The most common refrain from frustrated Ron DeSantis supporters has been, ‘why didn’t he just wait until 2028’?
With the exception of a small group of political followers in the State of Florida, few people really understood what the DeSantis 2024 operation was all about.
Ron DeSantis ’24 began long before people were paying attention. It started when the top echelon of the GOPe UniParty saw candidate Donald Trump win the November 2016 election.
In January 2017, when the DC stop Trump operation known as Trump-Russia took on a new direction, the Republican apparatus was just as much in opposition to the Trump presidency as the Democrat wing.
The Republican politician exodus from Congress in 2018 wasn’t accidental, nor was the weak effort of the GOPe to win congressional seats in that 2018 midterm election.
Given the elements of the ‘stop Trump’ effort, the House of Representatives was part of the overall ‘stop Trump’ design. House Speaker Paul Ryan didn’t announce his retirement in ’18 ahead of the midterm accidentally; he made the announcement because he knew the Republican leadership’s plan.
Ron DeSantis left Congress, along with Paul Ryan, because Ron DeSantis was going to run for the Florida Governor seat as part of his career move. The people around DeSantis who supported his political career (Ryan, Bush, approved Republican types), along with the Club4Growth (David McIntosh), helped guide DeSantis with the proactive planning. The run for governor in ’18 was always done with the expectation and plan to run for the Republican presidential nomination in 2024.
Here’s the key point. DeSantis was always going to run for the Republican Party nomination in 2024. There was never a consideration not to do so. He ran for governor in 2018 specifically to set up the run for the Republican nomination in 2024. That was always the plan.
If President Trump won the 2020 election, DeSantis was positioned to run in 2024. If President Trump lost the 2020 election, DeSantis was positioned to run in 2024. DeSantis was going to run in 2024; not running was not an option. Start from that baseline and everything that took place during his tenure as Florida governor then starts to make a lot more sense.
The professionally Republican DeSantis operation always contained the need to co-opt the MAGA Trump movement.
Just like the Tea Party was infiltrated and diminished back to the control of the GOPe in 2012, so too was the plan to infiltrate MAGA and take control in 2024. This is the reason why DeSantis ran in 2018 to mirror the Trump agenda. Winning Florida via overt and very public support for President Trump was part of the design.
The policy agenda of Ron DeSantis was then structured to mirror the priority of the MAGA base. This was pure strategic and political maneuvering, not a fundamental or ideological alignment in common belief with the priorities of the Trump voter.
Again, begin with the end in mind. The end goal was always DeSantis ’24.
What Florida voters saw unfold in 2021/2022 (social policy nods to create bonafides) was precisely the DeSantis goal to create a MAGA image where the Florida governor would be the torchbearer for the MAGA standard. However, quietly behind DeSantis was the originating establishment old guard.
In December of 2021, a full 17 months prior to the May 2023 official announcement, the invitation to the “conservative influencers” was dispatched. Christina Pushaw was now part of the DeSantis ’24 operation, and she organized the January 6, 2022, meeting (pictured below) for that exact purpose.
This January 2022 preparation was why the people in the photograph were so sensitive about the “invitation” when questioned.
If ordinary voters, MAGA people, realized in early 2022 that Ron DeSantis was recruiting “influencers” for the campaign that was scheduled to begin a year later, it would be a risk. The hidden agenda behind the operation would potentially be exposed. The denials about this organization were extreme, and the ridicule over such a simple question was a “telling” indicator.
By the time the calendar took us to mid 2022, the visible datapoints all went in one direction. The activity indicated DeSantis was going to run for the presidency in 2024, because, well, quite simply, Ron DeSantis was going to run for the presidency in 2024. It was going to happen, and everything taking place was being done with this in mind.
The advanced scheduling was done with the 2024 campaign as the baseline. The legislative effort was constructed with the need for policy accomplishments to support the 2023 announcement. Everything, from the moment Ron DeSantis stepped into office as the Florida governor, was predicated on his prior agreement with the professional Republican apparatus to run for the GOP nomination in 2024.
This is why the Republican Governors Association gave DeSantis $20,000,000.00 in 2022. The plan was for DeSantis to transfer the funds to his 2024 campaign, and the RGA was seeding the money in 2022 because they could not do it after he made the announcement in 2023.
It was being done by design, following the originating plan. No one would question the $20 million, even though he didn’t need it, in a reelection year. Also, the RGA could not be seen as putting a finger on the scale for the GOP nomination; so it needed to be done early by design.
The professionally Republican elements, including the DC leadership team, knew Ron DeSantis was going to run for the nomination in 2024. This is the same DC leadership team that supports the removal of MAGA, just like that same leadership team supported the elimination of the Tea Party who were very effective at removing UniParty members through the primary process in 2010 and 2012. Lessons were learned, now the playbook was being duplicated.
The DC leadership team also knew the DOJ team was going to raid Mar-a-Lago. After all, the National Archives was working in the background with the DOJ to formulate the justification for the raid. DC doesn’t keep secrets like this very well and the politically connected knew what was going to happen in advance.
This is the explanation for why the team around Ron DeSantis scheduled his time in the bunker (5 days) to coincide with the ‘shock-and-awe’ FBI raid.
The goal was to hunker down, watch the DOJ/FBI drop bombs on candidate Trump, then have Ron DeSantis emerge from the bunker in Mid-August 2022 with a national endorsement tour, soon to be followed by a soft national campaign kickoff under the guise of a “book tour.”
Hiding this advanced scheduling is why the DeSantis legislative team changed the state rules/laws for tracking the Florida Governor’s travel details. They left nothing to chance. The ruse needed to be maintained. Sunlight, even in hindsight, was/is a real threat.
When you start looking with this specific retrospective in mind, then suddenly there is clarity surrounding the hubris exhibited by everyone in the DeSantis camp, including Casey DeSantis.
Ron left Congress in 2018 to advance his career and position himself for the 2024 GOP nomination. Waiting and running in 2028 was never an option, because running in 2024 was always the original plan. It wasn’t only a grossly inflated sense of self-importance that drove the decision, although that has always been a character trait of Ron DeSantis, the 2024 race was the original plan supported by every member of the pro-DeSantis team.
Once you realize the reality of Ron and Casey’s one-way ticket, then you start to recognize how cunning and deceitful they are. It is not coincidental that cunning and deceptive are also the adjectives used to describe the DC Republican establishment.
Many people were fooled by this establishment Republican plan; but then again, many people were previously fooled by all the professional Republican mask wearers…. So don’t feel bad if you were tricked by the duplicity.
After all, it was not that long ago when Senator Jeff Sessions was the widely espoused “most conservative” member of the upper chamber….
…How did that work out for us?
My cat has always been suspicious of that 20 post win!
Someone finally joined me on this – it so happened that the Red Wave of 2022 Crashed at the Florida Georgia line. I mean in what world does Rubio win by 18? Fishy in Florida!!
Fishier in Georgia.
Hershel did not lose
If only Professor Halderman had been in Georgia with the opposing Attorneys pen on election night in 2022! The steal by Warnock over Walker would NOT HAVE OCCURRED!!! 🤔
lindell is right about FL —
Dominion stopped cheating on behalf of Democrats in key areas. MSM and DeSantis were immediate in their insistence that Trump lost the Red Wave
Democrats barely funded Crist, almost like they were complicit
DeSantis taking the money and political support of the GOPe was absolutely the kiss of death to his campaign hopes. He might as well have been bitten by a Copperhead Rattle snake, the end would have been just as sure. The GOPe no longer controls the Republican party and they are both too stupid and too arrogant to ever figure that out. Control of the candidates for many offices today belongs to MAGA, or as I like to put it “We the People” Suck it up you jerks your days of running the party are finis Kaput! Go into your safe rooms and cry….while conservative America cheers your total disgrace.
Who will be running in 2028….. if the country survives?
I think Cruz is planning to run, and I’m sure a few more from Congress will run too. Maybe Christie again. Pence might try too. lol
I want Gaetz.
There are a few comments (can’t remember if here or in another thread) that claim Gaetz is part of the MAGA takeover. If anyone has info that would be great.
Hopefully, PDJT has his successor picked and primed.
i will….for burmuda or st. marteens.
How about Ben Carson as President with Trump as his VP? 🙂
I don’t think Dr. Carson has the gifts of negotiating (Art of the Deal) that our Father saw fit to give The Donald. Ben is a skilled doctor but not experienced as a manager of a complex multi-tiered, multifaceted international business that’s always had to deal with the corrupt government.
I’m not in favor of Carson being the VP nominee for the same reasons. He’s a very intelligent man, but running the White House requires street smarts and an ability to think like a crook because of having dealt with crooks for decades. That’s why Trump excelled at the job despite being surrounded by an unlimited supply of self serving corrupt assholes who were politically skilled deceivers.
Carson is no Trump, and he doesn’t have to be. But look again and you’ll find he does have street smarts in spades.
And he has his own way of drawing in and holding an audience, which I noted in a speech he gave in Iowa. He was soft-spoken but had Trump’s ability to speak off the cuff with no teleprompter while barely needing to consult his notes. Carson’s mastery on the subject of Biden’s failures presented with a sprinkling of deadpan dry humor had the audience enthralled and securely in the palm of his hands.
Dr. Ben Carson is a problem solver of some of the most complex problems known to man. To work on a human computer (two joined into one even) and separate it into two fully functional computers, it is, well, a miracle.
He surveyed the problem and ran through different solutions analytically before attempting the operation.
To put it not so mildly, the man is a genius that can take apart the Deep State categorically by analyzing the problem and running the solutions. Just like any competent creative engineer would.
He has the ability to focus on the problem and the different possible outcomes of each step, and aligning the problem ratio to the end that is desired.
Soft spoken and gentle hide a cauterizing mind when faced with a monumental problem that needs to be solved.
Looking at your comment and reading your reservations about Dr. Carson, I am inclined to disagree with your assessment. Please understand, I do not say that you are wrong, given the evidence you have presented, indeed, one would be inclined to agree with you. I am basing my opinions on the experience of how a creative mind works. And I could be totally wrong in my opinion too.
We were made aware of the changes in laws that RD made that let him pull this off. Thank you, Sundance.
What I love is now he’ll have dead time. His Governor term ends in Jan 2027 and unless he runs to be a US Representative again he won’t be in a political position. 🙂 There’s no way he would run for a lesser position in the Florida Government. It’s delicious. KARMA
senate? you didn’t mention that.
I was thinking of the timing. He just needs a 2 year filler if he thinks he can win the 2028 presidential race. Winning a US Representative seat would be easier than a Senate seat, and I don’t know if there will be a Senate seat available in 2026.
So now Desantis has positioned himself as a failure as Florida governor. We have two more years to put up with him and his wife. Hopefully the Republican assembly in Florida can drive the Trump MAGA agenda.
Look, he is not a failure. He is a great governor. Nor did Trump actually think he was a bad governor. On the contrary, Trump lauded him as a great governor and only bashed him when he was running against Trump.
Now, no doubt, Trump will now sing DeSantis’ praises again as a great governor.
Don’t take everything candidates say in the primaries as gospel truth, and that includes what Trump says as well.
Sheesh. You still don’t comprehend DeSantis’ sly deception. He was NEVER there to be a “great governor”. It was all an act to fool people into believing he was “sort of like Trump” and “pro-MAGA”.
He is no such person. He’s a scheming political tool who understood how to be aggressive on social issues that don’t threaten the GOPe grift of taxpayer money or GOPe’s sellout to permit multinational corporation influence over regulations and lawmakers.
Dealing assertively with Biden’s Vaxx policies and the Lefts immorality re.perverted sexual issues and children looks great on TV and makes for good news articles that the conservative voters eat up, but doesn’t come anywhere close to attacking the corruption that makes the Uniparty Big Club members wealthy beyond imagination and has weaponized our government against us.
DeSantis is no better than Romney from a political perspective, he just has much less arrogance and a bit better acting ability.
As others have stated previously, the charlatan was a cardboard cutout that was never sincere or real.
Sundance just made an example of you!!! You should be honored! 😂🤣😂🤣😂
AI alert. He doesn’t even need bathroom breaks
Never Give Up The Con.
So by this thinking……….is it likely that the swamp would put all their eggs in one basket, (only to have that basket fall apart and then they have nothing to fall back on)?
Do developers wait until the last minute to break ground on the next house they will build? Tie up all the loose ends from the last house before even thinking about the next one?
Ramswampy would be a good one to scrutinize on such matters.
H3ll’s bells………in MY mind’s eye……..I don’t fully trust Trump. I mean look at all that man has had to endure. How is that even possible for one person to put up with SOOOO much?
There IS always that element of Heavenly intervention, (which should never be disregarded).
((Frankly, I don’t even fully trust myself.))
Blind following of anyone or anything is part of what makes Pied Piper-types and dictators so successful.
Just sayin’……………
IMO the fallback is the uniparty (commiecrats included) working to elect Nimarata.
She’s playing a double role, plan B for both the GOPe and the Democrats (Tucker mentioned the latter in one of his programs).
She’s moaning while reading the Kama Sutra.
For her, it’s not cultural appropriation.
She is utterly unlikeable and unelectable. What “powers” picked her out of a lineup? The box-checking anti-white male wing of the party? Surely they could have found someone else.
I keep thinking Ron’s been told to chill and let the convention come calling to nominate him.
It’s probably the same people who told Jeff DeWit to offer Kari Lake a bribe to drop out. They like compliant obedient women who lust after money and have no morals or principles. Kind of like whores. lol Only in suits.
Your concern regarding VSG is duly noted.
😉
Heh – Did you just say “Ramswampy”?…
I don’t fully trust Trump
lol
Would love to see some objectivity here. Like what if trump continues to fund Ukraine? We already know that sd will make excuses and still support trumps decision.
Yah, great thing to focus on because if Haley or Biden are President things are going to be so much better ….
I believe you are full of something that rhymes with bit.
Name some previous “excuses” SD has made.
Yea, you can’t, you’re just a marxist plant.
If you want to see some objectivity here I invite you to use the indicative mood, not the subjunctive “if”. After all, President Trump has a track record to evaluate.
As far as I’m concerned on this, the big donor class may have decided that DeSantis was indeed the follow up of the Trump last Administration. Therefore, if they totally corrupt his chances NOW by manipulating him into doing the things that he did against MAGA, that he would have NO CHANCE in ’28 of being Trump’s follow up. Just thinking ahead….Very Conceivable…
Lie, cheat and steal.
“I did not have sex with that woman.”
“I am not a candidate. ”
Believe them when they SHOW you who they are.
No difference in the two statements above. Anyone
Who will lie on that scale will cheat and steal also.
Are you ready to call Slick Willy a low life scum but unable to recognize the same tendencies in other POLITICIANS?
Throw your emotions on the floor and deal with it; deal with facts not desires, wishes or dreams.
Rant over. (Sorry but I am done with DeSantis kool-aid drinkers and DeSantis trolls.)
I need Betsy’s post of the dump truck full of ‘thumbs up’….
Been done with DeSantis since seeing who funded him and ran his campaign. It’s not rocket science. Even after Sundance wrote all the particulars about DeSantis again in this follow up story, you’ll still see people post things like, “if DeSantis had just supported Trump he could have run in 2028”. So they know DeSantis is a phony but if he’d only given phony support to Trump he could have run in 2028. It’s beyond my understanding to think like that.
I’m one of the people who said that about DeSantis (waiting until 2028) but I said it was a good thing he didn’t wait because we might not have found out how awful he is.
This begs the question why are We The MAGA People still part of the Republican Party? The Republican Party is probably scheming right how to lose the House and have the Democrats keep the Senate! That way when President Trump gets elected he can’t accomplish much. DeceptiCon Senator Thune has complained that President Trump isn’t helping him with the southern border negotiations! What a loathsome Senator he wants to sell us out for amnesty and President Trump wants to deport all of ChiCom Joe’s invited walk ins!!!
Wouldn’t surprise me if the GOPe are planning to rehabilitate Ron DeSantis and run him again in 2024! They despise us and President Trump and that’s as obvious as all hell! JMO
“This begs the question why are We The MAGA People still part of the Republican Party?”
For me, it’s because Trump is using them to run. We all know it’s next to impossible for a third party candidate to win. I want to be able to vote in the primary for Trump as well.
Although, I did hear that something like 43% of voters now are independent so the two-party stronghold on elections may be weakening. Voters are becoming less loyal to party establishment.
It is mind boggling if you have ever viewed the process of establishing a new political party…I think it takes a few years….
The name Republican in it self doesn’t not mean loyalty to the party apparatus. I don’t need to change the name Republican to Independent to be independent.
In my state if you want to make changes in the party you use the name of the party you want to make changes in.
whether it’s being a precinct committeeman or running for political office. I know some people derive satisfaction by calling themselves Independents but to me it seems like cutting off your nose to spite one’s face, if your goal is to change the party. Trump knows this and uses it.
I agree. A spin-off party would be easily exploited as a splitter strategy.
The only reason so many of us never noticed the UNiparty construct prior to Donald Trump, is that they didn’t need to steal elections from anybody else!
Prior to President Trump, all political candidates played for the same team, irrespective of party affiliation.
MAGA doesn’t have enough people in office yet to spin off a 3rd party. Majorities in Congress are ultra important, it’s best to be part of the GOP for now.
New York State has the Conservative Party which was started by William F Buckley. I suspect that he was more RINO than Conservative on important issues like immigration and trade.
And therein lies our failure. Hoping our enemies let us win. Sounds good! ☹️
It’s a slow process. Did you think it would take 4 years? We need to educate voters AND at every opportunity primary the GOPes and install better people. It will take decades. You’ve declared loss already, that’s sad.
Third parties are dead ends – graveyards.
Pay attention to RFKJr’s creation of the We The People party in California. Then get back to me.
I’m aware of all that and my post was really more rhetorical. Look what the GOPe did to the Tea Party! I’m frustrated that the GOPe is doing the same to MAGA and America Firsters! With McConnell running the Senate and holy man Johnson as Speaker spending trillions via CRs and billions on the Green New Deal hoax and Ronna is still in charge of the RNC? Where’s the progress? Where’s the outrage over the open border? Now we find out all are voting machines can be hacked as more States buy more of the same machines? America is as corrupt the Ukraine probably more so!
We are a conflicted group. SD woke me up about being Republican (I left it), and now I’m dunked for refusing to fall in line with the Republican Party-as-asset thinking. It’s long shot vs no shot I guess.
Citizens SCREAM for the evolution of a legitimate opposition party ! We are primed and ready to strip the Repunlican Party, and Ronna Romney, of a signicant portion of current Republicans. We, the citizens,workers, disenfranchized and independents, must create that third party immediately after, Trump is re-elected !
It CAN be done, in time for the 2026, midterm elections !
Me thinks Ronna come next January will be a very distant thing of the past.
President Trump handed the RNC victory on a silver platter and they didn’t want it!
Meaning her job as America destroyer will have been successful? Probably true.
Finding possibilites in the primary elections is the task.
The Uniparty establishment always has its candidate(s). As has often been observed here, there are often numerous candidates presented to execute the “splitter” strategy where trying to discern the actual MAGA candidate becomes difficult, thus permitting the GOPe preference to prevail.
Look across the country, find candidates that are trustworthy, and channel your support. Find someone in your home state, local city who you can gauge.
In Ohio, we have two estabishment candidates for the senate – Dolan & LaRose – and one MAGA candidate – Moreno.
LaRose pretends to be the America First candidate, and “endorsed” PDJT when he announced. His history is never-trumper — has called PDJT racist, appalling, disgusting, etc. A couple quotes -“every mail box is a drop box,” and hyped “manure message” when a farmer outlined “No Trump” in manure where PDJT was to fly over. And many other messages of similar opinion.
JD Vance has been MAGA, has followed through on the promise and he also supports Bernie Moreno. As do PDJT, Kari Lake, Roger Marshall, Grenell, and many more.
Each of us needs to find a race(s) to support. PDJT needs allies. THAT is up to us. MAGA
I’ve been crowing about this on here for two years. I’m over the argument we need to keep the R party infrastructure to win blah blah. That infrastructure is the very problem we b^ tch about daily… it won’t be high jacked and made our servant. We couldn’t even get Ronna McDonald out of the chair.
This R party is Not. Our. Friend. To continue to hide our head in the sand about that is going to crush us. Do I know the way around them for 2024? No. But hoping for R cooperation isn’t it either.
DC is collapsed and cannot be fixed with just Trump, it is remote-controlled from the outside and those powers aren’t elected. Soros and Zuck are untouchable. They’re allowed to fund communists and strategize to their hearts’ content… most Republicans are court jesters to them.
Get a MAGA party going or continue to kiss the R ring.
We don’t need a 3rd party. We take over the GOP. The new GOP is MAGA, Trump’s GOP. It’s much easier than trying to build a viable 3rd party. For majorities we would need to side with the GOP anyway, there wouldn’t be enough MAGA candidates to make a majority and you know majorities are extremely important, majorities control legislative actions, they choose committee chairs, they launch investigations, etc.
Since Trump came along it is so very easy to spot the RINOs and the liars and dissemblers who pretend to be MAGA. Fortunately we are witnessing the beginning of the end of that crowd (I hope).
The thought of having to vote for any GOPe loser nauseates me. If Trump somehow gets convicted of something, or he is successfully removed from a ballot, I will write his name in as a protest vote
I have been reading lately of the pattern that occurs whenever we get a deep state defying President or a conservative into the WH. It’s always the CIA and the FBI. Kennedy was taken out by a coup in broad daylight involving the CIA. Nixon was taken out by the CIA who invented Watergate. Reagan was almost impeached and removed by the CIA inspired Iran Contra boondoggle.
Schumer actually gave away the entire plan with his “six ways from Sunday” remark. Don’t mess with the deep state.
Russia collusion was a deep state op, as were the charges of insurrection, as were the phony impeachments and the equally phony J6 hearings. Along with all of the other garbage Trump has been subjected to since he left the office, including all the lawfare garbage, the CIA/FBI nexus is now out in the open. And we know there is only one option left if Trump gets elected.
Trump ’24 MAGA
The thought of having to vote for any GOPe loser nauseates me.
I hear you. But when it comes to seats in Congress you might need to. We cannot elect Trump and then give him Democrat control of Congress or they’ll continue the endless harassment of investigations and impeachments. If the Democrats have a big enough majority they could actually remove Trump from office. We need to make sure the Democrats have as little power as possible.
Agreed. But what is to stop some RINO from voting against Trump
The chance is much higher that a Democrat would do something to hurt Trump than even a RINO would. But don’t overlook the other benefits of majorities, the majority party calls the shots, chairs the committees and appoints committeemembers, and more. Majorities are powerful.
Don’t over think your speculation.
The Art of War —
Your last sentence is why the criteria for VP selection needs to be PDJT’s armour of protection, President Trump’s insurance policy against globalist/deep state desire to impeach or remove him.
Kamala’s most valuable role for Biden is as his insurance policy –removing Biden means Kamala in the oval office.
President Trump’s VP needs to be wholly unpalatable to the left. With an iron backbone and proven abilty to withstand the 24/7, 360 degree onslaught by enemies that would make most humans crumble and cave.
Kari Lake and General Mike Flynn come to mind. Any other ideas of who would be a strong insurance policy for PDJT with an Iron Maga Backbone in the face of deep state onslaught?
Maybe Sarah Palin, just one that comes to mind, in the mindset of an insurance policy.
Flynn? He pled guilty to crimes he didn’t even commit, cooperated with the Deep State under the guise of protecting his lobbyist son from FARA charges. He finally started fighting back, but it’s not what I’d call an iron backbone
I’m not going to blame him for that.
Trump listened to Pence.
I’d love to have Flynn in admin. Not sure about VP though.
Kari Lake: loyal and loathed. Two crucial points
Rfk jr VP
RJK Jr is not MAGA at all. Kennedy’s campaign website lays out an extreme leftist, green-new-deal, gun control, woke agenda.
Authoritarian much? He says he wants to jail climate change deniers and put out of business companies he believes are a threat to the climate.
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https://www.climatedepot.com/2014/09/21/robert-f-kennedy-jr-wants-to-jail-his-political-opponents-accuses-koch-brothers-of-treason-they-ought-to-be-serving-time-for-it/
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https://heartland.org/opinion/climate-change-deniers-should-be-jailed-rfk-jr/
https://reason.com/2023/04/28/the-very-strange-new-respect-for-authoritarian-democrat-robert-f-kennedy-jr/
RFK is a Democrat.
Agreed.
The pictures are great, indicating who those people are would be even greater. In this age of information overload and podcasts where you only hear voices, it’s not easy to know who’s who. Thanks.
One of the pictured people is a great friend of the “Ace” blog and frequently quoted. That blog turned on Trump to worship DeSantis
Who?
I loved Ace of Spades after they got over Trump skepticism in 2016…
Ace went DeSimp. I was horrified, and way more so when the smart guy Sefton trotted along a little later. AoS is a great loss.
Tracy Beanz too… she’s not the most brilliant, but she’s a dogged researcher.
Thank GOD Frank didn’t fall for DeSimpery.
Here they are: Ron DeSantis courts conservative influencers at the governor’s mansion as feud with Trump grows | Daily Mail Online
The group included Fox News’ Lisa Marie Boothe, Turning Point USA’s Benny Johnson, Newsweek opinion editor Josh Hammer, The Rubin Report’s Dave Rubin, New York Post and FoxNews.com columnist Karol Markowicz, Claremont Institute fellow David Reaboi and conservative writers Jordan Schachtel and John Cardillo.
Thank you.
Isn’t that Buck Sexton also in one of those pictures ?
Probably all spooks.
Yes. The jokester Benny Hill Johnson couldn’t influence an ant. If you know his YT channel you’ll know the “quality” of reportage he brings.
lol I just posted that I like Benny.
He influences a lot of normies, he’s cheerful… he’s pro-Trump. I think.
Too pro-Vivek but at the moment that’s probably not hurting anything. We’ll see
Someone who knows Benny Johnson’s wife said she was DeSimp-ish
Since then, because of this photo, I’ve watched Benny closely.
He’s overtly pro-Trump but he coached Vivek for a debate. I like Benny but one must be wary
This was an interesting article and very thought provoking. However unlike some I don’t see anything here other than politics as usual. The Republican establishment just saw DeSantis as a more acceptable candidate than Trump. He would play according to their rules but be conservative enough to appeal to the rank and file conservative voter. If Trump had remained in office thru 2024, which they expected DeSantis would have ridden Trump’s coattails into office much as Bush the Elder did in 1988. Sorry guys nothing diabolical here just Republican politics as usual. What threw a monkey wrench into the plan was the democrats stole the 2020 election and the thief has become obvious to everyone except the terminally stupid democrat voters who live in a fantasy world. The socialist appear to have made an alliance with the neo-nazi Globalist in order to move up the date for the take-over of the Federal government. The real question here is why did they move up the date? What is it about Trump that caused them to do it? That is the question CTH needs to answer for the readers. There have been Populist in the pass and the Washington Swamp just hunkered down and waited till they passed, but Trump has put them in panic mode, why? Why has Andrew Soros taken a risk of being arrested to put out a thinly veiled ad for a hitman, or was he just passing on a message?? We are setting on a potential national powderkeg and may well be on the verge of a Civil War especially if the democrats steal the election again or God forbid they take violent action against Trump. Why does the Republican Establishment appear to be in complete denial of what is going on? Please answer the question what is Trumps motivation and why does the Left fear him so much theywill do anthing to stop him???
Because Trump is not just a talking point candidate. He is actually trying to help the public at large and trying to right a lot of wrongs that has been done in past years. They are use to people that don’t normally plan on doing any of the things they promised. Just look at Congress. Trump actually cares and is working for the people. They don’t want him doing that because they’re trying to turn this country into 3rd world globalist country controlled by the idiots in Davos and beyond.
True but imo, DeSantis was keeping his promises as well and did very well at it.
Trump’s big problems are that he put the wrong people in charge; didn’t exercise presidential authority and control over the bureaucracy, and he went along with the globalist operation during Covid. He’s great on a lot of stuff, however.
Putting Fauci in charge was a catastrophe of epic proportions as was Operation Warp Speed. That was Davos all the way, and for some reason Trump seems to have a blind spot about it.
Just stop.
DeSantis has done very little.
Note, the voting machines are still in Florida. He never has barked about that.
Pence put Fauci in charge. Fauci was a Senior Officer, so not expendable.
PRESIDENT Trump had two bad options…keep the planet locked down for ten years, facing a long term ‘vaccine’ approval process, or putting governors on notice for their own states to stay open and create competition for solutions.
Remember, PRESIDENT Trump came out early on Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine.
You might do better over at Politico.
Trump did, in fact, put Fauci in charge as well as Pence. Quit making excuses for that.
Trump had plenty of other options as well. He could have listened to all the elite epidemiologists in the country instead of government hacks, for one thing.
He could have suspended Fauci while he was being investigated for funding bioweapons research in Wuhan, China. Not something that hard to sell. Just tell the country he was funding gain of function in China, and we want to get to the bottom of that.
He could have directed NIH funding to go towards things like HCQ and early treatments. Get rid of Collins as well
Had he consulted the elite scientists DeSantis did, he could have stood before the country and said he’s following their advice, and so no lockdowns. No lockdowns, then maybe no election stolen, and of course preserved the jobs of millions and millions of people.
He rolled over to the DS and the democrats like Fauci.
DeSantis shut down Florida for six months and encouraged Florida residents to take the vaccine.
South Dakota and other states didn’t shut down.
First, Florida and DeSantis resisted but under immense pressure and after meeting with Trump, DeSantis relented. This is fact. As a non-friendly outle, NPR, reported:
“Florida has now joined the list of states that are ordering residents to remain in their homes for all but essential activities to help stop the spread of the coronavirus. Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis made the announcement at an afternoon briefing. It was just a few hours after he spoke to President Trump.
…..
Until now, Florida remained the holdout among states hit hard by the coronavirus in not ordering residents to stay at home. A number of cities and counties in the state previously issued stay-at-home orders for residents, including Miami-Dade, Broward and Palm Beach counties, which have over 60% of the state’s COVID-19 cases. DeSantis had defended his stance, saying that Florida is a large state where more than a dozen counties still have few, if any, cases.”
So beginning in April, DeSantis did what Trump wanted and locked down. In June, he opened back up. That’s not 6 months.
And yes, following Trump’s lead, he encouraged people to take the vaccine but he was anti-lockdown by then, and his surgeon general now advises no one take the jab. I realize SD did not shut down but among very large states, Florida was and has been a leader.
You’re wrong about DeSantis.
I’ve been skeptical since DeSantis2024 hashtag emerged in jan 2021 and DeSantis didn’t shut it down immediately.
What strikes me most in my efforts to research is how little we know about DeSantis.
Casey/Ron’s families?
How Ron’s sister actually died?
St Elmo’s club at Yale was scraped from Wikipedia.
We don’t know what he did at Gitmo and Fallujah.
His Congressional record is decidedly Ryan-esque until he needed Trump endorsement.
He’s a fraud; the question is how long he was groomed. The lack of info reminded me of Obama
You haven’t grasped the strategy of the Great Awakening yet. Keep digging! It’s a bit more complex than you think. It is working very well though.
I’ve heard it all, in-depth and various nuances as well. Think a lot of it is DS psy-op disinformation.
What part of it is not?
No, no no. Trump didn’t put Fauci in charge. Fauci was already in charge by virtue of the position he held. Fauci was a career employee, not a political appointee. It would be as hard for Trump to fire him as firing a federal judge.
And, Fauci was a career employee, not a political appointee. He could not be fired without cause, even by the President.
PS Mitch was in charge of approving appointments.
Yeah, I know the Senate has to approve, but Trump had ample cause for pushback and didn’t do it. He could have fired Wray and a bunch of others after they clearly engaged in a soft coup attempt, and not all appointments required senate approval. He didn’t have to fire General Flynn right off the bat.
He could force out corrupt people in the IC by just rescinding their security clearances, and on Mitch and the senate, Trump is pretty good at stream-rolling people. He didn’t try.
Based on your assessment that he could have done what ought to have been done without major blowback/impeachment from the 4th estate and his own party but chose not to, why wouldn’t you assume he’d do the same if reelected?
Just for shits and giggles, who among the decision makers
were in congress back in 83-84 , when Fauci was turned
into the HIVC czar?
Probably Pelosi. More so because she “represents”(cough)
San Fransisco. HIV central, back in the day.
Also, she’s mob. Mob can smell mob. She likes vFauci’s
after shave. Might have even made $$ from Fauci’s
HIV treatment scams.
Finally, Fauci’s actions/ carnage create juicy opportunities
for “wrap around smears” against political enemies.
DeSantis keeping promises? Hello?
>> the
idiotsdevils in Davos and beyond. FIFYThe establishment is worried that he will do as stated last week not support the CBDC (Central Bank Digital Currency) and by not supporting it remove their future money laundry operation.
Dog whistle to hidden forces already out there to act with “extreme prejudice”? Yes, Secret Service needs to get on this stat.
Consider this: Trump was the Monkey Wrench, not the stolen election.
The Republican party allowed Trump to win the primary because he was perceived as the least likely to win. All the major polling, right up to election day indicated Clinton was a shoo-in for the presidency. Trump was not supposed to win! The GOP had no intention of giving him a second term.
2016 was the fairest election in many years because the Uniparty didn’t think it needed to cheat. Hence the blatantly egregious fraud in 2020 as they were not going to let that happen again.
So, yes, absolutely diabolical.
The last populist president was Reagan. According to Nancy’s memoir, when it became clear that he was likely to win the primary, the GOP leadership sat him down and told him that if he wanted to be president, George Bush would be his running mate. Nancy hated the Bushes and the GOP ever since. She said that George was constantly undermining much that Ron tried to do. And when Bush senior was elected as Reagan’s third term, he set about to overturn much that Ron did manage to accomplish.
So, no the deep state doesn’t just hunker down. They remain quite active below the surface.
Now, why would Trump be fighting the deep state so aggressively? One word, Melania.
Her relationship with Don brought him to faith in God and a hatred for Socialism. Melania came from Slovenia, formerly a part of the post-WWII communist entity of Yugoslavia. She is much more intimately acquainted with the evil that we currently face.
Trump fights as someone in it for a purpose. This is why he causes the Uniparty to panic.
Trump had another wife who helped inservice him on how communism works,
and what it does to people.
Ivanka was from Czecholslavakia, remember? Also, she was born early enough to
remember what happened there in 1956. When they declared independence, and
not. one. country. backed them up.
While the establishment GOPe and DS may see DeSantis as “politics as usual,” we around here don’t want “politics as usual.”
And if you haven’t figured out why the establishment is after Trump, then you haven’t done your homework. Sundance answered this question a long, long, LONG time ago. So instead of whining and complaining and demanding that the Treehouse answer your questions, try searching the site for your answers.
Here’s a hint: “There are TRILLIONS at stake!”
Uniparty politics as usual IS diabolical.
CTH has been writing about President Trumps motivation for years! Why can’t there be more than one George Washington?
DeSantis was playing the role of Bush 41, the guy that comes in a subverts everything and reestablishes the Bush/Cheney wings control over the GOP. Bush hijacked Reagan’s legacy, destroyed the Reagan voter coalition and cemented the Bush families control over the GOP for over a generation.
It’s too bad Jeff Childers Coffee n Covid doesn’t get it. Somebody should personally reach out to him there in Florida and reveal the truth to him.
I think he was in on the ground floor in Florida of the DeSantis for President movement. He is definitely not MAGA. He thought that DeSantis using Twitter to launch his campaign was‘brilliant’. He was devastated by DeSantis dropping out.
Interesting timing for his substack, focused on Covid. There are many commenters who continuously seek to tie the damage done to our nation during the pandemic around Trump’s neck like an albatross. This is the only issue they care about. Comments reek of TDS hatred.
Many believe this will end Trump’s movement.
And I do pushback regularly. No sign of change in Jeff. Just naive?
Poor President Trump. Every single time these bums backstab him.
The American people are with you Sir.
This article actually brought tears to my eyes, one statement in particular:
Just like the Tea Party was infiltrated and diminished back to the control of the GOPe in 2012, so too was the plan to infiltrate MAGA and take control in 2024.
There are so many people, the innocent (naive) DeSantis fans especially, who do not understand what DeSantis represents. Even the pundits on TV seem to not understand it, or else they are unwilling to divulge.
What I find most interesting now are the lame attempts by DeSantis to “explain” his loss. Obviously he can’t reveal the plan so the explanations are ludicrous. He lost because Trump got a boost from the indictments?? He lost because Trump had favorable media coverage?? Those are excuses he provided in an interview on Sunday which was published on Monday.
I used to think that the original plan was to run DeSantis in 2028 but now I agree with you, 2024 was always the target year. Among a variety of reasons it would avoid dead time in his political career, he would move into the White House in Jan 2025 two years before his Governor term expired. If he waited to run until 2028 there would be an uncomfortable two year gap with no legitimate funding.
Everyone should keep in mind that Florida has very lax campaign finance rules, they allow unlimited contributions to state campaigns. This was key in the DeSantis plan, but without a state campaign during the dead time how is he going to rake in contributions?
Thank you Florida for not allowing 3 consecutive terms for the Governor position.
Trump must have been aware of DeSantis’ intention to run in 2024 which would explain why Trump kept teasing his run and then announced very early. For the 2016 election Trump announced 17 months in advance (Jun 2015), for the 2024 election he announced a full 24 months in advance (Nov 2022). Team DeSantis probably had temper tantrums.
DeSantis is actually WORSE than Haley. Haley is up-front about her plan. DeSantis is a two-faced money-grubbing liar.
Didn’t Florida change the law re: running for another office while in office so he didn’t have to resign Governorship? What makes anyone think the 2 term change isn’t next?
That thought crossed my mind. That would be very interesting indeed.
Same here, I thought about that earlier today. I will not be surprised at all if they do it unless it’s in the state Constitution which would be much more difficult to change.
They can’t drag out the Runt Con that far, not a chance, he couldn’t survive the drubbing.
“He’s dead, Jim, he’s dead.”
👏 👏 👏
I did not realize that DeSantis left Congress with that group of republicans that were leaving to give the House to the democrats. Because that is exactly what happened. Enough of them left that we lost the House. Trump had no idea what they were up to. And that is why Trump couldn’t get much more of his legislation passed after the first two years.
Ron and his team had a plan and I’m so glad it didn’t work. Even though the public had no idea there was a plan, when it was put into action the Maga voters said NO!
I find it interesting that the Media (Hannity & Fox crew) are already coronating him for 2028 and that probably won’t work out either. Because whoever Trump picks for VP will probably be the person that he will support in 2028, if they don’t stab him and us in the back like Pence did. And I really can’t see him selecting DeSantis for Veep. We will soon see who that lucky person will be.
I think they are doing it again this year.
” I did not realize that DeSantis left Congress with that group of republicans that were leaving to give the House to the democrats.”
That’s crazy. The seat is reliably Republican, and DeSantis moving on did not change that or help Pelosi.
Unfortunately, Republicans are not reliable, when it comes to doing the right thing.
That wasn’t the point.
The point wasn’t A SEAT it was a third of the House (?) leaving
And 2018 was a huge cheat year. CA implemented ridiculous new laws as well as the usual illegal alien vote, no oversight, etc
I don’t think Trump is going to pick a VP so they can run for President after he’s out of office. This has now become old politics like so many other changes Trump has done. I’m hoping he will spend his four years in office with a plan to pick and run a true MAGA candidate that we can see as capable and trust to continue Trump’s plans, because not having anyone we can trust who’s up to the job, is what concerns many, when Trump is out of office.
Those seats could have been filled by Republicans but the dumb voters didn’t make it happen.
Anyone remember the “red wave” that didn’t happen? I have suspected for a while now that the Florida governors election was rigged to allow the illusion of a “red wave” and allow Meatball to show some momentum. It could have been as simple as NOT manipulating the machines (a la 2000 mules) and letting the real vote happen. SD nails it again and this only reinforces my belief of how corrupt our system has become.
I blame the lack of red wave on stupidity of voters plus the usual Democrat voting fraud. I don’t think the failure to take control of the Senate was planned. There are plenty of people who would let a Democrat take an important House or Senate seat rather than vote for a GOP candidate they dislike. (Oz in Pennsylvania, for example) They need to stop doing that.
If we elect Trump in November but the Democrats have control of Congress, it’s going to be non-stop misery for Trump. Endless investigations and impeachments, and if the Dems are able to get a large enough majority in the Senate they can actually remove Trump from office. We can’t let this happen. We go to all the trouble to elect Trump but don’t provide him the support he needs.
I have this internal fight with myself all the time…”vote for the RINO” or Trump’s administration is dead in the water. Then, I think of the Revolutionary War soldiers, bitter cold, no pay, no proper clothing, slop for food, and I remember that I’m an American. I will not vote for my RINO Senator up for re-election this year, nor my ball-less House Rep. I just can’t do it.
If you allow Democrats to seize control of the House then there will be endless harassment of Trump and they will harass everyone associated with Trump too. Sometimes you just need to hold your nose and vote for the least worst person. HELP TRUMP. Dems in control of Congress will hurt him.
Parnell was Trump’s PA pick. He’s awesome.
But was screwed over using threats by ex-wife so he dropped out; Oz was a late add. Not MAGA, but he shouldn’t have lost… again, PA is fraud central, though
I love your avatar, “Felonius Mopery.” 🤣
I LOLed, as the kids like Nim say!
I’m with Lindell and the FL election integrity group on +20 DeSantis.
Rubio was +16.
DeSantis bought more Dominion machines, was chummy w/Dominion lawyer
Lindell thinks Dominion didn’t necessarily cheat on DeSantis (and Rubio) behalf, but rather that they didn’t cheat for Democrats this time.
Given that DeSantis and MSM emerged the next day in a chorus blaming Trump for lack of red wave + praising DeSantis for being a WINNER! wheee! Win with Ron!!!
it was clearly a planned op.
And then MAGA was rigged via lack of funding and outright cheating.
Maricopa isn’t even the dirtiest AZ county but their fraud is legendary.
PA is a joke. I knew about PA fraud decades ago–much like CA.
But GA is the gem of fraud… the only state where NO new Trump endorsed candidates won in the primary.
If you read this and change the players to GOP leadership in Arizona you see the same plan being played out.
AWESOME! Sundance big beautiful BRIGHT LIGHT into the dark. That Light is you.
Thank you. You make the world a far better place …….blessings always to you…..
In 25 words or less:
If he was around Trump…he was ‘damned if he did and damned if he didn’t?
DeSantis alluded to running again in 2028 but I don’t think he has the backing any more. He no longer serves the purpose Sundance stated, to take over MAGA.
He and Jill need to move out of the Florida Governor’s mansion in January 2027. It will be interesting to see where they move. Will they buy a house in Florida or move elsewhere?
He could potentially run for US Representative or Senator in 2026, otherwise he’s going to have some dead time.
Good luck, traitor.
DeSantis had already signed up for Rubino’s seat in 2015.
There isn’t going to be a 2028.
We’ve had political upheaval and societal unrest in the past. In my lifetime I saw marked strife in the 60’s and 70’s.
As you posit, IMO this is different. A historical comparison and following the. money, not just in the U.S. but around the planet, would be an instructive discussion.
Locally, we’re working to maintain the historical pro-PDJT and stalwart conservative culture and defend against the increasing Communist scourge in the Beaver state. Myself, I’ll consider myself fortunate to be alive by 2028 so am focused more short-term.
Mega respect to those gentle readers with the skills to discern the big and long-term picture with clarity. God be with you 🙂
Sundance’s analysis is more-than-plausible.
Not mentioned was the 2022 midterm results: I’ve become convinced that the election fraud infrastructure is a UniParty operation (the UniParty, in turn, being a subsidiary of what I call the “Globalist-CCP Axis”).
This explains why the GOP / RNC before and after 2020 have done zilch about election integrity; they won’t even acknowledge its absence.
Recall the “red wave” that was certain to occur in the 2022 midterms. It didn’t happen – EXCEPT IN FLORIDA.
I believe that the UniParty “shut off” the fraud mechanisms in Florida to allow the “red wave” to occur so as to make it appear that Ron DeSantis had coattails. Meanwhile, the fraud infrastructure was in operation elsewhere to make it appear that Donald Trump did not have coattails, and is/was a “has been.”
Similarly, I’ve long believed that Paul Ryan (et als.) – in collaboration with the Democrats – deliberately threw the 2018 midterms, so as to set the stage for a planned impeachment of President Trump by the Democrats without having direct “Republican” fingerprints on it.
Recall that PDJT did have ‘coattails ‘ in the 22 Mid Terms, as most of the candidates he backed won their election. The DS/MSM minions try to obfuscate this fact.
Help me out here. If it was “always going to be Nikki Haley” as the GOPe/Donor Class candidate, why all the effort and investment in Cowboy Meatball for 2024? Were they stashing her in the bullpen to swoop in as needed to save the day?
Where did you get “always going to be Nikki Haley” ?
Sundance said it: “Haley was always going to be the DeceptiCon candidate because she has always been for sale.”
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2024/01/16/nikki-haley-relying-on-democrats-in-new-hampshire-to-win-republican-primary-and-keep-billionaire-donors-happy/
Thanks. Have been busy and hadn’t had time to respond.
Your original question was: If it was “always going to be Nikki Haley” as the GOPe/Donor Class candidate, why all the effort and investment in Cowboy Meatball for 2024?
I see a couple of reasons. #1: DeSantis could pretend to be MAGA and get Trump’s endorsement and he could also leverage Florida’s lax campaign finance rules to amass a huge pile of money (which is exactly what he did). Haley could do neither. #2: There are multiple anti-Trump factions. I don’t think they have joined forces but we know that some of DeSantis’ wealthy donors jumped over to support Haley’s campaign.
I suspect they were lining up as many dunces as possible to try to knock down the Very Stable Genius Trump!
That’s the only scenario I could come up with. What a colossal waste of resources.
Sundance–you are amazing. Their hubris from their door knockers to their holier than thou campaigning seemed odd.
Let’s not forget Charlie Kirk who had DeSantis host the 2022 Trump-like rallies supporting candidates in other states. They provided cover for DeSantis to meet with big-$$$ donors around the country and also promote himself. Remember “America’s Governer”? (puke) Those rallies were held shortly after the Mar-a-Lago raid. It was sickening to see DeSantis acting like the new Trump while Trump and his family were suffering the trauma of the raid.
This rally for Kari Lake and Blake Masters was held on August 14, just one week after the raid. The article includes a picture of Ron! and Kari and Charlie. I have a feeling Ron was courting Kari for his VP pick.
https://www.azcentral.com/picture-gallery/news/politics/elections/2022/08/15/photos-blake-masters-kari-lake-ron-desantis-phoenix-rally/10327597002/
Here is the poster for a September 2022 rally. It’s supposed to be a rally for candidates in Wisconsin, but notice that DeSantis’ pic is the largest and his name is huge. It’s like the candidates are just afterthoughts. And look at the web site, tpaction.com/desantis ??
We should dump Kirk and the rest of the traitors who backed DeSantis. None of them can be trusted. That includes the turd known as Catturd.
Ja.
That rally was to scrape MAGA cred off of Kari.
Runt offered her nothing, sought to elevate himself, and was selling the Florida Miracle Snake Oil and most faithful Treepers saw straight through him.
One must assume WSJ opinion columnist Peggy Noonan was in on the deal. She has sabotaged GOP candidates, ever since she first slobbered over Obama.
Send that woman out to pasture. She does not deserve such a prominent place in that publication – her track record for error cannot support any further collusive readership.
She writes RINO pandering drivel. Then WSJ amplifies her nonsense with followup RINO letters to the editor, well out of proportion to anything of substance she offered her waning cadres of readers.
I now know to believe just the opposite of anything RINO Peggy Noonan ever writes. WSJ, if you want to save America and our business climate and economy, hand Peggy Noonan a gold watch and get rid of her.
Peggy who?
(See how easy that is? Don’t watch her and you don’t catch any slobber slung your way!)
Changing hearts and minds is one mission of many of the Treehouse.
I stopped reading the WSJ and having it delivered to the house daily back in the 80’s when I started smelling the stench of Communism in my business. Prior, I had been a big financial wonk. Making money.
We didn’t have a diverse discussion forum like the Treehouse back then. We had a coffee shop where business owners would get together and chew the fat and discuss politics and money.
We run the gamut here in age, history, social and financial status. I like the diversity of opinion and experience here, even if some of the sharing has been long evident in my life. I hope it helps someone else. 🙂
The best part about President Trump is that he is not beholden to the special interests. He’s not beholden to personal interests (Heck he lost money being President the first time around). He truly loves the country and wants We, the People to succeed. This is why the WEF, the DNC, The Sea Island folks, and the GOPe do not want him. HE CANNOT BE CONTROLLED.
The first term demonstrated to President Trump that the swamp is thick in both parties (Uniparty). I’m certain he will not take the “well-meaning” advice of the party in his nomination choices. President Trump needs strong patriots (men and women) to step up and serve selflessly. No more Sessions, Barrs, Bushies, Haleys, etc.
He needs our support, our prayers, and our votes. And as Sundance says, President Trump will be the 47th POTUS.
I believe you are closer than anyone else I have read about Trump’s real threat to the democrats and RINO’s. If he can’t be controlled and has serious political convictions’ about key issues I can see them panicking. He has money and minimal skeletons in the closet he can’t be bribed or blackmailed which are their main methods of control of those who disagree with them. Just look at Joe Biden, the perfect deep state candidate, the only question is how much this time.. Still though I believe there is a deeper level of combat that we see only hints of on occasion. I believe that Trump is fighting forces on that level and making serious headway which is why their lakeys on the left have been instructed to stop Trump at any cost. If we have to go to war to save the Constitution this fall I think itis important to know who we are really fighting.
The official Republican party is in essence at war with it’s supporters…How ironic…But more sadly is the fact the party either thinks they’re right and know what’s best for the country or they’re just theives looking to make their grift bigger….Both I think.
It’s all about money and power. “Right” to the GOPes is what makes them wealthier and more powerful.
You’re an astute reader of this site, obviously. Doing the math reveals the only way out is thru a cataclysmic disruption. The R party IS THE PROBLEM. It must be destroyed and truth restored on all levels of our cause. Until that charter can be adopted we’re at their mercy.
Not destroyed. Taken over. It has already started.
Thanks once again Sundance for connecting the dots for us. It makes me understand how long and drawn out this war is going to be to defeat the uni-party and globalist cabal. I think we are making good headway, but there is still a lot of work to do. I pray that God protects President Trump. We have other good people on the bench, but they are not quite ready for primetime.
For gentle readers who expect to live beyond PDJT’s next term, I hope that long-term planning, from social indoctrination of children, to education, to local government, is well underway.
It’s taken decades, longer than I’ve been alive, for the Communists to infiltrate our political, government, educational and social systems. I’ll posit it will, short of a bloody revolution that’s successful, take equal or more decades to eradicate them. Perhaps by the 22nd century.
It has to start somewhere and PDJT was a big help to us. It will take millions like him over time to right the Republic. Us.
Restoration of the Republic will be a multi-generational effort.
“Just like the Tea Party was infiltrated and diminished back to the control of the GOPe in 2012, so too was the plan to infiltrate MAGA and take control in 2024.”
Fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me twice, shame on me.
As a former Tea Party member and advocate, I speak for myself when I say “No way in HELL will they fool me again”.
Judging from the current MAGA sentiment, there are a lot of people who feel the same way.
Team DeSantis – All the crooks and the kitchen Cynk!
We need a MAGA college and secret hand shake
Trump should that he will pardon Hunter if elected president.
Just a curve ball to add to the mix
He was hands off with Hillary so who knows. Throwing her in jail was only a debate zinger.
The steadfast DeSantis support really changed my mind on Dave Rubin. I used to watch him on YT quite a bit because he seemed very common sense – despite his background.
But I guess a shit-leopard never changes his shit-spots. Seeing him in those photos above soldifies the fact that he was/is just another slick establishment puppet.
I stopped watching him quite awhile ago when DeSantis started showing who he really was and Rubin’s support for him stayed rock solid to the very predictable end of Rhonda’s run.
Oh well, another one exposed!
Rubin actually moved to Florida in 2021. Could be a coincidence, but I think not.
Sundance describes a useful, and reasonable, explanation of recent events. Both fraternities of the uniparty wanted to stifle Trump. This explains Ronna Romney Mcdaniel’s failure to elect Republicans to the House, and Senate in 2018, 2020,and 2022.
Do we create a majority Third Party ?
Or do we continue attempting reformation of the Republican Party ?
What to do ??
I dunno. I thought the establishment pick for governor was Adam Putnam. He spent twice the cash DeSantis did, and that DeSantis was the Trump guy bucking the establishment. Makes sense as DeSantis didn’t get the big bucks Putnam did.
Sundance says DeSantis was the donor establishment pick all along, but that doesn’t make sense. He was Trump’s pick and an underdog. The donors were for Putnam.
The Decepticons were for creating an illusion and that’s what they did. Think about it.
Never Give Up The Con.
Take over the existing GOP. The takeover has already begun but we need to make faster progress. We need to stop GOPes from winning primaries and then stop Democrats from winning general elections. Wyoming did a great job ousting Liz Cheney and electing Harriet Hageman.
Not surprisingly, Sundance’s ‘Team DeSantis’ poster at the top of the page, could easily have been titled ‘Team Never Trump’.
In my opinion, Ramaswampy was put in to do exactly the same thing as DeSantis – to drain / syphon off Trump supporters, and try to appear pro-MAGA.
They’ve both been benched temporarily I believe, and publicly supporting Trump to take another run later, or hope for a plum position to infiltrate Trump’s next Whitehouse.
Like most people here, I pray he does not make these same mistakes this time around.
That’s what I worry about too, about Ramaswamy. Trump was the first person to announce his 2024 candidacy, I think. He did it in November 2022 which is very early. Anyone who announced after that should not be trusted IMO. They all know Trump was deprived of his 2020 win through voting fraud. Why would they try to deprive him of his 2024 win too?
I missed turncoat Steve Cortes in those pictures.
DeSantis and the Republican “professionals” got humiliated.
More humiliation and exposure awaits.
Wasn’t Adam Putnam the establishment’s pick for the GOP nomination, not DeSantis? Certainly Putnam had far more funding, twice as much in fact, and DeSantis was encouraged to run by Trump before DeSantis got in the race.
But now DeSantis was the establishment pick rather than Trump’s pick? That doesn’t seem to jive with history.
What’s your supportive timeline for your Putnam theory? I don’t think anyone outside of Florida knows who he is. He would need national name recognition like was built for DeSantis.
Trump was probably unaware of all of the wheeling and dealing DeSantis was doing. Whether Trump encouraged DeSantis to run for Florida Governor or not doesn’t matter. It the plan by DeSantis’ handlers to have him do it. A friendly GOP-controlled legislature and lax campaign finance rules would help him build national name recognition and a big pile of money from anti-MAGA donors.
Do you remember Trump said DeSantis begged him for his endorsement for that first Florida Governor run? DeSantis was polling badly. Even with Trump’s endorsement he barely won. If DeSantis had truly been Trump’s pick for Florida Governor Trump would have helped him early on and wouldn’t have needed to be begged.
And the illusion was created of DeSantis being a Trump supporter. It was a deep illusion that many can’t even shake loose of now.
The underdog overcoming the establishment with Trump’s boost was a necessary piece of the picture. Before that, Florida didn’t even know who DeSantis was.
Never Give Up The Con.
Very informative! Thank you. You can’t trust anyone. What a sleaze RD is.
So, what went wrong? RDS was always doomed to fail UNLESS DJT was removed from the scene.
Is the plan to eliminate Trump still in play, with Haley now scheduled to be the beneficiary?
Tucker Carlson said Haley was plan B of the Democrats. Because DeSantis imploded Haley is plan B of the GOPes too. I expect her to remain in for a few months even if she is losing badly, because her participation allows for the Democrats to continue to invade the GOP primaries.
i would never ever vote for nikki haley but at some point in the future i would consider desantis. not my first choice but i would at least consider him.
His actions in Florida between now and the end of his term could be mitigating factors. What we’ve seen can’t be unseen. If I’m alive in ’28 I’ll posit I’ll be voting for someone whose name I don’t currently know.
Are you a Trump supporter? If so, please re-read this article and search for others about DeSantis. I suggest you start with August 2022 articles on this site and work forward in time. If it’s true that DeSantis was promoted to be a MAGA-buster, then we need to never support him again. Get rid of him and the other traitors.
Seems like BS. Sorry and I know Sundance does great work but seriously, DeSantis was not the big donor pick to be governor as Putnam his opponent outraised him 2 to one. DeSantis was Trump’s pick. and yet now we’re supposed to think the establishment planned on DeSantis becoming governor and then president in 2024 for years?
More likely, they want someone other than Trump and DeSantis was very popular and so backed him. They backed Rubio and then Cruz in 2016 but they don’t really like Cruz. Bush and McConnel hate him. He just became the last option other than Trump.
I just responded to your theory in the other comment where you posted it so I hope you’ll read my response and I won’t have to repeat it here. And let me add this: if the purpose was to bust MAGA, how could Putnam have done it? Doing the same thing DeSantis did? Posing as a MAGA pro-Trump candidate to win votes?
I also want to ask: if DeSantis has any morals or sincerity, then why did he run against Trump in the 2024 election? Trump announced well in advance of DeSantis, way back in Nov 2022. I think DeSantis announced in May 2023 (I’m too lazy to look it up). Why would he do this if he were pro-MAGA? Trump is clearly the better person for the job, Trump has presidential experience already and did a great job, and he was deprived of his second term. Maybe because DeSantis knew he’d be out of a job when his Florida Governor term expires in Jan 2027 and if he ran in 2028 he’d be jobless (at least politically) for two years?
Citations to accompany all these bloviating opinions should be required.
Why are you here? You just called several years worth of analytical research with citations BS.
You are being offensive to our host and to most here.
Sundance went to great length with citations to detail the entire DeSantis operation. Your whole day has been spent here shoveling BS.
Flag this guys comments William Kenan Rand people!
Never Give Up The Con.
Dead Ender to the end.
I’ll never vote for DeSantis period.
humanity needs to understand that ‘WE’ ,,, the ‘created’ don’t call the shots … ‘GOD ALMIGHTY’ does …our tenure in screwing up just about everything we touch and create is just about over … ( ‘THANK GOD’ …) … NOW SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP … humanity is in for a ‘spanking’ that will humble every knee … to bow … weather we want to or not …
I think God doesn’t interfere with these things.
Bingo!
I’ve been saying for a long time that the 2018 election was thrown. There was no “blue wave”. The GOP gained several Senate seats.
People always think that look on McConnell’s face was happiness that we held the Senate. I’ve believed since that very night that he was terrified because the idea was to lose the House AND Senate so they could remove Trump. By holding the Senate, the Government Party lost its easy way to remove Trump without giving up the rigged game.
DeSantis will be President. People just wanted Trump to rightfully het his second term this time around. I love DeSantis, more than all other Republican. I’m glad he had the gumption to 1) not become Haley’s (who the deep state and big money are pushing) VP choice, and 2) not back Haley on his way out, instead throwing his support behind Trump.
DeSantis will never be President, but he will try and that’s why he threw out that back-handed endorsement of Trump which included a jab. I think you didn’t bother to read the article, DeSantis is just as much a puppet as Haley is
The polls and primaries were going down the more DeSantis campaigned, he will never be president of anything.
How is it that Desantis can change laws and make it so no one can see the amount of travel he is doing and who he is with and He collects a salary from Florida the entire time that scum bag has been running for President and He said that he would support the Republicans, Well, This scum bag just veto’d a bill that would help President Trump with his legal bills in Florida. maybe he has every right to do this, but he is still just a scum bag that has no soul and no brains, I just hope that they know what they are doing because this might come back and back fire on Desantis
Well President Trump what do you think of your idiot now.?
I have a prediction: Florida will change the rules to allow DeSantis to run for and serve a 3rd term as Governor. I will admit I didn’t research the possibility, maybe it’s in the state’s constitution so it couldn’t be easily changed. But if they can do it I think they will. This will allow DeSantis to keep his job and keep raking in massive donations and then run for President in 2028.
Ain’t gonna happen.
He’s hated, he hates most Floridians, and he hasn’t half what it would take to survive that long even if his disappointed puppeteers were to continue the Ron Con.
Now, will they try to keep his campaign “in suspension” and dispatch slick operatives to try to keep him viable in case they thwart PDJT somehow?
I say the Dead Ender operative spamming the hell out of us in this very thread screams that’s the case.
Also, Trump was far from complimentary towards Runt in his NH win speech tonight, he knows they are still scheming.
Ya can absolutely se the swamp trails everywhere that man (Ron DeSantis) walks.
Indeed.
His Dead Ender operatives are just as transparently obvious.