Robert F Kennedy released the following message via his Twitter Account:
Bottom line: No matter what state you live in, VOTE TRUMP. A Trump victory is a Kennedy victory. pic.twitter.com/GBn2p2RLnX
— Robert F. Kennedy Jr (@RobertKennedyJr) September 10, 2024
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Inasmuch as I want to value RFK Jr’s positions on the core issues of freedom vs totalitarianism, I find myself looking at his presentations with great suspicion.
Trust when lost, increases cynicism. Unfortunately, too few people know how to compartmentalize cynicism and simultaneously trust their instincts which support it. [BACKGROUND]
We have been saying for many years that we are in an abusive relationship with government. This battered conservative syndrome truly represents the dynamic at the heart of our current conflict.
When facing our adversaries, division becomes a necessary dynamic to accept. Yet simultaneously, division is the core issue all of freedom’s adversaries’ exploit. It truly is a challenging dynamic to overcome.
Here we stand, looking at a Robert F Kennedy Jr, a Democrat saying the only way for him (and his policies) to enter the White House, is if everyone votes for Donald Trump. I find the framework of this argument very suspicious, in part because I look at how the opposition has played this game for years.
We have suffered greatly in this game of professional Republican maneuvering. Additionally, as we elevate our awakening, the professionals who weaponize patriotism against our interests also raise their influence operations. This leads to a dynamic where our rightly placed distrust is leveraged as another point of division.
In the world of Lee Atwater, Karl Rove and Alex Castellanos, the ploy to snuggle up close to the adversary then later release their Brutus operation has been repeated often. Yet if we do not open ourselves to this tenuous vulnerability, we also run a risk.
I know I am not alone in feeling trepidation. Every move made by the collective Ron DeSantis, RFK Jr and Elon Musk group carries a potential dual scenario, one good and one bad: each possibility dependent on the intention of the crew behind them.
It was exactly this same type of scenario that led to the Bill Barr 50/50 conversations. Those debates took place on these very pages as well as within hundreds of conversations I had in 2019 and 2020.
Each move and expression by Attorney General Bill Barr could be looked upon favorably or unfavorably depending on the prism used to review it. After years of ‘battered conservative’ experience, I refused to grant Barr any benefit of doubt. We all saw how that turned out. The Bill Barr/DC cynics were correct. AG Barr was the institutional insurance policy for the DOJ and FBI to remain unscathed by the presence of President Trump.
JFK Jr feels like a replay of that debate. On one hand Kennedy holds the potential to be a great benefit. On the other hand, he is well positioned to hold the sheath of Brutus beneath his cloak…. Potentially triggering when Judge Merchan in New York acts against president-elect Trump.
Being MAGA in 2024 feels like a cat walking past a group of Haitians. It’s exhausting.
You are always right but have you gone down the rabbit holes of health, food, and the medical fields.
I think he is being honest of course he has an ego and thinks he can have influence in other areas.
Strike his ego, let him feel important, and hopefully get a little boost.
He can be the little boss he wants to be over a Dept created just for him.
He didn’t say anything about getting into the White House.
I would expect him to say to his supporters that they can’t vote for him expecting him to get into DC.
What should he have said?
Kept mouth shut.
So he should not have clarified to his voters, who he previously told they could still vote for him, just not in the swing states, that they need to vote for Trump now, because it is just too important?
That doesn’t seem wise to me.
I believed from the beginning of President Trump taking the viper into his camp it was not a good idea and most of what comes out of kennedy’s mouth confirms.
kennedy is used to being a “Kennedy” stage center and he is proving that is where he wants to be.
IF kennedy was a team player he would keep his mouth shut in public. Simple a that.
Would you like me to provide a list of kennedy faux pas?
I think the big problem some people are having is that RFKJr. isn’t acting defeated, humble, and humiliated.
That’s probably because he is not any of those things.
He made a deal with PDJT to accomplish a goal of his, a longtime goal from before Donald Trump ever even ran for president.
He can hold his head high.
TRUST…….because we can use him and united is better than divided….but verify……..because blind trust can and will bite you in the butt!
RFK Jr will and can prove himself through his actions since that speaks louder than any words he can muster. And Trump….and MAGA need to watch those actions with a keen eye!
There should not be quotes around that headline.
Exactly. What RFK said was that voting for Trump would allow RFK’s policies to find a place “in Washington DC” to help fight the corruption and preserve our freedoms. No mention of “the White House” at all. It was inaccurate and misleading to place that in quotes.
I 100% agree with SD’s point of being suspicious. At the same time I’m terrified at the thought that Kameltoe could be our next president. The thought of that is horrifying. It would be the end of our Republic.
Alternatively, if RFK can be focused on overhauling our Pharma/FDA cabal and encouraging a return to normal health practices it could be a great thing.
I have to hold out hope for that because the alternative is just too terrible.
Sundance you may be correct that RFK is working for the deep state but we need his voters to get Trump over the top so it is a risk we must take. The only chance of restoring our Republic is by destroying the deep state controlled by the elites and this will require defenders of rule of law under our Constitution to be united. Once restored we can go back to arguing over taxes, etc. but unless we win there will be no more arguing with each other over anything. I remain a steadfast supporter of MAGA and will defend our liberty with my life. We need every person we can get to win this.
What tells you we need his voters? They are still going to vote for the Demcommies, in my opinion.
Weren’t we told his staying in the race was a bad thing because he was going to “pull” votes from Trump?
If those votes were going to hurt Trump, doesn’t he need them?
Some of us don’t believe everything we’re told, especially when common sense disagrees.
Tucker Carlson doesn’t know everything. Jr’s voters are leftists and Trump haters who agree with his words, “PDJT is a terrible human being & probably a sociopath.” Talk about pot to kettle.
Jr tried hard to peel away at Trump’s base, but he was unsuccessful. Out of his own mouth, he declared that his agenda was to “spoil it for both of them.”
“The Democrats are frightened that I’m going to spoil it for President Biden, and the Republicans are frightened that I’m going to spoil it for Trump. The truth is—-they are both right. My intention is to spoil it for both of them.”
“I want everyone to know that I am not terminating my campaign. I am simply suspending it and not ending it. My name will remain on the ballot in most states. If you live in a blue state, you can vote for me without harming or helping President Trump or Vice President Harris. In red states, the same will apply. I encourage you to vote for me. And if enough of you do vote for me, and neither of the major party candidates win 270 votes, which is quite possible, in fact, our polling shows them tying at 269, I could conceivably still end up in the White House in a contention election. But in about ten battleground states, where my presence would be a spoiler, I’m going to remove my name, and I’ve already started that process and urge voters not to vote for me.”-RFK Jr August 23, 2024
Exactly!
His voters are pissed! They are leftists who now plan to write in a candidate and then vote down ballot. They think Jr tricked them into giving up their cash just to temporarily get his name on more ballots than just Utah. He’s a grifter.
RFKJr: “You knew what I was when you took me in.”
Trust no Kennedy……….Ever.
Yeah, go on with your RFK, Jr. hate speeches, continue the animosity towards anyone who isn’t a blueblood, and see where that gets you!
WAKE UP! He’s telling his supporters to vote for Trump or they won’t have freedom of speech or any other freedoms ever again!! HE’S 100% RIGHT!
Without his support, Kamala/Obama could win. Then where are you all going to be? SILENCED!!! THAT’S WHAT!!
You all have become a bunch of back-biting bitties who won’t support anyone who has some warts. FOR THE SAKE OF OUR COUNTRY, GROW UP!!
After the Sessions catastrophe….
After the Barr catastrophe….
After the Pence catastrophe…
After the DiSantimonius catastrophe….
on and on…Blah..blah…blah🤷♀️💁
I believe many Treepers …myself included…
have learned many lessons.
We have a tendency to view the political
landscape-and World- in a way most
people don’t.
We have grown up-we are just waiting for
more people to…..get a clue.🤷♀️💁🤷♀️
I agree some conservatives find it necessary to be purists which has cost us several senate seats when it came to strict Pro life conservatives e.g Claire McKaskill vs Todd Akin and others. We don’t have to shoot ourselves in the foot so many times
We don’t need RFK Jr’s “support” to beat kamala/obama
If not now, when, if not who, me.
RFK, Jr. has a lot to offer, for starters as the anti Fauci. His past allegiance to the Dem party and his history of pursuing suits against what big goob’mint has done to citizens in the past have schooled him well as to who caused this present mess.
Avoid the snark, OK? This one’s for all the marbles!
Jr is NOT a physician. At this point, everyone is anti-Fauci.
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Is RFK wrong?
Robert Kennedy Jr on sexual assault allegations:
“I am who I am” It’s 1 thing for women to FALSELY accuse men and/or women of sexual assault, it’s another to be credibly accused with a long personal history (and Kennedy family history) of sexual assault and impropriety in the workplace.
Workplace harassment like TARA READE #metoo
Eliza Cooney said she went to work with Kennedy in the fall of 1998 after babysitting over the summer for some of his nieces and nephews on Cape Cod. A recent graduate of Pomona College, she was interested in a career in environmental law. Kennedy was then the top attorney at Riverkeeper, one of New York’s premier environmental organizations. Cooney said she worked weekdays as an intern at an environmental litigation clinic Kennedy led at Pace Law School, and over the weekends would look after his kids. She lived in the expansive home in Mount Kisco, N.Y., that Kennedy shared with his second wife, Mary Richardson Kennedy, who more than a decade later would die by suicide amid bitter divorce proceedings with her husband.
#1-Weeks after she started, Cooney said, she was sitting in the kitchen with Kennedy and a Riverkeeper volunteer when Kennedy began running his hand up and down her leg beneath the table. She said she batted his hand away but that he persisted throughout the conversation. They never spoke about it afterward, but Cooney wrote about the experience at the time in her journal, which she showed to The Post. “It seemed like he thought I was somebody else or wasn’t paying attention,” she wrote. “Like he would come to every once in a while and snap out of it or I would move away. It was like he was on something or really tired or was missing Mary or testing me.”
#2-Not long after that, she said, Kennedy showed up shirtless in her room one day with a large bottle of Kiehl’s, an expensive body lotion, and asked her to rub it into his back — explaining, she said, that his wife believed it to be the best brand of moisturizer. Cooney said the request made her uncomfortable but that she obliged, and he left afterward.
#3-On a third occasion, she said, she was in the kitchen pantry after yoga class, looking for food to make lunch, when Kennedy silently approached her from behind and placed his hands on her hips. She said he then ran his hands up her body and along the sides of her breasts. “I remember being like, ‘Oh my God, what is even happening right now?’” Cooney told The Post. “It’s very much like being quiet because you’re hiding from somebody under the bed or something, you know? That’s how I felt.” At that moment, she said, a man working on renovations in the house came into the kitchen and made his presence known to Kennedy, saying something along the lines of, “Don’t do anything I wouldn’t do” or, “Don’t do anything you wouldn’t want your wife to know about.”
>Cooney never spoke of the incident afterward with Kennedy, although she continued living in the house for several months and worked at the Pace Law clinic for another few years, completing a project on the history of the Hudson River. “I felt as though if I walked away, all the investment I put in would be for naught,” she said.
Her 1st Job
>“It was my first job. I didn’t want that to be a failure. And it was for Bobby Kennedy, who was at the time a prominent environmental lawyer, which was the work I wanted to go into.” But Cooney did not ultimately pursue such a career, she said, in part because of her negative experiences with Kennedy.
Tara Reade also told her mother:
Several years ago, amid the #MeToo movement’s onslaught of revelations, she shared her story for the first time with her mother, Holly Cooney, who told The Post it was “horrifying to hear about, especially with your own child.”
>Last summer Cooney consulted Elizabeth Geddes, a former federal prosecutor now in private practice. Geddes said the unwanted touching of her breasts that Cooney described constituted sexual assault, but that the criminal statute of limitations had passed. Cooney was still eligible — for a limited time — to bring a civil complaint under New York state’s Adult Survivors Act, but decided not to do so, concerned about the costs and duration of a lawsuit, as well as the potential blowback for herself and her family. Geddes said this week that she considered Kennedy’s efforts to reach out directly to Cooney highly unusual. “This is something that perhaps might make an offender feel better about doing it,” Geddes said. “But it’s hard to imagine that an apology such as this could provide any closure or other solace to somebody who was sexually assaulted in the workplace.”
1 Reporter was courageous enough to ask a Kennedy about the credible allegations:
“Listen, I’ve said this from the beginning. I’m not a church boy. I am not running like that. I said in my—I had a very, very rambunctious youth,” he said. “I said in my announcement speech that I have so many skeletons in my closet that if they—if they could all vote, I could run for king of the world. So, you know, Vanity Fair is recycling 30-year-old stories. And, I’m not, you know, going to comment on the details of any of them, but it’s, you know, I am who I am.”
Why is the mainstream media protecting Jr?
Bobby Jr sent an apology text. What a douchebag groomer:
“I read your description of an episode in which I touched you in an unwanted manner,” Kennedy said in a text message sent to Cooney that was seen by Reuters. Reuters verified it was Kennedy’s cellphone number using TLOxp, a service that provides public and proprietary data. “I have no memory of this incident,” the text continues, “but I apologize sincerely for anything I ever did that made you feel uncomfortable or anything I did or said that offended you or hurt your feelings. If I hurt you, it was inadvertent. I feel badly for doing so.”
Don Jr, are these the values of the Trump Organization or the Trump Family?
Is it truly a ‘dual scenario’ when you examine the entities behind the scenes that fund RFK, Musk or DeSantis? Is it our hope that, despite this funding, these men have had some kind of epiphany, or are playing ‘4D chess’? On the other hand, who can we actually name, perhaps other than Trump, that doesn’t potentially have motives or histories that can be called questionable….I cannot think of many.