This combative gaslighting from the US Senate about what FISA-702 does is off the proverbial charts. In this interview, Senator Lindsey Graham starts foaming at the mouth yelling about something that doesn’t even exist. This is nuts.
FISA-702 ONLY pertains to the private conversations of AMERICANS, not – I repeat – not any intercept or communication method that has to do with a foreigner or foreign adversary.
The only time FISA-702 applies is when an American person is captured in an intercept that has targeted a foreign person. Surveillance of foreign actors, foreign persons and intercepting communication of foreign entities does not require any FISA authority at all. Foreign actors do not have constitutional protection.
FISA-702 only applies when the intercept of a foreign person is connected to communication with an American person. In that specific scenario FISA-702 gives the U.S. government the authority to query the database of the American person.
However, the database search queries of Americans, people who have no contact with any foreign person, is the privacy aspect that has been abused by the intelligence apparatus. Senator Lindsey Graham comes unglued as he starts gaslighting on this issue. WATCH (prompted):
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The Deep State supporters are so committed to keeping the unconstitutional surveillance system of the American people in place, they will lie and makeup any fictitious scenario imaginable to retain it. This is nonsense.
Miss Lindsey Graham was born without marbles. That’s why he is called Miss Lindsey Graham.
Oh! You mean a different kind of marbles.
Lindsay who is ‘not gay’ but is a “batchelor” might be a deeply compromised card carrying member of the Gay Old Party faction of the Mass Corruption Complex
My guess is the comprimat on his buddy songbird McCain was that he sold out his fellow POW while he was tortured in Vietnam
Lindsay probably allegedly possibly has a weird and perhaps incriminating personal history
Or…the Vietnam torture story was fiction and McCain would sip champagne and eat caviar at the real Hanoi Hilton with his hosts…laughing about how he really nailed that howl in pain line for the theater his fellow “prisoners” to take in. He wasn’t an unwilling songbird, but rather, an instrumental collaborator with his “captors.”
Just saying the above story may be closer to the truth than the story that’s told about the nightengale’s song.
Thanks for the TRUE information on McCain while captive. It was even said that when the POW’s were released McCain didn’t look starved and sickly at all.
Hmmmm . . . I’m not a fan of John McCain; but I have seen photos of him at the time of his release from POW, he looked pretty bad.
His Dad, who was a Senator said he was well taken care of…Treated injuries and treated him like the important son of a Senator. Let’s just say he wasn’t treated like everyone else that actually had it rough…Maybe we should believe his Dad? Or campaign stuff, because they never lie…
John McCain’s father was an Admiral in the Navy. He served in several posts in Washington, including the Legislative Affairs Office and as Chief of Naval Information..
Yep. Whatever he was at the time, there’s a not small article about how well his son was being taken care of.
Compared to others ? That’s the benchmark nit compared to those who were not captured.
Watch the Dear Hunter (70’s movie, fantastic and a classic). It depicts things that those captured had to endure.
Deer Hunter, yes, very hard to watch, and probably not nearly as brutal as reality. I still liked De Niro back then.
The Deer Hunter it was great. DeNiro was great then. What he evolved into I have no words.
I agree. No clue what happened to him….or do we? I wonder if he has diddler skeletons? IDK but if I was a betting man……
He was just following in the footsteps of George HW Bush, supposedly shot down naval aviator in the Pacific theater, a US submarine happened to be right there, scooped him out of the water.
This naval aviator who joined the Navy ten days before his father, Prescott Bush, had his banks seized by he government for trading with the enemy – acting as Hitler’s banker to the west – the checks for bullets and bombs used to kill GI’s still had to clear. Bush family made a fortune on American blood and guts. GHWB, the son of Prescott, useful to shielding him for being disloyal and a traitor, made into an American hero by the alphabet agencies of the time. Just like McCain. Both works of fiction to cover for actual traitors.
Some say Union bank’s docs & records were stored under a building in lower Manhattan. Some say those records no longer exist, destroyed in a series of explosions triggered by jet fuel melting steel girders.
Now, that all makes sense!
Because he was well taken care of while he was there. His Dad even wrote a big article in the Stars and Stripes while his son was there saying how well he was treated.
They all can’t stop lying and are not going to stop.
I would imagine the FBLie or CIA has plenty of stuff on Lady G to keep him in line.
Same with the new GOP speaker…Apparently being blackmailed because of secret gay liaisons.
This “person” is a demon!
One of our Treepers often posts a pic of an ugly little snarling girl with a cat who appears to be her feline twin.
Would be perfect right now. No one doesn’t think this sh!t stinks.
LoL, thank you! 😀
Only too glad to oblige 😉
“However, the database search queries of Americans, people who have no contact with any foreign person, is the privacy aspect that has been abused by the intelligence apparatus.”
Database search queries.
Searching a database for information on an American that has already been collected, just not used yet.
Nobody bats an eye over data collected on every American, regardless of who they might be connected to.
Exactly.
Turns out to be quite profitable for them and their contacts with these public-private partnerships. Lots of ways to gain fortunes at someone else’s expense with minimal work on their part.
How many hundreds of thousands of times did they access and search US citizens, violating a flotilla of federal laws?
I am thinking of it like the local police just randomly searching every house in the neighborhood collecting every detail on what each house contains.
Without the homeowner knowing.
If at some point in the future, something you own is deemed illegal, the local police already have the evidence needed to throw you in prison.
I am thinking if at some point you own something, someone important covets or they think you have (land, house, etc…) you will be either extorted behind closed doors or in a courtroom. God this sound familiar. Why?
We should be talking of millions or even billions of times over so many decades when you factor in all U.S. citizens, small businesses, charitable organizations, churches, etc.
What we have direct knowledge of is only the tip of the iceberg.
I’ve brought that up more than a few times. By what constitutional authority do these databases even exist?
No database? No search. Thank you.
No such agency will answer that query with anything approaching a straight answer except “matters of National Security”.
Or “compromising an ongoing investigation.” Yes, that works really well for them too! They never have to answer for anything.
Also, regarding Graham saying he wants “to know what they are saying about Lindsey Graham.” My first thought was, who gives a crap what they are saying about you? You should be concerned about what they are saying about blowing up our infrastructure, what the illegals that you have allowed to continue to come in are planning to do to the country. But, no, you’re worried about what they are saying about you. So clear that you are all in this for yourselves. American people — meh! Constitution — meh!
I hope you are all exposed so we can get past this dangerous and tyrannical time in our history. I pray some of you, if you have a patriotic bone in your bodies, will actually defend the Constitution and the people here rather than worrying about a war created by Joe Biden to steal money from our treasury.
If y’all are being blackmailed — it’s time to fall on your swords so we can get on with the actual business of saving this country. Stop wasting time and money on lying and worrying about yourselves to the destruction of this great country rapidly going down to the ash heap of history. Pathetic losers!
Did you get that, Lindsey?!
Drama queen.
Agreed he is a drama queen. But in this case it may be necessary. Remember, they monitor our data anyway, legal or not. There is likely a large dataset that indicates we are much more upset than was expected.
Well a QUEEN certainly,…
don’t know about the drama part,..
Malibu Barbie didn’t ask Lindsay how open borders are a worse threat for foreign actors.
Lindsey Grahamnesty has been a compromised RINO for decades now. We have no representation.
Utter garbage by this pathetic weasel. You could sit right in front of him, spew truth bombs for half an hour while calling him out for every slimy thing he’s done, and he wouldn’t flinch. Totally amoral and compromised.
Yet he is but one example of so many who continue to get re-elected…
You just described congress
“query the database of the American person” – this is retrospective, which means the American has already been surveilled. A 4th Amendment warrant, on the other hand, would be prospective.
Also, Graham is spouting lies. We are not at war, Graham. And our border is not broken, it’s being violated – the law works, it’s not being enforced.
There’s nothing new about any of this. The govt is completely corrupt. These loudmouths lie incessantly. End of story.
Thus far, there doesn’t seem to be anything that anybody can do about it.
Panic in DC is off the charts.
And something for every Treeper to consider.
We have legitimate Treeper foreigners as well as foreign actors with devious purposes on this site.
Every time any of us engage directly, or unknowingly, with one, we become a potential target. 👀
Just sayin
Well, I think we know, at this point, if we come here, we are the enemy…lol. To those that have much to hide.
Overwhelmingly, I think most of us DGAF. Look all they want. What else can they do, that hasn’t been done?
Some of us, have been there, done that, in our younger years. So imprisonment or whatever isn’t a big deal. De-personing you isn’t that big a deal to some I suppose. Im old now, so whatever, ya know?
Some people just have that DNA. Not GAF is part of my blood. Indian blood, jus sayin!… 😉
I feel ya. Same here for the most part.
But some don’t, so I like to at least give them a ‘heads-up’ so they can decide for themselves their personal risk levels.
Just trying to help those who may be risk averse.
I can understand and appreciate their view and level of comfort also.
I want to add, Ive stared death in the face, recently, as you might know. Im not even supposed to be here, according to my doctors.
That changes you, to your core. It makes you realize a lot.
Handing my grand children the mess we have now motivates me to want see changes that are needed. If that means I pay a price for speaking out, so be it. Its not about me, its about all of us, and especially my younger family members. If not us, then who? When? Know what I mean?
Ive seen death in my face, nothing can scare me after that. No human being on this earth will shut me up. God was looking over my shoulder, so nothing these demons do or try, will dampen my resolve brother, and you can take it to the bank. 😉 I will dare them to do something. Just saying what we do and telling the truth is enough to show them, we arent afraid.
F em all bro.
👍
Thank you – and I mean it. God bless you guys & your grandkids. I have young children & this is hard stuff – I feel like Sarah Connor in Terminator. I wish my own family were more like you so I could talk to them about all this. Much love and glad you lived & hope you know my Lord.
We all have family that refuse to see what’s right in front of them. They have fallen for the oldest scam- they believe the Devil doesn’t exist. They believe the snakes and want more bites from the apple. They don’t realize they are not immune to the poison contained in each bite.
God bless you, Bobo! Stay well.
Know exactly what you mean…as a new song by Cody Jinks, What You Love, says: Find what you love and let it kill you. A life lived safe is not s life lived. Find that one thing- and be willing to die for it.
Song moves me every time and I listen to it daily.
For me- that is God, family, and country. And interestingly they all require me to fight for tge same exact things.
Them’s powerful words. Amen!
BK, it’s why those of us w/ previous clearance of Secret, Top Secret, or above should always be more cautious.
The enemies (foreign and domestic) know who we are: one gave us the clearance and the others paid for that information.
As a former top secret clearance holder- my travels to Asia are always interesting when traversing security and customs. Especially in China.
I would assume this is exactly the case since the “hack” of the Office of Personnel Management’s databases came to light a number of years ago.
Burns, I think you are correct. The “hack.”
Whatever, spy, spy away. You wasted our time on interwebs, for this. We need to start charging by the minute.
Lindsey Graham:
1) Morsi and the Muslim Brotherhood supporter. Went over to Egypt with John McCain and tried to harangue and threaten the Egyptians into returning them to power. The Egyptians wanted to put them both on trial for supporting terrorism and trying to destroy Egypt.
2) Terrorist supporter. Worked to arm the so-called “rebels” in Syria who turned out to be ISIS, Al Qaeda, al Nusra and like minded. Far more people killed thanks to him and McCain and like minded.
3) Never meet an Endless War he didn’t fall head over heels in love with no matter how many American troops die or lose limbs for nothing achieved even remotely worth the price.
Tried to get the weapons that Barack Obama had given the Rebels in Libya over to the Syrian Mus Bros. Cost 4 American lives including amb. Stephens
Stop with the facts. It just confuses him.
He never could resist a man in uniform!
And Blumenthal, with his disgraceful Stolen Valor.
These two are clowns.
I read somewhere that he has $$ interests in munitions factories in Romania.
Don’t forget his and McCain’s visits to Ukraine and the achievement medals they were awarded. I’m sure all the checks to them cleared over the years.
Graham is He’s a pedantic, pontificating, pretentious bastard, a belligerent old fart, a worthless steaming pile of cow dung, figuratively speaking.
Reminds me of the ‘Al Sharpton’ type. A 2-face weakling and self-aggrandizing sort to boot. You see him almost immediately when something he denies or advocates is when the truth is the opposite .
Who cares what this war loving POS says? He has become mega-wealthy promoting needless and pointless wars for the last 30+ years. His kind and ilk needs to be exterminated! It’s long past time to return to a ‘love not war’ mentality, but that doesn’t generate billions for the evil war hawks like this evil POS! I get it! Massive Govt = Tyranny! The Govt solution? More layers of criminal Govt! The perfect plan to never lose power over the Sheeple! Death to every elite! That is the only solution!
It isn’t just the Democrats (my emphasis – if there are good Democrats, we don’t hear from them nor do we know them) who are largely and most guilty of betrayers of this country. Betrayal is at the heart of the story of the darker parts of history, which Americans have been living through for many years; and is NOW a significant part of these times we are living in. One by one, with faux outrage, lying to their teeth; this has always been one of the specimens upending the blocs of the governing agreements we once had as a nation. Betrayed for money. Betrayed for fame. Betrayed for ideals of some Utopian revolution. these are the worst.
The Uniparty is evident, especially with Miss Lindsay…..
His ilk are the worst. In my own opinion anyways.
With the D-Rats, you know what they are up to and what they want.
The R scum look you in the eye and pretend/lie . They are worse if you ask me….
🎯- the real traitors.
At least we know and always knew the Dems were PsOS.
Agree with you on this “scum look you in the eye and pretend/lie..”
I was angry describing him as the ‘Al Sharpton’ type in a post above.
There are millions of good democrats. Our cemeteries are full of them. Just have to bury them upside down because they keep resurfacing to vote.
The more Miss Linda rails against him, the more I like JD Vance!! Honestly, I don’t want to lose him in the Senate but if President Trump doesn’t pick Ben Carson as VP, my second choice is Vance! (Perhaps the fact that much of my ancestral family is Scots-Irish “white trash” from the Kentucky/Ohio/Iowa area makes me a bit biased but I am heartily tired of silver spoon Ivy kids running the country into the ground!)
Me too…folks all over have had enough.
I am here in Greater Vancouver, B.C.
An Australian neighbour and were just talking about the hatred for our true dope, and the politicians in his native Oz.
He is aware of Yellow and Grey zones, as are many of his colleagues.
Limpzee may not be sacred, but he is getting anxious…he looks hungover and bloated.
Cheers!
Being a foreigner I guess I am a magnet for this B.S.
😂😂. Awesome!
Bloated = that time of the month.
Two dopes and Lindsey looks evil. What is wrong with these DESPERATE people. Really want us in a war! What the heck are they hiding in Ukraine? I have my thoughts but only time will tell, hopefully.
PS – McCain sidekick, Linsey, needs to go back to Cee Eye Aye acting school. It feels like there’s a lot of theater going on.
What were those two
early-old looking
squinty eyed ob$curenti$t lying 💩s doing last night?
They seem to be catching up on themselves.
Well Lindsay, u r so worried about the open border….WTF did u do to close it?
Well, Lindsay, how did ur FISA process work out for Flynn, for Carter Page? etc.?
Subdance, if the Repubs are ahead in the polling for the US Senate say around sept or early oct, count on Graham to bring up abortion restrictions ….to scuttle Repub chances.
BTW….Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania all border Russia, all becam e NATO states….yet Putin doesn;t bother with them. And it is nearer a more open sea (Baltic) and has no choke points like the Black sea.
I am now convinced that Graham is on the ake from Ukes. Indeed he and Mccain went over there in 2014? to tell the Ukes to fight.
Lindsay Graham states “if they think I’m involved with them, they have to get a warrant”…literally… that government personnel are the only ones exempt from U.S. government authority to query the database of an American person.
Say it ain’t so Lindsay cause there is knowledge out there our government has been infiltrated and nothing is being done about it 😛 Whoop whoppee do to you the same to us if you step outta the box. Try to explain what was done to you on twitter during your last election campaign and I might just understand a bit more clearly…Eh
“They’re” gonna come over here and kill us all? Yikes!
And Miss Graham is aiding their entry by not securing the border.
I just gotta say this: “This whole thing is a poster-child example of the need for term limits. (And, good grief: age limits.)”
Because: “these people are clearly obsessed.” There is absolutely no legitimate reason to “bend heaven and earth” to exercise this sort of surveillance – in direct defiance of the Bill of Rights. Except for two things: (1) Because it is technically possible to do it. And (2) because a crap-load of “secret companies” will pay you enormous kickbacks to allow them to do it.
Why do it? Literally: “Because they can.”
Anytime I hear a senator or congressman say “we’re at war” I take it to mean they’re at war with us…passing 702 confirms that in my book.
They are referring to us . We the People are the threat to “their” democracy.
yes, if “we are at war” were really “true” Congress would have made a Declaration of War, per the rules.
He said exactly why he voted for this trash.. they told him he was being threatened! Plain as day.. what a coward! He handed over his liberty for safety and security.. and in doing so he proved he deserves neither! S.c. yall need to throw this bum out!
But he’s exempt from the queries, I mean they have to tell him and the others in Congress.
That network filter lends makes them look like animated caricatures. Like most of these show people, they are starting not to look even real but animated.
Agreed. Between the botox, plastic surgery and digital “enhancements”, it is all becoming surreal.
Thank You Viceroygrey and sDee !
They Both look So Weird to me ! Glad I wasn’t the only one
to see how Strange Graham and Blumenthal(?) look
in that video !
Yikes ! Even the newslady looks just *too smooth* 🙄
Miss Lindsey’s snarl is not cute at all.
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The lies are not cute or becoming either. :-/
So 702 is used to surveil US citizens that come into contact with “a targeted” foreign citizen/national. Does this mean that everyone who visits, comments, or shares posts here at the Treehouse are now in that 7-hop circle?
Shall we say “Smile, we’re on candid camera!” everyone?
That’s my take of it.
I read that the updates in the bill took the level of contact all the way down to ISP’s. That’s everyone who uses a computer; one must connect to the internet and we know the bad guys must also, so we are ALL touching ALL the time. Please tell me I’m incorrect…. TY
It seems to me that Sundance is probably under surveillance through a 702 right now because he is contacting Russian citizens that the crooked IC probably just added to their list of targeted foreign citizens so that they could spy on him.
I would posit, he has been on their radar since the inception of the Wolverenic Lodge, otherwise known as The Conservative Treehouse. 😉
Too much truth is spoken for the demons.
Except that 702s have an expiration date, and they probably just created a new one.
When it comes right down to it, they spy on whomever they like, whenever they want. Who is stopping them?
Laws and expiration dates mean nothing to the ones doing it all. I think we can all come to that conclusion brother Ron. 😉
Pretty sure you are close to ensnaring much of the entire planet with 7 or 8 hops from a person of interest.
Id say, that is a correct assessment of the situation.
Ive pondered that question many times. Ive often thought, I should just read and ponder, dont comment, stay under the radar. Knowing what we know about the people in charge, its not lost on me, all of us could have the gaze of Sauron on us…… ” wink “.
Then I looked at myself in the mirror.
My answer to myself is – I DGAF……only liars and thieves/criminals want us to shut up.
Not gonna happen, until my last breath.
So 100% agree;
Am thinking we’ve all had those thoughts and considerations and then I go, No – we are in the fight for this nation’s rights and restoration of its founding principles and join in, press on we must, future generations are depending on this;
also, been trying to juggle the budget to increase the monthly give, after all, foreign fact finding trips and finding Treehouse branches in far away places takes money!
It’s how I feel. And another point- it matters not what you really say, it doesn’t. They can create comments and tie them to you- hackers do it daily.
There’s no reason to hide and stay quiet. They will frame you regardless. Look at Trump, Flynn, Giuliani, Jsn 6 people, etc. And they will ignore those they want as well- Floyd riots and the illegals being let go- illegals who not only violate immigration laws and but those who are violent felons too.
‘702 degrees of separation’?
You would think he was on the Titanic. After informing him they have just stopping for ice, it seems life boats are needed and he has no designated seat.
Derp State owns Lindsey by his short and pinky.
There is a problem though. He is suppose to convince the population that congress’s actions in 702s case and all others are just. He is on the TV coming unglued as a number of other are because the “In Crowd” knows their shills in the press and congress no longer carry any weight.
You know how the immortal Greek Gods died? The people stopped believing.
That leaves the “In Crowd” only one choice to maintain control, an excuse that they can enact ML or something akin.
Where do think that gay staffer they caught a while back on all fours naked on a table in Congress got the idea from?
He was role playing as Lindsey Liteloafer in one his past exploits sans the leather mask with a ball in it.
[Captain Kirk with his hand on his head in 3, 2,…]
Ladybugs Lindsey,…
but I think his usefulness is waning. the plebs arent buying his bs any more.
Intended chaos and non-clarity making the normal, uninformed citizen even more so ready to give up and trust their elected officials.
Administrative mission accomplished.
With his purple tie…
We are at war? With whom? Linda Graham is another one that needs to be in prison. I’m on the threat list, what? We have an open border, what has this dirtbag done to stop that?
The whole of congress proves that the election are false rigged stolen none of our election are real.
Linda, WHO THE HECK ARE WE AT WAR WITH. Linda the last time war was declared Dec. 8 1941, you asshat! And to top it off, no one declared war because of 9/11. These people disgust more and more every time they open their lying mouths.
Why would any foreign terrorists target Lindsey,…he is their biggest supporter;
Met with and funded ISIS.
Met with and funded Azoz Battallions.
Its like “Who in their right mind would ever kidnap Gretchen Whitmer?”
It doesn’t add up.
My thought is they, those in DC are all insane, they can only focus on what they will get out of being in DC.
And Dutchman the only way it adds up is how much they are getting out of their being in DC. I just wish we could vote them out but I think that is not the case.
What a fool! It is not worth a comment.
He wants us to trust the government as they violate the Constitution. He needs a refresher course on World History.
So we spent untold millions on “rip and replace” of telecom equipment made by Chinese company Huwei. We were told this was to protect our privacy.
Truth is our government needed a monopoly on our data, they could not afford competition in blackmailing, targeting, predicting, manipulating and intimidating.
Same thing with tik tok.
Now I am thinking I would much prefer the Chinese spying over our deep state.
Who do you think owns the DS?
Saying Graham is”Unhinged” and “lost his marbles” are understatements. These fools do not understand that we have seen behind the curtain of the 4th Branch.
Sounds like Al Gore at the WEF telling us that a billion will die from devastating climate change and boiling seas and the billions of Climate Refugees(??) will destroy self-governance…..blah blah blah….
Too funny.
The more shrill he gets, the further he is moving from honesty.
Anyone counted the silverware, lately?
When loose marbles came to the first Trump 2024 rally in pickens sc he was booed while talking and cut it short. His home town is seneca sc 15 miles away.
People in upstate sc area including his own home town know he is a joke.
Ever since he became detached from his mentor john mccain lindsey has gotten lighter in the loafers and head.😳🦨
I blame South Carolina voters, whom seem to be to dumb to be allowed to breed. Same for KY, AZ, TX, FL, AR, and IA.
LA & MS too
Cassidy! Pariah. We don’t allow him back here.
Nasty comment
Obsessive compulsive, tiny brained, evil little peons such as Ms Grahamnesty always look & sound fake.
Because they’re frauds trying to camouflage what they really are. It’s not working Ms Lindsay. We see you.
The look on Da Nang Dick’s face (he’s a Vietnam War hero you know 🙄 ) says it all when Miss Lindsey went into his screaming “We are at war” and ‘they are coming to get us” rant. Even that weasel, Da Nang Dick, had a hard time keeping a straight face on those blatant lies.
I am surprised that these two scumbags didn’t come off with the age old warmonger canard ‘if we don’t fight them over there, then we’ll have to fight them over here.” SMH Russia Russia Russia, Putin Putin Putin. Miss Lindsey McShame is full of 💩 .
U.S.S. Grahamstand has always done this. I don’t know what it worse.. Watching him or knowing there are people who watch him and take what he says at face value.
He’s up in 2027. We have 3 whole years to come up with a solid primary to remove this hack. Lets do this..
They need this because of what is going to come from the everyday person who just wanted to be left alone.
They think this will help squash the anger and uprising against them, those who betrayed us!
I would just love to see
people like Ms. Lindsey
dropped off in the middle
a hot war zone…….
And watch them soil
their pants.
They are just way to
casual about supporting
and funding death.
Circus Macabre
Spying on us….that is
no big deal to them.😡
Peace is the Prize
No War
Trump 2024.
A picture is still worth a 1,000 words!
I’m starting to get the impression that the republicans are NOT on our side
Found in the bin… 🙁
You would be correct!
Lord help all of us. These cretins in our “government “ will get us into another war. So sad.
WaAaaaah
Sundance mentioned in a previous article that even if CONgress got rid of FISA- 702 the spying on Americans would never stop.
So true.