There’s just something very sketchy about this public release of information from Judge Merchan in New York City. Merchan doesn’t have an integrity bone and the comment he is bringing attention toward is innocuous and random. However, Merchan could be trying to get Trump to violate the gag order aspect and talk about jurors; thereby making the sentencing worse.
According to information Merchan is providing the lawyers in the Trump case, a comment was made on the court’s FaceBook page indicating one of the jurors said the Trump guilty verdict was predetermined. [SOURCE] “My cousin is a juror and says Trump is getting convicted. Thank you folks for all your hard work!!!”
Why would Judge Merchan want to draw public attention to this?
Either something bigger is being diluted by this story, or perhaps Merchan is using it as a provocation to get Trump to talk about the jury and violate his gag order ahead of sentencing.
Or, perhaps Merchan is looking to create a mistrial to exit the case, or do it over again and extend the gag order. Also, why not include the entire quote from the Facebook Page:
Not sure what’s going on, but something. Something….
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Suspicious Cat remains, well, suspicious.
True or untrue I don’t believe the court can proceed with the trial’s course without a complete investigation. Today SCOTUS petition filed “irreparable harm” argument – which several Constitutional law scholars have cited as legitimate cause for SCOTUS intervention particularly given the issue at hand is a Presidential election and the Defendant the leading opposition candidate. Mark Levin and the Landmark Legal Foundation has made this recommendation as has Prof Dershowitz on numerous interviews. Read the filed SCOTUS Petition here https://x.com/CondemnedUSA/status/1799235003689173257
The reason why the judge called it out himself first, is to retain control of the issue in his own court.
He can do a review, then say no mistrial.
State of New York has violated Trumps Constitutional Rights
along with Election Interference.
Not sure whether the citizens of NYC or the legal profession are going to feel the need to remove Merchan first making him uncomfortable, as both whither before world scorn.
Even still, assuming Merchan dumps the case, he still needs to be disbarred, investigated for citizenship fraud, and deported as an enemy alien.
Not deported. Imprisoned.
Deported after imprisonment.
Still looking for the leaker of the Dobbs decision. The legal system in the USA is trash. (imho).
Who had the cocaine in the White House??
I am going to start with that gal who is behind the podium every day that says, “white house press secretary”. She has to be on some A+++ grade stuff. Work down the list from there.
Where is the Weiner laptop ?
We know certain people have copies, Rudy for one….
That is the Holy Grail of evidence right now. He had the Hunter laptop, not sure he’s got the Weiner laptop.
Permit me to speculate. Merchan may be attempting to dodge a huge rock rolling down hill in his direction.
Merchan knows all the Banana Republic court room tactics he employed in POTUS Trump’s trial . The communication in the community of New York and USA Appellate Judges may have informed him that clear reversal of the guilty verdict is a forgone conclusion.
So, execute a stop gap.
You know you’ve got them when you’ve got the court copping to a lesser crime.
The is the first step in the implosion process. Look for the rest of the cases to follow a similar path.
Well, the Ga. case has already effectively imploded (or had its stop gap ripcord pulled!) with everything halted until the “is fanny disqualified?” question is resolved, and that won’t be until Oct, so after the election.
Both Smith cases (the two most important ones, in terms of attempting to derail PDJT’s campaign, IMHO both have that meese argument, and its now being argued by Cannon.
If Merchan calls this a mistrial, to me thats sn indication they intended to have stopgaps, and question is will Cannon go along, or just “take it under advisement” and have the case continue?
She seems to be pretty good at seeing thru Smiths manipulations, and not falling for them.
If she hears the arguments, and then instead if ruling just “takes it under advisement” she can continue to embarass and expose Prosecutorial misconduct, while gaving the dismissal due to invalid appointment in her back pocket, invokeable at any time, at her discretion.
The Merchan case in NYC, while understandably getting all of the attention, as intended is IMHO a distraction FROM the main cases being handled by Smith.
Could this be the reason??
That PDJT’s lawyers may lift the case immediately to the Federal level arguing that a judgement will cause Irreparable Harm?
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2024/06/07/judge-merchan-provides-information-indicating-juror-in-trump-case-may-have-predetermined-guilty-verdict/comment-page-4/#comment-10823771
I think what happened is the Deepstate miscalculated that this was going to make President Trump more popular than before.
They are now trying to undo their mess before sentencing because if it gets to that point they know President Trump would be a martyr with even more donations and more people voting for him.
>> “because if it gets to that point they know…”
Really? Maybe they should know, but do they really know? So far I have seen no indication that their aspirations are ever tempered by reality.
Personally I think they cannot wait to see Trump jailed as their crowning achievement, without the slightest concern of setting up a precedent for the retribution they so much deserve. In short they simply cannot help themselves.
I like to say they have no brakes. They have no reverse gear.
IMHO, this is dictatorship by committee, and like definition of a camel is a horse, designed by committee, it shows.
Committees endure a lot of infighting, positioning, backstabbing, alliance building, point scoring etc. all in the process of reaching a concensus on a PLAN.
They then all agree to the plan, and to stick to it, they COMMIT to it.
None of them want to revisit the issue, and go thru all of that, all over again, in order to come up with a new plan.
Human nature they prefer certainty to uncertainty.
This is a quality you don’t see with a single dictator; a Stalin, Hitler Saddam may be insane, but they can be fascile in their thinking, and so change direction.
By the way we have seen them operate, its obvious there is no one behind the curtain, no ONE like say Obama, it is a committee operating by consencus.
KABUKI THEATER….. Lawfare rather than have an actual appeal and smack down with prejudice. Let’s claim welp we had a juror mess things up all good let’s go home and forget this ever happened. No it happened and you will pay for letting it happen. Sick em Donald..
I agree SD. I smelled a rat as soon as I heard this. They do now know calling him “convicted felon” only made him rise in polls.
I think you’re right, must be some other reason, like extending, repeating trial to spread the slander again before election.
Would there be a different judge or same?
Stalinist “self immolated party/professions/media” calling the victim “convicted”
Tanya CHUTKAN? LOL!!!!
Interesting tweets from Gay Travis. Did Cuck Sexton chime in? Lol
Lots of newbies here…. so easy to spot.
Wasnt he one of the Sea Island/Ron DS bunch?
This is simply bait for Trump to add an unsupported angry argument on appeal in the hopes of tainting the entire appeal.
When you add longshot arguments on appeal, the appellate panel takes that one argument, chops it apart, and paints the rest of the appeal with its weakness. Better to stick with provable errors of law.
‘There’s just something very sketchy about this public release of information from Judge Merchan in New York City.’
My first thought. But I didn’t go to the place you went. I figured Merchan and team had to get out of this in some way, the boomerang effect has been rather dramatic.
👀👀👀
The posting was on the Appellate Division’s page, so Merchan did not have control over it. The AD is no doubt consulting with Merchan, but it is the AD’s decision what to do and what information to release.
Thank you for that information.
Sounds like a means to delay the sentencing, and thus the appeal.
And keep the gag (?)
yep. Keep the game running, while holding the ball.
Exactly
“It looks increasingly likely to be a hoax/troll”…
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1799174802147553402.html
Anderson just posted that he is just a sh*tposter….
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1799185151672651781.html
Okay, so President Trump’s lawyers just believe him because he said so? LOL! I don’t think so.
How do we know he doesn’t have cousin or even a friend who was on the jury?
We don’t .
Kyle Cheney. Not buying his story.
No matter if the post is trolling or for real, it needs to be investigated, amiright legal eagles? Somehow somebody needs to determine the truth (oh wait…forgot for a minute the post truth world we inhabit).
Would an investigation delay the sentencing date?
Merchan is making this public because he has to. It is both getting ahead of the story, and getting ahead of law, meaning covering his rear so that in any future investigation he at least can’t be accused of hiding it.
The idea he released it as an attempt to get Trump to violate a gag order is not sound reasoning.
He’s doing what the Appellate Division says. It was posted on their page. But the AD does need to control the narrative, too.
Agreed.
Just remember that this was dropped on a Friday so it disappears by Monday.
If poster is a troll/s’poster, it says alot about the outside access of I would guess is an official government website.
He apparently posted in the public comment section, so it wasn’t a question of hacking.
Even if this was a fake post by a shi!tposting troll, Trump needs to insist on a public hearing with the troll subpoenaed.
Troll would probably take the Fifth, but Trump just got a great “appearance of impropriety” argument for setting aside the verdict that Merchan and Bragg need to take away.
Trump could also use the appearance of impropriety and possible juror irregularities argument to get the Appellate Division to stay the sentencing pending his appeal.
Could it possibly be that after the House Members started Questioning the DOJ about Merchan, his daughter, and also Collangelo, that it was decided maybe it would be better to find a way to drop the charges, or SOMETHING….. to help Trump in some way.
That Judge did some real CRAZY things during that trial, that just might come back to bite him in the arse.
The Dems probably know this trial as full of errors, but they were planning on running on “convicted felon” because they thought the appeals process would not be over by the election.
250M people would go absolutely nuts if PT is sentenced to a year or more for something that is not a crime while you know who most likely did commit a true crime and gets off Scot free.
So IMO the left knows the only way to get you know who off without massive and endless blowback to his ole man is a mistrial.
Gaslighting alert!!!! Sketchy does begin to describe it. This is how the corrupt judge gets out of his corruption… Too bad the damage is done to his and the legal system’s credibility. Always assuming either had credibility to begin with.
This is all to stem the fallout.
It could be just a troll … no doubt. False hope for us.
However……these are New York’s finest, 12 persons that within less than 8 hours deliberations unanimously found an innocent man guilty of ALL 34 bogus felonies.
They are all hopelessly ideologically fanatic Dems.
It is ENTIRELY conceivable that 1 or 6 or 7 of them talked. And we know they prejudged.
Anybody else think that the comment could’ve been planted by an alphabet agency after the fact to create an “out” for the Demonrats? Can anyone be found that saw the post before this announcement? They do need to raise more money for the election, and a re-trial (doesn’t have to be legal for them to conduct one, as nothing so far has been) provides that opportunity. I expect that it would happen immediately also, they “must save democracy”or something to that effect.
Eisen and Weinstein.
Or however their names are spelled…are not to be underestimated…
Evil to their core but brilliantly so
They seek only to destroy.
I was thinking we need to consult Liz Cheney or the like to understand how the D’s think and then we Might understand their intent with this
Even though the Appellate Division (especially the Manhattan district, where Trump would file his appeal), may have some TDS judges, the AD also is going to want to protect its reputation. It needs to show publicly that it did a thorough investigation of this
The effect on Merchan is secondary to their consideration.
Trump also got a great argument for error in not sequestering the jury, at least during deliberations, but I can’t recall if he asked for it.
One needs only to look at the last comment from “Michael Anderson” in the thread in question. Referring to his cousin, he states: “Now we are married,” followed by a heart emoji and a grinning face emoji. Troll.
This news is less about the comment itself, however, or its veracity. The news is about the judge’s action, and the questions it raises as to why.
Ah, OK, gotcha. That makes more sense…. It’s been a long week — My brain is a bit fried tonight…. Thanks for the clarification…. : ^ )
Incest legal interference? LOLOL!!!! Never heard of that one.
Could it be that the NY power brokers noticed the announcement by the TX Governor on CNBC about the new TXSE, meant to provide a refuge for all the corporations that have suffered under the imposition DEI and ESG under the rules in NY. They are seeing in real time the potential consequences of their miscalculation with the bogus Trump trial and might be seeking a way out.
Don’t forget that the property valuation/insurance fraud trial in front of Engeron also made real estate investors hesitant to invest more in NY. The assurance that “You have nothing to worry about. We were just going after Trump” probably wasn’t that persuasive.
As long as your politics are the right ones, you have nothing to worry about……
Which is the true definition of fascism.
Black Rock is behind the TXSE.
The involvement of BlackRock & Citdel, has the putrid smell of Rove Bush RINOs to me. I’m keeping my hand on my wallet here in Texas. I recently discovered one of BlackRock’s new construction, purpose-built for-rent housing developments was being built nearby.
KISS method, combined with what Sundance has taught us about the Lawfare strategy, dictates the following stream:
1) Convict
2) Release evidence requiring mistrial
3) He’s guilty, but got off on a technicality
4) Move on to the next gambit. Collect what you can from shifts in public perception.
Juror misconduct is not what one would call a technicality (those are usually procedural rules, evidentiary issues, etc.)
Juror misconduct taints the whole case.
….as does prosecutorial misconduct II
Suburban soccer moms ain’t that smart. Their close encounter of the first kind awaits the day when the EBT cards get you nothing.
I thought Suburban soccer moms were upper middle class. why would they have EBT cards?
Guess where the inner city crowd is going to go in search of food and drink when the cards no longer work.
While it may not be legally correct (nothing in this trial has been), I expect that the MSM to likely use the phrase that most people can relate to, and call it a technicality.
Probably. And Biden would still say the verdict should be respected.
Exactly. What Biteme desperately needs is to get the college crowd that are going elsewhere because of HAMAS to return to the fold. Can’t lose Ann Arbor and expect to carry Michigan.
Suburban soccer moms ain’t that smart.
True, but they do understand juror misbehavior more than “technicality.”
“Jurors were warned not to talk about the trial” is fairly easy to grasp.
Dunno. They are living in suburban bliss, and only have to drive to soccer practices.
Bet they use husband’s credit card for dinner each night.
Now who is smarter…dumb husband or smart soccer mom?
Plus they love to vote opposite of “him”…. cancels his vote….ask me how I know this
LOL!!! OMG…a new form of voter fraud!!!! I wish I did not have the same hair color!!!
Get a map of Minneapolis. Locate Lake Street. Hennepin and Lake is one of the most upscale neighborhoods in the Twin Cities. Now go east on Lake, to the other side of I-35. Start at Nicollet, and proceed to Chicago, and ultimately to Hiawatha. This zone is a model of impoverished ethnic diversity, with the usual victim mentality everywhere on display.
This is happening all around the Twin Cities. Andover is threatened by Coon Rapids, Jordan by Savage, Lakeville by Burnsville. Wealthy neighborhoods/suburbs now routinely have ethnically diverse, poor, violent neighborhoods right next door. Thirty years of planning went into creating this pattern– it is no accident.
If this is true, what happens to the juror? Will she be in danger from attack from her own TDS peeps for messing up? What will her legal consequences be? Will she be outed?
Never forget…they are out to get President Trump, no doubt…
Who they are REALLY out to get…
Is YOU….
Trump’s trials are not proper trials; they are shameless charades where verdicts are in search of justification.
These so-called trials are actually indications of illegal activities that Democrats have been engaged in, and which they are projecting upon Trumps, a practice they have been engaged in from the get-go, the “Russia, Russia, Russia” hoax being the most outstanding example.
An excuse to blame some anonymous juror when the appeals court overturns the conviction so Merchan and the DA’s office can see “we had no idea, it’s not our fault the trial was over-turned, it’s that juror’s fault and her’s alone!”
….as long as it’s overturned who G.A.S.?
Many very informed commentors here with very different, sometimes conflicting, opinions. We’ll see what happens.
Definetly needs time for this story to ripen, or “play out”,…give it two weeks.
Dirtbag judge and lawfare scum are up to something.
I smell skunks.🦨🦨🦨
Dirt bag judge and law are scum…you nailed it…
Arrrgggghhhh….spelled discorrect strikes again…!!!!!
Juror story, Hunter Biden trial story, Israel leadership chaos story and other coming stories are distractions as administrative state attempts to take out Clarence Thomas before MAGA reacts.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/clarence-thomas-blasted-after-disclosing-paid-trips-beyond-belief/ar-BB1nPSqC
Gimme a ticket for an aeroplane
Ain’t got time to take a fast train
Lonely days are gone
I’m a’goin’ home
My baby just wrote me a letter…..
The trial was a Biden doj production. It now appears Biden is done and they know it. This could be a sign the rats are jumping the ship before Biden exits. Just a theory.
They’ll never quit…..Biden is just another gerbal in a piranha tank.
Sounds like a setup to me.
What a joke.
Leftists never think their tyranny through. My belief is that this dropped because the trial and conviction has backfired big time, and the leftists have finally realized that they cannot make Trump the Nelson Mandela of America. So this will likely delay his sentencing, and possibly give them an out.
Who killed Kennedy?
Let’s try a longshot theory on the assumption there are no coincidences. Suppose the left decided Biden was toast and the new strategy is to sub Hillary in at the convention. Hillary admitted to a campaign finance violation involving misleading “legal expenses” that were the monies used to launch the Russia collusion bs. Continuing to prosecute Trump would only draw attention to Hillary’s crime, remind the electorate of all the left’s dirty tricks to get Trump, and highlight our justice system’s double standard. Besides, lawfare had backfired. So, kill the hush money case and leave the door open for HRC. The childish FB posts reek to high heaven.
i doubt they would choose hillary. i think she is more unlikeable than VP Harris.
Agree Yossarians theory is off base.
The verdict is already in! And once a jury files its verdict with the court, I would say the defendant cannot be retried for the same “crimes”.
I’m no lawyer, but all I have heard about double jeopardy. Trump is waiting sentencing. Jeopardy starts when the jury is sworn in, and it ends when the jury reaches a verdict which both have happened.
My thinking goes with they are scared chitless of what is coming when Trump becomes President. Could be something circulating around that has them spooked.
As several commenters have noted, the conviction is officially recorded at sentencing. Until then the judge may be able to set it aside.
I do not read others posts before I post my thoughts. But I’m sure some may have the same thoughts.
What should happen a complete independent investigation of the NY legal system, top to bottom.
Does anyone have a tag on this particular “Michael Anderson”?
Not an uncommon name…
So who is this guy?
And who is his cousin?
Likely hoaxer. Calls himself a sh*poster in a later post.
I posted links upstream.
The irony of course being that everyone already knew the jury had predetermined the conviction because they’re Democrats in a Democrat voting precinct with a Democrat DA, a Democrat judge, and the senior counsel for the prosecution left the Biden regime to join the get-Trump effort. All things a juror would easily know.
They had their marching orders. As loyal Democrats, they didn’t have to discuss the outcome. Everyone in that courtroom knew what the jury was going to do in advance.
Including the jurors.
Don’t lose sight of that. This is not an “aha! Gotcha!” text. We already know the outcome was predetermined and that this was a kangaroo court.
Most likely, we get to see this text because they’re trying to avoid sunlight that comes with the appeals process.
Yes….we all know….left and right alike.
In a way, the “news” is just more pretending. We have all the proof we need that the trial was a Democrat- run fraud.
She radiates cold shafts of broken glass
Face down in the pig bin
Saying keep on digging
What does she hope to find?
How charade they are.
This comes right after the “news” reported that the perps of all this injustice will be treated the same way but for real, not “Trumped” up charges…..
They know what’s coming, look for them to start disappearing to places without extradition agreements soon…..
Ain’t gonna happen….the administrative state IS them…they have nothing to fear.
Never believe the mantra “they have nothing to fear”, because it is only good for the length of time that the fairy has dusted it with the “fairy gold dust of protection”.
Hmmm….I will stick with they have nothing to fear.
Until they do.
Who is going to prosecute prosecutorial misconduct?
The perpetrators of said misconduct?
Their fellow travelers in the instigation of same?
“They have nothing to fear” is not a mantra…
It is a fact.
The judicial system has been corrupted by the administrative state and there is no functioning entity left to prosecute their misdeeds.
This is likely something to muddy the waters: declare a mistrial, but still refer to Trump as a “convicted felon” (the jury got it right in the end except for this oh-so-horrible-travesty-of-the-judicial-process), then start ANOTHER trial and put Trump under a gag order again and make him show up in court for weeks of testimony instead of being on the campaign trail.
….A probable scenario…we know that they are not held to account for their actions….and that until they are they will never quit.
That’s whatI think! The trial ended too early and the other trials won’t start soon!
Keep him gagged and in court!!!!
This might be the guy – what I saw was a self-described “shitposter”.
https://x.com/SaltyGoat17/status/1799226693053247935
oops…I guess the guy I posted above is a porn star. So supposedly it’s this guy and UNFORTUNATELY if it is him I think it’s back to business as usual
https://x.com/broad_bend/status/1799273892776960176
There are likely AT LEAST 200.000 Michael Anderson’s in the US alone….that’s a WAG….and maybe bronco johnny long horn is THE MA we’re looking for….
Or maybe not….
The NY Supreme Court notified Merchan about this Facebook post. THEN he wrote the letters. Eleven days after the post appeared. He is no longer working “on his own”, he has higher ups watching.
Laura Loomer post shared on Telegram.
…do tell…
The dog caught the car, but it’s clear this case did not have the effect they thought it would. It galvanized support for President Trump. The other lawfare cases are not going well for them and are not going to happen before the election. They could now be thinking that a mistrial is the best outcome. A higher court overturning the conviction would take away their talking point. But with a mistrial they can still say Trump is guilty but that he got away with it on a technicality. And they avoid the sunlight and scrutiny of a higher court overturning it.
They’re going to jail him…maybe prison….they will stop at nothing to maintain control…..they ttuly wish him dead.
Nothing can or will stop them….
Our republic is lost….DJT is the last defender to stand in the breach…
I pray that I am wrong….but name one other person…one other entity…..one other organization ..
That can save this republic….
Take a chill pill, and stop being so melodramatic.
If you wanted a ride on a carosel ya shouldn’t have bought a ticket, for a roller coaster, and eggs should not play with rocks.
So sit back, strap in and enjoy the ride.
IMHO, of coarse.
God.
Many have observed that all the Trump persecutions/prosecutions/”trials” are obviously theater, based on obviously ginned-up illegitimate set-ups and charges, prosecutorial misconduct, and gross judicial miscarriages, all way beyond normal error.
So much so that it is also obvious that those doing all this knew, and know, that all is obvious to everyone.
So that the only question is: For what purposes?
One might think of a few:
-Triggering reactions to surveil and add to the Big Brother database on every human fed by 100% panopticon surveillance.
-Potential opportunity to crack down hard if some react with violence.
-Reinforcing the narrative “Orange Man Bad” with those already thinking that.
-More rallying points for the neo-Maoist/Marxist mob (see the “Hon. Jeffrey K. Oing” stuff, for example).
But the main purpose could be:
-To serve as more distraction from the tectonic plates moving under our feet:
A deindustrialized US with a weakened military pushing toward starting and losing a major war, as a way to deal with a sovereign debt now in a self-escalating feedback loop past the point of no return, and a way to turn the US into a totalitarian state under “multi-polar global governance” after losing that war.
*******
It appears that the overwhelming majority of Americans are fully mesmerized by all the noise, few are tracking the tectonics.
A good magician always distracts the audience before the slight of hand.
Hollywood used to be a place in the US known for stories, fiction and fabrications, but now it seems the establishment in DC turned the US itself into Hollywood.
Corrupt judge Merchan knows full well that this abomination of a trial/verdict will not survive the appeal process and that there is a significant risk that the appeals courts might have nasty things to say about him. Why risk it? His place in history is secure. Declaring a mistrial allows him to exit the mess on his own terms.
They don’t even want an appeal, maybe that’s part of this….
This comment was posted on Freerepublic by poster “kabab”. It quotes a Constitutional Law Professor from Yale, Jeb Rubinstein, on the opportunity the Trump team has to lift this case immediately to the Federal level. Could this be a (or “the”) reason the Dark Powers try to have the case vacated before it reaches a verdict, and before it reaches a Federal Court?
Or Merchan wants to end the case now before further investigations reveal his corruption. Could this be what the judge fears?
Yale Law Professor Has Brilliant Plan for Trump Legal Team to Overturn ‘Guilty’ Verdict Before the Election.
“Could Trump actually be put in jail? You bet he could.”
“Each count of this 34 count indictment has a maximum penalty attached to it of four years. Well, that’s four times 34. That’s a maximum sentence, prison sentence of 136 years.”
“Will he do that? Of course not. He won’t. But could he sentence him to some incarceration? Yes, he could. Will he? Nobody knows.”
Yale Law Professor Jeb Rubenfield, who teaches Advanced Constitutional Law, counseled the Trump legal team on a course of action that could potentially see his ‘guilty’ verdict overturned before the 2024 election.
“Now, when is sentencing scheduled for? Well, Judge Merchan has set it for July 11th.”
“Will something happen between then and now? Yes. Trump’s team will ask for a judgment notwithstanding the verdict.”
“They’ll ask for Judge Merchan to throw out the jury’s verdict and find Trump innocent despite the verdict, and Judge Merchan will turn that down.”
“Then there will be arguments about what the sentence should be briefing on both sides, possibly even a hearing. Then on July 11th, sentencing will be announced. And at that point, that triggers the Trump team’s right to appeal.”
“To what court would they appeal? Well, they would appeal to New York’s appellate level court… And after the appellate court rules, then the case could go up to New York’s highest court, which is actually called the Court of Appeals… And after that, the case could go up to the Supreme Court.”
“And ultimately it might well go to the Supreme Court where finally we will have a definitive, conclusive ruling on whether the conviction was constitutional or not.”
Professor Rubenfield identified a massive, glaring problem with this legal appeals process.
“Of course that would take years, and that’s a problem here. Why is it a problem? It’s a problem because the election will have taken place and if this conviction is unlawful and unconstitutional, it could have an effect on that election.”
“There are surveys, many polls in which a substantial number of American voters say they will not vote for Trump if he is convicted of a felony. Many independents say that, many Republicans even say that. If that’s true, an unlawful conviction in this case could interfere with and in fact decide the outcome of the next election of the next President of the United States”
“Even if the conviction were reversed on appeal years later, that effect could not be undone in legal terms. That’s called IRREPARABLE HARM. The irreparable harm, once again, is that a ‘convicted felon’ could affect the election, could decide the election.”
“And if so, then District Attorney Bragg and Judge Merchan will have UNLAWFULLY INTERFERED with the election and decided the outcome of the next election through unconstitutional means. And no years long appeal could have any effect on that.”
This is the critical point that Professor Rubenfield makes: There is another way.
“Well, is that where we are? So are we stuck with that possibility? Well, believe it or not, there is one other avenue that the Trump lawyers could pursue. They could sue in federal court and ask for an emergency temporary restraining order.”
“Restraining order of what? Well, let me tell you something that you might not know. You’ve probably been reading in the press if you’ve been reading about this case. The Trump is already a “convicted felon.” The jury has convicted him. He’s a “convicted felon.”
“Well, guess what? THAT’S NOT TRUE.”
“You’re not a convicted felon because of a jury verdict. You’re not convicted unless the judge enters a judgment of guilt against you. The judge still has the power, as I told you before, to throw out that verdict and enter a judgment of acquittal. You are not convicted until the judge enters that judgment of guilt.”
“Now in New York, it’s very likely that Judge Merchan will enter that judgment of guilt against Trump on the same day that he issued sentencing. That’d be July 11th.”
“So what would this federal case be about in this federal action? Trump would sue District Attorney Bragg and other state actors and ask the judge, the federal judge, for an emergency temporary restraining order halting Judge Merchan from entering that judgment of guilt until the federal courts have had an opportunity to review and rule on the serious constitutional arguments that exist here.”
“Let me tell you why I think that might be a very important thing to happen. Because going after, criminally, a former president of the United States and somebody who is running for president now, that’s a VERY BAD LOOK for this country.”
“It’s an especially bad look when the folks bring in the case and the judge deciding it are members of the opposing political party. And it’s an even worse look when the crime is so unclear that the state is hiding the ball about what the actual charges are right up through the trial and indeed into the trial.”
“And even now, we don’t know exactly what the jury found Trump guilty of. If you’re going to go after a former president and somebody who’s running for president now the poll leading candidate, if you’re a member of the other party and you’re going to do that, YOU BETTER HAVE THE GOODS. You better not be pursuing some novel legal theory where you have to hide the ball. It’s not even clear what the charges are.”
“That could be a very dangerous precedent for this country. A very bad and dangerous precedent.”
“That’s why it’s so important for a federal court to review the constitutionality of this prosecution and decide, was it constitutional, was it not?”
“The only way to achieve that before the election takes place is for the Trump team to file an action in federal court and ask the federal court to temporarily hold off the entry of the judgment of guilt until the federal courts and maybe the Supreme Court itself can on an emergency basis adjudicate the likelihood of success of these constitutional arguments.”
“If that doesn’t happen, then that IRREPARABLE HARM danger that I mentioned before, well that’s where we are.”
“But if it does happen, the nation could get a ruling from the federal courts, even the Supreme Court of the United States, before the election takes place.”
“Maybe that’s what the nation needs and maybe that’s what the law requires here. So if I were Trump’s lawyer, that’s probably what I would do.”
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4242994/posts?page=12#12
A vacated trial (due to what the Left will call a technicality) with the possibility looming that the case will be brought again, may look like a better opportunity than having the case torn to shreds by a Federal Court? A possible reason for this strange letter?
This is the most information intensive, cogent, and authoritatively credible comment on this thread.
Blushing……
“There are surveys, many polls in which a substantial number of American voters say they will not vote for Trump if he is convicted of a felony. Many independents say that, many Republicans even say that.
I find that very hard to believe. I could make the opposite argument. Most of the post verdict polls are showing no change in President Trump’s favorability. I suspect the polls the author is referring are of people who were never going to vote for President Trump regardless of the verdict.
I think it was polls taken well before the trial – hypotheticals. Polls taken after the trial, if well done, show how people really react. As far as I know most of the polls post-trial showed very little movement, in some polls PDJT even increased his poll numbers.
Obvious odor of mendacity aside, why the delay?
The posting preceded the verdict. Whoever monitors the court site should have flagged this and advised the judge before the trial resumed the next day, and the post should have been immediately investigated (with the jury sequestered from that point forward).
Wait is this going to ruin my plan of making and selling
“Convicted Felon 2024”
T-shirts with Trumps mugshot on it???
Bummer. I planned on retiring with that idea.
Seriously, someone needs to do that. Take their label and OWN it!