Senator JD Vance gave the keynote speech at the RNC convention for day #3. Senator Vance officially accepted the nomination to be Donald Trump’s Vice-Presidential nominee.
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Nice lapel flag pin worn by the Trump nominee. Don Jr wore the same one.
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Time will tell.
God protected Trump from an assassin… God can protect us from a bad VP pick…💪
Burn the ships because neither Trump nor Vance is going to withdraw his candidacy.
I am in this fight for our nation and people all over the world because of Trump.
Oh Lord, hear our prayer.
He picked vance before any Revelations received after the ugly business.
The attempt on his life was a chance to change course but PT already told vance he was it, and President Trump is a man of his word.
I believe President Trump listens to too many people and gets analysis paralysis and makes snap decisions with cabinet picks.
I wish Don Jr. Would go get a job or take up sportfishing.
Gee maybe he can sell some Paint by Number paintings.
Yes, on Don jr.(I like him), I agree that he takes too much advice from family. It was the son in law in the first admin.
….and let our cry come to You….
Are you sure—when Trump needed Pence the most look what happened.
“I am the Resurrection and the life. He that believes in me, though he were dead…yet shall he live.”
And then Lazarus came out of the grave after four days.
Yup, God’s got this…at least the Triune God has got this, which is the only True God that I know of.
But we pray at the convention to a sikh god? You think Yeshua is on our side?
He gonna send the four horsemen.
Only Jesus can change lives and stop them from praying to a false “god” aka satan himself, the enemy of their own souls. I find myself less and less tolerant of Almighty Jehovah God being dishonored like that. But this is a gathering of the saved and the unsaved. I don’t know that we can expect more than what we’ve seen. Jesus is Lord and every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that fact one day. Until then, winning elections is still important.
A prayer said at the RNC convention, a worship service it does not make.
I separate the two and am not offended.
God foresaw
God allowed
Glory be to God
As i said before and will keep on saying, There is a huge difference between just doing presentation of another a religion’s prayer and saying a closing prayer to many other gods in an America Conservative Convention Monday night the closing prayer was to the many Hindu gods, not our Lord.
Exodus 20:3 NIV
You Shall Have No Other Gods Before Me
Luke 4:8 NIV
Jesus answered, “It is written: ‘Worship the Lord your God and serve him only.
That was only one of several prayers. Now let’s nitpick a little more.
I don’t have a problem with a Sikh prayer, or a Jewish prayer, or a Hindu prayer. I would have a big problem with a Muslim prayer though!
I appreciate that the party is trying to draw in more people and not being exclusively Christian, especially as we see the balance of religions shifting in our country and the Christian majority is steadily shrinking. Indians are typically in the highly-productive demographic who want a good economy and safe clean neighborhoods and good schools. We should want them on our side.
I feel as you do, but yet the first night of the convention was closed with a prayer to many other gods not the True God that most of us and you have been thanking and praising for protecting Trump.
Strange how so many of the commentators on went from praising and thanking our Lord for protecting Trump to saying it OK now to pray to other gods in closing the first night of the Convention.
Hey there is a huge difference between just doing presentation of another a religion’s prayer and saying a closing prayer to many other gods in an America Conservative Convention Monday night the closing prayer was to the many Hindu gods, not our Lord.
Exodus 20:3 NIV
You Shall Have No Other Gods Before Me
Luke 4:8 NIV
Jesus answered, “It is written: ‘Worship the Lord your God and serve him only.
Jesus, who is not only our Saviour, but the Great Exemplar, healed people without once asking them what god they believed in. He told us to go forth and do likewise.
The notion that Vance was a bad pick is WAY premature.
But…but…didn’t Sundance tell us he was a bad pick???
You are right, but I don’t think PDJT will take the BS like he did with Pence this time around. If JD can help to secure the rust belt for Trump, then he did his job.
We saw enough auditions for 2028 at this convention and the field is already very crowded. We shall see if a true Make America Great Candidate can follow President Trump.
JD who then takes over when the he next bullet doesn’t miss??
Just think…in 4 and a bit years time, he can replace the the ‘J’ with ‘A’ and campaign under the banner of ‘Advance’.
Started slow, but got better. At least we didn’t have to look at putz, I mean Pence, all night. Here’s hoping he settles in.
When you look at Vance you are looking at Pence; hand picked by the same UNIPARTY; like Obama he came along with the hillbilly story, like Obama’s ‘community organizer’ story…….AND Biden got the ‘coal cracker’ from Scranton persona…….it goes on because We are gullible; when We do due diligence We choose real grass roots because We have the sense to…..common sense.
Why do you think Trump didn’t name Vance right at the start????? Because DeSantis was the ‘chosen’ and We sussed him out!! The UNIPARTY picks all candidates, yes I’m starting to really believe they chose Trump to go the way of Palin…….complete character assassination (with a little real assassination thrown in)……..It’s not the Ds it really and truly is the UNIPARTY playing both sides, they can’t lose!!
Absolutely NO TIME to get to the real Vance; his cover is protected by his coming title……..his new clothes are those of a VP soon to be POTUS. Ya think Trump will last the 4 years??
Sorry I’m not blaming Trump, I’m not jumping off the Trump train, BUT I’m am vowing never ever to give one red cent to politics!! The money raised by nefarious means is heinous!
2030 remains the target for the NWO/Communism and We just got to place Vance to be the leader of it all.
The fake hillbilly is Ours now; whether We like it or not. AND lots of praying – in private of course. THE UNIPARTY is on a roll…..And We provided some of the momentum unfortunately, unknowingly, and underhandedly.
Grassroots has had the wool pulled over it’s eyes?? yet again
Vitriol will not save a nation. Unity. Grace. A fierce warrior clothed in compassion. Sorry, I choose to trust the flawed but faithful man who just dodged a bullet – and the angel army that protects him.
I choose to trust God – who saved that flawed but faithful man from those bullets…
Is it vitriol or the truth
Yep
Are you serious? Vance is NOTHING like Pence. Your bitterness harms only you.
I am like you–I do not believe that the fake hillbilly Truly did a 180…..
Vance is using Trump to clime the pollical ladder to money and fame probably.
Remember Vance has spend most of his political and media history bashing Trump and Trump supporters and now we are supposed to play nice nice. hmmm
Remember Trump is 78 years, Heaven forbid that anything happens during his four years as president. But if something does, do we really want Vane being the one to step in.
at least it wasn’t a purple tie
That very well could have been South Dakota Governor Kristi Noem up there on the stage tonight accepting the VP nomination and she could have been POTUS 2029 and 2033 but Cricket took his revenge from the grave tonight.
Uh, NO. She’s not trustworthy. At all.
Dr. Carson’s speech blew this out of the water, period.
Dr, Carson is a man with a lot of wisdom and understanding. It would be hard for anyone to top him.
You ain’t kidding!
She is a hard core zionist, fit right in
‘They’ ain’t going to save us. It’s up to us to do that.
Occam’s razor. Nope. Just nope.
I know I’m tacking against the wind here in the Treehouse but I like what I see. I think we got the right guy. I love Dr Carson but he is old. Hold on there Hoss! I’m 80 I got the creds to say that! You don’t like it tough patooties. We need a VP who can be the attack dog on the campaign trail and bring a level of energy to the campaign that the soft spoken Doctor doesn’t bring no matter how much you like him, respect his accomplishments or his life story. We have to win this thing in Nov. and oh BTW this isn’t 2016 and our Lion is getting a bit longer in the tooth. Sorry, it happens. I know.
I admit to a bit of bias here. I have roots in the coal fields of Eastern Ohio. Born and raised dirt poor. Got my BSEE on the GI bill after a 4 year hitch in the Navy and a career as an Aerospace Manager and Lead Engineer. Nice to see another Hill Billy make it out of the hills.
I first noticed Senator Vance after the train derailment in East Palestine, Ohio. I liked what I saw then and the more I see and learn about him the better I like what I see. President Trump needs a kick ass helper to get the job done over the next 4 years and I must admit having an heir to the throne in 28 doesn’t bother me. I’m an old circuit design engineer and always liked having a backup plan in my hip pocket.
Hey, if he bombs I’ll be the first one on here to kick his behind. But don’t hold your breath.
Finally I will say I never hired a person that I didn’t trust to get the job done and I never told them how to do their job. This fall I will be hiring President Trump to lead my country. If he thinks Senator Vance is the right choice it works for me.
My sentiments as well. This is who President Trump chose now lets get this in the in-zone.
Ultra-MAGA!
I don’t appreciate jd monetizing the suffering of Appalachian Americans.
What has he done for East Palestinians? For the Eastern Kentuckian? West Virginians, Eastern Tennesseans, Western North Carolinians or North Georgia since entering the Senate?
It reminds me of Gangsta Rappers glorifying pimping, drug dealing and hood violence through “music” and then hauling tail to gated communities as soon as the first check clears, never looking back.
Exactly.
Furthermore it will be tough to do 8-12 years of hearing stories about Mamaw and celebrating her crass and murderous behavior.
Don’t get me wrong, there is trash in the mountains.
We don’t really celebrate them or make the rest of the Country think that is all that is out there, while making a pile of cash doing so.
Just so, but I suspect they love this Country. If/ when the s/=< 3v3r hits the fan, I want these guys at my 6.
Country boy can survive.
I don’t appreciate the focus on the sobriety of his mother. His speech should have ONLY included the PLANS he has to help change our country’s collision course. He reads like a Social Emotional Learner and someone with enough baggage that when the SHTF, he’s going to grab his cabbage patch kid and hit the corner and pout to Mommy.
The “Marines” of today are not the Marines of yesterday – I give you Todd Young of Indiana.
Where is jd’s legislation to undo the law sponsored by D!ckless Durbin and Foam Rave Rubio back in 2015 that shields the distribution hubs like Cardinal Health and the DEA from lawsuits for using Florida’s pill mill “loophole” to flood Appalachia with oxycodone from 1998 to 2011.
The DEA was SUPPOSED to stop “any suspicious order” for narcotics. I guess a couple billion pills wasn’t suspicious.
Cornbread,
I heard nothing of policies, just more “hope and change” garbage to the tune of the obama band.
You will never hear Trump use “crutches” in his speeches… or “oh, whoa, is me”. It is not proper for a sitting or potential President to roll out their list of “weaknesses”.
Uniparty hacks are pulling out their checkbooks – JD can be bought.
You almost got it right, I’ll fix it for you……JD HAS been bought!
Good God Almighty, I thought I was done with Democrat and their media vitriol. This thread takes the cake for all the hating on JD. Give the guy a chance, for heaven’s sake!!!!!!!
This isn’t the way to win over anyone who is downtrodden either generationally or new to the game because of hyper Bidenflation.
The down-home all trash no trailer Yalie Spiritually ambiguous sage act doesn’t make sense to me, but what do I know?
JWoo-💯💯💯
Yep same ole same ole we being hoodwinked again.
He is as manuchurian as Obama
He wants Bona Fides; hillbilly is his message. Like Obama through and through.
Obama called US gun toting Bible thumpers; Vance is trying to prove him wrong or bad mouthing hillbillies?? Being a hillbilly as well as a coal cracker I know he’s fake……
But like Hillary’s deplorables……..We know grassroots is the toughest character around and the most resilient!
Vance can’t last the test of time IMHO; but I do feel he thinks he’s destined to rule in the NWO/Communism THE UNIPARTY have chosen, We will determine the real outcome.
I had never seen him till now and my first reaction is his eyes are
evil
I thought paying tribute to his mother and her triumph over alcoholism was a heart-warming and healing moment for both of them.
Save it for his interview with “The View” – this was the RNC Convention and his first show at being the 2nd in line to lead the free world. No time for butt kissin.
He’s not there to do anything for anyone; he’s only there for the UNIPARTY to usher in the NWO/Communism
2030 AND We have been duped into putting him there……..He’s Pence, DeSantis, McCain, Romney, Obama, Biden, Schummer, Pelosi ALL rolled into one. MANMADE not grass roots, why do you think he calls himself a hillbilly, like Biden is a coal cracker, Obama a community organizer; they are FAKE personas.
NOW We can’t have Trump without the UNIPARTY!! I’m not feeling that good about all the hype otherwise.
I wonder if someday we’ll have OUR awakening and realize that Trump is uniparty, too. How long can we go with “Our lion is a patriotic God-chosen superman who “accidentally” makes bad decisions all the time.”?
I’m not saying that I believe that; I’m just saying that it’s possible.
You left out the Southwest Virginians.
Sir, please forgive my hasty fingers and momentary lapse of reason! I stand corrected.
PS Trump is Trump, through and through NYer, warts and all; Our only hope is for him to let US see behind Vance’s curtain of fabrication hillbilly essence and let US be his choice for running the country! Our votes Our ideas! should guide him to the smallest government, constitutional adherence, and absolute given freedoms.
But most of all seeing the children are the future.
He likes Unionization which is antithetical to our form of government.
He didn’t once mention our farmers. Guess we will see another vege garden in DC.
Yes. And he served the Marines in Iraq and earned the right in not necessarily wearing the flag on his lapel, like so many other phony politicians who never served, but wears it on his heart. His family looked like middle America.
I read that he served but didn’t see action. Much like my sister, an Army nurse, during the Vietnam War. She never had to put her life on the line. Did he?
And what an illustrious Marine career that was – seems he learned about social justice and such…
Also got him some good learning on his way to be a politician – seems well prepared for THAT job!
https://usmilitary.com/jd-vance-marine/
Joining in 2003, Vance served four years in the Marine Corps, including a tour in Iraq during Operation Iraqi Freedom. His primary role was as a public affairs specialist, a role that honed his communication skills, a talent readily apparent in his later writing and public speaking. During his service, Vance interacted with individuals from diverse socioeconomic backgrounds, offering him a broader perspective than his upbringing in a struggling Rust Belt town.
This experience exposed him to the realities of social inequality, something he explores extensiv
ely in “Hillbilly Elegy.” He noticed many enlisted folks came from disadvantaged backgrounds, lacking personal finance or career planning knowledge. This fueled his belief that such structural barriers keep many from achieving upward mobility.
I agree and I have a story to tell here. My sister who is a die hard dyed in the wool Democrat called me after the speech. She said “You know I can’t stand Trump but I really like this JD guy. He’s young and I think that’s what the country needs. He came from a poor family and working people. He didn’t start out with a silver spoon in his mouth. If they do replace Biden I am going to vote for Trump just to get JD.” I told her you know JD’s policies align with Trump’s and she said “That’s alright. I will have an excuse for voting for Trump just to get JD.” I love it!
Americans are rallying around Trump. You can feel the vibe everywhere.
A lot of Dems & Liberals need something they can latch onto so they don’t have to admit, “Ya know, Trump ain’t so bad after all.”
That’s what makes this RNC so compelling…all the wonderful personalities that non-GOPers can choose from to say, as an example, “I don’t like Trump but those poor families that lost their children in Afghanistan… I’m voting Trump for them.”
Whatever it takes!!
Hmmm… let’s see… a LIBERAL loves JD.
Yep. Sounds about right.
I respect your opinion. I knew a lot of people would not be happy with President Trump’s choice . He can’t please everyone. I love my wonderful President Trump and I will vote for him no matter who he chooses to be his running mate. Since he chose JD Vance I will rally around Mr. Vance because Trump picked him. Maybe he knows more than we do. I don’t know. I’m not very political savvy or pretend to know much about these things. I will pray that JD Vance will be a great Vice President for our country and that he will honor, support and help President Trump to get our country back on track. That’s the only thing any of us can do really is pray unceasingly. I don’t know what the future holds but no matter what happens I will always love and support President Trump.
And there it is!! Trump could’ve picked a cardboard cutout of Reagan as his running mate and I will vote for him, after crawling over glass uphill both ways.
The VP is to bring in more voters. Most people who voted Trump in 2020 were already locked-in on January 20, 2021.
I believe I’m not influenced by their voodoo magic advertising tactics, but a lot of people are and have bought into Orange man bad. They will not give Trump a chance because of how the media/dnc/Rino’s have branded him, the VP pick is a chance for people like your sister to help expand the votes.
Says everthything that needs saying.
Thank you.
Vance’s silver spoon is the same spoon that fed Obama his political pablum! Made exclusively for the UNIPARTY!
Don’t you see the absolute truth behind Obama’s rise to fame; manmade not grassroots tells the fake stories.
Manmade is the cause of a lot of earth’s problems; astroturf is a big part of it.
RRRIGHTTT! Obama served in the military and went to college on the GI Bill? Is that what you mean?
Well, here’s JD Vance’s impressive military role as a Marine – Semper Fi…
Vance’s Military Service and What It Taught Him
His primary role was as a public affairs specialist, a role that honed his communication skills, a talent readily apparent in his later writing and public speaking.
Another American Dream here! Well done!! This is how our country got built. ♥️
As the adage goes, “Do not let perfect be the enemy of good.” Vance is a Marine, very intelligent, raised himself up from poverty, and is a strong family man. Is he perfect? (Do unicorns exist?) No, and Trump chose him. I preferred DeSantis but I’m “good” with Vance.
Contrary to urban legend, Civil Engineering is the world’s oldest profession. Noah was a Civil Engineer. Shipwrights are structural and survey engineers. God gave Noah a design-build spec for a build, and then gave him the operational protocol for that build. He executed all.
A few hundred years ago, as the the universe of applied science was expanding, civil engineers spread out to practice within it. Today, we call these other engineering disciplines EE, ME, etc. But they all have a common origin, all the way back to Noah. When NASA decided to go to the Moon, they required aerospace engineers, yes, but many of the project managers needed to assemble and manage these resources, and the thousands of functional groups spread across NASA and industry, were selected from the ranks of civil engineers. Mass projects require those with mass project management experience. Multi discipline engineering management experience.
The crux of that experience is recognition of the inputs and outputs required at every node, to create the required deliverables. It’s multidiscipline engineering management. All engineering disciplines must be managed, across the sea of deliverables required in a mass project.
Historically, EI&C engineers are weak in multidiscipline engineering management. It’s just a fact. Sure, some can get raised up, but it ain’t in their bones as a group. They school in classical physics, chemistry, mathematics for a couple years, but then they go off to do their thing, to hopefully be led by those who do understand multidiscipline engineering management.
So I wouldn’t be surprised that an EE wouldn’t see the simple inputs/outputs to produce a required deliverable at a node, say a non corrupted politician to a VP slot. The EE might miss the obvious input of oligarch money, and the inevitable output… corruption. And hey, when one works in the MIC, which thrives on inefficient/deficient engineering management, it’s understandable that one would miss this. It’s just another day at the office.
So…. What you’re saying is Trump, the builder, who never became indebted to ‘outside’ money (knowing the harms and evils of that ‘infiltration’) would turn a blind eye to any potential capture of his running mate?
Help me understand if this is what you’re saying?
I had the same problem. What is the message here?
As an aside, I have worked both ends of his simile: engineer, project manager; inside the MIC. I do grow weary of these gross generalizations. It’s a supremely complicated process, overlaid with dozens upon dozens of regulations (e.g., DFARS, FARS) as well as overarching organizational policies/process descriptors. Not everyone in the process is a buffoon. It takes a certain closeted mind not to see the many successes that can be tallied against the obvious and often atrocious failures (and, at times, outright lawlessness). There is a certain habit of mind that sees bogeymen and threats around EVERY corner. I don’t want these people in positions of power anymore than I do the corrupt figures we learn about every time we visit this information sharing space. Trump is not about destroying the system and clearing out every last talking head. He’s about restoring the integrity and fundamental principles of our system/polity; he’s about holding violators/internal agents of destruction (not change in the clean sense of that term) accountable.
Then again, I always thought PM was about Cost, Schedule, Performance. In my experience, some of the best engineers were the worst PMs. And, on the flip side, some of the best PMs were former engineers who were not best of breed in that competency. Different skillsets, training, etc., and success criteria.
Vance is bought. You do with that what you will. Some think that’s just fine. I don’t.
They are ALL bought to one degree or another.
Hey, you must work in the MIC.
Pithy!
And you must be a rocket scientist!
No, I don’t work in ethically-challenged industries, particularly those MIC-related.
Adam was a gardener. But Noah is still cool.
Gardening is not a profession.
I had only a few sound bites as reference to how JD spoke and I expected energy and the “IT” factor but I didn’t feel it, however, Carson is even worse. I do think in both men they have a heart for people and America regardless if their presentation lacks sizzle. Both covey sincerity better than some puffed up politician like Mike Pence and so many in the establishment. Time will tell Lokiscout.
A hundred thousand LOVES for your comments. Having lived more decades to which I am not entitled, and yet exceedingly grateful, and watching politics from the age of 9, I’ve seen too *&#&@ many scripted, polished politicians who never lived a real hard scrabble life, Bob Dole being the one exception, THIS is a real man. Loved his family references!
President Trump made a great choice, and I can’t wait to see how he fills out his Cabinet! So far, so good.
Don’t know, but recently, there have been some real negative comments in the treehouse. Not happy with that, as it is poisonous. We have the media whose been doing enough of that,
I agree with the point about negative comments. We went from “God spared our President” to “JD is the VP pick, we are screwed” so fast I got whiplash. If God spared Trump and His hand is on Trump, I am quite certain He has control of the VP pick as well. God is in charge of EVERY detail so we’re gonna be alright.
As I wrote in an earlier post I am 50/50 on J D Vance.
In the back of my mind, I’m thinking Vance may not turn out so well.
Well, frankly, that thought is in the front of my mind!
This gives me pause – reminds me of DeSantis’s military resume…
Vance’s Military Service and What It Taught Him
His primary role was as a public affairs specialist, a role that honed his communication skills, a talent readily apparent in his later writing and public speaking.
That’s not how it works. God gave you choice. Freewill. It is His greatest gift to you.
Agreed! J.D. Vance is as much of a political outsider as you will find in D.C. Even more so than President Trump who was forced to deal with politicians at all levels as a real estate developer. How he ever got labeled “establishment” and “Pence 2.0” is ridiculous and completely untrue.
“We need a VP who can be the attack dog…”
He met his wife and stopped eating meat to defer to her being a vegetarian.
She’s his “spiritual guide” at Yale.
He likes to watch the movie “Babe” and she felt that important enough to interject in her intro speech. Sounds like she wears the pants in that family.
His son’s name is Vivek. Google two words: vivek soros – Paul is George’s brother and the money was taken when Ramaswampy filed a multi million dollar tax return.
He graduated college with $120,000 debt. He’s now worth $5 million.
He wrote a book – Hillbilly Effegy. (What is the typical way DC grifters “earn” money?)
His close friends: Vivek Ramaswampy, Peter Thiel, Don Jr who is engaged to the creepster Barbie doll with fat lips and fake (everything) Kimberly Guilfoyle who is the ex wife of Governor Gavin “Pelosi nepotism” Newsom.
He is/was/is a Never Trumper.
Started a non-profit helping disadvantaged kids – how many have been helped? What do they do? Where are they based? Who do they work with? (What is a typical way DC grifters “earn” money?)
What message does that send?
Usha “shaped her husband’s rise”… and who has she worked for for the last 10 years???? Who shaped Usha?
NO. There were better qualified, a bit elder… but not octogenarians, who would have been a better security and infrastructure advantage – my picks Thomas Massie and Clay Higgins and Kari Lake.
When someone tells you who they are… you should listen. You should also watch the company they keep and who they slave to.
Kimberly looks like shit with those big fat lips.
She reminds me of Bezos’s wife. Of course Bezos comes out with support after he has divested from Amazon and is out of the game.
Plastic surgeon got carried away.
Yikes, some really mean comments here today. You all are such Trump supporters, yet… doubt his choice after EVERYTHING he has been put through.
Why vote for him if you can’t support his vision? President Trump hasn’t failed yet on his understanding of events. No Monday morning quarterbacking here. I’m with him.
I didn’t see JWoo’s comments as mean, just truthful, but some people don’t like to hear the truth.
If you really need evidence of men being lead astray by their women, I give you King David and King Soloman. Thankfully, God works IN SPITE of the influence of stupid wives; however, WE are the ones who suffer.
Regardless of who the president and VP are, it’s up to us. What are we going to do about our country? (P.S. Voting harder isn’t going to fix anything.)
Yes and no. I agree that the connotation/comparison was different in intent. Nevertheless it was located in a sub-thread highlighting a vulgarity that was completely detached from anything relevant to what matters.
Conversely, men have led women astray; some historical “power couples” were both doomed to common failings (e.g., Cleopatra and Mark Antony).
Your last sentence hits the bullseye!
The question we have is whether Vance supports President Trump’s vision!
It’s a good question, but at some point we need to trust Trump’s instincts. He’s not the same man as 2016. Like all of us, we’ve learned a great deal about politics and people. My faith is first and foremost in God. I also believe President Trump’s life was spared. All things for a reason. I’ve had major doubts about Vance and admit he wasn’t my choice, but I support President Trump. If he feels Vance is his man… we need to unite and support the decision. I highly doubt President Trump is going to be mislead at this point.
She never said that he stopped eating meat. She said that he got used to her being a vegetarian and that he learned to cook it.
He wrote Hillbilly Elegy 8 years ago, before he became a politician in Ohio He didn’t expect it to be a best seller.
Accusing him of being a Washington D.C. grifter is a huge lie.
“Yale is a moral cesspool.”
Me.
Long-time reader here. I believe this is my 1st comment. I share your fears that Vance’s book deal and movie were a similar set up to Desantis. I am not going to let that deter me from voting Trump 24 as we will be able to primary out all the phonies just like DeSantis. Trump threw Thiel a bone to get over the finish line. Without the election integrity Trump promises on Day 1, we won’t have a chance to vote in 2028!
As far as Vance, it sounds like he doesn’t try as hard as Ron! to hide his true self. This is what the podcast host at Pints with Aquinas recalls about Vance looking for publicity but not having any interest in sharing his faith journey. Not a good look!
http://youtube.com/post/Ugkx8AM97kCABFwJK8VUxQ2BqDwiUGP1YdeA?si=pYo8zQBsyOq2C6W3
You forgot the over 100k from AIPAC, and his venture capital company having invested in mRNA.
Not to mention in his very first appearance on Fox, where he put forward the Uniparty position on let’s form a coalition and go get into a war with Iran. So, pro-Israel Lobby, and not against ending the endless wars at all.
Just gathering dots.
So you believe the US should not have intervened after Iraq invaded Kuwait?
You oppose PDJT’s strong pro-Israel positions?
You can be for the Israeli people but against its DS, racist, Greater Israel, Kahanist, anti-Christian current leadership.
And if New Zealand had a minder for every congresscritter and was throwing its weight around and going after American congressmen who dared say so, and bragging on its record of 80 plus percent success in electing pro-New Zealanders, and having its dual nationals wear the uniform of the New Zealand armed forces in the halls of our nation’s Capitol while being paid on our dime, and grifting billions of dollars of American funds to send to New Zealand, I’d have a problem with that too.
And the invasion of Kuwait was just more Bush crime family grift. So, no, we definitely should not have invaded.
So you will not vote for PDJT because early on in his business career he supported many of the liberal democrats in NY? You feel he is a possible pedo because he appeared on an Epstein manifest once?
Let’s at least be consistent in how we label people by their histories. Cause, afterall, we’re all decent and fair.
Let the dynamic President Trump has set in motion play out. None of us can change that decision. The dice have been rolled as it were. Our job is to continue building support for the ticket – and to keep an eye on where it all heads in the event mid-course corrections need to be voiced.
Stop accusing me of things I have never said.
Interesting that you bring up such points as a method some folks would call transference.
And I am allowed my opinions and won’t be “shamed” from them. I’m not a sheep.
Completely agree
Retired Magistrate here: From a Southern Ohio hillbilliy Amen.
I grew up in Portsmouth, Ohio; what used to be a prosperous steel town and then foreign steel put the old mills out of business. After World War II, the US built new, more efficient steel mills in Japan which produced cheaper steel. As a result, the mills in Ohio, West Virginia and Pennsylvania could not compete and eventually went out of business.
Now Portsmouth is a drug infested dead town on the Ohio river, just like a lot of other former steel towns on the Ohio river. So Vance isn’t polished; he spoke from the heart. Yes, at first he didn’t like President Trump and made some stupid comments about him. As an Ohioan, in my opinion, he has changed. When he was elected Senator he hit the ground running and has done quite a bit for the citizens of Ohio since he has been in office. I certainly have made some very stupid mistakes in my life and thankfully people have forgiven me.
Give Vance a chance. Anyone who has worked that hard to get where he is, is not going to blow a great opportunity like President Trump has given him.
He seems manufactured to me ma’am. Too “storybook” for my taste to borrow a phrase from the “Incredible Husk”..
gosh! do you need a tissue? good bit of weeping and wailing coming from you lately?
But is that you or him? Truth is probably somewhere in between.
I am being paralyzed in slow motion without insurance from my years playing youth football and working construction after dropping out of college to help an ailing family member.
I was ethanol challenged for 24 years and was nearly killed by opioids that I took as directed in order to work and raise my family.
Any white male under 60 that can walk upright a few days a week will be laughed out of the public assistance office by Democrats and Republican’ ts tell me to get back on the pills and go back to work even though they mean certain death by pancreatitis.
My savings are rapidly evaporating from Bidenflation and DeSantis “Californicating ” my birthplace of Florida. Is that real enough for you?
Your radar is correct sir!
Give Vance a chance.
Good idea. Common sense. That means it’ll be ignored for sure.
I have serious doubts about him myself. But I also realize that those doubts that I have come from my most strongly held beliefs, and that while it is my inclination to doubt and mistrust those who choose differently, it does not make them wrong, or bad.
My choices are my own, and cannot, should not, be forced on others.
So, I’ll watch Vance with caution, and with hope. And I’ll do the same to myself, because I’m opinionated and self absorbed, and my own motivations always bear scrutiny.
And the choices I make today? They sure are different from every decade in my past. I am not who I used to be. Thank God. That’s partly because I was blessed to have had some men and women, like Donald Trump, who were capable of being powerful influencers in my life, and took time with me.
JD Vance now has that choice and opportunity. Let’s see if he takes it.
but do we have time for that? That is my worry. My husband reacted viserally when his wife said she turned him into a vegetarian. He was like …………. WTH. I am more worried for me and my country that giving him an opportunity to prove himself. I stand by my belief he’s a bad pick, he’ll not carry one voter with him,
Showing up without a flag pin…and Don, Jr you should be ashamed as well. Those boys AlwAYS had their pins on. Did Usha talk them out of it? I question both of their allegiance now as well. They are raising boys in America but are they raising them as Americans or who? I have grave concerns.
“…but do we have time for that?”
God knows…
Remember last Saturday.
And I’m praying. Daily.
She didn’t say she turned him into vegetarian. She said he learned to cook vegetarian – please people calm down!
Thank you for making that point.
My daughter USED to be a vegetarian and her husband, who LOVES meat and is also a gourmet chef, prepared vegetarian meals for her. For the rest of the family, he prepared lots of meat. Often gets out his smoker and prepares chicken, ribs, etc for the entire neighborhood. He’s a great guy, very sociable, and loves to cook for other.
He finally convinced her, because of nutrition, to try meat and she is not longer a vegetarian.
He still prepares special meals for her since she is on an anti-inflammatory auto-immune diet.
I think JD Vance’s cooking for his wife, speaks very well for him. He loves her!
I think he is rough around the edges and not prepared for the National stage. Who would be prepared for that except a seasoned politician? President Trump will be able to mold him. He wants to help the working class of America. He seems to be a fast learner and wants to be a great VP. He is not a person that gives up or gives in, he rises to the top. He will look at President Trump as a father figure and learn from him.
Grew up about 45 minutes from where JD did. Earlier, but saw the same devastation to the well distributed prosperity. Ohio was probably the most middle-middle class community in the country. You knew your neighbors who filled all the jobs – from police to HS teacher to small business owner to minister to doctor. Sweated in the warehouse jobs in summer heat
Went East to college, worked white collar in NY City – saw the disdain with which the heartland was held. Came back to Ohio. Am every bit as focused on the rebuilding of community as JD focused on that in his speech.
So an example, I knew little of PDJT when he “came down the elevator” except that he was a NY billionaire celebrity who ran some silly TV show. My initial response was – well, guess he’s trying to generate some more public celebrity. I had seen the NY self important types scorn the “unsophisticated.” Changed to “write his name-in supporter” by the time of the vote, but I had the advantage of having seen and worked with those in NY who grew up in, for example, Queens – who were neighbors and who cared. It took JD longer to share the trust – after all, he no doubt saw the snotty types at Yale. Do not blame him for that.
Stop the endless wars, bring back the manufacturing and making of things, and demand that those who come here commit to this country and its community, culture, and patriotism. The message Vance focused on.
Marcia – thank you for your comment. Most appreciated. and to you as well Lokiscout.
thank you Marcia, your opinion as an actual constituent of senator Vance goes a long way.
i will now open my textbook to the chapter on “practical politics”, and re-read as necessary! 😁
Like I said in a previous comment, PDJT will not take any BS this time around like he did with Pence.
you can’t fire the VP
But you can put him in the basement office if necessary. PDJT can make him persona non grata in a nanosecond.
True, but you can shove him into the background and keep him there. I trust PDJT to do that if necessary.
Was DeSantis the right choice at the start? We sussed him and now the UNIPARTY has given US no time at all to suss this guy, why??
Trump could have announced him ages ago; but not until the very last minute, does that raise a hair on your grassroots neck??
It’s all too pat, and I don’t like pat being part of PATRIOT.
This crowd seems to find a disqualifying flaw in everyone. With that approach, there won’t be anyone. Vance may be okay. I’m as wary of him as Noem or DeSantis, or Burgum or any of the other possibles. Thank God he didn’t pick Rubio though.
Ultimately if he survives and manages to get elected, this will be up to Donald Trump. Even more important than our economic policy is systematically excising the leftist cancer occupying our bureaucracy. But even Trump won’t be able to do much without some help in congress.
We’ll see. But hopefully Trump has learned to keep the Veep at arms length. Vance’s wife gives me bad vibes. Lawyer, San Francisco, Asian, Female, Yale. That’s an easy no from me.
I’m 50/50 on Vance.
He has a good story and it’s admirable. Most in his situation, stay there and die there.
But I admit I am skeptical.
Frankly, I just don’t have enough information to form a solid opinion.
I suppose I’ve been burned too many times.
The Uni-Party is big and strong.
I don’t believe there are 20 people in the House and Senate combined who are their own men/women.
Tack away Lokiscout, you are correct. This pick – besides Sen. Vance being a good and decent man – is about long-term prospects for the Republican party and America as it should be, not this demented debacle we have currently (just listen to the vile rhetoric on that side of the chasm only a few days after “The Attempt”, including The Husk screaming his brand of mental in Vegas to a minuscule crowd of adoring Kool-Aid drinkers.)
I cannot – from my cheap seat – judge PDJT’s Vice President pick because I simply cannot know what he knows, and he is absolutely more savvy in this arena than his prior run. Nitpicking is not worthy in the short-term, especially considering the potentially life-altering events leading up to Sen. Vance’s speech (which was terrific). The opposing side is evil, they hate America and We The People. Our side is glaringly the opposite. We are at a turning point in this country…long time coming….we need younger confident people to carry the torch after Trump’s second term (God willing).
Eph 6:11 comes to mind…which happens to be the time Trump was shot and almost murdered by The Swamp. (Yup, saying it here, what else could it have been? They are falling all over themselves to cover it up. It certainly was not some limp-wristed 20 yo with a rifle who the authorities knew was there and who also knew that particular roof was clear. The narrative is crumbling…they know it, and they know we know.)
If you try for the king you’d better not miss.
SISU MAGA
Excellent comment! TY
JD-a man who can check all the boxes but never got his feet wet in any of them except perhaps a rough childhood.
He was tagged , he agreed, and was pushed right up the system by those running America. One of tens of thousands waiting in the wings.
Yep.
How do you REALLY KNOW?
I happened to be working in the room where my husband was watching Fox News interviewing Dr. Carson shortly before President Trump officially announced JD Vance as his VP pick.
Now, it was strange because Dr. Carson said that President Trump discussed VP with him and he told the President that JD Vance would be a better VP than he would and there was another position in his Administration that he was interested in.
Dr. Carson then went into detail on the virtues of JD Vance that many were not aware of.
I was surprised.
Shortly thereafter, President Trump officially posted on Truth Social, Telegram, etc. his reasoning for choosing JD Vance.
That was good enough for me since I have no idea what the future holds.
Keep praying.
Thank you.
This helps me..
I like and respect Ben Carson, he is a good honest Christian and would be a great addition to the administration. Frankly in his speech he seemed tired. I think Vance will be a very effective campaigner and will have Trump’s back as well as ours. I know Mike Pence and JD is no way Pence.
I totally agree with you. More commenters here need to adopt your pragmatic viewpoint.
Vance struck me as a very bright, down to earth, humble man. He achieved what he has this far in life through character, hard work and determination.
Kudos to him for rising above the poverty, violence and substance he grew up in, to becoming the accomplished, outstanding man he is today
I think Vance will be a huge asset to President Trump, and he will be the future of the MAGA movement.
I am so glad to see 220 commenters (as of this writing) agree with you! I remember the first time I came on this board, I voiced a mere “concern” about Donald Trump. Sundance stomped all over me for being a ‘concern troll.’ (new term I hadn’t heard before then). He educated me about this board, said everybody here was all in for Trump. Of course, as I learned more about Donald Trump, I was all in for him too. Still am. I love the guy. Best president in my lifetime. But now: Sundance has pronounced JD Vance a bad pick. But we don’t all have to agree in order to be allowed to post on this board, do we? I like JD. I wanted to want Dr. Carson since Sundance thought him the best choice and I know Sundance knows what he’s talking about more than ever I could; still, Dr. Carson is old, and very soft-spoken to the point of putting me to sleep. Sorry. But it’s true. I just cannot see Carson as the man of the hour, or a man of power. Vance, I can see. And for sure: Trump!! (p.s. Did you notice when he raised his fist at the Butler PA rally, he automatically put his thumb inside his clenched fingers — this is what you do when you’re ready to punch somebody out. Most people put their thumb outside their fingers and have to remember the ‘fighting fist grip.’ I loved seeing Trump do that.
He’s got a son named Vivek!!!
And this is relevant because …?
Old English Colony family name?
Because “Vivek” means “Wisdom” and we can always use a lot more of that.
His wife Aisha is “dot” Indian, so the name is appropriate. Can we use more wisdom? Don’t answer, it’s rhetorical for those of you in Rio Linda!!! Hat tip to Rush.
Sorry, Mr. Autocorrect invaded my comment. The wife’s name is USHA..
USHA, Aisha, dothead, raghead, all the same…
Your comment is not nice at all.
What they’ve been doing to our country is far less nice than me telling the truth about them.
Because people don’t understand what inductive fallacies are.
Speaking of Vivek. Headline on another site reads, “ He Would Be Amazing’: Ohio Republicans Float Possible J.D. Vance Replacement For Key Senate Seat.” And the replacement being pushed is none other than Vivek. What a terribly incestuous relationship being foisted upon us.
He’s from Ohio? Don’t you have to be from a state to at least initially be elected as US senator for said state?
Yikes. Roboslimy gives me the creeps. Long on fact retention, short on humanity.
Good grief can we stop with the “Vivek” meltdown already!! It is a COMMON name in this country! It’s like freaking out over someone’s daughter named Nancy.
So???
I loved the bit about Mamaw’s 19 loaded handguns! He comes from a family of characters. God bless his grandmother!
You know how we learned how blacks keep lots of money hidden in the house (Fah-ni) and how apparently one Latino (Menendez) kept gold bars? We have an arsenal. Any questions?
In his book, she was a hoot.
That’s all it was a ” bit”..
I find it relatable. I cleaned out handguns I didn’t know about (my Mom insists we didn’t find them all) and a machete under the bed.
No American flag lapel pin and a blue tie 🧐🤨🤔 What could go wrong???🧐🧐🧐
Honestly, the lack of a lapel pin and a blue tie equal some hidden agenda? Lack of love for the US and Trump? Ridiculous
The planned ascension, another Yale guy, a book deal, Ron Howard buying movie rights and bringing it to Obama’s Netflix.
You are right it just a blue tie….I wonder if the color blue hides the strings better?
Subtly reaching out to people who have voted Dem for years. Read the tea leaves!
Pence me once, shame on you. Pence me twice, shame on me
Maybe they want to bring back the original symbolism of blue….trust, loyalty, full of grace. While red means commie, death… if I am not mistaken the dems forced red upon the republicans.
Yes, I’ve never been comfortable with that, and I’m definitely not an Alabama fan!
BINGO!!! WINNER, WINNER CHICKEN DINNER!!!
We went from true blue to Communist red. I remember that!!!
What could go right??
You called it, Sundance. Now I will sit back and count the number of people who grudgingly admit that you were right.
Have a feeling there will be a lot of them in the next few years. 😕
I HOPE SO. And that is my prayer. That this works out for the BEST. For THE PEOPLE.
But then, as I like to remind.
there ARE NO WHITE HORSES COMING TO SAVE US.
WE ARE THE WHITE HORSES. YOU, ME, That Guy, That Woman, Those young people.
That is what is going to save US.
Political champions are absolutely crucial to realize the transformation and returns to sanity in this country. But ultimately, WE ALL NEED TO ADJUST OUR EXPECTATIONS AND DIAL OUR ENERGY TOWARD DECADES OF WORK TO ACCOMPLISH THIS.
4 years terms and the Corruptors who throttle 4 year terms must be seen for what it is. an illusion that our votes will make a difference in the long run. We can’t afford to be making that horrible and tragic false gamble again.
Have we not been fooled enough already?
Yes, this is me being very optimistic. I DO BELIEVE this is possible. Stage 4 – transfer of power doesn’t happen over night. It’s slow, and then it just rushes in. We are far from measuring justice to the Corruptors. Until that happens, we have a formidable enemy and for the most part, that enemy resides FREE in our minds.
the number you see is a just 3900. Three thousand, 900 people. That is the enemy. That is command. That is where we can take the fight. And when that happens. EVERYTHING CHANGES.
God Bless America
I think we all have to realize that no one will shine as bright as our beloved Donald J. Trump…There is no one who can compare to him…lest perhaps a son (Don Jr.)…It’s pretty difficult to look beyond his (Hopefull)2nd term and say this person or that person can carry DJT’s torch…He’s one of a kind. He’s the true renewer of hope for our country…for our time. We have to be brave and take that hope beyond Trumps time and be fearless, as he’s taught us…For now, let’s just get him into office and enjoy the ride…So much can happen within these next four years…Trump has given us hope. God bless him.
I don’t have much of an opinion as to whether Vance will be a good or bad VP. I don’t know if he’ll be trustworthy or not. I do know a couple of things.
With all love to President Trump, he clearly hates to be upstaged. He’s a speaker who plays to his crowd, and they are his crowd. He would hate Vance if he perceived him to be doing the same.
If I were his choice of partner in this endeavor of saving our country, I would understand that my most important task was making President Trump more effective, and in, assuming he was right, supporting him. Minimizing friction and unnecessary conflict would help. Therefore, I would try to be a good, effective speaker, but not in the style or manner of President Trump.
And I know that, if I’d made it to that level, to that opportunity and moment, I’d have confidence in who and what I was. I would know that people would pick me apart, and that’s the easy part. The hard part would be knowing what I’d be subjecting myself and family to in the way of threats and real danger, lawfare, and just plain tough way of living.
In that case, I wouldn’t too much care about the thousands of people who have time to sit behind a keyboard and rip me apart for not being a Trump clone.
Thanks Menagerie. Well said. I don’t know why people are expressing so much negative energy towards Vance. That’s sad for them. I liked him although he spoke too long. He’s young but I know people around his age who are really excited to see someone their age rising to this position. Somehow I have a feeling that’s one of the reasons Trump selected him.
Oh and by the way he is a converted Catholic. His conversion was 5 years ago so I hardly think his wife is dominating him. Hey all you good Christians please show some love hope and charity to this good man.
He is fake – just like Rubio
“I don’t know why people are expressing so much negative energy towards Vance.”
Only one other person dared to post this concern, so I’m now the second:
The guy is, as the saying goes, a heart beat away from the Presidency. Vance is 39 years old without much experience in politics. If something “happens” to President Trump, is Vance the best choice to be in the Oval Office? Can Vance negotiate a peace between Ukraine and Russia? Would he deport all the illegal aliens? Would he follow a MAGA agenda?
I understand how he may very well bring in the votes to negate cheating. I understand how he may, and probably already has, brought in big tech money. What gives me pause is — was he in fact the President’s choice, or was Vance foisted upon the President? If the latter, in exchange for what?
I hope like hell a fly doesn’t land anywhere near him during any debate.
I sorta had the same initial thought: the ticket only needs one person who aggressively voices the message; one dominant personality type.
All this projection seems a bit premature to me. 2028 will present its own challenges. No one will be forced to vote for JDV in primaries. Let’s see what the man can do; what he stands for.
It’s a done deal. *****ing and moaning seems rather futile IMO. He has to respond to the forces that gird the MAGA universe – not the other way around.
There will be some seminal moment where he is defined.
My issue is not his lack of Trump cloneness. My issues are his egg mcmuffin ways, his 2 degrees of seperation from the lincoln project, his funding, his venture capitalism into big pharma including with a company that has contracts with moderna, and his ties to the intelligence community.
Those are some issues I have too. I’m just advocating not having a totally closed mind, which I did with more elaboration below.
By all means expand upon your accusations. When Vance left law school, do you believe he was looking for a lucrative job to pay off his $120,000.00 college loan or do you think he was just going to scratch his ass and wait until such time as Donald Trump ran for his second term as President to appoint him VP? I hate to tell you, but you left out one of the big boogy men in your comment. Surely, you can find out that Vance at least interned for Vanguard.
And Cornyn
One standing ovation from me to you Menagerie!! God Bless you !!
Truth. Cometh the hour cometh the man. For this hour (I.e, time in history) Trump is that man.
He has made straight paths for the people and it will be up to them to stat on that path.
I have always abided by my grandpa’s wise words of “living in hopes”. Any time I would be worried or frightened of the future his words assured me. He was simple “ mountain folks” but wise. It gets me through these times.
I just watched it.
Not the genuineness of VSGPDJT! Can the young apprentice learn?
Sarah Palin’s was a million times better. She motivated me to vote for McCain because I was really voting FOR her. I was hoping she’d one day BE POTUS.
After watching this, I cannot say the same. I was really hoping I’d see the same passion and love for our nation. Hopefully he has other strengths. I hope this is a Sr. pick and not a Jr. pick.
Sarah Palin. Who can forget her?? She was/is great. She got my vote too for a later promise that got stolen from her by the same despicable fiends President Trump has to deal with.
I seem to remember that McCain and his staff dissed Sarah, tried to keep her energy and enthusiasm down so she wouldn’t outshine the Maverick. POW notwithstanding, let’s not pretend he was a great man, just one full of himself who escaped the scandal of the Keating Five. As for running for President, the MSM quickly turned on him as he ran against Barry, the Pied Piper of our age.
Sarah really cared for him and supported him all the way. The way she was treated, I lost all respect for this McCain.
The little respect I had for disappeared after the election and they brought the guns against Sarah!
Remember how she wanted to campaign in Wisconsin? And Michigan? And the official campaign told her it was pointless? Hmmmm… look who’s winning MI and WI now? In the polls anyway.
The first time I ever voted for a Republican was when I voted for Sarah Palin in 2008. I held my nose and voted for John McCain because I loved Sarah. I think this is going to energize the party and I predict a lot of young guys are going to be voting for Trump because of the youthful JD.
That’s a possibility I hadn’t considered. I was just looking from my small lens. Heck – even if VSGPDJT had picked Hunter Biden, I’d still vote for VSGPDJT!!!
Hope he doesn’t get put in charge of bird flu jabs
Yes, because JD Vance has a conflict of interest as he has investments in the gene-therapy company AmplifyBio
https://leohohmann.substack.com/p/who-is-jd-vance
You’re barking up the wrong tree here.
Who supported Fauci during that rough COVID ride?
Expect the same should a similar crisis arise in the future PDJT administration? I don’t.
Double standards are not terribly appealing.
I don’t know if JDV is trustworthy or not. I do know he has been chosen. Wanking about it serves zero purpose. De-stablizing the base and constant sniping is not the path to success in an election. It is exploitable.
VPs are disposable. VPs can be shuttled off to nowhere ville in half a little lamb’s heartbeat. The trick here is to watch carefully who is hired into JDV’s staff; their backgrounds; the key advisers; how they integrate into the Trump political sphere. Their political philosophies, histories and aspirations. Their conduct.
This process has barely begun. Shoot self in foot doesn’t strike me as a good battle plan.
Let’s see what PDJT has in mind in the bigger scheme of things.
Ben Carson would have been my choice but I’m not Donald Trump. It’s his choice and that’s why I’ll stand with JDVance. This is a new beginning for all of us. We have learned so much in the last eight years and so has our President Trump. There’s a power much greater all of us guiding us through this battle of freedom. Have faith that Vance will join us in being victorious in this fight.
Tucker Carlson said all the right people in the D.C. sewer are against Vance. That’s a fairly good predictor.
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2024/07/romney_boils_with_loathing_for_trump_s_choice_of_running_mate_j_d_vance.html
It’s just as likely that Romney is just playing his part, getting the rubes to jump for an unknown, who has been funded by some wrong people. I do get it that Trump is cutting deals, but let’s ALL be cleareyed here… this is part of a deal. Vance is not paid to be our ally, and we’ll have to wait and see whether he’s an enemy… like Romney.
Perhaps Romney is acting his part – but Romney is just one of “all the right people in the D.C. sewer [who] are against Vance”. So let’s watch and verify.
What’s to verify? Vance takes cash from the wrong people, just like the Bushes, Romneys, Nimrata, the Meatball, and all the other cretins. Verify me if this leopard changes his spots. The others never have.
I don’t think that’s actually any kind of reliable predictor. The DNC-News-SocialMedia complex loses its mind over EVERY republican. They hated the VERY swamp-sewery George Bush & Mitt Romney. You’d have to probably look at the inept, egotistical, and utterly ineffectual swamp-creature McCain to find anything approaching any reaction short of “he’s literally Hitler.”
Vance in his own words, an except from Hillbilly Elegy, “I broached this issue with Mamaw, confessing that I was gay….” Now there is more but it gets explicit when Mamaw asked him if he likes performing fellatio.
I don’t care either way, but similar to Obama, this guy comes out of nowhere and is advanced. When JD was a relative nobody he is getting book deals and Ron Howard buys the movie rights from said book. This is the backup plan for the failure that was DeSantis. Once you see the strings…..
I got questions about 0bama being on the board of Netflix and they produce a video with this guy that gets released right before the nomination? So 0bama helped him get the street cred? That makes a bunch of sense.
Yale grad. Yale and politics leads to the secret society of skull and bones. Bushes all belonged to that SS.
Old Joe, thank you for that! I have been making this same analogy to Obama for a week now..does no one else see it? Book/movie, 1st year senator? …and oh, he is one smooth talker? sound familiar? They really don’t change the movie too much…
Until the past year-ish, anyone ever heard of JD? Much less as a future VP? I trust DJT has his own reason for picking him (elon, tech valley, etc). I also trust he will keep him on a short leash, but please people, let’s not blind ourselves to this literally coming out of no where…he may not have been the first IC choice (meatballs personality could not be overcome), but he was on warm up for sure….
Obama’s book had similar “maybe I’m gay?” revelations. Thats interesting, same ghost writer?
Obama didn’t go nearly as far as this dirtbag, at least not then, read for yourself about the degenerate and the kind of language the degenerate baggage he considers his saintly MawMaw used with him when he was a gender-confused pre-pubescent little turd (in his own words):
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/10548598-i-broached-this-issue-with-mamaw-confessing-that-i-was
WTF? That’s a problem. Anyway, I believe what Sundance wrote: https://nitter.poast.org/TheLastRefuge2/status/1813420837283717131
Spot on.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: a President Trump clone would be my choice for vice president. It’s not available, so I’ll remain realistic and hope for the best.
“If two people agree on everything, one of them isn’t necessary..”- Dr. Carson – “One Nation”
“If everyone is thinking the same thing, someone isn’t thinking.” — General George Patton.
You know what, I mentioned that above. My opinion is the only way you have a Trump clone is if you have a weak, empty shell with nothing of their own to contribute.
Those reverent stories about his filthy old baggage MawMaw including his confused perversity as a pre-pubescent little turd surely show what that weak, empty shell is filled with…
In his own words:
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/10548598-i-broached-this-issue-with-mamaw-confessing-that-i-was
Well, I repent all my words and hopes, based on all our pre pubescent perversities and weaknesses.
Menagerie, you’re a very good lady in the eyes of man and God.
Trusting God and being hopeful is a virtue, but when confronted by these kind of people in their own words, they are the ones who have to prove themselves as penitents from their reprobation.
There’s the old parable about the Righteous Man who saw a storm coming but thought it would be fine. Then the rains fell and started the flood waters rising, and the authorities warned everybody to evacuate, and he didn’t. Then he had to go up to the second floor of his house as the storm didn’t abate. Men in boats came offering to rescue people but he didn’t go with them. Finally as he was forced to the roof of his house, a helicopter dropped a rope ladder and he refused to take it. The waters rose and he drowned.
When he rose to the World of Truth, he questioned the Creator – “Was I not righteous”? The Lord answered him, “Yes, you were”. So he asked, “So why didn’t You save me?”
The Lord answered, “I tried. First the warnings, then the boats, then the helicopter. You wouldn’t let Me”…
We’re not talking about the same things at all. At all. Using an example of what a person was as a young teen, or even pre teen as a standard to condemn by absolutely disqualifies every one of us.
That righteous man is not an adolescent and our merciful God would not relate to him in the same way at all. And yeah, we can go into the fact that God is justice as well as mercy and love and all kinds of theological ideas. I am familiar with the Scriptures behind the ideas as well.
I am just saying that you did not make a good, or even fair, example to judge Vance, or anyone else by.
As I’ve said repeatedly on this thread, I have grave concerns about him, both politically, and in regards to some moral choices he’s made as a Catholic, and that hits very close to home for me.
Who I was as a young woman, an infant Christian, and a confused and somewhat rebellious and defiant new Catholic was not who I am now. Actually, for the most part, it wasn’t even good.
Yes, of course you’re right, it’s not the poor fellow’s fault that according to him, his father disappeared, his mother was a crack wh*re, his grandmother (turns out that’s MawMaw) was a degenerate, and his “life choices” have been for the most part, mighty queer, so to speak…
This fairly recent financial disclosure statement should prove to everyone, he’s cleaner than a whistle and only wants to serve the good people of the USA:
https://aim4truth.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/2021-11-24-JD-Vance-2021-Financial-Disclosure-US-Senate-Nov-24-2021.pdf
Let’s hope his devoted wife can help keep him on the straight and narrow.
Milked hanging out in the Tree. Only the truly just and perfect allowed here.
What a Great choice and a Great Guy!!!!!!
Saw some of the negative comments about the speech before I started watching on a delay of an hour or two. I was impressed, and don’t understand the negativity. God, guns, and the Bible got their due, Barak. For me the two highest points were putting the cartels on notice, and introducing his mother with the hope of celebrating 10 years clean from drugs in the White House in January.
What I like is how it only took him three years (not 40-50) to learn how the US Senate “does business.” That mittens Romney can’t stand him is one YUGE endorsement!
You sure about that?
Giant kudos to his mom, but look at the expression on President Trump’s face when Vance made that announcement.
He checks all the right boxes with regards to the “Great American Success Story”….as many before him have done, without the benefit of the GI Bill. He is not unique in that. But its a good marketing ploy.
I hope he does not disappoint. Am still feeling the ‘pain of being Pence’d’.
No Deep State/IC connections, and no “Bush Money” strings attached. We could do MUCH worse.
So what about no lapel flag. They are the FAKEST expression of patriotism possible worn proudly by WARMONGERS whose idea of patriotism is to send more young Americans off do die in a war they start in some obscure land on the other side of the world. Except for Nixon who wore it as a statement against anti-war protests no Presidents donned a flag pin before G.W. Bush. I personally wish President Trump would lose his. Make America Great Again and ditch lapel flags.
No.
I’d like to see Flag Ties worn by our politicians!
The Flag of the United States of America is not to be used in a way that denigrates it. Those ties are borderline cheesy IMO.
I am with you. It can be an affectation.
It shows respect for the country AND the flag…especially after 9/11 . Weird how Vance starts a new trend first night on stage, ditch the little pin that I think represents a part of our soul as we look for the American flag whereever we go.
In your opinion. In my opinion, a few men like President Trump wear it with meaning, to others it is an affectation. I myself, Patriot though I am, would not wear it. If you need a pin to judge me by, I’m not really going to meet your standards.
Wondering if the “no flag lapel pin” is a subtle form of protest? Like the paper clip worn to protest war?
Its a symbol we look for. Enough reason to wear it. After 9/11 more than ever. Never diss the American Flag
We need to put everything in God’s hands. He’s got this! Just an ever so slight tilt of the head.
As Saint Padre Pio said, “Pray, hope, and don’t worry.”
I am still getting vibe of Elle’s bf Warner in Legally Blonde from this guy!!???
That’s fiction; this is real life!
If one accepts the premise of a Commander in Chief, it seems to me that he (and his team) has taken the counsel of those who would be heard, with valid points, even to the point of insolence. He has now taken his own counsel and made his decision. Seems to me that the time has arrived for STFU, salute, and move on to the objective.
President Donald Trump has given JD Vance an incredible gift – a chance to become a great American leader.
Vance has been given an opportunity to mentored by a great American leader and genius level strategist, entrepreneur, thinker and lover of our nation and its hard-working citizens.
Many people given the same gift during hiss first administration have disappointed and even, like Judas Pence, betrayed President Trump and US citizen/voters/election system.
Let’s hope JD Vance is not among them. Vance has a chance to be a hero or a traitor. It’s his choice.
Let’s hope Vance chooses wisely and for the good of our country and her people.
Pence 2.0 He doesn’t hunt, fish, eats no meat. I will not use the word but he is ***** whipped without a doubt. Usha runs the show. She didn’t even know to get her hair out of her face till 5 minutes in. She’s the liberal power broker here….think Uma …Hillary’s aid.
Not using the word does not make your comment acceptable or appropriate. Don’t use the language either.
Comments like this are indicative of how low this Treehouse has fallen.
To be fair WVGal is using much more tame language than Mamaw and Vance use. I would say, according to the language and perversions in his book, he does nothing to elevate us.
If Mamaw (I do know she’s dead, BTW) and JD choose to post here, I’ll expect them to abide by our guidelines.
I recall that most true conservatives were very skeptical about Donald Trump in 2015/2016. His two biggest mistakes were Pence and Sessions. We were happy with those choices until we weren’t.
President Trump now knows who to trust and whom to ignore.
President Trump knows a lot more from the inside about people.
The apostle Paul was the biggest enemy for Christians until he literally “saw the light” and did more than any one person to spread Christianity.
As for last night, Peter Navarro and Donald Jr. were theist effective speakers.
Let’s layoff the criticism of JD and his wife. He’s been a great senator. There are very few of those.
Your words make sense, but no one will heed them. Our side is too invested in purity tests.
He may or may not prove out. We need to be cautious, observant, and vigilant. But making dumb assumptions is none of those things.
I agree. I could not stand Trump in 2016. I kept yelling at the TV for him to shut up so I could hear the others speak! I was all in for Dr. Ben Carson. I cried when he stepped out of the race and endorsed Trump. Then Dr. Carson said that there was a side of Trump that was not what we see on mainstream TV. I trusted those words and have become an unshakable supporter of Trump. Ben Carson knew Trump very well. There are many like me. I hate it when I hear people say if you didn’t support Trump from the beginning, you aren’t true MAGA. It’s infuriating.
I think a lot of replies are evidence that peoples’ trust has been abused so much that they pretty much don’t believe in anything except God. It’s the snarling reaction of a dog that has been consistently beat. In my opinion it’s best to say your peace if you think it contributes, then limit the replies. Some people think they always have to have the last word.
Maybe, but we aren’t snarling dogs. We have brains and I expect them to be engaged. Good comment.
but we don’t have time for him to prove himself. That is the worry. President Trump has 4 years. With Pence 2.0 at the helm all the work……………the fact that he almost gave his life…………well, a bad decision could be his legacy. Vance didn’t sway a voter last night, it is the facts. I’m sorry if we have to disagree with each other. I’m nearing the grave I hoped to see the country headed towards a Trumpiam future. I get almost sick thinking of Pence and what he did. I don’t want to go through that again. A cabinet member whose loyalty can be questioned is one vote from a 25th amendment.
Vance didn’t sway a voter last night, it is the facts.
And you know this how? I am not in the Vance camp. I have doubts, plenty of them. But making unsupported, unable to be supported statements like this does what for us? You simply do not have the right to speak for every person who saw that speech last night.
You want to put words out there for JD Vance, speak absolutely to his character and motivation. Okay, I assume then that you are open to the same being done to you. Let’s play that game.
What you are saying is that President Donald Trump is an idiot. He has no sense of judgement, can’t see what’s right in front of his face, and has brought the Trojan horse into our living room.Ergo, Trump is no more trustworthy than Vance.
Sundance has clearly stated his positions and opinions and given damned good reason, logical reasons. He’s also used, IMO, a reasoned tone that still holds some opening for hope for the best.
A good example to follow.
The downfall of our side –purity tests and absolutes on singular issues that override the big picture. The strength of Their side is absolute unity no matter what as long as it advances the agenda. Will we ever learn?
From my experience and impressions as an admin, not ever, I think.
Well said my brother! He without sin among you, let him cast the first stone. I’ve been a follower of Sundance since 2016. The negative comments on this post are disgusting and truly disappointing. If ever there was a time for all of us to come together, it is now. Stop the bitching. Don’t like the pick? That’s your right, but this is not the time or the place to criticize President Trumps choice. He has earned the opportunity to pick his VP and I will stand besides both of these men to my death. Enough. Suck it up and move on. We’ve got a war to win and your criticisms are not helpful in any way. JMHO
It’s not the sin of every man that most are objecting to. It is the outright appearance of strings and a production behind Vance. Fooling ourselves based on what we want and not what is. That has been our problem as a party for a long time. Our desire for goodness gets exploited time and time again. I promise you will see it soon.
Trump is not good at political hires. To used to being able to just fire or move at will as a business person.
Another pick that will come back to haunt him imo.
You sure about that?
His economic team, His HUD team, his middle eastern negotiating team, His Nafta rewrite team, His Boarder wall team, ??
Its easy to just accept the common threads of the day but under the microscope they fall apart. Pence was chosen by the RNC. Vice Presidents are flack catchers and Funeral representatives. I doubt anyone saw pious Pence passing judgement over an obviously rigged re-election. Haley was sent off to obscurity and resume fluffing land at the UN.
Sessions was not just his pick the “possum” was the pick here as well. Same was true with “T-REX” until he wasn’t Politicians are two faced sociopaths and they are good at it. Get use to it and assume their “use by date” far exceeds their shelf life.
Cautiously optimistic after watching Vance’s speech, but maintaining prudent ambivalence.
The Peter Thiel is very concerning; and Vance’s rise seems just too fast, as if there’s been some mysterious hand behind him – once out of school, never more than at one thing for more than a year or two.
That said, he will help Trump appeal to folks that might not otherwise be inclined to vote for Trump. We need every vote we can get to beat the (illegal alien / dead and otherwise ineligibles) inflated voter rolls, mules and machine algorithms.
His speech just transferred the Democrats’ age-old (albeit false) sales pitch that they’re the party that will look out for “working people” to the Republicans. Full stop. When was the last time a Republican so openly took-on Wall Street and banksters?
Also, his poor background and family history will make that White boy relatable to many Blacks and Hispanics.
His voting record in the Senate is very good.
We’ve been burned so many times … most times. He may be one of those hyper-ambitious sociopaths who cover it with an “awe shucks” demeanor, and has been spouting just what Trump / Don Jr. want to hear.
On the other hand, he’s got the potential to be the real deal. We can’t say that about Ronald Reagan’s VP pick Bush. Nor even about Pence – he was touted / sold for his Evangelicalism when his background with the “intelligence community” and his accepting the Obamacare Medicaid sham while Indiana Governor raised big red flags.
I’m willing to TRUST Vance for now, but will be watching him for the BUT VERIFY. In any case, JOB #1 is getting Trump back.
I’m with you on this. I would like to know more about the Peter Thiel connection. Clearly, Vance was helped along the way. Nothing wrong with that necessarily, just concerning. Right now we go with what we have, and pray for the best.
I believe his first job was in San Francisco where he worked for Peter Thiel. Thiel also financially helped Vance when he decided to run for Senate from Ohio.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jd-vance-trump-vp-peter-thiel-billionaire/
Long game played.
This substack article – “America! The Movie (Screenplay by JD Vance) is not encouraging, but it should be read, nonetheless.
I actually think JD did a good enough job as far as the speech. I am not good at public speaking even in small group settings. I am much better at writing. JD seemed a little nervous in my view. Not in a very obvious way, but in a way I recognize. The speech was carefully written, this was a huge stage and I can relate. So he seemed genuine as far as the words go. Better to listen to him than to the lying, smooth-talking Mr. O.
“You will know them by their fruits”.
God has His plan. He will use imperfect people, because that’s all He has to work with. My trust is in Him and Him only.
Vance called out Biden and made a hash of his 5 decades in office. Just what we need–somebody who’s not afraid to tell it like it is. Just like Trump. The AMerican people have been LIED to and now we’re on the right path. And Harris will appear to be a cognitive mess once she tries to tangle with JD. God Speed. This is a dream team ticket.
mass psychosis is correct. When this cat speaks he looks like jeb!.
And when he writes, he goes beyond the Obama, that halfrican moslem sodomite, see for yourself:
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/10548598-i-broached-this-issue-with-mamaw-confessing-that-i-was
A couple of reminders here. People here have very different opinions. Disagree, debate, strongly stand behind your ideas, but be prepared to do it with logic and supporting information.
Accusing someone who disagrees with you of being a troll, or new here is just weak sauce.
We are having a lot of first time commenters join in here. Some will contribute good things to our conversation. Every one of you made a first comment at one time.
That being said, if you are new, I strongly advise you to read our comment guidelines up at the top of the page. Violations are what get most people, plenty of them who’ve been here and know better, moderated or banned.
So many want to do that first out of the bat. Disagree with them and BAM you are a troll and you get reported.
If they ever remake the movie The Outlaw Josey Wales, Vance could be Captain Fletcher. Or, shave the beard and be Dean Wormer in Animal House. He resembles the actor John Vernon.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075029/mediaviewer/rm314126592/
We must acknowledge a milestone event here, that Trump has crossed a threshold. He’s taking cash from oligarchs, with strings attached. Vance is one of those strings.
From 2015 on, Trump bragged about not being paid off, and refusing to accept the compromises that would come with those payoffs. He spoke candidly, that all the hate and impeachments would vaporize, if he just took the cash. In Mexico, there’s an old saying to politicians, “You can take the silver or you can take the lead.”
Just so.
So we’ve crossed a threshold. Note it.
Hey, it’s a brilliant deal he cut, his most consequential ever. They delivered Biden’s head on a platter. Trump has it in a jar on his bookshelf, and is gonna walk past Biden’s headless corpse into the Oval Office.
But, we have crossed a threshold, haven’t we? Trump knows it, too. The results of this deal are to come.
Personally, I cannot believe people taking issue with a lack of an American Flag lapel pin, and a blue tie. The likes of Schumer, and scores of other TRAITORS wear American Flag lapel pins all the time! BIDEN wears a pin! Do I consider any of them as real Americans??? NO! Yet, they unabashedly wear their pins as if they give a damn about this country.
Calm down.
The lack of it regardless … IMHO makes me think less of him. But that is me. Maybe he forgot. But Don Jr would not forget. God forbid we learn down the road that we’ve made a huge mistake, but not over a flag pin but ….well….anyways.
I do not wear a wedding ring, yet one of the things I’d first identify as, and name as most important in my life, is wife. Does that mean those who see me and notice this should assume I’m an adulterer?
Vance didn’t wear his either.
Lapel pins don’t do a lot for me.
You need to vote for Trump even if you hate him and JD.
There is not another rational choice in this election.
Trump or Bust, 2024.
I have said it before and I will say it again.
We have no idea what deals Trump will need to make to get across the finish line. I don’t have a bone to pick with this guy yet. Perhaps he was picked to bring in the voters who need an excuse to give up their TDS.
Perhaps Vance was picked to get some big donors on board ( some of us smaller ones are approaching our limits monetary, or statutory, we don’t do bundlers). Perhaps he was chosen to stiffen Silicon Valley’s spine to resist censorship. Perhaps he was picked to “improve the SS detail”. Perhaps he was chosen to miraculously turn off the cheat and get congress and the senate republicans to not fall on their swords again. Perhaps Trump Just feels Vance and his team are right for what’s coming.
I don’t know and I don’t care his choice. We are in such a pile of dung here that he is free to use whatever shovel suits him and he can point and show me where to dig. I figure if GOD decided he was worth protecting then I am all in.
Flag pins? really? You know who else wears flag pins? SS assassins.
You’re so right on the “some of us smaller donors” have reached our limit on what we can afford to give.
Why is it the Dems will swear allegiance to really bad other Dems no matter what? They circle the wagons, hitch up their underwear (if they have any) and tighten their sus-spenders. Let us remember we haven’t won the election YET!! Let’s get positive, otherwise —–>#%!^7#*?#@!
I believe I get Sundance’s point, what does it say symbolically?
To be fair, and I’m not a fan of JD, but the lapel pins are used to identify those free to come and go by secret service. He and Don Jr, who I also struggle not to dislike as he comes across as a cry baby, wouldn’t require one.
I’m also a different character, I think our flag is overly plastered about. I despise seeing it applied to disposable items, clothing and ‘nick nacks’ that wind up in a drawer or junk boxes. I stopped making ‘flag boxes’ for retired military because I would find others discarded at yard sales/auctions once family passed away. I lost count of the number of US flags at a recent auction discarded about, one even being walked over till I picked it up. FYI, if you fly a flag, it either has to come down at dusk or be illuminated. Rules, they exist for everything.
The uniparty got smart when they realized that Rhonda had zero personality and appeal and replaced him with JD..same exact vibe….same person
Do you mean “Ronna” McRomney? Spot on. Same vibe.
They’ll get around to saving the country after they pick up their kids from LaCrosse practice.
How did our party become this? this is SOO antithetical to what I thought MAGA was LOL
If I would have had a “confidence builder” in JD Vance’s speech, it would have come from him admitting to being a “never Trumper”. Voicing why he was a never Trumper and what exactly about Trump he deeply protested against.
Then, he should have pinpointed and detailed his evolution into the support to be wiling to take a bullet for that man and directives from that man.
When somebody wrongs me – my deepest respect comes from a person contrite enough in Spirit to admit they were wrong, talk it out, and really apologize. Otherwise, I can “tolerate” them, but I will never TRUST them. I may even forgive them in my own mind, but I’ll never give them power over any important matters in my life.
I do not see that contrite Spirit in JD. I see a #2 with an agenda for the uniparty. Especially his dig at Usha that he married her $120k in debt with a cemetery plot in Appalachia – “look at me now honey, it just gets weirder” or whatever other frat boy remark he made.
I see a man who in times of trouble, will fall behind party lines and disappear into the night. Maybe take a few hundred mil with him on the way out the door.
JD Vance owes the American people an apology for trashing Trump and a solemn oath to serve no one but us. Kari Lake took that oath. Thomas Massie took that oath. Clay Higgins seems committed to that oath. Those legislators chasing Kimberly Cheatle around at the RNC Convention seem to have awakened to that oath.
It is the last I will say on the matter of JD Vance for VP. God help me, I hope I am wrong about him, Vivek, and Guilfoyle… I’m not a fan of this new version of the Republican party… same as the old version but with a whole lot more naivete.
Well said JWoo…so many people have said “I was a never trumper too”! when defending Vance…but they usually follow it with “I fell for what the media said” or they didn’t do their research…not so with JD..if you read what he wrote and saw what he said about DJT, it was based on a real dislike of DJT not of his policies…it wasn’t a skeptical view/a wait and see on his policies, it was a genuine dislike…say what you will but if you do your research and read and watch you will see that the man didn’t have a gradual change in heart of DJT, but it was a sudden one….somewhere in the 2018 time period….maybe when he realized this was the train he needed to hitch his star to…
“I see a man who in times of trouble, will fall behind party lines and disappear into the night. Maybe take a few hundred mil with him on the way out the door.”
You’ve got it. Vance is one of many in a long line third-string manchurians crafted by the deepstate and mockingbird media. A GOP version, quickly reprogrammed from never-Trump to pro-Trump. The establishment Republicans wants us to go back to pretending these empty shells are Patriots.
All the right words – no conviction. No sincerity.
Why is everyone so OK and quick to forgive being a never trumper and calling DJT Hitler? is it because of the Abused Conservative thing again?
Most of what’s running through the branches here are the same trolls who try and put lipstick on every pig that’s been to GOPe finishing school.
Despite watching the GOPe do everything its power to destroy Trump, some still people still believe, or desperately want to believe, we have a two party system. Some refuse to believe the entire American federal system could ever be controlled top down from the shadows of evil.
There is hope in what we see happening inside the RNC. Trump’s people put this platform together and all contenders have been dispatched. Yes, they forced a manchurian on the ticket. I will Trust Trump.
Oh for gosh sake then, I’m a troll. A Manchurian troll who wormed my way into being an admin.
Vance gave a good speech. He’s young, smart and accomplished. My take is he will be a valuable asset in Trump’s march to the White House.
Having said that, I would like to see him hook up with Trump Junior after the election and make draining the swamp a priority. Both Junior and Vance have the Right Stuff to both identify and weed out rogue bureaucrats.
You cannot plant your flag on the hill unless you win. With the industrial scale cheating there is no guarantee Trump will win and JD is the only candidate that improves those odds if even marginally.
Reading these negative comments on the treehouses, I wonder if I am watching the same convention. The RNC has put together a strong convention allowing many ordinary Americans to have their voices heard.
Republicans have long been characterized as being able to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Blue tie. No flag lapel pin. The horror! What next, Trump’s ear bandage is too big? Seems petty and beneath the moment.
Nothing about the deepstate machine is as it appears. When Sundance points us to a tiny opening, take a deeper look.
Trust me. My eyes are wide open when it the deep State shadow government. I am also a bit fan and follower of Sundance.
If Trump had picked Rubio I would be more concerned. I will admit I don’t know much about JD Vance other than what I see of him during senate hearings. From that I like what I see and hear. Time will tell.
For. Is though I just feel we need to unite Trump and Vance. Winning the election is priority at this point.
ditto
Bad aura to the dude. THAT is my knee-jerk, book-by-the-cover response.
To the flip…..I know nothing about him and did not watch any of the RNC stuff……..thus a deeper opinion is still in the reserve seats.
GUT FEEL says, “open that other eye while you’re sleeping”. Especially in the short run and especially due to the historical performance of politicians as a whole.
Trump picked him? Good for Trump, but need a list be populated of all the other turncoats picked by Trump?!?
Then again, I still sleep with one eye open on Trump as well.
I like Tucker’s analysis of why JD was a good choice. I agree with Tucker and think this will work out well!!
Instead of focusing on a flag pin not worn can we get back to the assassination attempt? This can’t be aloud to go unchallenged
The shorting of Truth Social stock just prior to the assassination attempt is damning IMO. That needs to be hammered . Those who participated are all complicit. And about the pin–My beloved Dr. Carson did not wear one for his speech either. And I don’t doubt his heart for one second.
WiseGuys (who broke the story of the Short on twitter) now says that an investment company in Austin did much of that shorting:
https://x.com/JohnnyTabacco/status/1813739145639968813
Thanks for this, I’m sharing with all my friends, plus some liberal pukes just to help their brains explode.
Thanks! This is starting to make since now.
Uh, there isn’t one
Precisely. That is the point.