Three judges from the Washington DC Circuit Court of Appeals have denied the immunity request from President Trump.
In a rather stark decision reached by the panel [SEE Ruling Here] “We have balanced former President Trump’s asserted interests in executive immunity against the vital public interests that favor allowing this prosecution to proceed,” the court wrote in its ruling Tuesday. “We conclude that the interest in criminal accountability, held by both the public and the Executive Branch, outweighs the potential risks of chilling Presidential action and permitting vexatious litigation.”
WASHINGTON – The judges put their decision on hold only until Monday to allow Trump to ask the Supreme Court to take up the immunity fight on an emergency basis. If he does so, the decision won’t take effect until the high court acts on his request, the appeals panel decreed. (read more)
The court essentially stayed its own ruling, pending a punt to the Supreme Court.
OF course, all presidents have immunity! The N20 FRAUDULENT ELECTION was a democrat INSURRECTION that destroyed the Republic under the COLOR of LAW. It was an OVERTHROW of our ELECTIONS that VIOLATED the voting RIGHTS of every American. The EVIDENCE of FRAUD is EVERYWHERE and obvious. The federal government is OVERTHROWN. It took Obama TWO COUPS to succeed. The Russian hoax (1st coup attempt) and two impeachments didn’t work. And there was NO PEACEFUL TRANSFER of POWER in 2017.
Democrats’ ideal 2024 campaign slogan: “Biden and Harris: Embarrassing Candidates for Mindless Voters!”
Well-said, JackT!
They want a war
It’s coming, They won’t stop until they get it.
Which is why we shouldn’t give them the excuse they want, to crush us with force.
It’s your job to make it difficult (read: lethal) and mutually assured for them. Take this time to get ready if you’re not.
Precisely. Nonetheless, as I’ve surveyed the landscape I ask myself: THIS is what I have to fight with? It seems it’s only by the Hand of G-d this Country hasn’t yet gone up in flames. How much longer He extends: 1. I don’t know. And 2. Is not for me to know nor question His Will. Common sense, which is in fact anything BUT common, tells me a reckoning advances with increasing velocity. I’m not sure if we’re in the end of Romans or the beginning of Revelations.
Well … The LORD has woven His storyline to and fro only for the wise to discern. Romans 16:25-27, “Now to him who is able to strengthen you according to my gospel and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery that was kept secret for long ages but has now been disclosed and through the prophetic writings has been made known to all nations, according to the command of the eternal God, to bring about the obedience of faith— to the only wise God be glory forevermore through Jesus Christ! Amen.”
Prophetic writings and the revelation of mysteries have been made know in this generation as The LORD God Almighty is showing up now, at this time, for His Name’s Sake.
So, what is the “obedience of faith”? “Draw closer to Me and I will drive closer to you,” The LORD writes. The following elements are the obedience of faith that no one practices anymore – no, not one: conviction, contrition, confession; which leads to repentance; which leads to forgiveness; which leads to restoration; which leads to a new life in Christ Jesus our Redeemer and Savior from our sins; which leads to a closer walk with The Father in His Right Ways for Living, but ONLY through faith in Jesus, His Son. “No one come to The Father except by Me,” Jesus taught.
So, this is where we are to be: in repentance at this time in history. Without a repentant heart, mind, and soul before The LORD, how can He renew a right spirit within us? If we don’t entreat Him, how can we be so spiritually bent as to think He will come to us with His gifts of forgiveness, restoration, and new life?
No, we’re not “in the end of Romans or the beginning of Revelation.” Ninety-nine percent of us are at the end of our earthly existence without any hope for salvation except through faith in Jesus Christ. Dangling right above the fires of hell and eternal destruction is no place to live and die.
THANKS BE TO GOD THE FATHER WHO GIVES US THE VICTORY OF ETERNAL LIFE WITH HIM THROUGH HIS SON, OUR LORD AND SAVIOR, JESUS CHRIST!!
They couldn’t crush anybody with force. They don’t have the numbers – we do. And they are nothing but a bunch of sissy cowards who will fold the instant they think they might die.
True, but given the catastrophic cost I pray for a mitigating factor first despite the unprecedented depravity which is a disease of the soul as much as anything else. I do know G_d will not be mocked. The signs abound and are building, but ignored. I get His concept of time is quite unlike our own, but how much longer can this really continue? Among more, the boys my wife and I raised are now building their own families. Solid ones too. We just found out we have another grand baby on the way due early Sept. I imagine our concern is as profound as for others here with kids also raising their own families. The kids see what’s going on, but we try not to burden them with protracted discussions and those concerned with preparing for what’s now imminent if this moronic “electorate” doesn’t wake up and seize the time – despite the cost because this Counntry is worth it. We just want them to know the Country we once did. Given the sacrifices our Family made in two World Wars, Korea, and Vietnam which took the heaviest toll, and even more than wars, this is NOT too much to ask. I’m sure others here have paid the same price and others even more.
Good and hard.
But, be patient. It’s inevitable. It’s their move.
What they want Right to reply is Hell on earth. Read about it below
Revelation 14: 17-20
Reaping the Grapes of Wrath17 Then another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle.
18 And another angel came out from the altar, who had power over fire, and he cried with a loud cry to him who had the sharp sickle, saying, “Thrust in your sharp sickle and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth, for her grapes are fully ripe.” 19 So the angel thrust his sickle into the earth and gathered the vine of the earth, and threw it into the great winepress of the wrath of God. 20 And the winepress was trampled outside the city, and blood came out of the winepress, up to the horses’ bridles, for one thousand six hundred furlongs.
Well then…Battle Stations…..I would hate to disappoint them.
KEEP in mind it was done with the complicity of predominantly “republican” state legislatures – several of which were either exacta or trifecta states ex: GA and AZ. What went down in PA. with “ACT 77 was applied with similar tactics in EVERY single so-called “swing state” to the same extent or worse. These are facts I still see ignored. Add to this Bill Barr and his fellow travelers and like ilk. In essence, the “republican” party and Ronna Romney’s RNC are at LEAST as culpable. Yes they are. I have the receipts.
I am eagerly anticipating Tucker’s Putin interview. I want to see these jackwagons squirm like worms in a hard rain. I am sick to death of being disappointed time after time. My guts won’t take much more of this, but I’m sure that is just exactly what the bad guys want.
That’s a fact Jack!
Another federal court decision putting “public interest” over a strict interpretation of the Constitution. It’s similar to the 9th Circuit putting public interest over the 2nd Amendment right to keep and bear arms.
Sorry, I will continue to take the contrary view.
Nothing in the Constitution gave Obama the right or the authority to order the murder of a 16 year old American citizen, depriving that child of his right to life, without due process of law.
Our God given, inalienable rights precede the Constitution. Nothing can take them away, not even occupying the Ova l Office.
Obama should be arrested and tried and face imprisonment for that murder.
Again, nothing in Article II overrides the Bill of Rights. Nothing.
the murder of a 16 year old American citizen
Who are you referring to there, Alex?
I don’t speak clue
thx in advance
The Al Awlaki kid Obama drone bombed several days after he droned Al-Awlaki himself.
thx
Abdulrahman al-Awlaki
Drone strike killed him, his cousin (similar age) and a bunch of their friends. He was the only US citizen.
And his Awlaki’s son.
But isn’t that what Impeachment is for? The Congress could put him out, right?
Yup. Article I Section 3 Clause 7
“ Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.”
He has to be tried AND convicted in the Senate to be liable. He was aquited.
If I am not mistaken, ( I am no attorney or the like, just a “layman”), If I understand what I was taught when I was a young lad in the 1960s/70s, the “precedent” that seems to becoming (trying to be) “set”, is that former US Prez can be prosecuted for their actions, should this case go forward, & that Prez DJ Trump is able to be prosecuted without “Executive Privilege” being applied for a US Prez, as is “intended” by the US Constitution.
Meaning that IF this goes thru, then every president, Living or passed on, is culpable for their actions, and could be accountable legally, regardless of being a US President & the “Chief Executive”/CinC, and what is supposed to be the allowance for “Ex. Privilege” to allow them to do what “has to be done” to protect the USA.
That possible legal precedent to be able to hold the US Prez culpable would open the door to more than a couple of Still Living US Presidents to be found culpable as well, for their actions as US Prez.
Without Due Process as per the US Constitution, and the so called , ” acting in the National Defense… the killing of US citizens abroad,by the Obamination , with the drone killings of 2 US Citizens;
The assassination killings of those at Ruby Ridge, as well as the debacle at Waco Texas, during the Clinton Administration;
The lack of evidence/proof justifying the attack/ invasion of Iraq, 2 times ,etc., by both Bush 1 & Bush 2., etc.).
Et Cetera back thru history…
Looks like a BIG CAN OF WORMS is being opened up…
I am betting some folks with notability do not want Prez Trump to set any legal precedent for past actions as Prez, as it would not be good for them should the tides change in politics.
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GOD Bless ya~!
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Edit: Yeah sometimes.
I might have missed some thing… Please forgive. 😉
P.S. – I did not mention Joe Biden in the above comment, as I don’t consider him Prez, & he is likely not culpable the same as the rest of the ones mentioned.
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I am of the opinion he is culpable for many things, but not necessarily covered under “Exe. Privilege” for any of those things.
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FJB
If Biden were found culpable for any of his myriad of crimes (which he never will be) he would simply plead non compos mentis.
It’s only a can of worms if it applies equally to all former presidents. And we know it won’t. It only applies to Trump. Just look at the difference between the classified documents cases involving Trump, Biden, and Pence. The novel legal theories and decisions we are seeing will only ever apply to Trump.
I find the “has to be impeached first” argument problematic, though there appears to be support for it in the Federalist Papers.
Presidents now take many, many secret actions. So, if a President secretly deliberately drops a bomb on an innocent Wisconsin kindergarten and covers it up, or secretly authorizes the production of a known (to him) bioweapon with known (to him) lethal effects and in contravention of the US statute that adopts the Nuremberg Code, mandates that every health care worker in the US must inject it, and its lethality is hidden until he is out of office, he’s Scott free?
Tha t can’t be the right result.
There is no US statute adopting the Nuremburg Code. There is no statute adopting the Nuremburg Code as law anywhere, no nation, no organization. It was a proposed set of rules that virtually no one was able to cidify into law. Contravention of laws that don’t exist entails no penalties.
oops..codify, not cidify. Mea covfefe.
When a President is operating within his Constitutional authority in order to carry out the President’s responsibilities to the Constitution and People of the United States, then the President has immunity. However, when not operating within Constitutional authority in carrying out Constitutional responsibilities of the President, the President is legally exposed even though the President cannot be indicted until after the President leaves office or is impeached, convicted, and removed from office by the Congress.
Nixon was liable to indictment (in fact he was an unindicted co-conspirator in Watergate while in office) after resigning from office. That was why Gerald Ford pardoned Nixon. Nixon made the argument, in an interview with David Frost long after Watergate, that the President cannot ever violate the law. The argument was not unlike that of Thomas Hobbes in The Leviathan. Hobbes designated the leader as the only person who was permitted to live in a “state of nature” in which the laws and rules binding everyone else do not apply to the leader. The existence of the impeachment, as described in Article 2, Section 4 establishes that Hobbes’ “State of Nature” does not apply to the Executive authority under this Constitution as “President, Vice President, and all Civil Officers of the United States shall be removed from Office on impeachment for, and conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other High Crimes (Felonies) and (not “OR”) Misdemeanors,” which means impeachment is not applicable to the commission of only misdemeanors. Any misdemeanor on the part of a President, Vice President, etc. cannot lead to impeachment, conviction, and removal from office.
That was murder without due process. It is not analagous to Trump’s actions to try to get the obvious truth out that there was a need for further investigation.
Correct.
The two situations can be legally distinguished on the facts presented, and should be.
indeed.
and if you think SCOTUS will automatically fix this, you aren’t paying attention.
DO NOT COMPLY with shit, illegitimate government.
+1. Nine (9) black robed cloistered monks with their alleged judicial “expertise” need to be slammed with the fact that the United States Constitution is not now, nor has it ever been, a suicide pact.
9 rings for the kings of men….
But they were all of them deceived…
Nazgul…
Just what is the law of “vital public interests?” Did they take that from Dirty Harry, “I gots to know?” Makes about as much sense.
All Odumbo appointed judges?
One Bush, two Biden.
The books…and their covers.
As a female, I can say this…and I am very tempted to say something about how the current state of the country and– the world — would not be possible without the pushing of….well, everybody knows what I’m thinking, and probably at least 3/4 are thinking the same thing looking at that picture.
If I said it, it could be a hate crime. But I can still think it; at least until Elon gets the implant working.
I will say it — and I have been saying it for a long time. WOMEN BELONG NO WHERE NEAR THE REINS OF POWER. I am not sure women should have even been given the vote. It has been down hill since then.
Thank you. Agreed. And I am a female. From conception.
I say it too. Women make decisions based in their emotions. I see it all the time. And I’m a woman.
Unfortunately, some men now make decisions the same way. But haven’t testosterone levels plunged?
i’ll say it – revisit the 19th amendment.
A person should never be so open minded that their brain falls out. Then again a person should never be so narrow minded that they cut the oxygen supply to their brain.
You might want to check the oxygen supply to your brain. The reason I say that is because how they ruled has absolutely nothing to do with being male or female. It has to do with ideology.
Thank you.
Then do what is going on in woman’s sports? Where are all the feminists of the 60’s who were “burning bras” to get their equality. Why aren’t these women fighting now for say Riley Gaines?
Look at our military and who leads some of the branches since we let women in. Look at transgender issues that women seem not to care about. How about gay marriage? Where were the women then. Sorry, it might be ideology, but it is still about women themselves. By the way, married for close to 30 years with two daughters.
Congratulations on being married for 30 years with two daughters.
Do you think Riley Gaines stands by herself? You don’t think there are women out there who are conservative and don’t approve of what they are trying to do to women? Do you think all women want to destroy the family? Even better yet, why aren’t you holding men to the same standard as you are women? You think only men are conservative?
How about applying some thinking skills instead of being a toady for the globalists elites. They want us divided and by blaming women for where America is right now, you are helping them. All of us who have common sense and still use our brains need to pull together, both men and women, if we are to save our country. Pointing your finger and acting like a child by blaming women (yes, even conservative women) destroys the bond, the idea of freedom, that holds us together. It actually makes you sound like the boogie man the left is always talking about when they mention misogyny.
I almost forgot. Contrary to popular belief women had the right to vote in 20 of the 48 states before the 19th Amendment was ratified.
Isn’t it in large part a particular class of women who support Biden? Why is that?
There are women who make great leaders, but there aren’t very many. Women have been placed in positions of power that many have no aptitude for. It used to be that only the most gifted women rose to the top. Not any more.
Men have their own problems. I still marvel at where Biden dug up the clowns in his cabinet. They can also do terrible damage. But the motivations are often different.
Yes it does. Women are much more likely to make decisions based in their emotions rather than on the facts. I have seen it countless times in the workplace. Not all women, of course, but most.
When men and women share an ideology, they tend to hold it for different reasons. Women care much more than men about being perceived, or thinking of themselves, as kind and caring. They’ll support, e.g., open borders because they feel sorry for people. Hard decisions that result in difficulties for other (favored) classes of people are generally rejected.
As men become more feminized, I see the tendency in them as well, but not nearly to the same degree.
Perhaps you missed my point. I don’t disagree that men and women are constructed differently mentally or even that there are some job roles that men tend to do better in than women and vise versa.
My point originally was to the person who originally said it was a sad day for America when women were able to vote in all states. I happen to disagree and I pointed out that the women who were responsible for the ruling weren’t voting that way because they were women, it was because of ideology. There are plenty of women who are judges that make rulings based on the constitution, not because of ideology.
Then there was another person who responded and he started blaming women for all the issues in America. Because they have been placed in positions of power. I took exception to that also. The reason being is it was men with a certain ideology who put women there that they knew would make rulings based on ideology and feelings. My point being the person who posted said absolutely nothing about the men who put them in those positions, choosing instead to blame women. At least that was what I thought he was saying due to the fact he didn’t mention men at all or their responsibilities for the position this country is in.
As a woman, I am more than capable of listening to a debate or even what politicians say and deciding for myself who to vote for using logic and reason. I do not let myself be manipulated by emotional heartstrings. I am not a hard hearted woman, I have a lot of compassion but I am not ruled by it. There are ways to take care of things without letting your heartstrings be manipulated and at the same time also have compassion.
I am not sure why you would say men and women hold ideology for different reasons. It’s true that we think differently but usually we have the same reasons for holding an ideology. As a conservative woman, I want a safe America and conservative men want the same thing. Our reason for wanting it safe is because we want those we love to be safe. So we have the same reason and ideology. Perhaps you meant we have different motivations? I really wasn’t clear on what you meant from your example because it seemed like you were using leftist, sheep reasoning. I mean you used an example of why leftist women would agree to an open border. I don’t think like a leftist or a sheep so I am not sure what you meant exactly. Perhaps you could give me an example using conservative thought or non sheep mentality to show how conservative women have different reasons than men for being conservative.
And just as much the 14TH in that, specifically, which granted citizenship to all persons “born or naturalized in the United States”. It’s worked out so well, no? And that Trump will deport these now millions of illegal tin cup stumble bums is yet another PIPE DREAM.
*sigh*
Yes…
I would gladly give up my vote if it meant all women didn’t vote. Never thought I would say that but here we are…sighing too
Rabid feminists have destroyed everything for those of us who are not.
What a topic that would be for the Oxford Debates!
8.18.1920…not a good day for america.
Another not good day.
Trump Derangement Syndrome knows no gender, race, color, or creed.
Correction: Derangement Syndrome, period.
“Period” is the operative word.
Female here: Fact check true and I am thinking the same thing and have for a while…
Spot on, V! From another female who is decidedly NOT a liberal crybaby jackwagon moron, as these 3 are. These 3 women are full-blown monsters, in positions of authority, unfortunately for the rest of us.
…and there are many more male “monsters” in positions of authority. Honestly, do ya’ll really think that our problems would be greatly lessened if women didn’t have the right to vote??????
I thought this was a tree house, not a neanderthal cave.
In the last 60 years women have risen to control many cities, school boards, judgeships, and state governments. Their numbers in congress have greatly increased, they hold Supreme Court positions and who knows how many of them call the shots in the deep state. During those same 60 years we have seen an unprecedented rise in liberalism that now threatens our very existence. Coincidence? There are no coincidences.
Picture is worth 10,000 words……
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thanks for sharing Betsy!
You bet, Clayton 👍🏻
Three kindergarten teachers at a private school, yes, federal judges…not a chance!
Poor little children….
Poor anyone anyone appearing before them.
All have bad case of TDS.
Fatal…
You just be talking to a person and all of a sudden you realize they are Karen.
I AM WOOMAN! HEAR ME ROAR!
Oh, yes, I see now
If you’re referring to the DC “appellate” court one is a Bush appointee (useless) and the others a combination of obama and biden. appointments whgo by the way were, as usual, validated in their “confirmation hearings” by Lady Graham (Pan and others) and other “-R’s” of kindred ilk. Past this, any Ditch McConnell’s “judicial appointment wins”… on ANY circuit? I don’t.
I am so glad you brought that up. Something I agree with one hundred percent.
Graham and his cohorts must bear heavy blame for confirming these rabid ideologues. Ideology has no place on any judicial bench; yet there are hundreds of constitutionally ignorant men and women on them.
The same applies to my finger pointing at the cowardly or piqued RINO House members who abandoned ship in 2018, thus giving the House to Pelosi and her evil which has led us to where we are today. Yes, I do blame them and their leash holder Ryan for the suffering President Trump…and we…are enduring.
Pan = Numero Uno for Biden.
one was a Bush appointee…
yeah, and??
Bush is a deep state commie.
What a country!
What an era! I like to write for my own amusement, and I’m working on something where the protagonist falls asleep in 1980 and wakes up in 2022, now living in an alternative timeline and finding herself not just in a different personal life because of her choices, but of course, in a world that she cannot believe. As I said, it amuses me. Sometimes ya gotta laugh to keep from crying…
That would be an interesting read! I suppose most of us have lived it, but it would be fascinating to see how you tell the tale.
Your project has potential, I think…..Write it and publish….I bet Treepers would buy it!
Lately, I have been going back in time to happier moments in life, how I lived, the day’s issues, stressors etc and ask myself have we really changed that much? It truly is a WTF moment….
Ask a recently released inmate who has been locked up for 40 years…that will give one an idea…and inmates do get newspapers and cable TV with news…that is a somewhat real phenomenon….its called “institutionalization”. They leave a structured environment and reality sets in…and they are supposed to be prepared in advance for it.
Shawshank Redemption illustrated that with the guys working in the grocery store.
If you use YouTube at all…I give you JP Sears. Kid falls asleep in 1992 and wakes up in 2024…
13 going on 30 is a film about that. Have you seen it yet?
Watch the movie Idiocracy. Same basic premise.. Very funny.
*if you can keep it.
We are living in interesting times.
OK Republicans – time to act: charge Obama with murder, and Biden for release criminal aliens into the country.
Let’s go.
This!!!
Unfortunately the party has LONG BEEN RepubliCANT’S….im done gone rogue…..
All we need is one.
Just one.
The fact that it has not and will not tells me all I need to know about the Republican party, Republican governors and Republican Attorneys General.
Agreed. Charge them in Texas. We have the death penalty.
The Lt. Governor ‘s son is a prosecutor, isn’t he?
If anybody is going to go scorched earth, it would be AG Ken Paxton.
80,000,000 upvotes.
81 million.
imagine a party that was remotely as good at lawfare as the National Socialists DNC are – they would have had criminal charges ready in 20 states to file TODAY.
The “GOP” cannot prosecute anyone. They could make a referral….to Merrick Garland.
There might be a problem in there somewhere…
State and county prosecutors do not have to kiss Garland’s butt.
We are a union of states, not subjects of a single federal government.
Arrest W on Texas state charges.
Charge Biden with MASS MURDER for the Fentanyl\Suicide Epidemic\Lockdowns.
ASAP.
Biden is guilty of criminal negligence and possible collusion in drug trafficking, sex slave trafficking, aiding criminal elements within the U.S. and possible treason with aiding the CCP and foreign terrorists.
So:
Obama, Clinton, Bush, & Biden, DO NOT HAVE PRESIDENTIAL IMMUNITY…
This will be fun.
They want it, let them have it… right in the kisser.
not a surprising decision coming from a group of 3 liberal women judges appointed by liberal presidents.
leftist–they left “liberal” behind so long ago, the word has lost all meaning.
Correct word is C………ist
. . . who have clearly failed to think things through. (Surprise!)
They’re quite cowardly they refused to make a decision and passed it to the Supreme Court. “Public interest ” is not the law.
From what I’ve been reading the ruling only applies to President Trump.
There is no such thing in common law.
Right. Justice for me, but not for thee.
Ahhh, so equal justice under the law then. Riiiight.
Of course. It will be simple then to strip Constitutional rights only for those 3 judges. Let them reap what they have sown.
so.. it is a Bill of Attainder?
Don’t forget Carter, although he’s about to be judged by a Higher Authority very soon.
I am surprised he has lasted this long after Roselyn’s passing….
His funeral as a distraction isn’t needed yet
I drive through Carter’s home town (Plains, GA) fairly regularly. Today, a woman was taking a picture of Billy (Jimmy’s stupider brother) Carter’s Service Station sign. I swear to God, they still have the more stupid brother’s gas station building and sign there decades after Billy died and went to wherever president’s dead stupider brothers go….
Jimmy’s wife passed away several weeks ago at age 93, I believe. Jimmy is still living there at age 98.
WEEKS after Rosiland died, they were still moving her body around from place to place to give all Carter supporters a chance to view her body in person. Three weeks after, I planned to drive through Plains but the Secret Service had every pig path within a 25 square mile area leading into that town blocked by SS! Apparently, they were worried that someone might steal her body? Jk…
His home there is fenced in and has an apartment built for the SS in his backyard. Black SUV’s parked all around.
He’s literally a hero to the locals around those parts…
Hummmm… I wonder of my empty Billy’s Beer can is worth anything… lol
“(Jimmy’s stupider brother)”
I disagree. Billy would have been a better president than that commie Jimmy.
How much do you really know about Billy carter?
unfortunately, yet comically, the tell that these activists know that their ruling is illegal is that they specifically said this only applies to Trump. they got their headline but Trump actually wins.
We all know this ruling only applies to MAGA, right?
One of the key fundamental distinctions between Anglo-American common law and European civil code law is the role of PRECEDENT. You would have to overturn something like 800 years of common law – in essence, destroy the bedrock foundation of the American legal system – to get to a place where legal precedent no longer exists as the basic rule.
At the moment, this ruling only exists as precedent in DC.
BUT The door has now been opened. There is no reason for other jurisdictions to hold off following.
In fact there is good reason to go full force in the 5th Circuit. Split Circuit rulings is one of the criteria for SCOTUS to grant cert
Arrest W in Texas
EXACLTY.
WRONG. only those presidents they deem to not have it will not have it.
if you think there is equal protection under the law, you are not paying attention.
Unfortunately this decision by the district Court is another “this only applies to Trump” twisting of precedent and law. The Supreme will likely send it back for an en banc decision then if Trump loses that will it go before 5he Supreme Court and they will likely cut out the “except for Trump” aspect and preserve presidential immunity.
Don’t forget this is a lawfare play….they know it can’t stand in court irs solely for media consumption.
True, but it’s pissing me off. 🤣
Precedent established. Wow!
Exactly. Make this as painful as possible.
Sounds like the fix is in, they want Trump to get this to the Supreme Court ASAP because they know that Roberts and his crew will rule against Trump.
odds are 50/50, IMO
We’ve been painted into a very tight corner. Something is going to give out.
something already did: the republic.
everything after has been a wait and see, whether the people would continue to consent to be governed by what replaced it.
Kagan, the wise Latina and brown will rule with the district Court. However the saner minds will see a constitutional crisis in the making and preserve presidential immunity. I believe as fickle as Robert’s is he’s not a “burn it to the ground” type.
I remember Obama used to kill a lot of people with drones. One time he killed a whole wedding. The one that really stands out though is that 14 year old boy. A US citizen too.
“Three judges from the Washington DC Circuit Court of Appeals…”
Three jackasses from the Washington District of Corruption. Yeah, they’ll give President Trump a fair hanging. . .
The Occupation Government controls the “courts” in DC. You will get no decision based in Constitutional law within DC or other heavily enemy Occupied blue cities.
True, but now we have an appellate court precedent.
That means any state prosecutor who can obtain personal jurisdiction over Obama, Biden, Clinton, or W, can and should bring charges for any crimes committed in their jurisdictions as to which the statute of limitations has not yet expired.
Hello any prosecutors in Mena, Arksnsas. Heads up!
Here. here!!!
Worms, meet can opener.
The judges are criminals. I’m not sure that is widely understood yet, but if this country had a genuine justice system a great many judges, especially in DC, would be behind bars.
What will this ruling do to the prospect of future Presidential candidates? Will anyone of substance want this thankless job especially with such a broken system?
God continue to bless and secure President Trump regardless of the obstacles that arise, in Jesus’s Holy and Saving Name, AMEN
They’d better be as clean as PDJT. If they are, no problem.
And there’s such a thing as sanctions and disbarment for bringing a frivolous case. That is what awaits Jack Smith’s team at the end of all the smoke and mirrors.
And, possibly prosecution for abuse of position.
Just the harassment is enough to dissuade anyone. I hope for Trump’s restoration of his fortune a hundred-fold for what he’s been put through. He deserves every penny.
“They’d better be as clean as PDJT. If they are, no problem.”
uhh… its literally the opposite
You make my point for me.
They are all criminals, and they have more and worse crimes than even Treepers csn imagine.
They are not above, and should not be above, earthly justice.
President Trump is taking the slings and arrows for us, because eventually that Katniss Hunger Games arrow of justice is going to find it’s way to C O W.
I think the result would be the opposite. They would be “selected” based on their having a less than scrupulous past, and this case could be more easily used as leverage against them as a way of keeping them in line. We need to remember that this is the D.C. swamp, where they never let anything go to waste if they can find a way to benefit from it.
Is it even Citizen Jack’s team? Has he actually been properly made “special prosecutor”, or is he still a criminal fraud?
Excellent point….so much for the content of anyone’s “character”….
God Bless PDJT
The absolute garbage that exists in DC, especially this ILLEGITIMATE ADMINISTRATION run by a senile old criminal!!! Ummm, Members of Congress have immunity so do Federal Judges and Presidents should as well!!!!!!!!! The only reason, as a couple of Republican lawyers who argue cases before the Supreme Court have pointed out, that this issue never came up is that NO ADMINISTRATION PREVIOUSLY TRIED TO CHARGE A FORMER PRESIDENT WITH A CRIME!!! It is something that was unheard of until these MARXISTS filling out Obama’s third term actually did it! 🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦
I am really sorry to see this happening to President Trump again, These dirty crooked judges have no business being on the bench and Please
President Trump tell that stupid judge in NYC to take a dam hike and do nothing to help him in any of his requests.
Some how, I cant believe that in this day in age, that a judge can do to a person who has devoted his whole life to NY and done great things there could possible bring himself to do what this judge and AG are doing.
please When you become President make sure that all of these things are cleared away and they are all brought to justice. they all deserve to die in hell.
Not die in Hell, suffer in perpetuity. That is the purpose.
Not just against Pres. Trump….he’s at the head of the pack …MAGA.
He’s just in the way…
you’re dreaming. this isn’t church. this is war and we’re the targets.
Judge Pan’s Husband is Democrat Activist Max Stier…
“A classmate, Max Stier, saw Mr. Kavanaugh with his pants down at a different drunken dorm party, where friends pushed his penis into the hand of a female student. Mr. Stier, who runs a nonprofit organization in Washington, notified senators and the F.B.I. about this account, but the F.B.I. did not investigate and Mr. Stier has declined to discuss it publicly. We corroborated the story with two officials who have communicated with Mr. Stier; the female student declined to be interviewed and friends say she does not recall the episode.
Stier’s still unproven allegations are included in a new documentary, “Justice,” about the Kavanaugh scandal. The film, which premiered at the 2023 Sundance Film Festival, centers on Ramirez and features a recording of Stier’s never-before-heard 2018 call to the FBI tip line detailing what he claimed to have seen and heard.”
Thanks for posting that CJ….I will have to go find it now…..!
Yet another who doesn’t share the same last name as their spouse. When vetting candidates, always play the game of investigating spouses, children, parents, aunts, uncles, business partners, and investments.
I hope the red state AG’s are getting their criminal charges in order and ready to file on a few past Presidents as well if the SC fails in upholding Presidential immunity.
Just go ahead and charge them. No need to wait.
Yep. This is a good moment to telegraph our next move. We have plenty of them to charge and plenty to charge them with.
wouldn’t it be fun to bleed Obama dry!!!!
they should have had a couple dozen waiting for this possibility.
that they don’t should tell us something.
Maybe they do 😉
Do it now….since there is no SCOTUS decision as yet, the “DC Appeals court” ruling holds….
Turn about is fair game…. Perhaps these “judges” should be prosecuted for not upholding their oaths by the next president’s AG.
From what I know of President Trump’s conduct pertaining to January 6 he did nothing illegal and nothing inflammatory. From my knowledge he did everything he could to keep the day peaceful.
So look at it this way. If this were to go to court evidence could be shown that disproves what deep state and main stream media are alleging. More importantly from what I understand now a precedent has been set that other former presidents(I’m looking at you joe Biden several months from now) are not immune.
all these people arguing that the legal system still works the way they were taught in grade school… what movie y’all watching or what drug y’all on?
facts and evidence are irrelevant. precedent and what others did is irrelevant.
what the fascist regime wants, and who consents to be governed by it and allow it to continue – IS THE ONLY RELEVANT thing.
MB, the US is much bigger than DC. The 5th Circuit and Texas juries aren’t the DC Circuit and DC juries.
Most lawfare is conducted in DC, NY and CA for a reason.
don’t forget crooked jury selection.
And….President Trump WAS STILL PRESIDENT on January 6!
Then let us put the public interest over presidential anything and indict, try and summarily execute the present pretended for treason and crimes against humanity in general.
I’m not at all sure that this 3 person panel can limit the in-banc appeal. Do you think the 11 judges will appreciate being passed over? I don’t.
the ruling is a joke, I doubt the full panel will embarrass themselves by allowing it to go to scotus. the activists got their headline today.
Trump needs to request the en banc to get the entire district on the record. This would possibly push the SC hearing to October as well.
there are TWO factor that would cause this case to be decided before November
SCOTUS REFUSES TO HEAR THE CASE…
OR quickly agrees (stands) with the appeals court decision.
scotus has to be aware that the appeals court will be effectively deciding how political warfare will escalate to ALL OFFICERS of the federal government..including SCOTUS BLACK ROBES, current AND FORMER!
so my instincts?
scotus is not going to be willing to rule on this case before November. It will delay, President Trump is elected and the entire matter is moot. Scotus comes out (as well as the appeals bench) on record not really making a decision one way or the other. And so, this becomes an issue with impeachment while President Trump is in office. Yes, they will attempt to impeach President Trump for alleged aid to insurrection in the last days of his former term!
why would they do this? because President Trump returning to office will be on a MISSION OF REVENGE and will turn the place upside down and do it all in one term..that is his mandate…coupled with re-building economic security as a priority. This will AGAIN place all the phoneys at risk…grave risk…and it will divert TRILLIONS they are expected to receive. Again, President Trump will stand in the way…the great disruptor.
so they will respond with knives out….and this scotus case will be revisted once he is back in office….this time, with lawfare again working with the one party DC congress to try and get it done.
remember, last time, the senate held the line. Does anyone believe that the new House and the “old” senate will behave the same way as before?
They will put everything they have into impeaching him..probably in his first 100 days.
and to that prospect, let me be crystal clear…and repeat something that few bothered to really notice about comments made recently by President Trump. The vice president needs to be someone who is FULLY capable of carrying the MAGA plan to it’s final destination…(I am paraphrashing…President Trump used the word “succession”…meaning, he fully expects ‘something to happen’…and even if that does not happen, we all need to be thinking very hard about how MAGA develops post Trump.
these are solely my own opinions
God Bless America
I did notice what he said about his eventual VP pick, he is planning ahead.
“If you appeal, we will find you guilty of more stuff.”
I know I know….oooh, ooooh, oooh…….
He masterminded the assassination of Julius Caesar!
On to Roberts, et al.
We will now find out just how compromised the SC is now, one way or the other.
An upside to this fiasco. The demons reveal themselves.
🎯 – for the world to see!
They already have. They don’t care.
The Swamp continues to drain….and who said that President Trump didn’t drain the swamp????
So what happens if PDJT simply asks for an en banc ruling?
Who are these clowns to say it’s stayed unless appealed to the SCOTUS?
If the full 11 panel agrees with the 3 the case goes to the Supreme Court. If not Jack Smith is p@ssing in the wind. Where I can see Kagan, the wise Latina and the judge that is not a biologist will agree with the three while the others will kill it and the decision is reversed thus preserving immunity. Grantedthis decision is another “this only applies to Trump” twisting of law but I can’t see Robert’s willing to burn the republuc down knowing what it would mean to every president.
It is up to the judges to grant an en banc hearing. A majority of the active judges (no one on senior status) must vote for it.
Can we actually get a ruling on whether or not “Jack Smith” is actually a “special prosecutor” or just a regular citizen?
So, it’s just like the Colorado case, where Trump has to act, before the opinion is can be ordered? How is this possible, are not all cases suppose to be given the same court rules, like as in 21 days to appeal the decision ? Wouldn’t this be a violation of the equal protection clause of the 14th amendment ?
if the name were taylor swift yes it would.
All he has to do is give notice by Feb. 12 that he’s going to file a cert petition. He can do that tomorrow if he wants to. He doesn’t actually have to file the petition by Feb. 12.
Even if they believed in Trumps presidential immunity, since it’s going to be appealed anyhow, they can rule against him to keep their handlers in Brooklyn happy and the mess goes into someone elses lap.
Will they request an en banc review? Wasn’t it the full court that recently castigated a ruling by a 3-judge panel? The Twitter ruling.
Trump now has a great case to make that he’s being railroaded. Today’s ruling is evidence of this.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/?s=Trump+Twitter+court
Trump should and probably will request en banc review. Appears these three judges don’t want an en banc review, likely because they fear it and they want to hurry along the persecution process.
Also telling that they come out with their decision shortly after many Lawfare players complained they were taking too long.
I sometimes wonder about the quality of legal help Trump is getting. Just seems kinda like AAA level ball being played instead of Major league type talent at times.
Part of the Lawfare strategy is to prosecute your lawyers on process crimes to prevent you from getting help. Then they threaten and intimidate anyone who might decide to join the legal team.
Executing the Lawfare cabal may be the only viable option.
Yes but in that case the majority of that court sided with the original opinion. Judges in the minority were the ones who castigated the original opinion.
vital public interests that favor allowing this prosecution to proceed…
Nonsense on stilts. Getting Trump is the only vital interest being served here. Biden cancelled Trump’s presidential immunity so he could have his home searched. DOOJand the courts are a disgrace, showing the world that we are a failing nation. What “democracy” piles these absurd charges totaling 100s of years in prison sentences on the president because he had the gumption to fight back against the attacks against him?
Which side are you on boys (and girls)? The side of the deep state continuing to destroy this country – something that most people want stopped, or the man who is sacrificing so much to save it?
Another George H.W. Bush disasterous judge.
Notably, in a footnote at the end of the decision, the panel declines to look at the merits of the threshold challenge that “the appointment of Special Counsel Smith is invalid because (1) no statute authorizes the position Smith occupies and (2) the Special Counsel is a principal officer who must be nominated by the President and confirmed by the Senate.”
-Jonathan Turley-
So his appointment is illegal but they declined to accept and rule on it. Things that make you go hmmmm.
The corruption and partisanship within our institutions is chilling.
3rd World
The corruption and Uni-partisanship. . . .
We have no system, not the one that has long been advertised.
Would it be beneficial to President Trump to ask for an en banc ruling from the entire DC District Court before going to the Supreme Corrupt Court? Let’s flush out all the corrupt activist Judges in that District Court!!! Just wondering? Obviously I’m not an attorney!
yes, regardless of outcomes. en banc before the ENTIRE appeals court judges means more time consumed AND it puts on official record that Court Appeals judges have to make a ruling. If even one of these judges differs in opinion, means that Team Trump has a better chance of showing the problems with the appeals court ruling AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, that there is NO REASON to push for a fast track urgency to have develop the arguments.
Again, this is an extraordinary case. Never happened before. Goes against the entire arc of constitutional law wrt to presidents and immunity protections. What team trump needs to add to the argument is the obvious point: there is no need and threats of harm by delaying these “trials”. Because we are discussing very fundamental constitutional concepts, every member should be very cautious and make adjustments to a timeline that is suitable to make a long period review, and one that develops the proper protections for the President of the United States, who is leading HUGE and will most certainly be elected BY THE PEOPLE ! So there must be some sanity about the timeline.
One might argue effectively: THE PEOPLE are already voting. Look at the polls. In every category President Trump is expected to win. What are we protecting the constitution against, if the entire point of an election is to establish a clear winner and one that is duly elected. So the argument presents the INTERESTS OF THE PEOPLE.
tearing away that power, and creating a urgency to rule on this needs to be understood for what it is: pure weaponization of the courts by the DOJ (and states prosecutors and secretary of states). No good will come by allowing these people to weaponize unstable and novel legal constructs to DEFRAUD THE ELECTION (Again!)
Hopefully, SCOTUS will realize the kind of world that gets created, a dark and dull and grotesque imposter of the former USA.
We can do better than this.
Scotus needs to take a long period of time to consider this case and allow Team Trump to proceed at a pace that is not hostile to the fundamental concerns here.
I pray about this daily.
We can lose everything if this case is decided unfairly. Literally everything. the people will effectively have no more political power. And all future power from the people can only be formed by FORCE…the killing kind. that’s is where this is headed. Scotus needs to take heed and this warning.
j6 was a walk in the park.
God Bless America.
an 6th..There were 2 diff. Protests that day #1-At the front-Police provoking the crowd [video released]… #2-side&back of Capitol-Police standing down, ALLOWING people on to the balcony & into the building [video suppressed]…Classic FALSE FLAG Event!!!!!
“the vital public interests that favor allowing this prosecution to proceed” And what might those vital public interests be?
Gawd, I hate these people. You don’t need a law degree to read leftist bullshit speak. There was never a chance any of these hacks were going to be fair.
So this is a special ruling for Trump …because they didn’t like what he did. So much for justice is blind and it’s the principle of the matter.
it’s not because of what he did because he didn’t do anything. they don’t like him because he isn’t part of their swamp sucking evil and besides..he’s a white male. america is a dying country.
What it also does, I believe, is it takes away his right for the appeals court to take in up as en banc. That’s where Trump can ask the whole DC circut to rule on the matter. Basically, Trump loses a good two month delay, in his proceedings. But, I’m not an attorney and just read legal opinions for fun.
If Trump can’t see the meat of the ruling, then how can he ask for an en banc hearing or even ask the supreme court to take up the case?
Didn’t Trump already ask the supreme court to rule on this matter, and they denied him, and told him to go thru the DC court?
Would be very interesting if President Trump did not appeal this to the Supreme Court.
Is this the case where our VSGPDJT is charged with inciting an insurrection to overturn the election? If so, “Discovery” would be very interesting.
Would love to see all the “paid crisis actors” hauled into court to testify. All the footage of those people dressed as Capitol Police going into a bathroom inside the Capitol and coming out dressed as MAGA supporters. All the busloads of “protesters” showing up to DC in unmarked buses. All the professional protesters wearing earpieces apparently choreographing the activity of the crowd. The list goes on. Discovery would be very interesting indeed.
All this info was presented in interviews by Tucker, Lara Logan and others with US Rep Clay Higgins. The good guys have all the info. It just so happens that President Trump posted today on his Truth Social account his full endorsement of US Rep Clay Higgins.
Right you are but I have a feeling that none of that would matter.
This is the most sadistic group of people I’ve ever heard of
you’ve never met my three feminist ex-wives.
R u Mormon ?
R u Mor
mon ?FIFY
And covering their asses with a stay pending nothing more than Trump appealing to SCOTUS, just like the Colorado and Maine traitors in their “decisions”. They all know DAMN WELL these decisions will be overturned and are nothing but Lawfare at its worst….
Based on the logic of this absurd ruling on presidential immunity by these 3 judges on the DC Circuit, every retired judge and retired prosecutor can now be sued for any action or any event that took place in their entire career history because if presidents do not have immunity, then why should judges and prosecutors, especially retired judges and retired prosecutors?
But the “public interest” only demands it in PDJT’s case because he is a threat to democracy – you see it’s a one -off as the saying goes – nobody else rises to his threat level , so all these others can sleep safely in their immunity cocoons ( sarcasm)
And congress critters.
There is such a horrific evil that’s consumed DC. If the Supreme Court doesn’t rule based on our Constitution then we’d better be prepared for a whole lot of hurt.
It is coming regardless.
So they are treating a then sitting President as “just another bum from the neighborhood”… interesting …
BTW will SC bounce it back to en banc at Appeals Court level ? Did the 3 judges have the power to do this dipsy-doodle shuffle play past their colleagues on the full court ? As usual, activist judges screwing up the works – poltically motivated decisions make for bad law …
A lost nation
Sorry Ben, we couldn’t keep it
In any other organization, a group of people who so consistently fail to do their job would be fired.
In the government, however, they remain venerated.
Yea. Look no further than the USPS. Ignorant inbreds.
Judge in Trump Case’s Husband Issued Warning of Donald’s ‘Retribution’
The husband of Judge Florence Pan, who is deciding on Donald Trump’s presidential immunity case, warned about the former president’s “retribution” if he wins the 2024 presidential election.
Several remarks from Pan’s husband, Max Stier, the president and CEO of the Partnership for Public Service, calling out the former president resurfaced in recent days, drawing scrutiny from some conservatives.
In a Politico interview published in December 2023, Stier warned about potential “retribution” that could stem from Trump’s plan to reclassify 50,000 civil servants into “Schedule F,” which would allow the president to unilaterally fire them.
https://www.newsweek.com/florence-pan-husband-max-stier-trump-retribution-1865624
Should be Schedule SOS, Sack On Sight.
So, the same applies to go backwards to other “presidents”
?
I read where the court stated that Trump has no presidential immunity for his actions as a private citizen after he left office.
Isn’t he claiming immunity for actions while he was President? And aren’t the charges by Smith for when he was still President?
They said that now that he has returned to private citizen status, he can be prosecuted for anything he did while President.
Are you kidding me. Twisted Democrat thinking.
Sounds like we need to gear up the “no Presidential immunity” bus: https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/02/06/biden-classified-documents-probe/
This is not the United States Of Feelings.
Can we please make that go viral?
But it is the Totalitarian Fascist States of America.
Did anyone expect anything different from a dc court? Not a surprise. The dc court is as bad if not worse than the 9th circus. I wonder if Trump’s lawyers are going to go for an enbanc review or go to the USSC. I, although not being a lawyer, would go for the enbanc to waste more time. After they rule against me, then go to the USSC. The more this manure can be delayed, the better until after the election.
Too bad our side didn’t have thousands of lawsuits ready to be filed against democrats if these are their new rules. How many people were spied on by obama? victims of his gun running into mexico? Biden’s open borders. Illegal vaccine mandates, … Why not sue members of congress, judges, etc
“When you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing; when you see that money is flowing to those who deal not in goods, but in favors; when you see that men get rich more easily by graft than by work, and your laws no longer protect you against them, but protect them against you… you may know that your society is doomed.” – “Atlas Shrugged” by Ayn Rand
“There are two potential violators of man’s rights: the criminals and the government. The great achievement of the United States was to draw a distinction between these two — by forbidding to the second the legalized version of the activities of the first.” – Ayn Rand
Well, so much for that…
Commie-Democrats are out to destroy our Republic – they are in the process of it.
Members of Congress & Judges are civilly & criminally immune for their official acts – why wouldn’t a President be as well. It’s a basic Tennent of the U.S. Constitution separation of powers.
If Trump haters have their way and the current political polls are correct, then President Trump may charge Obama for murder by drone of 3 private citizens. The Installed One (Biden) can be criminally charged for drug and human/sex trafficking across the border. Just name the issue you disagree with or any low-level prosecutor disagrees with and no one will ever run for President – ever. They will be legally pursued for the rest of their lives. It’s the ultimate Lawfare!
This will also eliminate anyone from working in or even consulting with the President or anyone in his administration – no one will ever advise the President out of fear of being prosecuted by the next Administration.
And finally, ALL of this PROVES the statement “the 2020 election was the safest in history” a complete lie – ACTIONS speak louder than words.