DS better than virtually any of PT’s people and frankly better than PT.
Most who’ve been around D.C. long enough are firmly aware. Only the events of the past decade have exposed it beyond the Swamp.
Precisely why absolutely no one in the tight circles around President Trump will ever allow Sundance to reach him.
Yep, I did say that.
Respectfully, there are dozens of other Onternet sleuths who feel the same way.
Excellent post. My only disagreement is that the “central power” himself — PDJT – was threatened with indictment and obstruction if he did those things. That false barrier, the idea that the bureaucrats run the President and not the other way around, has been the DC ops model for decades.
It’s reasonable to assume – and you make this point well – that people inside the system like Nunes and Patel would have been similarly deterred from telling Trump “just release it” lest they also be criminally charged.
So now we have SCOTUS come in last summer with its Unitary Executive “immunity” ruling. This obliterated, nuclear annihilation, the idea that the bureaucrats can threaten POTUS. It’s now an empty threat. A dead weapon.
Why is Trump not using the FBI to do background checks? Is it because he doesn’t trust the FBI? OR, is it more likely that he’s doing it because they can no longer threaten him with prosecution for refusing?
It’s the second one. And I can tell because GSA and others keep chirping about the transition “law” put in place by Obama. Trump is ignoring it. (I think he agreed to a partial implementation.) They have NO POWER over Trump other than their petulant refusal to give transition staff a desk and a computer. That’s it.
So now extrapolate the non-use of the FBI to other areas of government. They can no longer threaten Trump. They can no longer demand recusals. No more special counsels. No nothing.
I have other reasons for not supporting Patel. Mostly lack of experience running a complex organization.
That being said, all the threats the deep state uses are now neutered. Trump rejecting FBI background checks indicates he understands what it REALLY means to be president, when he did not before. For this reason I think we will find out very quickly in early 2025 whether we will see Patel “name names”.
And Samantha Power needs to become famous, too. Not just Mary McCord.
I agree 100% and posted similarly down thread before reading your comment. The Supreme Court ruling gives the President “safe harbor” to tell anyone in the Executive Branch to go eff themselves.
As usual Hokkoda, you said it much more eloquently than me.
Thanks!
I swore I read a day or two ago, that he agreed to let them vet his picks….
Cant find the article at the moment.
But there sure as heck is one….! know I read that.
I hope President Trump takes your counsel Sundance. There must be a strategic sequence to the info release to make it effective and create a public demand for more and more until the sun shines brightly on this whole morass.
It’s the Praetorian Guard that scares the shit out of me for him.
The real question I forgot to add was this: How do we the people assist in this endeavor?
Our elected officials have proven to be 99.9% ineffective.
The big assist was on November 5th. I don’t know what else to do. It’s for sure our elected representatives don’t listen to us yet. Maybe that will change as all of this starts unfolding.
I’m going to keep repeating what others proposed, Post it all on Truth Social AND X.
There are thousands (millions) of internet sleuths on social media and alternate media;
“There must be a strategic sequence to the info release to make it effective and create a public demand for more and more” is exactly right, brilliant, it reverts the whole media scheme of cover-up, and the NGO scams of fake ‘activism’ into real citizen response.
Maybe the silos were so powerful they had convinced people they didn’t have the powers they had. They now know they can do the things they didn’t know before. It’s possible.
Also.. maybe they threatened Trump with real impeachment if he went forward and real removal. So then, it didn’t matter wheat he could do. It mattered that he’d be removed.
Sundance – maybe there are other reasons as well. Not only the one you present. You present that one because it’s the most logical and it makes sense. But not all things in a bureaucracy are logical. A lot of times people simply don’t know the powers they have, because they’ve been told so.
Once someone breaks through the mold, and others see what can be done, we might see a lot more people taking the initiative.
Does Trump still have his copy of the binder?
You have to ask that question?
Fair analysis. In defense, I’m sure there were lots of lawfare threats individually on these folks, heck look at Presidents Trumps confidential documents case. Not all of them have the resources to personally fight that off. The process is the punishment.
Also, the recent Supreme Court case makes these issues much clearer. I’d expect more of the “dropping off boxes to the media” to be part of the new administration.
It’s a whole new ballgame. Trump’s non use of the FBI for background checks gives me hope that he now fully understands he does not have to obey the borg running the bureaucracy.
And neither do his appointees.
He doesn’t have to obey the media, either. Bypassing them could be the nucleus of parallel institutions by the patriots and dissidents, a core around which the parallel economy we need will form.
We must provide a safe space for our people and a means of their support. A new Church of legitimate authority- an idea, a vision, an identity- always comes before the economic revolt and breakaway.
The US used to be a nation of sovereign states. A MAGA Nation!
I say bring the ideological core based around Truth- full declassification, spread by the citizens themselves- because the nationalized Empire of Lies will not last.
Then maybe he could go all out in his last year and declassify everything he can get his hands on. Hopefully in the meantime he has arrested a lot of these people to be tried for treason or for their criminal activity.
In his last year would they bother with trying to impeach him once everything is declassified?
Also does anyone have anyone in particular to run after President Trump? I don’t trust any of them that he has picked too much. Shouldn’t we be working on that and the campaigns of people to run in 26 for congress?
I say no, you’re trying to still play by their rules.
Screw their rules. Don’t creep and tiptoe hoping they don’t kill him in the first three years. That’s assuming the alternative media will even exist in three years.
Strike now! While the iron is hot! Shock and awe!
Blast out the sunshine before they take full control of alternative media, of the Internet itself!