A Russian person could not visit New York, Chicago and Los Angeles and then say they visited The United States and have an understanding of Americans. They might think they understand, but any American would giggle at the notion.
Conversely, the same is true in Russia. You cannot visit Moscow, St Petersburg and Kazan and think you have an understanding of Russians. However, if you give yourself time, join in the daily tasks and challenges of ordinary Russians, you can easily discover some of the deeper stuff that really puts context on life in the Russian Federation.
Perhaps what follows is a different perspective.
It took a while, but I finally figured out what this phrase “the fatherland” is all about.
Let me start by sharing another phrase that almost every American will find familiar, yet virtually every Russian asked has no reference to comprehend: “you work for us.”
When talking to a federal, state or local government official in the United States and saying, “you work for us,” everyone listening would completely understand your sentiment. However, in Russia that phrase is akin to asking a Martian for a canoe. This is the way to understand “the fatherland.”
Within Russia the social compact is organized around the premise (key word “premise“), that government is the father figure within a family – and all of the citizens are children. The government knows best. The state engages in all facets, systems and structures as if they are the omnipotent father who cares about the children.
The people of Russia generally accept this system. Generations and generations of compliant, well behaved, very structured and regimented ideology still permeates. The muscle memory is deepest in the psychological muscles that run through generations.
Oddly, this social compact is understood, but only understood insofar as the Russian people do not have any other reference point, or alternative system that would enable them to see the deficit in the oppressive system that surrounds them.
The average Russian knows the “West” is different but doesn’t really know why the social system they see outside their window seemingly operates with well-organized randomness. What is this efficiency within unbridled capitalism you speak of, and why would Americans be willing to give it up?
Karelia Russia, early spring ’24
♦ As stated previously, the level of social compliance within the fatherland compact is stunning. Some observers might brush off extreme lawfulness as a remnant of strict authoritarianism – decades of hardcore soviet influence. From that perspective, yes being an invisible “grey man” is safe; drawing attention to yourself can only bring the glare of Father. It is safer to be a generic sardine in a school of sardines.
Live within that system long enough, and it just becomes the natural way it is. It doesn’t matter what the uniform rule is, generally Russians act with extreme compliance.
Standing in line, waiting for the light at a crosswalk, standing on the right side of the escalator, remaining stoic, “cultured” and “not vulgar” in a subway or public venue, putting your trash in an often-changed public receptacle, appropriate (quiet) use of the cell phone, the odd lack of talking in just about any venue, all the way to accepting ridiculous outcomes as a matter of engagement with the fatherland bureaucracy.
The customs and norms circle around ordinary compliance and social acceptances, learned behaviors over time, and so they do. Note, in part this behavior pattern makes it very easy to spot a non-Russian. [That is also one of the reasons why I was careful about taking ordinary photographs, especially considering there are literally no tourists.]
From the 30,000 ft level, generally speaking, somewhere above 85% of the Russian population are compliant children, very well behaved with low expectations of anything in life that is not ordinary. That larger part of Russia accepts their malaise as just “life,” and they move along. The other 15% are part of the social strata (government worker or connected to a higher status), that affords them additional benefits.
St Petersburg, Russia – Spring ’24
Yes, there are definitely two castes or classes within the population, and this is a self-fulfilling prophecy, something the intellectual left in the United States will always deny. Totalitarianism is on the far-left side of the political continuum. Within that leftist system, a process the USA is working toward, there are ‘haves’ and ‘have-nots’ – or what is more familiarly called “elites.”
Have you ever visited Disney or a theme park in the USA where you can purchase a higher priced ticket to go into a “fast lane” at each attraction? The average price visitor stands in one long line, those who pay a much higher price get to skip to a much shorter line. In Russia, that’s the analogy for the general population engaging in everything; literally everything in their life from shopping to where they live, the better system experience is based on wealth & status.
♦ There is no part of this social system that an average American would enjoy in the long-term. Do not romanticize Russia. Edward Snowden gave up his best life when he made his hard choices.
Put simply, ordinary life as an ordinary Russian is just not easy. The concept of a social system structured around liberty and self-determination is unknown. Russians are not “free” people, not even close.
It is not uncommon to see police on foot, regular beat cops, on crowded streets stopping people and asking for “their papers.” I am told the people being stopped are clearly not native Russians; but honestly, I watched this take place several times, and they all look Russian to me.
As I walked in the crowd with my friends, I asked them, “Do I look Russian”, because I was not being asked for my papers.
The response was generally that I look “white”, and the people being stopped by the police were not white. However, again I repeat, everyone being stopped looked like a white Russian to me, so what do I know.
There were also a few seemingly random road checkpoints where you are stopped by police and asked for your papers when driving, or a passenger. This always made me nervous (and my friends, although they were embarrassed to admit it), and with my passport I was always questioned and checked closely (but never detained – except as previously noted in the airport).
On the overall social oppression aspect, yes there are signs the Russian government is trying to change, to figure out a middle ground. However, the default position of the social mechanism is set to strict control, oppressive govt and authoritarianism.
Step out of the sardine line, and you will end up regretting it – big time. Ordinary Russians do not want to step out of line.
The problem for the Russian government is the generational compliance system does not create forward-thinking, independent thinking or entrepreneurship at the scale needed (Western scale) to rapidly advance modern society or keep up with technological changes and advancements. The DNA of Russia is static, lacking innovation, and built on this system of compliance.
On one hand, too many grey people, not enough independent thinkers…. that appears to be part of the problem in Russia. Hence, the government has all kinds of financial and economic incentives for innovative Western tech people and businesses to emigrate. However, on the other hand the government likes the domineering social compliance aspect, so they face recruitment problems.
Socially, the extreme compliance creates unity, cohesion and lawfulness. However, that same permeating mindset chokes out innovation and independent critical thinking. The lack of home-grown innovation, meaning the people who actually think independently, means the industrial and tech business sectors must steal their ideas from other places. It is not accidentally the same in China. I think this is also why Russian hacking is so advanced.
The current/modern Russian government seems to hate the social wokeism stuff, within the “West,” more than they like innovation in a free-thinking capitalist society. As a consequence, Dear Father is not willing to allow his apples to fall away from the tree.
♦ The Western financial sanction regime against Russia has driven the Russian economy into a very close relationship with China, South Korea and larger Association of Southeast Asia Nations (ASEAN). The new automobiles in Russia are almost all Kia, Hyundai and then Chinese models. The Russians notably do not have many EVs; they are mostly standard internal combustion engines. There are some newer USA and EU import vehicles, but those carry the cost of the 3rd party brokers (super high prices afforded only by the elites).
The odd thing about the sanction regime is the invisibility of it, unless you are looking deeply. Sure, many western retail companies were forced to leave by Western political demand, but their products are still mostly available. I cannot visibly see any segment of the Russian economy where the sanctions are having a strong impact. Quite the opposite is true, and all outward appearances of the Russian economy look strong.
Again, in a general sense, because Russia lacks innovative capitalism, their infrastructure innovation is archaic and outdated. This does not mean the old infrastructure is necessarily broken or doesn’t work; it only means it is old and very odd to see. Russia spends a lot of time cleaning and maintaining its infrastructure, but large sections of housing developments and apartments are very old and look well past their use-by dates.
Analog is still everywhere; digital systems have yet to become mainstream. If you step outside the center-city tourist perspective, you enter the 1970’s or 1980’s system in the suburbs dominated by the sardine cans where people live. As a person who was born/raised like Huck Finn in Florida on the beaches, islands and backwater bayous, the stacked-up rows and rows of sardine can apartments is seriously wild and simultaneously “yikes.”
The sardine Russians enjoy their parks, and to be fair they have some really nice spring and summer parks to enjoy, provided and maintained by Dear Father. On nice weather days, the benches are full of people quietly talking to one another, enjoying the fellowship outdoors and generally being well cultured and exceptionally civil.
Random park in center city, St Petersburg, Russia
The well-mannered expectations of social rules, within the suburban and city park system, were explained to me, and I did not see a single reference of non-compliance or crude behavior anywhere – not even once. NOT ONCE.
Truthfully, it’s really weird how quiet and stoic the Russian people are when they are enjoying their recreation time. It’s like something out of a 1950’s pod-people movie, and after a while I found it to be very disconcerting, almost bordering on annoying for some reason.
— TheLastRefuge (@TheLastRefuge2) May 21, 2024
I woke up early and hiked up to that specific and beautiful hilltop in Kareila, Russia, just so I could record that train video. No one else was on the mountain. It was a cold and beautiful morning.
♦ Food and Diets – Russian people eat well, and generally you would say they eat healthy fresh food. Because he was apparently concerned about it at some point, Dear Father banned Canola oil in Russia as a food additive. Fresh foods are what the average American would consider “organic foods.” For those of you who grow in your own gardens, you understand what the food markets are like in Russia.
This is not to say Russians are “healthy,” because overall they might not be. Smoking cigarettes and heavy alcohol drinking are very visible, and the difference in appearance between a 20-year-old and a 40-year-old is striking; perhaps that’s why.
Good quality food is cheap in Russia. Everything you see on the counter in this picture (left) was purchased for less than $70. I transposed the prices that I would pay at my local grocery store in the USA, and I came up with around $150-$175.
Processed food prices in Russia (crackers, chips, candies, cereals) generally are about half of what you would pay in the U.S. However, on the fresh foods side (produce, fish, meats, dairy), the Russian prices are a fraction of the U.S.A costs.
[10 eggs for $0.50, bread $1, bananas $0.05/lb, salmon $2.00, head lettuce $0.50, berries less than $1, apples $0.45/lb, steak $2/lb, ground chuck $1.50/lb, etc]
A 30-mile cab ride is around $5 to $8, and gasoline costs less than $2/gal.
A typical “nice” restaurant meal for 2 people is around $15.00, and you can easily grab a burger and fries for $3/$4 at any fast-food place. The average rent for a 1-bedroom apartment (city or suburb) is around $300/mo. The average income of a middle class (blue collar) worker is around $1,000/month.
Those grab-n-go electric scooters and electric bicycles are well used in the Russian cities and cost around $1 for an hour (kinda cool, and yeah I used them).
Keep in mind, during the soviet era religion was essentially forbidden. As a consequence, the Christian calendar within economic life (something you don’t think about in the USA) was erased.
In the USA the typical work week, Monday to Friday 9-5 weekends off, was an outcome of Christianity in the economy. In Russia you can get a dental appointment at 8:00pm on Sunday, or a haircut at any random time of day. All of the private sector businesses operate based on paying customer needs, not the social economic history of church attendance or worship schedules.
You can open a bank account in Russia using a passport, you do not need to live in Russia to open a bank account. Almost everything in “modern Russia” is done through your phone number and apps. On the downside, I have no doubt Dear Father monitors all of the connected activity on the phone number.
FYI, there are no sanctions on telecommunications, and USA issued cell carriers operate reciprocity systems in Russia.
Instagram, Facebook, Rumble and all pornography sites are blocked on Russian internet, but people use VPN’s. However, before you think it’s big government remember, the number of sites blocked by Russia is less than the number of Russian web sites and domain IDs blocked by the USA govt.
If your Internet Service Provider (ISP) carries a Russian identifier, about half the USA websites will block it, including President Trump’s Truth Social platform. This happens in cell phone networks and targeted apps also. I find this to be very troublesome, because communication is critical to avoiding conflict. The “West” and Russia are building walls around their internet protocols making it harder for Americans and Russians to talk to each other. I do not think this is good.
♦ Healthcare – Russian healthcare is very cost efficient, and the system of healthcare itself is really cool. This is one element where you could say Russian outcomes easily exceed the USA. Healthcare for the average Russian is free; essentially, socialized medicine paid via taxes. However, yes there is a private sector healthcare system available for those who want to pay for extra stuff.
Dental is a good example to give you an idea of costs. You can get braces in Russia for less than $1,000 (generally $500). Standard dentists visit for cleaning around $20. That cost ratio carries throughout the general healthcare system that is remarkably modern, although if you need a specialized test like a CAT scan ($75), PET scan ($200) or MRI ($100/$150) you need an appointment at a govt institution (although, super-efficient timelines there too).
Within private sector healthcare, I’m told medical tourism used to be a big thing with people traveling to Russia for low-cost high-quality healthcare. I can see why. I went on several visits to healthcare providers, and the in/out efficiency within both the govt and private sector was impressive. You can also purchase just about all prescription medications (except narcotics classed meds) without a prescription at pharmacies (that are seemingly everywhere like convenience stores).
♦ The Russian Federation, at least through the prism of life as an ordinary Russian (generally middle class/worker class), is not really close to the portrayal that we see about it through Western media.
Russia is a beautiful country; it is massive and filled with natural resources. From the landscape beauty and natural resource perspective, it is similar to the United States in many ways, but the USA is better. Culturally, there is a big difference between the USA and Russia, some of the differences may be considered good, some of them not good depending on what point exactly we were discussing.
I can see how a very specific type of rugged individualist person may enjoy living in Russia more than the USA. In a place where you are disconnected from the modern world and far away from the urban city centers; you can do just about anything you want in Russia – yes, even beyond what is possible in the United States. However, on the aggregate, the ordinary life of the average MAGA American is far superior in quality than the ordinary life of the average Russian.
The opportunities to improve your independent life in the USA are present and within reach. Those same opportunities are not easily found as an independent person in Russia.
When the innovative DNA is triggered in a Russian person, they are inherently compelled by disposition and expressive need to leave the federation. That dynamic is the irony you will find buried deep under the surface, and for very obvious reasons it is the one dynamic the Russian government will not discuss.
If you were to ask me what is the “one thing” I think that will culturally change Russia, you just read what I think it will be in that prior paragraph.
Feel free to use this discussion thread as an ‘Ask Me Anything’ about my time visiting Russia, and I will try to answer as best possible.
Love to all….










Another very good reason to use a VPN, most preferrably one with a selection of overseas hubs.
Good ones run around $4-6 a month. I’ve tried PureVPN (based in the British Virgin Islands), Proton (Switzerland) and ExpressVPN (British V.I.), my present choice. I’m thinking about trying NordVPN (Panama). All of these have servers in 60+ countries.
Proton has a history of cooperating with the FBI. PureVPN and ExpressVPN are located in Five Eyes jurisdiction – who knows who some Virgin Islands entities might coooperate with, knowingly or not. Panama supposedly offers the best assurances of privacy.
PureVPN itself offers this comparison (there are many others):
https://www.purevpn.com/blog/comparison/protonvpn-vs-nordvpn/
I’ve used Mullvad for a long time. Based in Sweden, takes anonymity seriously, I recommend.
Good tip, thanks.
Thanks for this. I was looking into Proton VPN and NordVPN.
Glad to help. FYI: Proton’s VPN app is relatively cumbersome and slow, at least compared to ExpressVPN. But it’s more customizable. Love Proton’s email (including a very efficient Android app), and with their paid email you also get the VPN.
Thanks. I am very happy with NordVPN. This is my third year using it. Just realize it will cause some U.S. website servers to ask for additional credentials. Note: Many firearms related online stores will completely block access. They block certain ranges of IP addresses. NordVPN is apparently on the government hate list. Maybe the government doesn’t like them because they won’t play ball and give them access to their server farms???? Tech support has matured significantly and is now quite excellent. I don’t trust Proton. Great idea, but they cooperate with the government so its a waste of time in my opinion.
Been using Nord for several years now. Easy setup for Android & Windows. Cumbersome setup for Linux but well worth the bother….
Agree about Proton. I’ve been calculating whether I can feasibly dump their email so I can leave that behind too. Not that I’m doing much with it… signed up years ago just because it was there.
FWIW, Panama has been heavily penetrated by the ChiComs due to the Canal.
Aruba just sold itself outright to them. Like the Oval Office here.
Darian Gap reporting seems to support your claim. Invading chinese encampments are near the gap and WEF/NGO’s have moved into our old military base there to apparently promote the penetration of Panama and the USA.
….. so maybe U’ll just stick with ExpressVPN. Take my chances that the Virgin Islands are “far enough away” from those all-seeing Eyes…
Cyberghost. Developed in Germany then was sold and is now run out of Romania. I have been using it for around 7 years. Strict no – log policy.
Hi Sundance, welcome home!
And thank you for reinforcing ‘There’s no place like home’. 👍🏼❤️
Russia gets rid of communism and we are bringing it in.
Well, they “sort of” got rid of it.
Say what you want about the failures and shortcomings of modern Russia, but they are not ruled by transnational alien elites who are replacing and genociding them with open immigration of people utterly incompatible with the founding people.
I’ve been a staunch anti-communist since I read the Gulag Archipelago when I was 15-16. I was in an officer candidate program 3 months after high school. I would trade what we have for the late Soviet Union (when Russians had finally gotten control over it away from Jews [early SU] and Ukrainians[mid SU]) in a heartbeat.
The perfect is the enemy of the good enough. Nationalist capitalism is best, but the nationalism comes FIRST. Nationalist communism is clearly superior to internationalist capitalism, which is just transnational crony cartel corporatism. At least under nationalist communism you preserve the people, allowing the possibility for later reform into something better.
America is a failed state, a failed civilization, precisely because we have allowed hostile foreigners to immigrate here, seize control over the institutions for creation of culture and personal identity formation, and use those institutions to denationalize us. Ethnocentrism is the essential basis for collective self defense. There is no other way.
I see you got 12 thumbs up on that comment. But you and I are worlds apart on multiple points.
Seems like you covered pretty much everything but eugenics.
And it seems you didn’t get the word that even Hispanic Americans want the illegals gone.
Similar but different from Sundance’s experiences in Russia: (the following point is not off topic)
Like Saudi Arabia….they “sort of” started allowing women to drive. (I watched a video someone posted on CTH that revealed they didn’t, they just wanted everyone to think they did.)
Who knew that homogenous societies are well ordered?
I daresay some of that homogeneity (Sp?) is not all that. Like the south-central Siberian who once said to me, “I just don’t feel Russian.”
The Russians, and every functioning federation (which America is no longer) deal with this issue through local homogeneity. This is how America used to be, before multiculturalism. Not everyone is the same, which is why governments which rule over more than one ethnicity have federal systems in the first place. Let the Chechens be Chechens in Chechnya. Let the Dagestanis be Dagestanis in Dagestan. etc etc
There is no one-sized-fits-all culture which can be forced into people to make them all the same. That was what the very early Soviet Union and increasingly contemporary America were and are all about.
‘Mores’ associated with an ethnicity are the basic cultural assumptions governing behavior and conflict resolution of transgressions. Mores are how conflict resolution was handled before there were written laws. Mores are downstream from biology. Human beings are simply not programmable blank slates. Pinker and the rest of his ilk are simply wrong, and that is one reason their lunatic project is failing. Scandinavian taciturnity, German orderlyness, Spanish excitability, Irish tempers, are all stereotypes that have some basis in truth because they are an aggregate expression of their respective ethnogenomes.
This is why local homogeneity (federalism) is so important for social, political, and economic stability. A healthy society has laws which extend from and systematically enforce local mores. When you geographically mix people up, everyone is fighting over control of the laws to see that their mores are the ones that dominate by being enforced upon everyone else through law, to everyone else’s unhappiness. It is one reason that America is the most litigious and incarcerated society on Earth.
The Russian Federation works better than the now defunct American Federation because they make an effort respect local cultural and genetic perpetuation. The people who rule over America are doing everything they can to DESTROY local cultural and genetic perpetuation. The south-central Siberian “not feeling Russian” is no problem for the Russian Federal government, as long as they leave him alone in his own community with his own kind.
I wonder how long you spent in Russia to know it so well.
All of this speaks to the way I understand how people operate.
That said, just as in a similar example found in Japan, these social systems rely on there NOT being diversity in the population. And I don’t mean genetic diversity. I mean cultural diversity. Diversity in values and ethics and morals. I believe certain populations in the US have been manipulated to embody self-destructive values, ethics and morals because it wasn’t always “that way” for them.
We are presently in the demoralization phase of a communist takeover plan. But they have also started into “destabilization” as well with the import of specifically (and predictably) destructive threat actors into the country. And the news reports predicted by so many (who were dismissed by the media) keep rolling in.
But to be fair to Russia, this “fatherland” cultural norm has ALWAYS been a thing as they went from an autocratic system to a different authoritarian system. All of this happened without the necessity of importing dangerous people and destroying the economy of the country.
For Russia to then switch over to some sort of democratic system caused the world to roll its collective eyes. We knew there would be no meaningful change because the general culture was already accepting of authoritarianism. This idea of representative self-governance is so strange that if given the choice, I think it’s likely in an honest election, they would still reject it due to the “evil we know vs the unknown evil of change.”
So people who want to demonize Putin for not being like us? It’s quite ridiculous. And if Putin TRIED to act more like us, I firmly believe the people would completely reject him for his trouble.
Omnipotent government replaced sons, fathers, and grandfathers over generations. Yuri Maltsev was part of Mikhail Gorbachev’s Perestroika staff until he defected from the Soviet Union in 1989 and came to America.
“My first encounter with Karl Marx came in the first grade of elementary school in the city of Kazan on the banks of the great Volga River.
“His picture was printed on the first page of the first textbook I opened. “Dedushka Marx” (Grandfather Marx), said the teacher pointing to the picture. I was thrilled, for both of my grandfathers died in Stalin’s purges in the 1930s.
“I ran home to my grandma to tell her she was wrong. “I have a grandpa,” I said, and with his huge beard and smiling eyes, “he looks like Father Frost” (the Soviet/atheist version of Santa Claus or Saint Nicholas, the patron saint of Russia).”
The Decline and Fall of Gorbachev and the Soviet State
https://mises.org/mises-daily/decline-and-fall-gorbachev-and-soviet-state
When a communist government takes power, the first thing they change is history. Is it any wonder why any and all statures and historical markers are targeted by the leftist “protesters”?
Under all autocratic systems, the king or czar or emperor is generally regarded as the “Patriarch” and typically also hands down his power to his son(s)…. unless they are taken over of course.
It is similar in China. With their huge population China spent millennia fighting each other with massive losses of life.
Whether by Dictator or Marxism the Collectivist model for China ‘stopped the carnage’ in the eyes of 100’s of millions of Chinese. This history is ingrained in their psyche and is a big part of why so many willingly comply with the totalitarian government there to this day.
Correct. Call them “Artem”, that is the correct way to use the Russian linguistics for Alex or Alexander.
I think Artem is Arthur.
https://usefulenglish.ru/vocabulary/russian-names-in-english-en
It’s a .ru site so maybe it’s Russian
The common nickname for Alexander/dra is Sasha.
We named our son, born in 1974, Alexander in honor of Solzhenitsyn! He’s been called Alex all his life, though. My Russian-born mother and grandmother called people with that name “Alec” or Sasha, but if they were naughty boys, it would quickly become “Sashka”! Same for names like Misha (Michael); it became “Mishka.”
Mother used to talk about her twin cousins, long lost in the Revolution: “Shurka” and “Yurka”;-) Another cousin, who managed to escape to Paris post-Revolution, was “Bobick” aka Boris. I stayed with him and his wife for a week in 1967 when I was traveling thru post-college. Bobick, the son of a Tsarist general, had been employed as a taxi cab driver in Paris. We took a cab one night to the theater. He only spoke Russian and French, my French was not good, but better than my Russian. He pointed out the Pont Alexandre I, saying (in French) that the most beautiful bridge in Paris was built by a Russian! He never had children. Not sure how many White Russians survived the whole communist mess. They were pretty much hunted down and murdered; if lucky, escaped to US or Western Europe. My husband and I enjoyed several days in St. Petersburg in the summer of 2014, Baltic cruise. I did a tour of Leningrad Communist Party Boss Kirov’s apartment and the political museum that was the ballerina Kschessinka’s apartment. Kirov was assassinated when it became clear that he was a rival to Stalin. The one site I wished we had time to see was the old girls school that my grandmother attended, founded by Catherine the Great, the Smolny Institute. I understand it is now being used as the city hall. At one point I said to the tour guide, that my “Babushka Smolenka!” (my grandmother was a Smolny alumna); she exclaimed, “Pravda?” i. e. “Really?” with a smile. I am sad/disappointed that the cruise lines offering Baltic cruises no longer stop at St. Petersburg. It was a wonderful visit.
And the nickname for Alexandr is Sasha. But I had Russian engineers working for me named Artur.
Your presentation helped me understand better why alcoholism, hazing, and all sorts of criminality are rampant in Russia. It’s a natural instinct to resent, at some level, all the social control. That resentment results in all these antisocial types of acting out.
Is that why the UK is full of drunks?
Also, the spectre of fentanyl and other drugs looms large in the US.
Along with the illegal invasion it’s the other elephant in the room.
We are in no position to point fingers…
On the inside of the mind they know they are trapped in the Marxist theology, and in a sense do not know how to
gain release. My feeling is that we are being forced iton the ( same ) drone, Fabian Socialist programs, This article by Sundance is very perceptive and valuable to me. Thanks.
Indiana Randy relocated to Silverdale?
A million thanks for the perspective and pictures!
A steam locomotive says it all. Pretty trippy…
“Analog is still everywhere, digital systems have yet to become mainstream.” Sooo…..less fragile.
Take away the trappings of an advanced society from 80 percent (being generous here) of those I associate with every day, and they will be more of an immediate threat to me then any Russian or ChiCom alive today.
I was there in 1969 at 17. We flew from Istanbul to Moscow with an 8 hour layover in Prague (under Russian command occupation at the time and saddest place that I have ever been). When we arrived in Moscow, we were detained at the airport. All our plans changed. Hotels were switched from new Hotel Rossia to what was deemed the cloak and dagger hotel in a Reader’s Digest picked up in London after the experience. No Bolshoi Ballet etc. The hotel was bugged. You had to turn in your key every time you left. There was an incredible amount of issues trying to enforce their way of life on us. To top it off, we were there on July 4. We lived in fear very pronounced. Went back in 1989 and it was a very different country. Went to Moscow, St. Petersburg and cruised up Lake Lagoda. We were the first group to go to St. Petersburg on the train in the day. The country had seemingly come to life. When we were visiting the summer palace in St. Petersburg, Admiral Crowell and his Russian counterpart came through. My Dad was in World War II and they all had a nice conversation. It was amazing after the first experience.
That fear they created is part and parcel to authoritarianism. Can’t work without it.
Apply that to the J6 theatre and it’s very clear that is was nothing but fear inducing psyop perpetrated by our elected officials, deep state and media. Heavily coordinated and seditious from the word go.
Hoo vol: Regarding J6, yes, absolutely.
It may not be your musical taste, but check out the “ Metal Band” Metallica doing a live concert in Moscow.
Their song “ The Sandman” was interesting, and check out the crowd scenes
The year was 1991
Cheers!
I agree with Sundance’s perspectives totally as they apply to FSU states as well. We lived in Kazakhstan for several years. Similar observations. Ditto on Mongolia. My wife and I visited Moscow in October 2018. Again, we experienced similar views as expressed so wonderfully by Sundance. Although I have to admit, I don’t miss the 10 hour train ride from Almaty to remote eastern Kazakhstan sharing a cabin with folks dining on smoked fish, sausage and vodka.
Hi SD, my question is I thought Russian pscyhe was based on “Motherland ?” Regardless, thank you for this information. Serviam
Do they have suburbs in Russia? Or is it basically, major cities and open range?
Cities and open range mostly. Suburbs are essentially nonexistent.
You drive through the sardine cans, and eventually you exit into nothingness and sparse disparate houses.
That’s the impression I got. Thanks!
This is true of China, and also, to some degree, Scotland.
China, from what I saw of it, is a series of large cities full of sardine cans, surrounded by open land owned by the government, used for state run farming.
And nice communal parks, but much more crowded than the Russian ones.
Scotland is Glasgow and Edinburgh, with a few villages here and there, but largely open land owned by non-Scots. Even in the villages, amid all the open land, you find communal housing. Maybe that’s just a heritage of cold, cold winters and group survival (true of Russia and Russians as well).
But the American instinct would be to say yippee, purchase 40 acres, build a mini-mansion, and put in a row of trees to screen the road.
Build a suburb of 2000 square foot houses on half acre lots with cul de sacs.
Our architecture reflects our character, and our approach to a life well lived. It is freedom seeking, privacy seeking, and essentially independent of government in its attitude.
The 15 minute city is as fundamentally anti-American as anything ever invented.
Architecture matters, in a feedback loop.
Beauty matters. I don’t think I’ve ever seen anything quite as ugly as those Soviet era sardine cans. There is some pre-war heritage architecture in downtown Kiev, and along the river in St. Petersburg. The difference between the beauty of those structures and the ugliness of the Soviet brutalist architecture is stark.
We Americans are different from the rest of the world, very different.
Maybe it’s because we got the Scots-Irish rebels and Scots borderers in the 1650’s to 1750’s, and then the Germans revolutionaries thrown out of Germany in 1848, and then the rebellious by nature Irish in the 1880’s.
We have been blessed by a heritage that says “who died and made you kjng?”
Which leads directly to “you work for us. ”
I once explained the American attitude towards politicians to a Chinese high schooler (who was here touring the US, but not the real US, the elite US). You could tell the concept of viewing your politicians as a set of people who were to often be ridiculed and changed out like diapers was completely foreign to her as a cultural matter as well as a communist thinking matter.
That attitude couldn’t be more American, or less Chinese.
Which, once again, is why China has to resort to theft. Endless theft. No independent thinking, but with arrogance beyond belief due to them viewing themselves as the inheritors of a 3,000 or so year stable civilization (true – their money didn’t change in almost any way for 2900 years of that 3,000 or so).
Suburbs are a part of the Great American Middle Class, a crowning achievement of our society. The Middle Class is an independent Power Center and a bulwark against extremism and the Leviathan State.
Hence Hussein Obankster’s War on the Middle Class and Prosperity.
Wonderful read Sundance! Your pictures are amazing & your portrayal of life for the average Russian very enlightening.
At the same time I felt a little sad for the Russian people- but they seem to tolerate their “way of life .”
Always praying for your safety during your travels.
They are very pragmatic people. They “accept” their way of life as it is.
Great read: How does Russia deal with black market drugs such as cocaine, fentanyl, and weed? Does the criminal element exist in Russia, as we must deal with here on a daily basis (even before the illegal alien flood)?
Thank you:
Narcotics are present (I’m told) but very invisible.
I could not easily identify one visible drug abuser or drug dealer. The problem exists, but at a very small scale compared to the USA
For now, I am not interested in turning Russian people into American people just as I am not interested in turning other cultures into Americans. I am talking about CULTURES.
Cultural rot is upstream from political rot and our culture is rotten. We have to get the USA, Europe, and Australia/NZ back from the cultural stench that has brought on the political stink.
Of course, we have to work on both the cultural and political cesspools at the same time. They have merged into the same beast.
It is unfortunate for the Russians who cannot experience life with the same enthusiasm and smiles that we used to be able to do. But that is changing for us as well as we turn into a society that is full of manufactured strife, economic instability, and cultural rot.
It is their intentions to make us sad, uncertain, trapped, and worker ants instead of fully formed human beings created by Almighty God. If they have their way then they were crowd us into 15 minute cities, riding bicycles or walking, settling for our rations, and being required to carry our tracking devices that we scan as we enter and exit buildings.
“Cultural rot is upstream from political rot”
A corollary of the saying that “politics is downstream from culture.” I challenge that phrase at its most basic level. I don’t care WHO said it. And I am not the only one taking issue with it. The problem with these sorts of catchphrase statements is that they have a way of constricting our outlook and analysis, much like the “thought vs. experience” debate within philosophy (I much prefer my friend’s assessment that “philosophy is bullshit”). Anyway, Google “politics is not downstream from culture” and you get a bunch of interesting reads. The one below will get you started.
I am currently following the trail of “transvestiture,” and an interesting trail it is, but even there I quickly found a fundamental flaw in the analysis. That flaw is saying that “capital” does this, or “corporations” do that, much like our blaming the Deep State for actions. Those intellectual groupings don’t act. PEOPLE act. I’ll just leave it at that.
https://wng.org/opinions/politics-is-not-downstream-from-culture-1712104336
After your unvarnished description of the reality of life in Russia, do you think it would be risky if you ever went back, since the Russian authorities are well known for, ahem, not taking criticism well?
Sundance….terrific article. “Eyes on” (and ears) information is always vital.
You have gone to great lengths to excavate the byzantine intrigues/influence and structural power sources for the intelligence community in our country. Does the same extra legal power exist in Russia today? We already know much of the history (vis Soviet/Russian intelligence). Curious in how Putin’s background has (or has not) manifested itself in this respect in Russian society. Are the constraints the same or did Perestroika result in some permanent changes in the power structure and bounds that Putin has to “live” with?
Thanks for responding.
No argument from me – in all respects.
I’ll move off the subject.
Our Govt says we should hate Russians when our # export is death and destruction weapons for MIC profit…Does it make you feel good to profit from death? All a scam…Russia is an Ocean away why do we support NATO again ? Trump right we are dumb we provoked Russia dont be surprised when the big on comes….Russia the US Govt induced boogey man…Why to stay Relevant and keep getting funded
Side note for those who use the Russian product, Kaspersky….in September, it is reported to go away due to politics and punishments for Russia…that will disrupt many American computer users. And no doubt feed the dislike our own govt is wanting.
What is the policy there of private ownership of guns? Do they allow anything? If so, what types of guns are allowed to be owned and for what purpose? Hunting? Target shooting? What about ammo?
I spent many months in Russia in 95 just a few years after the Soviet system dissolved. Most of the time was in central Siberia and far eastern Siberia. I found as I moved farther east from Moscow, the more of an Independent and rebel streak in the people. I choked that up to being exiled from the west during the Soviet years.
Many of wonderful conversations around a quickly setup card table, chess board, 5th of Vodka and bread, sausage after work was over.
During the Soviet era I thought Russia referred to as the Motherland to differentiate themselves from Germany and the Fatherland?
“Mother Russia” is the traditional term.
Was that steam-powered train part of regular service, or a tourist or historical railroad? I didn’t know there were any steam locomotives operating regularly in Russia.
It is a regular train, carries regular passengers and/or freight.
What is the feeling in the country towards Jews and Israel?
How many Jews are there in the country?
You might find this of interest: https://richardpoe.substack.com/p/new-book-how-the-british-invented
You mentioned (previous page in comments) ‘Russians don’t buy into the Covid fear porn’. Were the citizens of Russia defiant against propaganda pushed? Or did “Father” not push “kill” shots on his “children”? Curious how compliant society rejected “the science” to make personal choices for themselves.
Explained a bazillion times in prior article. The Russian government pushed the COVID narrative, but the Russian people didn’t buy it.
A bazillion apologies for missing previous explanation 👍😊.
I’m a Big Bang Theory admirer too. Spent summer of 72 at CalTech on an NSF research grant working with superconductors. They were as nerdy than as they are today.
As I considered the plandemic a spiritual war, I immediately gravitated toward the religious exemption. But in this country we Christian objectors were in the minority, to be sure.
I wonder if the Russian’s strong faith in God accounts for the difference over there. I don’t know how anybody with a strong faith in God can so quickly and completely succumb to the wiles of the devil.
Are you home?!?!
You neglected to disclose that this is Russia’s first year operating a 100% Supply Side Economy. They are about to witness an expansion much like our’s of the 50’s. If you looked at Putin’s Cabinet now you would see what the future holds. BTW, did you know Putin is an Economist? He has successfully navigated a country away from a Command Economy to Supply Side. I don’t think you realize the achievement that is.
Unfortunately, filling a supply side economy with opportunity and disposable goods from one side of the globe might not necessarily be an “achievement.”
Their behavior sounds wonderful to me. What is described used to be basic manners. America is vulgar and getting worse every year and with every new generation and non-assimilated immigrant. Spending time in an American mall or amusement park is a freak show or a visit to an international airport.
It “sounds wonderful” until you experience it. Then you realize the playfulness and joy is also missing.
The thing about all of the radical swings in US culture, wokeism, is that as the population body immune system kicks in and ultimately rejects it there will be an appetite in the people to demand a more “normal” regulated people that is intolerant of those pushing social norms, “father’s” protection. Preferable to the insults of wokeism. The majority will echo Lulu’s sentiments. And the result will be what Sundance describes as the absence of playfulness and joy.
The human instinct leans to order over chaos. Our freedoms, joy, playfulness will be a thing of the past. “Dangerous.” I suspect that is known to the designers of our future as they use wokeism to provoke a demand for order. The chaotic trans woke will be cast overboard as useful idiots are.
I loathe the wokeism. It’s an insult to humanity. I’ll loathe the order more, as my ability to outwardly enjoy playfulness and joy becomes a memory. I love what that is to me. I ponder how to eradicate the wokeism without succumbing to father’s firm hand that will offer to eradicate it – and playfulness and joy along with it.
The 70’s public spaces USA had all sorts of playfulness and joy without the anxiety of personal safety and in-your-face deviancy. Youth had far more autonomy and unsupervised independence because the public had both concern for the common welfare and was also a check on poor manners. There is a middle ground. Or, was.
Sundance, did you get chance to visit a Russian garage?? My opinion is Guys around the world most prized possession is the garage and time hanging with the guys & toys….
Back in the early 1980’s, we hired a Russian emigre engineer to work on a shipbuilding project we were pursuing. He was Jewish and had first gone to Israel after leaving the Soviet Union.
There wasn’t all that much need for his particular expertise in Israel; we needed his expertise here in the US for the work we were doing; and so we brought him and his family into the country. They were all very happy to be given the opportunity.
The man wasn’t assigned to classified work, but we had plenty of other tasks which made direct use of his knowledge and experience without his needing a clearance. He was carefully watched anyway, but never gave us any reason to doubt his loyalty. His wife got a job teaching English to other Russian emigres.
I asked him if persecution of Jews in the Soviet Union was the reason why he had decided to leave Russia. (The year was 1981.) He said no, he left Russia because “The system there is totally crazy.”
Have you ever asked an average Russian citizen about their thoughts on the Russian ‘invasion’ of Ukraine narrative? Assuming you wont be drawing too much attention by quietly asking the quiet part out loud.
Polls show favorable and growing. The Ukrainians ahve managed to p!$$ the Russian population off and solidify them behind the effort.
Brian ?
It does look beautiful! Thank you for your research and edifying post.
But I’m wondering should we be concerned that you are there for so long?!!!!!
I agree that the increasing bi-lateral censorship between our two countries is/will be a source of continuing difficulty.
Did you ever discuss what the average Russian (if that person exists) thinks about us here in the West?
Armies are made up of people, after all, and God forbid the fools in Washington lead us into direct confrontation with the Russians, and it would be interesting to know if their hearts are in it or if they’re merely following orders.
All the Russians I talked to kind of idolized the West and were planning on moving out of Russia. Granted I met all of them through a language learning app, so my interactions are bias toward that goal.
From the military age Russians I’ve talked to, most of them we’re sad that they are at war. They felt that there could have been other solutions.
From the Official Polls I’ve seen, the public views it favorably, but I have no idea if they holds any water.
I think you can follow the theme in this post and conclude that the Russians will be good Russians.
Really appreciated your on the ground perspective. It’s interesting that you can still find in Russia today old trends that were described by every Russian novelist all the way back to Tolstoi.
SD, many thanks for your wonderful essay and photography. Fascinating!
My parents hosted exchange students from St. Petersburg about 20 years ago, and it was quite an adventure. Very well-mannered teen-age young ladies bestowed marvelous gifts upon arrival and became sponges of all things American.
I have read all of the comments here so far. The Plannedemic was mentioned a bit; however, during the West’s bungling of our own affairs,
we heard very little of Russia’s handling of their borders, tourist/ in-country travel access if at all, etc.
Whose vaccine was made available? I assume from your notes this was not mandatory.
Was Ivermectin available? Did they even administer any type of quarantine or business shutdown at all?
Thank you in advance.
If you’ve followed Mary’s apparitions in Medjugorje, this is what she had to say about Russia (which, incidentally, is consistent with the message of Fatima):
“Russia is the people where God will be most glorified. The West has advanced civilization but without God as though it were its own creator.”
Fulton J. Sheen wrote often about Russia and Christianity in 1947 – 1948. Below though is by Austin Ruse.
What Would the Conversion of Russia Look Like? – Crisis Magazine
“Recall that when President George W. Bush met Putin for the first time Putin was wearing the cross he wore as a baby when his mother secretly baptized him. It was saved from a fire and given to Putin by his mother prior to his first trip to Israel. He has never taken it off. Putin buried both his mother and his father out of the Church in St. Petersburg where she baptized him.”
Nice way to hijack the thread.
Wrong thread. This should be removed, spaces added and posted on the Presidential thread if you absolutely must make the rest of us endure it again.
Yup…massive paragraphs are very difficult to read.
Early in your article, you mentioned the average Russian and the ‘sardine can’ mentality of thinking…and staying within the bounds….am thinking of our equal as being ‘wrong think’….can you speak to what happens if they think outside the ‘can’?
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I am amazed at how clean and litter free the pictures are…so it can be done. Very beautiful!
BTW…I can slightly relate to the check points while driving…there was one on The Isthmian Highway, on the way to the beaches in Panama…sarcastically called “Check Charlie”, where we Gringos had to show ‘our papers’. It was un nerving.
Unbelievably interesting post SD, you do an exceptional job fleshing out your observations. Thank you for sharing them with me.
The whole post reminds me of this De Tocqueville quote,
The American struggles against the obstacles which nature opposes to him; the adversaries of the Russian are men. The former combats the wilderness and savage life; the latter, civilization with all its arms. The conquests of the American are therefore gained with the ploughshare; those of the Russian by the sword. The Anglo-American relies upon personal interest to accomplish his ends, and gives free scope to the unguided strength and common sense of the people; the Russian centres all the authority of society in a single arm. The principal instrument of the former is freedom; of the latter, servitude.
and 1984 (naturally) but in a new light. Its interesting that in 200 years, not much has changed culturally.
Another point I have is, I have a handful of friends in Russia, some in Moscow and one in a small town in Siberia. The ones in Moscow have a similar life to mine in the US. But the one in Siberia is constantly having their life path blocked by bureaucracy. Fees, licenses, permits, you name it, all expensive and difficult to acquire. Normal Americans would never stand for the hoops this friend has to jump through to accomplish anything.
Anyway, my question is, do you plan on going back anytime soon? Can I join you?
The Russian soul is 1000 years old. One must never overlook this. The land runs deep regardless of their changes in governance.
Sundance, did you need a visa?
Also, did Snow** Den not perform a very important task and sacrifice a regression to the ‘fatherland’?
He explained this in a previous post. You go through a service that give to an invitation to come to Russia, then you have to go in person to DC or NYC and sit for an interview, after a month or so, you go back to DC or NYC and pick up your passport.
It is in the nature of bureaucracy to grow at the expense of all and by all appearances Russian culture defers to the Fatherland for their general well being. How do Russians police the breaches of their social compact?
You mentioned that an average blue collar worker is paid about $1,000/month. At 40 hour work weeks that’s about $5.77/hr. A fast food meal is then half an hour or more of wages. But there is more missing in the comparison, since we don’t know what the bite is before the worker gets that $1,000/month.
My question: How much is that income taxed? income tax? worker tax, other taxes? or even union dues and such.
Very interesting and informative. Thank you for sharing. I’m just thankful you are home safely; I have been worrying about you. (From the standpoint of “I hope he is coming back” and “I hope the US lets him come home.”
Hi Sundance
What happens if one ‘steps outside the sardine can”?
Thank you
I enjoyed reading this, and your adventures into the lives in Russia.
My sister went to Russia in 1997 and adopted a boy. Andrei is an adult now and I do not think
he wants to go back and visit his parents. He is a great kid.
We love him.
Your photos are excellent. Thank you for sharing all of this information
This article sounds like the trash takes from a hostile outside observer. These observations made about Russia and its people are the same observations I see butthurt gaijin state about Japan and its people. And now, Japan has been invaded by the “woke”. It is fighting back, with a lot of success. Russia is in the same position as Japan with the Western woke crowd.
Although I have not been to Russia, what this article describes and what I have heard and noticed about Russians (and I’ve met a couple), is starkly at-odds with each other. The Russians I’ve met have been open to listening to other points of view and do not refer to some “Fatherland”. They have been receptive to European standards and trade. Also, many of them seem to love Western food and culture. It seems they do not understand the political West’s hatred of Slavs–which I must say I don’t, either.
Who is the author of this piece? I have read a similar sentiment in The Smithsonian magazine, which is based out of Washington, D.C. where hatred of the Russian Orthodox religion and Russia is at its most extreme. And to compare it with China and suggest a similarity of outcome because of the government, is ludicrous. Russia is a Constitutional democracy that brought down its own demon of Communism in the late 1980’s. Also, despite the absolute corruption brought to it during the 1990s when the U.S. government stole its wealth and health–the nation has endured.
Russia is back to regional power status. And, from what I understand, once again the Russian people are proud of their, newly-liberated from the U.S. shadows, country. It is forming and strengthening allegiances with China, India, North Korea, Turkey, some ME nations like Saudi Arabia, and Vietnam/SE Asia. And what is the U.S. government doing to Russia? Stealing its money and starting ANOTHER World War. All because the Western Civilization has become Babylon.
The character flaws, and a need for a “Fatherland”, is best demonstrated in the European Union, the UK, Israel, and the United States.
lolol….. I’m the author, and you are far more thin-skinned than the most thin-skinned Russian I ever met.
The average Russian has no concept of their “fatherland” position, because they have absolutely nothing to compare it to. Russians are a proud people and brutally honest, but their worldview is limited by the walls that surround them.
“To love their country has been considered as virtue in men, whose love could not be otherwise than blind, because their preference was made without, a comparison; but it has never been my fortune to find, either in ancient or modern writers, any honourable mention of those, who have, with equal blindness, hated their country.”—Dr. Samuel Johnson, “Taxation Not Tyranny”
(Dr. Johnson was asserting that our rebel Founders should regard England, not America, as “their country”. I find it a pretty good description of the modern Left and Globalists.)
Read and understand before you criticize our host.
Don’t tell others what to do./s
I stopped reading this sh*t at:
“Although I have not been to Russia…”
Fatherland
“I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.”
“The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent.”
“The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights.”
“The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation;”
Emer de Vattel The Law of Nations Book I
CHAP. XIX. § 212. Citizens and natives.
I agree with this statement and is why I do not like people born in other countries holding high offices in America. They will always be partial to their country of birth. We have far too many of these people in our government. Are there not ordinary Americans available for these positions that we must rely on foreigners to do the job?
Wisdom cries out in the streets- yet no man regards it.
The most unfortunate part about being overseas was that since most people had never left their own region, their only views on Americans was that gleaned from watching Hollywierd films, or when wealthy americans including quite a few of those Hollywierd actors traveled to their country and made jackasses of themselves. Or the C-I-A messing around internationally starting conflicts around the globe.
It was quite hard to convince people that those types were actually a minority of the country. And that the majority of people here thought those types of people people as strange and dangerous as they did.