Treeper Question:
ICTHEMATRIX – […] “Related to the topic of discerning alignment via a question, I would like to sincerely ask you your thoughts on a very real possibility:
What are we to make of President Trump’s possible choice of Marco Rubio as his VP?
In many columns and pages, you have chronicled the multiple failure points of Senator Rubio…his service within the corrupted Intelligence committee, and his non-MAGA compromises. I fear this could become another massive moment of fatally poor judgement.”
The direct issue of the vice presidential pick of Donald Trump is a fun topic often discussed, because it can easily engage everyone.
The issue of Rubio, or ‘fill_in_the_blank‘, is not really that important to me; and before your jaw opens, I’ll explain why.
My personal preference is Dr. Ben Carson, for all the reasons I have previously mentioned {GO DEEP}. In this election, GOOD is going head-to-head against EVIL.
When I say GOOD -vs- EVIL, let me give context. These are the stakes.
Given the nature of potential nuclear weapon use, three simultaneous global conflicts (likely 4 with Taiwan), a looming World War III, hundreds of thousands (perhaps millions) of slaughtered people, the likely elimination of the dollar as the global reserve currency for around half the world, a dollar-based central bank digital currency created by the United States Treasury if Biden wins, the catastrophic consequences in the lives of ordinary Americans, and essentially the end of projected USA power and the economic security that goes with it, there may not be a familiar tomorrow if the election goes the wrong way. With that in mind, the lowest possible consideration in my mind is 2028.
Next up, put this thinking cream into your coffee as we sip through the thought processes.
They crossed the Rubicon in 2020 with 51 high ranking Gov Intel members purposefully and specifically lying to the public. Does everyone realize the scale of that, and what it meant when they took that position on such an openly visible lie right to our faces, using our highest-ranking government intelligence members? They don’t exactly come back from that; it was an all-in position…. and they did it. What does that stuff in 2020 tell you about 2024?
What they will do, based on what they have already done, is the stuff we should be thinking about.
Look at what they have done.
This doesn’t even touch on the forced vaccination and COVID madness where people literally stood outside of buildings while their husbands, wives, mothers, fathers, grandparents and children died alone, ALONE, because government people – the type who torture beagles for a living – said that isolation was what we needed to do…. because that was part of the predicate for manipulating an election.
Lawfare? Heck, that’s the least dangerous poison arrow in their death to the republic quiver.
That’s the 2024 context.
So back to the VP possibility and Marco Rubio.
I don’t have any idea who President Donald Trump will select. However, I can see him liking Senator Rubio, because Rubio is articulate, clean, relatively young, bilingual, has a family, is polite and well mannered, is cultured, is seemingly not in trouble, and he gives a good impression when he walks into the room and engages the guests. Rubio outwardly checks boxes that make him appear like a safe legacy consideration.
The downside is that Rubio is a manipulative liar, untrustworthy, speaks with forked tongue, fulfills the role of Brutus, or the “scorpion” perfectly, and seemingly has done stuff early on in his life that may have created the origination compromise. Beyond all that, the cherry on the corruption cake is his relationship with the Intelligence Community. Any SSCI Vice-Chair who can sit with SSCI Chairman Mark Warner as a “friend across the aisle,” can never, not for a single moment, be trusted. It’s just the reality of it.
That said, I genuinely don’t care who Trump selects as vice president. I have my preference (Carson), but I’m situationally ambivalent to the issue, because I view my preference for Trump’s mission as something totally different than most.
WE THE PEOPLE need to take back the power from our government. I want President Trump to operate every lever from the limited office of the presidency to give us the tools to take back that power. WE need to be the vice president, and WE need to be the force in 2028 that determines how the deconstruction of our oppression continues.
President Donald J. Trump is our weapon, our wrecking ball to start this MAGA process. We the People are the entities who need to support Trump, while keeping him fueled and fearless as he does it. Depending on how much deconstruction demolition Trump is able to achieve, the next phase of operational leadership will need a different skillset.
Last point – I don’t believe that President Donald Trump has “massively failed” at anything. I’m not going to backbite, judge or criticize the man in the arena, because he wears a different sandal or chooses a different weapon to fight the enemy. Look around, he’s all alone.
Go back to what I wrote in July, 2015, about Donald Trump. “Why I Support Donald Trump“… Long before anyone thought he had a chance, I explained the reason I would support him in 2015. [Part 2]
I said in 2015, if Donald Trump showed up to the August Fox debate in five-inch heels, a Carmen Miranda hat and started twerking the podium of Jeb Bush, I would vote for him even harder. …. Because Trump was the only one different than the set of characters organized to help Jeb.
President Trump isn’t the cause of the GOP problems; President Trump is the result of the GOP problems. President Trump is our weapon. From that perspective, there is no alternative. And yes, he is the ONLY alternative. Whether he makes mistakes or not is a moot point against the reality of him being the only alternative to a completely corrupt system. Think about it.
There are quite enough high-horse riders and keyboard warriors who do not understand the DC system criticizing Trump. They don’t need my help. I cheer our glorious bastard every day, because every ounce of his thinking and effort comes from a place of good intention. I do not doubt this fallible, flawed and simultaneously decent, strong, purposeful and resilient man.
Beyond 2024, Good is going to have to battle Evil, and at the same time our nation will need stability, optimism and a resurgence of faith. In short, no one is winning this political war without putting God, righteousness and prayer at the forefront, as the DC tables are overturned.
When it gets ugly, and it will get extremely ugly, something just inherently tells me, we will need Ben Carson.
Look to the underlying function that helps achieve the uniparty’s premise. Which is in and of itself leftist. What is common is all authoritarian governments. The vote is fake. Democracy isn’t performed. Winning hearts and minds is only a cover story. The election is rigged thru multiple means of cheating. Furthermore a part of our culture is to abhor a constitutional crisis. We have only a brief set of weeks to install a new President between Nov. and Jan. –we don’t do chaos well. But that brief time to hand over the presidency makes it ripe for cheating. The deadline looms and it becomes a perfect environment for the criminal. Brief time is the tool of the thief. All of this is centered around election fraud and installation of a president vs. electing one. Never lose focus, everything is smoke and mirrors, election stealing is the gig.
I agree- the uniparty is leftist.
Yesterday, someone on a different site explained this.
He said conservatism/MAGA is not right-wing. It’s really the middle on the pendulum b/c right-wing is actually libertarian, even anarchy.
It’s the left that seeks to curtail our rights and freedoms; it’s the left that acts as totalitarian dictators… which is WHY Americans are supporting Trump in increasing numbers.
We have all witnessed this reality in the Biden govt– vax mandates-forced injections, politically weaponized govt that tries to put its political opponents in prison, Biden telling us (not asking) that no gas vehicles will be permitted by 2032… telling us that in the next pandemic (which Biden said would happen) HE would not permit anyone to refuse the next vax… no more gas ovens/ranges. Many examples.
We were taught that the communist USSR, China, Cuba, etc., were leftist. Communism/Marxism/socialism is on the left.
And Nazism is fascism and on the right. But, Nazism is “national SOCIALISM.” Mussolini was praised by Lenin.
Both are totalitarian dictatorships that severely control their people/masses.
Logically, the opposite of leftist/communist totalitarian dictatorship where govt rules/dictates every aspect of your life… is … NO govt/anarchy/libertarians, the wild-wild west, everyone fends for themselves.
Conservatism/MAGA is actually the mid-point on this political spectrum. Trump MAGA wants Americans to have MORE freedom, not less but also to preserve (conserve/protect) values, Freedoms, principles that have stood the test of time and have contributed to creating stable and civil society and governance.
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Correct, another long standing marketing tool of Democrats. The right spectrum moves from the center (moderate) to lesser control of government. The right doesn’t lead one towards Nazism, the left is its home spectrum.
The Uniparty are not leftists. They are global corporate Marxists.
… which is the totalitarian… left.
A global corporate marxist is STILL a dictatorship.. that seeks to enslave the people for their own profit… as did the Soviets, Chinese, Cuban, Venezuelan, etc… (marxists/communists) … and Nazism (fascists) from the last century.
What is the difference between these 2 in real terms? Nothing really.
Just like the globalist corporate marxists of today … Soviet leaders, politburo, political class and Chinese (same) and Cuban, Venezuelan, and Nazi political CLASS… all lived in luxury with great wealth… while the citizens/people struggled in tyranny, terror and poverty.
The OPPOSITE of leftism/totalitarian dictatorship… IS… NO govt/anarchy… also an unacceptable extreme.
MAGA/Conservatism never promotes anarchy or NO govt at all. We are the middle ground on the political spectrum.
We were all merely TAUGHT that communists on the left AND nazis/fascists on the right so we accepted those labels w/out question…. even though the RESULT is exactly the same for both…
… so communism/fascism are effectively the SAME (u get the same exact result both) so they (communism/fascism) should be, properly, classified together
… and the OPPOSITE of tyranical communist/fascist govt control/dictatorship by the govt/political class … is NO govt/anarchy. That is properly right-wing – no govt/anarchy which really hasn’t existed … maybe the days of the Vikings.
We just BELIEVE these classifications we were taught b/c we never questioned them.
We just accepted that classification/label – communist dictatorship is leftist and fascist dictatorship is on the right… when they are actually both the same.
If u disagree…then how are they actually different?
And the corporate class is still an elitist class bc corps are run by CEOs and Boards (elitist class) who are very tied to the political class. They function together… just like occurs in Communist China today. The people are slaves of their govt masters. Corporate masters are part of the govt/political elitist class too.
We are casting our entire mortal lives onto a system designed well over 200 years ago, long before technology could be a factor. Plus communism wasn’t around, creating zombies by the millions, willing to hang themselves in order to defeat biblical authority.
We are NOTHING without that Authority. Humanist hedonism is a slow acting poison that weakens and rots the people, leaving them at the mercy of foreign agents of greater discipline.
These hedonists have gamed the system and co-opted the weak into hating godliness. The US is far too rotted to maintain itself at this point, and no Republican Party is going to put out our fires. Hell they are half the problem, and Foam Party Rubio is not a reformer.
If he’s chosen it’s just another play for a voting group. That ploy won’t address the entrenched deception in both parties and save us from our own craven residents. Only massive judgment can change our course.
Plus it’s far bigger than just defeating Biden. His network is global and able to strike back at anyone who squeaks into higher office.
Ben Carson might bring the Michigan and Baltimore vote. He grew up in detroit, went to Southwestern High School, worked at Wayne State, went to Woke Go Blow Michigan and worked at Hopkins in his early career.
His ties to Maryland and Michigan are strong.
Ben Carson opens the message of MAGA up to more people. It magnifies the message to all, outside of the perception created and codified by the establishment. End of story. It solves Trump’s biggest problem by telling people ‘this was never a problem to begin with.’
And it’s not just about that, either. All Republicans like Ben Carson. He gives the squishies an excuse to back Trump, again or for the first time.
Finally, it is my belief, and maybe others do as well, that they will put Trump in prison before election day. In that moment, Carson is the only one who could stand up in that moment to that evil.
Where is Rush Limbaugh?
I tell you, I no long listen to (talk) radio, its full of BS. Starting to parallel TV garbage.
Politics is having way to much effect on our lives and the reason we should do away with 75/80% of it! Politics should be in the back of you’re mind not the front.
Yes, the replacements for RUSH are basically worthless. They sound like whining women with no material substance. Their lack of insight is phenomenal.
Tucker Carlson should have replaced Rush!
10 bonus points for saying “should have” instead of grammatically incorrect “should of”.
I went to Catholic School in New York City. Sisters of Saint Joseph!
3 hours of nothingness
They all ride the surface, never go deep into an issue, truly talking heads
Democrats smile everyday at the thought of Dan Bongino having replaced Rush on the radio. Rush was a cultural institution and like Carson will never be replaced.
I have to disagree. People often say, with pride, that they aren’t interested in politics. They might as well say ‘I’m not interested in my standard of living, my health, my job, my rights, my freedoms, my future or any future.’ If we mean to keep any control over our world and our lives, we need to be interested in politics.
Why are you reading and commenting here? Isn’t it because your are sincerely concerned with politics?
Either you do politics or politics does you.
Politics is what someone does if one lies, cheats and steals. Otherwise it is leadership. Representation.
Oh, Stella. The word is NOT politics. It should be leadership or representation. We no longer have a republic, so then what are we? Unless we crawl it back…
Redefining words is what leftists do. This is the definition of politics:
The art or science of government or governing, especially the governing of a political entity, such as a nation, and the administration and control of its internal and external affairs.
We are in the black hole.
I ‘m a believer in small government! Not no government, just smaller as were our founders. Politics, no. Politics of today is why we have weirdo people story hour in the ‘News’. Economics out performs politics to sway of human activity, not just government. That is why I loved the book by Ludwig von Mises, ‘Human Action’, the book is about Treatise on Economics, but I viewed it as the psychology of human interaction on how praxeology and economics plays a bigger roll than politics on human behavior.
In the end, human will have to learn the how to self govern or be in the perpetual cycle of build destroy build destroy.
I come here because of Sundance’s intelligent insights into issues. I also use to comment on 35/40 websites in a week, now down to ONE, this one, plus I was banned from most of them! Yes, I’m concerned but not really, I know the Lord Jesus Christ will return and set things right. So, I live without the fear of death. And I will say most people have a hard time understanding what it is I’m actually saying, I cannot write a book here, you know!
Again, redefining a word to fit your argument isn’t a conservative debate technique. It defies reality. I don’t disagree with your philosophy exactly, but I don’t think you are describing it correctly. I stand by what I said originally about politics.
Words have meaning. Giving a word a different meaning doesn’t clarify anything.
Stella
A few days ago, she was blatantly misquoting the Bible (Samuel).
Once confronted, went on a rant about others “not wanting to be told what to do (implying by from herself).”
Doubled down on her assertion regarding a divine command misdirections. I could have easily been construed as blasphemy.
Just sayin.
Narrative Control hallmarks.
Assertions, when caught, backtrack and double talk.
Here is how back and for goes on internet comment sections.
I’m not a she, Miss Black Knight.
The reality is, I did not request a reply to my post and you just spewed a bunch of blather. Those assumption are telling. You don’t even know what blasphemy is, if you think what I said is blasphemy.
One can reply to a post without a request.
If you are a he, my apologies. You’re handle appears feminine.
There is nothing telling in my reply other than I pay attention carefully.
I know exactly what blasphemy is, and you used scripture for one set of people to be used against another set of people.
Using the holy word to advance an agenda is blasphemous. Always has been.
Nice try.
I’ll this once continue with this idiotic conversation and then no more!
You are not as smart as you think you are and you are a damn fool.
If you are a ‘HE’? You idiot! ‘YOU’RE HANDLE’, that is my name you damn moron.
Black Knight, what kind of HANDLE is that, you fantasizing about riding a horse with you’re sword in you’re hand. Is you’re name that repulsive you are a shamed to use it. And what is this ‘Nice try’ at what, you dumba$$?
And Stella, bless you. I still stand by my understanding of representation in God’s word.
My other half has just fallen so I must assist.
Remember the saying you should never talk politics or religion? I have always done the opposite on both subjects because the truth matters. Thank goodness I did because I’m confident it’s one the reasons my sons are educated on such issues and didn’t buy into the liberal lies and bs.
Apathy has been one the main reasons we’ve gotten to where we are today; not enough people cared enough to realize how such issues effected their way of life and society as whole.
Many just want to be left alone.
Unfortunately when the gubmint leaves you alone, it’s concurrently running amok.
Being left alone is how we got here.
The same people who want us to not talk politics or religion are our true oppressors.
Nothing wrong with a pub or a church.
I concur.
Ben Carson. Full stop.
Time to see the forest for the trees. Thanks for giving me some perspective, SD.
I’ve said this a thousand times, it’s a zero sum game for all the chips in the casino. They all stuck out their necks and committed high treason. DJT will win the election as he did in 2020. However, the coup regime no doubt has a team of monkeys working around the clock with another scheme. Most of the people out there are clueless. They have no idea what’s at stake and how much worse it will get.
Imagine a country so insane they purposely destroy their global currency, economy, open border impoverished nuthouse and turn the country into a leftist tranny/pedo insane asylum, and then provoke nuclear war. Are they suicidal and turning America and the west into one huge Jonestown? I’ve been scratching my head trying to understand how this will make them (WEF/globalists, etc) rule the world.
100% Sundance. Too many among even us fall prey to establishment, legacy thinking/analysis. We must guard against taking those views, disciplining ourselves to see the unseen.
Just heard on am radio….”conservative” host Mike Gallager referencing a Faux News report, that insider democrats fear Little Marco the most, as DJT’s choice for VP. Kinda like Jeb! in the past?
Nobody fears foamboy. He’s dumb and pliable. That and his shady personal life makes him easily blackmailable, but for Trump as well. If they remove Trump, he could destroy Rubio publicly. This VP pick is 9d chess. Lots of scheming here.
RIGGGGHHHHTTTT!!
All I hear is: “PLEASE don’t throw me in that briar patch!” regarding Marco.
KEY COMMENT in article: although Rubio doesn’t have much of a choice, Warner is a traitor who was actively involved with the Russian COUP HOAX against a sitting president.
“Any SSCI Vice-Chair who can sit with SSCI Chairman Mark Warner as a “friend across the aisle,” can never, not for a single moment, be trusted. It’s just the reality of it.”
The MASSIVE CORRUPTION of this federal government is obvious for anyone to see. The communists must be EXPELLED by any means necessary and PROSECUTED for crimes against America.
For an example of the corruption and evil that ‘the swamp’ is capable of, read this from Roger Kimball connecting Julie Kelly reporting on Milley etc activities re Jan 6. – THEY were the insurrectionists.
https://x.com/rogerkimball/status/1800121878448623719
With a vice presidential pick like Rubio, Trump will become a target for impeachment or assassination the very instant he is sworn in. The ONLY way to prevent this is for him to select a VP that the deep state fear more than him. I think someone like Flynn or Lake would fit this bill best, but there may be others. Carson would be a fine vice president/president, but I worry that the deep states believes they might be able to intimidate him into submission.
We need a junk yard dog for VP. Dr. Carson seems to kind and not nearly as ruthless as this assignment calls for. My revenge urge kicking in no doubt! 🤬
No to rubio – for all reasons stated and more: he is untrustworthy, a deep state actor.
No to Ben Carson – he is highly intelligent and principled, but simply put is a moral coach not a ruthless decisionmaker; too methodical.
Why not Col. Douglas Macgregor ? … He knows the “cesspool” that DC is, the Intelligence Community, … He is a patriot, strategic, a warrior, … and clearly would be “meek”, i.e., slow to anger, waste blood and treasure.
Too many politicians from a limited pool are the names others bring to the fore. Why because they are familiar ? …
Trump needs a VP who can be a true, full “Partner” … Macgregor knows both how to destroy (when necessary) and rebuild, he understands “command and control” and “delegation of both authority and responsibility”.
Col. Douglas Macgregor would be a “partner” who could actively advocate for getting the military back to fundamentals, including purging the ranks (and bringing back “soldiers”), and advocate the US Constitution to the American People.
MacGregor is not even being considered as VP.
And you know that how?
Have you seen Trump’s list?
It matters. A pick like Rubio instead of someone MAGA means they are more likely to make sure Trump doesn’t finish his term. Surprised you don’t see that.
I love Ben Carson, I don’t trust Rubio. I know how you feel about it, but I think DeSantis is the going to be the Choice… In my opinion this has been baked into mix from the beginning. DeSantis was a means to flush the Deep state money and expose the weaknesses of the other Campaigns. Carson has the brains but at time weak. If this is going to work we need a 12 year Admin to put the country right.
It doesn’t matter, you could resurrect Abe Lincoln. The Democrats will commit blatant election fraud and the RINOS will be willing bystanders to say nothing here, move along. This election is going to be an utter mess. Everything depends on sun light of the fraud and illegal voting actions.
Actually, cleaning up the state voter lists will go a long way toward stopping massive election fraud.
Dems/RINOs need a ton of names on these voter lists they can use to create fraud ballots.
They NEED to know that for the fraud ballots they create – no real voter will show up at the polls or mail-in a ballot.
It’s the voters that … moved out of county/state, IMO, that are the most useful to election criminal fraudsters.
Why? Because these voters are extremely unlikely to return to vote in their old precinct… but no one knows these many 1000s of registered voters moved away (except
election fraudsters who did do the research).
UNLESS you do this tedious investigation/research now– b4 any ballots are mailed and votes are cast– there won’t be time after the election and b4 J6 to identify fraud ballots of those voters — still on the state voter lists – but have moved out of the county/state.
If these ineligible voters are removed from voter reg lists now, OR at least identified, then election fraudsters really cannot USE those names anymore. Too easy to get caught committing a felony.
That makes it much harder for election fraudsters to commit election fraud… on the scale they are going to need to do to rig the 2024 election and re-install dementia Joe
DeSantis, Donald’s, Gaetz…
All ineligible due to State of residence.
Trust God. Fear not.
We need to focus on triage. That means focus on 1 administration at a time.
I agree with your comment regarding DeSantis and his ability to carry on President Trump’s legacy. We are going to need another eight years after PDJT to clean up the mess. DeSantis has no fear and is not afraid to make decisions that take some big footballs.
However, 12th Amendment prohibits some of the aforementioned choices. Love Dr. Ben Carson; however, too sweet and gentle.
As Sundance has stated above — ” WE need to be the vice-president, and WE need to be the force in 2028 that determines how the deconstruction of our oppression continues.”
Ben Carson would be a great VP choice in helping us obtain that.
It doesn’t matter how old he is, whether it be now, or 10 years from now, as long as he is helping WE THE PEOPLE take back the power from our government.
I like Grahams message but I have a different verse…
Psalm 109:8
8 Let his days be few; and let another take his office. 9 Let his children be fatherless, and his wife a widow. 10 Let his children be continually vagabonds, and beg: let them seek their bread also out of their desolate places.
David is ruthless
Question… Can a president remove and replace a Vice President after an election?
This is a legal question. Are there any legal scholars here that know the answer?
No. The President cannot remove the Vice President. The only way to remove the Vice President is through the impeachment and conviction process. The House of Representatives and the Senate, together, can fire the Vice President through impeachment.
Thank you!
Well then this VP pick is critical as we learned last go around with Pence.
Rubio is a HUGE no go, a sure way to sabotage or assassination.
Ben Carson is a good choice.
I cannot see how they could impeach Ben Carson.
Two words;
Clarence Thomas.
Trust God. Fear not.
The Vice President can also resign, IMHO.
Agnew resigned.
This is how we ended up with Ford. One who was on the Warren Commission and in office conveniently during the Church Committee, and unelected to either VP or the Presidency.
Odd, yes?
Warren CommissionFurther information:
Warren Commission and Assassination of John F. Kennedy
The Warren Commission (Ford 4th from left) presents its report to President Johnson (1964).
On November 29, 1963, President Lyndon B. Johnson appointed Ford to the Warren Commission, a special task force set up to investigate the assassination of President John F. Kennedy.[52] Ford was assigned to prepare a biography of accused assassin Lee Harvey Oswald. He and Earl Warren also interviewed Jack Ruby, Oswald’s killer. According to a 1963 FBI memo that was released to the public in 2008, Ford was in contact with the FBI throughout his time on the Warren Commission and relayed information to the deputy director, Cartha DeLoach, about the panel’s activities.[53][54][55] In the preface to his book, A Presidential Legacy and The Warren Commission, Ford defended the work of the commission and reiterated his support of its conclusions.[56]
See Kissinger and from Wikipoo…
The Ford administration and the Church Committee[edit]On May 9, 1975, the Church Committee decided to call acting CIA director William Colby. That same day Ford’s top advisers (Henry Kissinger, Donald Rumsfeld, Philip W. Buchen, and John Marsh) drafted a recommendation that Colby be authorized to brief only rather than testify, and that he would be told to discuss only the general subject, with details of specific covert actions to be avoided except for realistic hypotheticals.
But the Church Committee had full authority to call a hearing and require Colby’s testimony. Ford and his top advisers met with Colby to prepare him for the hearing.[22] Colby testified, “These last two months have placed American intelligence in danger. The almost hysterical excitement surrounding any news story mentioning CIA or referring even to a perfectly legitimate activity of CIA has raised a question whether secret intelligence operations can be conducted by the United States.”[23]
If the JFK files are revealed, those will blow up a lot of conspiracies, including the Ford Administration and others.
Touche
Good. Blow it all up. Their collective perfidy needs to be public.
That’s how they’re stripped of their power.
Or the VP can be MADE to resign. SO, in short words, anyone can remove the VP.
The VP can decide whether to resign or not. The Constitution and relevant laws do not provide a mechanism for forcing a VP to resign. Can the evil, corrupt, scumbags in our gov’t. drum up lies, inuendo, and make threats toward a VP in hopes of convincing him to resign? You betcha.
Can just anyone do this? Hardly.
They can also resign.
Rubio would back stab Trump in a heartbeat. When support is needed Rubio will not be there for the Patriots. Like Cruz, Rubio he is not a natural born citizen. The Dems/Deep State would start pulling his puppet strings on day one. Trumps VP and eventual successor needs to be a “pitbull” who will unleash on DC.
Kari Lake. She’s smart, articulate, bold, aggressive and has proven she will not back down from a fight.
Some of the list is there just to fortify support in certain areas of the Republican swamp. Nothing more. If Trump goes for a woman, would much rather see Kari Lake. If private sector, I’m unsure about Carson – too soft hearted. If with a politician, I’m partial to Donalds. Definitely not Cotton and definitely not Scott. It’s anyone’s guess. The whole list could just be a ruse.
I agree. Where is Thatcher when we need her?
I do not trust anyone who is/was on the Senate Select Committee for Intelligence. Anyone near that committee has loads of “Kompromat” that will ensure their master will be the Deep State.
I also believe Marco is from Florida and you cannot have POTUS and VPOTUS from the same state.
Carson is a good man. Anyone President Trump picks has to have the stones to be the next POTUS.
I’m certain President Trump will pray for guidance and receive answers that will help us all.
Rubio was a member of the gang of eight gleefully participating in the dismantling of freedom and liberty. That’s all everyone really needs to remember / know.
Rubio? Not a chance.
NO!
Before they brought on Vance? Fox and Friends was rolling out the Rubio meme this morning…adding more NO to my NO!
Dr. Carson is a man of high morality, knows the evil about us, has a big brain and is no less MAGA than Steve Bannon or Peter Navarro. He would be a four year ‘Apprentice’, understudy to the confluence of Trump’s brain trust as VP and has the inner magneto to avoid the Federal vortex that swirls DC. And a good candidate he would be to carry MAGA onward.
In particular, and most importantly, he understands how the election of 2020 was stolen and knows how to handle the oafs who think otherwise.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/06/cnn-anchor-asks-potential-vice-president-dr-ben/
Well, the presidential candidate and a vice president candidate cannot be from the same state. Marco Rubio will not be vice president
Sundance, you triggered my ‘humor antenna’…
When you said Rubio was ‘articulate and clean’ 🙂
I hope he picks general Flynn that sort of keeps him from getting assassinated. I think these people in the deep state are more afraid of general Flynn than they are Trump
Peter Navarro. Another choice.
Ben has been my pick all along.
Where are all the “Little Marco” photos? I especially remember the one with the sign saying “You Have To Be This Tall to Be President.”
Another crowd favorite was “Little Marco” in the giant rocking chair and in the little toddler outdoor swing.
The best one might have been “Little Marco” walking across the stage beside all the tall candidates as he looked to be the same height as Hervé Villechaize of “Fantasy Island” fame.
I remember, at first in 2016, my wife thought he was Irish….Mark O’Rubio.
How does the 12th amendment apply to both Trump and ru bi O residing in the same state?
What is stopping the IC from taking illegal porn from Obamas computer and installing it on Ben Carsons computer? nothing
The only reason little Marco can even be considered as a option is because the MSM has portrayed him to be a 2020 election result denier. Even though he actually voted to certify Joe Biden like Rand Paul but unlike Josh Hawley and Ted Cruz. Otherwise it would make no sense at all.
MSM doesn’t even consider Carson to be an option, yet Carson remains on the list.
Cart before the horse post. Now back to reality…
If you expect to be taken seriously, respond as such.
Your reply to my initial post didnt reference anything I said. Its as if you didnt even bother reading what I wrote. Stay distracted my friend.
For our purposes Trump’s choice of vice president concerns only two primary matters – the impending threats of assassination and impeachment. The office otherwise is incredibly weak unless the Senate ends up split 50-50, which is not happening during a Trump presidency as the Deep State will prevent giving Trump’s VP that much power.
Rubio is fully compromised and controlled by the Intel Agencies, much like Pence and many other Republicans. Giving Rubio the VP slot is Trump offering the CIA an olive branch. I’ll believe it when I see it.
A far more momentous and contentious decision will be for Attorney General, which is who the Deep State fears the most. A fearless Attorney General could set the Deep State’s agenda back for years and years.
Rubio if selected will be the 2024 Pence … nuff said.
VP analysis… The one thing Trump needs is protection from the Deep State actors and right now he has none. That leads me to believe that he will select either a Governor, Senator or House member to give him political cover. With that in mind, here is my assessment from least likely to most likely.
1. Tim Scott – He could probably provide the most cover, as a black U.S. Senator, for President Trump if Tim were an honest and honorable man. He is not. He is a charlatan whose only difference with Mike Pence is skin color. Trump should avoid Tim at all costs.
2. Ben Carson – He is an honest Christian man and would be a great VP pick if we didn’t have a weaponized system of justice. Carson has zero political power behind him at this point and cannot provide cover for President Trump.
3. Elise Stefanik – She has been a loyal MAGA supporter for President Trump since the beginning. I know she has some times to Paul Ryan, but I think she would be loyal to Trump. Elise doesn’t have enough Republican support in the House to provide cover for Trump.
4. Doug Burgam – Don’t know too much about him but Trump likes him. He is a small state Governor that could use the power of his legislature and AG to cover President Trump. Does the ND Governor have enough balls to do that? Probably not.
5. J.D. Vance – Vance is a new Senator who could provide some cover for Trump. The problem is that he is new and not Establishment, so the Establishment won’t provide any help to Trump’s ticket.
6. Marco Rubio – Marco seems like the logical pick. He is Establishment, but I don’t think Marco would stab Trump in the back because he wants to be President some day. Marco provides the most political cover without alienating the MAGA base and President Trump. I think President Trump will select Marco because he will unite MAGA and the Establishment. Trump will go back to the same play book that worked in 2016.
Most of your picks are so far off…Scott and Rubio both have already turned on Trump since 2020.
I don’t trust Scott at all. Rubio wants to be President and his only path is through Trump, which makes it impossible for Rubio to undermine Trump.
In my books those that called Jan 6 a riot &/or insurrection &/or blames it on Trump are not for Thump.
Then there is their stance on the George Floyd mess.
What I find interesting is so many forget what many politicians did in the past in regards to all the crap the American Globalist have been doing to America and Trump.
My only goal is for Trump to win in 2024. Rubio brings political cover to Trump and lessens the resistance from the IC and Establishment. Yes, Rubio has a past, but he is not as bad as Nikki Haley. Again, Trump needs to select a VP who can provide political cover and expand the voting block. It is about WINNING, nothing else. If Trump doesn’t win, the country is over.
What? Do you think this is some kind of popularity contest or something?
The primary goal is not just to win, but to get the country back on the right path.
If “winning” is your only goal, what happens when a backstabbing VP or Congress takes out President Trump?
I’ll tell you what happens: Your “win” isn’t worth a bucket of warm spit!
we don’t need a Pence Clone in the VP seat.
And Stefanik votes against MAGA every chance she gets. I also would never trust Vance.
Stefanik votes that way because she is in leadership and has to vote with the Speaker. I don’t put too much stock into it.
The one thing about Rubio is that he knows the IC. I would think it would make it harder for Dems to steal the 2024 election with a Senator who sits on the Intelligence committees. Why would Rubio let Dems steal his only path to become President?
1. How would Rubio “stop” the steal?
2. You admit Rubio is an IC asset, yet claim that he it would be impossible to undermine Trump.
You mean like that wouldn’t be the perfect VP to undermine Trump like the IC did the last time? 👀
And have one of their own waiting in the wings if Trump was taken out or down by any means? 👀
Really?
Your admissions don’t make the logic to your conclusions.
The only path for Rubio to be president is through Trump. If Rubio undermined Trump as VP, he would ruin his chances in 2028. Do you think Rubio wants to end his presidential career before it starts?
You don’t get it.
Rubio wouldn’t have to do anything.
The IC could assassinate Trump, or force their Uniparty assets to impeach him.
And then Rubio and his IC masters would be in control.
And your are deflecting from that and it’s obvious.
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Ben Carson or JD Vance.
Trump absolutely has to pick someone the deep state fears and despises, otherwise Trump’s life won’t be worth a plugged nickel.
Why would Carson be anyone the DS fears? They do not care if he is black.
Carson’s name is the one constant here throughout this entire process. Even when names are rumored and isn’t there, when reality strikes, his name is there.
If the election is going to be “too big to rig”, he’s going to need someone from somewhere else than Florida, plus someone who would actually BE a good president in 2028!
from the article:
“I don’t believe that President Donald Trump has “massively failed” at anything. I’m not going to backbite, judge or criticize the man in the arena because he wears a different sandal or chooses a different weapon to fight the enemy.”
…and anyone on these pages who tries to convince us otherwise is deliberately trying to divide and conquer us.
on the v.p. question, i have seen ric grenell mentioned here and no where else.
i think there is some validity to the theory that it will be someone not publicly under consideration.
PT placed mr. grenell into several high profile, contentious administration positions – kind of a ” go to” guy,
who proved himself very loyal during AND after PT’s term.
i would be absolutely ok should he be the v.p. choice.
i think robert lighthizer might be an effective choice as well, and kryptonite to the deep state.
don’t usually engage in such speculation, but this one is almost irresistible.😁
Rick Grenell did prove his loyalty and MAGA politics. I don’t think he should be the VP candidate but I do think he should be given a position in the administration. J. D. Vance is apparently in the top three choices, but I don’t hear anyone talking about him good or bad. I thought Sarah Huckabee Sanders would be a good choice but she apparently is not interested.
No no no Rubio! He’s a snake! He didn’t say SQUAT during Russiagate!!!!! He was on the Senate intelligence committee and stayed completely quiet. If Trump picks him it will be the start of the same mistakes. TAKE IT TO THE BANK RUBIO IS NOT TRUMP’S FRIEND
This time and this man remind me of WWII and Winston Churchill, a flawed man (as we all are) who led a nation through years of deprivation, death and loss to a final victory. A brave man who truly loves his country. As Winnie said in his finest hour speech of June 1940, “Upon this battle depends the survival of Christian civilization.”
President Trump, like Winston, will try to do the right things that will bring our country through this dangerous time in our history. Like Winston, he is a leader of his people and, with our help, he may just succeed.
Keep your friends close but your enemies closer? It might be a reasonable strategy, since you know Rubio is compromised you can use that to your advantage. An issue is that the VPOTUS has significant authority and can work against the chief executive. Look no further than Mike Pence. At the start of the Trump presidency he was trusted but worked against Trump for his entire tenure, culminating in the coup.
I am very fond of Ben Carson, I believe he truly is one of the best men the country, bar none. I am not a religious man, but in this case I pray that we will not require Dr. Carson in the way you imply, Sundance. But I fear you are right.
The left are telling a lot of already debunked Lies about President Trump and He seemed a bit upset when he was trying to
tell people about them last night, I guess I have been watching President Trump since he first came down the escalator
and I do know that at no time has he ever called the military losers and suckers, He loves the military and they said that he would not take the chopper to the Cematory in rain. He stood in the rain and he was there with out anyone but the SS being along. There is no way that President Trump would ever turn
his back on anyone in the USA He is America First all the way and he is looking for someone who he can (like)
and get along with, He does not fit with RUBIO . He does however fit with a couple of really good people
The Gov of SD. JD Vance is a really good guy and a couple of the others he has vetted .
Tulsi Gabbard would be the best choice, she is honest, ethical and has bigger balls than many men.
How did this work out for you?
Obama takes immigration pitch to voters
David Jackson, USA TODAY
Jan 29, 2013
The rules of the road to citizenship. Backers of the Senate plan — notably key Republican Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida, a potential presidential candidate who is trying to sell an immigration bill to conservatives — want to tie the pathway to specific improvements in border security.
Obama has said he wants a clear pathway from the start, with no conditions.
I’m afraid Marco Rubio would seal Trump’s fate literally. There’s no upside for Trump to pick “Foam Party Bubble Boy” Rubio.
Clinton Media Drag Out Senate Gang-of-Eight Member Jeff Flake to Counter Trump Immigration Plan…
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2016/09/04/clinton-media-drag-out-senate-gang-of-eight-member-jeff-flake-to-counter-trump-immigration-plan/
Hell NO to Rubio!!
I agree with you that Dr. Carson would be a great choice. I don’t think either of the mentioned choices from Florida would be right. DeSantis kind of shot himself in the foot by campaigning against President Trump. Let Rubio stay in the Senate. He is far less dangerous to the country as one of 100 rather than one step out of the Presidency. JD Vance would be a good choice but he is needed more in the Senate than as VP. Republicans lost the seat that Sessions held when he was appointed AG only to abdicate the position. As for Nikki Haley, I believe I would rather see a rattlesnake as VP. At least a rattler warns you before the strike. With Nikki, all you know is that she puts Nikki above country and definitely above MAGA. I fear Bergham would be another Pence. One traitor a century is more than enough!!
I believe that Dr. Carson is a good and decent man, filled with faith and love for this country. If I am wrong, then I will admit it. There was always something phony about Pence that I don’t see in Dr. Carson. He was a great surgeon and I would like to see him become a great Vice-President!
When is someone going to remove the Gang of 8?
Gang of 8 Makes Immigration Deal
Jan. 28, 2013
A powerful group of senators from both parties has reached a deal on the outlines of a comprehensive immigration overhaul.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/01/gang-of-8-makes-immigration-deal/
Normally I try to read all the comments before posting. This time I am just going to layout my thoughts and see how they line.
I am looking at using the the usual role for the VP pick- his coat tails. In this case, I am looking at this as the Black versus Hispanic voting blocks. It could be an opportunity to continue gaining in the minority base.
There are more Latino voters than Black but that is balanced by the fact that a larger segment of the Latino/Hispanic population votes conservative. Blacks have been a solid block for the dems for a long time, harder to crack.
In terms of one of the lefts favorite modes of operation-appeasement, it could go either way. Either buffer the ill feelings from Latinos about the upcoming mass deportation (a huge portion of which will be Latinos) or try to court the black vote with a black VP. Not a game I really want to play.
So if potential gain are somewhat close, I am looking at correcting a huge problem from our Presidents first term. We have no time for that “keep your enemies closer” mindset. Rubio has made too many deals with the devil. We need to have trusted, ethical, patriot, very smart, MAGA at heart people around our President.
I believe we have one last shot.
They are gearing up for pandemic 2.0, WWW III, economic catastrophe, social/political unrest in the streets, and terrorist attacks from within.
We need a rock who will be another force to be reconned with. His quiet demeanor does not worry me, it’s a good balance with our Presidents personality. His quiet, steadfast resolve impressed me. Only one of that bunch I trust to do the job….. Dr. Benjamin Carson.
Think how well he could handle a potential Pandemic vs the traitor VP we had. Please don’t do that again.
Ric Grinnell. Everyone else is a head fake with the exception of Carson and Stefanik.
IMO Grinnell is much needed elsewhere…head of FBI, DOJ or CIA…to clean house. Just like he did with the German embassy. He’s quick, ruthless, and brave. If I were Trump, he’d be my number 1 janitor. I’d put him in at FBI first, then DOJ and then the CIA. 210 day stints=needs no Senate confirmation.
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Love Ric Grenell!! 💪🏻
“This is John Wick. I’d like to make reservations for… at least 51.”
🇺🇸Janitor of the Year!!🇺🇸
Here’s a horrific but possible scenario of the 2024 election.
President Trump wins, gets inaugurated and then……the evil IC takes him out.
Who do you want to be our next President? Carson or Rubio?
If you hesitate to answer for even a nanosecond then you are not MAGA.
Ben Carson with Kari Lake as his second.
Byron Donalds
I really like Byron Donalds too… but for the future. He’s young. He needs more experience b4 he is ready to be POTUS.
President and VP can’t be from the same state. Rubio said he would be willing to move. Don’t think he has a prayer of being picked. Byron Donald’s is a good man. I think he needs a little more experience under his belt but I don’t think he would sell America out. I think Sundance is right. After we come out the other side of this, Ben Carson and his calming effect will be necessary.
Peter Navarro.
Love this idea. Will take a heck of a lot of heavy lifting in the finance, manufacturing and trade knowledge Navarro was a huge part in getting things done during the first Trump presidency despite the traitors and rhinos at every turn. Navarro has been planning and strategizing since then and to this day while in prison. President Trump will need a whole posse of killers to fix things. I hope Steve Bannon is chosen as chief of staff as well. All fearless men who know where the land mines are and where the bodies are buried. Truth must come out!!! Canada and the rest of the western world depends on the MAGA getting in because we are all just circling the drain.
Econ position.
I won’t argue with that pick either. The team listed below certainly held their own and then some especially
with the tariffs on CHYNA and getting USA out of NAFTA!
Peter Navarro, Wilbur Ross and Robert Lighthizer were my personal favorites and we see Peter
is still fighting the ROT.
Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin
Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross
National Economic Council Director Larry Kudlow
US Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer
White House National Trade Council Director Peter Navarro
If it goes to that level…… it won’t matter who the VP is. What will matter to you is, are you prepared and able to do what YOU need to do?
Sure Carson is better . It’s a choice of easy meat for the propagandists and someone who is a Joe without dementia.
An “independents” and disgruntled Democrats vote getter is the winning option.
Do not rely on two alternatives. Think out of the box. Neither Carson nor Lake have an understanding of international economics.
President Trump does. Who would be able to fill those shoes?
This should be our top question.